Court Bars Health Care Workers from Switching Jobs
A Wisconsin judge treats health care workers like serfs, legally tied to the workplace they'd like to leave.

UPDATE: The order that was the subject of this story was rescinded by Judge Mark McGinnis in a hearing today after this story was filed. The original story follows:
Ascension, a health care company with locations in Wisconsin, recently hired seven workers specializing in interventional radiology and cardiovascular work. All of them used to work for the competing health care provider ThedaCare, and they represent a majority of the latter's formerly 11-member team.
Now ThedaCare is using the courts to stop the former employees from taking their chosen new jobs. Last week Outagamie County Circuit Court Judge Mark McGinnis insanely agreed to legally prevent these workers from starting their new jobs. None of these Americans were barred contractually from leaving the old job at will or from taking a new one.
The court's temporary restraining order stated that Ascension must "Make available to ThedaCare one invasive radiology technician and one registered nurse of the individuals resigning their employment with ThedaCare to join Ascension, with their support to include on-call responsibilities or…Cease the hiring of the individuals referenced until ThedaCare has hired adequate staff to replace the departing IRC team members."
The resource the judge insists that Ascension must "make available" is a group of human beings who did not choose to be made available to ThedaCare. ThedaCare has no argument based on contract or non-compete clauses for its brazen demand; it is merely declaring that its former employees' choice to go will harm it and, it insists, harm public health in the area. A further hearing on the matter is happening today.
Not that it should matter, but Ascension did no active poaching of the employees; one freely applied, preferred the offer, and word spread among the others. It's a choice they should of course be free to make.
ThedaCare insists that since it is the only Level II trauma and comprehensive stroke care operation in its area (stretching from Green Bay and Milwaukee), the loss of its ability to have 24/7 staff on call—at least until it is able to find people freely willing to accept its compensation package—could both threaten its accreditation and present health risks to the residents who might need its services.
Lynn Detterman, a senior vice president at ThedaCare, told WBAY that "it just really in the spirit of our community is harmed by this potentially so we just want to work collectively to ensure that does not happen"—by preventing American citizens from taking another job they prefer more.
In a statement provided to the Appleton, Wisconsin, Post-Crescent, Ascension wrote that "Workforce shortages are one of the many stresses healthcare systems have faced during this pandemic….Contrary to the allegations in the ThedaCare lawsuit, Ascension Wisconsin did not initiate the recruitment of the ThedaCare employees. Rather, the employees applied for open job postings….It is Ascension Wisconsin's understanding that ThedaCare had an opportunity but declined to make competitive counter offers to retain its former employees."
Indeed, one of the health care workers being unjustly treated as a serf, Timothy Breister, told Judge McGinnis that when he heard of a colleague getting an offer from Ascension better "not just in pay but also a better work/life balance," he also applied; when he asked ThedaCare for a counter-offer, he was told that "the long term expense to ThedaCare was not worth the short term cost."
This is, alas, the sort of thing that treating health care as a matter of public policy rather than free markets can lead to. Judge McGinnis' order offered no legal reasoning or precedent for his outrageous act. It is hard to imagine that one could be offered that meets constitutional muster.
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Drama much? It's just a little star on your lapel.
after all this shit over the last few years, I’m hoping people are ready to take a serious look at getting rid of the democrats.
"...so we just want to work collectively"
Tells you everything you need to know about this story.
Indeed.
Tough shit ThedaCare....the employees gave you weeks to match the offers they received. Y'all blew it. The manager who said, "the long term expense to ThedaCare was not worth the short term cost." should be tarred and feathered, and never promoted again.
But it is worth it to pay pricey lawyers to go to court over it. Mind. Blown.
The lawyer who filed it is a former federal prosecutor. He's used to filing BS complaints and bluffing his way through. We'll see if he gets more than a weekend's worth of relief in a state court civil case.
Reminds me of some thousand page book that took me a year to read.
But enough about Harry Potter.
Atlas Shrugged you ignorant imbecile.
*whooosh* you imbecilic ignoramus who never insults anybody.
Poor sarc.
He’s probably broke until he gets his welfare check on the first. So I’m guessing he already has a good case of the shakes. He’s going to be very testy until he gets his hand on a couple bottles of Night Train.
"Directive 10-289"
Pretty much my first thought also.
Wasn't the Twentieth Century Mototcar factory in WI?
3 pages a day? Are you a speed reading champion?
Was it a cookbook of sandwiches?
I wouldn't want treatment from any nurse FORCED to work.
If they can force you to get jabbed, they can force you to work. (Or take away your green pass so you can't buy food or leave your house). FJB
I wonder what would stop the employees from quitting their job and just refusing to work. I certainly would rather take a few days unpaid then be forced to work at a place that I just resigned from. Also are there any 13A implications?
I would call in sick every day.
I have to agree. I don't see any other way to interpret this except as a violation of the 13th amendment, except perhaps as a bill of attainder.
The workers aren't ordered by the court to work at the old place. On the other hand, if the new place is ordered to "make available" an employee, then presumably they can't just let the employee refuse, so then the employee would be out of both jobs.
Court orders are not a bill of attainder; by definition those are from the legislative branch. It would be ridiculous to say that courts cannot issue orders regarding specific people.
Bullshit they weren't being ordered to work at the old place as if it owned them. The new job was required to make them available to their former employer by name, well the list of names that quit.
I’d show up and shit on the bosses desk.
Sounds like an argument collectivist jeff would make. They theoretically harmed others so it is a violation of the NAP. The exact same argument jeff uses for vaccines and masks even if you aren't sick.
"Judge McGinnis' order offered no legal reasoning or precedent for his outrageous act."
It's called a bribe, I mean campaign contribution. Same thing Pfizer has done with congress for the last 18 months.
That’s rad!
So rad my hair's falling out!
Strange because their services have received glowing reviews.
Nuclear weapons for urban renewal! Instantly, easily blowing away those unsightly old houses and unkempt yards is a BLAST!!!
Bonus side effects: Afterwards, NO street lights are needed! Everything GLOWS radiantly! NO combs or toothbrushes needed, either, after your hair and teeth fall out in the fall-out-shelter; FAR OUT!!!
I knew that this "public health" bullshit argument was going to spread. I'm sure we haven't seen the last of that.
Fuck Mark McGinnis. Hopefully he is sent to the big house for his crimes (fat chance I know).
Subcontract them back to ThedaCare at triple normal rates. They're "made available" and you've fulfilled the tyrannical court order. Oh yeah, offer the workers who go back $1000 for every person they can convince to leave ThedaCare.
Beautiful.
That's my thoughts.
About five minutes ago (literally), the judge changed his mind. It seems he financial ties.....
"he has financial ties..."
Got a link?
"After Monday’s testimony, Judge McGinnis said ThedaCare did not meet all four of the required prongs to keep the temporary injunction in place.
“Could or should ThedaCare and Ascension get together and work in this transition period? I was hoping so over the weekend and I will continue to hope so. But I’m not able to craft any type of injunction that would require or limit Ascension without, I think, creating more issues or more friction, or taking away the ability that they have to provide healthcare services,” the judge said.
The decision means the seven medical workers can start work immediately at Ascension.
The lawsuit itself continues."
https://fox11online.com/news/local/thedacare-vs-ascension-returns-to-court-after-temporary-restraining-order-granted
He didn’t change his mind. He imposed a temporary restraining order, and it was implemented. All he did was not extend it. He apparently still thinks it was OK to grant.
His only concern it seems, per his statement is that the injunction might be "...creating more issues or more friction, or taking away the ability that they have to provide healthcare services".
Nothing in there about human autonomy or rights or freedom.
As for legal precedent, he may be using Kelo v. New London and just substituting "community health outcomes" for "substantial community economic benefit".
Anyway, who would want to work for a company with this logo:
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/15/12/52/151252deee0374f43451243f4ce41518.jpg
It's for the common good and general welfare of The Collective, don't you know?
"Got a link?"
My wife was following it on Reddit, so, no links. Sorry.
Are they going to send the Sheriff's dept after them? I'd tell ThedaCare to pound sand.
Fuck this judge. He should be thrown off the bench. Physically.
So much for the right-to-work laws passed when Walker was WI Governor.
This was inevitable given the push for state controlled health care.
I think the walk back is largely due to the obvious and naked arrogation of power.
They will find other ways to make it not seem so obviously what it is.
Anyone thinking of a career in health care beware.
"ThedaCare insists that since it is the only Level II trauma and comprehensive stroke care operation in its area (stretching from Green Bay and Milwaukee)"
Why? Was this a consequence of a CoN regime?
Not that it should matter, but Ascension did no active poaching of the employees; one freely applied, preferred the offer, and word spread among the others. It's a choice they should of course be free to make.
Fuck Joe Biden and fuck (especially public sector) Unions.
This has nothing to do with Biden or unions.
You are correct, but fuck 'em both just on principle.
Turns out a group of people can simply find better working conditions and just leave, who knew?
I just assumed the whole electing a leadership group, paying the leadership group to recruit new members, willing or not, collecting dues from those members, bribing, lobbying and swaying government officials to the detriment of the public and in favor of their own special interests, negotiating against the workers they were supposed to represent but won't because they don't pay dues, bankrupting states and companies for pensions, distorting markets for higher wages for sub-par workmanship, backing state licensing and qualification schemes, etc. etc., etc. was just how people found better working jobs.
Exactly.
Is there really ever a bad time to share a joyful Fuck Joe Biden?
Wisconsin health care workers will be allowed to start new jobs at Ascension after judge dismisses temporary restraining order
Outagamie County Circuit Court Judge Mark McGinnis ruled that ThedaCare's arguments were not enough to uphold the injunction.
McGinnis said he signed the initial restraining order Friday because of the gravity of the situation that ThedaCare laid out in their complaint. Wisconsin statute says the court should give "substantial weight" to any adverse impact on public safety when deciding what to require in the order.
wausaudailyherald
If the judge was indeed concerned about "any adverse impact on public safety when deciding what to require in the order", maybe he should have issued an order to the agency that could name Ascension's facility a "Level II trauma and comprehensive stroke care operation", with daily fines, of course. Because public safety.
I mean, people will DIE!
https://reason.com/podcast/2017/06/28/remy-people-will-die/
One of the truisms of life is people will die. We are mortal creatures, no one gets out of life alive. The hope is always to not die prematurely, and even that we are not very good at. A pandemic will kill people by definition. You can't stop that. What we need to stop is arrogant scientist like Fauci and his ilk from experimenting with virus to make them more deadly.
Reality check:
Every federal Attorney General at DOJ has been involved in “Employment Tampering” for at least the past 20 years. Starting since at least John Ashcroft, apparently abusing the federal “Material Witness Statute”.
The federal government chooses which jobs we are allowed to work in and punish freedom of choice of citizens never charged with any crime or wrongdoing. Federal judges know about it, including the U.S. Supreme. Ours. The ACLU knows about it also but America’s post-9/11 Stasi has effectively blocked them. Congress and state legislatures has granted state-operated “Fusion Centers” near total exemption from Freedom of Information Act requests - even for regular information. I call it the “Shanghai Program” where the government Shanghais it’s own citizens.
Look, someone has to work in the fields growing the food. It's a matter of public health. I nominate law professors for the job. They are so good at shoveling crap!
They are so good at shoveling crap!
As someone who's stood knee-deep in shit with a shovel, we don't want 'em.
Remember, Mitt Romney's going to put you back in chains. Or was that Trump?
If health care is a human right, then skilled health care providers have an obligation to give it to whoever wants it. This is the logical result of the Left's view.
Unless of course you're one of the filthy unvaccinated, then 'human' rights don't apply to you.
All health care workers should be Federal employees.