Brickbat: Liar, Liar

The Virginia Beach, Virginia, police department used forged DNA reports linking people to crimes to get them to confess or to cooperate with investigators, according to a state investigation. In at least one case, a forged report from the Virginia Department of Forensic Science was introduced in court as evidence. The police department said it stopped using forged DNA reports last year, but it said the practice was legal.

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[Fist of Etiquette]

Thank God no cog in the criminal justice system would ever find himself in danger of being charged with perjury, and that they get to declare for themselves what is legal and not legal.

[Adans smith]

Never, ever, talk to cops. They lie for a living.

[Sometimes a Great Notion]

1 Word Exception to the Rule: "Lawyer".

[Rob Misek]

Criminalize all lying, and improve news articles.

[SQRLSY One]

Criminalize all lying? Like Holocaust denial, for example?

[Kevin Smith]

How do you distinguish the liars from the idiots?

[SQRLSY One]

Sometimes, telling the two apart is totally unnecessary... As is the case with Rob Misek, who easily combines both!

[Gozer the Gozarian]

Drool.

[Longtobefree]

(D) / (R) ?

Which leaves the question which is which?

[Rob Misek]

Soundly refuting a lie is not lying.

I demonstrated that you’re a holocaust denier. Don’t worry, truth will never be refuted.

[kcuch]

The Lie is a useful and necessary tool needed to maintain a polite society. It can be misused. History is the improvement to the news article's first draft.

I promise that I value your responses to the above.

[Rob Misek]

A lie is coercion. It misrepresents the authority of truth to compel rational people to irrationally make decisions in the liars interests instead of there own.

Truth in communication is the foundation of civilization.

Lying is not polite. If it was, being polite would be immoral. Lying may cowardly temporarily avoid conflict, and is useful even necessary in in self defence, like killing somebody is. Murder is criminalized for good reason.

[IceTrey]

A lie is only immoral if it's fraud i.e. lying for monetary profit.

[Rob Misek]

What makes you believe that to be true?

Money is only transferable work: Do you want to change your claim to “any work that benefits the liar”?

Isn’t it immoral to lie to someone to cause their death with no other benefit to the liar than shits and giggles?

[kcuch]

I lied about valuing your opinion

[Rob Misek]

Because you’re a bigot.

[MatthewSlyfield]

Criminalizing something takes action by politician. Do you really expect politicians to criminalize themselves?

[Rob Misek]

Absolutely not. Yet if you can see past your own selfish interests to choose right over wrong, anyone can.

[Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland]

If reason is pissed off at this why haven't they said a word about kamala nigger cunt Harris falsifying DNA evidence to keep a guy on death row?

[Will Nonya]

Lying during an interrogation may be legal but not ethical. Submitting falsified evidence however is not legal and while I know they likely didn't I'd hope whomever did it was strung up my their tender bits.

[JoeJoetheIdiotCircusBoy]

This. Police can legally say anything they want during interrogations to get a "confession." This is why you don't talk to police...for any reason...unless you have a lawyer present.

[Utkonos]

These cops have their own DNA Code: The rules—legal and ethical—which apply to us mere mortals DNA (Do Not Apply) to them.

[John F. Carr]

There was a story going around, which I want to be true, of police putting a collander on a man's head and telling him it was a lie detector.

[Utkonos]

That strains credulity

[m4019597]

Brunvand retells the story here.

https://www.deseret.com/platform/amp/1990/9/21/18882403/lie-detector-legend-flunks-the-truth-test

[TangoDelta]

Justice Breyer agrees. No issue with falsifying DNA evidence. It's the deterrent to general crime that convictions provide that counts, not justice.

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