This Lawsuit Says a Recent SCOTUS Decision Makes It Clear That 'Assault Weapon' Bans Are Unconstitutional
The Supreme Court unambiguously rejected the sort of reasoning that a federal appeals court used to uphold New York's ban.

A federal lawsuit filed this week argues that the Supreme Court's recent ruling against New York's restrictions on public possession of firearms implies that the state's ban on "assault weapons" is likewise unconstitutional. The Firearms Policy Coalition (FPC) notes that the Court unambiguously rejected the "two-step analytical framework" that a federal appeals court applied when it upheld that law in 2015.
In the landmark 2008 case District of Columbia v. Heller, the Supreme Court said the Second Amendment applies to weapons "in common use" for "lawful purposes," which made a blanket ban on handguns unconstitutional. The FPC argues that the firearms New York has "tendentiously labeled 'assault weapons'" clearly fall into the same category.
"Rifles built on an AR-style platform are a paradigmatic example of the type of arm
New York bans," the complaint says. "AR-15 rifles are among the most popular firearms in the nation, and they are owned by millions of Americans. A recent survey of gun owners indicates that about 24.6 million Americans have owned up to 44 million AR-15 or similar rifles….And according to industry sources, more than one out of every five firearms sold in recent years were rifles of the type banned by New York."
Such rifles are rarely used in crimes. In 2019, according to FBI numbers cited by the FPC, "there were only 364 homicides known to be committed with rifles of any
type, compared to 6,368 with handguns, 1,476 with knives or other cutting instruments, 600 with personal weapons (hands, feet, etc.) and 397 with blunt objects." Only a subset of those rifles would qualify as "assault weapons." Prior to the federal "assault weapon" ban that expired in 2004, according to a widely cited study published that year, guns covered by such laws "were used in only a small fraction of gun crimes"—"about 2% according to most studies and no more than 8%." Most of those were pistols rather than rifles.
You might think these facts would be enough to establish that so-called assault weapons are "in common use" for "lawful purposes." As the FPC notes, millions of Americans use rifles covered by New York's ban for "defense of self in the home" as well as "hunting or sport shooting." Yet when the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit considered that law in the 2015 case New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Cuomo, it claimed there was insufficient evidence to determine whether such rifles were mainly used for lawful purposes, even as it conceded that they were "in common use."
Following the approach used by other federal appeals courts, the 2nd Circuit assumed, without deciding, that "assault weapons" were covered by the Second Amendment. But because the court thought the burden imposed by New York's law was less than "severe," it proceeded to uphold the ban under "intermediate scrutiny," which requires that a restriction be "substantially related" to a "compelling" government interest.
It is "beyond cavil," the 2nd Circuit noted, that a state's interest in "public safety and crime prevention" is compelling. Hence the only question was whether the ban was "substantially related" to that interest. In considering that question, the court said, "we afford 'substantial deference to the predictive judgments of the legislature,'" which is "far better equipped than the judiciary" to decide which gun regulations make sense.
Under that approach, it was inevitable that the 2nd Circuit would conclude that New York's ban was consistent with the Second Amendment. But the court went through the motions anyway.
"These weapons are disproportionately used in crime, and particularly in criminal mass shootings," the 2nd Circuit said. It did not mention that most mass shooters—77 percent, according to a recent National Institute of Justice report—use handguns. It did acknowledge that handguns account for an even larger share of total gun homicides: more than 90 percent in cases where the type of firearm was specified, according to the FBI's 2019 data. "That evidence of disproportionate criminal use," the 2nd Circuit noted, "did not prevent the Supreme Court from holding that handguns merited constitutional protection."
The 2nd Circuit also asserted that "assault weapons" are "especially hazardous." It endorsed the argument that the "net effect" of the "military combat features" targeted by New York "is a capability for lethality—more wounds, more serious, in more victims—far beyond that of other firearms in general, including other semiautomatic guns."
That claim is dubious. As the Associated Press Stylebook notes, the assault adjective "convey[s] little meaning about the actual functions of the weapon." Yesterday on Twitter, the A.P. reminded reporters that they should avoid the term assault weapon, which is "highly politicized."
If you look at how New York defines "assault weapons," you will understand why the A.P. says that. Under New York's law, a semiautomatic rifle that accepts detachable magazines is prohibited if it has any of several features, including a folding or telescoping stock, a pistol grip, a bayonet mount, a flash suppressor, or a threaded barrel. Possessing such a gun is a felony punishable by up to seven years in prison and a fine of $2,000 to $10,000. Yet removing the illegal features does not affect a rifle's "lethality" in any fundamental way: It still fires the same ammunition at the same rate (once per trigger pull) with the same muzzle velocity.
Instead of acknowledging that point, the 2nd Circuit tried to turn one of the plaintiffs' arguments against them. If any of the prohibited features are useful to law-abiding gun owners, it reasoned, they also are useful to mass murderers. "Plaintiffs explicitly contend that these features improve a firearm's 'accuracy,' 'comfort,' and 'utility,'" the court noted. "This circumlocution is…a milder way of saying that these features make the weapons more deadly."
The converse, of course, is also true. If these features are useful to mass murderers, as New York insists they are, they also are useful to law-abiding gun owners.
The FPC argues, for example, that folding or telescoping stocks allow a firearm to "be better fitted to an individual shooter"; "increase maneuverability in tight home quarters…as well as enabling safe storage of defense instruments in accessible spaces"; "allow for safe transportation, including in a hiking pack, an ATV, or a boat"; "ease carrying over long distances while hunting"; and, along with pistol grips, "open hunting and sport-shooting to those for whom recoil represents a high barrier to entry." It notes that pistol grips "improve accuracy and reduce the risk of stray shots by stabilizing the firearm while firing from the shoulder." It says "flash suppressors promote accuracy in target-shooting and hunting (especially at dawn)."
In essence, the 2nd Circuit weighed the interests of law-abiding gun owners, who account for the vast majority of "assault weapon" users, against the risk that the features they value might make a difference in the rare instances when someone uses such a firearm to murder people. Since the court deferred to the legislature's judgment about which was more important, its "intermediate scrutiny" amounted to little more than a toothless "rational basis" test. New York stated reasons why it expected the ban to promote public safety, and that was good enough.
The Supreme Court's June 23 ruling in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen, which concluded that the state had violated the Second Amendment by requiring residents to show "proper cause" for exercising the right to bear arms, made it clear that the 2nd Circuit's analysis in Cuomo was fundamentally misguided. According to the majority opinion, Heller and McDonald v. Chicago, the 2010 decision that applied the Second Amendment to state and local governments, "expressly rejected" the use of "any judge-empowering 'interest-balancing inquiry' that 'asks whether the statute burdens a protected interest in a way or to an extent that is out of proportion to the statute's salutary effects upon other important governmental interests.'"
The lower federal courts, which for more than a decade after Heller routinely rubber-stamped gun regulations, evidently did not get the memo. Their "two-step analytical framework" was a dance choreographed to conceal what was really going on: If a gun law struck judges as sensible, they would uphold it, either by denying that it implicated the Second Amendment or by declaring that the burden it imposed was no big deal.
In Bruen, the Supreme Court delivered an unmistakable message: Cut it out. The decision rejected "interest-balancing" standards in favor of a historical approach that asks whether a challenged law is analogous to restrictions that have traditionally been viewed as consistent with the right to keep and bear arms. A week later, the Court vacated four appeals court decisions upholding gun control laws, remanding the cases for reconsideration in light of Bruen. Those cases included a 4th Circuit decision that upheld Maryland's "assault weapon" ban, which reinforces the FPC's argument that the 2nd Circuit's reasoning in Cuomo was invalid.
That does not necessarily mean New York's "assault weapon" ban is doomed. Heller noted the "historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of 'dangerous and unusual
weapons.'" New York can still claim the guns it prohibits fall into that category. But as the FPC points out, it is implausible, given the wide popularity of those firearms, to suggest that they are "both dangerous and unusual."
The 2nd Circuit briefly considered the "dangerous and unusual" claim in Cuomo. "This analysis is difficult to manage in practice," it said. "Because the AR–15 is 'the civilian version of the military's M–16 rifle,' defendants urge that it should be treated identically for Second Amendment purposes. But the Supreme Court's very choice of descriptor for the AR–15—the 'civilian version'—could instead imply that such guns 'traditionally have been widely accepted as lawful.'"
The FPC argues that "assault weapons" are "common categorically, as they are all functionally semiautomatic in their operation"; "common characteristically, as they are all popular configurations of arms (e.g., rifles, shotguns, handguns) with varying barrel lengths and common characteristics like pistol grips"; and "common jurisdictionally, lawful to possess and use in the vast majority of states now and throughout relevant history for a wide variety of lawful purposes including self-defense, proficiency training, competition, recreation, hunting, and collecting." It concludes that "there is no constitutionally relevant difference" between the guns New York prohibits and the guns it allows.
David Kopel, a gun policy scholar and research director at the Independence Institute, concurs. "Under Heller," he notes, "all bearable arms are presumptively protected by the Second Amendment, and the state bears the burden of proving otherwise—such as by proving the arms to be 'dangerous and unusual.'" It seems clear, Kopel says, that "assault weapons" are "in common use," whether that status is measured by the total number owned, the percentage of gun owners who have them, or the number of jurisdictions that allow them. "Nothing that is 'in common use' can be 'dangerous and unusual,'" he concludes.
At least two of the six justices in the Bruen majority share this view. One of them, Brett Kavanaugh, dissented from a 2011 decision in which the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit upheld the District of Columbia's "assault weapon" ban.
"There is no meaningful or persuasive constitutional distinction between semi-automatic handguns and semiautomatic rifles," Kavanaugh wrote. "Semi-automatic rifles, like semi-automatic handguns, have not traditionally been banned and are in common use by law-abiding citizens for self-defense in the home, hunting, and other lawful uses. Moreover, semi-automatic handguns are used in connection with violent
crimes far more than semi-automatic rifles are. It follows from Heller's protection of semi-automatic handguns that semi-automatic rifles are also constitutionally protected and that D.C.'s ban on them is unconstitutional."
Justice Clarence Thomas, who wrote the majority opinion in Bruen, likewise takes a dim view of such laws. In 2015, when the Supreme Court declined to hear a case involving a local "assault weapon" ban, he vigorously objected. In his dissent, Thomas noted with dismay that "several Courts of Appeals" had "upheld categorical bans on firearms that millions of Americans commonly own for lawful purposes," which he viewed as clearly inconsistent with Heller.
Concurring in Bruen, Justice Samuel Alito emphasized that the ruling did not "decide anything about the kinds of weapons that people may possess." Alito, who wrote the majority opinion in McDonald, "made clear that his opinion in McDonald stands, including the analysis about 'longstanding prohibitions' and 'dangerous and unusual weapons,'" South Texas College of Law professor Josh Blackman writes. "Do not expect Alito to be a lock on…challenges to assault weapon bans."
Alito's concurring opinion in the 2016 case Caetano v. Massachusetts, which addressed a state ban on stun guns, nevertheless suggests that he would be open to arguments like the FPC's. "The pertinent Second Amendment inquiry," he said, "is whether stun guns are commonly possessed by law-abiding citizens for lawful purposes today." By that standard, "assault weapons," like stun guns, would be covered by the Second Amendment, even though the prohibited models did not exist when the amendment was written and ratified.
As a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit, Alito dissented from a 1996 decision that upheld convictions under a federal law that restricts the transfer of machine guns. But his objection was based on the concern that the law exceeded the federal government's powers under the Commerce Clause, not the conclusion that it violated the Second Amendment.
In 2017, Justice Neil Gorsuch joined Thomas in objecting when the Supreme Court declined to hear a challenge to California's restrictions on public possession of firearms. But it's not clear where he stands on the constitutionality of "assault weapon" bans. Likewise for Justice Amy Coney Barrett, who in 2019 wrote a striking 7th Circuit dissent concluding that the blanket federal ban on gun possession by people with felony records was inconsistent with the Second Amendment.
Concurring in Bruen, Kavanaugh noted that "the Second Amendment allows a 'variety' of gun regulations," and he quoted Heller's reference to "dangerous and unusual weapons." Judging from his 2011 D.C. Circuit dissent, he does not read that exception as a license for "assault weapon" bans. But Chief Justice John Roberts, who joined Kavanaugh's concurrence, may view the issue differently.
In short, it's not clear whether a majority of the Court is inclined to rule that "assault weapon" bans are unconstitutional. But it is clear that courts like the 2nd Circuit will need to rethink their rationale for upholding them.
[This post has been updated to note Alito's 1996 dissent in a 3rd Circuit case involving federal machine gun restrictions.]
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about 24.6 million
Americansmass shooters have owned up to 44 million AR-15 or similar rifles/progthink
And the progs also know those are full-auto with infinite magazine capacity.
Does the NYPD or the new York State Police use these kind of rifles?
why would that matter either way?
If their only purpose is to "kill as many people as possible as quickly as possible" one has to wonder how many people the NYPD plan to kill, and how quickly they need to kill them.
NYPD are authorized by law to execute as many persons as it takes to cow the survivors into kowtowing to whatever usurpations the better politicians choose to impose by deadly force on the riff-raff. Surely this is not news!
Are you really that dumb?
If the purpose of the rifle is to kill as many people in the shortest time frame possible, how is that a legitimate tool of the police? They could use RPGs or grenades. They don’t because there is a difference.
The answer is the rifle is very effective at eliminating multiple threats. It is the BEST weapon for home defense for more than one intruder.
To add to the other arguments.
Citizens should have the same weapons available as the government. Note there are special provisions in law that prevent (... well normally...) the military (and the CIA) from using its resources domestically against citizens.
If the police are driving around in armored cars, the citizens should have a right to weapons that can defeat the armor.
The police are not our rulers!
Yet more evidence (as if we needed it) that our modern police forces are mostly just armies of occupation.
Realistically, stop watching youtube!
The average police officer is a paper pusher. They show up late, document what happened and you give that documentation to the insurance company. That being said 95% are decent enough people. Its the 5% that should never have gotten a badge that's the problem (of those, 1% do bad things, the other 4% help cover it up/enable it).
"....The right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.."
No tiers of "scrutiny", no subjective "common use" or "dangerous/unusual" criteria, no exceptions for "compelling government interest", no legalise "word salad" is going to honestly get around; "...Shall not be infringed."
To see if a gun law is an infringement, just consider if it would be an infringement if gun permit were required in order to vote.
You may not have intended to make the point that taxes on arms infringe on the right recognized in the 2A, but if poll taxes are unconstitutional because they infringe on the right to vote, then ipso facto, taxes on arms are an infringement.
Yes, I intended to make that point.
Also the "training requirements that you have to pay for, the fees you have to pay (imagine a $250.00 subscription to vote in each election!), and paying for the background check, and the fact that the local officials can say "no" for any reason with no appeal and no refunds (may vary by jurisdiction)
If I win a lottery, I plan to find a lawyer with the balls to demand, under equal protection, that restrictions be put on the entire bill of rights equal to the restrictions on the second amendment. I would love to see all the "influencers" having to go to posting school and pay a couple hundred dollars a year for each social media account. Or some poor slob fishing around for his fifth amendment permit in court.
You have to hand Democrats this, though: for a “progressive” party, they are very conservative and consistent in their means of depriving Americans of their constitutional rights: their attempts at interfering with gun ownership are just like their attempts at voter disenfranchisement.
Both Democrats and Republicans are right wing, authoritarian political parties.
Republicans are just further right and further restrictive.
Nonsense. Democrats are typical leftists, and their policies are typical authoritarian left wing policies.
You actually don't have a right to vote... according to the constitution anyway.
That is wrong. The original Constitution guaranteed a republican form of government. The 13A, 14A, and 19A guarantee your right to vote and they are part of the Constitution.
When you vote you don't use guns directly. Someone else uses them for you. So it's ok.
No right is universal, unlimited, and infinite.
So your an advocate for child porn?
I gotta get me a mini 14.
Buttplug would sure like a mini14
The rifle in the picture, retard.
I’m sure he knew that.
Likely it’s a mini-30, unless the AK is some kind of 5.56 platform, but you’ve got the right idea.
I love them, been shooting them for 40 years, but they are motherfuckers to find magazines for the last few years.
My bad, looks like they’re both mini-14’s, one just “cosmetically challenged”.
Exactly. One is safe and the other is a dangerous assault weapon.
I went with a Kel-Tec over the Mini-14 partly for that reason.
The Ruger is going to be a much more durable rifle than the polymer receiver (especially running 5.56 ammo instead of 223), but the KT uses AR mags and for me it's primarily a range gun anyway.
Without the "protruding pistol grip", most of the blue states don't consider it to be capable of hurting anyone though.
Heller was Scala writing legislation from the bench and overturned 200 years of precedent to do so. The argument is fatuous bull shit on its face, saying popularity of guns useless for anything but killing humans, because their owners never grew up, trumps the mayhem they cause on our streets. Of course this illegitimate SC is full of Scania wannabes, and will lay down more legislation from the bench for future courts to overturn.
There are legitimate and lawful reasons for the general public to kill humans with guns.
...and knives like the NY bodega clerk.
He attacked a member of the aristocracy.
The illegitimate Supreme Court?
Sounds kind of insurrectiony.
That's Scalia numbnuts, NOT "Scala" and NOT "Scania".
I know pot is now legal in many states but you should consider scaling Scaliaing) back.
US .v Miller (1939) was precedent no? Miller was not in a militia, but pursued in court his individual right to a shotgun. SCOTUS didn't reject him because the right belong to the state. They rejected him because there was no proof in the record that his short barrelled shotgun was "suitable for militia service". Miller = the 2A protects an individuals right to arms in common use for militia service. For 80 plus years. I guess that court was legislating from the bench too?
You are beyond clueless. Miller allows you to keep a fully automatic M1 rifle (or any weapon hand carried by a solider into battle) but not a sawed off shotgun. In fact, the stronger inference is you can get into serious trouble if you don't keep an automatic weapon in the home. From the decision, '.....And further, that ordinarily when called for service these men were expected to appear bearing arms SUPPLIED BY THEMSELVES and of the kind in common use at the time....' Only an idiot thinks the Constitution requires you to wait for the Governor to call out the militia, call you into service and then you have get on your horse and ride 40 miles to a gun shop and fill out form and wait three to ten days to get a permit for a fully automatic weapon and report for duty. Then when the militia is put into moth balls, you have get back on your horse, ride 40 miles and sell the rifle until the next time.
Clueless? I posted Miller for the proposition that military style, or actual military arms, are protected under the 2A. Reading is fundamental.
This harkened back to the Gust Henry Virkula case of 1929, in which a Customs agent murdered a candy store owner, husband and father on the off chance he might have harbored felony beer. The Herbert Hooverville Administration of course saw to the officer's absolute qualified immunity and pretended the scattergun--not the initiation of deadly force to kill people because a politician heard an evangelist shriek VICE!
Uh - no. Let me suggest that you read, or reread if you actually read, the decision. It was filled with historical support, thanks to Volokh (now Reason) posters, like EV and Kopel (be sure you read the footnotes). That you don’t like the history cited in the decision is not the least bit relevant. It is the law of the land.
it seesm you have stumbled upon a dirty little secret.
The street thug and the gangbanger use them to facilitate their crimes.
They peaceably assemble to plan, plot, and prepare their robberies and drive-by shootings.
They peacefully bear arms to and from the scenes of robberies and drive-by shootings.
They use their freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures to conceal evidence that they committed, or are about to commit, a robbery or a drive-by shooting.
They use their right to a fair trial, their right to an attorney, their right to due process of law, to escape judgment for committing robberies and drive-by shootings.
They use their freedom from cruel and unusual punishment to avoid the punishment that they deserve for committing a robbery or a drive-by shooting, even if they are judged guilty consistently with their other rights.
Without the Constitution protecting these rights, the cops can judge street thugs and gangbangers guilty and give them the punishment that they deserve.
But what would make us think that they will only go after the street thug and the gangbanger?
What makes us think that they will even go after the street thug and the gangbanger?
what precedent?
there are very few previous SCOTUS cases about the 2nd Amendment because there didn't need to be a rebuke of gun-grabbing legislators prior to 'Great Society'
“mayhem on our streets”? Rifles of all kinds are used in less than 3% of all homicides so give the hyperbole a rest. Some 600 rifle homicides balanced against the 44+ million AR-15’s owned by the public should dispel all of this nonsense.
Besides the 2A angle, AR15s specifically compete for market share against patriotic, Union-Made Soviet Kalashnikov AK-47s, the pride and joy of Democratic Communism everywhere. The People's State lobbyists would be derelict indeed to pass up a chance to get corrupt plutocracy politicians to run interference so as to facilitate export sales of the Genuine Article! At home, of course, such a thing is absolutely forbidden to civilians.
Most home/self defense scenarios people are concerned about involve "two-legged predators"
50 cent troll only comes hereabouts to post progressive talking points, that are dictated to him.
I find it difficult to believe that someone is dictating those points to him -- he is quite capable of being stupid without help.
You should change your user name to “Fatuous Bullshit”; it would be fitting.
Nice long article.
But the US Constitution "Makes It Clear That 'Assault Weapon' Bans Are Unconstitutional".
You know, that pesky 'shall not be infringed' part?
Because if your right is infringed, you can't be effective in the militia.
The original Supreme Court precedent underling all gun control (US v. Miller) ruled only that sawed-off shotguns could be banned as they "serve no military purpose".
Based on that precendent, the last thing that any level of the government should be allowed to do is to ban civilian ownership of any particular model on the basis that it's a "weapon of war". "Assault weapons" (assuming that's a meaningful category of weapons at some level) should be the most clearly protected if the rationale is the need for a "well regulated militia"; moreso if the 18th century meaning of "well regulated" is taken into account, the most important thing about civilian owned arms would be that they're built and chambered to share magazines and/or ammunition with whatever the current military is issuing to active duty troops.
The trench gun, as it was called, was a short-barreled pump action shotgun loaded with 6 rounds containing antimony hardened 00 buckshot, and equipped with a bayonet.
The shotgun was used by Allied forces and Allied supported partisans in all theaters of combat in World War II, and both pump and semi-automatic shotguns are currently issued to all branches of the US military
Except so called “trench guns” don’t meet the definition of short-barreled rifles or short barreled shotguns; that’s intentional by the people who wrote the SBR/SBS restrictions.
Sawed-off shotguns sure made it easy for U.S. Customs agent Emmet J. White to murder Henry Virkula in cold blood in front of his wife and kids in 1929. Granted it was for a "good cause." If such murders were to stop one bottle of beer from ruining a life, that was justification then, as a plant leaf is now, for the Republican party to make examples of a few innocent people to inspire fear of the law. In a pinch, a throwdown beer bottle could have justified killing Virkula's wife and kids as well.
But what about the dog?
Even that is an exaggeration. What Miller ruled, rather, was at the record contained no assertion nor evidence that a sought-off shotgun had military usefulness.
And if I'm not mistaken, the decision was actually a remand, rendered moot because of the Miller's unhelpful act of dying, so at least hypothetically it could have been sent all the way back to the trial court to develop new evidence.
" It is "beyond cavil," the 2nd Circuit noted, that a state's interest in "public safety and crime prevention" is compelling."
beyond cavil is a way of dismissing an argument as silly, trivial, or nitpicking. 20% of the guns being sold (none in NY, apparently) is not "trivial"
Aside: I've never heard the phrase "beyond cavil" before, it was interesting to track it down.
Aside #2: So "John Cavil" (One in Battlestar Galactica) is annoying, trivial and nitpicking.... good name choice! Just wish it weren't quite so esoteric. Now I"m going to have to start looking up the significance of the other 11 models (and other characters - Adama = Earth in Hebrew; good name for a Tauron!).
Caprica was also an excellent prequel to Battlestar.
We see that the humans have fallen away to worship many gods.
it is Gods’ second creation, the Cylons, who join the worship of the one god.
Did you look up Cylons, The followers of a man named Cylon?
They were cursed with a miasma which followed their descendants through the generations who are cursed as well.
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So 24.6 million people have owned up to 44 million AR 15 or similar rifles.
And how many of these have been used to commit “mayhem?”
I cannot wait for Sullum to wake up some morning and flash on the convenient malapropism serving as a stalking horse. Adjectival "assault" weapons deliver to understanders of Latin-derived languages the notion of banning "holdup" weapons. But Nixon signed SALT 1 to end our Second-Amendment rights to defend against incoming nuclear attacks on 26MAY72. The crime was unrecognized until August 1984. So to this day enemies of the Bill of Rights pine for a ban on SALT weapons, so "we" can surrender to communism and end arms racism.
Anyone trying to reduce casualties from firearms who is also focusing more on any tool other than handguns is just playing political and security theater.
Bans against concealed weapons and handguns existed in 1800s US at city, county, and state levels.
Bans don’t work, and most often make things worse. Look no further than bans on alcohol, marriage, sex, abortion, marijuana, and voting.
Focus on restrictions. Don’t restrict rifles with pistol grips; restrict pistol grips. Don’t restrict detachable magazines; restrict magazines.
For every person in America killed BY ANY RIFLE, the medical community has killed 15 due to MEDICAL MISTAKES and injured God knows how many millions.
When do the doctor and nurse bans go into effect?
And what about the totalitarians in deep south states that don't want people to have control over their own bodies? Maybe we should drag all the hicks out of these deep red state houses. Overthrow the christian fascist regimes that control half the country. Then maybe take care of the totalitarian majority on the supreme court too.
You misspelled responsibility.
"Overthrow the Christian fascist regimes that control half the country."
First, there are no Christian Fascists regimes in the deep south.
Second, get with both of your friends and come on down and give it a try.
They can do what the all the totalitarians in the Country had to do to e.g. end slavery or give women the unified right to vote - pass a constitutional amendment. Until then the 10th makes 'totalitarians' of us all!
I don't believe it's just southerners who oppose losing their jobs and other freedoms for refusing government mandated injections.
The Court ruled that the Federal Government has no authority to make rules regarding abortion.
Totalitarians want centralized authorities to have direct and total control over the lives of individuals to the maximum possible extent.
Federally imposed Covid Vax mandates (especially mandates enacted directly by the decree of the Chief Executive without approval or input from the legislature) are far more totalitarian in their nature than turning over authority to lower and more local levels of government to decide as they choose. Beyond that, mandating that every individual receive a vaccination regardless of "natural" immunity protection (when data collected worldwide and suppressed by government agencies in the USA showed that natural protection is equal or superior to vax protection) is not only anti-science, but is a far more extensive violation of "bodily autonomy".
I don't support bans on abortion, or any other medical treatment/procedure which could be necessary to preserve a life at some point (I also don't personally believe that a fetus which couldn't survive outside the womb constitutes a "human life" at that stage of development), but I do believe that words have meanings for a reason and I don't know many leftists who have any interest in application of their "principle" of bodily autonomy to questions of tobacco use, vaccine hesitancy (as of Fall 2020, anyway), vaping, soda portion sizes, salt/sugar intake or any issue other than abortion.
Do unborn babies have bodies?
Prohibiting abortions is constitutional.
Interfering with gun ownership is not constitutional.
If you actually “loved the constitution”, you’d understand that.
Weren't you the gimmick poster who was pro-Trump in 2020?
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Takes two to tango.
Like he has any friends.
If he did, they would all be pussies who have to hide behind government, just like him.
The genuine court ruled that States cannot send men with guns to threaten and kill doctors and pregnant women before the King's X suggested by the 1972 LP platform. The repeal of State initiation of deadly force to coerce individual women as though they were slaves before the 13th Amendment was ratified is the heart of the Roe decision. The sitting Trumpista Suprema Corte lynch mob is celebrating the death of the rights-respecting Jew and the Tea Party Anschluss to neutralize any Libertarian opposition to renewed Kkkristianizing slave-catching vigilanteism.
Firing people over government-prohibited injections is an old, established, superstitious, pseudoscientific tradition bought and paid-for in current jurisprudence and subsidized by asset-forfeiture looting every hour of every day. So cry some more...
I’m sorry you don’t understand the difference between force and prohibition. Prohibition has a long history upheld by by the courts and law enforcement—see Whiskey Rebellion. Prohibition is also used in employment. I’m also sorry if you don’t think private entities can set standards for the people who choose to work for them. Wow, you have such un-libertarian views.
Forced participation is relatively new.
“The genuine court”
Or, put more accurately, the court with whom you agree. The intellectual dishonesty it takes to make such a statement is astounding. “The court is only legitimate if it rules in my favor.”
Federal Prohibitions on abortions are unconstitutional because it violates the 9th and 10th Amendments.
If you cared about the US Constitution, you’d know that.
So interfering with child porn is not constitutional? Weird.
Keep in mind, the constitution doesn't list all your rights. For example, the right to travel.
Also, the constitution doesn't guarantee your right to vote either!
Neither gay marriage, or a blow job. Or interracial marriage.
Separate but equal seems OK!
“The court is only legitimate if it rules in my favor.”
Uhm, when has that ever been different for anyone?
Atoms have "bodies".... corpses have "bodies" as well. So do animals in the animal shelter ("Each year, approximately 2.7 million animals are euthanized (1.4 million cats)")
Oh, to be valuable it has to be "human" body. Well, people do body modifications all the time - from breast augmentation to circumcision - much of that means killing something that is human.
Oh wait, to be valuable it has to be a complete "human" - and of course not be on death row or born in a country that we are dropping bombs on..... or born in a country that is poor and experiencing hunger ("Each day, 25,000 people, including more than 10,000 children, die from hunger and related causes")
But instead, we have decided that we get to decide FOR women, irregardless of circumstances what they can and cannot do with their body.
If a fetus has minimal brain stem and is not viable, does a woman have to carry it to term? Why?
More importantly, why should I have any say whatsoever in the decision making process?
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Sorry, you’re wrong.
The Constitution defines the powers of the federal government and places a few restrictions on states. Most of your rights and obligations are defined by state constitutions and laws. Crime is mostly a state matter. States must guarantee equality under the law and the right to bear arms.
So, again, the Constitution guarantees a right to bear arms, it does not guarantee a right to an abortion; that is up to the states.