Coronavirus

New California Data Reinforce the Evidence That Omicron Is Less Virulent Than Delta

Omicron patients were much less likely to have severe symptoms.

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A new study of COVID-19 patients in California reinforces the evidence that the omicron variant, while highly contagious, is much less likely to cause serious symptoms than prior iterations of the coronavirus. Compared to people infected by the delta variant, the researchers found, people infected with omicron were half as likely to be hospitalized, one-quarter as likely to require intensive care, and less than one-tenth as likely to die. When omicron patients were admitted to a hospital, their average stay was 70 percent shorter.

Berkeley epidemiologist Joseph Lewnard and his collaborators examined the records of nearly 70,000 Kaiser Permanente patients in Southern California who tested positive for COVID-19 from November 30 to January 1. During that period, omicron accounted for three-quarters of COVID-19 cases. While 11 of the delta patients received mechanical ventilation, none of the omicron patients did; just one omicron patient died, compared to 14 deaths in the delta group. "During a period with mixed Delta and Omicron variant circulation," Lewnard and his co-authors report, "SARS-CoV-2 infections with presumed Omicron variant infection were associated with substantially reduced risk of severe clinical endpoints and shorter durations of hospital stay."

Recent COVID-19 trends in the United States and other countries show that cases are exploding. But deaths have risen much less dramatically, making the current surge far less lethal than last winter's. According to the New York Times COVID-19 database, the seven-day average of newly identified cases has more than sextupled in the last month, while the seven-day average of daily deaths has risen by 34 percent.

One possible explanation for that contrast is increased resistance to COVID-19 as a result of vaccination and prior infection. But because the California study compares delta and omicron outcomes in the same place during the same period, its results suggest that omicron is inherently less dangerous than delta to any given patient, possibly because it is less apt to infect the lungs.

Even among unvaccinated patients, those infected by omicron were 60 percent less likely than those infected by delta to be hospitalized with symptoms. The reduced risk from omicron also held up across age groups, and it was apparent regardless of whether patients had comorbidities or had previously been infected by COVID-19.

Lewnard et al. note that the "consistency of the association of Omicron variant infection with reduced risk of hospitalization across age and comorbidity categories, and regardless of prior immunity from vaccination or SARS-CoV-2 infection, during the same month and in the same population, argues against host or behavioral factors as causes of the observed disease attenuation with the Omicron variant." They add that "the finding of a reduction in severity of Omicron in patients with known prior infection is compelling evidence of an intrinsically less severe infection, rather than only different (more immune) persons becoming infected with the Omicron variant."

Previous research also has found that omicron infection is associated with a reduced risk of severe symptoms. Between October 1 and December 6, according to a South African study, COVID-19 patients infected by omicron were 80 percent less likely to be hospitalized than patients infected by other variants. A Scottish study that looked at patients who tested positive for the coronavirus from November 1 to December 19 found that "Omicron is associated with a two-thirds reduction in the risk of COVID-19 hospitalisation when compared to Delta."

According to an English study of people tested from December 1 through December 14, omicron patients were 41 percent less likely than delta patients to stay in the hospital overnight. A Canadian study of cases identified between November 22 and December 25 found that omicron patients were 65 percent less likely to be hospitalized than delta patients.

"These findings collectively suggest that differences in viral factors between the Omicron and the Delta variants, such as differences in viral tropism or virulence factors, might be driving the observed relative reductions in disease severity," Lewnard et al. write. "Recent ex vivo studies demonstrate higher replication of the Omicron variant in the human upper respiratory tract as compared to the small airways of the lung, consistent with animal experiments suggesting that disease from infection with the Omicron variant might be confined to the large airway."

Like other studies, Lewnard et al. say, "our findings suggest vaccine protection against infection with the Omicron variant may be lower than protection against infection with the Delta variant." But also consistent with other data, this study indicates that vaccination provides strong protection against severe disease caused by either variant.

Among cases identified in outpatient settings, for example, delta patients who had received three vaccine doses were 85 percent less likely to be hospitalized with symptoms than unvaccinated delta patients; the risk reduction for omicron patients was 62 percent. The authors say "evidence for a reduction in severe outcomes among vaccinated cases with both Delta and Omicron variant infections in our study…suggests substantial public health benefits from continued COVID-19 vaccination."

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  1. Well, I'll be damned; it's a flu virus, just like every other flu virus ever.
    Whodathunkit?

    1. You mean it finally mutated to be like a normal flu virus.

      What kind of jackass thinks a million or so deaths in the US is no big deal?

      1. So youre saying the Spanish flu wasn't a flu virus?

        1. Nobody expects the Spanish influenza!

          1. I always expect it. Why I carry my Spanish flu vaccination rock. So far it has 100% efficacy.

        2. Well, a coronavirus isn't a flu virus, so technically correct. I agree that it's largely a silly distinction since they are all "ILI".

            1. Flu is a corona.

              The flu virii ( there isnt just one, contrary to your false overgeneralization) is diff from C19 mostly in internal structure.

              Thats science, not your political Talking point thats been floated last week to distance the flu as a non cause to further C19 hysteria

      2. What kind of jackass thinks all of the government overreach could've prevented one of these deaths?

        1. They never thought government could save anyone,
          they just love fucking people over.

        2. Government overreach certainly killed a few.

        3. The same jackass that believes the death count for the Rona' is an accurate statistic and don't look over there at the many other causes of death seemingly eradicated while we were counting all those Corona Virus deaths.

        4. people that want govt over reach. Those making billions of dollars at it.

          Was it Modernas stock that went up 10x?

          And obviously da Gummits " paying for it"

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      4. The kinds that support abortion?

      5. Who said it's no big deal? Who said the flu is no big deal?

        It sucks that people died. A lot were going to die anyway, but not all. I don't like that. But that doesn't mean I should support any policy that purports to address the problem. Government solutions to problems like that tend not to work and tend to cause other problems. Covid policies have backed up my assumptions on those points quite nicely. I'd say it's the most extreme example of government failing to be effective and at the same time causing huge "unintended" harm of my lifetime anyway,

      6. My daddy always used to say things like that when we would take long showers together when I was a tween.

        1. Sounds like a hair raising sniffing experience.

      7. With or of?

      8. How many of the 800,000+ deaths will turn out to actually be COVID deaths once CDC distinguishes between ‘dying of’ and ‘dying with’ COVID. in Italy, they had to revise their numbers down 97% when they did it. If that holds for us, that 800,000 becomes 24,000 over two years. Sounds a lot like flu, doesn’t it?

      9. More like 50,000 if you go with died OF and died WITH.

      10. What kind of jackass thinks a million or so deaths in the US is no big deal?

        what percentage of that number would not have died within a period of twele months anyway...?

        something was going to kill the vast majority of them; they were elderly and sick, multitudes of them in facilitated care...for your hysterical remark to make sense, perfectly healthy people between 5 and 50 years of age, while walking down the street, became infected by some unmasked maniac passing by them, and two weeks later they were dead, solely from the effects of respiratory virus...

    2. I think you mean a cold virus.

  2. Public health authorities do not care.

    They only want to inhibit normal life. To them, working-class Americans an d middle-class Americans live too well.

  3. So of all the predictions of our health authorities, all but one has fallen by the wayside. The Vaccines didn't protect us from getting sick. They did not stop the spread. It wasn't "Two shots to end COVID". In the end, the Vaccine proved an effective mechanism for protecting oneself from ending up in the hospital (or worse) for COVID.

    I think it is awesome that the Vaccine is effective at protecting individuals from getting seriously ill. But I wish the scolds who repeated every statement of the health officials without question for months- insisting that if we would just vaccinate the disease would be gone- would actually take a few moments of contrition and really reflect on their sanctimony. They spent months needlessly harassing anyone who objected to vaccination. They carried water for the officials who instituted vaccine mandates and vaccine passports. And not even the most draconian of rules in places like New York worked.

    From Israel, to New York, to my own county where the vaccination rate is north of 90%- vaccination did not end this pandemic, and people trying to create the moral urgency for folks to stick needles in their arms on their behalf should remember that not only were they wrong on the MORAL OBLIGATIONS, but they were wrong on the FACTS as well.

    This is not to say that people who over-hyped the safety risks of the vaccine should be happy. Indeed, the biggest tragedy of this entire ordeal is that by trying to socialize this policy with broad-brushed strokes of moral obligation, we created exactly the environment where nobody could trust any of the scientific fact being presented to them.

    1. I think it is awesome that the Vaccine is effective at protecting individuals from getting seriously ill. But I wish the scolds who repeated every statement of the health officials without question for months- insisting that if we would just vaccinate the disease would be gone- would actually take a few moments of contrition and really reflect on their sanctimony. They spent months needlessly harassing anyone who objected to vaccination. They carried water for the officials who instituted vaccine mandates and vaccine passports. And not even the most draconian of rules in places like New York worked.

      Here's your major error. You'll never get that apology because as each claim has been solidly debunked, the followup position of the now-debunked constituency is to say "we never said that/we never claimed that".

      When written or video evidence is presented of them saying or claiming exactly [that], then the next rejoinder is to claim some sort of multi-dimensional contextual reasoning for the statement they say they never uttered being uttered.

      It's an unwinnable game.

      1. While I do see that sort of gaslighting a lot -- like how D were all antivax before the election but jumped in line to get it first because trump supporters were too dumb to take it so they had to set an example -- in this case they aren't even there yet. Those religiously holding on to their masking and mandates are still preaching that you need a vaccine to protect others.

        A year ago with Alpha the vaccine was wildly effective. Delta was way more contagious and different enough that that calculus changed. The vaccine was now to protect yourself. But the rhetoric didn't change. Omicron evades prior immunity (all immunity) for infection. It's somewhere between chickenpox and measels in infectivity, which is pretty incredible. Prior infection and vaccination is a great way to keep you out of the hospital, but not going to stop the spread.

        The rhetoric is still where it was this time last year. They aren't even gaslighting yet. They're just pulling a catholic church and having a shitfit that Copernicus said the earth wasn't the center of the universe.

      2. We have always been at war with Eastasia.

    2. Even the postulate that the vaccine had a significant effect on hospitalizations or death is questionable.

      Hospitalizations of the population are now nearly matching vaccination rates.

      The ones most susceptible to covid died off in the first wave or two, death rates always were assumed to drop. Thats why cdc admitted 75% had 4 or more comorbidities. That population shrank.

      1. Yeah I believe the Dashboard maybe Diane shared from King county is now showing it getting closer to a 50-50 split in both deaths and hospitalizations

        1. You need to be careful with interpreting this data. If a population is 80% (or more) vaccinated, then you should expect to see an 80% (or more) vaccinated population in the hospital, not a 50-50 split.

          I think it is pretty conclusive that this vaccine protects you to some extent from the virus. Of course, I think that the VAST, VAST number of people in this country under the age of 55 were at very little risk from the virus in the first place.

          Again, the biggest shame about the sanctimony and politicizing of this issue is that solutions had to be one size fits all, rather than nuanced to fit an individual's needs. Whether you are pro-vax or anti-vax we should all resist the urge to follow that mob mentality. There are people who absolutely ought to get the vaccine for their own benefit, and a lot of people who probably don't need it. The worst thing is to try and create a one size fits all socialized solution to this.

          1. Except it is matching the vaccination population. An article posted the other day about Canada had the percentages off by just a few percent.

            1. Got a link? Seriously, the only articles I have seen are from Ontario where the data has all been population adjusted. That was the article Bailey posted the other day.

              I would be unsurprised to find that when everything is adjusted for- again, the vaccine gives benefits. But, as I noted in that Bailey article, wearing a helmet might reduce your risk of dying from falling apples, but that is a pretty small risk to begin with. The vast majority of people under the age of 50 have so little risk from this virus that you are cutting in half (or more) an already tiny risk.

              1. Of course he doesn't. He's a 50 center and one of his beats is anti-vax FUD.

                During the Delta surge good local data, recent so not uncluding OG covid, was published ever week here. Infections were 3x for unvaccinated, hospitalizations varied but anywhere from 4x to 40x on any given week, same with deaths, and they were that wild because so few vaccinated were in the hospital that the number single digit so even one or two change was big.

                That's infection/hopsitalization/death rates compared to population, not relative to each other.

                In short, there was some mild reduction in infection, measureable reduction in hospitalization, and significant reduction in death rates. If you meter out by age, it's more dramatic, because a great percentage of the vaccinated who were at greatest risk of hospitalization were significantly older with lots of comorbidities so at risk no matter what you do. I posted an excellent analysis of this and he called me a name that would make my mother blush.

                The 50 centers will jut say "I don't believe you" and either go after some sort of emotional plea to make people afraid, intentionally misinterpret the data, or just start some irrelevant nonsense about the definition of vaccine or call people stupid for availing themselves. Which is one big reason you know they're trolls, no normal, rational human gives that much of a shit about whether or not someone else gets a shot.

                Their job is to muddy the waters. Make it look like someone who is anti-mandate, for whatever reason, looks like they are anti-vaccine, and they want ant-vaxxers to be seen as whackadoodle as flat earthers.

                1. During delta... oh so youre a fucking idiot who thinks shit stopped after your preferred statistic was reported on CNN.

                  When under a third of the population was vaccinated.

                2. You truly do come off as a 5p center though lol. Stay in California.

                3. Make it look like someone who is anti-mandate, for whatever reason, looks like they are anti-vaccine, and they want ant-vaxxers to be seen as whackadoodle as flat earthers.

                  Not to nitpick, but according to Merriam Webster, if you're anti mandate, you're an anti-vaxxer. Welcome to the big bucket of deplorables.

              2. Eating links. But here is from Britain.

                https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/half-of-covid-hospital-cases-fully-vaccinated-zcppw7jrp

                Canada numbers buried from new articles about half of covid hospitalizations being incidental which makes the numbers even harder to parse for correlation of due to.

              3. Texas.

                https://yournews.com/2022/01/03/2275753/half-of-omicron-cases-in-houston-hospital-system-among-vaccinated/

                So the shift is pretty subtle. Maybe one standard deviation in a population comparison.

                But again dealing with shitty metrics who doesn't account for with vs due to om hospitalizations.

    3. "In the end, the Vaccine proved an effective mechanism for protecting oneself from ending up in the hospital (or worse) for COVID."

      Maybe.
      If we're to trust and rely upon reporting of who counts as vaxxed vs unvaxxed.
      I'm not convinced the vaccine has provided any significant difference in outcomes for individuals vs what would have happened without the vaccine.

      1. It seems that all the reports of efficacy are short-term, like all the "studies" of mask effectiveness that only covered a couple weeks during the peak infection time vs non-peak elsewhere. 80% of the 50+ population is "fully vaccinated". Almost all numbers we have received throughout this are between cloudy and shit, but the vaccination rates should be pretty accurate. 2000+ died of covid yesterday, despite 80+% of the most at-risk population being vaccinated.

        1. According to the CDC, almost 90% of the deaths have occurred in those age brackets, but 80% vaccination hasn't cut the death toll to anywhere near that degree.

    4. "I think it is awesome that the Vaccine is effective at protecting individuals from getting seriously ill."

      Prevents one, causes a half dozen other issues. Kinda like allergy medicine that may cause suicidal thoughts or narcolepsy.

      https://www.canadiancovidcarealliance.org/media-resources/the-pfizer-inoculations-for-covid-19-more-harm-than-good-2/

    5. Come on u moron. PROVE that these mRNA shots make this phony ass virus "less obtrusive"? R u really this much of a simpleton? U r literally the pawn of pawns. A fool who is involved in the religious community of "Science-tism". U be just another hater of humans..., and self. How is it possible for ANYONE not to understand WHAT a mRNA shot IS? My GOD dude... U r but an embarrassment to all mankind.
      The Phucko Knows

    6. theyre desperate now to blame the Un' bc if not, it proves their vaxxes FAILED.

      Their Magic Vax has had THREE calendar years. Failure.

      That means the BILLIONS of dollars, and other currency- units used to pay were wasted.

      And were stuck with the Bill.

      And the Politicians that handed them the money are in line for Yuge kickbacks.

      Watch 2022...how the Dems will be awash with money!

  4. Great dissertation on the erosion of trust in scientific institutions, and comments from the head of vaccines at a Children's Hospital advising young, healthy males to NOT get boosted, etc.

    This is a really good science-based channel that I recommend people start watching.

    I think I have decided I will not be getting a covid booster.

    Probably ever.

    1. This is a really good science-based channel that I recommend people start watching.

      If not for the content, then at least to hear a few minutes of the guy's voice at 2X playback.

      1. I got the natural booster. Was not going to get the booster.

  5. Remember kids, voter ID is racist.

    "Remember before you head out you need three things:"

    a mask
    proof of vaccination
    your ID (which black people can't get due to systemic racism-- lucky for the mayor of DC, there aren't that many black folks in DC)

  6. Because it bears repeating:

    "The covid-19 pandemic has taught me one thing, it's who would have hidden Anne Frank and who would have turned her in"

    1. What a stupid fucking thing to say. Yes let's compare the holocaust to people not wanting others to spread a virulent deadly disease.

      JFC you people are insane.

      1. The nazis used disease as one of the arguments for camps. Sorry youre ignorant.

        1. The rise of the "If Hitler hadn't killed all those Jews, he would've been an OK guy." mentality is (not) surprising.

          1. Even sarcasmic uses that justification. Ask him about Australia.

      2. Gee, I wonder why shitluches is so triggered by this comment.

      3. So, we'll put you down for reporting Anne Frank to the proper authorities.

      4. The TDS in this one. just breath, watch some CNN, or whatever calms your flare ups!

      5. Deadly to who? Those who already have a foot dangling over thier soon to come graves? U r totally incapable of thinking for yourself. Institutionalized fear can destroy a humans abilities to think for themselves. A reality that has u as the poster child of wanted stupidity.
        The Phucko Knows

    2. I can play that game too:

      "The covid-19 pandemic has taught me one thing, it's who would have hidden Jeffrey Dahmer and who would have turned him in"

      1. Did people hide jeffery dahmer?

        1. Whomever did was surely vaccinated for something.

        2. Weird that his mind jumped straight to the child-molesting serial killer who ate his victims, and shares zero commonalities with Anne Frank or the situation she was in.

        3. I guess in Chemjeff's analogy, most of America was on board with what Jeffrey Dahmer was doing and a small minority wanted to stop him. I think that's where he's going with this.

      2. Trick question. He's your dad!

      3. That was pretty stupid Jeff.

        1. Jeff is pretty stupid, but it's kinda amusing to watch him flail in metaphor.

  7. Good news save for how transmissable it is and the hospitals being overloaded again.

    If a hospital is 70% full we should just turn away the unvaxxed. Fuck off with your freedumb. If you choose to not listen to medical advice telling you to get vaxxed then you shouldn't be able to take a bed from someone who cared enough to listen and protect themselves and others.

    1. Now do smokers, fat people, boozers, druggies, type-2 diabetics, skateboarders, bikers, boxers, stunt doubles, sky divers, race car drivers, rodeo clowns, and stressed out Wall Street executives.

      Anybody that does anything unhealthy or dangerous ever again must be denied medical care otherwise their careless ass is really just taking "a bed from someone who cared enough to listen" to the infallible experts.

      People like you -- well, you deserve everything you are going to get. And you are going to get it hard, and soon.

      1. And many of those things (particularly the physical activities) increase a healthy person's risk of bein hospitalized more than not being vaccinated for covid does.

      1. I guess that makes people who question the vaccine sub-hooman.

    2. And hear you are making Nazi statements. DPR wasn't so fucking stupid after all. And it only took you 1 minute after your comment.

      1. it only took you 1 minute after your comment.

        This is a consistent pattern among the shitposters.

        White Mike and Joe Friday call for civility in one thread and then moments later are mocking people or calling them 'fucking traitors'. Sarcasmic spins up offhand comments into death threats. Jeffy clings to thoroughly rebutted arguments. ​SPB, Tony and SQLFKR start at 100% nutjob and just continue throughout a thread.

        I have seen them use the most horrible racist and malicious language and then claim it was 'just sarcasm' despite the people they are arguing with having never used such language. The hate is always there inside them and they just can't keep it suppressed all the time.

    3. The hospitals are not "overloaded", but please continue bleating

      1. But the hospitals could be overloaded at any moment despite having had weeks to prepare.

        1. Well, when you fire staff for not doing exactly what you want, getting overloaded is easier.

    4. The primary reason for stress on hospitals is declines in staff owing to exposure/isolation requirements, not the rise in patients. That's the real madness here.

      1. Fun fact: In CA, you can be treated by an infected but vaccinated nurse, but cannot see an uninfected, unvaccinated nurse.

        1. cocaine= OK

          plastic bag its in= felony

          Thats Californication!

      2. There are less active hospital rooms today than the start of the pandemic despite billions being spent because of staffing.

        1. UK and USA have eliminated 50% of their hospital beds over the last 30 years in a greed-driven frenzy. USA has closed most local community and rural hospitals.

          Poland now has three times the hospital beds per capita of California. Hey, give props to the Chinese - at least they started building hospital beds like crazy last year. Not in the West! Oligarchy are just too damn greedy. They love to operate on you and kick you out the door the same day to maximize profit.

          1. they try to pass that off as HIPPA Compliance...somehow. ( one bed per room)

            My guess is more " MERS"

      3. and decades of steadily eliminating hospital beds to increase profit margin for the hospital industry....these folks are so wonderful Congress just had to ban them from doing "surprise billing" otherwise known as fraud in non-health care industry

        1. decades of steadily eliminating hospital beds to increase profit margin for the hospital industry

          The opposite motivation is behind that change. Payers (and honestly, patients themselves) hate it when you end up as an inpatient, so all the effort is spent around keeping that from happening while reclassifying any possible service so it can be done in an outpatient setting, preferably off-campus.

          Hospitals make far, far better margins off inpatient services, but they can't fill the beds without payers having a conniption. So, the beds go away.

          1. Hospitals make far, far better margins off inpatient services, but they can't fill the beds without payers having a conniption. So, the beds go away.

            one of the more spot on comments I've seen on this website...

    5. Fine. And if you and your comrades end up in dire economic straits because you ignored advice about education, career, family, etc., we will turn you away--OK?

      Fuck YOUR freedumb.

    6. Fuck off with your freedumb.

      Enjoy the train ride to the Yukon. I am sure I will right there next to you, because I will stand up when they come for you, fuckweasel.

    7. "Fuck off with your freedumb"

      People that mock the idea of freedoms only care when theirs are taken away. I hope that doesn't happen to you in the future you are actively supporting.

    8. And yet hospitals are designed to run at 80% capacity in normal times to ensure profit.

      Hmmmmmmm.

      And as ever, now do fatties.

    9. The hospitals are overloaded with vaccine-caused sickness!!!!

      1. Take them out of the Hospitals.

        Prob solved.

        Most of the civid patients need similar treatment and cant infect each other.

    10. Being that 70% isnt even that bad (and quite normal) it seems you just want your political opponents to suffer physical consequences for not falling in line

      Tell me again why your side isnt like the communists and fascists that killed millions upon millions with this sentiment? And why we shouldn't treat you the same way we treated them?

    11. So because your an idiot. Everyone should follow your lead? How about u just keep making stupid decisions for yourself and let the rest of fhe world get on with life. As this whole affair is an IQ test to separate the fools from society. Please explain how a virus with a 99.97% survival rate.., NEEDS a vaccine to begin with? If I sent u to Vegas with those odds..., u'd be looking for the deed to your house. My GOD u have the intellectual depth of a two week old mud puddle. It's embarrassing.
      The Phucko Knows

    12. "If a hospital is 70% full we should just turn away the unvaxxed."

      Remember when the Left claimed health care was a human right?

  8. According to my research, one of the most widely administered drugs in the world is Placebo, and it's astonishingly effective on a wide variety of illnesses and diseases. Have they run any tests to see how effective Placebo might be on the coronavirus?

    1. Didn't we try that with vaccines round one?

      1. that vax could be colored water. who woukd know?

        You might be right...distribute Placebo vax to portions of the population as a control group.

        Or a portion desired by the Reich to eliminate.

  9. Berkeley epidemiologist Joseph Lewnard and his collaborators examined the records of nearly 70,000 Kaiser Permanente patients in Southern California who tested positive for COVID-19 from November 30 to January 1.

    Oh weird. In a state with an ~80% vaccination rate, the IFR for omicron and delta *combined* was 0.002% and not something closer to, say, 20%. Let's see, if I had a virus that was 99.9% non-lethal, alone that would be 700 dead in a caseload of 700K people. If I had a virus that was 100% lethal and a vaccine that was 95% effective, universally applied, it would be 35K dead. If it were 95% effective but only 80% adopted, that would be 42K dead. If it were 99.9% non-lethal, 75% adopted, and 95% effective, that's still 200 dead and if it were 99.9% non-lethal, 100% adopted and 95% effective, that would still be 35 dead.

    So, the question remains how we got to hundreds dead to 15 dead with 75-80% adoption of a 95% effective vaccine?

    I blame man-made global warming.

    1. What about systemic racism?

      1. It is due to science denial.

        1. Due to not being on the metric system.

          1. Trumps fault.

            Somehow.

  10. Compared to people infected by the delta variant, the researchers found, people infected with omicron were half as likely to be hospitalized, one-quarter as likely to require intensive care, and less than one-tenth as likely to die.

    So that means that 50% of the population is going to be in the hospital, 25% in the ICU and 10% is going to be dead. That leaves just 15% of the population alive and unaffected by long covid.

    AND YOU WANT ME TO STOP SCREAMING AT THE TOP OF MY LUNGS AT PEOPLE WEARING FEWER THAN FIVE MASKS???

  11. https://twitter.com/OccupyDemocrats/status/1481078102608564226?t=qzCdTKyfqURfWUut-Mqb1Q&s=19

    BREAKING: Greece announces that it will begin fining the unvaccinated $113 a month, Austria announces that it will begin fining them up to $4,000 a month, and Quebec announces that it may begin slapping them with a “significant” fine. RT IF YOU THINK THAT AMERICA MUST DO IT TOO!

    1. They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? ...Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot?

      Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged!

      ...It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace-- but there is no peace... Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God!

      I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

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        1. comment forum SW fail in general.

          This is the Edsel Commenting platform.

      2. Can I add a litte Jefferson to your Patrick Henry?

        "Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now. Thus in France the emetic was once forbidden as medicine, and the potato as an article of food."

        "Reason and experiment have been indulged, and error has fled before them. It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself. Subject opinion to coercion: whom will you make your inquisitors? Fallible men; men governed by bad passions, by private as well as public reasons. And why subject it to coercion? To produce uniformity..."
        -Thomas Jefferson 1800

  12. Darkhorse Podcast on how to talk to Vaccine Enthusiasts. Great podcast summing up the public messaging and perception of it.

    Heather tells a great anecdote of a very good friend of hers who was 147% on board with the Vaccinenacht and just got boosted. She started suffering from side effects and decided she was "done" with the entire thing, done with the pandemic, done with the "get your vaccine" droning messaging... just done. And now she's losing friends and family members.

    1. But without the booster for the booster, she remains "not fully vaccinated", and depending on the state, cannot do anything other than grocery shop.

      1. ( voiceover) "...and now, C19 booster Patch"

        24/7 boosters.

        Profit is only bad when Rightists make it...

        / sarc

  13. So... Just gonna leave this here for Sullum.

    https://www.thefreedictionary.com/virulent

    It means a disease is highly contagious... Which was emphasised in the first paragraph.

  14. Oh yes, YES Reason.com! Keep vaccinating! The Koch Brothers will be pleased! Maybe y'all can get a raise this year or something?

    Here's the only published study that I've seen in New England, the region where I live. The "Provincetown Outbreak" of summer 2021. The horrible Delta variant raged throughed the state!

    The study shows that, for this population, vaccination made NO difference in the rate of getting infected, or the rate of hospitalization:

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm?s_cid=mm7031e2_w

    1. But thats CDC data. Why are those screaming " the sky is falling acvirding to CDC data" refusing to acknowledge ALL the CDC data like that which proves masks dont work to stop aerosols?

  15. Do Nothing?

    What if we had nothing with the initial virus and just allowed it to run its course? Who among the healthy was getting sick? Who was dying? Old people who were obese and diabetic were at highest risk. Chronically ill people who were immuno-suppressed. Children? No. Adolescents? No. Young adults? No. Middle-aged adults? A few.

    Instead, we forfeited the future of the young to benefit the old. To much of the world, we administered an experimental vaccine the long-term effects of which still are unknown. By keeping those alive who, otherwise, would have died, we provided a huge breeding-ground for the viral mutations that we now are suffering en masse with more likely to come; for example, Deltacron.

    Politicians became our physicians. We blindly plunged into the black void of the unknown in the name of humanitarianism, a term that has become an obscenity as described in the novel, Retribution Fever. We are sacrificing the whole to benefit the few, often the unworthy few.

    Behavior has its consequences. What they will be, no one knows.

    “Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.” -Galatians VI:7

    1. One ideal of Communism is for Administrators to be able to make LAW.

      Thats in play here. Theyre just pretending its through our Govt system.

      It is, just acting as Accounts Receivable...

      Fuck Joe Biden and his Little Dog Fauci

  16. A Nurse called in on Knoxvilke TN 98.7 FM yesterday.

    Almost no C19 patients.

    All cold/ flu.

    Its Ovah except for this last round of fake testing designed to shovel more pallets of cash train car loads of cash into drug and testing company pockets.

  17. From the CDC:

    Mortality in the USA (from the CDC):

    2018: 2,839,205
    2019: 2,854,838
    2020: 3,358,514
    2021: 2,863,066

  18. You stepped in it there...

    Telling Libs theyre mortal...

    Ha!

    Unchanged despite mass vaccination thats killed > 50,000 and caused an economic disaster.

    Thats progress!

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