Saudi Prince's Plan for 'Walkable' City of Single-File Buildings Could Be Two Miles-Long Skyscrapers Instead
The idea is exactly as dumb as it sounds.

Saudi Arabia's plan to build a linear city stretching out into the middle of the desert has perhaps gotten even dumber.
On Tuesday, Bloomberg reported that the kingdom's The Line project—a proposed million-person, 170-kilometer-long city in the remote portion of the country's Tabuk province bordering the Red Sea—is getting a redesign. Instead of the initial concept of building a long single-file line of buildings connected by a high-speed train, several anonymous sources working on the project told Bloomberg the plan is now to build two parallel 1,600-foot-tall skyscrapers that will stretch for dozens of miles.
The Line is just one of several components of the Neom project, the $500 billion endeavor spearheaded by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman to turn a sparsely inhabited part of the country into a world-class financial, tourism, and tech hub.
Salman has described The Line as a utopian attempt to liberate city dwellers from long car commutes and all the pollution and traffic deaths that come with them. Instead, it would be an ultra-walkable paradise where all essential services would be a five-minute jaunt away and the longest intracity trip wouldn't exceed 20 minutes.
"We need to transform the concept of a conventional city into that of a futuristic one," he said in January 2021 when The Line was first unveiled, describing it as a city "with zero cars, zero streets and zero carbon emissions."
It all sounds pretty great.
But if history and free market urban theory are any guide, the city will be a dismal, expensive failure. Utopian projects to design new cities on virgin land rarely succeed.
"The trouble is: Who wants to be first?" Alain Bertaud, a senior research scholar at NYU's Marron Institute of Urban Management, told CityLab back in April.
"New city projects often start by highlighting their nice infrastructure," he said, specifically referencing Neom as an example. "But nobody will move to a city with a good sewer system but no jobs. Historically, infrastructure follows the market, not the other way around."
In short, people don't really want to move to places where there's nothing for them to do.
Rather, cities are labor markets that primarily exist to connect lots of workers with lots of places to work. The upshot of that intense intermingling of capital and labor is that new ideas can spread more quickly and production can become more specialized than if those urban workers and firms were distributed across smaller communities.
These "agglomeration" effects explain why cities, once they get started, tend to grow and attract more people—even though that growth brings with it congestion, pollution, and other problems of urban living The Line is supposed to cure.
The trouble is that agglomeration is hard to kickstart. Some marriage of geography, resources, and preexisting industry is usually needed to get things going.
Most of the wholly invented cities that have stuck around are new national capitals like Washington, D.C., Canberra, or Brasilia, which bring their own initial job market of bureaucrats and politicos with them. Even then, they tend to survive in spite of the elaborate urban planning that went into trying to make them look a certain way.
This brings us to the second problem with Saudi Arabia's The Line: It's a big long line.
No other city in the world is shaped like that, and for good reason.
The agglomerative effects that cities thrive on can only happen when businesses and workers can cluster together or reach each other within reasonable travel times. This is why cities in capitalist countries all have a similar development pattern: an ultra-dense urban core surrounded by lower-and lower-density neighborhoods radiating outward.
The central city is in the most demand because it has the quickest access to the rest of the urban area. That demand pushes up land prices, which developers respond to by building taller buildings that use less land. As you move outward, access to the rest of the city gets harder, demand and land prices fall, and densities start to fall with them.
This "density gradient" is a constant observable fact in all but the most regulated urban areas in the world.
The Line, at best, would have an incredibly inefficient version of this density gradient.
One could imagine a dense center on the line where homes and businesses are in the most demand, with lower-density wings on either side. But if there is such demand for living or working in the center of the line to justify that densities are that high, that would imply there's also demand for living or working immediately above or below the center of this linear city. But the whole design requires that that land be left vacant.
The latest rumored design for The Line—two 1,600-foot-tall buildings stretching for miles—gets things even more mixed up by assuming demand for density would be nearly uniform across the line. But obviously, more people would rather live in the central parts of the building with quicker access to more locations, than on the edges where it will take a lot longer to reach a lot more stuff.
Lastly, The Line is an unworkable utopian idea because there will be no room for dynamism and change. It's dubious that the designers of the city will perfectly predict the best place to put every possible business or home. Even if they could, unique people with their own interests, needs, and desires moving around will change what's demanded where.
An influx of families into one part of The Line might generate a need for additional homes and schools and fewer pharmacies and nightclubs. If The Line sticks to its exquisite master plan, it will soon get overcrowded housing in one location and underutilized retail elsewhere.
Even comparatively far less planned American cities have suffered a version of this problem during and after the pandemic.
Low-density, residential-only zoning prevents apartments or commercial buildings from being added in suddenly high-demand suburbs, where prices are spiking. Meanwhile, dense downtowns have a glut of underutilized office space that zoning likewise prevents from being turned into retail or residential developments.
And American urban planning is practically anarchic compared to what is envisioned for The Line.
Of course, one doesn't need technical urban theory to understand why The Line is a dumb idea. Every pizza restaurant that sells radial pies rather than a long line of single slices is grasping a fundamental truth of geometry that has eluded the Saudi monarchy.
Preliminary construction work on The Line started in October. The first residents are expected to move there in 2024.
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open cathouses and saloons first.
Got a dream boy. Got a song. Paint your wagon, and come along.
the two-minute simpsons spoof on Paint Your Wagon is hilarious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM5-xFenaZI
The roads must roll!!!
"1,600-foot-tall skyscrapers"
And I hear they're LGBTQ friendly - the top floors of each skyscraper are reserved for gays.
Ok, this made me laugh.
Unobstructed view, I've heard. Way better than the shitty observation decks in America where you have to look through glass to see down.
I was actually thinking that it's pretty easy to get through a city in a scant few seconds-to-minutes with zero carbon emissions if you build it vertically and let gravity do the work.
Not in Saudi Arabia they aren't. The Saudis would either have to build a schimitar big enough to chop off their heads, a crane big enough to hang themz or an even bigger building to throw them off.
Yet another reason the Saudi regime should not be considered friends.
"an even bigger building to throw them off."
That's why Cal's joke was that LGBTBBQ would be on the top floor.
Everywhere walking distance if you have the time
-Steven wright
and a diving suit with enough oxygen.
-me
I have a package of instant water but I don't know what to add.
-Also Steven Wright.
"The Stones! The Stones! I've always loved them and I'm glad thry're back!...Fred and Barney!"
--Steven Wright, of course.
There are far too many "the line" jokes to relate the Saudis with Babylon 5
I think whoever designed this building did lines of powdered Lead...and the Saudis shared lines with the architect when they bought it.
Saudi Prince's Plan for 'Walkable' City of Single-File Buildings Could Be Two Miles-Long Skyscrapers Instead
The idea is exactly as dumb as it sounds.
You know who else's ideas for walkable cities are as dumb as they sound?
Did he have marchable cities?
This fucker needs to play some Factorio or Rimworld and understand how linearity is the sort of thing you build when you are first starting out, and don't understand complexity. Then you figure out that such constraints cause reverse flow and your line all of a sudden turns into a bottleneck. Oh Prince, oh Prince, tell me your steam account name and I'll send you $50 worth of architect games and save you half a trillion dollars.
Last architect game I put any time into was Roller Coaster Tycoon, and you HAD to start out linear. One path with a lake on each side.
Otherwise how could you get all your little dudes jammed into one narrow path and then run a roller coaster car through them all?
Yeah this seems like a monumental waste of money.
Where's the abattoir where his goons are going to murder journalists on his orders?
-jcr
You mean Qatari agents.
It was murder, but it wasn't of a journalist
Commenting on Reason.
Maybe after Saudi Arabia moves out of the 9th century.
That's not going to happen until we end the petroleum economy. When Arabs have to develop a real economy, the system where the Sauds get all the money and dole it out to the proles to control them blows away.
-jcr
Or when we replace their petroleum economy with ours, i.e. by means of "Drill, Baby, Drill! " once again.
<blockquote.Instead, it would be an ultra-walkable paradise where all essential services would be a five-minute jaunt away and the longest intracity trip wouldn't exceed 20 minutes
For those of you that live in the big city - how far away are essential services now?
IME, Phoenix, Tucson, San Diego, LA - its about 5-10 minutes right now. In that radius there will be a couple supermarkets and many, many, many restaurants, churches, movie theaters, etc.
You might have to travel *up to 20-30 minutes* to get to the mall. But you don't do that every day anyway.
And here's what I don't get about these people with a 'walkability' fetish - I've done it. There's nothing inherently good about having to go to *multiple small stores*, every day, to 'buy fresh ingredients' (they're not fresh and selection is always small) 'to cook dinner that night' when I come back to my tiny little apartment.
Places like that have to have a bunch of shit to do outside the home (and they never actually have anything to do beyond a local bar) because there's nothing you can do inside the home.
IME, Phoenix, Tucson, San Diego, LA - its about 5-10 minutes right now. In that radius there will be a couple supermarkets and many, many, many restaurants, churches, movie theaters, etc.
Saudi Prince Buys Into Michelle Obama's Propaganda, Pledges To Fix Food Deserts By Building Unworkable City In Actual Desert.
You would be surprised by how many people consider that a plus.
Horseshoe theory - extreme conservatism and extreme Progesivism both want extremely static cultures and structure.
In either case, the *control* of people is more important to them than those people's welfare.
Two more practical problems.
"with zero cars, zero streets" -- how ya gonna deliver anything -- subway? Helicopter?
A 170-kilometer-long linear city with high speed rail. Great from one end to the other. How many stops in the middle before you concede it is no longer high speed rail? When you want to go 10 km, do you have stations every 10 km, or do you have to transfer to increasingly local lines? How many people want to go shopping and lug their purchases 1 km once they get off the subway? You'll need last-km taxis, but oh wait, no cars, no streets.
You don't libertarian, do you? Drone, dude. Drone. Self-flying drone. Which will deliver the highly recyclable plastic and you'll pay in Bitcoin.
I guess "helicopter parenting" is passe. We've moved on to "drone parenting."
Zzzz.
Gee, no chance to call Joe Asshole's bullshit here?
What a shame.
Joe would remind you that he's a building expert and these new towers are not statist and brutalist like the old Soviet ones, or Pruitt-Igoe, and the *new* happydance public housing is very pretty townhomes that makes the neighborhood great and walkable (expect at night) and locality-friendly design.
Even though they still look like canned-design, public project housing. See:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6159239,-90.2033298,3a,75y,305.99h,90.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5_uG78mhsVsbV_HHal-X9A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
Joe would tell us that it being centrally planned, with the proper committees set up and the appropriate studies done, the finished product is sure to be an absolute work of genius.
"with zero cars, zero streets and zero carbon emissions."
It all sounds pretty great.
I don't get why this is so confusing to folks, a lot of people like driving. I love driving. I drive for fun. I go out and drive when I have nowhere to go. I know some people hate driving, maybe even a growing amount, but even if 60% of Americans hate driving, that still leaves 100 million plus people who don't.
You still have to get from a to b. And with no cars that means walking the last mile.
Even people who hate cars still want one for trips to the supermarket.
Even people who hate cars still want one for
trips to the supermarketfood liberty.Seriously. I like driving, I like walking, I carry heavy shit around for fun sometimes. The kids don't want to wait for me to walk to the store and carry whatever back. I don't want to walk to the store to pay for and carry pop-tarts, oreos, and twinkies. The call-response while unloading the groceries of "Why didn't you get me [item]?"/"I got you exactly what you asked for."/"Wait for [other parent] to go grocery shopping or walk, take money because I/we aren't paying for [item]" is an almost weekly occurrence.
Because what could be better than a 110 mile walk in 120 degree heat? This is simply - the most brilliant example of how to get people to not come to the desert. Try the Vegas model instead, they've got "the strip". It's hard to work an equal double entendre with "the line".
I was too generous with my previous assessments. Trump isn't a 12D chess master. He's a regular chess or checkers player *in a world of people who struggle with 1D thinking*.
I assume it won't work - but it is an interesting way of trying to deal with some serious constraints. Notably - water and solar.
That line has water desalination facilities in the Red Sea along one end - with a single pipeline able to take water much further into currently uninhabitable desert.
And the line is oriented to maximize the number of hours per day that any solar panel can collect. So a much smaller footprint of that stuff.
The high speed rail is serious speed - 500 km/hr - so 20 mins from one end of the line to the other. The parallel rail lines are all underground which adds to the cost but is still just one big tunnel.
And the line is oriented to maximize the number of hours per day that any solar panel can collect. So a much smaller footprint of that stuff.
Again I say, "Not a 12D chess genius, just a regular chess/checkers player opposed by people who struggle to be one dimensional."
"The high speed rail is serious speed - 500 km/hr - so 20 mins from one end of the line to the other." Only if there are no intermediate stops!
A practical commuter rail in a densely populated area - which is what this plan hopes to achieve in a linear city - must have stops no further than 5km apart. That's 36 stops in 180 km. 2 minutes per stop is 72 minutes sitting still, but the bigger problem is that the train cannot instantly accelerate to speed or stop instantly.
Assuming power and braking are applied to all wheels (rather than just the locomotive) and the wheel material gives much better traction than the steel on steel of conventional trains, a high speed train could accelerate and brake at 0.2g without shaking up the passengers much. The peak speed halfway between 5km stops would be 360km/hr (about 220 mph), the average speed is 180km/hr, and the time between stops is 100 seconds. The time end to end is now (120 * 100) sec * 36 stops = 7920 seconds or 2.2 hours.
Not too far off topic, since it is in the proximity of the Middle East, it involves another Islamofascist tyrant, and is definitely stupid:
Turkey rebrands and officially changes its name due to negative meaning
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/turkey-rebrands-officially-changes-name-27133638
Now, they'll have to change the dialogue in Airplane to: "Joey, have you ever...been in a Türkiye-ish prison?"
https://youtu.be/9E9ftsaHtWw