The Supreme Court Fight We Should Be Having
There are more productive things to argue about than identify politics.

President Joe Biden's vow to nominate a black woman to replace retiring Justice Stephen Breyer on the U.S. Supreme Court has sparked a predictable partisan fight about identity politics. But there is a more productive Supreme Court fight that we should be having.
To be sure, the background of a judicial nominee does matter. Take Clarence Thomas. When the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in 2003 about a state law that criminalized the burning of a cross "with the intent of intimidating any person or group of persons," Thomas spoke from personal experience about the horrors of growing up in Jim Crow America. The law at issue in Virginia v. Black was intended to counteract "almost 100 years of lynching and activity in the South" by the Ku Klux Klan and other racist groups, Thomas told the hushed courtroom. "This was a reign of terror, and the cross was a symbol of that reign of terror." Race comes up again and again in Thomas' writings, speeches, and opinions. As I noted a few years ago, "many of his critics may be too ignorant to know it, but Thomas' writings are steeped in African-American history and grapple repeatedly with the long shadow cast by slavery and Jim Crow."
Speaking of those critics, Biden, who was chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee when Thomas' SCOTUS nomination came around, was not exactly gung-ho about that particular black nominee making history. In fact, Biden did what he could to prevent Thomas from becoming the Court's second black justice, including ripping Thomas' words out of context in an effort to paint the conservative jurist as a crazy libertarian.
So, as Biden himself clearly knows, race is not the only factor when it comes to Supreme Court confirmations.
Which brings us to the Supreme Court fight that we should be having. With limited exceptions, a SCOTUS nominee from a Democratic (or Republican) president can be expected to vote in predictable ways in certain types of cases, such as those dealing with hot-button favorites like abortion and guns. That's just reality.
But there is one large and very important category of cases in which a judge's partisan affiliation does not tell the whole story. That category is criminal justice. For example, on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit, judges appointed by President Donald Trump have clashed repeatedly with each other in recent years over qualified immunity for cops. Likewise, Republican-appointed federal judges on multiple appellate courts (and SCOTUS) have butted heads repeatedly in recent years over the Fourth Amendment. Criminal justice cases have divided the "conservative" judiciary.
The same thing is happening on the other side of the judicial aisle. Take the man of the hour, Breyer. A Democratic appointee, Breyer was sometimes less "liberal" on criminal justice than the late Justice Antonin Scalia, a Republican judicial pick. Why? Because Breyer's penchant for judicial deference sometimes led him to give law enforcement the benefit of the doubt in major Fourth Amendment cases. By contrast, Justice Sonia Sotomayor, a Democratic appointee like Breyer, sided with Scalia over Breyer in those same cases and has since established herself as perhaps the biggest Fourth Amendment hawk on the current Court.
So let's fight about judicial philosophy and criminal justice and exactly what sort of judge Biden is going to pick. Will she follow in Breyer's Fourth Amendment footsteps? Will she follow in Sotomayor's? Where does she stand on qualified immunity? Will she be the rare justice with a background as a public defender? These things are worth fighting about.
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A black woman? Why stop there? Why not a black trans woman paraplegic with down syndrome and lupis? We gotta get solid representation here. After all, this is about representation, not about selecting a competent justice of the court.
I Wanna just do it
Somebody give that man a Coke.
Sans pubic hair?
*Alleged* pubic hair!
Whose footsteps will she follow in?
The evel retarded bryer
Or the retarded and evil Sotomayor
Writer must have lived under rock the last 40 years. Unless they have written opinions or have given speeches on those issues, no nominee will tell you what they are going to do if they become a Justice and hear such a case of 'qualified immunity' or any other issue.
He should nominate the fat illiterate girl that the procecuters used to pretend to be trevons gf in the Zimmerman case.
That would fit a Biden nomination perfectly. Although she is probably ore competent than most of his administration.
This is an opportunity for Senate Republicans to act as cheerleaders for whichever nominee Biden comes up with. Agreement will some to the Democrats like someone pushing on a door being opened from the other side, unexpected and unbalancing. What is their game? Why are they doing this?
Since the Democrats have the votes to confirm anyway, this would screw with their heads and possibly slightly influence the nominee to not automatically hate Republicans.
Of course, if Biden insists on a nominee that Manchin and Sinema couldn't possibly support, then all goes back to normal.
It doesn't matter, the person he will nominate raped me at a highschool party. I forgot about it up until now because it was a repressed memory
You aren't supposed to reveal that information -- though you have it in your possession -- until AFTER the official interviewing process done in front of the public is concluded.
Has more impact when you do it as a last minute emergency like that.
They might not have those votes. A Team D senator just had a stroke. They have 49 votes.
"So let's fight about judicial philosophy and criminal justice and exactly what sort of judge Biden is going to pick. "
Root, this is a wonderfully optimistic line.
As if the Democrat's embracing identity politics has nothing to do with judicial philosophy. As has been pointed out Critical Race Theory starts as a legal theory of everything.
It is amazing that the fights in Congress on nominees often focus on a few issues and really leave some much untouched. This often leaves people scratching their heads and wondering why a justice voted a particular way. The realty of course is that a particular nominee's opinions on business taxes is far less interesting that abortion or guns but may have far greater consequences.
"Biden, who was chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee when Thomas' SCOTUS nomination came around, was not exactly gung-ho about that particular black nominee making history"
Well yes. The last thing affluent white Democrats want is for minorities to see their skin tones represented with a diversity of opinion. That is why they persecute *any* minority who doesn't represent the will of the plantation.
Also Relevant:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/01/biden-black-woman-janice-rogers-brown/
I didn't look at the comments because -- Wapo. But considering where that was posted, that article is probably a hell of a great jimmy rustler.
And it shows that at least one opinion writer remembers that Biden is a naked partisan above all else. Always has been.
The fight starts and stops with Jim Clyburn. He alone decides on the final pick. All the rest is gobbledygook.
A-yup.
Clyburn delivered the black votes to Brandon for the Nomination, the Empty Vessel will return the favor to Clyburn's pick.
The idea that we have justice on both sides that are motivated by policies outcomes, with some legal gray areas in the middle, is absurd.
Republicans have nominated judges that have generally tried to stay closer to the meaning and intent of the Constitution, but constrained by precedent and tradition.
Democrats have nominated judges whose explicit objective is to legislate from the bench and who view the Constitution as something they can ignore or reinterpret as they like.
And there won’t be any discussion. Biden is going to nominate another such radical leftists and the Senate is going to confirm.
Rather than hoping for a moderate nomination, the best would be to get someone even dumber and more racist than Sotomayor. It won’t make any difference on actual outcomes, but hopefully more people will come to despise those kinds of justices.
Exactly. RBG was, and Sotomayer is, often explicit in their views that cases should be decided on public policy considerations. Example: Sotomayer expounding on the health consequences of not allowing OSHA’s COVID order to stand.
Yeah, that lost her whatever shred of credibility I might have given her. I think it was Gorsuch who chastised her with the the comment about it not being a rebuke of policy but a constitutional question of who actually has the authority to make policy.
This.
Too many judges approach the problem with "Is my ruling a good idea?", not "is my ruling founded in law?".
We deserve the Congress we elect even when they do nothing but bad ideas. Judges need to have the self control to let lawful but bad ideas get implemented, while also squashing ideas they like that happen to be unlawful. I get that they're scared about making the country worse, but if a ruling actually does that to any significant degree Congress will either act or get replaced with people who will.
Yup. Between 0.0-0.1% of Democratic nominees follow proper Constitutional authority. Around 50% of Republican nominees do. So at least with a Republican nominee, a constitutionalist has a fighting chance.
It won’t make any difference on actual outcomes, but hopefully more people will come to despise those kinds of justices.
You say this like emanations and prenumbras, widely regarded as wrongly-decided, aren't currently superprecedent that have yet to be defeated.
What I’m saying is that in order for anything to change, people need to come to despise the kind of judges that wrote those decisions.
So, from that point of view, Republicans should welcome Biden nominating from the bottom of the barrel, intellectually and morally. Another Sotomayor would be perfect.
"There are more productive things to argue about than identify politics."
But since neither Biden, nor his woke left wing socialist totalitarian and racist handlers haven't proposed (nor endorsed) any sound public policies ever since he launched his presidential campaign, they've resorted to falsely accusing all Republicans, most whites and anyone else who disagrees with them on anything of being a white supremacist.
Biden's past and his ongoing lies about racism demonstrate that he is the most racist president since Woodrow Wilson.
Meanwhile, Putin, Xi and the Iranian mullahs realize that Biden is one of (if not) the weakest and worst presidents in US history, and are preparing to take some strategic geopolitical military actions.
Joe Biden is the worst president ever.
"President Joe Biden's vow to nominate a black woman to replace retiring Justice Stephen Breyer on the U.S. Supreme Court has sparked a predictable partisan fight about identity politics."
Just ignore the patronizing racism and sexism inherent in Biden's declaration.
just checked
So, the nominee's primary attribute is going to be black woman so at what point do we talk about THAT being the qualifier and not their judicial opinions?
Of course, the odd's Biden would pick a black woman who is also conservative to be a part of the court is just about zero so maybe the race and sex of the pick is just optics for the rubes...
I wonder which is worse?
Again, it's pretty offensive that Root acts as though libertarians/the Reason readership is the one who's been saying "We really need a black, female justice."
Especially after Robby, Dalmia, ENB, and the majority of the rest of the writers have spent the last decade 'tobesuring' everybody even remotely alt-right and men's rights adjacent off of the forum and out of their rights.
"To be sure, the background of a judicial nominee does matter."
I am sure they are to some people, but not Biden apparently. You could place one person of both genders and every race in front of him and tell him to pick one and he will immediately pick the black female regardless of anything else. He said so himself. It. Will. Be. A. Black. Woman. Nothing else matters.
The nominee must be a Leftist Black Woman. Biden is not going to nominate a Black Woman whose views, to any degree, fail to match those of Leftwing orthodoxy.
Biden probably thinks all black women think alike. Maybe he'll nominate a Constitutionalist by mistake. Not that his handlers would let that happen or the Senate confirm her, but that would be funny.
White Males Need Not Apply, Diaspora Ashkenazis Not Excepted
Re: "as Biden himself clearly knows, race is not the only factor when it comes to Supreme Court confirmations."
Who argues that race is the *only* factor?
The issue, much rather, is whether the pool of candidates may/should be limited expressly and a priori using race and sex as exclusion criteria, which are largely immutable birth-based personal attributes that are not proxies of merit.
What message does it send when the U.S. President excludes on account of sex and race? And how does acting on such professed exclusionary commitments not constitute evidence of sexism and racism as applied, respectively?
No issue here even of divining true motive or pretext.
Perfect.
The woke left wing socialist racist media propagandists are now heavily promoting (and defending) Brian Flores' lawsuit claiming the NFL is racist (because he got fired by the Dolphins and because there is now just one black NFL coach: Mike Tomlin).
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33201180/brian-flores-nfl-lawsuit-prove-systemic-racism-know-claims-sham-interviews-incentivizing-tanking-plus-next
But in fact, NFL teams hire, fire, promote and demote coaches
(just as they hire and fire players) based upon their performance on the field during games.
Ironically, if Flores wins his lawsuit, wouldn't that also mean that blacks can only comprise 13% of NFL players (70% are now black) since only 13% of Americans are black) and that NFL has been discriminating against whites, Hispanics and Asians for decades?
It appears that the same lame left wing media propagandists who have praised Biden every time he falsely accuses Republicans and whites of being racists have swiftly jumped on the left wing racist bandwagon cheering on the bogus racial discrimination lawsuit by Brian Flores.
Seems like the media is now praising Flores's lawsuit just as they praised Colin Kaepernick (when he protested every time the National Anthem was played before an NFL game) and BLM (after BLM race rioters destroyed hundred/thousands of properties and killed a dozen innocent people).
The NFL's so gay that I can't wait until we get to a point where it's being cited for public indecency in the shady corners of public parks.
There have been 25 black head coaches in the NFL since 2000.
Most of those coaches had losing records in the NFL, several had modest winning records, but only two of those coaches had impressive winning records (i.e. Tony Dungy retired to become an announcer, and Mike Tomlin who has never had a losing season in Pittsburgh).
That's not racial discrimination, but rather an excellent example of just how competitive NFL coaching and playing jobs are to get and keep.
If the NFL believed in diversity and equity they would get rid of most of the black players and add more Latinos and Asians. Maybe a few more honkies.
A nice diversity pick would be someone not from an Ivy League school.
There are more productive things to argue about than identify politics.
Kind of... Kind of...
So, as Biden himself clearly knows, race is not the only factor when it comes to Supreme Court confirmations.
That appears to be a false statement based on the primary criteria that Biden has publicly declared he's using to make his pick. Are we to not believe him?
Which brings us to the Supreme Court fight that we should be having. With limited exceptions, a SCOTUS nominee from a Democratic (or Republican) president can be expected to vote in predictable ways in certain types of cases, such as those dealing with hot-button favorites like abortion and guns. That's just reality.
Yes, but when the Democrat (or Republican) seriously limits his (or her in this case) field of options because the #1 criterion for making the choice is race, then the worries about qualifications loom very, very large. Don't make this more complicated than it is.
Oh, and the 'pool-limiting' aspect is even worse in this case, because he's publicly stated he will ONLY choose a black WOMAN as a judge. So now your potential pool is becoming breathtakingly small. What are the chances that you'll find a qualified candidate? And in a few years, when they declare they'll only pick a black, trans woman...
Just power up your brain with one tiny but of extra juice and you can understand this perfectly:
Every president for hundreds of years chose supreme court justices with the explicit intention to exclude all races but one. And mostly all religions but one and so forth.
They just didn't have to say it out loud.
You just literally made a case in favor of racism.
So it's not racist that literally every supreme court justice and president and senator and representative for hundreds of years, with few exceptions, was a white dude, because nobody said "We only take white dudes here"?
Elections have consequences - Barack Hussein Obama
Say what you will, but he nailed that one. I don't think you should vote against someone simply because of judicial philosophy. Unless there is something disqualifying, the POTUS is entitled to make his choices, subject to advice and consent from the Senate. A few other thoughts. One, a Team D senator had a stroke earlier this week and is hospitalized. Team D has 49 votes. They cannot do anything right now. Two, add to that, there is no love for Team D colleagues from Senators Sinema and Manchin. Team D's ostracism will bite them.
Senator McConnell has been unusually quiet. You think that is an accident? 🙂
This is exactly what Biden promised from his basement during the campaign.
You all wanted it, now you are getting it.
Own it stop your unsightly whining.
So let's fight about judicial philosophy and criminal justice and exactly what sort of judge Biden is going to pick.
Root, to whom are you speaking here?
Biden: I'm going to pick a black, female nominee.
Nutjobs: Right on!
Everybody else with even a lick of sense: Uh, shouldn't we pick the nominee based on merit and judicial prudence rather than skin color?
Root: Tobesure, a nominee's race does matter, but we should be picking a candidate based on their qualifications and judicial prudence. Why's it always gotta be about race with you people?
Fuck your fence-sitting bullshit.
Faux fence-sitting. A form of gaslighting really.
There's a typo in the sub-headline. Shouldn't "Identify politics" be "identity politics"?
Yup.
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Mrs. Irving, the victim here, and her family deserve serious compensation, a bunch of money from the city and it’s police department.
As for the PD, they badly need some lessons in proper procedure, which they appear ignorant of.
Biden, as president, a member of the senate or the house was, is and remains a Double Talking Putz.
As for this Qualified Immunity, a judicial construct, correct me should I be wrong, judicial trash that should have been Still Born, or subject to Post Birth Abortion.
I remember watching the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearing and seeing Senator Biden belligerently grilling Thomas about quotes from an interview in Reason magazine. (I think Biden even held up a copy of that edition of Reason for emphasis)
More diversity is absolutely needed. Less Ivy Leaguers and people from New York. Less Catholics as well. Justice Amy Barret was a fabulous choice because she’s not an Ivy leaguer and from the Louisiana.
We’d still benefit from non-Catholic appointees.
THAT'S ALL THE LEFT CARES ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Racism and Sexism...
Same Slave Party -- Different leaders/prejudices.