Texas Roofer Arrested in Florida for Helping Hurricane Victims
He's fully licensed, but not in the right state.

After Hurricane Ian pulverized parts of Florida earlier this month, roofer Terence Duque sprung into action.
Duque has run a successful Texas-based commercial and residential roofing business since 2008. He's got an A-plus rating from the Better Business Bureau and has been named a "preferred contractor" by national roofing supply company Owens Corning. And in the wake of Ian, there's an obvious need for roofers and other contractors in Florida, as cleaning up and repairing the storm's damage will take months, if not years. Duque thought he could help by offering his services to homeowners with damaged roofs in Charlotte County, near where the brunt of the storm hit.
The county's response: "Get him."
Duque was arrested for "conducting business in Charlotte County without a Florida license," the Charlotte County Sheriff's Office announced on Friday. If charged as a felony, that's an offense that could carry up to five years in prison under Florida law—although it's possible that Duque could be charged with only a misdemeanor offense that carries a mere one year of jail time.
Either way, it's an obviously outrageous response.
According to the Charlotte County Sheriff's Office, Duque got busted for his good deed after the Charlotte County Economic Crimes Unit—which is apparently a real thing—received a call from an investigator with the state Department of Business and Professional Regulation (DBPR).
When a detective with the sheriff's office tracked down Duque, the roofer reportedly said he believed he was allowed to work in Florida due to Gov. Ron DeSantis' emergency order that loosened licensing rules in the aftermath of the storm. "The investigator informed Terence that this was not the case, and that Terence would be placed under arrest, as he had already done work in violation of the statute," according to the Charlotte County Sheriff's Office.
No good deed goes unpunished, it seems.
"DBPR does not appear to realize that it is the bad guy here," says Justin Pearson, managing attorney for the Florida office of the Institute for Justice, a libertarian law firm. "When safe, successful businesses come to Florida in the aftermath of a hurricane to provide much-needed assistance, the last thing DBPR should want is for the workers to be arrested and charged with a felony. DBPR is punishing people for doing the right thing."
Pearson notes that 18 states have universal licensing recognition laws—meaning that a license issued in another state is accepted as valid—but Florida is not one of them.
That's convenient protectionism for roofers and other contractors in Florida, but it's terrible news for anyone who needs a new roof right now.
As FloridaPolitics.com noted, Florida's contracting licensing requirements are notoriously strict and costly. It takes four years to get licensed for a variety of residential and commercial construction work in Florida, according to data collected by the Institute for Justice.
Defenders of those licensing schemes argue they are meant to protect consumers from unscrupulous contractors and scammers, but this situation illustrates how consumers are hurt by those same rules. Allowing licensed roofers from other states to work in Florida would help make post-hurricane repairs move more quickly, and would give consumers more choices (and possibly lower prices) even in nonemergency situations.
"These people have been through enough, and I will not allow unlicensed contractors to further victimize them," Charlotte County Sheriff Bill Prummell said in a statement.
Heckuva job, Bill.
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As FloridaPolitics.com noted, Florida's contracting licensing requirements are notoriously strict and costly. It takes four years to get licensed for a variety of residential and commercial construction work in Florida
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The entire Kleptocracy--Grabbers Of Pussy and East German Democrats alike thrive on extortion and the peddling of work permits. Lazy Texas con artists bought a roofer licensing law. But pushback from actual independent contractors overturned it in the early 1980s. Now whenever the looters propose another extortion, Austin roofers meet, exercise eternal vigilance and share pizza at the State House until the legislative session ends. Fool me twice... shame on ME!
The arrest seems a bit much. And I don't really like licensing in general. They should let people deal with the consequences of a roof possibly not built to code, rather than have the law come in like this.
Maybe. I can understand where Florida is coming from here. Prior to Hurricane Andrew, the licensing and codes were rather weak, if they were even followed at all. That's part of what caused so much devastation in Homestead. It may just be that the State of Florida wants stronger licensing requirements and codes for roofers and roofs due to the hurricanes they get pretty much every year. Someone else's weak roof may blow off and into yours, damaging or destroying it, even if your roof is built well.
I don't know. And I'm fairly skeptical of that and sort of think that the rational way to handle code violations is with inspections after the fact to confirm that they conform to code, rather than licensing beforehand (which does not guarantee code work).
But I don't know. I can definitely see a tropical environment built on a sand barge having unusual code requirements. But I'm skeptical of a lot of code stuff too. This is all digression though, as I don't know the specifics.
I think we can likely agree that if he gets charged with anything criminal, unless there is some other circumstances that are revealed, that it's a pretty bad move. Mens Rhea really should matter in a case like this, and a guy saying "I thought the short-term changes to licensing allowed me to work here" seems like he can very reasonably make a case for misunderstanding.
Does Florida not have the usual litany of building inspectors who stick their noses everywhere looking for lucrative violations?
That's where I kind of think the emphasis should be, yeah. So, I have a hard time justifying this. Though I'm iffy on Code stuff as well. I think that's not a winnable debate at this point though. Licensing stuff has been moving positively in the right direction though.
I'm curious. Can one work on their own property. That is, if the contractor was working on his own home, uncontracted, would that be legal?
Yes. For things like roofs, there's a homeowner exception. Ditto for plumbing and electrical work. It's a bit different for architecture and engineering.
Okay. And that was intended as a real question. I have no idea about the building code in Arizona, let alone in a state I only visit when I want to fight off giant frogs.
Sorry, no. You are conflating building codes (which can be tailored to the unique needs of a location or risk area) with licensing which is not so tailored.
I'd be completely okay with a Florida inspector holding a Texas roofer to account over failures to abide by the Florida building code. But there is no even plausibly-good reason to arrest a Texas roofer who does abide by the local code.
the guy is on the Preferred Contractor Good Guy list with Owens COrning, one of the largest roofing material manufacturers in the country. I doubt there is a gnat's eyelash worh of difference between Texas and Florida coses regarding roofint. Don't forget, Texas have their share of 'canes too.
I was recently home-shopping in Florida, and they have some really strange roofing codes. In 1914, all composition shingles were installed 1/3 to the weather. When "we" joined WW1, a temporary law allowed the shingles to be made a foot tall instead of 15 inches, but "code" still allowed 5 inches to the weather. Every such roof develops leaks one inch long at the top of the cut-outs years before its time. To get around this, the shingles must be installed 1/3 to the weather, meaning 4 inches, not 5. But then they last too long.
"It may be..."
Really? -I- don't doubt for a second that the licensing is protectionism in action.
But presenting the arrestee as someone doing good deeds is a bit much, too. I don't mind a free market transaction IF he built good roofs, but let's not pretend that he was donating his time, either.
Delivering a needed good or service is a good deed, particularly in the aftermath of a natural disaster. This man came all the way from Texas to help people in Florida with skills that they need RIGHT NOW.
-jcr
When a Houston building was allowed to burn to the ground by government monopoly fire-flighters in 1979, laws were passed demanding that wood shingles be fireproof. Media helicopters fanned the flames and footage was shown to every looter-infested City Council. The result was chemical pressurization and depressurization legislation such that the wood shingles leaked like a sieve but were difficult to set on fire and passed code. So... happy now? Ask and I'll send you the full technical report on that 3-stooges disaster.
Protectionism on a local level. Who wants to bet a local contractor didn’t sic the law on this guy.
Yep, we don’t want no carpetbaggers.
The homeowner didn't mind.
And the workforce participation rate takes another hit.
At least the IRS is hiring.
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Duque has run a successful Texas-based commercial and residential roofing business since 2008. He’s got an A-plus rating from the Better Business Bureau and has been named a “preferred contractor” by national roofing supply company Owens Corning. And in the wake of Ian, there’s an obvious need for roofers and other contractors in Florida, as cleaning up and repairing the storm’s damage will take months, if not years. Duque thought he could help by offering his services to homeowners with damaged roofs in Charlotte County, near where the brunt of the storm hit.
I’m struggling with this one. If I’m not licensed to practice say, law in the State of California, and some disaster in California happens and the government mismanages it, generating a lot of lawsuits, and I swing into California from Montana and offer my legal services to the residents, is that something we just look the other way on?
There is certainly an argument to be made that there shouldn’t be ANY licensing requirements at all to do business for anything, anywhere at any time. But the fact of the matter is, many states have licensing requirements for construction firms to operate in the territory. This may seem like a “good deed” on the surface, and I certainly wouldn’t impugn Duque’s character merely because he saw a business opportunity to fill a need, but at some point, like carrying CBD oil into the former Soviet Union, you gotta know what rules you might be breaking when you do it.
There's the punitive aspect of this, is the potential for a five year prison term just? Likely not. Perhaps some kind of waiver program could be instituted by states when they suffer from a natural disaster:
Emergency provision: during state of emergency, a contractor, in good standing who is duly licensed in an adjacent state may, at the discretion of state officials, for a limited time conduct business within the state of X to provide a market-based need in the service of facilitating reconstructive efforts.
That's probably the wisest thing, an emergency provision. Maybe, in the case of Florida, limit it to contractors from other similar (i.e. hurricane-prone) states (such as Texas, Georgia, South Carolina, but not New York, California, etc.).
Only about 10% of Texas is near the coast and in danger of hurricanes at full force, so I wouldn't expect Texas state licensing or other policies to take hurricanes into account. (Local building codes should for counties along the coast.)
OTOH, all of Texas is at risk of tornadoes, with higher winds than hurricanes, and I hear Florida has even more tornadoes. So I'd expect that in either state, roofers are supposed to build to withstand most tornadoes, which should also be sufficient for wind damage from hurricanes. Flood surges are a different matter, but the roofer can't do anything about them.
Which does appear to be in place:
When a detective with the sheriff's office tracked down Duque, the roofer reportedly said he believed he was allowed to work in Florida due to Gov. Ron DeSantis' emergency order that loosened licensing rules in the aftermath of the storm.
If you follow the link given to the arrest record, you'll find that the contractor is on record saying he read the emergency order and took it to allow him to do work during this time. This, at the very least, should absolve him of any charges since this seems very, very clearly a case where he thought he was acting in good faith.
Right, I want to be careful here to not suggest that Duque was operating in bad faith.
Never in human history has someone cried out for a lack of lawyers.
Allowing licensed roofers from other states to work in Florida would help make post-hurricane repairs move more quickly,
Which would be meaningless in this case. If Lancaster had done just a bit of research, he would realize that Texas has no General Contractor licensing requirement nor any requirement for licensing for commercial or residential roofing. A license can be obtained through RCAT, but although Duque is a member, he has not passed the licensing exam.
An A+ rating with the BBB just means no complaints on file and you do not have to employ a single roofer to be "named a "preferred contractor" by national roofing supply company Owens Corning." None of which should be taken as slandering Duque. He is actually "platinum preferred" with OC which I would assume is awarded for spending adequate time fondling the balls.
While I agree that licensing does little to insure a contractor is honest or competent, every contractor has a responsibility to be aware of the business and contractor licensing requirements for a jurisdiction before bidding a job.
Every slave of Government Almighty has a responsibility to be aware of the slave-licensing requirements for a jurisdiction before bidding a job... And to HELL with the needs of the actual CUSTOMERS (HOWEVER DESPERATE THEY MIGHT BE IN AN EMERGENCY), in the supposedly free market!!!
Thus spake EVERY Marxist and admirer of Government Almighty, ever known to sentient beings, in this dimension, and beyond!!!
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Chuck, thanks for the facts.
Get real, Dianne/Paul. Lawyering is VERY different than roofing. Shingles get attached to the roof. There are methods that work, them that don't. It ain't rocket science. I learned how by picking up a shingle hatchet nd a pail of nails and DOING it.
Lawering is a horse of a whole nuther colour. Each state mangle the rules to their own peculiaritits, court protocols and roceedures, etc, are different, there are forty different ways of skinning a cat two of which are legal to use in Washington, one of those and three others in Oregon, none in California but nineteen others are, and Idaho allows thirty of the forty. Each lawyer MUST know ALL the rules in his state.
Shingles? Not so much difference. Most halfway competent high school kids can learn how to properly lay a roof in maybe three days "up there". That is, if they are slow and not motivated.
Bunk on your wartings......
Each lawyer MUST know ALL the rules in his state.
Nope. They only have to know how to look them up.
-jcr
That wooshing sound is the larger point flying over your head at super-sonic speed.
I’m struggling with this one. If I’m not licensed to practice say, law in the State of California, and some disaster in California happens and the government mismanages it, generating a lot of lawsuits, and I swing into California from Montana and offer my legal services to the residents, is that something we just look the other way on?
Literally yes. All you need in order to make it legitimate is find one attorney in the state to serve as local co-counsel, and you can work pro hac vice. Even if you have a massive firm of lawyers, just finding one local attorney who has passed the California bar would let you take over the case.
Ever notice how Ben Crump is practicing law in every state? That's how.
It's routine for a lawyer licensed in one state to be waived in to the bar in another state for a particular case.
-jcr
This is to both you and Thinking Mind, thank you for that info. However, that still doesn't change the larger point, we recognize there is a licensing regime, and it requires a process to get it waived etc. Again, I'm not trying to say I'm FOR the licensing scheme of the particular profession (a point that has been lost by at least one commenter) the point is, there's a licensing scheme. And probably a permitting scheme. You ignore those things at your peril.
Nice.
Auditioning for the Bee? That was certainly worthy.
Well, sheriff, elections are coming.
Well, sheriff, erections are cumming!!!
Get your nads off on licensing your cumpetitors, for your own advantages, NOW!!!! (And WHO CARES about what the consumers want, anyways?!?!?! Ass if THEY mattered?!?!?)
He's got an A-plus rating from the Better Business Bureau
So he is a scumbag? Been awhile since we've been shaken down by them but to get the plus rating, you just had to pay them regardless of your service history.
That aside fuck the Charlotte County Sheriff's Office.
There are quite a few people that (wrongly) believe the BBB is some sort of government run thing and/or has any authority whatsoever.
Electrical linemen have to be licensed in Florida. Florida has no reciprocal licensing agreements with other states. A number of states are sending crews to help restore power. So is this idiot sheriff going to arrest all of them?
I'm thinking utility companies are quasi-government entities and multi-state so will get special exemption.
Yes. (The Crime Squad video link was the icing on the cake for another award-winning Reason article.)
If Duque actually did some roofing for people, the State had jolly well better have that work demolished.
"When a detective with the sheriff's office tracked down Duque, the roofer reportedly said he believed he was allowed to work in Florida due to Gov. Ron DeSantis' emergency order that loosened licensing rules in the aftermath of the storm. "The investigator informed Terence that this was not the case, and that Terence would be placed under arrest, as he had already done work in violation of the statute," according to the Charlotte County Sheriff's Office."
If loosening license rules doesn't cover this (which seems like one of the most relevant licenses in the face of the destruction), what does it cover?
https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/emergency/tropical-storm-ian-emergency-order-pursuant-executive-order-no-22-218-amended-executive
I didn't look up the statutes, but it doesn't contain the word license or contractor.
Oops, this was the original order:
https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/emergency/state-florida-office-governor-executive-order-number-22-218-emergency-management-tropical
It still doesn't refer anywhere to contractors, although it specifically allows licensed medical professionals from other states to operate in Florida.
I would question why Duque thought he would be exempt. Reconstruction does not happen during the emergency, it happens after the emergency. I suspect he figured he wouldn't get singled out.
I’d argue that most of the medical care happens after the emergency as well…
If you film yourself doing the roofing and put it on YouTube, does it become a first amendment issue of free expression?
Depends if you're wearing a MAGA hat or not.
the Charlotte County Economic Crimes Unit
The subject was observed receiving payment for goods and/or services...
Nothing like having your ass knocked to the floor....
And then getting picked up, bent over, and being hit in the ass!
My first thought was, "Why the hell didn't DeSantis issue an emergency order allowing contractors licensed in other states to respond to urgent reconstruction after the hurricane?" Apparently DeSantis is only good at partisan culture war posturing, not at actually governing the state of Florida.
I will not allow unlicensed contractors to further victimize them,"
I will state uncategorically that this eedjit has done far more victimising of the locals recovering from the storm than this roofer could to in a year.
I wonder if all the other tradesmen rushing to help the victiims in Florida are all licensed in Florida. Linemen, bridge builders, heavy equipment operators, truck drivers, etc? They will be needing plumbers, electricians, framers, painters, excavators, dozers, and more roofers, especially now a good one seems to be in the clink.
SOmeone needs to bring this case to DiSantis. I'll bet he'll not only pardon this guy and get him released, but issue an executive emergency order mooting any licensing or tradesmen's qualifications to help wiht rebuilding.
What, will a troop of Boy Scouts travel down from Georgia or Alabama, start chucking stuff into a tip box, and get themselves arrested for helping without a license?
Mr. Duque, your papers don’t seem to be in order…..you must come with us please….
Hurricane damage? Round up the usual suspects!
Next they'll bust Tucker Carlson for letting his roof fly into Charlotte county without a landing permit.
Poor, poor Pucker Tarleyton. At least he'd rather fight than switch from Looter to Libertarian!
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DeSantis needs to step up and pardon Duque immediately. His credibility is at stake.
-jcr
It takes four years to get licensed for a variety of residential and commercial construction work in Florida, according to data collected by the Institute for Justice.
Jesus Haploid Christ. It does NOT take four years to learn how to apply a roof. I've said it many times about zoning, and I'll say it about licensing, too: Licensing is a racket.
-jcr
It takes four years of experience to get a 'contracting' license and it's not just for roofs. So big deal if you have to show some meaningful experience and are serious about becoming a contractor. But if you aren't going to put contractors in jail for hiring illegals then the law is beyond stupid.
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Cops should have checked him out, talked with the owners and the local DA who should have said let it, not the law itself, go. Kudos to the police for finding someone who could have been a grifter trying to make money by fraud and deceit - but the arrest here seems ridiculous.
The state laws shouldn’t apply to travelers then too. Speed limits shouldn’t apply, gun laws shouldn’t apply, abortion laws shouldn’t apply, etc. I used to be proud to be an American. Now I’m embarrassed to be an American.
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. Under FL law, he can be charged with a felony!
Is it any wonder that people don’t want to work when government becomes this tyrannical?
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They should have temporarily stopped him from working and given him time to connect with a licensed contractor and work under their license. In essence he would become a subcontractor under them. It would cost the consumer some extra but provide more state protections (and I have no idea if those protections are worth the cost).
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I'm curious to know whether Florida takes the same approach to physicians. When a physician licensed in another state but not in Florida provides emergency care in Florida, is he or she charged with practicing medicine without a license?