Rand Paul: Anthony Fauci's Testimony on Gain-of-Function Research Was 'an Out-and-Out Lie'
"This research was a dangerous type of research that should have been reviewed," said Paul. "It wasn't."

Sen. Rand Paul (R–Ky.) accused White House coronavirus adviser Anthony Fauci of misleading the public about the U.S. government's funding of gain-of-function research.
"When Dr. Fauci said that this research was reviewed and found to be safe by experts, that was also a lie," said Paul in an interview on Thursday.
Paul made these comments during a conversation on Rising, the news show I co-host for The Hill. His remarks followed a hearing organized by the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Subcommittee on Emerging Threats to explore the question of whether government-funded research could be responsible for inadvertently creating the COVID-19 pandemic.
"I think the key was that all three scientists that we brought in—and these were esteemed scientists that have been interested in this issue for some time—all three of the scientists agree that the research … was gain-of-function research, that this research was a dangerous type of research that should have been reviewed by the pandemic committee that reviews dangerous research, and that it wasn't," said Paul. "What Dr. Fauci said, directly in committee, that the [National Institutes of Health] does not fund gain-of-function [research] in Wuhan and never has is an out-and-out lie."
Paul advised that the U.S. government should restrict research being done on deadly viruses to make them potentially more infectious. Watch the full interview below:
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OK Robby, Rand Paul says ON YOUR SHOW that Fauci "out and out lied" and you report this as "misleading the public"?!
Are you having trouble reading this afternoon? The opening sentence says "Rand Paul ... accused ... Anthony Fauci of misleading the public". Yes, "out and out lied" is a synonym for "misleading the public" in this context.
More a euphemism, but yea.
Too bad lying isn’t a crime.
Too bad being a nazi douchebag
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not in Robby's business.
As we know from Fauci's willingness to be interviewed by Robby, they view him as no threat -- likely because he's not a threat.
Robby is an obedient actor who eagerly plays his role.
He really should be in jail.
Remember back in the 80's when Fauci delayed promotion of an AIDS treatment that would have prevented tens of thousands of deaths in the first years of the epidemic, because he was in bed with some other pharmaceutical companies?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/whitewashing-aids-history_b_4762295
I was too young to remember that part of it, but I do remember that we couldn't use drinking fountains at our elementary school for a couple of years.
That was before bottled water was widely used or perhaps even available, so, it was rough after recess or soccer practice, when your choices were a half pint of 2% milk, or being thirsty.
Considering how AIDS is transmitted, I have to ask.... what were people doing to that water fountain....
It was kind of like a cross between early covid where people were constantly sanitizing surfaces and washing hands and using hand sanitizer, etc, even though we later found out that it's nearly impossible to spread it that way, and how they are refusing to confront the fact that monkeypox is spread largely by gay orgies.
So….. Tony is spreading it then? I always said he was a superspreader, and not just his ass.
"Close the spread to flatten the spread!"
Fauci should be executed for so many things.
They should do to him, what he did to puppies l
Fucking garden gnome should be shot, dragged through the streets, and hung from a lamppost, in whichever order would be most painful.
Even the founder of Act Up (a communist organization in the guise of healthcare advocates) said he deserved a firing squad.
He’ll be throwing out the first pitch at a Mariners game here in Seattle next week.
Joe Friday will be the spectator holding up a big “marry me tony!” sign.
LOL. That gave me a good laugh
Hey Robby! What happened to Kim Iversen?
Why didn't she interview Fauci with you?
Because Fauci requested the Libertarian.
Yo, Fauci, who do you want to interview you?
*Fauci looks over list and headshots* I'll take the Libertarian and the lesbian... that seems like a safe choice.
Because she left Rising 5 days ago.
Yes.
Why?
Kim Iversen: Why I'm No Longer On The Hill's Rising
got a summary of that?
Can't watch the you tubes here.
She asked to be on the panel interviewing Fauci and was told no, that she would need to remove herself from the show while Fauci was there.
Who the fuck is Kim Iverson?
The only information I can get from Google is that she's obviously a Russian stooge.
Try the link from ML or D(Paul) from yesterday. Or google it again and learn she is a former point guard for the Philadelphia Sixers.
Then make an inane statement about how practice is not that important.
"obviously a Russian stooge."
Bought to you by the same party that labeled everything "Russian disinformation" that they wanted to distract from.
Y'alls playbook isnt really that deep is it Tony?
I certainly didn't enter the 2010s worrying about Russian disinformation. Yet there it was, helping a fat orange incompetent become president and turning the Republican base into brainwashed conspiracy-spewing morons. It's all there in the Mueller report.
The smart thing to do would be to take the escape hatch. You have a mustache-twirling foreign government to blame for all the terrible things you've done. Isn't that better than being responsible for it yourself?
You just described yourself you dumb fag.
Its Mueller time! And just like Miller, the content is weak, bland, and convincing only to drunks and little girls.
Remember when Obama would have more flexibility to work with Russia after the election?
Remember when Romney was mocked for saying Russia was our biggest enemy?
I guess when a Democrat is in office, Russia is a friend, then when a Republican is in office suddenly they're dangerous loose cannons?
Seems pretty dumb, but then again I should consider who we're talking about I suppose.
Tony is a stooge, so he has a good feeling for stoogeness. But he’s not as bright as Larry Curly or Moe.
Or even shemp.
Or Joe. The lamest stooge
Tony, you’re a democrat. So you’re not really even American. As you are a democrat, which is a lower order of life, you have no business casting aspersions on the patriotism of real Americans. Especially since you democrats are all traitors and sponsors orphans domestic terror.
So fuck off, and go drink some Srano.
Don't you think that it's a bit implausible for all Democrats to traitors when the only traitorous events of the last decade have all been essentially sponsored by the Republican party? If everyone's a traitor, what's patriotism?
Republicans can’t be traitors. Whereas treason is in what lasses for the heart of all democrats. Your party platform pretty much follows the ten pillars of Marxism. I doubt you can understand any of this, as you are not capable of being patriotic.
We are trying to figure out if you are really this stupid, or just pretending to be (and if so, why?).
Can anyone tell the difference between Tony and sarc anymore?
Tony's more coherent and also funny, albeit unintentionally.
Who tried to murder a Supreme Court justice fool?
Rand Paul is a friendless, antisocial misfit and delusional blowhard. (This week, he was one of two senators who would not vote on NATO admissions -- Hawley voted no, Paul (the coward) voted present.)
Dr. Fauci is a Medal of Freedom recipient.
One of these persons is credible.
A decision regarding which is credible is a reliable indictor of whether a person is part of the reasoning, worthwhile American mainstream (or, instead, a disaffected clinger).
“Friendless antisocial misfit.”
It’s so cute when you describe yourself.
Look at his screen name it's an anime name I think you nailed it perfectly with that statement.
You really do worship evil in all it’s myriad forms
Dr. Fauci is a Medal of Freedom recipient. One of these persons is credible.
Probably the one that didn't kill thousands of AIDS patients, and lie many times under oath while denying knowledge about research he was involved in.
But it was official Republican policy in the 1980s to sit back and hope AIDS did to gays what concentration camps couldn't.
Ah, so it naturally follows that fauci was blameless, eh tony? Fucking Republicans. Lol.
Wow. What is wrong with you?
I don't give a fuck about Dr. Fauci. He's just a guy. Nobody can claim that AIDS was handled well, but it's hardly a surprise when the US establishment has been ignoring any problems not being felt by white heterosexuals for the past, oh, 250 years. The special thing about AIDS was the glee Republicans expressed at the prospect of gays dying en masse, which is just what happened.
I'm supposed to believe that Republicans actually wanted to help AIDS victims but were stymied by evil Dr. Fauci? I occasionally find myself in the company of toothless morons with political theories. Fauci comes up a lot. In normal circles where educated people tend to be, he's just a guy. The scapegoat du jour of conspiracy nuts.
Y'all are exhausting. Science itself isn't as rigorous as your commitment to believing bullshit.
Yeah tony, being sophisticated means swallowing any lies the dems tell you cuz of your intense hatred for republicans.
Seems rational, dude.
Tony has always been so blinded by rage against the evil republicans that he would excuse away a democrat pouring sulfuric acid on him if they told him it was for equity, or the party, or LGBTQ rights.
But then Trump came in and gave him so much TDS he is pretty much incapable of having a rational thought. His brain has been melted down to a comic book level of thinking.
>>the glee Republicans expressed at the prospect of gays dying en masse
this happened nowhere but your mind.
Reagan ignoring AIDS out of fear of Christian bigots is well documented history. An entire generation of gay men died.
Republicans are far worse than they've ever been given credit for.
Reagan ignoring AIDS out of fear of Christian bigots is well documented history.
But what you said was "The special thing about AIDS was the glee Republicans expressed at the prospect of gays dying en masse" and "it was official Republican policy in the 1980s to sit back and hope AIDS did to gays what concentration camps couldn't."
Gay men sided because even in the face of a deadly virus that had no cured, you kept raw digging each other in gangbangs and orgies at steam baths and windowless bars. What you’re incorrectly blaming. Republicans for is not removing the need to control your behavior.
So once again, it’s all your fault.
An easy cite, then, right? And for both Reagan and the mortality numbers.
If only that were true.
You should watch Dallas Buyer's Club some time
Which high death rate disease did white heterosexual transmit to tens of billions spent that could largely be mitigated by not fucking everyone?
Oh, and didn’t you just say last week that you “don’t put much stock in blame”? Like 3 times?
Laughed at it then, knew it wouldn’t take long for you to reveal that lie.
AIDS is pretty avoidable if you don’t insist on barebacking with as many anonymous guys as possible. Instead of assuming any personal responsibility for your cations, you blame the good guys because you don’t like their politics. Which include warning that barebacking a many anonymous guys as possible is a bad idea.
in their world:
- Freedom for 10000% hedonistic pleasure and narcissistic expression is their right
- Consequence for any action is tyranny
- Even informing them that "Your prioritizing hedonistic pleasure in this scenario will cause an increased risk, given what we know" amounts to hate speech.
When you realize you are basically dealing with narcissistic, selfish people with the mental stability and maturity of tweens, it makes a whole lot more sense
The funny thing is that people like Tony back at that time could have stopped the spread of AIDS in its tracks if they had just learned to control themselves. So clearly it wasn’t much of a priority. So why should it be to people who are never going to get it?
I think you are being unfair to tweens.
Covid has a vaccine. Did you take it?
Biden got 6 vaccines including the boosters I think and got Covid two weeks in a row. It's almost like they don't work or something.
No, why would I bother? I’ve already had WuFlu.
The vaccine is so good they had to change the definition of vaccine.
Ahh yes, all of those gay concentration camps in the '80s. Those windowless buildings where gay men entered and then were never seen or heard from again. Who knew San Francisco bath houses were run by Republicans?
Do you still have your serial number tattooed around the ring of your asshole, Tony?
lol medal of freedom = anything
"Rand Paul is a friendless, antisocial misfit and delusional blowhard..."
Projection by asshole bigot.
Eat shit and die, asshole.
I hear Rand Paul is a very popular guy socially, amd is considered to be both grounded and intellectual. Whereas Arty is a drooling subnormal. People likely cross the street to avoid dealing with him.
The funny thing is, Arty talks big here, but I’m certain that if he ever met any of us face to face that he would cower and beg for mercy like a little bitch. Progtards are always pussies.
"Dr. Fauci is a Medal of Freedom recipient."
So he is in such esteemed company as Bill Cosby? Great stuff.
Or Obama and his Nobel Peace Prize.
CB
I’ll bet Obama seethed when Trump got the Abraham Accords ratified. Obama may have been handed a Novel prize, but he has no accomplishments to speak of. If anything, he made the world a far more dangerous place and made life worse for the entire human race.
Which is the democrat way.
I was going to suggest what Liberals would say about this, but the Rev. does it better than I ever could.
A-
I gave him a 'B' for boring.
We have OBL to give us the idiot leftist points, and he brings laughter to this world which is a boon.
You're worthless and irrelevant, both here and, I'm certain, in your real world.
Dr. Fauci is a Medal of Freedom recipient.
So was Rush Limbaugh. You going to defend him?
Haha. Rev, you should stick to your normal, boring schtick. It’s revealing when you go off script like this. Wow.
Seek Jesus.
Doctor Fauci got a Medal of Freedom.
Benedict Arnold got wounded in three different battles.
In the end, they both betrayed us.
The only relatively honest person (Kim Iverson) on the rising was forced out by the people directing you. What you (Robbie and Co.) do should not be considered honest reporting.
Never trust a man who cannot, it won't, learn to change his own tire
She wasn't forced out. It's important to be accurate. She left voluntarily because the producers wouldn't allow her to question Fauci. It was a purely voluntary decision made on her own. It's still important, but no one was fired or handed their hat.
I see it as she deserved to interview the Meerkat. You are right though, she bailed when she did not get her desire. And she knew that her cohosts would tow the Democrat line.
Yeah, nobody was fired for not getting COVID shots either, they just voluntarily quit their jobs because of the requirement that they inject experimental chemicals into their body in order to earn a living...
+1
I had to call AAA for a tire change, twice in one week, same section of road (some truck dropped a bunch of nails, maybe). It was a two lane country road, too narrow and dangerous to park on pavement, and with soft and sandy shoulders which made a jack useless.
I have since learned to carry a good piece of wood with the jack, and of course it hasn't happened again.
pleasant to see an absolute term used
Speaking of... Good Kid Productions dropped their latest 80 minutes of COVID Blasphemy with Dr. Jay Bhattacharya
Does anyone actually gaf what this douchebag says? He has zero credibility with anyone serious anyhow.
So says the asshole leftist.
I thought Tony was a huge Fauci fan. Didn't even care about the AIDS thing.
You mean Fauci? Leftists still like him, don't they?
Paul says that "we can sequence these viruses and create an mRNA vaccine in days to weeks now".
That was what we were told on paper, but is that actually true? We're how many months into this Omicron thing and the vaccine companies are still only promising the fall as a release date for the variant? Not a vaccine... but a modified vaccine for the Omicron variant?
The question is not the time required, but will the next one actually work?
I'm curious about that as well. The original vaccines were supposedly available within a week or so. Is this a technical issue or a bureaucratic issue? Is it just that there's less demand now? I have no idea.
David Bernstein had an interesting Volokh post on this a few months ago, related to his book Classified on the ludicrous federal ethnic and race classifications. The original definitions explicitly stated they were not to be used as scientific categories, in medical procedures, etc. Yet the FDA later added explicit requirements that all randomized clinical trials must include all of these bogus subsets, and it added many months to the approval process for absolutely no benefit whatsoever.
Andrew Yang is talking about science, economics and wonky political tweaks... the FDA, the Fed, the FCC are all talking about Diversity, Inclusion and Equity.
These particular ethnic and racial classifications go back to the 1970s.
Here: https://reason.com/volokh/2021/01/04/on-genetic-diversity-and-vaccine-studies/
The original article I remember is linked from the beginning of this article. A quick skim doesn't find any time interval, just
and this concerning the original definitions.
The obvious conclusion is that the vaccine was ready before the rest of us knew about covid. And that's what the patents tell us.
Yes, it is.
What is also true is that the Federal Death Administration will not actually approve the production and distribution of that vaccine anywhere near fast enough for it to matter.
Fauci should be charged for this crime and for negligence in funding dangerous research that probably created COVID.
Fauci should be charged for this crime and for negligence in funding dangerous research that
probablycreated COVID.In order for Trump to be exculpated for his malign incompetence wrt to Covid, it is necessary to inculpate Fauci. Hence the above stream of bullshit. Perhaps some of you are even stupid enough to think that Rand Paul is actually a libertarian.
^Long TDS is a horrible affliction^
Only a Trumpsucker thinks that he was not incompetent wrt Covid. Perhaps you forget his denials of its seriousness. Or perhaps you're one of those lumpencrackers who thinks that any criticism of Trump is evidence of TDS, while they themselves suffer from Deranged Trump Supporter syndrome.
Or perhaps you're one of those lumpencrackers who thinks that any criticism of Trump is evidence of TDS, while they themselves suffer from Deranged Trump Supporter syndrome.
That's the norm in these parts.
Only a Trumpsucker thinks that he was not incompetent wrt Covid.
Funny how this time you left out the "malign."
Not really. Some people might credit Trump with being merely incompetent.
Of course a Trumpsucker could never admit even that.
Not really.
No - you really did:
SRG
August.4.2022 at 3:01 pm
In order for Trump to be exculpated for his malign incompetence wrt to Covid,
* * *
SRG
August.4.2022 at 3:54 pm
Only a Trumpsucker thinks that he was not incompetent wrt Covid.
See how you moved the goalposts?
We call that "motte and bailey."
Some people might credit Trump with being merely incompetent.
That's exactly my point.
You're an idiot, trying to make a debating point out of nothing.
I think that Trump was malignly incompetent. I don't think that all non-Trumpsuckers think he was malign. This is not moving the goalposts - it is merely a recognition that opinions differ.
You're an idiot, trying to make a debating point out of nothing.
I'm just pointing out that you got called out on your content-free TDS and now you're back-pedaling.
You're pointing out nothing other than trying to argue that as I used "malign" in one post but not another, this has significance.
Thinking Trump was incompetent in his management of Covid is not TDS, it's evidence-based. Where room for disagreement arises is how much of the incompetence is due to malignity.
The fact you want to attribute malice, yet have no basis you care to share on that point, yet then retreat to the argument that it was incompetence is the literal definition of motte and bailey.
If you don't want to be called on your hyperbole, don't use it in the first place. Easy.
“I will shut down the virus”.
Joe Biden
It worked for fracking.
And Putin.
In order for Trump to be exculpated for his malign incompetence
Don't wear masks! Wear masks! Wear two masks!
The vaccine is 100% effective!
People need to get over the notion of individual freedom!
I am The Science!
I should be above the law!
Misinformation is whatever I say it is!
Slander doctors who disagree with me!
Malign, indeed. Fauci had the morals or Mengele and the politics of Lysenko.
More like the "science" of Lysenko.
Trump acted correctly. Democrats did not. As usual, democrats are the ones who fucked up. Your kind really shouldn’t exist.
The paper trail does that well enough.........
Every politically unsophisticated dude you meet on the street has a different conspiracy theory about how it all works. It's a symptom of anti-intellectualism, I guess. Anyone with any credibility is suspected to part of the plot.
Just because he's a senator doesn't mean he's any different. He comes from a long line of hillbillies with theories.
Most gay men think Fauci is evil for killing so many AIDS patients, but Tony's a Democrat before anything else.
Rand Paul is a pompous blowhard and does a great disservice to the LP cause because everyone associates him with the LP despite him being a Republican. Any time I try and explain libertarianism to folks or discuss libertarian solutions to today's problems, at least three-quarters jump straight to Rand Paul's various crackpot conspiracy theories about all sorts of stuff.
Meanwhile, back to the pompous blowhard part... I work with doctors, and they're almost all pompous blowhards because they think that because they trained in a particular subspecialty, that still gives them the right to expound on anything medically-related even if it's way far afield from their area of expertise. Despite Dr. Fauci being a career bureaucrat who hasn't made an honest private-sector dollar in his life, I'd still trust his infectious disease knowledge over Rand Paul's.
You don't work with doctors, shrike. And stop sockpuppeting FFS.
Do you work with doctors, peasant? Perhaps you think that being a psych subject constitutes "working with doctors".
Do you work with doctors, peasant?
Oops - your mask slipped.
What mask, peasant?
The one that feigns concern for the peasants.
That makes no sense.
That's because you're too dumb even to understand peasants.
Kiddie Raper, YOU are a peasant. You have to hide, or you would be tortured in prison, or dead.
SRG is a Rev Kirkles sock.
LOL. Hardly.
Your lying doesn't change the facts.
As I've noted before, Rand Paul - like his honest but batshit meshuggeh father - is only libertarian wrt the Federal government. For some reason, the thought that state gubmints might also be a source of infringement on liberty seems to have largely escaped both of them.
For some reason, the thought that state gubmints might also be a source of infringement on liberty seems to have largely escaped both of them.
What does that have to do with Fauci having lied about the gain of function research?
What did the original NIH document say?
What did the original NIH document say?
About state governments and Rand Paul? Not much that I can recall.
What do they have to do with Fauci having lied about the gain of function research?
So you don't know enough to have an informed opinion.
Educate me. I'm a mere peasant.
I doubt you're educable, peasant or no.
So you've got nothing but sputtering assertions that no one should be paying attention to that evil Dr. Paul and his uncomfortable questions that Fauci can't answer without lying.
Got it.
Despite Dr. Fauci being a career bureaucrat who hasn't made an honest private-sector dollar in his life, I'd still trust his infectious disease knowledge over Rand Paul's.
What does that have to do with Fauci having lied about the gain of function research?
This fixation is in service of a narrative, correct? That Fauci created Covid-19 (accidentally? on purpose?) and...
Well, I guess the rest is obvious. As old as the Bible. You need a scapegoat so you don't have to take any responsibility for all the deaths you caused by participating in vaccine denial.
As long as we can throw Fauci to the gods, we're good. That about cover it?
I'm sorry, but what does this have to do with Fauci having lied about the gain of function research?
Everything, as I explained.
The virus probably came from an outdoor market next to a jungle. Fauci didn't lie, but even if he did, what's the next point you'd like to make about that? What is the relevance? Do you just want a gold star sticker for finally getting a fact right for the first time in your life?
Well, keep trying.
Everything, as I explained.
So . . . let me see if I have this right.
Rand Paul's professional background is absolutely central to the question of why Fauci lied about funding gain of function research because . . . nope, I still don't think you've actually explained anything.
The virus probably came from an outdoor market next to a jungle.
What does that have to do with Fauci having lied about the gain of function research?
Fauci didn't lie, but even if he did, what's the next point you'd like to make about that? What is the relevance?
That it's not good to have guys at the head of public agencies secretly funding dangerous research that has been specifically prohibited by law and then lying to Congress about it?
Fauci told Congress that the NIH did not fund gain of function research in Wuhan. As testimony and multiple documents now in the public record reveal, Fauci lied to Congress. Rand Paul believes that GOF research is dangerous on its face and should not be funded by US taxpayers. Whether Covid was a direct result is a different matter that should also be investigated.
No, it was democrats who caused deaths with stupid policies. Tony, it’s always going to be your fault. I know you only have an 85 IQ, but you should have figured this out by now.
Then you're a fucking moron.
Every politically unsophisticated dude you meet on the street has a different conspiracy theory about how it all works.
What does that have to do with Fauci having lied about the gain of function research?
He didn't. You don't know what you're talking about. You just want the soft, comfortable blanket of certainty that Fauci was responsible for all those deaths and not Republicans who overtly promoted vaccine hesitancy.
He didn't.
So he didn't deny having funded the gain of function research that he funded?
You just want the soft, comfortable blanket of certainty that Fauci was responsible for all those deaths and not Republicans who overtly promoted vaccine hesitancy.
Unlike you, I haven't actually blamed anybody for COVID.
I'm just curious why Fauci lied about the gain of function research.
He didn't, and if he did, I'm sure he had his reasons.
With conspiracy nuts like Rand Paul, you just have to humor them until they stop talking.
He didn't, and if he did, I'm sure he had his reasons.
lol
Special rules for the Party elite!
Let's see if I got this. Fauci saying that the NIH didn't fund "gain-of-function" research when it in fact did fund such research is a hillbilly political theory? Seems to me like it's a pretty simple thing that could be cleared up with a few facts like, I dunno, looking where NIH money went.
The NIH backs him up, though the real story is more complicated (as biological research tends to be).
This story doesn't have clear-cut fairy tale endings and good guys and bad guys—apart from anyone who promoted vaccine hesitancy during a global pandemic. Those are bad guys.
"This story doesn't have good guys and bad guys except for the bad guys."
That's like the sixth time on this one page you've contradicted yourself over the course literally of a single sentence.
But I know the motives of the people who promoted vaccine skepticism. What's Fauci's motive? A mustache in need of twirling?
I don't think good guys and bad guys is a useful way of categorizing reality, and on the other hand, if anyone's a bad guy, it's opportunistic politicians who promote lies that get people killed in order to exacerbate tribal hatred. The Nazis are bad guys. Hot take.
But I know the motives of the people who promoted vaccine skepticism.
Of course you do, Tony, of course you do.
I don't think good guys and bad guys is a useful way of categorizing reality
And then comes the rest of your sentence. Is that seven, or are there other fresh comments I haven't seen yet?
Tony, the people you support are the bad guys. As you yourself are an evil person. All of you should be executed for the things you’ve done.
He comes from a long line of hillbillies with theories.
Yet he still managed to make it through medical school. Unlike you.
Lots of people went to medical school.
You didn’t.
I am guessing Tony went to drama queen summer camp, and had a Marxist counselor. But had to get his mom come and take him home. Where he still lives.
Tell us about the Russian goblins again.
What? A government official lied? That never happens.
Lest we forget, it was Rand who suggested trumpublicans wait until the Orange God King was gone before holding the 2nd impeachment, thus being able to weasel out of impeaching the grump.
Lol, wtf?
DNC put a lot of their bots on this article
Why are they so terrified of Rand Paul?
Rand Paul is the most level headed Republican on the national stage and he also appeals to Trump supporters. Donkeys would prefer to face someone they can slime as racist sexist etc, but with Rand that’s not believable except for stooges like Tony and the other Donkeybots that slither in here.
^
Their pigeon shit is all over reason today. Soros or Bezos must have mailed another check.
Read a fucking newspaper.
Two recent studies showed the outbreak almost certainly started in the outdoor market, not the Chinese lab.
Why does Kentucky keep electing this ignorant twit.
Hoping you die soon, you old demented Marxist.
Any time someone states a fact here, someone comes along to wish death upon them. So weird.
Good thing you don't post actual facts.
the outbreak almost certainly started
A 'fact' to the Tonys
two recent studies!
I'd swear you're this dude I used to know in NJ your delivery is exactly the same as his ... except that guy was correct a couple times a week
Two recent studies showed the outbreak almost certainly started in the outdoor market, not the Chinese lab.
Not true. What the studies showed was that the outbreak first spread from the area around the market, they did not assert, and were careful to note that they were not asserting, that the outbreak started at the market.
Do you know what else was in the neighborhood of the market? That the studies specifically didn't rule out as the source?
Mickey D’s?? KFC? Bats are us??
Hitler?
Yes, studies funded by the CCP. Goddamn you are a stupid credulous fuck.
One of the studies dipshit Rand should read.
"The Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan was the early epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic
Abstract
Understanding how severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) emerged in 2019 is critical to preventing zoonotic outbreaks before they become the next pandemic. The Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan, China, was identified as a likely source of cases in early reports but later this conclusion became controversial. We show the earliest known COVID-19 cases from December 2019, including those without reported direct links, were geographically centered on this market. We report that live SARS-CoV-2 susceptible mammals were sold at the market in late 2019 and, within the market, SARS-CoV-2-positive environmental samples were spatially associated with vendors selling live mammals. While there is insufficient evidence to define upstream events, and exact circumstances remain obscure, our analyses indicate that the emergence of SARS-CoV-2 occurred via the live wildlife trade in China, and show that the Huanan market was the epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic."
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abp8715
We show the earliest known COVID-19 cases from December 2019, including those without reported direct links, were geographically centered on this market.
This sentence does not say what you're claiming it does.
Do you know what else is "geographically centered on this market?"
We report that live SARS-CoV-2 susceptible mammals were sold at the market
But none with the actual virus?
You lost me at "dipshit Rand". Do you approach people who you disagree with and want to have a dialogue, with "Hey, asshole"?
An emotional topic, involving the deaths of millions, is going to be hard to talk about because of the preconceived opinions. It's similar to having a religious discussion between an atheist and a Christian.
Odds are, no one is going the be open to the other's viewpoint. So, showing aggression from the start is a guarantee of "failure to communicate".
Dude, I'm speaking the language of this board where I am ususally the target of worse language.
New here?
You'd be mistaken. You lie, they insult. Better to flame than to be dishonest.
Do you approach people who you disagree with and want to have a dialogue, with "Hey, asshole"?
You must be new here.
And by newspaper, Joe means a hard left propaganda rag like the NYT or WAPO (though the Post had to scrub some articles from 2020 when actual, Democrat-acceptable scientists proposed lab leaks).
There are two issues here.
#1. Did the NIH fund gain-of-function research at the Wuhan lab, as the term is scientifically defined?
#2. Did the NIH fund gain-of-function research at the Wuhan lab, as the term is defined by the NIH moratorium that suspended the research in 2014?
They are not the same thing.
https://www.asbmb.org/asbmb-today/policy/112121/gain-of-function-research-all-in-the-eye-of-the-be
That’s really a fine distinction that even the principals do not agree on.
Moreover, Fauci understood the work to be gain of function - increasing ability to infect - as the embedded link shows.
Ask yourself why Fauci so vehemently defends the wet market origin. Simple, it gets him off the hook of being another Mengele.
The takeaway for me with a co-conspirator to mass murder by reckless (negligent) lab experiments, then perjury to cover it up, is no accountability for political officials. Why? Part of the political paradigm of authoritarianism is zero justice, but plenty of fraud, denial after denial.
So, the question is: Why do people keep voting to empower this system? And why do they believe I should have to suffer with them?
When the Heffalumps take the House they can investigate this criminal and likely put him in prison.
Why do people keep voting to empower this system?
Because it makes them feel safe.
Because people can't think past "I want something but I can't go to my neighbor's and take it. However, I can use the State Apparatus to get it."
Yeah, if that actually happened. It didn't.
It actually did. Read this:
https://drasticresearch.org/
In U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations hearing this week, U.S. Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) questioned Gina Abercrombie-Winstanley, the U.S. Department of State’s Chief Diversity and Inclusion Officer, as to why the Biden administration spent U.S. taxpayer dollars on a film festival in Portugal that promoted incest and sex with minors. As part of Biden’s “LGBTQ+ and Diversity, Equity, Inclusion & Accessibility efforts,” the State Department spent $10,000.00 promoting “Queer Lisboa,” a noted Portuguese film festival.( jOE BIDEN ONE SICK FXXX.)