Are Paper Bags Really Better for the Environment Than Plastic Bags?
New Jersey is the first state to ban single-use bags made from both plastic and paper, but one is actually worse for the environment than the other.

In May, New Jersey became the first state to ban single-use bags made from plastic or paper in large grocery stores. The new ban lumps both types of totes together, but one is actually worse for the environment than the other. Which one? Paper bags.
Surprised? Let's delve into the data underlying the case for plastic over paper.
A 2005 life-cycle analysis commissioned by the Scottish government found that manufacturing paper bags consumes 10 percent more energy than manufacturing conventional plastic bags, uses four times more water, emits more than three times the amount of greenhouse gases, generates 14 times more water pollution, and results in nearly three times more solid waste. A 2007 study commissioned by what is now the American Recyclable Plastic Bag Alliance, an industry group, found that, compared to making plastic bags, making paper bags takes 3.4 times as much energy, produces five times as much solid waste, emits twice as much greenhouse gases, and uses 17 times more water.
A 2011 study commissioned by the U.K.'s Environment Agency found that "the paper bag has to be used four or more times to reduce its global warming potential to below that of the conventional [plastic] bag." The report noted that "it is unlikely the paper bag can be regularly reused the required number of times due to its low durability." The report added that paper bags were "significantly worse" than plastic bags "for human toxicity and terrestrial ecotoxicity due to the effect of paper production."
Other factors include transportation and disposal. Two thousand single-use plastic bags weigh about 30 pounds, while 2,000 paper bags weigh 280 pounds. By one estimate, it takes seven trucks to transport the same number of paper bags as one truck loaded with plastic bags. Paper bags also take up more space in landfills.
A 2020 United Nations Environment Programme report looked at several life-cycle analyses published since 2010. "Paper bags contribute less to the impacts of littering," it concluded, "but in most cases have a larger impact on the climate, eutrophication and acidification."
With respect to environmental impact and consumer choice, New Jersey really should reconsider banning both plastic and paper.
This article originally appeared in print under the headline "Paper vs. Plastic."
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See https://reason.com/2022/09/08/paper-vs-plastic/?comments=true#comment-9692436
But when I go to the store and buy 6 items, I get 6 plastic bags. You can fit the same amount of groceries in one paper bag. Does the fact that you use far fewer paper bags than plastic bags fit into your analysis?
Excellent point, was volume of one plastic bag to one plastic bag factored? How many plastic bags are swirling in the oceans compared to paper?
Do plastic bags ever breakdown?
Can I cover my kids’ school books in plastic?
You also can't start a bonfire with a plastic bag.
you can, but it smells bad
That's subjective.
literally top of my list is waterskiing behind an Iroquois
1. It depends on the study. But even if you assume 2:1, the costs of paper are still substantially greater.
2. Almost zero compared to a slightly smaller almost zero.
3. Yes, though it does take a little bit longer than paper. It also depends on sunlight rather than water to drive the breakdown so the plastic bag tends to stay visible longer as it's breaking down.
4. I suppose you could but it won't look very good. On the other hand, used plastic bags are far superior for cleaning up after my dog.
“plastic bags are far superior for cleaning up after my dog.”
No, plastic grocery bags aren’t better for cleaning up after your dog. Thanks to lots of rips and thin plastic, you’re getting dog shit all over your hands.
I've been doing it for years. Odd as it may seem to you, most humans are smart enough to look for rips in the plastic before using the bags. I've never once gotten anything on my hands because of a bag failure.
I use my plastic bags to scoop cat shit. My one concession to the recycling club. Everything else goes in the dumpster and to a responsibly managed (I assume) landfill.
"Can I cover my kids’ school books in plastic?"
Why would you cover their school books in paper from used paper grocery bags? That sounds unsanitary.
Use not previously used butcher paper or craft paper.
The problem is that new butcher or craft paper is not routinely available to most people - especially not those in the demographic where wrapping school books to prevent damage fees is a priority. For most folks, used paper bags were the only practical source for craft paper big enough for the job.
And no, we didn't use the bags that were damp from carrying the chicken. Those go to the trash. But there's nothing inherently unsanitary about the bag that held only cans and cereal boxes.
You can, but they won't be able to read them. 😉
"But when I go to the store and buy 6 items, I get 6 plastic bags."
Are you retarded?
That's how the bagger or cashier bags them. The bags tend to be so flimsy that they really don't hold much. I've even seen cashiers double-bag single items in plastic bags.
Apparently BTR hasn't done much shopping. Guess he thinks Amazon and such is environmentally friendly.
Back in the day, paper bags were routinely double-bagged, too.
But it depends a lot on what's going into the bag. Yes, the gallon of milk is going double-bagged and probably alone. The cereal boxes are not.
Back in the day they used to have competitions for baggers and box boys (yes that was a thing) vying to pack groceries in the fewest number of bags.
Pretty sure that included putting the tomatoes and eggs in first.
Only if they didn't like you.
No, bread, then tomatoes, then eggs. Then the heaviest item you bought. 🙂
I do this precisely because the plastic bags are shitty. As long as we're not talking about Nuremberg-level stuff, aggressive compliance is a great way of demonstrating the absurdity of things.
Does the fact that you use far fewer paper bags than plastic bags fit into your analysis?
Except "we" don't. You or your grocer may choose to put 6 items in 6 separate smaller bags but that's not intrinsic to the material. Intrinsic to the material, plastic has a higher tensile strength, strength to weight/mass ratio and lower $/g cost. Meaning you can carry more groceries with less plastic at a lower cost than you can with paper whether you choose to or not is up to you. I frequently load plastic and paper bags until they break. Lighter weight plastic bags virtually always carry more. Paper bags routinely break and, when they do, it's virtually always somewhere where the paper isn't double-layered and stuck together with polymer/plastic glue.
you don't get out much to shop either. Plastic bags, especially when recycled, are petrochemical abortions. Paper bags are square and thick, so the fit more and don't tear with edged packages. Also, at least using paper encourages paper companies to plant more trees to replenish their supply.
Invoking 'petrochemical' as a scare word is amusing, but even more amusing is using 'abortion' as an explicative. If you were trying to piss off everyone, that's a pretty decent way to do it.
Both terms used to describe plastic bags are statements of fact.
If others are shocked or offended, then like the Amish bumper sticker says: "Let The Chips Fall Where They May."
(And trust me as a retail employee, if you carry your chips in recycled plastic, they will fall where they may!)
you don't get out much to shop either
I'm starting to think that YOU don't shop much.
The image of the husband carrying every bulging plastic bag festooned all about him so as to avoid multiple trips is ubiquitous.
Truthfully, the only time I every hear of this supernally flimsy plastic bag is from someone trying to get rid of them --for the greater good, of course.
The rest of the time they're described as inherently evil and eternal.
Classic leftist doublethink.
I both get out to shop and I work in retail, so I speak with authority when I say that plastic bags are petrochemical abortions. That doesn't make them "evil," simply useless for carrying groceries.
A single paper bag for a few items or a vinyl bag or single cardboard box for the whole load gets everything and much less awkwardly. And when you're finished, paper bags and boxes biodegrade and make great compost.
In fairness to plastic bags. some people braid them into colorful throw mats for the door or porch. If this gives the bags a loving home and keep the landfills empty, great, but they are useless for their intended purpose.
Plastic is only stronger when you get contractor-grade plastic bags. Those things could serve as a pup tent shelter, a poncho, a grill cover, even carry a body if your SHTF scenario has a loss. Those I'll always recommend.
But the grade of plastic used for grocery bags is typically recycled and loses thickness and tensile strength with each recycling and loses the ability to retain shape so at the ends of bagging bundles, you get mangled bags that won't hold anything.
Plastic bags are also hard to get open, so you get knuckle-draggers who lick their finger to get the bags open and spread their stench-of-death to everyone else. No such problem with paper. I use hand sanitizer when getting mine open, but the benighted savage customers haven't caught on yet.
Are Paper Bags Really Better for the Environment Than Plastic Bags?
No. Next question. They're a damn sight better for the environment in my head because they give me peace of mind.
A 2011 study commissioned by the U.K.'s Environment Agency found that "the paper bag has to be used four or more times to reduce its global warming potential to below that of the conventional [plastic] bag." The report noted that "it is unlikely the paper bag can be regularly reused the required number of times due to its low durability." The report added that paper bags were "significantly worse" than plastic bags "for human toxicity and terrestrial ecotoxicity due to the effect of paper production."
These guys don't get out much to shop for groceries. Paper Bags easily last that long if you shop for dry items, whereas recycled plastic bags break and tear with th slightest weight. Also, it always takes less energy to reuse than recycle.
Aldi and Lidl have the best idea about bags: You can get paper, plastic, or vinyl...as long as you pay for them. This practice reflects true costs to the consumer and encourages re-use. Also, they let customers even bring their own boxes, so they are even more conservation-friendly.
No. Next question. They're a damn sight better for the environment in my head because they give me peace of mind.
Can't tell if serious or parody.
To answer your question, yes. Again, next question.
By the bye, does "BYODB" stand for "Bring Your Own Damn Bag"? 😉
Another thing: When plastic bqgs break and merchandise gets smashed on the ground, whatever was in the bag goes into the ecosphere as food waste or toxic waste if it is toxic chemicals. So the pqper or vinyl or box that holds better is reqlly the better choice.
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Not my experience but ok. People also use plastic bags for in trash cans, poop pick and other things.
Best burn it or use it as a book cover (I'm old). What do you use paper bags for after? Again, you still haven't talked the weight or creation issue. There was a reason stories went to plastic bags and it wasn't "oh lets make it harder for the customer and we hate the environment"
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Q: Are Paper Bags Really Better for the Environment Than Plastic Bags?
A: New Jersey is an oppressive shit hole that shouldn't ban either one.
This is the same state where most municipalities require leaves to be place in large paper bags for collection in the fall.
No worries. Residential leaves will soon be hoarded for food and/or fuel.
Got any good recipes for acorns?
Ackshuyally, there is a book called A'corns and Eat 'Em! which gives acorn recipes. You have to boil out the tannen so they aren't bitter, but the American Indians used them for flour and many other purposes.
It's an extremely annoying law, particularly when you just need to pop into the grocery store for a couple of things on your way home from work. I've not met a single person of any political affiliation that likes it, so I'm surprised at how its existence is basically treated as a fait accompli.
I don't remember reading the term "Virtue Signal" in the article. The writer needs to convey how important this is and underlies the whole purpose.
A "libertarian" web site never once mentions that the state should not ban either one.
I am shocked, shocked.
Did you read the article? It's pretty much implied.
What the frequent critics of Reason here want is for Reason to go on a screed in every article and blog post, like they are used to reading on right-wing media.
Cite? 🙂
I don't think you know what 'read', 'implied', or both means.
I read the article and it's standard Reason. The author cedes the Statist ground then quibbles over the details.
Tagging this post as "science" is a joke. As someone mentioned above, this is virtue signaling by an incompetent governor and legislature.
Also missing is the fact that this law doesn't apply only to large grocery stores. My local bakery, CVS and Walgreens no longer have plastic bags (although the Chinese take out still has them).
Interestingly, CVS and Walgreens are now using paper bags, seemingly in violation of the law.
"Let's delve into the data underlying the case for plastic over paper." Over 75% of the article is discussing studies that try to compare the impact of plastic vs. paper bags. Seems like the "science" tag can be justified in my estimation
So the "science" favors plastic but NJ bans both. Is that following the science?
No, but no one here claimed that NJ was following the science.
Nothing better than putting fresh produce in a reusable fabric bag that had a leaky chicken in it a couple days ago.
"in a reusable fabric bag " that was made in China.
Mmm, salmonella peaches.
You joke, but I had food poisoning from peaches last year.
Sam & Ella singing acapella...
You have to put the peaches in a plastic bag before putting them in a fabric bag.
Natch, you wash the thing before reusing it, of course!
Some stores I have lately increased shopping at provide NO (0) bags. Aldi and Sam's Club come to mind. I remember some stores (Aldi?) were selling bags. The local full service grocery store (HyVee) has gone crazy on inflated prices. But they provide all the bags you want.
How dare you try to impose your white privilege science, with data and numbers and shit! The People hereby declare that for grocery store bags, The Science is settled--based on a huge consensus of drum circle participants and eco-Karens.
Besides, given inflation and pending rules on prohibited grocery items, you will not need a bag to carry your daily food unit after purchase.
"you will not need a bag to carry your daily food unit after purchase."
But you will want one anyway, no doubt.
Did you ever play space man with a dry cleaner bag? If not, give it a try.
The extra long zip ties are key to securing the spaceman 'helmet' under the chin...
How dare you impose White Supremacist ideas of requiring people to actually buy groceries at a store! 😉
Besides, given inflation and pending rules on prohibited grocery items, you will not need a bag to carry your daily food unit after purchase.
What nonsense.
Your nutritional paste will be dispensed from the nipple next to the defecation orifice in your tube, as always.
Just wait til cardboard boxes are banned.
"Please provide the shipper with your reusable fabric box to receive your order by return mail."
That fabric better be made from locally-sourced, organic hemp. Or maybe cat fur.
To play devil's advocate, the pandemic has increased the number of cardboard boxes by an couple orders of magnitude. People didn't go to stores to buy stuff, they shopped online. So they get delivered a box, and inside that box is the packaging for what you bought.
Now don't get me wrong, Amazon Prime gets me free shipping for a year, so I save a huuuge amount of money and get free movies as a bonus. So I order most everything online. But the boxes are still a pain. Have to break them all down and hope the recycle bin is not full.
Gee, what a bitch. Life is so hard.
Just for the record, the shipping is not free; it is pre-paid.
And half the volume of the box is filled with plastic packing material. either bubble wrap or larger air filled bladders.
Nope.
In NJ, groceries are delivered in resuable plastic bags (in my case, with a $1.50 fee). There is no mechanism to return the bags, so you get more bags every time.
Save them for when the Biden economy has you living on the street.
"The new ban lumps both types of totes together,"
They are both single use. They belong together. Reduce, reuse and recycle are the environmentalists' watch words. This case is covered under the 'reuse' watchword.
Without plastic bags, one should expect to step in more dog poop in New Jersey.
Yep. More people will have to have Service Animals to cope without plastic.
But no plastic bags to pick up the poop.
Meh. Immigrants will do the work that plastic bags don't want to.
At $28 per hour super-equity minimum wage.
Buy real plastic bags to pick up dog shit. Grocery store bags are thin, torn, and are great for picking up dog shit—if you love getting dog shit all over your hands.
How fucking stupid do you have to be to use a torn bag to pick up dog shit?
Well, it would seem there's the level of stupid where you use torn bags as an argument against the material without acknowledging that making paper bags as thin and light would make them both more prone to tearing as well as permeable to the point that paper that thin can't even be used as bags.
Then there's the level of stupid where you pick up dog poop with a torn plastic bag and get shit on your hands (but wash your hands quietly and keep it to yourself).
Then there's the lower level of stupid where you post publicly on the internet that you use torn bags, of any type, to pick up dog poop and get shit on your hands.
Then there's the even lower level of stupid where you post about it repeatedly.
<- Yes Way, Ted is somewhere in here. ->
Then there's the level of stupid where you roll in shit of any type for fun and tell everyone you love it.
Maybe Ted identifies as a dog.
I get paper because I use them as my kitchen garbage can.
Well, you don't live in NJ and still have a choice.
How dare you throw out "garbage". If you really cared about the planet you would ingest or recycle every last bit of stuff.
Ditto. But here in my socialist state they cost ten cents. The fucking bastards. And during the pandemic you couldn't get any at all.
Gross
Dry garbage. Anything wet goes down the disposal.
I get plastic because I use them to line my garbage cans.
I do that in the bathroom.
I find both kinds very reusable. But here in KKKalifornia, they banned the plastic kind and put a fucking tax on the paper kind.
The paper kind are great. I use them as trashbags. Very convenient. So I ran out of them quickly as I'm not spending ten cents per bag. Then my supply of plastic bags slowly got used up. I had saved them up for years.
Now I have to go BUY trashbags on a regular basis. Used to be one box of Hefty lasted me a very long time, as I didn't need the big ass trash bags (I'm single, what the fuck do I need a twenty five gallon trashbag for?).
Congrats KKKalifornia, you're not forcing me to buy plastic bags. Was that your intent?
p.s. I'm still dumping food waste down the garbage disposal instead of using the fucked up compost pail.
California legislators are forbidden constitutionally from speculating on the possible unintended consequences of the laws they pass.
p.s. I'm still dumping food waste down the garbage disposal instead of using the fucked up compost pail.
Expect a visit from the water use police.
If you go to the right stores they will give you free "reusable" plastic bags. You can chose to throw those away when you get home.
If you can do what I did when I lived in CA. Buy new reusable bags on every shopping trip and throw then away just like they were disposable plastic. Cost me maybe $300 more a year, but it was worth it.
Such a rebel.
Has Jersey criminalized the use of plastic garbage bags bought in supermarkets for carrying groceries out of them?
Don't give them any ideas.
can't cover your schoolbooks and draw all over them with plastic bags
Democrats and other environmental extremists cannot find their way out of a paper or a plastic bag.
I guess I'm kind of an old-school conservative--
Waste not, want not...
Don't take more stuff than you can use...
So I kinda' think that single use bags are wasteful, and I avoid using them whenever possible. I keep cloth grocery bags in my truck and on my bicycle.
For you they're wasteful. For others they're not.
Old-school conservative--
Shoot straight, speak the truth...
So, I kinda think someone that uses the phrase "single use bags" isn't really an old-school conservative.
^this^
A single use shopping bag is less than 1/100th the weight of your reusable grocery bags, so depending on the number of uses you get out of them, you may not be reducing waste.
"Single use" bags are also reused as small trash bags and dog waste bags, something people now have to buy separate bags for.
The reusable bags are canvas duffel bags. I've been using them for more than 20 years.
If you take 50 shopping trips a year with the bags, that's 1000 trips. It's still not clear that you come out ahead in terms of waste, since your bags may well take 1000x more resources to create than the thin PE bags. And I very much hope you wash them pretty frequently, since you're transporting food in them.
Also, duffle bags on a bicycle? You must be kidding.
In May, New Jersey became the first state to ban single-use bags made from plastic or paper in large grocery stores.
Grocery stores, Home Depot/Lowes, department stores, drug stores...pretty much everywhere.
Drug stores (CVS, Walgreens) are using paper bags which seems to violate the law.
My Rite-Aid uses the paper script bags, but nothing for the retail part of the store.
Not the case in the stores I mentioned. They have paper for retail items other than prescriptions.
Paper bags might use slightly more energy to make, but they are made out of something that is renewable, and paper degrades much quicker than plastic
Cats also like paper bags.
The report added that paper bags were "significantly worse" than plastic bags "for human toxicity and terrestrial ecotoxicity due to the effect of paper production."
And disposable plastic bags are mostly made from corn starch, and degrade just fine.
"And disposable plastic bags are mostly made from corn starch, and degrade just fine."
Curious as to your source that bags are made from corn starch.
Anecdotal, but I did find this real quickly.
While using corn starch is possible (it could also be used to make bottles) I don't think such bags are in very wide spread use.
Most disposable plastic bags are made from polyethylene (petroleum, natural gas).
Even so-called "biodegradable bags" decompose very slowly compared to paper, and don't seem to decompose at all in landfills. Furthermore, they contaminate plastic recycling operations.
If they are plastic (polyethylene) they are not biodegradable in nature. Maybe we'll get lucky and some microbe will evolve to digest plastic.
You are both incorrect. Or maybe better, partially incorrect.
Most disposable plastic bags are composites containing both some polyethylene and some corn starch. Why? Because the polyethylene provides strength and stretchiness while the corn starch reduces costs.
Biodegradable bags do decompose more slowly than paper and they do require sunlight to break down. So, yes, they will fail to decompose in landfills. So, however, does paper. There are many cases of newspapers being dug up a century later and not only is the paper still intact, print is still legible.
Microbes that digest plastic (and other hydrocarbons) already exist. They are common in the ocean. They are the reason for the "missing plastic" in all the attempts to explain why the mass of plastic actually measured in the oceans is so much smaller than the anti-plastic advocates and researchers say it should be based on waste calculations.
Paper bags are cellulose, which is a natural and functional component of soil; they don't need to "degrade" any further.
I doubt that "most" disposable plastic bags are composites, either in the US or in Europe. Most of the ones I have seen are clearly pure polyethylene.
You've never actually composted anything, have you.
Yes, but paper bags naturally degrade in soil, can be composted, they don't fly away, and they don't get stuck inside animals. To many people, those are more important issues than the effluent from a paper processing plant or carbon emissions, and that's why we get these laws.
- Paper bags naturally degrade in soil. Plastic bags naturally degrade in sunlight.
- Paper bags can be composted. Not really and certainly not at scale. Too much carbon and not enough nitrogen. Also the wrong shape. It would be like trying to make your compost heap of nothing but dried leaves.
- They don't fly away. A valid criticism.
- They don't get stuck inside animals. A theoretically valid criticism but one that doesn't actually happen much in the real world. Animals (including humans) eat all kinds of indigestible things. With few exceptions, they either pass through the digestive system or get thrown back up. Only those that lead to an intestinal blockage are a problem - and the number of those attributable to plastic bags is small.
"Paper bags can be composted. Not really and certainly not at scale. Too much carbon and not enough nitrogen. "
Paper bags and in fact any paper will compost easily. There is simply not the volume that would justify a composting facility dedicated to just paper bags.
" It would be like trying to make your compost heap of nothing but dried leaves.
Proper composting of any organic material requires moisture.
I spent many years inspecting commercial composting facilities
in which leaves only moistened by rain and snow (along with paper collection bags) were reduced to compost in approximately 10 months.
Yes, but our waste usually isn't exposed to sunlight because we don't have the area for that.
Paper bags are usually mixed in with other organic waste, and waste is usually shredded.
I don't particularly like paper bags myself and use disposable plastic bags when I can. But paper does have advantages as a material.
More importantly, paper doesn't actually need to be composted before releasing it into nature, since cellulose is a natural part of soil, not very different from leaf litter, as you observe yourself.
Sorry not following
"Plastic bags naturally degrade in sunlight."
"Yes, but our waste usually isn't exposed to sunlight because we don't have the area for that."
Landfills take 600 acres. n 1990, there were 6,326 active landfills in the United States. As of 2018, that number is now down to 1,269. If you’re wondering what happened to all the ones that closed, the answer might surprise you.
Depending on the type of waste accepted at a landfill, there are several possible uses once they’ve been capped. There might even be an old landfill in your neighborhood — just disguised as something else.
Plus they are capped
Depending on what type of landfill it is, there are two different cap systems.
For Hazardous Waste:
Synthetic material covers the exposed hazardous waste. The material is topped with two feet of compacted clay.
A drainage layer safely gets rid of any contaminated liquids as the trash decomposes.
A layer of dirt or topsoil completes the cap system.
For General Trash:
A liner system sits at the bottom of the landfill.
Layers of compacted clay and synthetic material cover the whole site. Topsoil is added over the clay.
Basically, while no-one wants to live near one. The size of all the landfills combined are less than 1% of the US area
Plastic bags were banned around here on the claim that they wound up on the beach and in the ocean. Funny thing though, while I would see them around shopping malls and highways, there were seldom any as you got to the beachy areas. So, how are they miraculously transported from 5 miles off of the water to in the water without ever being in between?
Storm drains.
Also wind. You see plastic bags around shopping malls and highways because those are places with lots of natural eddies where wind-borne trash tends to settle. You don't see them (much) at the beach because the winds are strong and comparatively uniform meaning the bags will fly over the beach and either settle into the ocean (and sink out of view) or get carried back inland until you find another eddy - maybe at one of those shopping malls or highways.
That said, the "ocean is filling up with plastic" was a ridiculous excuse. Between the intense sun and wave action, plastic degrades relatively quickly into microparticles - which are then food for certain plankton.
so, they should be flying over my house?
'cause, I don't see them
ever
that was for rossami @ 6:58
Paper bags or plastic bags both have their own pros and cons. Plastic bags are cheaper and easier to carry but on the same time it is hard to degrade. While paper bags are costly, and manufacturing is also little difficult & the raw material is taken from the trees.
Thanks for sharing this article.
Regards,
Faze Three
Why not ban taking away anything that won’t fit in your pockets, fixes climate change and the obesity epidemic at the same time!
I remember the switch from paper bags to plastic bags happening when I was a little kid. Back then the plastic bags were supposedly "better for the environment" because supposedly the world's forests were being cut down to make the paper bags. Years later I learned that the wood used to make paper was grown on farms specifically for that purpose, at which point I realized that the justification I'd been told for the switch had been a lie. At this point, I'm just going to assume that the "better for the environment" justification being used to switch back is still a lie covering up whatever the real reason is.
Margarine, butter, margarine, butter etc... ice age, global warming, I don't care anymore.
I'm surprised Baily didn't touch on the "food tote bags". Those things also have issues. A major one is almost no-body washes them which can cause illness
+1