Nukes and Natural Gas Are 'Green,' Votes E.U. Parliament
"It's an outrageous outcome to label gas and nuclear as green," responds Greenpeace

Nuclear power and natural gas are "green" and "climate-friendly" sources of electricity generation, sensibly voted a majority of the European Union's Parliament today. This resolution means that investors in energy projects can classify their investments in nuclear and natural gas projects as environmentally sustainable under the the European Union's new taxonomy regulations.
The vote was immediately denounced by a variety of environmental activists. For example, Swedish teenage climate scold Greta Thunberg tweeted, "The European Parliament just voted to label fossil gas as 'green' energy. This will delay a desperately needed real sustainable transition." Similarly, Greenpeace's E.U. sustainable finance campaigner Ariadna Rodrigo in a statement declared, "It's dirty politics and it's an outrageous outcome to label gas and nuclear as green." She vowed that her group "will fight this in the courts."
First, let's consider natural gas. Global known reserves of natural gas would last nearly 50 years at current rates of consumption. Burning natural gas to generate electricity emits about half of the carbon dioxide that coal does. This is why many environmental activist groups a little more than a decade ago hailed natural gas as "the bridge to the clean energy future."
In fact, the mostly market-driven switch from coal to natural gas to generate electricity in the U.S. has served as a bridge to a cleaner energy future. The replacement in the U.S. of coal-fired power plants by those fueled by natural gas is responsible for a 32 percent reduction since 2005 in carbon dioxide emissions from that sector. Overall, annual U.S. carbon dioxide emissions have fallen by around 23 percent since 2005. Despite the undeniable role that the switch from coal to natural gas has played in significantly reducing U.S. carbon dioxide emissions, many environmental activists now perplexingly denounce natural gas as a "bridge to nowhere."
Of course, Russia's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine has massively disrupted global markets for natural gas. However, the international credit rating agency Fitch Ratings projects that the global average price of natural gas will decline significantly over the next couple of years.
What about nuclear power? The fact that splitting atoms to generate electricity produces no greenhouse gas emissions should be enough to establish nuclear power as a "climate-friendly" energy technology. Last week, the International Energy Agency released a report arguing that global nuclear power capacity needs to double from 413 gigawatts now to 812 gigawatts by 2050 in order to meet greenhouse gas emissions targets set in international agreements addressing the problem of man-made climate change. Meanwhile, in response to pressure from environmental activists, Germany is going in the opposite direction, shutting down perfectly good nuclear power plants while firing up electricity generation fueled by coal.
The ecomodernist Breakthrough Institute has just released a new study setting out various scenarios of how the development and deployment of advanced nuclear reactors in the U.S. could unfold over the next 30 years. In the optimistic scenario, U.S. nuclear power generation capacity would rise from 95 gigawatts from conventional nuclear plants today to as much as 470 gigawatts generated by advanced reactors in 2050. Expanding nuclear power production would both help smooth out the intermittency of wind and solar generation and further cut climate-warming greenhouse gas emissions.
Disclosure: I have had the pleasure of attending several Breakthrough Dialogues and participating in discussions where I made the case that supporters of free markets are natural ecomodernists.
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"Swedish teenage climate scold Greta Thunberg tweeted..."
And nobody gave a fuck what the Swedish potato thought about anything.
Why the fuck do people listen to this obvious mouthpiece?
I mean, she's never done anything. She's not old enough to have made any contribution to science or the arts or world culture. She, literally, was placed in a position and told what to say by propagandists.
Yet I still keep hearing her name.
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She is the prime example of the weaponized neuroticism and learned helplessness the progressives have nurtured in the younger generations.
What did Ted McGillycutty of 117 North Birchwood Lane, North Platte, NE have to say about it?
Ted McGillycutty of North Platte, NE awoke to a rioting mob of environmental activists on his front lawn this morning...
She's the real expert, don't you know?
"Expert", combining "X" from the Greek for unknown, and "spurt", a little drip under pressure.
That's "ex" as in has-been.
When did CNN loose interest in Greta Thornburg?
When she turned 18
oh.... SNAP!
😉
I thought that was turd.
Let the Greenie Watermelons protest in the dark by lamp light from whale blubber!
Anyone serious about climate change who is still bad talking nukes is just plain delusional. Natural gas may be a stop gap, but nuclear energy is the only way to go and still keep our civilization and have it carbon neutral too.
This is like a no brainer.
Yeah, if you think CO2 emissions are something to be very worried about and are opposed to nuclear, you can't be taken seriously.
Completely agree
"Yeah, if you think CO2 emissions are something to be very worried about, you can't be taken seriously."
Fixed.
1,000,000 up votes.
How much carbon is ideal for the atmosphere?
How much of a percentage should it make up?
Eat a bullet, totalitarian piece of shit.
Q: What is a bullet shot by a Nardz?
A : dum dum from a dumb one.
That's... not well played.
But since you're here, tell us how many ppm you'd like Co2 to be in the atmosphere, and your preferred ratio of atmospheric Co2
The innumeracy is strong in this one.
Is he suffering from lower case oxygen deprivation, dicobalt toxicosis ?
LOL
What a pathetic dodge attempt.
You know Putin is putting a lot of Carbon in the air in Ukraine and so far has no plans to bring nuclear power to the Russians he claims to love over there.
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FYI, if you were watching any of the alt-right-russian-shill-pro-putin analysis and avoided the WaPO, the NYT and CNN like the fucking plague, you KNEW this was coming. You knew this was coming, just like you knew there was going to be a MASSIVE trucker protest in downtown Ottawa three weeks before it happened.
They sanctioned themselves into a corner and they don't want to freeze themselves to death come winter.
As I like to quip to people who act surprised about this kind of stuff: Yeah, you weren't aware of this because you watch the news.
No surprise at all; with Europe's reckless dependence on Russian gas, it's not like they really have much of a choice.
And yet there are always those who would be very content to let others freeze or starve in the service of their ideals.
The greens are content to let others freeze and starve, but I think the EU parliament at large isn't so keen on that. I mean, they're content with it, but they know what the consequences will be.
Until now, the EU parliament was more interested in UV exposure on the boobs of british barmaids.
Hey Bubba Jones: you're an idiot, and everyone has muted you. You appear as nothing more than a grey box.
agree
I don't think you need to watch the news to recognize that shutting down your local energy production will make you more reliant on imports.
Nor is it rocket science to recognize that nukes don't release CO2.
This is actually a win-win in my book. Make yourself less reliant on hostile sources of fuel, while also reducing carbon output.
How much do you want to reduce carbon output?
Tell us what ppm you're aiming for, and what % of the atmosphere you want to be composed of Co2.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/07/06/german-chancellor-olaf-scholz-proactively-blames-russia-for-pending-global-food-shortage/
Greenpeace - “Any plan that has a chance to work is completely unacceptable!!!!”
How have they not been disqualified from being listened to?
I listen to the founder of green peace
https://co2coalition.org/news/dr-patrick-moore-the-positive-impact-of-human-co₂-emissions-on-the-survival-of-life-on-earth/
Just one more in the long list of organizations begun by realistic people with reasonable goals that was corrupted and taken over by Marxists.
They don't like NG and nuclear because the average person doesn't suffer enough when they are used.
Nuclear power is environmentally friendly. Natural gas is not. This is what happens when politicians try to play scientist.
Natural gas is a huge improvement over coal. And it's available *today*.
If these morans were serious they'd replace all the coal with natural gas today, while building nukes for tomorrow.
Meanwhile don't shut down the nukes you already have.
But they're not serious.
Unless of course you are a Soviet citizen and were misfortunate enough to live any where downwind of Chernobyl.
Which only stipulates that nuclear power, while our best "environmentally friendly" alternative, should not be left to authoritarians who care more about their standing in the system than anyone's well being.
Three Mile Isle should be a lesson in how SAFE nuclear power has become.
Kyiv is downwind and downriver from Chernobyl. Totalitarian assholes will always be a much greater threat to life than nuclear accidents.
Did it melt down again?
Zelensky assured us it was about to melt down again because of russiamanbad
Chernobyl didn't have protection around the core. That was the big problem there. That plus Totalitarians who admit no error and didn't care about individual lives made for disaster.
Look at the scientist here. Next you're gonna say you can tell me what a woman is, right?
Oh, cool, I like this approach. We didn't know if it was true, so we decided to have a vote on it. And then after the vote, we declare it was true. We should always vote on the truth.
Tomorrow, we're having a vote on the Dark Matter explanation of the Theory of Relativity, and we're going to accept the results as absolutely true.
Well, since "green" doesn't really mean anything, they are really just voting on the definition of "green".
Global warming is our greatest crisis.
Unless it's not.
vote was required on what is known?
If the problem is C02 produced by gird scale power, nuclear isn't the best solution, it's the only solution.
global nuclear power capacity needs to double from 413 gigawatts now to 812 gigawatts
Nobody needs more than 1.21 gigawatts.
For Bernie's Hoveround maybe.
Enough trying to indulge the energy purists. Life itself is a compromise. And we had better learn to compromise if we are to fight climate change at scale. Lofty ideals will not get us there — practical solutions will.
The bottom line is we need nuclear to fight climate change. Aside from making abundant carbon free electricity, nuclear plants can also make abundant carbon free hydrogen. Solar and wind cannot match this — not now and not tomorrow.
Enough posturing. We need to move forward fast. Running out of time.
How much climate change do you want?
Give us some concrete figures.
Start with Co2 ppm if you'd like.
Tell us what is ideal.
6
That would do a pretty good job of killing off most, if not all, life on earth
None, actually.
The climatic variability climatic status quo is scary enough without horsing it around for the hell of it.
So how many ppm Co2 do you think is not scary?
Any more ppm than we've got, which is a third more than than the founding fathers breathed.
Mental performance starts to deteriorate well below the CO2 level in exhaled human breath. An early warning sign is forgetting that the oxygen in carbon dioxide is upper case.
The state of California commends using higher concentrations to euthanize lab rats .
Well, this faggot, entelechy, clearly has no clue what he's talking about.
The piece of shit will preach its idiotic faith at you and take your freedoms though.
Sacrifice yourself to Gaia, because your breathing provides no value.
C'mon, Greenies- yall say atmospheric Co2 is an apocalyptic problem.
So come with some numbers.
Tells us what they should be.
If you can't come with specific metrics, it might be because you're full of shit and simply regurgitating vague fears based on nothing more than cultish groupthink.
You mean like your Groupthink for Putin?
Sure and it's the CO2 narcosis talking- give the poor fellow some fresh air.
The fix was in months ago when the French and Germans proposed this. The Spanish government was whining about it then. Meanwhile Spain has four functioning nuke plants and plans on shutting them all down. Soon.
Nuclear is better than natural gas. Lots of leakage of methane for natural gas, which is still better than coal.