Democrats Still Have a Way To Pass Their Voting Rights Legislation
Not by changing the filibuster rules, but by stressing them.

Senate Democrats keep trying to change the filibuster rules so they can pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act and the Freedom to Vote Act. They also keep failing, and last week they failed again. So it still takes 60 votes to curtail a filibuster by ending debate on a bill. The Democrats don't have 60 votes in the Senate, so many people declared both bills dead.
But there is still a conceivable way the Democrats could pass their legislation with a simple majority vote. It would take a marathon "talking filibuster" in true Mr. Smith Goes to Washington fashion.
Under the Senate's rules, Republicans can delay a vote as long as they keep the debate alive on the Senate floor. And as Sen. Ted Cruz (R–Texas) and others have demonstrated, it is possible to hold the floor for a long time. But Senate Rule XIX limits the number of speeches a senator can make, stating that "no Senator shall speak more than twice upon any one question in debate on the same legislative day." The Senate's presiding officer must call a vote on a bill when no senators left on floor can speak within the limitations of the rule. After this, a simple majority can pass a bill.
Could the Republicans simply take turns talking until the day is over, then start over again? No, because the Democrats control when the Senate adjourns. A legislative "day" does not end at 5 p.m. Senators have to vote to adjourn the Senate, and this does not have to happen at the end of the calendar day. Democrats can make a legislative day last for multiple calendar days by keeping the Senate in continuous debate on the bill, or by voting for a temporary recess rather than adjourning.
The Democrats have tried to narrow Rule XIX to create a carveout for this specific legislation. In effect, they wanted to strip away Republicans' ability to offer amendments, make motions, and raise points of order during the debate. But Sen. Joe Manchin (D–W.Va.) wasn't on board with this—not because he opposes the "talking filibuster," but because the proposed rule change would substantially limit Republican participation in the legislative process.
Yet Democrats don't need to change the rules to block GOP amendments. They can defeat amendments from Republicans with no debate on a simple majority vote. While Republicans may offer different motions to prolong their filibuster once they have exhausted their two speeches, historical precedent suggests that the effort to do so will be futile. When given the opportunity, senators have never offered amendments—or other motions—indefinitely to postpone a vote.
Manchin and Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D–Ariz.), who have joined the chamber's Republicans in opposing changes to the filibuster, are more likely to support this strategy, since it keeps the Senate's current rule in place. Sinema has stated that she supports the two bills and is opposed only to "eliminating the 60-vote threshold." Manchin has not ruled out supporting the legislation, and he says he supports efforts to increase the pressure on filibustering senators. Speaking on NBC's Meet the Press last year, Manchin commented, "If you want to make it a little bit more painful, make him stand there and talk." It seems that Manchin draws the line at "breaking the rules to change the rules," not at passing voting rights legislation on a simple majority vote.
If Democrats want to pass their voting rights bills, they should listen to Manchin and Sinema and force Republicans to embark on a "talking filibuster". No matter what happens next, Democrats should remember that the filibuster is not a simple roadblock—it's a tool in legislators' arsenal.
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The senate can do away with the filibuster by a simple majority vote, but they won’t, as they haven’t for over 200 years. That’s not a mistake; that’s a policy, enacted by the majority of senators: simple majority rules.
How can a 52-Senator minority hold up Democracy?
Apparently when you want to abolish the senate, redistrict the house, and get rid of the Supreme Court. Then everything will finally be wonderful, since we’ll have one-party rule with no checks and balances.
The actual result would be a full 9n revolution and piles of dead democrats throughout the country. With Americans restoring our constitutional republic.
So that shit is the last thing they should be try8ng.
Democrats don't actually want to pass the bill at this point, they know they can get more mileage in the midterms from it *not* passing
Yeah, they need the bill *not* to pass so they can use it to fuel some more mostly peaceful protests.
I do not recall Reason offering advice on how, under Trump, Republicans can work around Democrat bitching and moaning.
BOAF SIDEZ, GUYS!!!
Vain hope, damikesc. Over the past 1 year or so Reason has morphed from being an ostensibly libertarian outlet to one that allows full-throat to anti-Trump sentiments and has become in fact a part of the Democrat Party's PR mechanism. And they have the chutzpah to periodically request donations. There is less and less reason for a non-drinker of the Kool-Aide to visit this site.
Agreed, sadly. That's why my 25-year subscription is lapsing this cycle.
Why does this article even exist? This is a terrible bill from a libertarian standpoint. Reason should be arguing for its demise, not presenting ways to pass it.
Is it designed to give you ammo when your Demo friends and colleagues start bitching about GOP obstructionism. Nice to know that the Dems have a workaround that they apparently won't use.
One of those bills is not evenly remotely terrible from a libertarian standpoint. The Voting Rights Advancement Act is simply the way to correct the coverage formula of the original Voting Rights Act of 1965 which in turn made the 15th amendment real again and in fact was formally titled "An Act to enforce the 15th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States". There is nothing libertarian about enabling suppression of voting rights.
The other legislation - Freedom to Vote Act - is mostly a bunch of nationalizing crap with the huge exception of a private right of legal action. Nothing makes voting rights more valuable as an individual right than the ability to sue in court. Nothing could possibly be more libertarian. Not that that provision outweighs what is mostly crap.
There is no voter suppression. It is not hard to vote. That is a bunch of bullshit the democrats conjured up to justify legislating voter fraud into law. Just like their constant accusations of ‘racism’ when anything is done or said with which they disagree.
You're wrong. Registering to vote in the US is a set of large decentralized self-initiated hurdles that may well serve a purpose to restrict a particular states eligible voters. But that same decentralization and self-initiation undermines any FEDERAL right to be eligible to vote - which was the obvious purpose of the 15th amendment. A US citizen who moves must become aware of the different voting rules in each state. Rules that are often deliberately made obtuse and invisible - until actual voting day, when those rules often no longer apply for that election. The result is the weakest 'right to be eligible to vote' of any First World country.
As for the hurdles for actual voting, the US is generally OK. Except in those districts where either voting machines are deliberately restricted or registration rolls are overly bureaucratized/politicized. Both for the explicit purpose of creating massively long waiting lines so that people will simply go/remain home instead. THAT is absolutely voter suppression.
Its not who votes, but who counts the votes.
Are long lines at the DMV "driver suppression?" No, they're just SOP government. If you're legal and you want to vote, you can vote.
Someone should mention that the federal government shouldn't force the states to accept mail-in ballots two weeks after election day--regardless of the filibuster.
Anyone who cares about they American people's faith in the election system should oppose the Democrats forcing the states to accept mail in ballots two weeks after election day on a national basis. Are they trying to incite social unrest on a permanent basis? Because that's how you get ants.
How bout one week after the election, can they count those votes? That's the rule in Alabama for military ballot from overseas. They gotta be postmarked by Nov 8 and received within 7 days after election day.
But Alabama is racist. No-go.
Military has an excuse for it taking a while...you know, the GOVERNMENT sending them all over.
Unless civilians have a similar excuse, I see no reason to.
No. It’s election DAY. Not election week, or election month, or election season.
If they don't keep the counters rolling for at least a couple of weeks after election day, how can they determine how many votes they need to manufacture to get the "right result"?
All this for a bill that would be largely held to be unconstitutional.
bonus, then they have a reason to pack that pesky 'activist' supreme court
Yes We Can! Winning!
When are midterms again?
Not nearly soon enough.
"Democrats can make a legislative day last for multiple calendar days by keeping the Senate in continuous debate on the bill, or by voting for a temporary recess rather than adjourning."
So, you're suggesting they lie, in order to pass a federal takeover of state elections, and a bill which includes violations of freedom of speech, among other dubious clauses.
How is this appropriate for a nominally libertarian publication?
Because somewhere along the way they got confused between libertarianism and Marxism and their progressive biases led the way from there
When did libertarianism get confused with supporting the Confederacy and Jim Crow?
If you want to get rid of the people who support those things then get rid of the democrat party.
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I suspect it's at least partly out of a desire to not appear "extreme". That's kinda hard these days, though. Saying that water is wet will trigger somebody.
Yet Democrats don't need to change the rules to block GOP amendments. They can defeat amendments from Republicans with no debate on a simple majority vote.
But herein lies the problem.
The majority party in the Senate, with 50 seats, is the Republicans.
The Dems have 48.
There are two 'independents' who caucus with them, and Harris.
And Manchin and Sinema, who are caucusing with the Republicans, don't seem to offer the same control benefits to the GOP that Sanders and King confer on the Dems for some reason.
Two silly thoughts -
One, the Constitution does not allow Federalization of the voting process. The bill would be tied up in courts long past at least one if not two election cycles.
Two, as the country is so closely divided, why not find the areas of common ground and vote on that? It seems a vote to correct issues with the ECA would be manageable.
Wh is it always up to everyone else to compromise on what the fucking democrats want? We always lose ground to them. It’s time to start taking things away from them and erase the march towards democrat Marxism.
But as we've seen on the EPA scrubber act, and the OSHA mandate act, and the bump stocks not-even-an-act, it will all be in place and operating, with guns to people's heads, while the courts dither about who has standing, and who has precedence, and whether they will or won't take a case from one party, or another party, or whatever. Probably until long after the next election is held under the "new" rules. By that's point, they'll just let the effort silently evaporate, like Grassley and Issa let Fast & Furious silently evaporate. And the Democrats get their way again.
why are you giving them ideas?
next do a piece on how 48 > 50
2+2 = 5
So 40 = 50, and 8 = 10.
60 > 50.
/Prog Math
I figured you engineers could do it. my s.o. has an applied math degree she showed me once how parallel lines will intersect ... I stopped mathing that day.
Was she doing spherical geometry? That was a fun class.
Bernie explained how out of fifty senate votes, only two of them are against this. So they have 96% for the bill.
Why do headlines all say Voting Rights?
I honestly don't know of anyone legally entitled to vote who cannot vote. I don't see any legal disenfranchisement of anyone, anywhere.
Whose Rights are in need of further legislation? It may be laws regarding voting, but it's not Voting Rights, and repeating that in every headline gives a pretty misleading representation of something that is more about federalizing something that has been reserved to states.
Why do headlines all say Voting Rights?
That is my questing as well. What voting problem is this bill seeking to solve and how will it do so? If that cannot be answered coherently then it is corrupt garbage.
It is really sinister to give harmful bills names that imply the opposite of what they really intend to do.
I guess the tactic works as intended, because lots of people who have no idea what is in the bill support it because "voting rights" are a good thing.
But it seems to be written to make cheating in elections easy and less detectable, and to make voter's confidence in the whole process collapse.
Just remember that whatever they do will be done to them when they are no longer the majority party.
Their intention is to become the permanent majority - of ballots counted if not of actual eligible voters.
So why don't Democrats simply repeal Nixon's Anti-Libertarian Law? You know... the one that rips you off to use the IRS to subsidize pelf, boodle and media ads for "both" halves of The Kleptocracy?
"Democrats can make a legislative day last for multiple calendar days" -- but at that point words become meaningless. The rule that limits Senators to two speeches per day was clearly adopted with the understanding that a day is a day. Changing the plain meaning of rules' words and claiming you didn't change the rules is disingenuous.
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Who are you and what do you think you're doing?
Rather that messing with the filibuster, they could come up with some legislation that actually makes things better overall and then they would get their 60 votes, and maybe even more.
But, it's more important to score points and differentiate team blue from team red.
And the Republicans will do the same thing next time they are in this same sort of situation.
These people get off on attention, like a spoiled child.
Except Reason won't be providing them ways to do it. They do that for Dems.
It’s not going to happen. Manchin and Sinema won’t support anything that effectively ends the filibuster. They know if they do, the GOP will nuke it next year, and they will each get slaughtered at the ballot box. The “voting rights” legislation is also likely unconstitutional, and would be help up in court well past November. They also know if they ram it through via procedural tricks, they can kiss their SCOTUS nominee goodbye. The Turtle still wields enormous power and will bring the senate to a standstill.
"They know if they do, the GOP will nuke it next year,"
Nonsense. There's no use in nuking the filibuster next year, because any bill that needs the filibuster nuked to pass Congress will fall to a veto. And if they nuke it next year, they have to face the outside chance of the Democrats keeping the White house in 2024, and retaking the Senate.
They won't nuke it until 2025 at the earliest.
Moreover, McConnell LIKES the filibuster. He was using it during the first two years of the Trump administration to keep conservative bills out of the House from being put to a vote in the Senate.
Remember, a lot of the Republican Senators are RINOs, and if forced to vote on such bills, would expose themselves as such by voting against them. Leading to their being primaried. McConnell was blocking votes on Republican legislation to protect them from that.
I do see the Republicans nuking the filibuster in 2025 IF the Republicans take the 'trifecta', AND McConnell is gone.
Stop voting for democrats
Including those posing as Republicans...