Should Women Delete Their Period Tracker Apps in the Wake of Dobbs?
Grappling with surveillance implications of Roe being overturned

In the wake of the Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization ruling handed down by the Supreme Court on Friday, overturning nearly 50 years of abortion precedent established by Roe v. Wade (1973) and Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992), people took to the internet to voice concerns about ways the state may crack down on women who seek abortions and suggest preemptive steps women of childbearing age ought to take to ensure they won't become prosecutorial targets.
Some women who live in safely blue states shared posts on social media indicating they'd host abortion seekers coming from red states on their couches or mail people abortion pills. People concerned about liability due to snitch laws like those established in Texas (and possibly soon mimicked by GOP copycats in Arizona) quickly reminded those women that this could theoretically allow prosecutors to go after them for aiding and abetting abortions. Instagram and Facebook began removing posts that explicitly offered illicit abortion pills. And many people spread word that period tracking apps are no longer safe for women to use if they're living in one of the 26 states that either have outlawed or will soon be outlawing abortion:
Delete your period tracking apps today.
— Jessica Khoury (@jkbibliophile) June 24, 2022
Women: delete your period tracking app
Men: download a period tracking app
— Mueller, She Wrote (@MuellerSheWrote) June 27, 2022
https://twitter.com/ECMcLaughlin/status/1521467912162226176
https://twitter.com/roxiqt/status/1540352338996641797?s=20&t=CQXbC-LoM6m0G3nv4m3BHw
Though understandable, these calls to action have been poorly thought through. If you're concerned about a surveillance state newly empowered to snoop through your personal information to possibly prosecute you for procuring an illegal abortion, privacy measures must be much more thorough than merely deleting a period tracking app.
For one, the dangers posed by the data kept by period tracking apps may be overstated. These apps function based on the user proactively logging the days they menstruate and predicting fertile windows accordingly. Though they do provide information about a woman's cycle, a woman who has encountered a missed period, fearing she may be pregnant, could always log a fake period as a security mechanism to give herself cover.
But beyond that, it's really not period tracker app data that prosecutors would theoretically seek if attempting to throw people in jail or prison for illegal abortion procurement. Unencrypted messages detailing plans to seek an abortion or confirmation that one is pregnant; phone calls to abortion clinics; search history; purchasing history; location data confirming a person's physical location at a surreptitiously operating clinic—these are the pieces of a person's digital footprint that prosecutors are most likely to look for.
"My hope is that people will shoot for something other than maximum cruelty" when enforcing abortion laws, Andrew Fleischman, a criminal appeals attorney, tells Reason.
"[State prosecutors] could get a search warrant for a suspected abortion and check what's in your phone, but it won't be the period app at that point, probably text messages, calls to clinics, social media, that stuff," he confirms.
"I don't think states have the resources to like, check your app," yet, though Fleischman adds that period tracker apps could always voluntarily choose to turn over data when faced with legal scrutiny. He notes that the competence of such prosecutors is perhaps overstated, adding that "state prosecutors can't even get Facebook DMs half the time."
In the wake of such concerns that some tracker apps will cooperate with prosecutors and hand over data, some activists have suggested ostensibly more secure apps, like Stardust and Clue, which have committed to data privacy measures. But, if more-secure apps are based in the U.S., they could still theoretically be forced to hand over data through subpoenas. (Clue is based in Europe and is likely more secure than astrology-focused Stardust, which is vague about how cooperative it will be if government entities attempt to forcibly collect users' health information.)
"In addition to facilitating prosecutions of pregnant people for intentionally terminating their pregnancies, technology will also enhance the government's ability to surveille [sic], investigate, and prosecute pregnant people who did not seek to terminate but whom the state seeks control over by virtue of their pregnancy status," writes civil rights attorney Cynthia Conti-Cook in a 2020 University of Baltimore Law Review article. "For example, pregnant people's decisions—to self-medicate, to not medicate, to seek substance abuse treatment, to drink alcohol, or smoke cigarettes—are all decisions that could be criminalized and potentially surveilled digitally." This is all too true in an era where prosecutors may be more frequently looking into pregnancies, seeking evidence of chemical endangerment or suspected abortion.
"Many criminal prosecutions that would have stalled without digital evidence resulted in convictions either at trial or in plea bargaining because the digital evidence completed the picture of the accused's involvement, state of mind, or intent," adds Conti-Cook.
It's not that a pregnant woman's digital footprint can't or won't be used against her; the problem is instead that some activists have rushed to focus on less likely culprits when women concerned about surveillance should actually be taking a much more expansive approach to hiding their digital footprints from agents of the state.
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These people are fucked in the head.
Reason writers, blue checkmarks or the Moloch cultists celebrating child sacrifice and currently throwing a temper tantrum that people might be allowed to choose the rules they live under? Who am I kidding, they're all subsets of the same evil group.
Childishly superstitious, misogynistic, on-the-spectrum right-wingers are among my favorite culture war casualties.
They won.
Denial is the first step.
Roe is gone, fag marriage is probably next, and it's now a recognized constitutional right to carry a handgun for self-defense. Let me know when you get tired of "winning the culture war", you mewling quim.
Don't you have some actual, enumerated constitutional rights to trample on, commie?
Go back and read the Ninth Amendment, then research the history around it and the other enumerated rights.
Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
An argument so plainly stupid and ahistorical that the Roe court wouldn't even make it.
Bravo.
No, they want to choose the rules OTHER PEOPLE live under. If a woman doesn't want an abortion, she is perfectly free to follow that path. But if she wants to make rules for someone else, that's not what a free society looks like. Just because a majority (mob) decides on a rule, doesn't obligate those who disagree to accept it. If an action does not violate the rights of another individual, you have no legitimate voice about that action.
Thry're out of their cotton pickin' minds.
Should Women Delete Their Period Tracker Apps
Yes you dumb bitch. And the next time you consider just handing over your personal or medical information to some corporation, remember that it means the government will have that information and there's nothing you'll be able to do about it.
Lmfao, no fucking shit. It's nice to see Reason finally find the one use case where surveillance capitalism isn't an unalloyed supreme good.
I feel like one could whip up a tracking app like this that doesn't have any non-local storage pretty quickly. I guess that might just be keeping a notebook, but even with a phone it seems like an easy problem for someone to fix.
Shit, if Dobbs being overturned leads folks to become MORE security minded that would be such an amazing and unexpected outcome for me.
*Roe being overturned. Not Dobbs.
I feel like one could whip up a tracking app like this that doesn't have any non-local storage pretty quickly
Probably in an hour, but where's the money in that?
Exactly. I mean, not an hour. I'd have to test it and submit it to the app store and all that. Probably need to learn how they pick ovulation windows and the like, not owning a uterus m'self.
But I could have you an MVP by the 4th of July I bet. And a GOOD one within a few months of iterations, if I had an active customer base. All for very little time invested.
And it would make me zero dollars and I am up to my eyeballs in alligators in my paying job so fuck that. If I'm going to code, I'm going to do it for someone who pays me. But if an activist really wants to solve the data tracking issue, I'm sure a few grand to hire any decent Java programmer and they'd be good to go.
Well, need to write it in Swift for iphones.
Women used to do this with a pencil and a calendar on the wall.
But they didn't get timely app notfication from Amazon about their great new organic cotton tampons, available for monthly delivery with Prime.
Tindr, Grindr, Facebook, Twitter...
Hell, anything that has Google somewhere in it.
"Should Women Delete Their Period Tracker Apps in the Wake of Dobbs?"
If they're adject morons or reporters on a deadline, sure. Go ahead.
Paranoia runs deep.
Into your phone it will creep.
Who the hell needs a period tracker app?
Male birthing persons?
Everybody! Because let's face it, there's really no other way to tell when a woman is getting her period.
People who want to track their cycle. It helps build up over time so folks have a better guess of where they are in their fertility cycle. I had actually not really thought of people using it for birth control in this way, since everyone I know who has done this were women having trouble conceiving. Using these trackers to understand where they are in their cycles can help them as they try to have a baby.
Though, I don't really care why people use it. Some dude could use it to double extra confirm that he's never had a period yet for all I care.
It's useful for planning. Especially for vacations and out of town trips for women with bad periods. You don't want the Mrs to be feeling down and out of commission for most of your Caribbean holiday.
"And many people spread word that period tracking apps are no longer safe for women to use if they're living in one of the 26 states that either have outlawed or will soon be outlawing abortion"
"Idiots on Facebook" is a story now.
Nice.
Though I might support abortion for them. Don't need people THAT stupid reproducing.
The data from the apps wouldn’t lead to prosecutions under the Texas snitch law because that law doesn’t involve prosecutors. That was the twist in its design to try to dodge Roe. The law empowers private citizens to sue abortion providers. I think nobody but doctors would be exposed, and private citizens wouldn’t be able to get at the app data anyway.
This is just part of the hysteria surrounding this decision.
I see nothing but leftists saying things that didn't happen are. It's worse than the "don't say gay" nonsense.
I'm already offering to send abortion pills by mail to any women or girl that wants them. But I'm not the only one, millions of pro choice people like me that live in rational states are doing the same thing.
Congratulations rednecks you will stop 0.0% of abortions from actually being performed.
Hey why don't you send birth control pills and a pamphlet of how babies are made?
Abortions in Texas already decreased 60% in the last year. You commies are so great at knowing reality.
Enjoy your "rational" states with "common sense" gun laws that do nothing but empower criminals.
if it was already on your phone China has you mapped.
Also baffled that women think impregnation is only possible on certain days,
Certain days certainly increase the odds...but you can pregnant at any time.
Reeeeeeeee!!!!
Wow. Just wow.
Lawl. These people only discover the value of privacy when it smashes one of their idols.
Can the writer of this take abort herself?
Should Women Delete Their Period Tracker Apps in the Wake of Dobbs?
Grappling with surveillance implications of Roe being overturned
Umm, if you're wondering if you should remove your period-tracker app because of the potential for surveillance now that Roe V Wade was overturned, you never should have downloaded the period-tracker app.
Never should have been given use of a fork.
Understatement of the millennium.
Man, I really don't like what Liz describes as "Snitch Laws" for a few reasons, but man that article she links to from the Arizona Republic is a frustrating one.
The potential for surveillance has not changed.
After all, the apps are from private companies, right?
The level of crazy/stupid here is amazing. If "but I might want to get an illegal late term abortion at some point" is the reason you don't want an app to have access to your data..well... Damn.
But beyond that, if you use a modern cell phone and credit cards. They already know all about you. More than you do.
But beyond that. Let's talk about the base assumption here. Why would you track your period?
The most useful reason would be if you were trying to get pregnant and you wanted to maximize your chances. Lots of couples start late these days and need to do that sort of thing.
The other reason is as a method of birth control. Now, the rhythm method is as old as society. People have been using it forever. And they have been getting pregnant that way forever. Which is probably why it is coupled with abortion fear.
So if your method of birth control is rhythm method with abortion as a backup, step one is not deleting an app. It is getting a more effective and responsible method of birth control.
A third reason I've seen is just to have solid data so women can plan around it. They have a reasonable idea when their period will be, and thus can plan things like vacations or other events to avoid it if possible.
If you are that dialed in.... You probably don't need an app.
When she was younger, my wife varied from 25 to 29 days on her cycle. I knew it better than her... Gotta know whether to argue or just say "yes dear".
No way an app could have accurately projected her more than 2 months out.... And you wouldn't need an app for that.
If you have a bad period, it can be debilitating.
My wife and I literally planned our wedding so that she wouldn't be on her period during the ceremony. We got out the calendar and counted the weeks so she wouldn't have that problem.
Will the period tracker data be monitored by the Sex Police?
Also, according to retard Jeff, gay men in Texas better delete their Grindr apps.
The fear mongering is in full swing.
Gotta fund raise for November!
Just curious how it works. You stick your phone between your legs and it senses temperature? That would be bizarre.
How about one better: END all government surveillance, tracking, record hoarding, etc without a WARRANT naming the item to be found, and where it is to be searched for, and then ONLY upon sworn affidavit or testimony before that same court providing specific information as to the wrong alledged to be committed, and testimony as to the nature of the offence. Carrying information on my phone does not make it "availble" toFedGov or any other government or public entity. MINE< hands off, UNTIL you have a warrant as described above.
The scanning of geolocation data by FedGov for nearly all the 6 Jan detainees was a clear violation. They scaned millions of records and narrowed it down to those they thought they could indict.
There is something to be said for "burner phones", farraday cages, etc.
Lol hoes mad.
Needless paranoia.
If you don't want your data tracked, don't enable network access for that app. Or look for an app that uses local data storage only.
There is no particular reason that a period tracker needs to store data in the cloud or a central DB. It would be cheaper to store the data on the user's phone. The exception would be for data-mining purposes, such as selling fertility, contraception, or baby products to the user. Even that doesn't require saving ongoing data -- just downloading the app is sufficient.
The police are already inundated with alarms from every cat tripping a motion sensor and person who can't figure out the buttons on their alarm system. Do you really think they would go through every period tracker app to find every woman who missed a period due to stress, illness, menopause, funky genetics, miscarriage, or simply forgetting to put it in? That last one is a big one.
At least I could understand the "they would investigate every miscarriage" panic. That had a rational starting point. This assumes infinite police resources and infinite police vindictiveness.
You perhaps have not heard of Cluster B Personality Disorders, or how they disproportionately affect women. Disorders in the group include
Histrionic Personality Disorder
And
Narcissistic Personality Disorder
So perhaps now you see how such otherwise questionable assumptions about police resources and priorities become obvious eventualities.
Hmmm, how about the jizz-bunnies be more selective about who they screw?
Abortion as birth control has always been a seriously stupid argument.
Ummmm this is rich coming from a group who was ok with Covid tracking and probably has the tracker set up already in their phone. Plus ok with divulging the personal information of any and all friends or acquaintances they were in contact with to random strangers calling them to question them about this stuff. This was happening way before Covid but Covid and the additional billions in funding allocated to it made its application much broader and way more invasive.
Be careful what you wish for…
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I seriously wish all the leftist fake Libertarians would leave the party.