Florida Sheriff Arrests 10-Year-Old, Releases Mug Shot and Perp Walk, Then Uses Media Tour To Brag About It
“Scared straight” juvenile policing programs have a history of not working. They’re not the solution to school shootings.

"Present deadly physical force at one of our schools, we're not waiting one second. We are going to kill you, 'cause you can't kill evil enough," declares Lee County, Florida, Sheriff Carmine Marceno, in a TikTok video, in front of a pack of gun-wielding deputies, while Journey's "Separate Ways (Worlds Apart)" inexplicably serves as background music.
It sounds almost like a joke, something from a television show like Reno 911! that finds humor in some of the most awkward behaviors of law enforcement. It's not. Marceno posted it on his YouTube channel Friday, part of his response to the Robb Elementary School shooting in Uvalde, Texas.
Much less amusing was his department's decision to respond to an alleged school violence threat by a 10-year-old by arresting him on Saturday, releasing the boy's full name and a mug shot, and even a perp walk. The boy is accused of texting a threat to commit a mass shooting using images of assault rifles, according to Marceno. The parents of the recipient of the text contacted the police.
It seems likely that the boy had no plan to commit violence at all, and Marceno fully acknowledges this. The Lee County Sheriff's Office obviously had to investigate the threat, even if it came from a child. That's not in dispute. But Marceno has also decided to launch a public campaign out of the incident, using this boy to draw attention to what he thinks is the right way to prevent school shootings by deliberately humiliating children who act out in ways that can cause real fear.
Marceno is on a full press tour following the boy's arrest, and he's retweeting the press coverage of the decision to treat the child as though he was arrested for knocking over a bank. He's telling parents that they need to sit their kids down and teach them that fake threats can have real consequences. In an appearance on Fox & Friends (which he has excerpted on his YouTube channel) he says, "We need to get back to the old school and hold people accountable."
Marceno calls himself the "law and order sheriff" on his own video titles and Twitter feed (he even uses a hashtag, #LawandOrderSheriff), and the whole press tour has a weird feel of a branding effort rather than an actual educational drive.
In the days since the shooting, we've learned more about the Uvalde shooter, his troubled background, and his regular threatening behavior toward others. We've also learned that the Uvalde Police officers on scene absolutely and horrifyingly failed to properly respond to the violence unfolding at the school. In that context, the performative nature of Marceno's behavior is certainly an attempt to try to reassure people that what happened in Uvalde won't happen under his watch.
But there's also a lesson here for those who think that more policing (and not effective policing) is the answer to school shootings. Policing schoolchildren doesn't necessarily lead to more safety—but it does lead to more arrests of kids. It's absurd now to look at the Uvalde shooter's background and conclude that the shooting happened because he wasn't shamed enough by police for his bad behavior. The Daily Mail notes that Marceno thinks his aggressive shaming response is part of a new "scared straight" effort that parents appreciate. And he no doubt has supporters who believe that this is the right approach: that if kids were punished more publicly for recklessly sending out threats, they'd stop doing it.
But research has shown that "scared straight" approaches—where police and courts expose troubled kids to the prisons and policing system in an attempt to get them to behave better—don't actually work, and in fact may make problems worse. An analysis of studies of "scared straight" intervention programs published in 2013 found that they actually have a harmful effect on juveniles and don't deter delinquency or crime in the long run. In fact, researchers found that crime increased among those who participated in such programs compared to those who did not.
Some people think it works, though, and Marceno certainly wants people to think it does rather than question the wisdom of making a media performance out of arresting a small child. He is making assumptions about what the child is going to learn from the experience, and what he thinks the kid will learn doesn't match what researchers have discovered.
But it sure looks like Marceno is doing something, right? There is something to be learned here: An elected official will happily and proudly make a public performance out of humiliating a small child in order to bolster his own reputation, score media hits, and reinforce tactics that make certain constituencies feel like something is being done even if those tactics don't actually work.
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It seems likely that the boy had no plan to commit violence at all, and Marceno fully acknowledges this. The Lee County Sheriff's Office obviously had to investigate the threat, even if it came from a child. That's not in dispute. But Marceno has also decided to launch a public campaign out of the incident, using this boy to draw attention to what he thinks is the right way to prevent school shootings by deliberately humiliating children who act out in ways that can cause real fear.
Fear in the children or in the community?
It seems to me that making threats to attack the school should result in arrest.
Even of a 10 year old.
Even if he doesn’t have a definite plan.
Now he is in the criminal justice system and will likely have court ordered psychiatric evaluation.
And hopefully treatment.
Other kids should be made aware that threats are a crime and will be punished.
Actual attacks should be met with deadly defensive force
Perp walking a ten year old that had no intention or ability to carry out an empty threat is pathetic. If I were the parents, I would their collective asses over this.
"An elected official will happily and proudly make a public performance out of humiliating a small child in order to bolster his own reputation, score media hits, and reinforce tactics that make certain constituencies feel like something is being done even if those tactics don't actually work."
Why yes. That is in fact the correct answer.
But why you believed that "There is something to be learned here..." is beyond me. 200+ years of politics in this country should serve as evidence, not of a lesson to be learned, but rather as an ingrained way of life.
If you want a government run by people who's qualification are greater that that of having of a sleezy used car salesmen's smile and ability to shake hands and kiss babies, then I have bad news for you...
I think there's a really hard issue at play with mass shootings as well. The claim made is "even if those tactics don't actually work."
That's hard to verify either way. Because shootings are extremely rare events. It's hard to draw conclusions from anything due to that. They're a very America specific thing, but even within that they're extremely rare. Finding legal cause-and-effect in that space is really, really hard.
But they're not rare! According to the media and the government there's a school shooting every day in this country! Psaki said she was afraid to send her kids to school because shootings are so common!
Seriously though, you're totally correct. In a country of over three hundred million people, how many are killed in these shootings?
You've got a better chance of getting hit by lightening on a sunny day.
Yeah, it's bad. It's a weirdly American thing. Though even that's not true. It's basically a new world thing minus Canada. For whatever reason though, we balk at being compared to Brazil, which in many ways is much more comparable to the history and demographics of the US than any European country.
The big thing is this does scare people, and I don't know how to convince folks otherwise. You see people saying we have to do something, and I sympathize, but am uncertain if anything realistically can be done. It's like 9/11. I'm still not certain any good decisions came out of that, if we're any safer in any way. We are under much more government pressures though.
There's a real question here of the problem of evil as well. Folks are largely uncomfortable with that idea these days though. We're not good at dealing with tragedy.
Canada does not have shootings? You would be mistaken. They have them as well.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/deadly-shootings-schools-canada-1.3416685
Yes, I’m sure that school shootings are a huge threat at Sidwell Friends Academy where she and her democrat elite fellow travelers send their kids.
I guess I don't agree that hard issue at play is mass shooting. It is the issue du jour certainly, but not at all unique in that those withing political arena are rushing to grandstand it.
Drug war, over dosing, sex trafficking, protests, riots, sexting, scandals, shortages, bankruptcies, inflation, debt, whatever... if it gets good coverage, elected officials, and those who want to be, will rush to act.
Make no mistake... acting with resolve is about coverage, not solutions. Donor dollars and voter name recognition are the real goal.
Teach your kid to call 911 and rehearse: "Son/daughter, if the government-employee operator does not hang up on you for whispering, tell him/her/it that an illegal alien drug smuggler with a suitcase full of cash has locked the door and is trying to get you and your classmates to smoke marijuana cigarettes."
That was painfully bad. Just turn the morphine drip up already.
The BBC is realizing the grave situation in Ukraine and the "Ukraine is winning" narrative is crumbling completely. Apparently, a lot of people in Britain who were convinced of the "Ukraine is beating back the Russians" narrative are now openly shocked at this news from the BBC.
I really pray for them, I do. I remember trying to tell people though to keep your hopes low. Ukraine has done impressively, and has really embarrassed Russia on the world stage. But it's going to be brutal nonetheless. Because Russia oligarchs, and maybe the people themselves, don't seem to care that much about human life.
Pray for Ukraine. Pray for Russia.
This is a disaster. Here's a very good interview which covers the Ukraine issue which mirrors my perception and attitude towards it.
Peter Hitchens... he's very good at understanding things like the Minsk II agreements. I cut it at a particular time, but I recommend the entire interview.
Hitchens discusses the reasons for the invasion but pulls no punches when calling the invasion unlawful.
So are those that have said that sending money and materiel to Ukraine is worse than flushing it down a toilet vindicated, or are they still conspiratorial Putin supporters? Asking for a friend.
Oh look, a Putinbot that hasn't been banned yet. Sod off back to Russia, and take the Trump nuts with you.
And if he was ignored and then shot up some place, how many here would be complaining about a "known wolf" not being dealt with sooner? There's ten-year-olds in Chicago who have killed.
Buy 'em books, send 'em to a mandatory gubmint school staffed by force-initiating Kleptocracy looters, then act Shocked and Surprised when they kill a bunch of people. The Unabomber, that El Paso cretin, the Zealander and many others penned paeans to altruist collectivism and killed a bunch of people. Republicans and Democrats prefer government school collective shootings to sane private schools. Does anyone not see this?
This is what happens when someone goes from hall monitor straight to sheriff.
says the blog monitor gone blog sheriff. But do you have Sheriff Carmine Marceno's bulging chest and hawt muscles? nahhhhhhh
In an effort to look like a badass, Sheriff Marceno looks like a pussy.
Lesbian? I know too many Lesbians who spit tobacky when a man looks more alpha than them.
I prefer hot lesbians. Like the ones in Penthouse. As long as I can watch.
I also prefer those kinds of lesbians.
Too bad 98% of internet commenter think this kid should get life.
Common sense is why libertarians will never win shit on the national level.
Too bad 98% of internet commenter think this kid should get life.
Memo to Scott Shackford: castrate this 10 year old. This is the one time I will grin if you groom a little
terroristboy, force him to take "gender affirming" puberty blockers and snip his nuts. You can even put him in your pocket and use him as your slave since clearly his parents dont give a frack.But that Sheriff Carmine Marceno!!! Hawt mofo! I wonder if he swings both ways. / sarc. not!
Libertarians have won major repeals of bad laws for 50 years despite being crippled by anarcho-fascist and girl-bullying infiltraitors by 1980. Winning is not getting politicians on the payroll. Winning is using political clout of spoiler votes to make looter parties choose between giving up some deadly coercion or losing that snout in the trough. Ask any Naral strategist.
Girl bulliers are running wild Hank! Running wild! After Roe is struck down next week, they’re gonna send Romney to take away women’s tampons!
Better get on the case to stop it Hank!
While I don't condone the public release of mugshots or even the juveniles name, I am totally onboard with a smackdown on even idle threats to shoot up schools.
Threats are not protected by the 1st amendment and go against the NAP.
If we create an environment where it is NOT OKAY to threaten to shoot up a school, it will become a helluva lot easier to identify school shooters that are sincere about threatening to shoot up a school.
There is no indicator other than the sheriff's claim, that there was a threat. This is what you are condoning, violation of 1A based on interpretation of 'threat' w/o the 'threat' being assessed by any person or group other than law enforcement. You have no idea if this kid was sincere in this desire to do anything, and your assertion is willfully ignorant. Allowing police, or any group, to determine what constitutes a threat, versus the true threat standard is a gross violation, one that you seem very happy to accept.
This is actually a really interesting situation to add to the societal discussion (i.e. righteous condescending yelling match) that is occurring about guns in this country.
So much has been discussed about mental health and catching people prior to them committing a school shooting by seeing the "warning signs." But no one really talks about or knows what it means to catch people prior to the crime. Here you have an over-the-top example of someone trying to employ this line of thought, and it is not coming off too well.
It seems OK since people who have been shamed and humiliated never ever seek revenge.
This is a reductio have-cake-or-eat-it proof that you can't have a bill of rights and coercive government schools both. Ours is the only country with truancy laws populating Kleptocracy schools bad enough to turn kids into killers, and individual rights now exploited to steer that into happening. Without 2A another Nixon could make defending against nuclear attack a crime. So the choice is: privatize government schools or give up the bill of rights and have Euro-massacres. Which will it be?
Damn, Dizzle. Very well stated. The amount of "reporting" and "journalism" that you cut through with this simple summary is off the charts.
Go fight in Ukraine, or shut the fuck up about your totalitarian world government desires
"But then you've got shit like nardz has been posting, copied almost directly from rt or veterans today, claiming theres a large contingent of nazis in Ukraine (we know of the azovs, but they're a miniscule minority. And if you think their presence justifies Russias invasion, then you also must believe that we should have let Russia and Cuba invade America during the cold War because we certainly had neo nazis and kkk members in our police and military then as well... "some of those who work forces are the same who burn crosses") , the Ukrainians have been committing genocide for decades, zelensky is a secret coke head billionaire, and that putin is doing this to fight against the globalists/obama/nulland and therefore tens of thousands of dead Ukrainians and Russians are OK because fuck Obama."
"But Russia wanted much more. Thankfully they got their asses kicked trying to probe the country further, they were repelled from kyiev in a matter of days"
LOL
You're repeating, line for line and with no sentient argument, State Department talking points.
This is why I call you Ukraine bots.
You didn't know shit about Ukraine, Maidan, Azov, or the Donbass until 3 months ago.
Are neonazis the majority of Ukrainians? Probably not, but Kiev is still naming stadiums and streets after people whose only claims to notoriety are fighting for and collaborating with the actual Nazis. They don't do that shit in Poland or Lithuania. Neonazi organizations are an official part of Ukraine's military. Unofficially, they make up most of the SBU. You sit here and say neonazis are insignificant within Ukraine, as if Greece didn't just have a fucking fit because Zelensky brought one with him to address their parliament.
I've never said neonazis justified Russian invasion, I've simply acknowledged their significance within the Ukrainian power structure.
Go fuck yourself with that Putin pole sucker, you leftist parroting boomer bitch. Zelensky may or may not be a coke head, I don't really care but jokes about it are funny. Truth is, he's an actor who suddenly became the protege/client of a russophobe Ukrainian oligarch, who bought a TV station and created a show to groom him for the presidency. His 70% election did not include Crimea or the Donbass, though I doubt it would have hurt his numbers much because he ran on a platform of implementing the Minsk2 agreement.
And it's hilarious watching you repeat State Department msm assessments of the war verbatim, as if they're anywhere close to realistic. I'm sure the professional liars are totes telling the truth about this! But you go right ahead and wave your blue and yellow flag (while many Ukrainians will keep waving their black and red ones...).
You didn't poke holes in a damn thing, you just repeated your talking points again.
There is a huge difference between KKK and Neo-Nazis being employed under neutral banners of military and police vs the state/city/fed contracting with a militia group fighting under their neo-nazi/KKK banner.
We would be outraged if our government contracted specifically with a clearly defined neo-nazi militia. That’s part of why militias in this country are met with so much revulsion, because it is assumed they are all neo-Nazis.
The lack of oversight is simply how Congress expects their actions and spending to proceed -no questions from the proles. As for drones and artillery, if you want to step up the proxy war that was already happening, say so. Russia's invasion was, and is shitty, but did not occur in a vacuum. If the US was faced w/ a similar situation in a neighboring country, the response would be similar, or worse, given the current denizen of the Oval Office.
It is also quite rich that people seem to expect Ukraine to be as democratically mature as Connecticut, or else it is just frankly not worth defending (rhetorically). Ukraine has problems, yes. Most of those problems are due to the giant Evil Empire that occupied it for much of a century, some of that time spent trying to starve those people into extinction.
Personally, I think Ukraine has a right to defend itself. I think Europeans ought to do much to protect them. I think Ukraine is prudent and well within its rights to want to join an alliance against the regime that has enslaved it in the recent history. I also don't think the US ought to have anything to do with that. If they want to buy arms from us, fine.
Didn't read it. You went full propagandist bullshit, why read further?
By the way, here's one of Ukraine bots' primary sources:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-fires-human-rights-chief-perpetuating-russian-troop-systematic-rape-stories
Sure, boomer.
"CoMmUnIsT rUsSiA!" - might as well just shout about the patriarchy and Whiteness.
You cheer putting guns to Americans' heads to confiscate our resources and security for your (well, one world government's) idiotic globalist cause.
Go fuck yourself.
Ukraine absolutely has a right to defend itself.
It's unwise for Ukrainians to support a government that's sacrificing them for the cause of globalist oligarchs and iNazi world rule, but that's on them. I doubt the majority supports attempting to deny self determination for Crimea and the Donbass and subjugate them, at least not to the point of losing their lives for it. Zelensky won election in 2019 running on a platform to bring peace through diplomacy.
And I'd be cool with American companies selling Ukraine weapons... if Ukraine had any money. But Ukraine only has what anglosphere governments steal from their own people to give Ukraine.
Ukraine is a corrupt shithole that's only gotten worse since neo nazis spearheaded the 2014 coup ordered by corrupt globalists.
I find it humorous that people here bitch about tariffs or immigration policies as super anti liberty, then make excuses for and cheer on a foreign government who outlawed all opposition, conscripted its entire male population, and nationalized all media under Kiev's government.
Sink or swim, Ukraine offers absolutely nothing positive to the American people.
By the evidence, Ukraine is on par w/ Connecticut in terms of democracy.