Biden Tiptoes Closer to Mass Forgiveness of Federal Student Loan Debt
Biden wants to forgive $10,000 in federal loan debt per borrower, regardless of whether they need it.

President Joe Biden is on the verge of announcing $10,000 in federal student loan forgiveness per borrower for millions of Americans, according to The Washington Post.
"The White House's latest plans called for limiting debt forgiveness to Americans who earned less than $150,000 in the previous year, or less than $300,000 for married couples filing jointly," write Post reporters Tyler Pager, Danielle Douglas-Gabriel, and Jeff Stein. Their sources did not say "whether the administration will simultaneously require interest and payments to resume at the end of August, when the current pause is scheduled to lapse."
Federal student loans have been frozen since March 2020. Since then, borrowers have not been required to make any payments, nor have their loans accrued interest, thanks to an executive order issued by President Donald Trump at the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic. The moratorium has also allowed participants in the Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF) program—which forgives federal direct loans after borrowers make 120 payments while working for a government agency or a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization—to count each month of the pandemic as a qualifying payment, even though they actually paid nothing.
The repayment moratorium was extended twice by Trump, and four times by Biden. Borrowers who first expected to resume payments in September 2020 are now looking to Biden's latest deadline of September 2022—a little more than a month before midterms.
Like the repayment moratorium, student debt cancellation is also a kicked can: In December 2020, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D–N.Y.) challenged Biden to unilaterally forgive $50,000 per borrower. "You don't need Congress," Schumer said. "All you need is the flick of a pen." Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.) has repeatedly called for the same. Shortly before his inauguration, however, Biden called on Congress to pass a law forgiving $10,000 worth of federal student loans per borrower. That never happened and will not happen before the midterms, when Democrats may lose their majority in Congress.
With the prospect of legislative forgiveness but a pipe dream, many progressives within and outside of Congress have insisted that Biden should use executive authority to forgive at least $50,000 per borrower, if not the entire $1.6 trillion student loan portfolio owned by the Department of Education. The $10,000 figure is simply unacceptable to most Democrats who want loan forgiveness.
The case against student loan forgiveness at this scale is that it primarily benefits educated people who don't need the help. Democrats know this. An analysis touted by Warren notes that $10,000 in forgiveness per person "zeroes out" out the federal loan balances of only 14 percent of borrowers who owe more after 12 years than they initially borrowed. This is why Warren wants $50,000 in debt forgiveness per borrower, except that payment would not only zero out the balances of 67 percent of borrowers who owe more after 12 years, but it would also reduce the number of indebted households in the top 10 percent of wealth from 4 percent to 3 percent.
In other words, any amount of blanket loan forgiveness will either not help truly distressed households enough or also help truly rich households; meanwhile, every figure proposed by Democrats helps some number of people who are financially better off having borrowed for college.
What about targeted student loan forgiveness programs, aimed at helping low-income borrowers who went to terrible schools or were defrauded? Well, we already have that. Billions of dollars worth, in fact. We also have the aforementioned PSLF program and income-driven repayment plans, which allow borrowers to pay a percentage of their adjusted gross income for 20 or 25 years, after which the balance is forgiven and the forgiven amount is treated as taxable income. The Biden administration has already expanded eligibility for both of these programs, and the Education Department is already actively working toward adjusting borrowers' accounts if they meet the relaxed criteria.
It makes a certain kind of political sense that once you help the very bottom (forgiveness for borrowers who attended shuttered schools) and the very top (PSLF for government and nonprofit workers, many of whom have advanced degrees), you should throw a bone to the comfortable-but-anxious middle quintiles.
That leads us to the question, soundness aside, of whether Biden can use executive authority to grant broad student loan forgiveness. Lawyers for the Department of Education under Secretary Betsy DeVos concluded last year that mass loan amnesty exceeded the statutory powers of the Education Department. A former Education Department lawyer under Obama wrote a private memo for a client this time last year arguing that mass loan forgiveness is illegal. Current Education Department lawyers, or their replacements, may have since reached a different conclusion. But as economist Carlo Salerno observed in The Hill this week, the White House refuses to publish the legal memo on loan forgiveness Biden had prepared last year.
Perhaps if Biden moves ahead with $10,000 in forgiveness per borrower, we'll also get to see the legal justification for putting every taxpayer in the country on the hook for erasing the federal student loan debt of not just the very poor, but also the upwardly mobile and even the upper crust.
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Except this will increase inflation.
It's just terrible. Those poor corporations will be overwhelmed by people attempting to purchase their products.
By wealthy people that just had their debt forgiven by the government.
You’re the OBL parody brought to life.
They do. Through the ensuing currency inflation.
If they do this, it should be amp,e justification for American Revolution 2.0.
Sounds like yet another "no cost" way to fertilize the voter base for the next ballot harvest! If only we were woke a decade ago or so we could have cut the red tape and jump right into deep inflation and mob rule without this agonizing drip drip drip...
Wait wait.... I thought that a "college degree" is/was the ticket to riches. Imagine how great your future will be with a degree in "_____ Studies"!, "_____ history"!, "_____ literature", .....
Anyone else notice that the conversations at most schools these days is "graduation rates" - no matter what the students are learning if anything.
Anyone else notice that those institutions the are supposed to teach how to run businesses better raise their rates faster than other businesses, i.e. woefully UNDER-ACHIEVE at showing how to do business better.
Oh well, the college sports programs are quite entertaining.
Bullshit degrees should not be eligible for student loans.
Ten grand per borrower really isn't a lot. That doesn't even cover a year of tuition at a state school.
It is a lot if you either didn't have such loans or have paid yours off and are paying for it.
I still owe about twice that. So even if this goes through I'll still be paying my loans for a while.
Yes, it won't help many people in trouble with loans. That fact does not make paying for it any less infuriating or unfair.
I suppose for people who took one year and dropped out, and are still working menial jobs, it will be a big boost.
But for people like me who got a useful education and put it to work, it is completely unnecessary.
Yup. Completely forgiving student debt of the govt employees should attract as much attention as this.
That's why the left is pointing out, and to be fair quite correctly in this case, that $10K isn't going to do anything other than piss off both sides without really accomplishing anything substantive. It's really no different than the 9/11 refund checks that the Bush administration had sent out.
The smart thing to do would be to end the payment moratorium and restore normal bankruptcy laws to student loan debt, but I suspect the administration is terrified of what might happen if a bunch of Millennials and Gen-xers suddenly declare bankruptcy. So we're getting this half-measure that doesn't even tickle their side's MOAR FREE SHIT nubs.
I suppose for people who went to college for a semester or two before dropping out, and are still working menial jobs, forgiving $10K could be quite helpful. But other than that it's just shameless pandering for votes.
The sad part is that it's not even effective pandering. Biden's acting like $10K is some huge help; that won't even cover a year's worth of tuition at a lot of Shit State Universities these days.
Part of me honestly wonders if Yellen and some of this Treasury bigwigs are freaking out due to the possibility of a real debt jubilee causing inflation to skyrocket even more once the upper middle class isn't sinking $500-2000 a month into paying their student loans anymore.
I will say one positive thing about setting up that loan with automatic payments and forgetting about it. My credit score is over 800.
I would just make a payment every paycheck, since I was already paying bills anyway--when I was waterfalling the loans, every other paycheck went directly to the loan I was targeting, while the other one covered the standard payment. By the time I got to the last loan, I was sinking $1,000 a month in to it and got it paid off incredibly fast after that.
I get real squirrely about setting up automatic payments after reading stories on people who end up getting their bank account cleaned out due to mistakes in billing. Money management is the one thing I won't give up to the Automation Age.
The sad part is that it's not even effective pandering. Biden's acting like $10K is some huge help; that won't even cover a year's worth of tuition at a lot of Shit State Universities these days.
Once they get this 10k they can repeat it as often as they want, exactly as they have done the deferral forgiveness described. Once the price is no longer relevant to most people they can bloat education employment to include everything they want and stick the bill to those in private industry.
Yeah, I can already hear the raptor-like screeches of "This isn't enough, we need more help!" just like during the fucking pandemic.
You can then expect them to be demanding forgiveness of the bankruptcy next since they will claim that they are far worse off as a group and there needs to be a restoration of "equity".
Never give an inch to the left.
How? I managed State school with graduate degree(s) and paid my loans back within 5 years - no parental or outside assistance either? I just don't think most people know how to actually budget and live within means, they always want more more more, a new car, a bigger house, trips to put on instagram; that's what we'll be paying for and those that forsook that get to do what was the right thing get the shaft.. Btw this was while I was making 12-13$ an hour.
Paying them off wasn't high on my priority list. I locked into a stupid low rate, set up automatic payments, and forgot about it.
So you'd rather pay 100k over 10 years than 60k over 5 years. LOL. Financial wizard over here.
I never said it was the best decision I ever made.
Can you tell us what you think your best decision was? This should be fun.
If they knew government wouldn't be forgiving their debts they would not have dug themselves in so deep.
I paid my student debt off in five years as well. While working crap jobs too. The difference was that I spent my first two years at junior college which I could afford in full. So I missed out on that whole junior/sophomore drunken spree that most people get, but the classes where the same.
Perhaps it is time for the Feds to wash their hands of student loans completely and have banks ALONE --- with no bailouts offered --- to handle student loans.
"I managed State school with graduate degree(s) and paid my loans back within 5 years - no parental or outside assistance either?"
How long ago was this? I know it can be done, but the cost of college in real terms is doubling every 8 or 9 years. That includes state schools.
Credit hour prices have quadrupled since I went to college.
Let's see if you are principled and write a 10k check back to the government for you getting a write off.
Many of us paid off our loans like many adults do.
Let's see if you are principled and write a 10k check back to the government for you getting a write off.
I'm not stupid.
Many of us paid off our loans like many adults do.
Ummm, ok. Sure. Set another strawman on fire dude.
I'm not stupid.
Nor principled.
Thanks, saved this for later.
Hello, I paid off my school loans in full. several years back. Do I get $10,000 too? This policy suggestion like all of bumbling Brandon's is a miserable failure waiting to happen.
It’s ten grand more than any tax payer would actually see anyway. I mean, most of the time the tax dollars go to war - it would be a huge score for those students if they had ten grand less. I’ve got debt and idgaf what anyone says, if Biden promises ten grand - I’d vote for him.
Please go, Brandon.
Why are we asking the poorest Americans to do a one-time giveaway to the wealthiest Americans in the form of a 10K gift?
Like doctors and lawyers need a 10K gift from the federal government?
There is no authority - none - that grants this to the federal government.
The federal government doesn't have any Constitutional authority to issue student loans in the first place. Oh yeah. Commerce clause. It negates the rest of the Constitution and justifies literally anything.
At times I agree with you [this being one of them].
When I give a shit about having your approval I'll be sure to let you know.
Fuck you too.
Sarc’s just here to talk about ideas. He never trolls.
When you say "At times I agree with you [this being one of them]" it's called "damning with faint praise."
Which is a British way of telling someone to fuck off without saying "fuck off."
I merely said fuck you too, buddy.
I agree sarcasmic....there is no constitutional authority for student loans, government underwriting, etc.
You make the point, the people who will benefit from this are the people who typically are making enough money to pay off the loans that they chose to take.
Those of us who paid back our loans....do we get a one-time 10K rebate? Tax-free? 🙂
It's more likely you'll have your taxes increased to pay off that $10K for someone else.
That's retarded, are they taking the money only from some federal taxes that only middle and lower pay? And somehow the "poorest" are paying the most?
Republicans have really come a long way with their histrionics. Not quite democrats yet, but youll get there.
I get it. It's a stupid vote buying plan that mostly benefits people we hate. I don't need it, nor want it, but I'll take it. I assure you, Romney's 43% will contribute just as much as they do to everything else. 0.
Inflation doesn’t effect poor people?
Inflation sucks, but it’s not the taxes anyone is actually talking about.
The OP stated: “Why are we asking the poorest Americans to do a one-time giveaway to the wealthiest Americans in the form of a 10K gift?”
I’m not aware of any specific tax being levied to pay for this?
Its just going to be more debt, while giving wealthy people free $10,000 that they would otherwise be paying off their debt with to spend elsewhere.
Wealth transfer doesn’t require directly taxing poor people and giving it to rich people. Do you not think all the Covid measures weren’t a wealth transfer?
Even then it still doesn’t work in my mind (the poorest don’t pay income taxes and last I checked, benefits were tied to inflation). And It’s not like the rich aren’t affected by inflation too.
I’m not denying it’s a giveaway, a massive wealth transfer, or completely outside the bounds of the fed.gov. It’s just silly to play the same class war bullshit of “the poorest are getting hosed” when the brunt of this will be borne by the middle and upper middle class, both in increased taxes and increased cost of living. As it always is.
I’m not even sure if this treason is factored into Biden’s plan to increase the mainline budget to $8.2 trillion.
What happens to tuition after the debt jubilee?
Does the amount of worthless admin decrease?
How about the number of useless, blow dick degrees being offered?
I would wager that all of these problems get worse on the other side of this nonsense.
Inflation is out of control, we're headed into a recession, and the senile clown in the Whitehouse wants to give ten grand to the country's post-colonial feminist underwater basket weaving majors. If the GOP can't score points on that, I don't know what to tell them.
They can’t just get elected. They’re going to have to actually DO something. Like fight back hard. Viciously destroying the democrats is a necessity. Which I think they will completely fail at.
It is very unlikely that anything short of a revolution can save this country from the democrats anymore.
finally! I *might* be part of the rich get richer crowd. always wanted to know what it felt like
"You don't need Congress," Schumer said. "All you need is the flick of a pen."
This from Mr. "I was born to legislate."
Showing you how it's done.
He's looks like caricature of what a crooked cartoon congress person would be exactly
A Japanese caricature with bigger tits than you'd ever expect in real life.
The guys who create those hentai are truly fucked up.
No. And, tar and feather Schumer.
The environmental impact study for heating the tar would take too long - - - - - - -
As long as there is an amendment to give the same amount of mortgage relief, car debt forgiveness, credit card erasure, or cash grants to those stupid enough to have no debts, then just fine.
I suggest this be funded by a "tax the rich" scheme to confiscate all college endowments as a funding source. If that is not enough, confiscate all campaign funds, and tax political contributions at 200%.
Fuck you, Joe Biden. These people signed a contract, they can damn well pay it back.
Yup. I made a shit decision and I can live with it. Nobody to blame but myself and my parents to a lesser extent. I made sure my offspring stayed the f away.
$10,000 only covers about one semester of college.
The problem is not the debt. The problem is the cost. And that arises directly from the Federal government handing out loans like candy. Before they did that they explicitly guaranteed all private sector student loans. To the worst credit risks.
To get the costs down stop giving away the credit.
Yes!!!!
totes.
Just eliminate all staff related to DIE and/or Title IX.
No institution of higher learning should have more than 10% of staff not actively teaching.
Better yet, make the colleges themselves give the loans. The student pays 15% of wages for 7 years after graduation. If the school can't get him ready for a job that pays enough for that to work, maybe they should charge less.
No more loans for sociology, or the humanities. Those degrees are worthless.
$10k grants to people making $300k?
Lol. I guess we know where the AOC lobby sits on the wage scale.
I give you the modern DNC everyone:
No personal responsibility for any citizens, just be fat lazy slobs, the govt will pay back the loans you signed up for, and snuff out the baby you made for you. Just be a good little commie, vote D, and dont complain about the bug protein sandwiches.
Government, treating the symptom and not the disease since 1933.
Doing everything he can do prevent inflation, which is caused by a bunch of stuff Trump did, and is NOT caused by the government printing tons of money.
"Federal student loans have been frozen since March 2020. Since then, borrowers have not been required to make any payments, nor have their loans accrued interest"
In many cases, you could probably replace the bolded part above with 'not been able'. As in, even if you want to pay your loans with your payment is going 100% to principle - which is typically a good idea if you can get that arrangement - good luck getting your loan payments restarted. I certainly was given the bureaucratic run-around enough that I eventually gave up.
Now with this loan forgiveness uncertainty dangling out there, it might not even be a good (financial) idea to try to start paying them back - even if that's 100% the (morally) right thing to do.
Who did you do your loans through? I paid mine via NelNet and the only way they could have stopped me from making payments was to completely disable the "make a payment" function on my account page, or sent my checks back uncashed.
I certainly would have thrown a damn fit if that had happened.
No loans for freshman year. If you think you can handle college, then prove it. Then see if a bank is impressed enough to lend you money for next three years.
The moratorium has also allowed participants in the Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF) program—which forgives federal direct loans after borrowers make 120 payments while working for a government agency or a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization—to count each month of the pandemic as a qualifying payment, even though they actually paid nothing.
The goal is always to make us pay for their voters. This is how the aristocracy works.
still waiting for Liz Warren to introduce legislation to hold responsible these greedy price gouging universities
"$10,000 in federal student loan forgiveness per borrower"
News from the future: Tuition at universities both large and small increased by $10,000.
I guess the Pell Grant wasn't Nazi-Enough....
Remember that day; The 'feds' were given the authority to STEAL from it's citizens to subsidize Commie-Education????
Yeah; me neither...
F'En Nazi's.
It's stupid.
1) It doesn't fix the underlying issue in the least.
2) It won't be the political boon anyone thinks it will. People who weren't going to vote before this will simply find another reason to not vote.
Rule # 87 for politicians: Never fix the underlying problem. You need something to run on in the next election.
Gee, I know inflation is everyone's top priority right now, but what the hell. Helicopter money for everyone!
I want to know if parent loans will also be forgiven. Took out loans for a child in college. Been paying throughout the forbearance periods, so everything went on the principal. Even if Little Joey forgives what I have left, still won't vote for any Dems for anything.
Oh yeah, by executive authority. Wasn't that the preferred method of Adolf, Fidel, and Uncle Joe?
That leads us to the question, soundness aside, of whether Biden can use executive authority to grant broad student loan forgiveness.
Glad to see some of us are still maintaining a sense of humor about The Potato's obvious fragile mental state that we can still joke about such things as Constitutional, legal, moral, and physical limits to the power of the executive.
My wife and I just paid off the student loans for our adult children. We had the resources to help and decided to assist them with this expense. They were on track to pay off the loans in a reasonable amount of time, but my wife and I figured that it would help each of our children to establish themselves more quickly.
Under the Biden plan, does this mean that we can get reimbursed $10,000 per child for their student loan obligations? Why should we be penalized for being responsible and helping out our adult children?
Answer: we shouldn't receive the $10K per child, but neither should those with outstanding student loan debt receive $10K either.
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...but, but, but the Federal government just raised the interest rate on Federal Student loans 1%.
Which is it are they trying to help students of saddle them with even more debt?
Authority?
Whence comes the authority for Biden to cancel contractual debt? The U.S. Constitution — Remember that? — would seem to forbid it.
Excerpt from Retribution Fever:
For decades, with no accountability the lawyer-Justices on the U.S. Supreme Court have abused their authority by unleashing a tyranny of unconstitutional rulings. Not only have they been expanding application of provisions in the Constitution beyond their original meanings, they have been limiting application of the most fundamental provisions supporting the Republic. The most often cited example is the Tenth Amendment. Another lesser known example is the Contractual Clause.
“No State shall . . . pass any . . . Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts . . . .” -Article I, Section 10
Until the late 19th-century, the Court frequently cited this provision when a law or regulation of a State infringed upon the sanctity of contracts. Then, the Court gradually began dismembering this vital provision until, by the 1930s, like the Tenth Amendment, it had become moribund — original intent and meaning be damned!
If no State may impair obligation of contracts, whence comes the authority for the President to do so? The Executive executes the laws. He does not make them.
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
- Napoleon
“The opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.”
- Sun Tzu
Strictly for entertainment purposes:
1. Forgive $10,000 in student debt for each borrower.
2. Make the schools they graduated from liable for it instead.
Anyone getting their student loans paid off by the government should get their
socialcredit scores set back to 0.So Congress arranges to rob Americans and use the proceeds to purchase votes from slow-learning students. This makes Congress the robbers and students at worst receivers of stolen/fraudulently-obtained goods, and at best abettors or victims duped by deceit. Biden's Administration is the criminal, for, as Spooner explained: "the accomplice can certainly commit no greater offence than the principal." The trick here is handing impunity to perpetrators under color of offering forgiveness to their victims.
I’m surprised that you aren’t somehow blaming the ‘girl bulliers’ of the ‘Gee-oh-Pee’ for this.
Student loans are backed by the Federal Government. Cancelling those debts would constitute spending by the Federal Government. Lacking a law specifically passed by the US House and approved by the US Senate makes any debt cancellation Unconstitutional.
And if student loans are so awful, why aren't the democrat majorities in this government banning new student loans?
When they live moment to moment nothing needs to make any sense.
Because young college grads are about their only remaining base and they want to insure that they get their fun without having to pay for it.
Maybe we should firebomb universities?
Best I can think of is a buy back program. You sell your degree back to the university for something like 90% of what you paid, and universities pay for it with their billion dollar endowments.
You don't get the degree, you still have to pay something back (unless you already paid off 10%). If you think it is worth the money and you have a good job, you pay off the loan, and the tax payer is off the hook.
Universities have to start giving value for money, win /win for all.
I've heard it said a compromise is where both parties come away feeling they lost something, so this seems a good measure.
The problem is they are trying to lure the taxpayer in as an active party to this deal.
There is a reason Harvard is being called a hedge fund with a university attached to it. Loan forgiveness is just tax payer money being given to Universities to own, invest and profit from.
90% would be quite a return for any sociology degree. Since those aren’t worth the value of the paper it’s printed on.