Biden and Journalists Agree: Republicans Would Deliberately 'Crash' the Economy
But…does that make any sense?

As Democrats and the journalists who root for them navigate the fraught final two weeks of an increasingly grim-looking midterm election campaign, many have settled on a message to counteract criticism over the anxiety-inducing state of the national economy: Republicans are worse because they would wreck it on purpose.
"If you're worried about the economy, you need to know this Republican leadership in Congress has made it clear they will crash the economy next year by threatening the full faith and credit of the United States," President Joe Biden alleged on Friday. "For the first time in our history, putting the United States in default unless we yield to their demand to cut Social Security, Medicare."
It's "not just democracy…at stake this fall," warned the subhed on a recent Atlantic piece by D.C. establishment lifer Norm Ornstein. No: "If Republicans win control of the House of Representatives, the country will face a series of fundamental challenges much greater than we have had in any modern period of divided government, including a direct and palpable threat of default and government shutdown….The concessions demanded by the new MAGA extremist radicals will be non-negotiable. And this time, if Republicans win, a lot more members will be ready to push us over the cliff."
It may seem hyperbolic to assert that a GOP-run 2023–24 Congress will bring fundamental challenges "much greater" than the 1974–76 divided-government era of Watergate, inflation, the Church Committee, and the fall of Saigon, but it is possible, even probable, that I lack a certain catastrophic imagination.
I do, however, have at least some standing to judge the accuracy of this recent headline from New York Magazine political columnist Jonathan Chait: "Republicans Plan Debt Crisis to Force Cuts to Medicare, Social Security: They do this every time."
Reader, they do not do this every time.
On November 4, 2014, Republicans won back control of the United States Senate for the first time since 2007, ushering in the only fully oppositional Congress of Barack Obama's presidency. On November 5, incoming Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R–Ky.), said, "Let me make it clear: There will be no government shutdowns and no default on the national debt."
Congress made good on McConnell's promise the following fall, suspending the debt ceiling until after Obama left office. Since then, the only influential House member to make even mild negotiating noises about the borrowing cap has been Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D–Calif.).
The GOP's fiscal progression from backbenching ballbusters in 2010–2013 to lower-drama accommodationists from 2014–2016 to big-government enablers from 2017–2020 is a fascinating and consequential subject; here's a 2018 stab I made at a devolutionary timeline. In order to arrive at the conclusion that, as Matthew Yglesias wrote recently in the Washington Post, "a Republican win is pretty much a guarantee of a political and economic crisis whose goal is to enact fiscal austerity," you need to leapfrog over all that recent history, and disregard the fact that the party's most popular politician campaigned explicitly on protecting entitlements and then presided over a larger spending increase in his first three-and-a-half years—pre-pandemic, mind you—than Obama managed in eight.
So what, besides political PTSD, is prompting this confidence in such an apocalyptic assertion? (Chait again: "It is…highly likely that they will attempt to melt down the global economy as part of an extortion threat.") One consideration is the general increase in Republican loopiness and obstinance in the age of Trump, regardless of their hero's open hostility to Paul Ryan-style entitlement reform. (Remember, the two government shutdowns under Trump came not because Republican lawmakers wanted to spend less, but because a Republican president wanted to spend more, on border enforcement.)
In Ornstein's formulation, the Crazy Party has just gotten more crazy: "Tea Party radicals—who a few years later formed the Freedom Caucus because the existing right-wing caucus, the Republican Study Committee, was not right-wing enough—have moved from the fringe to the center among House Republicans. And if Republicans capture a majority in next month's midterm election, they will make the Tea Party group look like milquetoast moderates."
More specifically, four House Republicans told Bloomberg News earlier this month that they would like to use the debt ceiling as leverage to cut spending growth. "Our main focus has got to be on nondiscretionary—it's got to be on entitlements," Buddy Carter (R–Ga.) told the service. Lloyd Smucker (R–Pa.) suggested means-testing; Jodey Arrington (R–Texas) talked about raising the retirement age.
And, in one of those straight-to-the-filing-cabinet, we'll-balance-the-budget-in-seven-years-no-really white papers, the Republican Study Committee this summer put out a blueprint that would gradually increase the age of Social Security recipients, tweak disability payments, and encourage the creation of younger-worker opt-outs that will almost certainly never be acted upon during my lifetime. There is ample ooga-booga potential here for Democratic cherry-pickers. Also, the relevant entitlements-related chapter headings are "Saving Medicare," "Reforming Disability Insurance," and "Make Social Security Solvent Again."
Then last week, House minority leader (and presumed speaker-in-waiting) Kevin McCarthy (R–Calif.) was asked by Punchbowl News about the debt ceiling. This was his answer:
You can't just continue down the path to keep spending and adding to the debt. And if people want to make a debt ceiling [for a longer period of time], just like anything else, there comes a point in time where, okay, we'll provide you more money, but you got to change your current behavior. We're not just going to keep lifting your credit card limit, right? And we should seriously sit together and [figure out] where can we eliminate some waste? Where can we make the economy grow stronger?
Eagle-eyed observers will detect the utter lack of anything concrete or even urgent here, further buttressed by McCarthy's response to a follow-up question about entitlement reform that he wouldn't "predetermine" anything about any future discussions.
Cue the death gongs.
"Minority Leader McCarthy indicated his support for House Republicans' increasingly open plotting to threaten a catastrophic economic meltdown in order to force wildly unpopular cuts to the bedrock of American seniors' financial security," bellowed Pelosi's press shop. "Leader McCarthy is just the latest of a growing list of extreme MAGA Republicans who have not-so-subtly suggested brutal cuts on Medicare and Social Security."
Well sure, that's a politician's reaction, but what about a responsible journalist? "Republican leaders—by their own admission—are prepared to provoke a global financial crisis, on purpose," wrote MSNBC's Steve Benen. Oh.
In the event, it took Kevin McCarthy all of one day to furiously walk back even the perception about his remarks.
"I never mentioned Social Security or Medicare," the Bakersfieldian said on CNBC. "Actually, in the 'Commitment to America,' we say to strengthen Social Security and Medicare….The debt ceiling needs to be raised, but I also know I'm going to strengthen Social Security, Medicare."
McCarthy does not have a reputation for being the sharpest tool in the shed. In contrast, his senior counterpart Mitch McConnell—you know, the guy who so eagerly ditched the debt ceiling as a negotiating tool in December 2021 that Donald Trump called him a "Broken Old Crow"—is known by friend and foe alike for being among the canniest legislative operators in American politics. McConnell has shown zero enthusiasm for debt-ceiling brinksmanship and government shutdowns for going on nearly a decade now; McCarthy popped a tepid trial balloon after just 24 hours.
No matter. The emerging media/Democratic consensus, even in the absence of anything like an actionable plan or visible campaign politics around using the debt ceiling to force entitlement cuts, has solidified around accusations of deliberate economic sabotage.
"There's nothing—nothing—that will create more chaos, more inflation, more damage to the American economy than this," Biden said Monday. "Republicans are determined to hold the economy hostage….It's outrageous."
Echoed MSNBC host Chris Hayes Tuesday night: "This is blindingly obvious, but worth stating over and over. A GOP house majority would have every incentive to do whatever possible to make the US economy worse in the run-up to 2024. The only reason *not* to do that is some sense of public duty, and I'm not holding my breath."
It is worth noting even in a speculative piece of writing about entitlement-related politics that the Medicare Hospital Insurance Trust Fund is headed toward depletion by 2026, and that Social Security is currently projected to reach insolvency in 2034, after which (if nothing is changed) come mandatory, across-the-board 20 percent cuts to every recipient. This used to be the type of predictable, well-documented, long-range catastrophe that politicians from both major political parties felt motivated to warn about and even organize around now and then—the subject came up in every State of the Union Address from 1997 to 2013, for example.
In fact, one of the key reasons that entitlement-reform negotiations were on the table from 2010–2013—and likely will not be in 2023–24—is that a Democratic president helped put them there. "There's no doubt that we're going to have to…address the long-term quandary of a government that routinely and extravagantly spends more than it takes in," Barack Obama said in February 2010, while announcing the new National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform, co-chaired by Alan Simpson and Erskine Bowles. "Without action, the accumulated weight…of ever-increasing debt will hobble our economy, it will cloud our future, and it will saddle every child in America with an intolerable burden."
The Simpson-Bowles framework, which involved (among many other things) raising the age of Social Security and subjecting some entitlements to means-testing, failed to receive enough votes in the bipartisan committee, though it did lead directly to the Budget Control Act of 2011, the creation of yet another eventually-failed bipartisan entitlement reform committee, and—as a triggered punishment of that committee's failure—sequestration spending caps.
The Tea Party-wave midterm elections of 2010, in which whole swaths of often-insurgent Republicans campaigned directly and loudly on spending cuts and entitlement reform, obviously influenced the contentious fiscal politics of those years. But there were also some willing Democrats on the other side of the table.
How does that compare to 2022? Limited-government conservatism has gone the way of the dodo bird—if there are any Rand Pauls or Thomas Massies in the freshman 2022 class, I certainly haven't heard of them. The rising National Conservatism movement is explicitly big government; the hot policy action in the GOP is about expanding welfare to encourage families.
Democrats have changed, too. Twelve years after his boss entertained demographic tweaks to old-age entitlements, Biden has taken to labeling any such proposal as "ultra-MAGA." Key to that absurd mislabeling is the dramatic elevation of a February "Rescue America" pamphlet from Sen. Rick Scott (R–Fla.) whose entire explicit verbiage about entitlements is contained within one sentence: "Force Congress to issue a report every year telling the public what they plan to do when Social Security and Medicare go bankrupt."
How, exactly, does this amount to cutting Medicare and Social Security, as Biden charges daily from the stump? Via this passage from Scott: "All federal legislation sunsets in 5 years. If a law is worth keeping, Congress can pass it again." In the president's hands, these 18 aspirational words, untethered to any imagined mechanism or draft bill, became this:
He's proposed a plan to put Social Security and Medicare on the chopping block every five years. If you don't vote for it again, it goes away. That means every five years, Congress will vote to cut, reduce, or completely eliminate Social Security and Medicare.
Turns out that Scott was asked directly back in March whether he wants to "potentially sunset programs like Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security." His response:
No one that I know of wants to sunset Medicare or Social Security, but what we're doing is we don't even talk about it. Medicare goes bankrupt in four years. Social Security goes bankrupt in 12 years….I think we ought to figure out how we preserve those programs. Every program that we care about, we ought to stop and take the time to preserve those programs.
Rick Scott, influential though he is, does not run the Republican caucus in the Senate. The man who does, Mitch McConnell, had this initial reaction to Scott's blueprint: "We will not have as part of our agenda a bill that raises taxes on half the American people and sunsets Social Security and Medicare within five years."
In their cascade of confident doomsaying about GOP entitlement-slashing and economic sabotage, left-of-center commentators have hit on one almost uncannily similar theme. "The one political fight that's likely to matter most next year is the one thing most voters are hearing very little about," Steve Benen wrote. "The single biggest thing at stake in next month's midterm elections has attracted only a sliver of…attention," agreed Matthew Yglesias. "The most important question," Paul Krugman averred, "will be one that is getting hardly any public attention: What will the Biden administration do when the G.O.P. threatens to blow up the world economy by refusing to raise the debt limit?"
Maybe voters are blind to what only anti-GOP columnists can see. Maybe serious entitlement-reform groundwork has been laid by Republicans without attracting any notice from the libertarians who are actually interested in the issue.
Or maybe the explanation is simpler than that.
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Biden and Journalists Agree: Republicans Would Deliberately 'Crash' the Economy
Democrats did it totally by accident.
But…does that make any sense?
This Rubicon has already been crossed. It was clear at the time that a prime mover for Democratic governors' reticence around opening up in 2020 was the electoral benefit of a dysfunctional economy.
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And Matt Welch will still campaign and vote for democrats
His articles are just fucking pathetic anymore.
Matt Welch is a commie that got kicked off /libertariannews.org for just that very reason.
Maybe Elon should buy Reason next and clean house.
The only way this really stops is to allow borrowing until interest payments (you know the only thing the Gov actually pays back as principal just rolls over) crowd out the "goodies". The Fed will monetize to the moon but inflation will hit harder and harder..the pols in charge will be against a rock and a hard place. Stop the goodies and they get voted out, keep on printing and inflation kills the economy, They could make more and more people work indirectly for the govt but that means a very unproductive economy (sort of like France on roids). There isn't a way out at this point other than a national divorce and default.
Sell the national debt to China, start a war with China, confiscate enemy assets.
OT: Tranny activist buys Miss Universe pageant.
https://apnews.com/article/entertainment-business-donald-trump-united-states-55fcee13cd78bfe4c48dbaaf6c15b1cd
BANGKOK (AP) — A Thai business tycoon and transgender activist has purchased the Miss Universe Organization for $20 million, her company announced Wednesday.
FTA:
“Chakrapong “Anne” Chakrajutathib, who controls JKN Global Group Public Co. Ltd., is a celebrity in Thailand who has starred in reality shows and is outspoken about being a transgender woman. She helped establish a nonprofit group, Life Inspired For Transsexual Foundation, to promote trans rights.”
Lying Jeffy adds Miss Universe Pageant to his watchlist.
In addition to the Disney channel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDqRJvHdwqo
Is Chemjeff Wendell Albright?
"Democrats did it totally by accident."
Why reinvent the wheel when inherent senility, and proven incompetence and stupidity are readily at hand?
It is amazing that TReason.com writers aren't aware the economy has already been crashed. That also every non-government economist is predicting a deep recession in 2023. But hey now the TReason writers are on board with Biden in making the excuse it is all the Republicans fault because they won the mid-terms. TReason.com an arm of the Biden propaganda machine!
The poll numbers on women voters are disheartening and reflect a knee-jerk reaction. After all, these same voters saw through the falsehoods of Donald Trump. Maybe now they have not considered that the root of high inflation is the money we had to pump into our economy to keep it from stalling — after the endless pandemic. Or maybe they have not considered that the main reason for the high gas prices is Putin’s attack on Ukraine.
What would they have had us do, let Putin overrun Europe?
Without a loss of American lives our country has managed to clip Putin’s wings, and short enough that he would not be a world menace for a while. Yes, we can now foresee a period of relative peace and tranquility in the world — all because of the valiant resistance of the Ukrainians — with our help and with the help of the Europeans. And it should be noted that the Europeans have sacrificed far more to help the Ukrainians and have done so while dealing with far higher gas prices and far higher inflation.
Pot calling the kettle black
> Biden and Journalists Agree: Republicans Would Deliberately 'Crash' the Economy
That's basically what British journalists accused Truss of, and what they claim Sunik will do. As if they goal of the Conservative Party is to trash England. Now granted, Truss was an idiot, but the goal was not to crash the economy.
Currency markets believed it.
How so, Pluggo?
Currency markets are weird. They want the helicopter drops because they are first under the helicopters.
Democrats Blame Republicans for Democrat Policies
Not the policies, just the predictable and obvious consequences.
Nuh-uh. Democrats don't believe in consequences.
And Biden has brought gas prices down from the $5.00 per gallon costs it was before his was elected. Good times!
disregard the fact that the party's most popular politician (Trump) campaigned explicitly on protecting entitlements and then presided over a larger spending increase in his first three-and-a-half years—pre-pandemic, mind you—than Obama managed in eight.
According to Peanuts this is only because Nancy "tricked" Donnie into his massive spending.
Golly Shrike, does the president or congress create the budget and spending bills?
Congress hasn't done its job since I was in college. That was Paleo Tech, mind you, where I majored in dinosaur wrangling. Uphill in the snow. Both ways. Regardless, Trump had his party's solid majority in both houses for two years, and wasted it.
Things are so much better now.
"Regardless, Trump had his party’s solid majority in both houses for two years"
Yes, and none of the spending bills Shrike is trying to ascribe to Trump happened during that period. They only occurred when the Democrats took control of congress.
What’s the point? His lies get shredded over and over. He just comes back and spews the same lies again. I really hope he’s tortured to death in prison.
It's because Obama took the baseline+one-time-emergency-we-promise-TARP-bailout spending from Bush and called that the baseline.
Spending is controlled by Congress, and specifically every spending bill must originate in the House. IMHO, Trump didn’t address Social Security and Medicare, or use the debt limit to cut spending, because he recognized it as a battle he can’t win (Congress wants the spending, including all the Democrats and the RINOs which comprise at least 70% of the GOP seats). So Trump chose to not address it; he had a hard enough time getting the GOP to keep their word about tax cuts. And fighting against Congress on this will lead to even more pushback and setting up Trump to be prosecuted, by the political class. He already had enough battles to fight against the political class: look how hard they fought back. McConnell’s on the side of the political class, just read Peter Schweitzer’s book “Secret Empires”.
Trump also knew talk of cuts to entitlements would generate more negative press for him. The Serenity Prayer says "accept the things I cannot change". Anyone who thinks entitlement reform can get through our statist government is foolish. The politicians always try to kick the can down the road, and not be in power when the SHTF - that's their plan. And that will happen when mandated cuts are necessary or taxes must be increased. AFWIW, IMHO, raising taxes makes things worse.
Trump knows how the economy works, and even better he knows the games politicians play. IMHO Trump is the most libertarian president in the last 60 years, and to support that statement, I’ll point out the excellent results of his EOs freeing up the economy from government regulators, in spite of all the spending. Especially compared to Biden’s economy and all his spending. And I should add, all the anti-freedom hysteria about what Trump would do (start a nuclear war with Kim, crash the markets, prosecute journalists, squelch freedom of the press, etc.) didn’t happen. And he was the first advocating opening back up during Covid. From my perspective as a libertarian for 40 years, Trump was a libertarian in his acts, not necessarily his words.
The rising National Conservatism movement is explicitly big government; the hot policy action in the GOP is about expanding welfare to encourage families.
Why does Matt Welch hate America?
(seriously, thank you Matt for telling the truth. The MAGA crowd is allergic to truth and still insists the GOP is "small government" despite evidence to the contrary) See also 2001-2009.
If our worst nightmare comes true and Republicans win the House, will you expand your #DefendBidenAtAllCosts playbook? Maybe add Category E: blame all bad news on GOP Congress?
Or will you continue to do what you've been doing for the first half of Biden's term — assert that everything's fine and the media is just way too mean to Biden? ("The press attacks Biden 24/7 with negative stories on inflation, immigration, and crime.")
#ItsToughBeingAnEstablishmentDemocrat
No, I'm hoping for gridlock.
History shows a GOP House and Dem president and Senate is optimum gridlock.
#OptimumGridlock
I'm hoping too. A Republican majority to counter Biden, but not so much that they can override his vetoes. Our salvation rests in bringing D.C. to a standstill. Fuck the zoo animals, shut it down.
There is effectively gridlock in Washington now, with the Dems unable to enact most of their free-spending proposals due to opposition from just a handful of internal opponents.
I, too, am happy to see that effect continue.
Dude, the GOP is all about small government. As long as they're not in power that is.
Dude, the GOP is all about small government.
Funny, that is the one thing Republicans never explained to Donnie.
How did Trump expand government, Shrike?
The whole "most amount of regulations cut" is actually code for biggest increese
Exhibit 1: End of Sequestration
The Budget Agreement today is so important for our great Military. It ends the dangerous sequester and gives Secretary Mattis what he needs to keep America Great. Republicans and Democrats must support our troops and support this Bill!
- Trump Tweet
Exhibit 2: Feeding the Beast
According to a report from the U.S. Treasury Department released on Monday, for the fiscal year-to-date, the U.S. has collected $59 billion from tariffs – an increase of 75 percent from the same period last year.
- Published August 12, 2019 , Fox News Business
Totalitarians love moronic eunuchs like you.
Where the hell have you been, Nardz? I thought you disappeared too.
Football season. And I've pretty much given up on the future of western civilization. Same shit over and over and over, nothing gets better- just a steady march into totalitarian hell. Football is more dynamic.
Neither of those examples are "expanding government".
But hey, people like sagn got the alternative they implicitly endorsed: https://www.outkick.com/joe-biden-vows-to-fix-unfair-airline-legroom-fees-for-people-of-color/
Increased taxes and spending aren't examples of expanding government? That is some prog logic - no increasing spending is budget cut.
Trump didn't have his signature initiative that every other president has wanted for their legacy. He didn't have a No Child Left Behind or Medicare Part D or Affordable Health or Green Initiative or other such bullshit new government program to solve a non-existent problem.
Give him credit for that.
The economy is turned over, on fire, at the bottom of a ravine, and the drivers are telling you the other guys are going to crash it.
You're completely full of shit. But other Republicans say the same.
2008 was an economy in disaster mode. Funny how Republicans won't mention it.
Today's economy is too hot - still pumped up on stimulus and at full employment with high demand. The Fed is doing its best to cause a real recession (not a .6 lame contraction).
2008 was the year (D) took back Congress
So what? The only thing they passed was TARP to "save" capitalism.
Wait, what?
The only spending bill the Democrats passed in 14 years was the TARP?
It was 2006.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_United_States_elections
Yep! The problem is the economy is SO GOOD and people are SO RICH! You tell 'em!
We're at full employment, numbnuts.
When Fatass Donnie was president UE was all his cult could talk about.
Sure, we're in bear market #43. Or #47? something like that. The last one was 2020.
oh, and spittin' tobacky is up.
The labor participation rate hasn't been this low since the 70s.
Economists attribute that to the well-to-do leaving the work force before SS age. Also SSDI makes middle aged Red state males into wards of the state.
I’ve known quite a few people who saw disability as a goal. I don’t get it myself. But they were happy to spend their days smoking pot and watching cable. Most of them are dead now. They went the way of a retiree with nothing to do. Wasted away and died.
Edit: Heck, every couple years my downstairs neighbor gets "injured" at work and tries to get disability. Like I said, I don't get it. Poverty is not my goal in life.
Hold on, Sarcasmic. Are you really agreeing with Shrike's employment claims here?
No wonder you idiots believe all this stupid shit about me.
You think "In my limited experience I've seen some of that, but I don't understand it" is the same as "Holy shit that explains everything, I totally get it!"
Fucking morons.
So no?
I don't understand the question.
He said economists say stuff.
What is there to agree or disagree with?
I think there is an increasing view that having a steady job is for "suckers". That the "system is rigged", and so the optimal strategy is to try to find the loophole or the workaround so that one can avoid the "rigged game".
People were saying the same thing thirty years ago. Why would it get so suddenly huge now?
It's generational. Something like 1/5 to 1/4 of Gen Z thinks they can make a living as an "influencer," and the whole "gig economy" shit doesn't encourage stable employment habits. Granted, past generations were trying to figure this out too, like investing in real estate or thinking you could make six figures selling ads on your Geocities web page, but Gen Z takes this slacker ethic to a whole different level.
My friend’s stepson just graduated high school. His biological mother is a welfare queen and is encouraging him to milk the system. He thinks he can make lots of money playing video games as a streamer. He does not have the personality to attract the following needed to make a loving doing that.
He doesn’t have any real plans or goals. His girlfriend also just dumped him because she was tired of driving him everywhere and laying for everything. He’s a nice kid, but not handsome enough or hung enough (so I’m told) to sponge off any girl he would actually be attracted to.
On the other hand, another friend of mine has a daughter that got her first real job at 15 and is a real go getter. She has lots of plans and goals. It’s a safe bet she will make something of herself.
I know someone who has less lower back problems than I do that is getting over $3k per month in disability alone. He sits in his ass 10 hours a day watching reality show garbage and toking up.
He’s a real piece of shit.
Economists? Which ones?
Low unemployment numbers reflect the fact that the previous “unemployed” are now not looking for jobs because they found out they can live off of the government give-always. These slackards are no longer included in the unemployment numbers. Thus, low unemployment numbers.
Yeah! Cite?
Yes! I'm the dumb one for not seeing how AWESOME the economy is! Tell everybody loudly and often!
GDP shrunk for the last two quarters. Real wages have fallen. Year-to-date, the S&P 500 is down nearly 20%.
That's not a strong economy.
GDP shrunk for the last two quarters
Which, it should be noted, is a remarkable feat considering the near-record inflation rate.
What is the 8 percent inflation, chopped liver?
Came to say same. I've seen what you consider to be a smooth-running economy. If you're worried the guy in the passenger seat is going to crash it, I say give him the wheel.
+1 Toonces, the cat that can drive a car!
(We didn't say how well.)
Nailed it! This economy is already crashing and leftists are looking for a scapegoat. Nothing will stop this collapse and leftists know that so they are simply lying to fool the fools under them. Anyone that buys this load of crap is a clown. ??
The problems in our democracy stem from ourselves. It should never be forgotten.
Speak for yourself
By definition I was.
Only is implied in my statement.
yeah, I didn't vote for these guys. or the guys before these guys.
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Whoever designed the optics of that speech deserves a raise. Very compelling anti-fascist imagery.
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Looks like he's throwing a Red Wedding. Where would he have gotten a notion like that?
Barack Obama said in February 2010, while announcing the new National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform, co-chaired by Alan Simpson and Erskine Bowles. "Without action, the accumulated weight…of ever-increasing debt will hobble our economy, it will cloud our future, and it will saddle every child in America with an intolerable burden."
Obama had Tom Coburn on his side. They were the last of the fiscally responsible members of their parties.
"Obama was fiscally conservative"
Now we REALLY don't have to take anything you say seriously. Not like we ever did, but still.
It should surprise nobody that the Democrats would rather focus the weak-minded among the voting public on what the Republicans might do than upon what the Democrats actually did and how it is turning out just before a potentially disastrous mid-term election. What is perhaps a bit more surprising is that the only apparent difference between the "conservative" party and the "progressive" party seems to be what the GOP says it wants to do but won't actually ever do. Both parties want to keep power for themselves but only the Democrats ever enact their agenda.
If Republicans still supported economic liberty then the left might have a point. By that I mean the left truly believes economic liberty turns the landscape into corporate fiefdoms where rich barons whip starving workers on their way to the salt mines. The left wants an economy controlled by the government because to them anything else is chaos.
However Republicans have become almost as hostile to economic freedom as the Democrats.
So the left really has nothing to bitch about.
I wish they WOULD shut down the government. But they won't. I wish they WOULD cause an economic crisis while there's still something left of our infrastructure to rebuild upon. But they won't.
No, ESTABLISHMENT republicans are a problem. Not republicans in general. Unlike the democrat party which is homogeneously Marxist.
Shorter answer: the Dems are desperate. They see the typical midterm anti-President polls being worse because of the economy and wokism, and are trying to create straws to clutch at.
Agreed. They've seen the Repubs lie to their voters with impunity, and are too weak to resist doing the same thing.
Not my problem!
Way to blame the shortcomings of Democrats on Republicans, but you do you.
This is the best article I have ever seen at Reason.
Is it a coincidence MAGA chickenshits like ML, Jesse, Sevo, and Briggs backed off like women do when Herschel points a gun at their heads?
"This is the best article I have ever seen at Reason."
Because it exposed democrat talking point about "republicans holding the economy as a hostage" as a lie, especially since most republicans aren't serious about cutting entitlement spending? JUST LIKE democrats?
You forget that loud GOP opposition to ACA (effectively) led to demise of the individual mandate and penatalx. Obama permanently increased spending baseline with one of the biggest autopilot program in modern history. The GOP also risked prolonged shutdown to at least slow down the rate of future growth in spending - remember that? The few times the GOP was willing to cut anything, the dems massively opposed it. To this day, democrats oppose education and medicare vouchers.
Where were you, I wonder, when the GOP opposed the disastrous BBB spending that was guaranteed to make inflation worse? TWO democrats joined the GOP to stop an ill conceived bloat that few economists supported. They later compromised on a smaller amount. Funny, I don't remember you applauding the GOP. "Unlike Donnie, they really stood for less spending!"
Of course no one here buys your fiscal conservatism act. You're a partisan hack and you just enjoy republicans being CALLED OUT for something. The substance doesn't matter. The democrats are the main stumbling block to cut spending, the GOP only need a handful of them to cross over to cut something. 60% of the nation properly blames the current mess on the ruling party. That includes you too, because I've seen you claim "I hate both Trump and Biden" Not even you can be Biden's shill.
he is a lying partisan piece of shit troll. But he makes up for it by being the worst racist allowed to post on the internet. So, he has that going for him.
So, basically just like everyone who writes for Reason
You do have a strange, and possibly sick, no, definitely sick obsession with Herschel. I strongly suggest going to see a shrink and stay away from any polling place on November 8.
"Biden and Journalists Agree:"
Climate change is an emergency, the border is not.
It's Trump's fault!
There is no recession.
John Fetterman is coherent.
Men can be women.
Focusing on race is not racist.
All elections are fair and open, unless a Republican wins.
Joe Biden is a great President.
Not producing oil in the US is a good idea, so we can beg dictators for oil.
Protesting for election integrity on public property is a threat to democracy.
Spending 400 billion dollars without a vote by the legislature is not.
One of two things is going to happen to Social Security:
Substantial cuts to benefits, or
Replacement with a means-tested welfare program for the elderly.
Anyone who denies this is not being serious.
Nope, just take more from the workers.
Or 3, raise the withholding rates and raise the income limit subject to the tax.
Guess which one will happen.
4. Raise the age for eligibility.
Awesome, threatening to cut Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security are great reasons to vote Republican to me.
If only we had the Republican Party these retards think we do.
Lol, I know right?
I wish we had one that would declare war on the democrat party and Marxists in general, prosecuting a new Red Scare on a level that would eclipse the McCarthy era by orders of magnitude. Until there isn’t a single Marxist left in the US.
Them actually doing it, however, is never going to happen.
Then what will you do? Support them anyway, of course!
I know they're not going to do it, I'm not a fucking idiot. I'm making a joke because the thing they find to be an attack I see as a positive.
Fair enough.
Ahhh the iron law of progressive projection
They are always projecting! Everything they accuse others of almost always applies more accurately to their behavior. Why do you think they are always calling people racist?
As Democrats and the journalists who root for them navigate the fraught final two weeks of an increasingly grim-looking midterm election campaign, many have settled on a message to counteract criticism over the anxiety-inducing state of the national economy: Republicans are worse because they would wreck it on purpose.
The journalists who root for them are "nearly all journalists".
"the opinions of the author are those of (D)"
Remember the days when 'fair and impartial journalism' ruled the land and journalists would be pre-eminently insulted as professionals if you even obliquely hinted that they were slanted?
1. It's not happening.
2. OK, it is happening. But it's not as bad as you thought.
3. It's happening and it's as bad as you thought, but it's a good thing.
4. Shut up, eat bugs, bake the cake, get vaxxed, hire illegals to replace natives, neuter your kids, degrade "women", support war, spend money you don't have to fight inflation, and vote 'D' to avoid getting truly fucked. <- You are here.
5. Buy a Tesla.
6. No wait, those are made by Elon Musk.
New insect protein company with the marketing tagline: I can't believe it's not meat!
Company name: Better than 'sects!
Funny how there is no explanation on their site about the actual ingredients in what they allege is food.
I always thought it was a mistake to believe that the news business was any different from other businesses. They have a market, and they serve it. If that market wants the truth, they provide it, and if that market wants lies, they provide them. All good capitalism.
The Republicans better hurry as there is not much left to crash.
So what, besides political PTSD, is prompting this confidence in such an apocalyptic assertion?
Answer: Democrat politics as supported by the media.
Democratic officials have done a better job with the American economy for at least a half-century, probably longer.
People gullible and uninformed enough to believe in fairy tales might see it differently.
Things are so much better now.
Is your portfolio right now far more valuable than at any time during the Trump years, Art? Go ahead and brag if that's the case. I'd love to hear it. Especially since "American Socia1ist" has gone oddly silent on the topic.
#LibertariansForBiden
#BestEconomyEver
Might want to take a few more hours to sleep off that bottle of Cisco, Reverend.
Not my favorite troll, but you'll get there.
He should bring back his homoerotic oral rape fantasies.
Yeah, I’m sure he famtasizes about Trump for holing him. Just like Jeffy, Shrike, etc.
Buttplug does this better. You're not even worth the time of day.
Confession through projection. Biden did do it on purpose, beginning with pulling the plug on Keystone XL and oil leases. And then the food industry, which we'll notice within a year or so.
He is deliberately destroying the comfortable civilization that is our human right.
Again, democrats accusing that of which they are guilty.
Because the economy right now is not crashing – it is being crashed. As incompetent as I would agree democrats are, this much destruction of the economy, education, law and order, world security, simply could not happen by accident.
Destruction is the AGENDA, not an error.
FDR - The Great Depression
Obama - The Great Recession
Biden - The Great Inflation
Anyone who believes this leftard pumped garbage is delusional.
Never-mind it's blatant lies in an attempt to keep GROWING the Nazi(National Socialist)-Empire conquering any notion of the USA.
You missed Cater, the Great Stagflation
The Dims are focused on two sets of data. 1. They will likely loose the House and maybe the Senate. 2. A recession is very likely here now and if not it is on its way. How can this benefit the Dims? Just plan on blaming the new Republican Congress. That is the play they are doing. Its that simple.
And it’s going to work, too, because American voters are indeed that gullible, ignorant, greedy, and entitled.
Getting rid of the leftist media would put a stop to that.
It might help a little, but sadly, this is a more pervasive problem than just the left.
Am I the only one to see what is going on? He is preparing the ground for when the Republican congress won’t give him whatever he wants and he veto’s the bill and then he can say see we said they would do this? Watch and see, congress will pass a perfectly acceptable spending bill that leaves out all the nonsense they want money for…Biden will veto it.
Of course. And American voters will believe it and then reward Democrats with a big win in 2024.
The root problem here is that American voters are greedy, entitled, and ignorant, and they will vote for whoever promises to bring home the unearned bacon.
Exactly.... +1000000000000
Even going so far as electing criminals (liars/cheaters) as officials of the "government" to create a treasonous "government" (The Nazi-Empire) in it's place in order to conquer the core principles (i.e. The Supreme Law) of this nation.
There's a reason the USA wasn't founded as a Nazi-"democracy".
After the lockdowns of 2020 and 2021 - - - which were rescinded NOT based on number of COVID cases but instead ENTIRELY because the people called BS - - - the Democrats are actually out there saying that the OTHER GUYS are trying to crash the economy?!?!?!?!?!?!?
The technical term for that is "gaslighting."
Well, they claimed they opened schools too when Republicans kept them shut.
When Paul Voelker was Chairman of the Fed, he put the economy in a deep recession, worse than the recession in 2008, on purpose.
Inflation had become systemic, and the economy needed to be rid of two problems, too many dollars chasing too few goods, and people buying now because waiting until later meant a higher price.
To get inflation down, it will mean a cooling of consumer demand.
Yes, people haven't traveled for some time due to Covid, but we don't need every last person getting on an airplane now.
Nor does it mean that because a neighbor spent money on a home renovation, due to the inability to travel, I need to keep up.
My wife is contemplating buying a new car, but the dealer sells cars, before the carrier arrives at the lot. She can't even see the two models that interest her in person.
We can’t have a “cooling of consumer demand” when the response to inflation is to send out stimulus checks, drop import tariffs, blow up billions of military equipment in proxy wars, and pass infrastructure packages.
American consumers have become accustomed to a level of wealth and spending that is far out of proportion to their ability to earn money and produce value. They have become entitled and lazy. And they demand that their politicians somehow deliver the goods for them, and politicians of both parties are complying.
What the US needs is higher taxes on the middle class, higher import tariffs, and much less government spending. Good luck getting any politician to pass that. Even self-proclaimed “libertarians” favor cheap consumer goods above all else and are willfully blind to the fact that cheap consumer goods are the outcome of government coercion and very non-libertarian policies.
It's been clear for a while that the economy is in a downward spiral as the fed attempts to reel in inflation. There will be a recession no matter what. This is a creative pre-emptive finger pointing exercise to set the stage for talking points and blaming when Repubs start to gain back some power.
But a deliberate crash would actually be a sign of competence, so that might be seen as an improvement over the status quo.
The Democrats are both malicious and incompetent.
That seems to apply to all politicians these days, as far as I can tell.
The Dems are more so.
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Biden (and Democrats) and media support each other's delusions?
Duh. The only question is which one is the bottom this week.
Chris Hayes: what a pussy.
He’s a sigma male, at best. I really hope he runs afoul of rioting antifa thugs and screams how he’s on their side as they beat him half to death. Like they did with Andy Ngo.
Yet it was Pelosi who was SoH during the economic meltdowns of 2008 and 2020. Dems are projecting again.
Any rational economic policy necessarily will crash the economy because the economy is suffering from decades of malinvestments, government overspending, over regulation, and Keynesian stimuli.
The government managed to paper over the deep problems in the economy for a while by printing more money, but its ability to do so is hitting.a wall.
The real question is whether Republicans want their reputation tarnished with the inevitable crash. Maybe a weak win, taking over the House but not the Senate, is the best outcome: that way, Republicans can prevent the worst impulses of the Biden administration but have most of the blame still fall on Democrats.
Blame shifting. What an ambitious agenda you've proposed.
Huh? How am I "blame shifting"? Shifting from who to who?
And I'm not proposing am agenda at all. I'm saying that the economy is f#cked no matter what you do.
Shift = move.
He specifically stated a strategy in which the party responsible retains their responsibility or blame.
He feared that DEMS could be successful in shifting their blame.
And yeah, I know that you knew that, but just wanted to ensure you are not successful in shifting blame.
Well, duh, Republicans won't do anything. But it's about battlespace preparation.
As soon as Republican win, the media will declare there is a recession and it's the Republican's fault.
Because we are in a recession. But because the Democrats in power, they've decided to change the definition of recession.
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Biden has already crashed the economy. Every non-government economist says we will have a serious recession coming because of that. Dementia Joe is looking for someone, everyone, anyone to blame for his bad policies. Let's not forget this started with the Democratic governors shutting down and crashing their states economies to discredit Trump. Then it continued with Biden's 40 executive orders overturning everything Trump did good to prove him wrong, and amazingly keeping only what Trump did bad, like to much spending and domestic spying, not only keeping that bad policy but doubling down on the bad policy.
Yet Biden is fooling no one, not even the liberals that won't admit the truth, but they know.
For several years now, I cannot stop wondering, in utter disbelief, how so many people must be accepting what the MSM is saying, despite the rather obvious lies.
Such willful ignorance!
i can forgive ignorance, I cannot forgive willful ignorance.
"But…does that make any sense?"
To the author - you even asking that foolish question says a lot about your particular biases...
While a bunch of republicans in office are not ideal, it is far preferable to a bunch of democrats in office. We need at minimum a third option to this basket of fools.
The only thing we have is divided government to reduce either of the two corrupt political powers from accumulating more power.
Vote and vote third party. Deny the two corrupt parties the talking point of a majority. These fools believe that they have a mandate if they get over 50 percent of the votes case, not understanding the greater numbers eligible voters that didn't cast a vote.
Abstaining from voting does not remove power from the two corrupt parties, but rather empowers them. While not perfect, voting for a third party does remove some power from the two corrupt parties.
Shock the system by denying both of the two corrupt parties your vote and instead cast your vote for a third party candidate.
So a third party with only 1/3 of the vote would be an improvement?
A third party would somehow be immune to corruption?
A third party would rarely take evenly from both main parties. More often than not, it would take away from the majority view.
If most people liked the conservative platform, but they liked the more moderate version, the majority of conservatives would likely splinter, while the minority liberals would not have that luxury and would be less likely to split.
If this happened, the minority, less than half, would gain the victory.
Regardless, a third party almost always guarantees a false majority.
Matt Welch, being a writer/pundit, may never have had sales training. If he did, rather than disproving the Democratic allegations of “crashing the economy”, he’d point out that good salesmen never disparage their competition (especially based on lies, but it’s fair to point out the actual attributes of what the competition provides) but instead tell customers how their products/services satisfy the customer’s needs.
Biden’s pitch for votes, is disparaging his competition. That means, what he’s selling is worse than what his competition offers. Besides, I can’t think of a thing Democrats promised, on which they delivered (better economy, higher prosperity overall, no war, unity, end of Covid, prosperity, cleaner environment, etc.). In fact, they’ve delivered the opposite.
E.G., it used to be common knowledge that deficit spending without plans to pay off those debts leads to inflation. Now Biden is telling us that more deficit spending will reduce inflation. That's gaslighting you, and telling the political class, they're going to steal more of your money, via inflation.
It is likely that Biden and his party have concluded two things:
1. The economy is going to get worse regardless of what anybody in this administration does now or in the foreseeable future.
2. The opposition will likely have success in the mid-terms.
Therefore, Biden and his party are setting up the narrative that the worsened economy will be the oppositions' fault.
If #2 occurs, it is likely that Biden and his party will make much noise surrounding anything the opposition does will make the economy worse. And then, as if on queue, it may well happen.
A GOP house majority would have every incentive to do whatever possible to make the US economy worse in the run-up to 2024.
The most interesting aspect of this comment is how closely it describes Dems in the run up to the 2020 election. The strong economy was killing them, so they used their control of large state governorships and the federal bureaucracy to initiate the Covid shutdowns. The resulting unemployment eliminated Trump’s best campaign issue.
It’s Revealing exactly zero Dems objected to tanking the American economy in order to win an election. But now they pretend they care even though it is obviously not happening.
I can't believe Welch thought this needed further investigation. Seriously? It's an obvious lie
And?
After the democrats get skull fucked next month, they're going to need better material.
Isn't it redundant to declare that "Biden says/thinks" and that the "MSM says/thinks"?
Isnt Biden and the MSM redundent?
Of course they agree. They're working together to project what they've done onto their enemies.
"a Republican win is pretty much a guarantee of a political and economic crisis whose goal is to enact fiscal austerity,"
Don't threaten me with a good time. We've lacked fiscal austerity for decades.
IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE!
Sincerely! I am not being facetious.
This is exactly what the Biden administration is and has been doing and, ergo, for which they must accuse Republicans of doing it in order to attempt to inoculate themselves from it.
There is no possible way that the Biden administration, or Harris or Barney Fife could possibly make this many egregious, anti-America/destroy our economy mistakes. It has to be with the some objective that involves debilitating our country.
Name all times the liberal media Democratic propaganda machine has disagreed with Biden?
Crickets!
Wow! I never realized that Biden was our super secret Republican. He has done the economic devastation work that Dems and journalists anticipate. Glad the dems and their journalist minions are wrong again.