Your Favorite Crisis Doesn't Justify a Dictatorship
Authoritarianism grows increasingly popular, with environmentalists among the greatest enthusiasts.

When the deliberately inefficient give-and-take of liberal democracy doesn't let you shoehorn neighbors into your preferred policy solutions, there are two likely reactions: You decide the coercive state isn't the right means for achieving your goals and try voluntary means instead, or you conclude that the give-and-take of disagreement and debate is the problem and double down on coercion with the safeguards removed. That second choice in favor of authoritarian end-runs is growing increasingly popular, with environmentalists among the greatest enthusiasts.
"In the Q&A session after every talk I give on climate change, someone will typically raise a rather uncomfortable question: are democracies, given the short-termist nature of electoral politics, fundamentally incapable of tackling the climate crisis?" writes Mark Lynas, author of Our Final Warning: Six Degrees of Climate Emergency, at Persuasion. "Nor is this idea limited to a political fringe. Environmentalist academics with impeccable liberal credentials also occasionally raise the question of whether classic Western liberal democracy isn't up to the job."
Lynas goes on to cite recent books, essays, and scholarly papers by environmental advocates suggesting that climate change is such a pressing concern that it justifies government officials steamrolling over limitations on state power and protections for individual rights.
"While, under normal conditions, maintaining democracy and rights is typically compatible with guaranteeing safety, in emergency situations, conflicts between these two aspects of legitimacy can and often do arise," wrote Ross Mittiga, a political scientist at the Pontificia Universidad Católica de Chile, in a paper published in December 2021 by the American Political Science Review. "A salient example of this is the COVID-19 pandemic, during which severe limitations on free movement and association have become legitimate techniques of government. Climate change poses an even graver threat to public safety. Consequently, I argue, legitimacy may require a similarly authoritarian approach."
The most recent example may have come too late for Lynas to include. On Tuesday, Elected Officials to Protect America (EOPA) held a virtual press conference calling on President Joe Biden to invoke the Defense Production Act (DPA) "to accelerate a clean energy transition for energy security" and, incidentally, "to help Ukraine." The Ukraine mention, one suspects, was thrown in because the DPA lets the federal government centrally direct the economy for national defense purposes. Then-President Donald Trump stretched "national defense" in 2020 to cover COVID-19, but the EOPA seem to recognize that climate change may be a step too far on its own, hence "Ukraine."
"The DPA authorizes the president to require businesses to accept and prioritize contracts for materials deemed necessary for national defense, and allows the president to designate materials to be prohibited from price gouging and hoarding," EOPA helpfully adds on its website.
EOPA, which claims to represent 1,313 elected officials in all 50 states, also wants the president "to go further than activating the DPA," according to a press release. "It supports a clean energy plan and asks for a Presidential Climate Emergency Declaration under the National Emergencies Act. A declaration will communicate the urgency of the climate crisis and unlock specific statutory powers." If a law granting semi-dictatorial powers during wartime isn't enough and you call for a state of emergency to "unlock specific statutory powers," you just might rank among those who have lost all patience with dissent and democracy and believe something more thuggish is required.
Environmentalists aren't alone in their frustration at not getting their way through the political process. Famously, on January 6, 2021, a mob of Trump supporters threw a collective hissy fit over their preferred candidate's loss at the ballot box. And the rot goes deeper still.
"Roughly 2 in 10 Trump and Biden voters strongly agree it would be better if a 'President could take needed actions without being constrained by Congress or courts,'" the University of Virginia's Center for Politics found in a September 2021 survey. More than 40 percent of both groups at least somewhat agreed with that sentiment.
In 2020, the Democracy Fund Voter Study Group noted that "one-third (33 percent) of Americans have at some point in the last three years said that they think having 'a strong leader who doesn't have to bother with Congress or elections' would be a good system of government."
So, environmental advocates aren't the only people impatient with debate and persuasion. But they are on the leading edge of the illiberal impulse at the same time that they embody the dangers inherent in trying to achieve policy goals through authoritarian means—because authoritarian regimes have a terrible record on environmental issues.
"During the 'environmental decade' of the 1960s and 1970s scholars first wondered whether communist states might have developed in an environmentally more sensitive way than capitalist ones," wrote Douglas R. Weiner in The Cambridge History of Communism, published in 2017. "Most concluded that not only did communist regimes fail to realize the theoretical advantages of a dirigiste system, their careless practices brought about, in the words of Murray Feshbach and Fred Friendly, Jr., an 'ecocide.'"
"By one estimate, in the late 1980s, particulate air pollution was 13 times higher per unit of GDP in Central and Eastern Europe than in Western Europe," Shawn Regan of the Property and Environment Research Center commented in 2019 about the old Soviet bloc. "Levels of gaseous air pollution were twice as high as this. Wastewater pollution was three times higher."
The record of dictatorial regimes hasn't improved. "The Chinese Communist Party Is an environmental catastrophe," Richard Smith succinctly observed in a 2020 Foreign Policy article.
That's especially ironic given that one of the works Lynas cites as championing environmental authoritarianism, The Collapse of Western Civilization: A View from the Future, by Naomi Oreskes and Eric Conway, fantasizes about China's rulers prevailing over liberal-democratic rivals in managing environmental crisis. It's more likely authoritarians will cause problems than resolve them.
Ultimately, observes Lynas, "it is the exact opposite of authoritarianism—freedom of speech, open debate, protest, and political advocacy—that has the potential to bring about policies to address the climate emergency." That same point could be made about every issue that people find compelling. Debate, opposition, and respect for individual rights can save all of us from the worst ideas of policy advocates who often mistake fanaticism for infallibility. Those too impatient to wade through the political process always have the option to abandon coercive government mechanisms and try to achieve their goals through innovation, persuasion, and other voluntary means.
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"Your Favorite Crisis Doesn't Justify a Dictatorship"
Butt... Butt... Butt I am butt-hurt about "stolen elections" here in the USA!!! Right HERE, dammit!!! So... Can we PLEASE carve out a Special Exception for MEEEEE and Der TrumpfenFuhrer?!?!
Do you really think Trump wants to be a dictator? I think he just wants attention and to be important.
He also wants money! My wife thinks he will run-run-run (for the money) all the way up till do-or-die time for the next POTUS elections (final decision time, do I run or not), or maybe clearly starting to lose at the primaries), then drop out with the money, and run with the money! And NOT run for POTUS! I suspect she might be right! Time will tell, of course...
The Don lost the 2016 popular vote but won the redneck electoral vote against a... er... nonmale person hated for that reason by Dem and GOP rednecks with green teeth. But being pawed by Televangelists, naming mytics to the Court and threatening all thinking fertile women didn't wash. The trendline does not look good for Orange Fuhrer, but if the LP platform includes the original Roe v Wade plank again, at least we benefit from no longer being lumped in with girl-bullying Comstockery.
Even if Trump does want to be a dictator (possible IMO) and his supporters were helping to instill a Trump dictatorship - it failed.
Pointing at Trump and Jan 6 is just pointing out that Republicans aren't perfect in terms of opposing authoritarianism - while much worse authoritarianism is being promoted by the left in the guise of fighting COVID, dispelling "misinformation", fighting climate change, and fighting for "racial equity" (whatever the left's version of racial equity is)
The DE-Regulator an authoritarian??????????? WTF......
PROJECTION is RICH in this thread...
And in the article below about progressive Congressional support for increased Executive Orders to achieve their agenda that the rot is in the branch of government that is supposed to be the bulwark against the dictatorial impulses of the executive.
Does anyone else agree that the world ending due to global warming is starting to look like a best case scenario?
Yes! Count me in! Earth will become uninhabitable in about 1.5 billion years, as the sun heats up! There's your "global warming"!
Thermonuclear war is MUCH more likely to be of near-immediate concern!
The Plucky Squirrel knows his physics!
Actually, yes. Especially for my region - I'm in an alpine desert, expecting to get more moisture and cooler weather as a result of climactic shift.
Coastal lefties are fucked though.
Well said. Enough of these bicoastal elitists pontificating to those of us with common sense. As we used to say in college..”f__k ‘em..and the horse they rode in on.”
Nope. I am again voting for Giant Meteor in 2024. Let's end it in a flash.
I hear Unicron is polling as a close second.
See? Some (who never read the book) imagined Ayn Rand went too far out on a limb in concluding that the standard of value for which altruism makes sense is a death-wish. Hopefully mystical republicans will again kill themselves wholesale as they did in Germany and conquered territories as of May 9, 1945.
Tuccille nailed it! Well done!
Not mentioned was a VERY simple (and true IMHO) idea: Even if we granted that dicktatorshit is better at solving "environmental, virus outbreak, etc." crisis? The fact remains, once dicktatorshit is granted, the dicks and dicktators IMMEDIATELY focus on PRESERVING (& enhancing) THEIR POWER, and the "crisis" becomes their 15th or 325th concern!!!
Conflicting natural rights? Someone has been reading Michael Hihn's blog again...
I’m a live and let live kind of fella. Unlike you.
“Heads on pikes, motherfuckers!” “You won’t see us coming!” Ooh, so scary.
Lol. Sounds like a live and let live attitude KARen. Of course when you factor in that you’re a retarded pussy, perhaps you are “live and let live” in practice if not in spirit.
Haha. What a doosh.
"Your Favorite Crisis Doesn't Justify a Dictatorship"
Exactly.
I was thoroughly disgusted by the way anti-immigration activists seized on covid as an excuse to say "You know what? Maybe unlimited, unrestricted immigration isn't the best idea. At least not right now." But we Koch / Reason libertarians know any country that practices "border enforcement" is effectively a dictatorship.
Indeed, even if covid was a thousand times more contagious and a million times more lethal, that would not have justified rethinking our open borders agenda for even one day.
#OpenBorders
#(EspeciallyDuringAPandemic)
Very true! Dicktatorshits LOVE to draw "borders" around each and every slave they own (obviously excluding themselves & their minions), and micromanage ("border control") EVERY "cross-border" interaction that their slaves have, with any other slave!
So, well done! Border control = slave control!!!
Democracy can’t fix global warming, or else it would have done it by now. We have to do it ourselves as individuals.
Well done Sir!
Or we can acknowledge the extreme hubris in the concept, note previous climactic shifts and the changing magnetic fields and accept that our planet does not exist in homeostasis.
That's gender-fluid stasis.
Lmao
Learn units of measure and discover that 30000 real scientists successfully used the Petition Project to block Kyoto exo-naziism. Tony at realclimatescience dotcom and thermometers show global warmunism is mendacious hysteria, like the antinuclear pants-dirtying Reason dispelled back in the 70s and 80s.
"Authoritarianism grows increasingly popular, with environmentalists among the greatest enthusiasts."
No,
They have been fascists all along. What has changed is that they are slowly coming out in the open.
Remember, remember, the fifth of November
“What has changed is that they are slowly coming out in the open.”
They’ve also gained a lot more power.
*4th of November
(Nonfiction version)
Suzuki has always been a misanthropic eco-fascist. He would say that human beings were maggots.
Big blue city mayors have been acting like petty dictators for years on smoking/vape bans, gas stoves, plastic bags, so this should come as no surprise. But at least these mayors used a supposedly democratic process where the city council rubber stamps their fiats.
There never was anything Democratic about it. Public input was nil and many votes happen behind closed doors.
Or, Democrats, seeing their impending November doom, are pulling all the levers to shake the money tree as hard as possible before they're booted from office.
This is my thought.
They all see the writing on the wall, and it doesn’t look good if your name is followed by (D).
They want daddy Biden to enact their agenda for them so they don’t have to take direct blame for voting to raise prices even higher than they already are. They don’t have the courage of their conviction. They’re giant pussies looking for anyone to be their Christ and take on their chamber voting sins.
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‘A complete rip-off’: Campaign-finance experts puzzled and stunned by Trump camp’s reported ‘money-bomb’ ploy
Mystical bigots have infinite capacity for self-deception in prophesying the New Jerusalem and 9 Televangelists on the Supreme Court. Rotsa ruck, but I am in the market for cash bets on outcomes.
Democrats aren't the only ones pulling all the levers to shake the money tree as hard as possible!
https://www.thedailybeast.com/mypillow-guy-mike-lindell-punts-timeline-for-trump-retaking-power-as-august-conspiracy-theories-get-wackier
MyPillow Guy Punts Timeline for Trump Retaking Power as Conspiracy Theories Get Wackier
https://www.salon.com/2021/08/22/mike-lindell-still-in-trumps-good-graces-has-new-prediction-reinstatement-by-new-years/
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The Lord Trump didn’t return to us yet, but He DID miraculously protect us all from the VERY worst forces of Evil, which is Der BidenFuhrer! Hold fast in your Faith… Lord Trump will come back VERY soon now! Especially if you send Him more money!
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Face it. The better side of human nature is apathy. The worse side is authoritarianism.
We can have a tolerable, and perhaps tolerating, society when most people don't really care about much beyond their immediate lives. In this mode, they are much more likely to live and let live, and default tribalism does not dominate.
But when people get riled up about something, things go to hell. Ideology and tribalism surge, and people want things fixed NOW. They demand power for themselves or proxies, and are not shy about enforcing whatever seems most expedient (and punitive for those who question authority).
I am beginning to think that activism of any type is the opposite of libertarianism.
This is what happens when you're a Californian who votes a hard left Democrat into DC because of something a rando from Kansas said on Twitter.
This idea that we’re supposed to care about everything everywhere is absurd.
Very Good!!!
"I am beginning to think that activism of any type is the opposite of libertarianism."
Until such (now VERY imaginary) time as Government Almighty is TOO SMALL, the only GOOD activism is that which advocates smaller Government Almighty, and uses (and advocates) persuasion rather than coercion!
Defeatism is the opiate of docile surrenderists.
"Debate, opposition, and respect for individual rights can save all of us from the worst ideas of policy advocates who often mistake fanaticism for infallibility."
You can't debate a drought, a heat wave, a forest fire or a hurricane. Nor can you threaten them with a gun. Once that realization sinks in, the cooperation on a global scale needed to address climate change should come more easily.
Incredibly none of those things happened prior to the industrial age.
You can't debate a drought, a heat wave, a forest fire or a hurricane. Nor can you threaten them with a gun.
What does that have to do with whether we should or shouldn't have a dictatorship?
The awful truth is that Mother Nature, the bitch, doesn't care whether we live under a dictatorship or not.
She also doesn't give two shits whether you drive an electric car, or live in a shack in the woods. We are involved in such a tiny spec in the annals of time, that what we are doing is irrelevant, but people like you are so self-important that you think we have affected the earth, and can change it going forward. The planet is 4.5B years old, and even the 100 years or so of real data we have has to be adjusted beyond a measurable difference. All of the models have to be tweaked to get the intended results, rather than the results showing us what is happening.
"She also doesn't give two shits whether you drive an electric car"
By George I think she's got it!
Lol. But she can be appeased with trillions of dollars and a vegan diet?
Will we still have hurricanes?
No, but it just might appease Father Science.
The worst environmental disasters have been in authoritarian nations. Like the Chernobyl accident, when Sovient Russia was in charge. Hell, the entirety of the USSR was an environmental disaster, from man-made famines to the Trabant.
"The worst environmental disasters have been in authoritarian nations."
It can go both ways. In authoritarian Singapore, the penalty for defiling the environment by spitting, chewing gum or graffiti, is caning, China, as it gets wealthier, has been moving in that direction also.
Ah yes, China's wonderful environmental record.
I'm not sure I would tout that as an environmental success.
"I'm not sure I would tout that as an environmental success."
I don't know of any country that I would call an environmental success. China has many problems, but they are becoming increasingly intent on doing something about them. The air quality in the cities has been atrocious thanks largely to vehicle emissions and coal burning. They've taken steps to lessen the effects as well as instituted campaigns against spitting, smoking, etc.
No, they really haven't.
And, you'd be better served to point right at the US smog reduction laws as a successful use of state authoritarianism to improve the environment rather than anything China's done.
China has instituted measures like stricter emission standards for vehicles, however much you want to believe otherwise.
That you will DEFEND China's policies on climate show how unserious the entire thing is.
I'm only pointing out the direction China has been heading, and how other authoritarian regimes like Singapore are not hellbent on spoiling the environment. If you're desperate to believe, like Agammamon, that China has not taken steps to improve air quality in the cities, or set out on a program to exploit hydro electric, nuclear and solar power, then there's not much I can say to you.
spitting, chewing gum or graffiti
How do these things contribute to global warming?
Spitting can spread respiratory disease and littering is an eyesore. Public acceptance of pollution can contribute to environmental degradation. Perhaps public awareness and condemnation of pollution can help to mitigate 'global warming,' don't you agree?
No.
Have you not listened to Fauci and his disciples for the last 2+ years. Spitting is literal violence, and could be construed as attempted murder. Clearly, trueman knows what's up, even though the rest of us rubes continue to defile the planet in a way that only China can save.
Spitting, chewing gum and graffiti are hardly "the environment". If Singapore actually cared about the environment, they'd be passing draconian laws about development limits, greenspace preservation, etc. They haven't. Their draconian laws are focused on the preservation of human habitat.
Not to say there are no examples, but that particular situation fails as a counter-example to Brandybuck's thesis.
"Spitting, chewing gum and graffiti are hardly "the environment"
Sure they are. An urban environment, which is pretty much all Singapore has to offer. They have no mountains, lakes, forests, prairies, etc. City streets are about the limit.
Spitting started with the industrial revolution. Nobody ever spit before that.
Thing is, plenty of places do not have laws against spitting or chewing gum but are also not covered in spit or chewing gum.
While other places have laws against defecating in the street and littering needles but are covered in shit.
I'm simply pointing out that authoritarian regimes can be conscious of their environment. If that makes you uncomfortable, it shouldn't.
No, you are pointing out that you are a moron.
Enough about pollution and dictatorships. Let's discuss me!
Argument from intimidation: If (some collective) really cared about (fake virtue) they'd be pointing guns at people and shooting all who disobey. Anything else is dereliction.
Didn't China recently open more coal power plants producing more power than almost any country on Earth has ever had?
Exactly. The new plants are equipped with more modern pollution controls and are located closer to the source of the coal and further from the cities whose air they have been polluting. The older plants are being decommissioned (shut down).
The more distant power plants are one of the reasons why China is putting money into high voltage direct current electricity transmission, by the way.
One of the neat things about HVDC power transmission is that it can deliver electrical power over great distances with comparatively small losses. The science behind it seems solid, but a transition would be expensive. Such a globe spanning grid should let Americans use wind and solar power from Australia during the night, and vice versa. Now you may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. I hope someday you'll join us, and the world will live as one.
Caring about the environment is a luxury. If you are worried about having enough food for your children, environmentalism is pretty low in your priorities. Economic development is the only way to get people to care. It's also the best way to make people resilient enough that changing conditions won't screw up everyone's lives.
Amen & well said!
"Caring about the environment is a luxury."
Doesn't that depend on the environment you inhabit? If you live in a toxic environment which endangers your health, then caring about it is hardly a luxury. Clean water and fresh air is a necessity. A mink coat is a luxury. I don't see why you are so intent on providing yourself with excuses not to care about the environment.
Wait, is Reason just now learning this?
I wouldn't say "learning..."
The radical environmentalists haven't been winning the "war of ideas" because they are lying about the climate. Hence the shift to authoritarianism, as is their natural instinct.
^THIS.
I'm glad someone's bringing it up, because it's obvious that the survival of the human species is more important than maintaining any theory of government.
But's it's not democratic principles that have led to the petroleum industry capturing multiple governments, including the US one. And it's not people adhering to democratic principles who get elected to public office using laundered petroleum money to do the petroleum industry's bidding. And it's not those people, or you people, who are making the case for democracy in other contexts. All I seem to hear from petroleum apologists from the Republican party and libertarian movement is how democracy sucks.
Democratic principles necessitate an educated population, something right-wingers are trying with passionate fervor to prevent.
It's not the Right demanding to be allowed to discuss sex with 7 year olds in schools.
Tell me more about how seriously the Left wishes to teach folks.
FOX News is lying to you. They lie.
"Don't believe your lying eyes, vote Democrat for the transgendered juvenile bunnies!" - Tony
Furthermore, any fucking idiot can see that they are lying.
Thats why fox is more successful than cnn, msnbc and so on
Thats why fox is more successful than cnn, msnbc and so on.
Your fallacy is: Being a dumbfuck redneck dupe.
now do every other cable and broadcast news outlet...
Not lying.
You should shoot yourself.
Unlike the Communist News Network or Nationalsocialist Broadcasting Corporation, right?
Not requiring sex education for 7 year olds is homophobic.
“….the survival of the human species….”
Lol. Damn dude, how do you get out of bed in the morning? So melodramatic and paranoid.
Totalitarian Tony struggles to equivocate libertarians with pulpit-thumping totalitarian mystical bigots. Is this to please tear-streaked communists offended by objectivist ethics? Mebbe to suck up to the Republicans struggling to mimic libertarians so they can get folks to shun us as they do the John Birch Society and George Wallace movement? All are coercive, libertarians aren't, so the fallacy of equivocation is the obvious thing.
And then I opened the FRONT DOOR and looked outside and said, "WHAT F'EN WEATHER CRISIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Sci-Fiction Imagination runs deep in the leftards.........................
"In 2020, the Democracy Fund Voter Study Group noted that "one-third (33 percent) of Americans have at some point in the last three years said that they think having 'a strong leader who doesn't have to bother with Congress or elections' would be a good system of government."
How about a poll asking those liberals if having a dictator to lead us is worth not "bothering Congress?"
The author has it backwards. Authoritarian regimes (Russia, China, North Korea, Syria, Brazil, etc.) have atrocious records on the environment. Leading the way on the environment are liberal democracies (Norway, Portugal, France, Japan, New Zealand, etc.). Not surprisingly, the would-be dictator of the US, Trump, set back environmental protections by decades by releasing protected federal lands to oil drilling and other development. So if an American is against selling off nationally protected wetlands and other lands to wealthy campaign contributors, that makes them authoritarian?
Nice try.
"Authoritarian regimes (Russia, China, North Korea, Syria, Brazil, etc.) have atrocious records on the environment."
China leads the world in electric vehicle production, many models aimed at working class customers, not Tesla drivers. The best selling vehicle in China is nicknamed 'froggy' and half a million units have been sold. They go for around $US 4500.
They also have the world's most ambitious nuclear energy program. Who'd have figured? The Chinese like to breathe clean air, after all.
I'm not trying to minimize the sterling efforts of Norway et al, (plus Germany (number two after China in EV production) which you didn't list.)
China has made efforts to clean their environment. They've had to. It had become dangerously dirty, and still is, I'm afraid. I remember flying CAAC, (China Airlines Always Cancels) from Xinjiang to Shanghai. 'Smoking or non smoking' was the standard question world-wide. But not in China. The entire plane was devoted to smokers. The question they did ask was 'spitting or non spitting.'
It's funny. I was just thinking about The Paradox of Tolerance (or rather the meme version that's been going around for years now), and how it could be used to justify anything in the name of someone's pet cause. Then I saw this headline.
"A salient example of this is the COVID-19 pandemic, during which severe limitations on free movement and association have become legitimate techniques of government."
With the outcry in America about stolen elections, loss of "freedom", etc. I don't think that right now environmental issues are at the top of the list.
Patriotism driven too far can have a similar effect, because if it's allowed to prevent elected changes in government, then clearly, they don't want democracy.
If enough people are going to try to prevent "the other side" from getting elected come hell or high water, then it seems on the surface they want an authoritarian government. But it has to be "THEIR" idea of an authoritarian government. Composed of only the leader and representatives THEY like, pushing only the policies THEY like.