Most Americans Support Student Debt Forgiveness Until They Think About It
New poll shows majority of Americans oppose student loan forgiveness once they become aware of the obvious tradeoffs involved, like higher inflation and rising tuition prices.

If the inevitable tradeoffs are ignored, most people would be in favor of getting a free lunch.
Unfortunately, there ain't no such thing.
A new poll shows that President Joe Biden's decision to forgive $10,000 in student loan debt for many individuals who borrowed money from the federal government to pay for college (and $20,000 for those with need-based Pell Grants) is broadly popular—as long as people don't think about the scheme's knock-on effects. Once the potential consequences—including higher inflation and rising college tuition costs, are taken into account—support for student debt forgiveness craters, even among self-identified Democrats.
"Support for cancelling federal student loan debt plummets when Americans consider its trade-offs," writes Emily Ekins, director of polling for the libertarian Cato Institute, which published polling data on student debt forgiveness Thursday. The Cato/YouGov survey includes more than 2,300 Americans and was conducted over six days in mid-August, just prior to the White House's August 24 announcement of the student loan forgiveness plan.
The results are striking. While 64 percent of respondents (and 88 percent of Democrats) back student loan forgiveness of $10,000 for individuals earning up to $150,000 annually, those totals fall significantly once potential consequences are introduced.

If student loan forgiveness means colleges will raise their prices, for example, support for the policy plummets to 25 percent overall (and 31 percent from Democrats).
But that's probably the most obvious and inevitable consequence of forgiving student debt—and, more accurately, of Biden's decision to change how student loan repayment plans will work in the future.
The new loan-repayment structure caps payments as a percentage of a borrower's income, meaning that the amount borrowed above the cap becomes effectively meaningless. Colleges will be able to raise tuition to astronomical levels while telling students not to worry about the amount because what they owe in repayment will be capped.
As Reason's Robby Soave explained earlier this week, the White House has succeeded only in creating even stronger incentives for everyone involved in higher education to fleece students and taxpayers. Even lefty policy wonks like Matt Bruenig have quickly identified the flaws in this idea, which will likely force further government interventions in the near future.
What if student loan forgiveness also caused more employers to require a college degree, even for jobs that someone could do without spending four years studying various unrelated topics? When presented with that possibility, only 29 percent of respondents (and 36 percent of Democrats) in the Cato/YouGov poll say they would support Biden's policy. Too bad, because that's a likely outcome, too.
And what if most of the benefits of student debt forgiveness accrued to wealthier Americans? Then support for the policy falls to 32 percent overall and 44 percent among Democrats.
That's inevitable too because the White House decided to make student loan forgiveness available to individuals earning up to $125,000 and couples earning up to $250,000.
Because the final version of Biden's plan included larger amounts of debt cancellation for Pell Grant holders and the ongoing repayment caps, the distribution of benefits is not quite as skewed as it was when the Penn Wharton Budget Model analyzed the initial version of the proposal. Even so, a revised analysis shows that 62 percent of the benefits will flow to people in the upper 60 percent of incomes (those earning over $50,100 this year). Rather than being a leg up for the working class, this policy remains mostly a giveaway to upwardly mobile middle- and upper-middle-class Americans with college degrees.
The popularity, or lack thereof, of a policy is not indicative of its worthiness, of course. But it is hard to imagine the Biden administration pursuing a policy this legally and economically fraught if not for student debt relief's popularity among the Democratic base.
That popularity, however, might be something of a mirage. "These data show that Americans don't like the costs that many experts believe are associated with federal student loan forgiveness," says Ekins.
None of this is surprising. More than three years ago, Quinnipiac identified a similar trend in a poll about student debt relief. In that survey, a majority supported the idea of giving $50,000 in debt relief to individuals from households making less than $250,000 annually, but a majority opposed the idea when told that higher taxes would be necessary to pay for it.
It's not clear that there will be a direct tax increase necessary to pay for Biden's student debt relief. Instead, the government will simply not collect some of the future revenue it expected to, which will add to the long-term budget deficit.
Even so, there's no such thing as a free lunch for American student loan borrowers. Democrats might find that there's no such thing as a free lunch at the polls, either.
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Sure Biden is using the FBI to jail political opponents and is illegally spending a trillion or more tax dollars to pay off the debts of Democratic voters, but it is not like he is sending mean tweets or eating his steak well done or something. Get your priorities straight man.
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Once the potential consequences—including higher inflation and rising college tuition costs, are taken into account—support for student debt forgiveness craters, even among self-identified Democrats.
So basically, if people pull their heads out of their ass for a split second they notice it's a terrible idea but it 'still feels good' so it might be ok.
Beyond the obvious evil of taxing poor people and future generations to pay the current generation's rich's debt, it is also unjust to current and future students. Forgiving loans only makes the problem of the high cost of college worse. So, everyone who has debts now gets them forgiven but people going to college today and in the future are still stuck having to take on debt that won't be forgiven. The plan is pure evil.
It's not that much of a boon to people who are the recipients of the relief, either.
I only have a few thousand dollars left on my student loans, so I would stand to 'benefit' from the forgiveness. But the cost is such that between the inflation and higher taxes that will result, it's a net loser for me in the long term.
For sure. I paid off my student loans, but I didn't have many of them because I chose to go to schools that were cheap and turned down the opportunity to go to more respected but higher priced ones. Forget my loans, can I have the more prestigious degree I gave up getting because I foolishly thought I was responsible for paying my debts?
But the cost is such that between the inflation and higher taxes that will result, it's a net loser for me in the long term.
Holy shit, someone broke the code!
Free money ain't free.
You are assuming that it goes away in the future. When has a handout ever really vanished.
I can imagine that if the Democrats have a majority and the Presidency that it will be written into law that the government will pay 10k of your debt after graduation or a certain time period. They will do something to keep the votes.
It does screw us who paid off the load or didn't go to college.
"Most Americans Like Free Shit, but Don't Like Paying for Things Described as 'Free Shit'"
Once more unto the breach!
You get more of what you subsidize; ask the British about cobras in India, or the French about rats in Indochina.
When you subsidize student loans and science, you get more students and scientists, all of them marginal, unable to get a STEM or even history, English lit, or any other degree requiring hard work.
Thus marginal fields like gender fluidentity, and formerly scientific fields like climate science dumbed down to suit marginal scientists.
As I say above, the worst part of this is that it pays off the debts without doing anything to solve the problem that created the debts in the first place. If this were part of some overall plan to ensure that college is affordable and future students are never going to be saddled with this kind of debt, it would still be immoral, wrong, and unlikely to work, but at least it wouldn't be insane, which is what this is.
I agree with you that we need a comprehensive effort to reign in cost but how do we get to that? I think we need to address the problem at all levels the student, the institution and the government. The student needs to be ready for post secondary education and have a plan for that education. Institutions need to focus on teaching and using their resources efficiently. Government needs to ensure that people who truly need funding assistance can get that money. We need post-secondary education oriented to a return of value to the students.
And these loans ought to be dischargable in bankruptcy after ten years or something. There is a problem with having so many young people stuck in debt they will never payoff but can't get rid of in bankruptcy. The cost of solving that problem should be born by the colleges because they have been the primary beneficiaries of students taking all of this debt. Harvard sits on a $54 billion endowment that isn't taxed a cent. Fuck that. Tax all of these damned endowments like the hedge funds they are and then use that money to solve some of the debt problem.
Also, making the colleges bear the cost of guaranteeing the loans would take a whole lot of the fun out of endlessly raising tuition. That wouldn't alone solve the problem but it would be a start. Do that and then restrict these loans to people getting degrees that offer some kind of value in the market place and are only given to students who can show they have a reasonable chance of succeeding and you would start to solve the problem.
When government is the primary source of the problems of skyrocketing tuition costs, what possibly makes you think that more government can be a viable solution?
Government does not "need to ensure" funding assistance. The market is perfectly capable of doing that.
The reason that the government is in the market in the first place is because the private market is unlikely to provide loans without guarantees. These are really unsecured loans and are different from a car or home mortgage. If you noticed in my comment, I suggest the government help those truly in need of loan assistance. I would also add that the help doesn't need to be loans alone, but things like work study programs or in tax free savings like current 529 programs. Better yet what about a 529 program where less-wealthy parents can get a government match for saving for their kid's education?
I suggest the government help those truly in need of loan assistance
Why? So that they too can go to college, study underwater basket weaving for nine years, graduate into a 29.5 hours a week career at Walmart? Where are the unemployed or underemployed med school grads with hundreds of thousands in student loans they can't pay off? Find me a man with a comp sci degree and an AWS cert who is working shifts at Starbucks.
Who exactly is "truly in need of loan assistance"? College grads who can't find jobs lucrative enough to pay off their debt have exactly one person to blame: themselves. It's not the economy. It's them. Don't make me subsidize someone else's poor choices.
Well, you answered the question. If the loans are risky, they should be borne by the beneficiaries. If the kid's don't have a way to secure them, the universities should. I can't buy anything else on credit without either offering personal guarantees or the loan being secured by collateral. The concept of everyone going to college is great, but maybe the applicants and degrees should be scrutinized before giving everyone all the money they need.
I think what you are saying makes sense. Consider a business applying for start-up loan or revolving credit. The bank would want business plan to evaluate. I would be good to have something similar for student loans. In this way the bank could point out to the student that field they are entering and the money they are borrowing don't match. That it will likely take them 30 years to pay off the loan.
Especially if the interest rates reflected the true likelihood of default.
This could be said of most things the government does or spend money on. What we have in this country is not discussions on policies but rather framing and spin. How do I put my idea in the best light and show the fewest consequences. Student loans are no different.
You voted for this
Disaffected, antisocial culture war casualties find comfort in push-polling, a respite from the reality-based world in which their stale, ugly right-wing thinking is still getting stomped into irrelevance in the settled-but-not-quite-over culture war.
Carry on, clinger misfits. So far as your obsolete, discredited thinking could carry anyone in modern, improving America.
Seriously - what is with this campaign against college debt relief? I can understand, at least, the constant parade of misinformation about the Inflation Reduction Act - Reason's richie-rich backers want to manipulate its readers into opposing enforcement of the tax laws and just paying taxes. But student debt? What's the angle?
This post is just ridiculously transparent misinformation. "When we (Cato) lie about what student loan forgiveness will do, in a push poll, we found the numbers we wanted, which we are now publishing in a non-reputable source that will cite our 'findings' uncritically." One wonders whether the Reason editors are stupid, incompetent, or just vicious liars.
Lie about what student loan forgiveness will do
Identify the lie. And show your work.
Suck a dick.
I'll take that as a confession that you're completely incapable of backing up your ridiculous assertion because you're a moron.
No, you can take it as an invitation to suck a dick. I don't owe you a detailed explanation for how I know what Cato/Reason are doing here is extremely disingenuous.
We know that you are full of shit, and any "explanation" from you is totally worthless.
Fuck off and die, lefty asswipe.
So, you can't actually identify the lie. Good to know.
Hey, whiny barista, get back to work. The drive-through line is backing up. You can talk about French literature with your co-workers on break.
Well, I wouldn't want to leave the fat incels here without a punching bag.
The angle is, why do I, successful high school almost-dropout have to pay for your French literature degree while you 'find yourself' backpacking across Europe?
I suppose we might just as easily ask why I, as an in fact successfully-employed college graduate who paid off his public and private loans long ago and currently enjoys a fat salary half of which is soaked up by taxes, should have to pay for educating your kids, providing medical care and housing to your elderly parents, paving your highways and streets, connecting your home to broadband, etc., etc.
You never graduated from college and I doubt you paid off your loans. Just stop lying. You are a typical loser dirtbag leftist. Fuck off.
should have to pay for educating your kids, providing medical care and housing to your elderly parents, paving your highways and streets, connecting your home to broadband, etc., etc.
Because I too have to pay for those things whether I use them or not.
Taking out $100,000 in student loans to get a French Literature degree. That was entirely your choice, with benefits which were funneled (ostensibly, or so you believed before you dumped another $30,000 into nursing school so you could, you know, earn a fucking living) directly to you.
I, unlike Biden and his nervous supporters don't try to spin my daughter's international studies degree into benefitting my neighbor. Because I'm just not that shallow.
The vacuous snobbery is spot on, but you'd think someone with a degree in French Literature would be better at humble-bragging.
Sorry, meant to quote "as an in fact successfully-employed college graduate". Lots of us were successfully employed without even being HS graduates.
Well, technically I... "graduated" high school, due to a certain amount of finesse and a teacher or two looking the other way.
I suppose we might just as easily ask why [any of us] should have to pay for educating your kids, providing medical care and housing to your elderly parents, paving your highways and streets, connecting your home to broadband, etc., etc.
Yes. I concur. Let's ask why we need to pay for any of those things together. I would much rather pay for them myself.
Because you're a lying pile of stupid lefty shit, that's why.
I mean, let's just ignore the fact that Cato is actually right about the consequences for a moment, and you're claim they're lying is fundamentally unbelievable.
Why should society pay for the voluntarily assumed debt obligations of students who on average are making more than the average taxpayer? And those debt obligations allowed them to get an education that allowed them to get those higher paying jobs.
Student debt forgiveness for households at or below the poverty line? You might convince me. But how about we just allow student loan debts to be dischargeable in bankruptcy instead, like any other debt?
There isn't even a real student debt crisis. The median student loan debt is ~$20k, easily payable on a reasonable timeframe. Many government jobs (including teachers) already allow loan forgiveness after a number of years worked. The people with astronomical debt generally hold graduate degrees and have high paying jobs - they can afford to pay off that debt, and don't need a handout. And wealth transfers to the working wealthy is just obscene.
No one's going to forgive a mortgage or a small business loan. Why is student loan debt so special?
Crude I should have read yours and Sevo's comments before I replied. Said what I was trying to say. I was just amazed at the stupidity of Simon.
"Seriously - what is with this campaign against college debt relief?.."
Seriously, are you this fucking stupid?
Ooops - looks at handle, sees Simon P. Oh, yes. Far, far more stupid than this small example.
Fuck off and die, lefty shit.
Wow...just wow.
1) who made them take the loans?
2) Who chose the school? You can get a 2 year at a community college than go get a 4
3) Who chose their degree?
I paid mine off and my daughters. I worked at school, saved, and sacrificed. My neighbor took vacations. brought fancy cars, and pay the min but went to a name school.
Your telling me it's my responsibility to pay for his decisions? Basically, you don't think the students have any responsibility because they are poor victims.
Blame the school fine but no-one made you go there. How do you explain it
to the non-college folks that they have to pay for someone's art degree?
Wait, what about mortgage people? You should pay their mortgage too.
I'm find if they want to make it discharged in bankruptcy court. But this is just a bailout to schools so they can keep adding admins and raising prices. If students took out smaller loans, schools would lower prices in the future.
Only a complete idiot thinks this is a good idea. This is why the upcoming generation is going to have so many issues. Everything tells them they are a victim and nothing is their fault.
Here’s the problem. It’s not really the “one time” $10K. It’s the other changes to repayment terms.
The forgiveness also calls for payments to be capped at 5% of discretionary income, with a higher amount of income counted as non-discretionary, and discharge of whatever balance is left after 20 years of payments (10 if you are in a nonprofit or government job). And with current loan limits you can borrow up to $186K between undergrad and grad school.
Assume a starting salary of $60K after graduation and 3% raises every year. With that 5% of discretionary income cap, you would pay a total of $56K back over 20 years for up to $186K of loans. If you go into nonprofit or government it’s more like $20K over 10 years and the government eats the rest.
Colleges can do this math and since they’re not idiots they will raise tuition and fees and encourage students to borrow to the max amount and make sure they understand that they’ll have to pay back less than 1/3 the amount they borrowed.
We’re talking about up to $130K in loans discharged per student, forever. And there are 3 million new high school grads every year. So up to $390 billion. And that assumes low inflation, no increase in maximum loan amounts, no change to further reduce the amount of income counted as discretionary, etc.
THAT’s the problem.
The chart explains it all. Without the negative information, it's overwhelmingly supported by Dems and a slight majority of independents, probably swung by unaffiliated progs.
Holy shit, can we revise all our ballots to look like this? Imagine, "would you vote for candidate X if doing so will primarily benefit rich people, raise taxes, cause riots, etc."
Boehm - Adults back in charge right?
Be honest Eric, it's all worth it because progressive sensibilities are no longer enraged by mean tweets? No cost too high, right?
Unfortunately, there ain't no such thing…
Unfortunately, the Deadly Pandemic taught millions upon millions of Americans that you can fuck off at home, no need to work, and everything will be taken care off by big daddy gov. This message was sent for two years! That’s a geological time span for the modern ADHD voter, and the lesson has sunk in.
College Debt forgiveness? $300 billion? Wait and see what the Dems have planned to get votes for the fucking presidential election coming up.
I call bullshit on a poll that says 64% of America supports loan forgiveness for student loans whether they know the details or not. No way.
"The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center estimates that 57% of U.S. households paid no federal income taxes for 2021, ..."
way
Ha... paying for someone else's college debt is the same as paying for roads and public school. What a card.
“Most Americans don’t understand how any think works but keep having opinions and voting anyway.”
You can’t buy votes without spending money on idiots.
If there is a "means test" or ceiling of taxable income that must be met in order to qualify for the loans forgiveness, how is this a handout to the rich. (unless they are cheating on their tax)
Maybe the threshold of qualifying income should be lower ? $125,000 is too high ; start at $100,000 with low percentage of forgiveness with it sliding to higher percentage ending up at 100% at the official HHS poverty level income of the sate they live in. If there is to be a "dole" just make it bare minimum and fair.
Hand out to the rich because college educated people, in general, make more than non-college people. Also, more well off people or middle class and above good to college.
Think of it this way - all plumbers, mechanics, service people, etc (Not disparing) - are now paying for someone's college education if they like it or not.
That's what it means by rich. It's not really the $125,000 cut off. It's more that people who take the loans have better pay later and can pay more in the beginning.
I paid off my college loan. Guess I shouldn't have.
The poll didn’t ask if the respondents believed any of those consequences would occur.
Generally speaking, the more we humans make, all the more we want — nay, need — to make next time. And when in corporate-CEO form, we typically become far, far greedier. ...
Really, there must be a point at which the status quo — where already large corporate profits are maintained or increased while many people are denied even basic shelter/income — can/will end up hurting big business’s own monetary interests. I can imagine that a healthy, strong and large consumer base — and not just very wealthy consumers — are needed. Or could it be that, generally speaking, the unlimited profit objective/nature is somehow irresistible, including the willingness to simultaneously allow an already squeezed consumer base to continue so — or even squeezed further?
When it comes to unhindered capitalism, I can see corporate CEOs shrugging their shoulders and defensively saying that their job is to protect shareholders’ bottom-line interests. The shareholders meanwhile shrug their shoulders while defensively stating that they just collect the dividends and that the CEOs are the ones to make the moral and/or ethical decisions.
Human existence may still be basically analogous to a cafeteria lineup consisting of diversely societally represented people, all adamantly arguing over which identifiable person should be at the front and, conversely, at the back of the line. Many of them further fight over to whom amongst them should go the last piece of quality pie and how much they should have to pay for it.
"...Human existence may still be basically analogous to a cafeteria lineup consisting of diversely societally represented people, all adamantly arguing over which identifiable person should be at the front and, conversely, at the back of the line. Many of them further fight over to whom amongst them should go the last piece of quality pie and how much they should have to pay for it..."
Ignorant piece of shit, thinking in zero-sum terms.
Fuck off and die, lefty shit.
“….many people are denied even basic shelter/income…..”
Sigh. I’m not even gonna say the line, but this line of thinking epitomizes it.
Grow up frank.
This article, as are so many Libertarian writings, is based on false premises. The forgiveness of a small amount of most peoples' educational loans is not going to result in massive tuition hikes or increased inflation. With college enrollments dropping nationwide, there is already significant pressure on them to limit their increases. Many have not increased tuition for years. Any increases are going to be limited to those needed to maintain their services.
My daughter will be a beneficiary of this program, but she won't be running out and spending any of the money. She will still have to make loan payments...just not quite as big. She is a teacher, which means that she lives on a modest salary. Despite being frugal and careful in her spending, she has outstanding bills. Any money left over from her loan payments will just go to "luxuries" like her home and utility payments...or vital school supplies, which the taxpayers are too cheap to pay for.
I paid back my own loans, and delayed my retirement so I could get her through her first four years of college without debt. I support this loan forgiveness one hundred percent. I'd much rather see my tax dollars go to support this effort than to support the reckless, irresponsible and totally unnecessary tax cut given to the rich by the corrupt and incompetent Trump Administration--or our bloated and out of control "defense" budget. If we really want to rein in inflation, we can repeal the 2017 tax cut and reduce our defense spending, thus decreasing the inflationary deficit spending that both parties in Congress keep reauthorizing every year.
"This article, as are so many Libertarian writings, is based on false premises. The forgiveness of a small amount of most peoples' educational loans is not going to result in massive tuition hikes or increased inflation..."
You're full of shit, parasite.
Mike. Let's stop all the tangents.
Near-infinitely available college loans are part and parcel of the escalation of the costs of education. They have had almost no price-response on demand for decades, which has led to limited supply and unlimited demand, casually known as the "Tickle Me Elmo" effect. The student loan crisis has been causing a shift away from this as capitalism is taking over. People have realized the costs of higher education and are shifting behavior to mitigate expenses (remote school, community college, and just skipping it).
Eliminating the expectation that you have to pay back the loans will push many people to not care about costs again. This is elementary school economics
"This is elementary school economics"
Mike took gym instead, and so did his daughter; they vote D.
Most Americans support free lunches, too.
Because the one thing that Americans are notorious for, is thinking?
If Americans thought, you Trump/Murdoch Virus suicide bombers in White ISIS whining about mask & vaccine mandates (while spending the past few decades saying nothing about that tyrannical clothing mandate while outside) would be treated like the suicide bombers that you are.
Oh, before I forget, if Americans thought, those of you supporting the failed Conservative socioeconomic policies, like trickle-down/supply-side Satanomics, aka Conmanitalism, would be stung up from lampposts with piano wire.
After 2 years under the Biden regime and Democrats how could anyone question the intellect of lefties that voted for this? Things are so much better now and the recession really won't be that bad. When oil shortages for heating start over the winter people can know they made the right choice. Voting emotionally instead of intellectually and not considering consequences such as this bill so many support is always the better idea.
What meds did you forget to take today?
BTW - who was burning cities and federal buildings? oh no people are a terrorist because they went into the Capitol
I really couldn't take it seriously after the line "Hugely popular". I haven't met a republicans' or a democrat that thinks it's a good idea.
All those gender study students with a gun to their head to take a loan. Poor poor students.
Way to punish people who saved and paid their way. Nice work Dems.
Because most Americans are educated by the exact same public school systems?
Democrats support massive spending and giveaways without thinking 5 seconds down the road about unintended consequences?
Imagine my fucking surprise
It doesn't hurt that EVERY SINGLE news feed that I saw outside of conservative rags and this site didn't mention any of the tradeoffs unless it was some dismissive "critics (who we all know are critical only because they are partisans, amiright?) say it may increase inflation!"
The Orange County Register is generally a middle of the road paper in a conservative (trending blue) county. For example, pretty much every day, there are front page articles about "Service Members Honored" and "Local Church Minister Retires". They aren't the NYT. But even they flogged this story as a good thing. Every article was headlined with stuff like, "Up to 40 Million People Expect Relief!" and "Forgiveness gives 'Freedom' to people struggling to pay bills".
This is the problem with capitalism and libertarian values in general: hidden costs are hidden and always difficult to see.
Not totally. I do think there is a way to fix this problem. I just don't think any plan these lunatics come up with would do it.
Stopping government student loan guarantees is necessary but not sufficient. You also have to ban government science subsidies, or you'll still have all those marginal woke scientists clamoring for students to indoctrinate.
The thing that gets me is that you can explain things like this to many people. And they seem to understand. Yet the next day they still have the same damn opinion of it. I think most people are highly motivated to go along with those they see as the "right kind of people". Reason and argument doesn't help much in many cases.