In Arizona, Blake Masters and Kari Lake Embrace Bad Border Policies
The anti-immigrant tenor of the state's GOP candidates is keeping reasonable conversations about border security out of reach.

Last week, Rep. Paul Gosar (R–Ariz.), who's running unopposed for reelection in Arizona's 9th congressional district, was caught in a covertly recorded video seemingly expressing sympathy to people who claimed they'd been shooting at undocumented immigrants.
"We've shot at them," the man, an undercover activist, told Gosar. "I'm worried that the Democrats are gonna send me to jail." Gosar replied, "They have more rights than we do."
"I might've hit someone," the man said before thanking Gosar for his work. "Say a prayer because this country needs you," the congressman replied. "There's a bunch of people that are ready to go into action."
Gosar, who's previously proposed a 10-year moratorium on all immigration, is part of an Arizona GOP that's taken an increasingly militant turn on migrants and the border.
With Election Day less than one week away, the results of Arizona's midterm races could shake up both national politics and recent statewide trends. Immigration has emerged as a central plank for high-profile Republican candidates, including Senate candidate Blake Masters and gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake, who routinely lean into their party's worst impulses. Their platforms include policies that are legally fraught and unlikely to solve persistent problems at the border.
Both Masters and Lake say they will finish the construction of former President Donald Trump's border wall, which currently covers about 245 miles of Arizona's 373-mile border with Mexico. Trump's project cost roughly $20 million per mile to construct, dwarfing the cost of reinforcements installed under the Bush and Obama administrations. Despite that expense, the wall hasn't thwarted illegal migration. Immigrants have been able to climb over it with ladders, cut through it with cheap tools, and tunnel under it. With fewer legal migration pathways and a far more fortified border, the number of migrants injured or killed as they fell from the wall spiked.
Renewed border wall construction could end up hurting Arizona communities, including private landowners robbed of their land by eminent domain and Native Americans who've had their sovereignty violated despite explicit opposition. Lake says she'll veto "any budget that fails to fully fund the border wall's completion," despite the economic and political costs she might incur.
Lake and Masters see illegal immigration as an "invasion" to be combated. "It's time to militarize this border," Masters said in a campaign ad. Lake's first "solution" to secure the border involves invoking Article I, Section 10 of the U.S. Constitution "to fend off the invasion at our southern border in the absence of federal protection." She claims this will allow Arizona—and "a compact of like-minded states"—to "arrest illegal immigrants" and "return them back across the border."
As David Bier, associate director of immigration studies at the Cato Institute, explained for Reason last year, the Constitution does indeed require "the federal government to protect against an 'invasion'—what every court that has reviewed the question has interpreted to mean an 'armed hostility from another political entity.'" Further, "the Constitutional Convention debates connected the power to repel invasions with the power to raise armies."
Incoming migrants seeking safety and economic opportunity do not match the Founding Fathers' concept—nor any modern one—of an invasion. As Bier wrote, migrants "want to be us, not conquer us." Lake's misinterpretation of the Constitution could be truly damaging: It severely distorts the nature of the people crossing the border, reinforces anti-immigrant animus, and could help open the door to an extraordinary allocation of state funds toward misguided enforcement schemes.
Washington could be doing plenty more to restore asylum and expand work visa access, which would help make migration flows more predictable and help reduce illegal migration. That's something Masters could work on if elected, though his legal immigration plans include "we want good immigrants, not bad ones" with no actual call for the U.S. to accept more legal immigrants than it currently does.
For Masters, who in a now-deleted sentence on his campaign website argued that "the Democrats dream of mass amnesty, because they want to import a new electorate," it's a particularly disappointing turn. The erstwhile libertarian-leaner, according to Jewish Insider, once blogged under a pseudonym that "illegal immigration is an ethical contradiction in terms," arguing that "'unrestricted' immigration is the only choice." Certain migration patterns aren't illegal "because this makes rational or ethical sense, but because a State or some form of Government so declared them," he wrote.
GOP candidates' militant fixation on the border also doesn't reflect voter preferences. In a September Marist poll of registered voters in Arizona, just 13 percent of voters ranked immigration as their top issue when thinking about the midterms, putting it in fourth place behind inflation (36 percent), preserving democracy (26 percent), and abortion (15 percent). Though 24 percent of Republicans listed immigration as their number one issue, twice as many said inflation was their top priority.
With one-third of Arizona's electorate composed of independent and third-party voters, Republicans will need to look beyond their party's base to win seats. Unfortunately for moderate and liberty-minded voters, the anti-immigrant tenor of the Arizona GOP pushes reasonable conversations about border security out of reach.
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Easy to make an article from a non-border state there, Fiona. Does it upset you that Lake is blowing away Dobbs? Cry more.
Came here to say this. It's particularly ironic that she moved away from Arizona, to DC. Where the problem isn't.
Did you mean "moved to DC where the problem is created", instead?
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She was a northerner before college. Only moved to Az to attend school.
None of this matters. They gave her this particular hammer and said go act like everything is a nail. She's just parroting the Koch talking point.
Yeah, that's an ad hominem and not that useful.
There is an underlying concern here though, which is that Immigrants have a net-gain to the economy, but that the costs are not distributed evenly throughout the entire country. I think it's still ultimately worth it, but be up-front about that in your discussion and bring about ways to mitigate and help deal with those costs.
The problem is so much of the argument here is facile. But I think that's also just the nature of A) the company has mostly young staffers who aren't deeply knowlegable, and B) that we're mostly commenting on Hit-N-Run posts and the magazine itself tends to be more in-depth.
I'm not making ad hominem attacks. Just responding to perlmonger.
And Harrigan doesn't do anything in depth. Almost her entire beat, from the first intern article she wrote, has been immigration propaganda. No matter what it is, we need to open the borders. War in Ukraine? We need more immigration. Snow in Canada? We need more immigration.
Never, ever, in any of it, is there a discussion of the perils of immigration. The massive distortion of job markets by illegal immigrants, driving out entry level jobs and causing perverse employment incentives. The massive distortion of higher skill job markets concurrent with the rampant expansion and abuse of H1Bs. Anything like that.
Immigration is not all immigration. There are dozens of facets, from the illegal sneaking in to get pickup labor to refugees, asylum seekers, and genuine legal immigrants.
Fiona just says "Open the borders." Over and again.
LEGAL immigrants are a net gain.
NOT illegal immigrants. NOT refugees.
Why, at this late date, is this fact so often ignored?
Katie Hobbs runs into bathroom to hide from Project Veritas.
May Katie's election night be a Hobbsian nightmare.
All illegal aliens should be deported. They can apply for a work visa once they return to their countries. Any company found to employee an illegal alien is fined $100K per employee. No need for a wall.
Problem solved. We are a nation of immigrants and welcome them legally.
Upholding existing US law is NOT bad policy. Libertarians do NOT support unlimited immigration. That is NOT what open borders is about. Stop shilling for progressives.
Libertarians could support unlimited immigration, I do disagree with what Reason has done lately which is seemingly just assert that it is the one, true libertarian position.
Libertarians support open borders, which allow for the free flow of people. That doesn’t give automatic citizenship to anybody and everybody that crosses a border! That is insane.
It is completely reasonable for a country to dictate the number of people it allows to become citizens and the type of people. In fact, most countries do exactly this!!! Canada’s immigration policy gives massive preference to young people with college degrees, especially in specific professions that are in demand.
Are there ANY other countries in the world that allow birthright citizenship? Unless one of your parents is a US citizen, you should NOT be able to become a citizens just because your Mom pushes you out within the US borders.
Jason, I'll parrot Birthright Citizenship here.
This was meant to say that slaves born here were American citizens, period. Needed to rectify the legal status of people after emancipation.
The fact that you can crap out a baby here, whether you are here legally or otherwise, and that baby is a citizen absolutely could not have been the real intention of the amendment. I believe that fully, though I'm fine if someone wants to convince me otherwise. That said, birthright citizenship invites the wrong kind of actions. It is a the definition of perverse incentives and unintended consequences.
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You're using a term I also take issue with. "Open-borders" is one of those incredibly vague terms people use to avoid clear discussion of what's actually being argued. This is evidenced by the fact that Ms. Camp here, and Reason in general, seem to call unlimited immigration Open-Borders, while you yourself mean a distinct alternative to that.
My main point above though was that libertarians can disagree, and it's not clear to me that open-borders of any form is an absolute requirement for one to be a libertarian. I think closed-borders would be hard to argue, but closed-borders are more often then not a strawman people construct of opponents in the immigration debate. Though apparently Gosar above is that strawman, but we all knew he was.
Replace Ms. Camp with Ms. Harrigan.
"You’re using a term I also take issue with. “Open-borders” is one of those incredibly vague terms people use to avoid clear discussion of what’s actually being argued."
Sorry, not sorry. 😉 I used the term, then immediately quantified it. Not sure how else you expect somebody to discuss this issue.
"seem to call unlimited immigration Open-Borders, while you yourself mean a distinct alternative to that."
Well, Reason isn't always as clear as I was. Once you get into the meat of this article, you see where the author is pushing for unlimited immigration.
The bottom line for me is this: the Federal government creates immigration law and is supposed to enforce said laws. They clearly are NOT enforcing those laws. If the Senate/Congress/Democrats/whomever want unlimited immigration, they need to CHANGE THE FUCKING LAWS!!! It is negligence of duty to simply ignore the enforcement of laws because you don't like them.
Btw, I also add: I've read a few Libertarian authors over the years. I don't recall ANY of them promoting Reason's and Progressive's idea of Open Borders. I'm open to somebody showing me otherwise. (Not Jewish Insider, like the author promotes, but a classic Libertarian author.)
Obviously, when you get the progressive folks that pretend to be Libertarian, you start seeing this nonsense. A sovereign country has every legitimate right to quantify their immigration policy. To say otherwise is to reject the sovereignty of a country and it's government, and that isn't Libertarianism. That's anarchy.
They know better than to support open borders explicitly. But when your operative principle is that any restriction is illegitimate you support open borders whether you admit it or not.
Well, the current Mises Caucus-dominated Libertarian Party supports open borders.
https://www.lp.org/issues/immigration/
Here is a paper by Walter Block making the libertarian case for open borders.
https://mises.org/library/libertarian-case-free-immigration
Is he libertarian enough for you?
Walter also has the insane Rothbard view of babies being parasites until birth if I recall. It is a weird view.
Canada and I think Fiji.
Libertarians support open borders, which allow for the free flow of people. That doesn’t give automatic citizenship to anybody and everybody that crosses a border! That is insane.
Free migration of people is not the same as automatic citizenship for anyone crossing a border. Who is arguing for automatic citizenship?
I am definitely on the pro-open-borders side of things and I think automatic citizenship would very much be insane.
And that is different from the issue of birthright citizenship.
Are there ANY other countries in the world that allow birthright citizenship?
Yes. Quite a few actually.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-with-birthright-citizenship
Libertarians support open borders
Leftists who have infested the libertarian movement like roaches in an apocalypse support open borders.
Libertarians support private property. And understand that nations are nothing more than an outgrowth of same.
In the article about this yesterday from Boehm:
Most libertarians differ with Masters on his stances on immigration, bellicosity toward China (he is confident China is to blame for COVID, and vaguely vows on his campaign website to "get tough"), his enthusiastic public association with neoreactionaries, and his belief that government should manage the content moderation decisions of private tech companies and eliminate Section 230 liability protection for user-generated content, regulate them like common carriers, and use federal antitrust powers to curb them.
There are a few things that bother me here. First, he makes a claim that most libertarians are against that list. I'm not sure we have a clear sense of what libertarians generally believe. We have a directional question, but the dividing line is not always clear. For instance, China is actively committing a genocide, this is a known fact, libertarians can disagree on how to react to that both personally and with the government.
Second, I'm not entirely clear what Master's stance is on each of those things. Even in the article above, Emma discusses Lake and Master's reaction to Illegal Immigration. Specifically blurring or removing any distinction between illegal and legal immigration is an old rhetorical move, and an obnoxious one. It clouds the conversation in a way that "pushes reasonable conversations about border security out of reach."
Further, the only link given by Boehm is to this article:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/23373795/curtis-yarvin-neoreaction-redpill-moldbug
Which shows that Master's read blogs by the person being discussed a decade ago. Presumably Boehm has also read this fellow to know to condemn him, so is Boehm painted with this same brush? That's stupid.
Master's is pretty mixed, but the tendency of Reason to use rhetorical vagueness hurts the conversation as well. You guys can do better rather than descending into the vague terror and accusation that's become common here.
>>GOP candidates' militant fixation on the border
lol that FoxNews kid with his Hellfire Missile Drone has been great tv
.. militant fixation on the border….
Like Fiona?
You just solved the immigration problem - hand everyone coming across the border a Fox News shirt!
"The anti-illegal immigrant tenor of the state's GOP candidates is keeping reasonable conversations about border security out of reach."
FTFY
Again, Libertarians do NOT support unlimited immigration. The un-reasonableness comes from dishonest progressives that want to allow ANY person that walks across our border automatic citizenship. Of course, those new citizens vote for Democrats at 70/30 clip. Not hard to understand the "why" here.
We have a process. Follow it. If you don't like the process, change the laws. Otherwise, ENFORCE THE LAWS! Equally.
Well, part of the problem here is that you are conflating many different issues together.
First there is the issue of the free migration of people (so-called "open borders"). That issue is only about whether people ought to be free to cross a border without arbitrary restrictions from the state.
Then there is the issue of citizenship. Free migration of people is not the same as automatic citizenship. Who should be granted citizenship, and under what conditions? Personally I think there is room for many different perspectives here from a libertarian point of view, since there is no natural, inherent right to citizenship anywhere. The question then boils down to one of preferences.
Then there is the case of whether the law itself ought to be obeyed. Certainly laws that are just (i.e., protect rights, punish NAP violations) ought to be obeyed from a libertarian perspective. But what about unjust laws, such as for example, laws that criminalize simple possession of marijuana? Those laws are ridiculous and shouldn't be obeyed IMO. Do immigration laws fall in the same category? Some do and some don't, IMO.
Then there is the whole "great replacement theory" nonsense.
So there's a lot of different issues here, pick the one you want to focus on.
vb
Kari Lake embraces bad border policies? Go on...
Her southern border is not open to everyone.
"reasonable conversations about border security"
ROFL
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As Bier wrote, migrants "want to be us, not conquer us."
So, uh, if I walked into Biers' home, started taking food from his fridge, sleeping on his couch, hitting on the hot neighbors, and phoning opinions in to The Institute, he'd be OK with that? I don't want to kill him or anything, I just want to be like him.
Right there is a good example of rhetorical laziness. I mostly talk about this when discussing homeless people, but there’s not one type of immigrant. There’s not even one type of illegal immigrant. Refusing to allow for such distinctions also “pushes reasonable conversations about border security out of reach.”
Shit, in that very sentence the author inputs “migrants” as a catch-all, a thing we’ve been seeing all over to erode any distinction in the conversation and thus make it harder to discuss. It’s Orwellian.
Which is not even to say I disagree with their stance, just fucking make the argument mother fuckers. This shoddy argumentation and these rhetorical stolen bases makes things worse not better.
Dude, you're in a mood today. I hope that bubble bath helps out.
It's okay. Though my above response was in response to the line Mad.casual quoted and not his post.
Everything here is a general issue with the rhetorical vagueness of a lot of Reasons arguments. That's why, agree or disagree, Welch's post today was better than most. He was at least reasonably concrete in his points.
I would also point out the immigrants from countries dominated by the religion of peace - who absolutely do want to conquer us. Sure, not by direct violence but by using the force of the state for push cultural changes to enshrine their morality as law.
Funny how the progs like Fiona were quick to call in the military to remove the foreigners when it was sanctuary city Martha's Vineyard that had to host less than an hour's worth of the traffic border towns have to deal with. That was just fine but how dare the rubes expect similar treatment for the problem leftists like Fiona and the MV crowd create.
Quit whining when they are relocated to your backyard and maybe you'll have an opinion worth listening to you hypocritical douche.
Damn it. I'm so angry I'm going to go take a bubble bath.
How DARE these candidates promise to do what's in their state's interest!
the number of migrants injured or killed as they fell from the wall spiked.
Good. It's working.
Lake and Masters see illegal immigration as an "invasion" to be combated.
They've got it right.
"return them back across the border."
I recommend constructing catapults along the border.
Where exactly do Masters and Lake stand on food trucks? Most libertarians agree that we need an unlimited number and that the taxpayers should pay for the maintenance of any jolopy that can get here from TJ. What about butt sex? Are these immigrants willing to have butt sex with Reason editors? Most libertarians think they should. With free monkey pox vaccines for all. So many questions.
And they should be required to bring a set amount of weed with them.
Lissen, if they're hardworking immigrants selling buttsects from the back of their foodtrucks then they're all right by me.
migrants "want to be us, not conquer us."
Evidence?
They vote for Democrats at 70/30 clip!
It'll be interesting after this election if the exit polls start to show this trend change, as we're hearing. If this number is closer to 50/50, I'd bet hard money that Democrats change their tune on illegal immigration.
Muslims are a Trojan Horse. Look at France and Germany. They won't be France or Germany by 2050.
restore asylum and expand work visa access, which would...help reduce illegal migration.
It doesn't matter what our policies are as long as there is poor border security and enforcement is a joke. Illegal "immigrants" are more valuable to Americans who exploit them than those who are here legally. Expanding legal access will not slow down illegal immigration, so long as massive illegal entry is allowed to continue.
Expanding legal access will not slow down illegal immigration
That is ridiculous. The chief reason why there is illegal immigration in the first place is because the legal process is so restrictive and onerous. Make it easy for peaceful people to migrate across borders LEGALLY, and there will be no need for migrants dying in deserts or drowning in rivers for trying to sneak across a border, and there will be no need for migrants to abuse the asylum system to try to come here as economic migrants only.
The problem with your argument is that you have clearly been brainwashed into believing it. It is NOT hard, restrictive, or onerous to immigrate legally. Not in the least. It is a simple and organized process that leads to immigration for those who qualify, AT THE RATE THAT WE HAVE DECIDED WE WANT IT TO PROCEED.
What is being sold by those who want - for their own, not our, interests - us to believe that the rate is far too low is that if only the process were streamlined, everyone who wants to come would be able to breeze through. Here's the deal: that's not how many WE want, nor how many WE need, nor how many we can smoothly assimilate in an orderly fashion.
WE need to be the ones who make the rules - not drug cartels making a fortune flouting our laws and burying us under a flood of people who are dragging the country and its hard-won standard of living down. Whether the annual influx number is wrong or right, it's OUR authority that picks that number. At the moment, under the grossly inept management of Biden and Majorkas, the number is uncontrolled and completely arbitrary.
Why even HAVE a government, and laws, if it accomplishes nothing on behalf of the citizens who instituted it? Our immigration rate is NOT under INS control; it is being run, de facto, by drug cartels in Mexico whose self-interest - not the interests of the citizens of the United States - dictates the rate of immigration and the quality and capability of the individuals coming in.
You can't say that a policy that says that "we don't want illiterate, unskilled families of other nations flooding across the border by the hundreds of thousands, placing a financial burden on our country and its institutions" is "BROKEN" because it doesn't let anyone in who wants to be here, any more than a parent who says that their child can not gorge on chocolate bars until they throw up is engaged in "broken" parenting.
What is "broken" about our immigration system is our border policy and control - as broken as a front door meant to keep occupants safe, warm, and intruder-free that is hanging off its hinges. Un-breaking it means putting it back on its hinges and closing it - not adding another door. What's broken is the acts of the people whose job it is to control that door, in the interests of the people in the house whose door it is. Our immigration SYSTEM is FINE; it's our EXECUTION of that system that is broken.
"GOP candidates' militant fixation on the border also doesn't reflect voter preferences."
Then, there's nothing to worry about, right? Voters are primed to reject the GOP candidates and all will be well in Fiona's world.
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This statement is how I know that Fiona's bubble is full of MSM propaganda. She probably believes most people watched the Martha's Vineyard incident and sided with progressives.
Here in AZ, even some of my left leaning friends were aghast at the feds putting illegals up into hotels and such. The left is losing this issue. The icing on the cake is even Hispanic voters are starting to turn on Democrats.
But Fiona and Democrats will keep telling us that it's those mean, icky Republicans that are militant and out of touch.
"Incoming migrants seeking safety and economic opportunity"
Yeah that's what all those military age men with face tattoos are here for.
This is an odd belief for someone who believes any restriction on immigration is illegitimate. Pretending to support some middle ground when you’re in fact an extremist has a long history. Note in this case her only suggestion to illegal immigration is making them legal. What kind of “reasonable” conversation is possible with such an extremist?
The anti-immigrant tenor of the state’s GOP candidates is keeping reasonable conversations about border security out of reach.
Wait, what? Wait… no wait… WHO’S been keeping ‘reasonable conversations about border security’ out of reach? I have no idea what Masters and Lake have said about border security, and I’ll skim this article in time… but let’s just pretend for a moment that Lake and Masters are the very incarnation of Democratic anti-immigrant bogey…persons…
I would then submit that they are undoubtedly SYMPTOMS of what happens when one keeps reasonable conversations about border security out of reach.
Wait, what? Wait… no wait… WHO’S been keeping ‘reasonable conversations about border security’ out of reach?
Oh, both sides have, to be sure.
Perhaps those who are more restrictionist could tell us all what the precise criteria are for a "secure border". How "secure" is good enough? Does there have to be absolutely zero illegal immigration? Is it when the entire wall is finished? Is it when the entire wall is finished and patrolled 24/7? Is it when the entire wall is finished and patrolled 24/7 with machine guns and orders of shoot to kill, and with sharks with lasers in a giant moat? What?
In practice, "secure border" actually means "when the right Top Men are in charge". It is just a slogan designed to get Republicans elected, with a meaningless phrase which signals to their base that the border won't be secure until their team is in power. It is just one more shitty practice that both teams engage in.
So as long as the phrase "secure border" effectively means "vote for Republicans" (just like the phrase "reproductive rights" effectively means "vote for Democrats"), and there are no quantifiable objective metrics associated with what genuinely constitutes a "secure border", then no we can't have a reasonable conversation on the matter.
I will consider the border secure when we meet the following conditions:
1. Reach a point where we can deport them faster than they come in. This will require multiple changes. More physical security, more border patrol agents, and more judges/court personnel to address deportation backlogs.
2. Make sanctuary/obstructionist jurisdictions civilly and criminally liable for all crimes committed by illegal immigrants.
3. Revisit the Good Neighbor policy we used to have towards Central/South America and make it a non-partisan policy that the US maintains in the long term. We should be better partners to our southern allies and help them help themselves. Increased focus on free trade and decreased focus on political interventionism will help stabilize these nations and decrease the desire to illegally immigrate to the US. When Kamala did her "root cause" tour, I was very cynical and skeptical, but a part of me prayed that she might actually be pursuing this type of policy. She hasn't said much about it unfortunately.
4. I know very little about the legal immigration process, but it seems relatively nonpartisan to suggest that improvements can be made to the process. I'm uninformed about this aspect of the issue but there's always room for improvement.
Overall, I think it is non controversial to say that a secure border will exist when legal immigration is rigorous but fair, the desire to illegally immigrate is reduced, our allies fare better, and we quickly punish those who break the law.
In DC, Biden and Harris embrace bad border policies.
Why is it always the GOP that needs to 'stop being extremists and listen' when the DNC is pushing horrible policies from the other direction themselves?
Harrigan - if the US is so easily able to handle an unlimited influx of people from across the world then why couldn't Martha's Vineyard hand 50 people for a day? Why are Chicago, DC, and NYC 'struggling' (in the words of their mayors) with the influx?
If you lived here Fiona, maybe you'd understand why illegal immigration is so important to us.
All illegals must go. I am tired of them. I do not want them here. They do not belong here.
Another great meeting of Libertarians For Authoritarian, Bigoted, Un-American Immigration Policies And Practices.
Carry on, clingers.
Until replacement.
By your betters.
No mention of how illegal aliens and legal immigrants game the welfare system, often with the help of (Democrat) NGOs who teach them how to qualify for programs?
Or how about how we only have so many low-income jobs that can be filled by these low-skill illegal aliens and legal immigrants? America doesn't need over 10 million landscapers and strawberry pickers; the total number of such job openings is just in the hundreds of thousands.
I'm all for worker visas and allowing foreign nationals to work here, but only if we actually have enough jobs for them to do AND we get rid of ALL welfare such that the only incentive they have to come here is to earn their way to a better life, even if that be as a drug mule or grow house operator (so long as no one is victimized by their drug operation).
Also, as Tim Pool mentions, the Democrats have figured out how to use illegal aliens and legal immigrants to distort the census to dilute the votes of US citizens and get more of apportioned gov't spending. That's no good.
They can always get jobs "servicing" catalytic converters.
OMG! The GOP is defending the USA against invasion???
Heaven-forbid! /s
How many Reason writers have quit their job so it can be given to an illegal alien? How many have moved out of their homes so it can be given to an "unhoused" illegal alien? Still zero? Well, who would have thought?
I am a US citizen, and I lived in other countries for many years. It's entirely possible to "be us" without living inside the borders of the United States! Believe it or not, anyone can love freedom and support democracy from anywhere. You don't have to force your way into the United States to do it. There's nothing magical about the soil here that transforms people.
"love freedom and support democracy from anywhere"
correction; Love freedom and support the principles of the U.S. Constitution that ensures that freedom (Individual Liberty and Justice for all).
The very tainted narrative and very cursed mistake in this nation right now is the belief that democracy gives people freedom instead of a Supreme Law of the people *over* their government.
Gov-GUNS are not inherently a tool of freedom. LIMITING those Gov-GUNS to a purpose of only ensuring Individual Liberty and Justice *IS*.
Thiis immigrant can distinguish between those who are anti-immigrant and those who want a secure border that manages the process of immigration. Why can't the writer of this article do the same?
Even a bad border policy is better than Biden's no border policy.
The writer - undoubtedly NOT from a border state - appears to be operating from the mistaken assumption that any and all foreigners have a right to come here if they so chose. They do not. The US has a right and an obligation to only let in those people it wants to let in or no one at all; just like the writer has the right to determine who can enter her home. All because some finds her guest room inviting doesn’t mean they get to move in over her objections. The solution is not to give them blanket asylum and work visas, the solution is to deport them and keep others from following their illegal path. I am for LEGAL immigration where we can et those applying for entry to determine if they deserve to come here. We have plenty of home grown criminals - we don’t need to import any more.
Fiona, virtue signaling is easy as New York and DC found out. When a flood of illegal immigrants come to your town you'll sing a different tune.
Immigrants is great. A process that makes people citizens everyone is for. People coming across and doing want they want is not. But hey you don't care about property owners, or towns on border or anything right? Surprising that legal Hispanics want closed borders huh?
Reason really is a bad joke these days
I am not a fan of the concept of a "Living Constitution" and believe that the philosophy of our founders will stand the test of time. However, the concept of so many people being able to travel so easily might have escaped their imagination and contradicted their immediate concern about populating the new world. To them, citizenship at birthright was earned. The concept of flying to another continent to birth a child was not possible. Even the time to travel on foot from South America to the current border would have astounded them. If we could agree on the stance that they are not automatically entitled to citizenship or even the status of a legal visitor, then I believe the problem would solve itself. However, that is not the case, or the desire of the left so stated in their replacement theory decades ago. Automatic inclusion in government support programs plus birthright citizenship is problematic. There has been no better example of the contradictions of the current views than the Martha Vineyards incident. The founders believed and trusted that immigrants came here to share in the ideals of America (as Theodore Roosevelt so eloquently described). However, I have seen the results of mass migrations of refugees in a city near Boston near the end of the Vietnam war, where they didn't really have a choice. Many did not assimilate and, after 40 years, move to a more red district that could tolerate their religious lifestyle. I have also seen this several times since, like in Deerborn, MI. There is a real numbers game when it comes to economics, and that has to be part of the equation. Historically, most immigrants are willing to outwork and sacrifice for the future, which adds to the economy. (Side note, it is interesting that Asians are having to sue places like Havard because they have done this too well.) However, that has not been the case for many over the last 60 years. I was a foster parent to several children of illegal aliens. They came here not to work but to live the dream the left has been exporting since the 1960s. Free housing, food, education, and healthcare are not options available to most of the world. The Left trumpets these ideas, and you accuse the right of having a knee-jerk reaction?
Thus as to your challenge that States should not assume the role that the federal government has abandoned (especially in the last two years), I believe that many foreign governments and illegal entities have conspired in an invasion of sovereign territory. Even in the relatively small number of reported arrests of repeat criminals, known terrorists, and then the drugs? The MSM is completely missing on the coverage of sex trafficking. Please checkout Operation Underground Railroad, https://www.ourrescue.org/.
Understand this one reality. Nobody can approach the Mexico/USA border from the south without the Cartel's blessing. Do you think encouraging illegal migration is really helping most of these people?
Any court or judge that defines invasion as to having arms and military intent need to start throwing out "home invasion" Laws that do not require the "invader" having arms. Especially with the number of guns, thankfully available, in the US. An invasion force could illegally cross, unarmed, receive a court date for asylum the get guns and begin wreaking their havoc, nice ya morons.
"Despite that expense, the wall hasn't thwarted illegal migration."
Blatant lie. Wall was not built and has been dismantled in most places that it was.
Here's a clue, Fiona - this isn't a contest on the playing field that the press likes to use in order to curry clicks - the Democrat vs. Republican canard; it's the people vs. the government. Clearly - among those whose lives, safety, and quality of living is directly and adversely affected by the abject disregard of Washington for exercising its constitutional duty to the people, it's a matter of the people vs. the government.
The government is here to SERVE the people, not to chide and preach to the people about what the government thinks they SHOULD want. The people have spoken: no more damned illegals flooding across, defying our laws, and sowing division. If there's an interest group that wants an illegal flood, let them stand up in public and make their case; they'll soon be shouted down by a vociferous majority. Because? Because there's no justification for an extra-legal, costly and disruptive violation of American sovereignty that is costing American lives and overloading our schools and health services.
It's not in any way a matter of "soft" reason - humanitarianism, "they're only looking for a better life," asylum, or any of the other guilt-trip claptrap; it's an issue of management! WE need to be in charge of our immigration - not multi-billion dollar drug cartels in collusion with a sappy, whiny American press corps who would melt like a Guadalajara snowball if confronted with the dangers that the policy they espouse engenders.
We have immigration LAW. We have a department assigned to manage and enforce it. And we have a dysfunctional administration run by a senile, wholly-owned imbecile who ignores it, to the detriment of the people whose interests his oath of office is designed to force him to defend. Either get rid of that complete incompetent, or get rid of immigration law and forget that we have ANY rules - forget that we are a nation at all, and just be a population of individuals competing for their own interests on a playing field of survival of the fittest. You can't have the latter for the immigrants but constrain the players who are citizens.
Maybe I am missing something, but I always thought a government protecting the country's borders from invasion was what governments are supposed to do.
Obviously Paul Gosar was set up because the attorney who posted the video is a self-proclaimed "progressive" and the Arizona Repulsive ... Republic is a leftist rag too. Not as bad as the Phoenix New Times, but pretty close. It doesn't look like the author tried to contact Paul Gosar to comment about the video.