Immortality in the Metaverse
The metaverse platform Somnium Space plans to let its users' personas live on.

Would you want your persona to live forever in the metaverse after your physical body shuffles off this mortal coil? That is what the metaverse platform Somnium Space plans to offer its users, starting in the next year or so, with its Live Forever service.
By applying an unspecified artificial intelligence (A.I.), Live Forever would instantiate a digital avatar of the user based on vast amounts of information collected as he or she interacts in Somnium Space through virtual reality headsets, controllers, and, eventually, full-body haptic suits with motion capture and biometric monitoring. Data on facial expressions, body language, gait, voice, conversations, and character traits would allow the avatar to walk, talk, and react just like the deceased user. Descendants and friends could interact with the avatar in a perpetually accessible digital seance years and decades later.
At least initially, Live Forever avatars would be deathbots, or personalized chatbots based on training data voluntarily provided by specific dead individuals. "Maybe for the first 10 minutes while talking to that person, you would not know that it's actually A.I.," Somnium Space CEO Artur Sychov told Vice in April. "That's the goal." But "with the progression of A.I." over time, Sychov added, "we can recreate you better and better" using the same stored data.
How much better? A lot better, according to University of Southampton computer scientist Paul Smart. In his chapter, "Predicting Me: The Route to Digital Immortality?" in the 2021 book The Mind-Technology Problem, Smart notes that "an emerging consensus in cognitive science views the biological brain as a hierarchically-organized predictive processing system that relies on generative models to predict the structure of sensory information." Smart argues that future deep-learning-A.I. researchers will be able to create analogous synthetic generative models capable of "capturing the essential elements of who and what we are."
The development of these models, Smart says, would "provide the means by which some aspect of ourselves is able to persist long after the biological body has withered away." Such advancements in artificial intelligence will enable the digital resurrection of an individual as "a sentient being, capable of enjoying (and enduring) the rich panoply of emotional states and conscious experiences that characterized their biological life."
Digital immortals would continue to learn and evolve their personalities and interests, form new social relationships with other digital immortals and biological people, and own both physical and virtual assets. Whether folks still existing in meatspace would recognize digital immortals as persons (with rights) remains to be seen.
This article originally appeared in print under the headline "Digital Immortality or Deathbot?."
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The Zuckiverse has become the main selling point for Hell as an alternative destination.
don't worry, it ain't gonna happen for anyone.. I mean, besides having an NPC stand around some virtual space that has your original avatar and says random shit if people try to interact with it.
...as said on a digital message board...
What a fun little article!
Waste of time and money; I plan on getting my head frozen.
Oh! My! God! He's Alive! It's John-Caleb Bradberton!
Pass the Meta ice cream.
Isn't there a TV show about this already?
Hey Jeffy, care to identify who the neo-nazis that post here are? Since you just claimed there are some.
Jeff is pro abortion until the birth canal fairy which kills black children at higher rates than whites.
He is also pro segragation in his support of CRT in schools.
Think he was just admitting to being one.
Jeff is pro abortion until the birth canal fairy which kills black children at higher rates than whites.
not true
He is also pro segragation in his support of CRT in schools.
not true
I see Jesse is in standard form today
You've argued both.
It is amazing watching you lie from day to day.
Are you honestly going to say you haven't attacked laws like the 15 week regulation law that led to the overturning of roe? That you haven't argued for late term abortions?
Are you honestly going to argue you have supported CRT for years now. Claimed it was just teaching history? And that CRT hasn't advocated for policies leading to segragation?
Because you're just fucking lying if you make that claim now.
Jesse and Jeff sitting in a tree k.i.s.s.i.n.g.
Jesse's way to old to get chemjeff aroused.
Anybody who's hit puberty is.
You really are a stupid dishonest person.
"Abortion ought to be legal in very narrow well-defined circumstances" is not the same as "pro-abortion until birth". But you know this, and you lie.
"CRT is a theory worth discussing" is not the same as "I support every part of CRT". But you know this, and you lie. In fact I have explicitly criticized some parts of CRT.
You are just a poo-flinging moron.
Your "boaf sidez!" posturing is boring. If you support abortion in any case except to save the life of the mother, then you are sanctioning murder of unborn infant humans.
CRT is patently ridiculous and antithetical to existing in a nation with equal rights. It's just racial grievance politics.
Grow the fuck up and stop believing in childish things.
Don't know about a TV show but I can think of a half dozen science fiction stories on this exact topic. It's not a new idea - and no surprise that someone is trying to make a lot of money off the hype and vaporware.
The interesting questions will start when the 'deathbot' asserts both sentience and the right to inherit the meat person's assets.
This Black (don’t forget gay) man who is GOP Proud like Caitlin and Milo predicts the downfall of Caprica in, oh, about 20 years. Furthermore, no one should be allowed to hang out with a hot blonde in a red dress until further notice. They’ll only bring about trouble. Trust me on this.
You in order to live forever you need to spend vast amounts of time wasting your real life
these models ... would "provide the means by which some aspect of ourselves is able to persist long after the biological body has withered away."
Cool! Sort of like portraits done by Renaissance masters!
will enable the digital resurrection of an individual as "a sentient being, capable of enjoying (and enduring) the rich panoply of emotional states and conscious experiences that characterized their biological life."
Perhaps "an individual" in the sense of a kind of clone -- but it ain't gonna be *you* consciously resurrected!
"they're not actually going to heaven. Their scanned avatars are" Caprica (Battlestar Galactica spinoff - 2011)
This may be big news among antisocial, right-wing malcontents who just can't navigate the modern, reality-based world.
If anyone thinks the "Metaverse" will come to fruition, you are a fool.
How many of you play Second Life or have a Second Life account? That was the original metaverse.
How many of you want to wear a heavy headset for hours a day to engage in the metaverse? Most people will shun this cumbersome interface and not engage.
There is a graveyard full of companies and ideas that were metaverses. They are all dead because the immersive metaverse is widely rejected by the marketplace.
One of my favorite shows. It's spot on most times with its rhetoric.
And the now decades of evidence supports that in VR people don't want to be themselves anyway.
They want to be *checks what's going on in Second Life these days*
... oh no.
Headsets are getting lighter and will be used as every day AR wear.
Second Life still is pretty popular, despite have been updated very little. So is VRChat.
Trannys are such pathetic little vermin.
We get it, you're an embarrassment to the human species - just off yourself instead of turning into a biomechanic absurdity.
I've got a bot and a thousand snarky posts all set to post here the moment I kick off. You can't get rid of me that easily!
My bots are probably already on their 11th generation of offspring.
Alistair Reynolds has a concept somewhat like this in his beta level simulations of a human personality. Of course it requires a lot of personal information about the person which may or may not be valid to build into anything like the actual person.
By applying an unspecified artificial intelligence (A.I.), Live Forever would instantiate a digital avatar of the user based on vast amounts of information collected as he or she interacts in Somnium Space through virtual reality headsets, controllers, and, eventually, full-body haptic suits with motion capture and biometric monitoring.
"unspecified" == vaporware.
hey btw my first choice for the '88 nomination was Haig. was a senior in h.s. ... volunteered got free shirt & everything lol
You and I are from the school they tore down to build the old school.
can still pull off 32 if wearing a cap lol.
It's the box in the flow chart labeled "miracle occurs here".
>>"we can recreate you better and better"
don't want re-creation, want uploading.
Neal Stephenson, Iain M Banks, Harlan Ellison...the list goes on.
Mozart, Dante, Marlowe, Zuckerberg
The TV show Upload did it better. In that version you had to slice and dice your brain before you died, and it was basically irreversible.
If anyone is willing to watch a very good video, we can see this idea has already been done:
https://youtu.be/xg29TuWo0Yo
But "with the progression of A.I." over time, Sychov added, "we can recreate you better and better" using the same stored data.
Paranoid sci-fi version:
Force everyone to work from home, for their own safety and the good of the planet. Make all meetings and human interactions virtual, with all physical deliveries by drone.
Copy everyone's virtual persona and replace them with an AI.
Use the now superfluous physical bodies and brains for food, green energy, and/or parallel processing computing power.
This is just a data grab.
Tell us everything. Every tiny little detail of who you are so we can "recreate" an avatar...
Then we'll sell that data all over the place for advertising purposes.
Anyone who goes for this deserves the endless personalized spam during their RealLife™ -- all so that a meta-world nobody interacts with can see an avatar of them that they no longer control.
Such advancements in artificial intelligence will enable the digital resurrection of an individual as "a sentient being, capable of enjoying (and enduring) the rich panoply of emotional states and conscious experiences that characterized their biological life."
Wishful thinking. Surely Ronald Bailey does not believe this pabulum? Generative language models are quite impressive but there's no reason to believe a sentient machine is even possible. If AI is teaching us anything it's that sentience and intelligence are not linked. All AI is just a Chinese Room.
Sentience probably can't be modeled without the qualia of being a living organism. Eventually someone is going to simulate a brain in a box and figure this out. A neural net built in meat is fundamentally different from one built in code.
Sentience may not be the same as (or require) intelligence, but perhaps it might come from complexity (number of possible interactions) and data input.
Let me stop you right there Slick - scam. That's all it is, a scam.
" That's all it is" is the problem—
"it" is an "it" and it has a non-metaphysical externalities , like unpaid tax bills and a carbon footprint that may one day put crypto to shame.
The article is definitely interesting, but I liked the comments more. What amazing businessmen gathered here, lol. I'm certainly happy for you, just as I'm happy for myself that I found a reliable enterprise security software. However, I have no idea what your statements about making $30,000 have to do with the article. Maybe you earned virtual money that doesn't exist? If not, go to 2ch in the business section.
Why would we want a bunch of dumb millennials n Gen zers living any longer than the creator intends, regardless of form?
Good news is, once they die and the AI kicks in, they start getting less whiny and more logical.
Yeah, here it is: Upload
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upload_(TV_series)