Local Law Prevented an Alabama Town From Firing Two Cops. So They Dissolved the Police Department Instead.
When one police officer's racist text messages surfaced online earlier this month, local officials found that city law prevented the outright firing of the officers involved.
When officials in one Alabama town realized local law prevented them from firing two police officers, they dissolved their entire police department instead.
Last Thursday, the small town of Vincent—a hamlet outside Birmingham, Alabama, with a population of just under 2,000—decided to abolish its police department. The department, which employed three officers in total, was disbanded following a June incident that uncovered the exchange of racist text messages sent by at least one Vincent police officer.
In the messages, one officer, who remains unidentified by Vincent officials, asked an unidentified respondent "What do y'all call a pregnant slave?" to which the respondent replied with a string of question marks. "BOGO Buy one, get one free" texted the officer in response.
The messages, which were reported by Al.com on August 2, caused outrage throughout the small community. According to CNN, following the release of the messages, the City Council suspended the police chief and assistant police chief without pay, and the third officer resigned.
However, the City Council was unable to simply fire the officers. According to Vincent city law, police officers cannot be fired unless they receive two formal complaints and a verbal warning. With little other recourse, the Vincent City Council passed a resolution which temporarily dissolved the town's small police department.
This incident isn't the first time a small town has dissolved its police department for bad behavior. In particular, several small towns found to be engaging in illegal "speed trap" schemes have voted to disband their police departments.
In 2014, one Florida town, "only avoided the wrath of the state legislature by disbanding its police force, de-annexing the strip of highway, and accepting the resignation of every public official who held office when the [speed-trap] scandal broke," wrote Reason's CJ Ciaramella. The particularly small town of Wilmer, Alabama, even disincorporated itself entirely after coming under fire for creating a speed trap.
Further, this story is the latest in a long string of incidents where cops have lost their jobs for bigoted text messages. While speech by government officials is generally protected by the First Amendment, it has a few important carve-outs. Speech by government employees is only protected when it is a matter of public concern, like an allegation of corruption, and when the public employee's speech interests are more important than the employer's ability to maintain order.
"There's no bright line here," Popehat's Ken White notes. "But in general, an employee's speech is most likely to be protected if it's on the employee's own time, on the employee's own platform or a platform not run by the employer, involves policy issues rather than personal attacks on people in the government workplace, and the employer can't show evidence of disruption of order or function."
While it is unclear whether the officer's text messages were sent while off-duty using their personal phones, Vincent officials regardless had interest in punishing the officers. In 2021, at least 85 criminal cases were thrown out after at least a dozen of Torrance, California, police officers were found to have exchanged racist, antisemitic, and homophobic text messages.
Even if public officials hadn't been barred by a city statute from firing the two officers, it seems the First Amendment would have provided little protection for the officers' racially charged jokes. In fact, their messages made them a legal liability.
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It was a funny joke, shared in a private setting.
Do you really think having the inalienable right to free speech means being persecuted for what you legally say, even in private? What then would happen without the constitutional first amendment?
Even if they had shared that joke at work, 1a protects them from persecution. Schedule them for some sensitivity training maybe.
I wonder how much anti white racism a white cop experiences in a small Alabama town.
It's a decent stupid joke, sure isn't racist. Works with any race.
Interesting how your and their brains so equate slave and race. Historically ignorant self-confessions.
In the history of man, only black people have been slaves and it's the US that invented slavery to use against black people. This is known history, try and keep up man.
I may be wrong, but I doubt this particular dude was deeply familiar with the Arab slave trade, the treatment of the Slavs, or the slave system under Athenian and Roman law.
A more economical explanation would be that he was invoking Alabama's history of enslaving black people.
I may be wrong, but I doubt this particular dude was deeply familiar with the Arab slave trade, the treatment of the Slavs, or the slave system under Athenian and Roman law.
^What you say when you're likely dumber than the Alabama cop who could probably name at least once in history when the Jews were enslaved.
I think technically that wasn't chattel slavery of the sort where you buy and sell individual slaves. As I understand it the Egyptian state imposed forced labor on the Jews, but anyone who bought a slave for his own use would be stealing from the Pharaoh.
Dude, Rome was also in the bible.
Most Romans weren't Jewish, so it's irrelevant to the point mad.casual was making about Jews enslaved in Egypt.
It's fair to say they were overreacting to the cop's Truly Tasteless Joke, but I would suggest that his reference to slavery meant the olde Southern version.
Can't I believe both things at the same time?
Actually, it's not irrelevant. Slavery in Egypt was akin to slavery in Rome. Most slaves weren't bought and sold and there was no larger slave trade economy, but people absolutely were bought and sold to one another.
Sure, you can believe it and I don't even disagree with the two clauses, but being factually wrong and reading motives out of tea leaves isn't how the law is supposed to work either.
Sigh...you're really stretching things.
You said I was dumber than someone who just knew his Bible regarding the slavery of the Jews. If you just go by the Bible, it doesn't look like the buying-and-selling, chattel version of slavery:
"Now there arose a new king over Egypt, who did not know Joseph. And he said to his people, “Look, the people of the children of Israel are more and mightier than we; come, let us deal shrewdly with them, lest they multiply, and it happen, in the event of war, that they also join our enemies and fight against us, and so go up out of the land.” Therefore they set taskmasters over them to afflict them with their burdens. And they built for Pharaoh supply cities, Pithom and Raamses. But the more they afflicted them, the more they multiplied and grew. And they were in dread of the children of Israel. So the Egyptians made the children of Israel serve with rigor. And they made their lives bitter with hard bondage—in mortar, in brick, and in all manner of service in the field. All their service in which they made them serve was with rigor." (Exodus 1:8-14, NKJV)
"then you shall say to your son: 'We were slaves of Pharaoh in Egypt, and the Lord brought us out of Egypt with a mighty hand..." (Deut. 6:21, NKJV)
"being factually wrong"
Wrong from the standpoint of someone who is laboring mightily to move the goalposts. Look at your original assertion and compare it to the irrelevant stuff you're throwing in to say I'm wrong.
"isn't how the law is supposed to work"
Then it's just as well I wasn't writing a treatise of legal philosophy.
I'm somehow getting the idea that this comment section is just a bit toxic.
You're right. A small-town cop in Alabama definitely wasn't referring to black people with that joke.
Correct. He was referring to slaves. No black people are slaves today. And in the past, most black people weren't slaves either.
A time to be born, a time to die; a time to sow a time to reap; a time for peace, a time for war; a time to dance a time to mourn; a time to dox the officer who wrote that text including using 3 Billboards outside Ebbing Missouri, lest he get hired by another law enforcement agency.
Are we supposed to conclude the joke is racist solely because it references slavery? This seems wrong. To conclude a joke, or any statement, is racist it needs to at least suggest as an underlying principle some deficiency or failure generalized to people by race.
Well I guess the joke harkens back a couple of hundred years to the antebellum south. I get that people don't like to be reminded but the joke is about the economics involved not the race of those involved. Looks like this was a stupid attempt at humor in a private conversation. You either believe in free speech or you don't. That includes dumass cops.
in a private conversation
Decent point. He didn't broadcast the joke on social media, nor did, it seems, one of his fellow cops out him. This would otherwise be a case of the people kicking in the door with a warrant for a murder weapon, finding a baggie with faint traces of green leaves, and shutting the whole place down. It just happens to be a tax-payer funded building or organization, and I don't mean a University.
When you're living off the taxpayers, there's no such thing as a "private conversation".
Keep telling yourself that, neo-Nazi Trump traitor. You have sold your country to the highest bidder, because you're racist scum too stupid to see the consequences of worshipping Hitler.
Beating people to death for failure to obey is all honky dory, but questionable text messages?
20 felons voting in FL is a stupid thing for DeSantis to hold a press conference over but
threeone copsin AL sending obliquely racist jokes deserves more attention because it's not like there's anything else more newsworthy going on.1st Amendment, no exceptions... no matter how stupid.
Free=Free.
No "carve-outs" for particularly heinous subjects*, or especially offensive subjects. Mostly because in that case, bad-faith actors can alter, expand or obfuscate the scope of that subject.
As has happened with "racism". Which cannot be done by black people, no matter what their actions, especially against white people, but including Jews and Asians. Apparently. Also, the definition of what constitutes a "racist offense" can, and has been, expanded, shrunk or made amorphous according to the needs of said bad-faith actors.
And Reason buys into this? What a sad decline.
*-okay, pedophilia. And even then, there's nuance and complexity. Not all instances where the word is used are the same. We make the same mistake as with "racism" (and "offensive" and "traumatic" and "toxic" etc., etc): We confuse our terminology with the thing being described. This does not make for good thinking.