The 'Motherfucker' Who Enraged Beto O'Rourke Laughed at His Claims About the Rifles He Wants To Confiscate
The Texas gubernatorial candidate's interpretation reflects his assumption that opponents of "assault weapon" bans don't care about murdered schoolchildren.

"Hell, yes, we're going to take your AR-15," Beto O'Rourke famously declared during a 2019 Democratic presidential debate. That line, which immediately appeared on T-shirts sold by the former Texas congressman's campaign, was designed to energize anti-gun Democrats. But it simultaneously gave ammunition to Republicans by contradicting a long history of assurances from Democratic politicians (including O'Rourke) that their support for gun control did not mean they were bent on confiscating firearms from law-abiding Americans.
O'Rourke, who is now running against Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, still thinks that demonizing "assault weapons"—and, by implication, the millions of Americans who own guns that fall into that arbitrary, politically defined category—is a smart electoral strategy. In the wake of the May 24 massacre at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, O'Rourke has been arguing that Abbott has blood on his hands because he opposes "assault weapon" bans. If only the governor had supported such legislation, O'Rourke argues, the 19 students and two teachers murdered in Uvalde would still be alive.
The main problem with that argument is that "assault weapon" bans, because they are based on features that do not affect a rifle's capacity to kill people, leave would-be mass murderers with plenty of equally (or more) lethal alternatives. President Joe Biden has acknowledged that fact, even while contradictorily arguing that the 1994 federal ban, which expired in 2004, reduced mass-shooting deaths. But O'Rourke either does not understand this point or is determined to obscure it, as illustrated by his profane, self-righteous rebuke of an Abbott supporter who laughed at his claims about AR-15s during a campaign event in Mineral Wells this week.
Press coverage of that incident asserted that the heckler, one of several Abbott supporters at the event, was laughing about the Uvalde massacre, which is how O'Rourke interpreted it. "It may be funny to you, motherfucker, but it's not funny to me, OK?" he said, drawing wild cheers from his supporters. But it is clear from video of the encounter that the laughter was provoked by O'Rourke's claim that the AR-15 was "originally designed for use on the battlefields in Vietnam to penetrate an enemy soldier's helmet at 500 feet and knock him down dead."
The implication was that the AR-15, compared to other rifles that legislators have not classified as "assault weapons," is especially powerful and therefore especially deadly. But that is plainly not true.
"In World War I," notes hunting columnist Steve Sorensen in the Jamestown Gazette, "our soldiers carried the .30 Gov't rifle (now called the .30-06 Springfield) which sent a 150 grain bullet toward the enemy at roughly 2,900 feet per second, and produced about 2,800 foot-pounds of muzzle energy. Today's modern American military uses the 5.56 NATO cartridge (the civilian equal is the .223). Its 55 grain bullet (about a third the weight of the .30-06 bullet) exits the barrel at roughly 3,200 feet per second (a little faster than the .30-06), producing less than half the energy, a mere 1,300 foot-pounds. So anyone shooting an AR-15 (or one of its cloned siblings) is firing a pipsqueak bullet compared to what our military used a century ago."
People who want to ban AR-15-style rifles, Sorensen says, "seem oblivious to the fact that most deer hunters use much more powerful guns." This video, which compares .223 rounds to .30-06 rounds by showing what happens when both are fired at watermelons, vividly illustrates that point.
Sorensen notes that "some jurisdictions even outlaw the .223 for deer, not because it's too deadly, but because it's not deadly enough." He adds that "the AR-15 with its small caliber bullet" nevertheless "has many applications for hunters. Some predator hunters use them and, in certain states that permit hunters to use semi-automatic rifles, they are used for small deer, coyotes, jackrabbits, feral hogs and other varmints."
Contrary to what O'Rourke seems to think, the definition of "assault weapon" is not based on destructive capability. With or without the features that legislators typically target (things like folding or adjustable stocks, pistol grips, barrel shrouds, and threaded barrels), a rifle fires the same ammunition at the same rate with the same muzzle velocity.
The "motherfucker" who enraged O'Rourke may have been rude, but O'Rourke—who heckled Abbott during a May 25 press conference about the Uvalde mass shooting, blaming the governor for failing to stop the attack by banning "assault weapons"—is hardly a model of decorum himself. And the laughing Abbott supporter had a point: He laughed because O'Rourke did not know what he was talking about.
O'Rourke's interpretation, that the guy laughed because he thought there was something amusing about the murder of schoolchildren, is totally implausible in context. But it is of a piece with O'Rourke's assumption that critics of "assault weapon" bans are, at best, cruelly indifferent to such horrifying crimes. The idea that they might honestly disagree with him about the merits of the policy he is pushing never seems to enter his mind.
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Sorry Beta,
No matter how tough you try to talk, and say you listen to rage against the machine, no one will actually take you seriously, or think you are tough, or cool.
You have little bitch energy. You will always be a little bitch. You will repeat the talking points the radical left tells you and beg them for a seat at the table for your crime of being a cis white male. And you will thank them profusely for the scraps they throw at you.
Maybe you can be given a lowly cabinet position after Texas rejects you again
“Hell yeah! We’re gonna take away your property without your consent and compensate you in terms that WE think are acceptable (if we happen to compensate you at all that is). So we’re communists, but somehow we still think we can get elected in Texas! Hell yeah!”
Reaching deep into peoples private spaces without their consent and then rationalizing that with the good you do them and everyone else kinda sounds cuomosexual if you ask me.
But "little bitch energy" (and the entire little bitch persona) is what passes for a dedicated progressive male these days. Beto probably inspires, and maybe even frightens, the man-bun and strong womyn crowd.
As a pretty masculine specimen I can tell you that liberal panties get SURPRISINGLY wet in the rare event of a real male entering their tiny orbits. They try everything to deny nature. But it doesn’t work. Lost idiots.
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Someone should beat his ass at every event where he starts that tough talk. Regular beatings would do a total pussy like Beta some good. Just like it would benefit Pedo Jeffy, Buttplug, etc..
Probably would take him back to his school daze of wedgies & bullies taking his lunch money from him every day. He'd make a great prison bitch.
Much of the rank-and-file are under the mistaken impression that the AR-15 is the weappn of choice for gangs when they do drive-bys against rival gangbangers, or even against people wearing the wrong color clothes in the wrong 'hood.
The leadership and spokesholes want to ban AR-15s because they feel it will hurt White male conservatives!
Sheesh. No gangster could afford an AR-15. Those things are nearly $2K. Criminals use the cheapest weapons they can get because they are poor and might have to get rid of the gun, and they almost always use pistols because they are cheap and easy to hide.
You can buy an AR 15 for around $400; that of course is the cheapest, but they still work.
Criminals don't use them because they are not concealable.
Why deal with paying legal prices (and filing legal paperwork) for a semi-auto, when a selective-fire AK is half that cost on the Black Market?
Kind of a straw man argument. Who says that? My impression is that the AR-15 is the weapon of choice for psycho mass shooters. Is that wrong?
It does seem to be gaining favor in that class of lunatics, but they still use handguns more than anything.
According to The Violence Project, which has analyzed mass shootings that have occurred since 1966, 80% of all mass shooters used at least one handgun during their crime. A semiautomatic assault weapon was used by 28% of shooters, according to the Violence Project.
Crap, that 2nd paragraph is a quote and not my own words.
There's no question that AR-15s are the weapon of choice among murderers because ... they "look" so murderous.
Still, if they disappeared, murderers would switch to other types of guns that might not look as murderous, but they murder just as well, or even better. Banning AR-15s wouldn't be worth the trouble, and would disarm a lot of people who just have them for defense.
Maybe for some. But for many people, especially those who dislike and fear guns, the AR-15 has become a mental archetype--the picture that pops into their minds when they think "gun", especially "bad gun". They then project the AR-15 into every bad situation. I am sure many of these people "know" that AR-15s are used in most crimes, including most shootings, and so feel rational about pushing for a ban.
Just like back in the late 80's and 90's everything was all about AK's.
Beto is the gift that keeps giving. Any sane political party would have dumped Beto long ago or more likely never took him seriously in the first place. Since the Democratic Party has gone nuts and basically caters exclusively to the tastes of aging single, white women, Beto continues to have a political career regardless of how many elections he loses.
He is what I assume David Hogg will grow up to be. Same energy
That is a pretty good guess.
Unlike Beto, I assume Hogg will eventually transition.
Beto looks like an old lesbian in that picture. Are you sure Beto hasn't transitioned?
We should start calling him Betx.
Underrated comment.
I'm pretty sure Hogg and Greta are the same person.
Transition to what? Gender neutral?
I don't have hope for Hogg. He was put in the spotlight and wanted to stay there
Just shit tons more faggy.
Robert Francis is certainly a gift to Greg Abbott, who might otherwise actually face consequences for being all-in on COVID tyranny for a year.
Yes he is. And Abbott's worst sin was destroying the power grid in return for "green energy" bribes. Abbott is a piece of shit. His only saving grace is that Beto manages to be even worse.
So much this^
ya
But Democracy! is supposed to give us great leadership. Instead we get Giant Douche or Turd Sandwich over and over.
"If you vote, you have no right to complain. If you elect stupid and dishonest people who get into office and screw everything up, you caused the problem, you voted them in, You are responsible for what they have done..... YOU have no right to complain." George Carlin.
How was he not primaries??
Because there are no other prominent politicians who have challenged him. People might grumble, but overall Abbot retains decent popularity.
the alternatives were worse lol.
People who want to ban AR-15-style rifles, Sorensen says, "seem oblivious to the fact that most deer hunters use much more powerful guns."
This is true. According to Reason's chief firearms expert Joe Friday, AR-15s make deer explode, while higher caliber rifles do not.
with experts like Joe Friday, and Joe "blow the lungs out of the body" Biden in the democratic party, its pretty clear why they cant have a rational discussion about guns.
Yup, and mass shooters only use AR-15s; you can ask my brother, who went to VA Tech in the mid 2000s, if you don't believe that.
If you are murdered by something other than an AR-15, you are not dead dead.
It is as of you could be brought back to life if we gather all seven dragon balls and summon ShenRon!
You're just mostly dead.
If you die from COVID-AR15, you're really really dead.
Lol
You live on forever in the Democrat voter registration rolls.
Only Mostly Dead
Cho used a Glock 19 and and Walther .22; at the time both were limited to 10 round magazines.
the *main* problem with the argument is it's source.
The Texas gubernatorial candidate's interpretation reflects his assumption that opponents of "assault weapon" bans don't care about murdered schoolchildren.
the assumption that opponents of open borders don't care about brown people.
The assumption that opponents of race-based rules designed to increase diversity, inclusion and equity are white supremacist nazis.
The assumption that opponents of so-called "gender-affirming" surgical intervention into adolescents make you a phobe...
And so on.
I could not agree more!!
The left are experts at turning an out right lie into a plausibility and then stating it long enough and loud enough until the young or weak minded start to believe it! The rare occurrence is the norm, and our major left wing media outlets are complicit in this falsehood!
My niece, born and raised in densely populated progressive parts of Virginia right outside of D.C. - and educated in "fine" liberal arts schools and universities - with straight face once asked me if it was safe for her to bring her boyfriend to visit us. Puzzled - I looked at her - so she explained, "Well, you see he's Hispanic." It took me a couple seconds to realize exactly what she was asking, and more importantly why! She had been indoctrinated to believe that outside of the city there were mostly uneducated backwoods hicks and that KKK racists and white supremacist's were in the majority.
Of course if you grow up listening to rhetoric demonizing republicans as racists and you are looking to visit a "red state" - you would think that - she was asking an honest and sincere question! I smiled and told her as long as she stayed out of the cities - she'd be fine!
Beto O'Rourke
Oh sorry, I almost forgot...
WHO?!!
A political follower who thinks he's a leader.
we can all step back and appreciate his skill with a Vision Gator.
You know, that clown from Texas.
43?
Humorous country song with a verse about 43. Countrier Than Thou
lol
With a state that big, there was bound to be a few. I guess I should have been more specific.
The Juan Guiado of Texas
Why shouldn’t Beta insult the pissants, it’s never hurt Brandon to do so:
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/12/05/politics/joe-biden-damn-liar-exchange/index.html
As a general rule I would suggest that laughing anytime the speaker is discussing a school shooting is a mistake.
I don't think Beto has a chance of winning, but I do think he is making points. People are fed up with gun violence and you either lead on it or you don't. I would also note that Florida lead by another conservative does have a ban on the purchase of AR15s by persons under 21. Are people less free under DeSantis than under Abbot? I don't think most people feel that way.
People are fed up with violence. They want good police departments and DAs who will actually prosecute criminals. The Democrats answer to that is to disarm the public and continue to refuse to refuse to provide any police protection for the now disarmed public.
No police protection and the government disarms me making it impossible for me to defend myself to make up for it. Who wouldn't support that?
Anybody using the death of children to advance their cause should be roundly mocked every time they open their cocksucker.
I look forward to your contributions to the next abortion thread.
so you think fetuses (fetusi?) are children.
The people advancing the pro-life cause do.
dude! SO want to hear *your* reasons why not. 1-2-3 go!
If you followed the thread the OP asserted "using the death of children to advance their cause" The first respondent appeared to indicate that the OP might use "children' in his argument as to why he did or did not have an opinion on abortion.
Sensing that Chin had a pro-abortion stance and was salivating over the opportunity to throw back at the OP Chin's imagined idea of the OP's stance on abortion I then entered the conversation, after overhearing the first two's discussion and challenged Chin on my belief that Chin would argue that a fetus is not a child and therefore of little interest to others.
My opinion of abortion is that any human should be able to contract with any other willing person at any time and over any thing.
Birthing persons only!
Should have said politicians, but you know what, go ahead and mock anyone in the next abortion thread.
I mean it’s not like there’s some inherent difference between using dead kids to curb a natural right and using them to curb, checks notes, people wanting to kill kids.
Democrats, if they aren’t killing kids, they’re fucking them.
So why is there no political will to address inner city violence?
Because the people who are affected by it are poor and mostly black and no one cares what they think. And a whole lot of white leftists see political utility in urban violence and are happy to encourage it as long as the victims are mostly poor and black. White leftists are "enlightened" like that. They are not like those racist deplorables who want something done about all criminal violence.
Did you miss 100 years of New Deal and Great Society?
And 10 years of BLM and defund the police?
If people are fed up with gun violence and actually want to do something about it then they need to actually get serious about the problems of urban crime. Almost all murders with guns are criminals killing other criminals. But no one wants to do that honestly because you get called racist when you do. And it's actually a difficult problem with many dimensions and contemporary politics isn't set up to deal with that sort of thing.
I could support raising the legal age for all firearms purchase to 21 - in exchange for national concealed carry reciprocity, and raising the voting age to 21 also!
Include Driving license, age of consent, and the draft.
you either lead on it or you don't
aim small, hit small and in all cases use the appropriate lead on moving targets. Don't forget windage on long shots.
Beto spouted this stupidity and lost his senate run.
Beto spouted this stupidity and lost his presidential run.
Now he thinks spouting this stupidity will make him the governor of Texas?
I think not.
What points does Beto make? His feelings and ignorance about guns are not valid points.
“The main problem with that argument is that "assault weapon" bans…” Are unconstitutional and immoral to boot.
You concede too much ground when you say that it’s because the bans wouldn’t be effective as it implies that the bans would be ok if they WERE effective.
That's Reason's game.
Advocate progressivism without saying you advocate progressivism...
O'Rourke's claim without evidence that the AR-15 was "originally designed for use on the battlefields in Vietnam to penetrate an enemy soldier's helmet at 500 feet and knock him down dead."
Got to remember the "claim without evidence", right? The AR-15 was originally designed in the '50's - before Vietnam - but was never adopted by the military, and, like most modern military firearms, was designed to wound rather than kill. Beta O'Rourke is a clown, he should be laughed at.
Everything that faggot says is nonsensical shit. It’s too bad his daddy got him out of that felony charge when he was DUI.
The AR-15 was originally designed in the '50's - before Vietnam - but was never adopted by the military, and, like most modern military firearms, was designed to wound rather than kill.
You're right that Beto's a moron, the 5.56 wasn't designed to kill, and only penetrates helmets because helmets aren't designed to withstand rifle fire, you're wrong about the last clause. The .30-06, 7.62 (maybe), and, now, .277 Fury are/were designed to kill. If you step through the evolution, the distinction is pretty clear that the .30-06 and .277 are designed almost exclusively to neutralize targets while the 5.56 and, to a much lesser degree, the 7.62 were designed to be portable and suppressive. The only time/place the 5.56 was found to be more deadly was in the hands of smaller, more poorly trained S. Vietnamese soldiers who could spray the 5.56 more accurately than they could any variant of the 7.62.
For reference:
Browning > Kalashnikov > Luger > Meisser > Garand > Stoner
Did anyone, reporters for example, think to ask the heckler why he laughed? Or maybe the heckler can enlighten us on social media.
Had someone heckled Abbott, he/she would get four or five paragraphs in the paper or 30 seconds on tv to make his case.
Your questions presume the reporters cared to present the heckler's motivations accurately.
Yeah, this is assuming it wasn't some staged stunt so that Bobby could look tough saying "motherfucker" at a lightly-attended campaign event with about 30 of his supporters sitting there.
Since cussing is the hip new thing, someone needs to call Swalwell a spy-fucking squirt of monkey shit on national television
If I ever attended a Swallwell event and got the chance, I would ask him how many times his Chinese whore spy pegged his asshole.
The mainstream media libels someone for calling out Beto O'Rourke for being an ignoramus about a bloody shirt issue for the Left.
Say it isn't so.
But Alex Jones is the real bad guy
J-school 101.
But it simultaneously gave ammunition to Republicans by contradicting a long history of assurances from Democratic politicians (including O'Rourke) that their support for gun control did not mean they were bent on confiscating firearms from law-abiding Americans.
He proves himself a liar, but the important fact is that Reps now have ammunition as if the lie itself is unimportant? Only the partisan use matters?
I believe the term you are looking for is "Republicans Pounce". Whenever Republicans do something wrong, reason covers that. Whenever a Democrat does something wrong, the story is how "Republicans Pounced" on it for partisan advantage.
ENB's favorite anti-Republican tool.
I thought her favorite tool was something else, and required several D cell batteries.
O'Rourke's claim that the AR-15 was "originally designed for use on the battlefields in Vietnam to penetrate an enemy soldier's helmet at 500 feet and knock him down dead."
The AR-15 program predates American involvement in Vietnam and any army training its infantry to aim for headshots will fail. The statement is so profoundly ignorant only a progressive would be unafraid to make it.
He saw it in a Tour of Duty episode.
While he was drunk at a bar shortly before driving home. The sound was off, but he thought he got the gist of it.
The statement is so profoundly ignorant only a progressive would be unafraid to make it.
Rather like the way they demand racial segregation on the pretext of opposing racism.
-jcr
"The SUV was originally designed for use in Christmas parades to plow through 500 feet of children and grandmas and knock them down dead." - Beto O' Rorke
Since history, logic, good taste, and good faith are out the window, why not?
I heard the clip of him calling the guy out. Made me want to kick the dirt eating, cow poem writing, punks ass. Beto is a little bitch.
Most politicians have know idea what they are talking about 90% of the time - this is no different!
Of course when most of the crowd doesn't know any better either, they applaud the person spewing falsehoods, and ridicule those who actually do know a little about the subject.
What a mixed up world...
In this case leftist politicians, and the idiots who adore them, are usually proud to be ignorant when it comes to talking about guns.
Everybody knows any kind of fully semiautomatic boomstick assault weapon can turn the victim inside out with the force of the impact of a high-capacity bullet fired from an illegal assault magazine clip!
you forgot to say "high powered" 😉
- a "high powered" fully semiautomatic boomstick assault weapon ...
Yes, thank you. I also missed 'military style'. My leftist jargon needs work.
Beto seems like kind of a d bag performance artist without much skill in creating policy. Gun violence is a huge problem in the US, but saying you're going to confiscate guns seems silly to me. Describe the scenario under which that seems possible. Even if every member of the US military returned stateside and went door to door to search for and confiscate guns, I can't imagine it going smoothly or being successful. Many people won't be willing to turn them in and would fight to the death over it. "Hell yes, we're going to take your AR-15." Ok, describe how you're going to do it without sounding like a fucking imbecile and I'll hand it over.
Gun violence is a huge problem in the US, but saying you're going to confiscate guns seems silly to me.
It's a fine position if you're running for office in New York or Illinois. Doing it in Texas, even with the shitlib cities, is a career-ending move.
Remember Abortion Barbie, Wendy Davis, and how she was supposedly the rising young star that would turn Texas blue? She's on a school board somewhere in Fort Worth now because she spent more time appealing to the national press than to Texans.
D bag AND D list. He’s the total broken package. Whenever I hear The Damned’s song ‘Disco Man’ it makes me think of Beta.
Lefturds like this don't want to solve problems, they want to milk them for attention and power. Mass shootings require unarmed victims, and Democrats are doing all they can to disarm us.
-jcr
Funny how these champions of gun control never seem to get upset when there are, say, 30 shootings in Chicago over a single weekend. Maybe because the victims are only shot one at a time. Not enough media attention if it's not a mass murder.
We care about those too. Those guns come from neighboring states with lax gun laws, which we'd like to fix.
If you struggle to understand why 20 children being turned to pulp on a periodic basis might be emotionally resonant, then congratulations on your autism/psychopathy. That must be fun for you.
The muscles pulling the triggers come from feral youth from dysfunctional "families." That's something we'd like to fix.
How are you going to use the government to control how parents raise children?
And isn't that both more inefficient and less freedom-oriented than just restricting access to weapons designed for mass murder?
This major pansy over here wants the US to raise its adults as if they were children, by taking away billions (trillions?) in property from millions and millions of law abiding citizens. But in the same paragraph, this major pansy argues that the state shouldn’t tell parents how to raise their children.
Carry on, pansy. If youre unlucky, Americans might finally discover what their 2nd Amendment rights were really meant for.
“ weapons designed for mass murder”
More than 24 million law-abiding Americans disagree with your pansy fallacy.
Also, “fixing social problems and the general violence problem of the US” is unequal to “telling Americans how to raise their children”.
Science isn't optional. Just because you like guns doesn't mean it's good to give them to everyone. More guns means more people get shot. It's actually incredibly easy to understand.
More guns means more people get shot.
Wrong. More guns means people have the means to defend themselves and other innocent parties when some nutjob lefturd flips out and starts shooting.
-jcr
Even accepting your unproven premise, Tony, that would also mean more cars means more car accidents. So just ban all cars to have zero accidents. No? Why not? Is there maybe some use to their presence? 150+ million gun owners and 24+ million AR owners in the US also think there is some use to these devices.
Leftists have no clue of cost benefit ratios. Neither with cars nor with guns. They don’t care about common use. And they will trample on “minorities” if the latter don’t fit their shitty ideology.
Why don’t you just stop spewing unpopular, disproved bullshit and leave tens and hundreds of millions of lawful gun owners alone? Those who disprove your mass murder paranoia every single day through their peaceful common use patterns? You have lost the culture war on this issue and you need to really start accepting your defeat, right now. Really, 150+ million gun owners disprove you through their mere existence. YOU LOST. GET OVER IT.
And what means “science isn’t optional”?! YOUR science?! Without alternatives? No questions asked either huh? Isnt optional… Fuck, you’re really an especially pure specimen of a subtle fascist boy.
Oh, and science sure seems optional if youre working for the CDC.
(which is what a calmer, less flamboyant commenter might have said in place of me just ranting. Well, to my defense, I just said it.)
Yeah in not to
Die
Since cops are issued these "weapons designed for mass murder" just who are they planning to mass murder? It is said stupidity should hurt. I suspect your tolerance for pain is quite high.
Black people?
Laughable leftist whining and stomping and moaning in defeat. Even black cringe at your pathetic victim card playing, I can tell you that.
Edit: Blacks cringe. But you know that already.
Pits more about getting rid of the people, like you, that create the policies that destroy families. Which is where a lot of these killers are coming from.
And do you have a cite for your bullshit statement?
No, pretty much all the killers are Republicans.
Not that you have a problem with mass murder.
pretty much all the killers are Republicans.
Stupid lie from a stupid liar.
-jcr
Yea well that just really is a plain lie, and everyone here can see it. Do you feel dominant because of the recent mar a lago raid or something? Because you don’t seem to think that shit will bite you in the back massively.
Nope. All the killers are democrats or people who support them. As usual, you can’t back up a fucking thing you say.
Oh, and you might want to dial back the time you spend on all fours at your local bathhouse getting gangfucked in the ass until this monkeypox thing has run it’s course. But you won’t, will you? Stupid faggot.
Those guns come from neighboring states with lax gun laws, which we'd like to fix.
Sure is weird that the places with lax gun laws aren't suffering from the same degree of gun violence as NYC, Chicago, Baltimore, L.A., etc. Weekends in Indianapolis are a lot less deadly than weekends in those other cities despite Indiana being a state with 'lax' gun laws. Why is that?
If you cared about those kids, you wouldn't be trying to disarm the public. Go look up how Israel solved the school shooting problem, you lying maggot.
-jcr
If the guns come from other states, why isn't the crime rate high in those states too?
How many multiple victim (mass) shootings were committed with AR-15 rifles? Likely none.
So, if that's the case, taking every AR-15 wouldn't prevent a single mass shooting in Chicago, right?
Likely none.
So, I was going to disagree with you slightly about this and back up my assertions about the likelihood by citing Elisjsha Dicken, Kyle Rittenhouse, and the Highland Park shooting. Just seemed impossible that the number is 'likely zero'. However, considering it further, I think you're not just absolutely right, you are very pointedly right. As in, we (Chicago) are at something like 1800 shootings and 400 shooting deaths to date *this year* and on par for our 5th 400+ shooting-death-years in the last decade and we have yet to hear about a single AR-15. You'd think, in 1800 shootings, if even 1% or even just 1 were with an AR-15, we'd have heard about it.
But you don't care about murdered schoolchildren. You're the buttmonkeys of the arms industry. You don't get in the business of selling arms, or oil or tobacco for that matter, without being pretty high on the sociopathy spectrum. There's a reason these are the major funders of the Republican party. They have a receptive audience. Anti-human greed and malice. True bad guys.
If there's one thing I've learned from my liberal arts degree, it's how to diagnose deeply rooted psychiatric issues based on bizarre interests and preferences. Human beings are (supposed to) think and act essentially the same. Any deviation that's difficult to relate to is probably the manifestation of sociopathy or some pervasive moral failure.
I don't find it all that difficult to relate to people. As I was explaining, the key is understanding the phenomenon of self-sorting.
Go sort yourself out of all free societies, please.
“ Human beings are (supposed to) think and act essentially the same.”
Are you Bill-NM? There is some kinda Poe’s Law genius around here lately, and he does manage to make a number of comically naïve, but leftist-authentic points. I sense some OBL energy here to be honest. You aren’t genuine, right? Please tell me you don’t really exist?!
Earnest concern huh? Well you kinda gave that away quite easily though, had i been awake enough. Good job though man! Tony didn’t get it! But then, what does he get?
If you don’t want children to be shot, why do you advocate for the policies that cause these shootings!
What policy "causes" school shootings?
When given the chance to hire 87,000 new federal workers, the Biden administration decided to go "all-in" with 87,000 IRS agents, no new border patrol agents, no school security guards, nope, just IRS agents to go after people that struggle to understand the tax code (like Rep Charlie Rangel). Interesting fact, over half of the IRS audits last year were for filers earning less than $75K/yr - why weren't they focused on the over $400K folks?
What policy "causes" school shootings?
Victim disarmament.
-jcr
And all the democrat policies that manufacture the shooters. Which they do through their stranglehold on the government education system. Emasculating young boys, forcing them to bottle up their natural masculinity and aggression. Then drugging them if they act out in any way. Most of them get through it, but the ones with markers for sociopathy and psychopathy sometimes evolve into mass murderers.
Which is all Tony’s fault. He and his fellow travelers who make it happen.
But you don't care about murdered schoolchildren.
Says the scumbag who freaks out at the idea of defending them.
-jcr
Doesn't matter: The Anointed are never wrong...
Where does Bobby get his personal income given that he hasn't held office since 2019?
Rich parents
It's possible to be a rich kid and not turn out to be a worthless piece of shit, but a lot of Democrat politician larvae failed the test.
-jcr
Being a democrat is all about being a scumbag. They’re vocal about how they have no values or morality. They even ridicule republicans for having them.
I was asked about his source of income, not the cause of his problems.
The new thing in the Democrat party seems to be dressing down and trying to convince the voters that you are lower-income/blue collar, just like them - clearest example is shadow senate candidate fetterman in PA, his parents supported him into his 40s, now he walks around in gym shorts and a 3XL hoodie when he deigns to be seen.
If Beto ever gets elected to so much as dog catcher, I'll consider that ironclad proof that our elections are rigged.
There were Beto signs all over our Austin neighborhood, 2 elections ago, and only ONE LP sign. Much later I watched the pathetic wretch get beat by superstitious, girl-bullying, looter Trumpanzee Ted Cruz who at least knows something about energy. The margin was tiny, showing that even non-libertarians despise both creeps. I'd bet neither understands that ABM and Salt disarmament hoodwinks violate 2A.
Uhm, I’m fascinated by the schizoid unpopularity you have navigated yourself into. I wont make fun of you right now, but damn are your perspectives forced, dude.
I can admit without regrets though that I appreciate your perspectives tons more than Joe Fuckface or other partisan plants. Not that my opinion matters or that you would care, but just saying.
Beta is an excitable boy, but a boy nonetheless. He knows nothing of weaponry and it's evident every time he opens his mouth. I probably would have laughed too. The AR-15 is a civilian version of the M-16 and it can't "penetrate an enemy soldier's helmet at 500 feet and knock him down dead". This is akin to Biden's claim that a 9mm can blow your lungs out of your body.
When people who actually have familiarity with guns hear this nonsense, it's not surprising to hear them laugh. Apparently ignorance is no reason to keep your political mouth shut. Apparently everyone needs to know you're an idiot.
They're not convincing anyone except their own ignorant base, white liberal female voters. The ones who don't know which end the bullet comes out.
I'm unlikely to ever run into this snotty little cunt in person, but if I do, I will make it as unpleasant for him as possible.
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ, motherfucker.
-jcr
I find it really funny that Beto used the epithet "motherfucker" so soon after John Stewart. Almost like he saw a roadmap, properly vetted and tested of course.
Certainly plays well to his constituents.
Just remember, the people who want to ban all semi-automatic pistols and rifles are the same people who idolize gay men whose idea of "marital love" is ejaculating into another man's colon.
That's what we're dealing with here.
Another asshole who has never heard of PinkPistols.org
Fuck Off, Homophobe!
The whole episode sounds like political theater to me. Beto got a lot of free publicity from it.
Shouldn't it be Betx?
It should be Little Bitch.
“policy he is pushing never seems to enter his mind.”
To be fair entering his brain would pretty difficult. First you have identified it then get really small so you have room to enter it.
Anytime an Irishman takes a nickname in the hopes people will think he is Hispanic, you might want to vote for someone else. I mean that is almost as sad as claiming your ancestors are Cherokee.
Where I live Irish-Hispanic and Irish-Italian couples are common because they're all Catholic.
Except that's not exactly what he said. I don't really care if Nicolle 'Snooki' LaValle is actually German (Shnucki) or not, good rule of thumb not to vote for people going by the nickname Schnucki or Snooki. You shouldn't vote for Pete Buttigieg either but if he went by the name Peetie publicly, that should raise additional alarm bells.
But, after having typed all that, I realize to whom I'm speaking and acknowledge that you probably would vote for Snooki if she ran on the right ticket.
Beet-o is a spoiled ignorant career politician, and so are his followers. Is it just me or do the lame stream politicians and their adherents resemble religious cults?
Mr. O'Rourke may or may not be an idiot. The sure thing is that individuals who believe, without verification, what he says, are ignorant. The root of "ignorant" is "to ignore". A person who is ignorant, ignores the evidence that Mr. O'Rourke is speaking falsehoods. The notion of ignorance applies when anyone takes the word of a politician, regardless of party affiliation, in the absence of doing further research.
Beto knows why the guy is laughing. His aim was to create a viral moment to make gun owners look bad.
Perhaps the "cocksucker" O'Roark ought to fuck off and die.
O'Rourke is an idiot who should be ignored. Maybe he can succeed Buttigieg as the Secretary of Transportation in the Biden Administration. He seems to be ignorant enough for them.
I have yet to see a gun in a conservative's hands or someone who was legally of sound mind ever kill anyone. But psychopaths and sociopaths like Beto those are the ones who kill people.
To be fair, it's difficult to not laugh at beta. Except the fact that someone like that can be taken seriously, makes you want to cry instead. We need to be reminded how close Florida came to "electing" a drug addict mentally deficient pervert instead of DeSantis.
Someone who has no accomplishments to his name, never did anything useful, created a business or showed anything but a need for attention and an over
woops, a need for attention and an over indulgent view of himself.
In short a narcissist and ignorant person who believes he is some sort of savior.
He has done nothing but live off others. Probably never held a job or ever had to punch a time card.
Totally self indulgent and a complete failure.
Hey Betx, what weapons are used to kill in Chicago or Baltimore or Philly or New York on the weekends. You don't care about this black children at all huh?