Nonwhite Ukrainian Refugees Complain of Unequal Treatment at Borders
Countries across Europe have been praised for their warm welcome toward Ukrainian refugees. But are all refugees treated equally?

Countries across Europe had taken in roughly 600,000 Ukrainian refugees as of March 1 following Russian President Vladimir Putin's ordered invasion of Ukraine. However, nonwhite people fleeing Ukraine claim that ethnic Ukrainians are receiving priority over people of African and Asian descent who were working and living in Ukraine when Russia invaded.
Rachel Onyegbule, a Nigerian student studying in Ukraine, told CNN that she and other non-Ukrainians were forced off a bus at the Polish border and made to wait while their seats were given to ethnic Ukrainians. "More than 10 buses came and we were watching everyone leave. We thought after they took all the Ukrainians they would take us, but they told us we had to walk, that there were no more buses and told us to walk," Onyegbule told CNN.
An Indian medical student who had nearly finished medical school in Ukraine when Russia invaded told CNN, "They allow 30 Indians only after 500 Ukrainians get in. To get to this border you need to walk 4 to 5 kilometers from the first checkpoint to the second one. Ukrainians are given taxis and buses to travel, all other nationalities have to walk."
ABC News reported Wednesday that third-country nationals who have made it from Ukraine into Poland have been physically harassed by ethno-nationalists.
The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees posted a statement on Twitter calling for equal treatment of all refugees regardless of ethnicity. "As numbers of refugees fleeing Ukraine increase by the hour, it is crucial that receiving countries continue to welcome all those fleeing conflict and insecurity - irrespective of nationality and race - and that they receive adequate international support to carry out this task," the statement reads.
The recent history of immigration through Eastern Europe is rife with ethnic discrimination. Hungarian President Viktor Orbán has used anti-immigrant sentiment to consolidate political power, and Poland has accused Belarus of using migrants from the Middle East and North Africa as leverage against the European Union.
In December, Dalhousie University researchers Raluca Bejan and Salim Nabi wrote in The Conversation that E.U. policy allowed Belarus to take advantage of the Dublin Agreement by opening its borders to migrants to cross into the E.U. through Poland. The Dublin Agreement attaches asylum claims to migrant point-of-entry into the E.U. Therefore, if a migrant were to first arrive in Poland, he would have to file for asylum there and not proceed to Germany, for example.
Alexander Lukashenko, who has ruled Belarus since 1994, is believed to have opened the border to migrants as retaliation for E.U. sanctions that followed his squashing of protests against his 2020 reelection.
In 2017, the E.U. attempted to relieve pressure on overburdened Southern European countries by proportionally relocating Middle Eastern and North African migrants across the E.U. Poland and Hungary refused to participate.
Eastern European countries say they are reluctant to take in migrants because they lack the infrastructure necessary to provide adequate housing and services. They argue that countries such as France have a greater capacity to deal with this problem.
Europe's difficulties absorbing Middle Eastern and North African refugees and immigrants have bolstered right-wing parties and governments across the continent. It's no wonder, then, that Russia's invasion of Ukraine has brought out both the best and worst in Europe's ethno-nationalists.
"These are not the refugees we are used to…these people are Europeans," Bulgarian Prime Minister Kiril Petkov told reporters. "These people are intelligent, they are educated people.…This is not the refugee wave we have been used to, people we were not sure about their identity, people with unclear pasts, who could have been even terrorists."
Filippo Grandi, the U.N. high commissioner for refugees, has asked Eastern European leaders to treat third-country nationals as they do ethnic Ukrainians. "There should be absolutely no discrimination between Ukrainians and non-Ukrainians. Europeans and non-Europeans. Everybody is fleeing from the same risks."
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If an American citizen is working in the Ukraine and is forced to flee when violence breaks out. They aren't a refugee. Why does the same not apply to citizens of other countries.
See Afghanistan for how we talk about Americans fleeing violence in other countries.
Ukraine Invaded! Blacks And Trans Women Hardest Hit!
When all you have is a hammer...
Between the NBC trans article and this one, I don't know which has captured the New York Times spirit best.
^This x 1000
"When all you have is a hammer..."
This. Im at the point where I dont even read to see if their point might be true, I just assume its hyperbole / narrative pushing. My pavlovian reaction is an instant eyeroll and distrust.
Your instincts are correct, though you did say it the polite way
Go the fuck home.
You're not a 'refugee'. You're an exchange student or a migrant worker or an illegal.
Go home.
There's no need to be ugly or not show compassion. This may merely be the result if entirely bureaucratic processes.
Ukraine isn't a total 3rd world country. They have things like passports, ids, documents. A Ukrainian refugee undoubtedly will have some passports or identifying documentation. But North African immigrant, especially if they were there illegally might not have any paperwork, so how do you sort out who's coming from where and who has a legitimate claim to asylum. It doesn't seem odd or strange to me at all that non-Ukraine citizens might be stuck at the back of the line where someone with a Ukraine passport gets a passport scan and quick not and goes to the next stage of processing.
This may merely be the result if entirely bureaucratic processes.
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It doesn't seem odd or strange to me at all that non-Ukraine citizens might be stuck at the back of the line where someone with a Ukraine passport gets a passport scan and quick not and goes to the next stage of processing.
*slams bolt home on kultural assault weapon*
Colonized Africans got in line and everybody knows Slavs and Pollocks don't queue for shit.
No, it's the result of not wanting these people to evade immigration controls in the other countries they are fleeing too.
They're also not refugees - they can always just go home.
Beyond that, the number of non-white Ukrainian and Russian citizens is neglible.
I don't see any mutual exclusion going on between the two ideas and, as I pointed out, even others.
If one culture queues and the other doesn't the queueing culture is literally going to self-select to the back of the line.
If native Ukranians all have families and immigrants generally don't, larger numbers of Ukranians are going to clear customs out of hand.
If the Polish border guard has to check the same Ukranian passport he checks every day, he's going to do it a lot quicker than the passport he's never seen before. Especially since the Ukranian clearly has nowhere else to go while the other passport clearly does.
I can understand missing the message for want to shoot the messenger but, "Stop Trying To Make Ukraine About Your Culture War".
The lack of "queuing" (my God, that word just looks gross) reminds me of a Turkish airport I flew from in 2005. Just a complete blob of people, somehow making it through with no violence despite the lack of linear order. Me and 2 other guys had to literally box out part of the crowd to keep them from knocking over a little girl and her grandmother.
Emergence research repeatedly shows that strictly in terms of flow, queuing is not de facto more efficient and frequently less efficient that just massing. There are cases, where items have to be dispensed in order, according to priority status, or there's ordered dispersal after entry where queuing is more equitable at no additional cost or even necessary, but in terms of getting a mass of people from one side of a wall to the other through a narrow portal you can't beat the mob without exerting copious amounts of overhead in logistics and control.
It's certainly not polite and can be dangerous, but if those things, or just the risk of them, don't matter to you as much as, say, getting out of a war zone, it's not at all unreasonable to avoid queuing.
My point being - why are these people going to Poland rather than back to their home countries?
And why is this an issue for, say, Indian medical students who didn't get out in time but not for Americans who did not flee Afghanistan early enough?
Nobody gave a fuck about them or the fact that maybe they get more than just the taxis passing them by when they try to cross the border.
My point being - why are these people going to Poland rather than back to their home countries?
"Please wait here for the next flight to Pakistan/India/Nigeria." still inherently means not getting into Poland before a bunch of Ukranians.
My "knock off the culture war bullshit" was aimed as much, if not more, at Walker as at you.
why are these people going to Poland rather than back to their home countries?
To be fair, I doubt there are many international flights out of Ukraine these days. If they wanted to get back home, they'd have to go through a neighboring country to do it.
Poland may be the nearest functional airport.
And given the airspace between Poland and India, they might have to get the connecting flight.
> They're also not refugees - they can always just go home.
I mean... yes, but doing so may involve leaving the country that is having its airports bombed first. Presumably into another country.
If you have to flee because the place you were living is being bombed, you are at least temporarily a refugee, even if you ultimately have somewhere to go.
People who are on vacation at Disneyland can still end up as refugees even if the M9.5 earthquake that rips LA apart doesn't touch their house in Maine.
No we don't. Quite literally we don't. If a earthquake hit Disney world. We'd read headlines like "Disney World Guests Stranded by Earthquake" "Visitors to Disney World Unable to get home while airports recover". We wouldn't call them refugees, because the term refugee refers to people fleeting their homes.
We wouldn't even call college students refugees if their dorms exploded, because we understand that their current living arrangements are inherently temporary.
Also, even if you strained the definition of refugee. You wouldn't call a visitor from Maine caught up in the disaster a Floridian refugee.
What do you mean? You think it’s safe to take a flight home in Ukraine? The country that is getting bombed and where planes are shot down? Why do you think people are walking to polish border instead of flying? Also it’s not really easy to “walk back to India” when southern Ukraine is controlled by Russia and the Black Sea, and eastern Ukraine is being invaded by Russia.
What do you mean? You think it’s safe to take a flight home in Ukraine? The country that is getting bombed and where planes are shot down? Why do you think people are walking to polish border instead of flying? Also it’s not really easy to “walk back to India” when southern Ukraine is controlled by Russia and the Black Sea, and eastern Ukraine is being invaded by Russia!
Woke alert..virtue signaling alert
There's no need to be ugly or not show compassion. This may merely be the result if entirely bureaucratic processes.
Honestly, it really isn't. It's good old civic nationalism--the Ukrainians are prioritizing Ukrainians first, unless non-Ukrainians happen to have a bunch of money or gold to bribe the border guards.
They aren't going to give a single solitary fuck about people who aren't one of them, and have been telling those folks to get to the back of the line to let the Ukrainians go ahead of them.
How do you propose they get home besides going to a safe European country and getting on a plane/etc there?
No commercial flights out of Ukraine, land and sea borders are either with controlled or fighting with Russia except the ones they're trying to cross. What do you expect them to do? Go drive through Russia to get out?
This article is about not even allowing them into other countries, not about granting them residency.
"Poland has accused Belarus of using migrants from the Middle East and North Africa as leverage against the European Union."
Don't talk like it's a spurious allegation, you weasely fuck. Lukashenko flew those people directly into Belarus and dumped them in the woods on the Polish border and told them to get out.
Why doesn’t Poland want to be enriched?
Poland has a long history of being enriched by people coming over their borders.
So he pulled a Mexico?
Man, this is gonna be a tough one for open societies foundation to figure out which side it's on.
So the people most likely to be shot by Russians are getting to leave first?
No doubt, racism at it's purest.
If Russia was attacking Nigeria would the Nigerians help the Ukrainians out the door first?
It's certainly a question worth exploring. I don't know anything about the Nigerian immigration and border control system. It's possible the Nigerians wouldn't even be particularly helpful to Nigerians.
not if that Michele O. #bringbackourgirls meme was in any way true
Off topic, but I've never met a boring Nigerian. They're always a blast to hang around with.
Nigerian princes would buy each of them their own private jet.
But they'd have to wire some money to clear the administrative fees, first.
The Spanish Prisoner is Steve Martin at his finest.
Corey Walker is discovering that America might not be an outlier when it comes to racism and is shocked, *shocked*, to discover that racism is common in Europe.
There are multiple enlightened, egalitarian, woke countries that during soccer matches, throw bananas and make monkey sounds toward African teams. Every game.
But Kaepernick was basically a slave and the left thinks racism happened to him in America
Serious question: Among the refugees coming out of Ukraine, what percentage are fighting-aged males?
Supposedly none. They've been ordered to stay and fight.
So that's where we should've flown the transports from Afghanistan...
Russian oligarchs have been moving their yachts to the Maldives and Seychelles to avoid them being seized, since there's no extradition treaty there.
Apparently one is also in Montenegro now, for the same reason. Just one little complication - Montenegro is part of NATO. Let's see how this works out.
Let's see how this works out.
It's funny sometimes how things get arranged on the "plate 'o shrimp". I was just thinking last night about the movie Tomorrow Never Dies and how Jeff Bezos paid Rotterdam to dismantle a bridge for his megayacht.
Tomorrow Never Dies
Was that the one where the media starts a war?
Not exactly the media, a tech billionaire media mogul and, more importantly, not just starting a war but starting a war to craft and control a self-perpetuating narrative/empire about the war.
It struck me as quaint/funny in the Dr. Evil "One. Million. Dollars." sense that, in this day and age, we have probably at least a dozen people who fit the description, working together for all we know.
working together for all we know
Explicitly on the warmongering narrative, that is. Plenty of evidence to support the notion that they're working together otherwise.
Gratitude is the key to happiness.
I suspect these 'refugees' were unhappy at home and are not likely to be very happy in their new home either.
Your first sentence makes some sense.
Your second sentence is a collection of words that amount to gibberish. Sometimes circumstances are more exigent and fundamental than "gratitude" or "happiness."
My first reaction is, did this just happen? Did the racism just start at the border? Was Ukraine a color blind utopia until the invasion?
I kinda doubt it. I bet it was just as racist the day before, the week before, the month before, and every day since they first arrived.
The only difference seems to be that they had a better audience.
Or they are different people with different needs, priorities and issues. Ukrainians fleeing are refugees with nowhere to go and need to be integrated, at least temporarily, in the host country. The Visa holders highlighted all have somewhere else to go and foreign sources of funds to aid them. In a situation like this it may be reasonable to setup for the large influx of the first and deny the second until they have the bandwidth to do the sorting.
Interesting. I'd vote you Insightful on slashdot.
Here's prima facie proof of discrimination -- there are zero Guatemalans among the Ukranian refugees. Although maybe Fiona Harrigan chartered a plane to fly them over here.
https://twitter.com/ZubyMusic/status/1499419624672305154?t=tRiTXYlyCtPM-XIze7h-sA&s=19
A significant % of the population can be brainwashed into believing/supporting anything, even if it makes no sense, provided it is promoted through the right channels.
And they don't even realise this is happening... That's why propaganda works so effectively.
If you wonder how so many crazy and dark things have happened throughout history, it's usually due to this phenomenon, combined with the power of fear and the desire to conform.
Propaganda works particularly well when it hijacks a pre-existing bias or belief about an idea, individual, or group.
Nobody is completely immune to this, but some are way more susceptible than others.
Critical independent thinking is the inoculation.
some are way more susceptible than others
Filthy science deniers. Both sides!
Gonna drop this here. If you haven't found him, check out ole' Razorfist...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3GV65jLUFg
Yea, he's spot on. Sometimes I wish I was wired toward the necessary compliance. Seems like it's easier.
Reminds of the quote from Sin City that always stuck with me, Powers Boothe saying "Power don't come from a badge or a gun. Power comes from lying. Lying big, and gettin' the whole damn world to play along with you. Once you got everybody agreeing with what they know in their hearts ain't true, you've got 'em by the balls."
https://twitter.com/SohrabAhmari/status/1499384870358953995?t=SJdj3zMQPjsqPjn-Dyn0DA&s=19
Even taking into account the experience of the last few years, we’ve never been subjected to such a barrage of Western media propaganda, hysteria, wishcasting-as-analysis, cheap moralism and straight-up fake news (a la the Snake Island martyrs).
I read the prestige papers, British and US, and every day, the message, blared loudly and univocally, is Russian military failure: “The offensive is stalling, faltering, setbacks!”
The following day, they concede, “OK, actually, they made more gains — but today they’ll lose!”
And the editorial pages, my God, the range of opinion is between moderately pro-escalation to pro-nuclear Holocaust to defend “democracy.”
And people who I would’ve thought had learned the lessons of “collusion,” COVID, etc. are going along — again.
Professionally speaking, when you enjoy it, it's called prostitution. And it's only been bizarre for over 4000 yrs.
we’ve never been subjected to such a barrage of Western media propaganda, hysteria, wishcasting-as-analysis, cheap moralism and straight-up fake news
Covid, Fiery But Mostly Peaceful Protests, Insurrection, etc. The levels of Ukraine war propaganda we're seeing is par for the course these days. The only difference is that it's in a foreign country so Americans are less able to find out what's actually happening on the ground.
No, if par=consistently escalating, I guess so.
Because the Ukraine propaganda has already surpassed covid.
Right, because if you have 49 peaceful protests for every 1 protest turned into a riot, that one is actually the "mostly" and the 99 is negligible. How could people be so stupid to think 49 in 50 is mostly?!?!
Talk about brainwashed by propaganda.
https://twitter.com/_BarringtonII/status/1499467079354916866?t=HlvYgZrySfObvJbx5PeHRA&s=19
This is disrespectful. And honestly I think this entire ordeal is predictive programming to a one world government agenda. Americans putting Ukrainian flags in their social media headers now this. Why would you do this to the American flag?
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https://twitter.com/graceisforyou/status/1499438595865649171?t=P8VIRGb-LORDG-frtoxIuQ&s=19
My friend’s parents, who are Russian immigrants to the US, were speaking Russian to each other in a restaurant when someone approached them and said a number of rude things to them. They’ve decided it’s not safe to speak Russian for now.
I'm just gonna leave this here
https://twitter.com/AuronMacintyre/status/1497989387795185669?t=nIH-AvpEum5nbllQ7nhMZQ&s=19
Oh, you must've missed the defacing of the statue Don Quixote because he was a white colonizer.
Orwell was right. We need our 2 minutes hate.
So I saw the headline, read the story, and my response is:
Could be true. Could be shitty news vendors taking a complex situation, oversimplifying it, and pushing a narrative.
And I will probably never know the truth.
Is Reason a race grievance journal now? What’s the liberty angle?
Being a refugee is a bummer.
Based on this and the article about Indian adoptions published later, maybe this is becoming a race grievance journal.
Some people have a hard time keeping a sense of proportion.
A million people chased out of their country by a homicidal authoritarian with a nuclear arsenal.
But what about gay marriage?
There are many things that average people can be forgiven for not knowing, between being focused on issues close to home, and the mainstream media not telling them, but everyone really should have known by now that Ukraine and Poland are racist AF.
So is most of Europe, tbh. At least by American sensibilities. It's pretty rich when France and Germany want to lecture the US over perceived Civil Rights abuses.
Look, everybody (you) can be all friendly-like when things are going well. When things turn to crap, people fall back on their gut feelings and quit thinking, start looking out for their 'own'. I lived in the most tolerant country in the world, The Netherlands for 14 years. Everyone was very nice, until there was an accident or a fight or something, and then they would *automatically* switch to protect-their-own mode. If strangers invade your home town, all 'strangers' are going to get put to the back of the courtesy line. This isn't a racist thing. It's a tribal thing. It's sad, but it isn't special. When it's your turn, try to be better, but don't expect others will. And, don't get angry. Save your strength. Keep your head.
It's a tribal thing.
It's more fundamental than that. "Think globally. Act locally" is a nice platitude but you'd die before reaching a global consensus on taking your next breath. Even if everyone on Earth wanted you to live.
Maybe the guards at the border think that Nigerian and Indian students should be fleeing back to NIGERIA and INDIA, not heading deeper into Europe instead.
And can't they travel through Russia instead? After all, they are from countries that are not at war with Russia. Russia isn't going to detain them.
The headline says nonwhite refugees treated differently....then the actual facts in the article say Ukrainian nationals treated differently. These are not the same story and carry very different implications.
If there were both white and black Ukrainians (like we have in America), and they were treated differently, then that would be "nonwhite Ukrainians treated differently."
If non-Ukrainians whites and nonwhites are currently treated differently (not apparent in the facts of the story), that would be "nonwhites from other countries from harder to leave Ukraine than whites from other countries."
But the facts are actually this, "non-Ukrainians finding it hard to enter Poland than Ukrainians." Um, yeah? A big so what.
change *from harder* to *find it harder* and
"finding it hard* to *finding it harder*
I guess I should proofread. The same phrase got me both times. Something psychological about that.
I'll get concerned about this issue the day that all affirmative action policies are canceled, when all taxpayer supported black studies programs are defunded, when all anti-white critical race indoctrination is ended, and all statues torn down by BLM are restored.
Until then, do not waste my time talking about "discrimination."
We are trying to be more like Europe.
Skin color is the most important thing now.
Your average Ukrainian and Russian has the elevated race consciousness of David Duke.
I don't mean to portray David Duke as sharp or anything but this is, IMO, a misestimation of a moving target or shooting a moving target from a moving platform. Maybe better to pull the pin and toss a "poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as Ukranians and Russians".
My sister has lived in Prague for 25 years and my ex brother in law is from Sierra Leone. Nephew was a stud little soccer player and they are very serious about football. He won the Golden Boot at a 40 team tournament in Warsaw. She admitted he got called for phantom fouls constantly, the Slavs weren't all that keen on a Halfrican being the best player on the field. Ironically she is very liberal, loved Obama and really thinks the Europeans are far more civilized than us rrrrracist Neanderthals in the colonies. Slight exaggeration but even though she's very sharp she just can't see (or maybe more accept) the irony.
The difference is that Putin is breaking something that was not already broken. The level of outrage and concern and urgency would be this high if (the very non-white skinned) Taiwan were being attacked. Once Putin is stopped, the Ukrainians go home.
As far as the border confusion, seems more a case of local security cop types taking their orders to prioritize "Ukrainian" refugees too literally, more a security cop problem, not a racism problem.
He seems to have mutated into a superhuman racist, but my understanding is that superhuman racism is not uncommon in that part of the world.
My assessment, having sat through similarly, but not quite, awkward superhuman racist situations, superhuman racism floats in the background of human DNA wherever it exists and you just happen to be friends with the superhuman racist, and sexist version of Bruce Banner.
Seriously, unless your Ukranian friend is known to walk around armed and similarly hostile, I would've no shit laughed in his face if he said that. Dude, take that shit outside, I don't want to have to clean the carpets.
I am not surprised you are friends with a "superhuman" racist.
That may be how it starts, but those people become all in committed fast. That's how you get atrocities.
Looking back over the conversation, I'm pretty sure the Solomon Grundy of racists is currently the most popular President ever.
I knew a lot of them in grad school, except it was white people that they were racist against.
Yeah, I don't mean to be too hard on Slavs and Pollocks. I very much approve of the 120 lb. women dressed to the nines in 3" heels every time I walk into big box hardware stores.