Americans Fled California, New York, and D.C. During COVID
Financial pressure is the main reason why people say they move, and pandemic-era public policy created a lot more financial pressure in certain places.
During the first full year of the COVID-19 pandemic, Americans fled from states like California and New York to seek refuge in places with lower taxes and fewer public health restrictions.
New data from the Census Bureau show that 18 states (plus Washington, D.C.) lost population between July 2020 and June 2021. But the losses sustained by most states pale in comparison to the mass exodus from New York and California. The two states lost 319,000 and 260,000 residents, respectively, during those 12 months. Illinois, which has been hemorrhaging population for several years, finished third after losing about 113,000.
But when looked at as a percentage of their overall population, no place took as big of a hit as Washington, D.C, which lost more than 3.4 percent of its prepandemic population in just 12 months.
At the other end of the spectrum, Texas gained about 310,000 residents during that same period, while Florida (211,000), Arizona (98,000), and North Carolina (93,000) also saw significant in-migration.
Overall, fewer people have moved during the pandemic than in a typical year. According to a different set of data released by the Census Bureau a few months ago, moves declined to their lowest levels in at least 70 years in the 12 months between April 2020 and March 2021. But that only serves to throw some of the migration figures into starker relief. Despite fewer moves overall, both New York and California saw a significant increase in the number of people leaving during the July 2020 to June 2021 period.
As it did in other ways, the pandemic seems to have exacerbated migration trends that were already underway. California and New York "showed substantially greater losses in 2020-21 than in the prior two years, as was the case for most states that sustained recent population losses," notes William H. Frey, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.
Indeed, New York has been losing population for years, and, after decades of explosive growth, California's population was nearly flat over the past decade. Because the rest of the country grew faster, California will see its congressional delegation shrink for the first time ever.
There are many reasons why someone might choose to move from one place to another, and those decisions probably have more to do with individual factors than with political or economic issues writ large. As such, we should be careful about assigning too much meaning to migration figures. Partisans may want to score points by claiming that Americans are moving from blue to red states, for example. And that might even be true, in broad strokes. But it ignores the more nuanced reality, that people make personal decisions based on lots of reasons, many of which are not political.
States are not monoliths—someone moving to the booming West Texas city of Midland is probably doing so for a different reason than someone moving to also-booming Austin—and a successful state is capable of attracting more than one type of person. Indeed, successful states grow in spite of their national political stereotypes, not because of them.
Despite those important caveats, it's tough to look at the new Census Bureau data without making at least a few generalizations about what made California and New York (and to some extent, D.C.) such remarkable outliers over the past year.
Pandemic policies certainly come to mind. New York didn't lift capacity restrictions on businesses until May of this year, long after similar rules were abolished in most other places. Los Angeles' economic restrictions fell hardest on small businesses, and often made little sense. School closures, where were concentrated in big cities and blue states—places that have, not surprisingly, now seen a corresponding drop in enrollments—made life more difficult for parents and children. "Financial pressure" is the main reason why people say they move, and pandemic-era policies have been ripe for creating new financial headaches for a wide swath of Americans.
But I suspect that what's also showing up in the Census data is something that goes beyond frustration with pandemic rules and school shutdowns. Wendell Cox, an expert in demographics and policy who runs a consulting firm based in St. Louis, notes that D.C.'s loss of about 3.3 percent of its population comes after a period when the district was averaging significant year-over-year population gains for the past decade. Then, he looks at the states gaining population—and not just the biggest ones.
"West Virginia, well within range of a remote worker spending just a few days in the month on-site, saw its net domestic migration total increase to 2,300 from its previous decade average of minus 4,600," Cox writes in New Geography, an urban policy and demographics blog. "Delaware, similarly close to Washington, as well as to Philadelphia, with the nation's sixth-largest downtown, saw its net domestic migration gain rise to 12,000, from its previous decade average of plus 5,000."
West Virginia and Delaware share some other features with the big population-gaining states like Texas, Florida, and Arizona—namely, low taxes and relatively cheap land (with some exceptions, of course).
To the extent that remote work (or part-time remote work) is here to stay, places like West Virginia and Delaware stand to be huge winners in the post-pandemic sorting out along the East Coast, where the geography of having lots of states bunched close together makes for more robust competition. If you only have to go into the office once per week, more people may opt to avoid paying the high cost of living and high taxes that come from living in New York City, Washington, D.C., or their suburbs.
Of course, most people will stay. Even after a year when it lost a stunning percentage of its population, 96 percent of Washingtonians are still Washingtonians. New York City will remain one of the world's biggest economic engines, and California will always have nearly boundless natural resources.
But the number of Americans that moved during the pandemic should send a signal to policy makers about what's happening on the margins. Competition between the states is real, and the eventual end of pandemic restrictions won't automatically halt the trends that COVID has kicked into high gear.
In a world where more workers are empowered to live where they like, some states won't like where workers choose to live.
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Unfortunately, some of those transplants agree with what their former states had done. But they didn’t like the actual outcomes not recognizing the direct relationship. And they will support draconian efforts in their new locations.
Wherever you go, there you are.
Generally true, but have you ever been to, for example, Trona, California.
I mean who hasn’t? 178 is a decent motorcycle road btw.
Oh, yeah. My dad and my brothers-in-law would ride out there. I was too young to join them.
Fontucky, San Murderdino, Stab Diego, Victimville, Lost Angeles,San Franshitsco, Orcland.
I hear they are wonderful places to visit.
This is actually good news for us Koch / Reason libertarians and our quest to transform the US into a single-party Democratic nation.
Of course the primary method we advocate is to simply import reliable Democratic voters from other countries, especially Mexico. But shuffling Democratic voters from state to state works too. California, for instance, can afford to lose thousands of Democrats and still remain deep blue. Imagine if just a small percentage of progressive voters in CA moved to Ohio? And continued voting exactly like they always have? Goodbye swing state, hello solid blue Ohio!
#LibertariansFor50Californias
Did anyone check to make sure the Californians stayed in Georgia for at least 30 days after the Senate runoff?
It just shows how moronic u idiots r. U flee from the shit YOU helped create. Only to cover your new home state with more of your shitty choices. This is the liberal mindset of punching ones self in the face over and over. Then blaming the guy selling boxing gloves for your bloody ass face.
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When the silent generation and baby boomers fled the cities in the wake of the race riots, integration, out of control crime, and busing during the 1960s and 1970s, they wouldn’t have told you it was because they were racists fleeing integration–and they didn’t want their kids going to schools with a lot of black kids. They would have said it was mainly due to financial pressure.
There’s always financial pressure. Financial pressure drives almost everything we do. This is like blaming gravity when a parachute fails. Yes, gravity was certainly a big factor in why you ended up splattered all over the ground, but, no, the reason you’re now splattered all over the ground wasn’t because of gravity. It’s because you jumped out of an airplane and your parachute failed.
Plenty of people under the same financial pressures did not flee California, New York, and elsewhere because of it, and to some extent, the people who left those places behind in 2020 and 2021 did so because of factors like social unrest, spiraling crime rates, and other concerns they’d rather not divulge in surveys. Incidentally, first time gun sales spiked during 2020 and 2021, too, and if you asked first time gun buyers in areas with riots why they were buying, they might tell you it was because of financial pressure, too.
P.S. If you survey women about why they buy hand held massagers shaped like dildos, I bet the overwhelming answer has something to do with neck, shoulder, and back pain.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/LotFancy-Wand-Massager-for-Women-Rechargeable-Handheld-Massager-for-Neck-Shoulder-Back/992691097?
Tony bought one of those devices in a tangerine color. When he is feeling particularly down with his self-esteem near zero, he puts it to use calling it his Orange Man Oh So Good. He is so humiliated but satisfied.
LOL
Speaking of SPB2
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10339797/Thumb-sucking-paedophile-claims-identify-five-year-old-girl-comes-court-dressed-ELF.html
I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of them were in a situation similar to mine. I had been looking to get out of Cali for some time and had been applying for jobs out of state. When I finally got an offer in December ’19 for only slightly less than I was making we beat feet. It was just coincidence of timing that we moved just ahead of Covid.
My guess is that near half of the people who left Cali, NY, etc. were already considering it and the economic shutdown and increased working from home brought by Covid was just the impetus they were looking or waiting for to make the move. I will say that had I not left by May 2020 I would have since the place I was working in Cali has moved most of the work to the Texas plant and only a handful of remote workers are left in Cali.
I’m sure that’s true.
White people moving out is racist white flight, white people moving in is racist gentrification, and white people staying where they are is hording
And the thing is that it’s always been that way.
The hippie boomers fled the cities when they had kids for the same reasons the millennials are doing it now, and millennials are doing the same thing as the supposedly racist boomers–for the exact same reasons. Mike Tyson made a famous statement once, “Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth”. Watching this, it’s more like, “Everybody has a plan until they have kids”. Suddenly, where their kids grow up and where they go to school becomes more important than whatever plans they had before about what kind of lives they were going to live in the new world they were gonna build. It happens to every generation. There is nothing new under the sun.
Majes sense.
When you are married and have kids, being able to walk to a bar or club and get drunk is very low on the priority list when deciding where to live.
Unless your name is Sarc.
It’s not “financial pressure”, it’s stupid lockdown policies.
And if people can work from anywhere, why not move somewhere more affordable with better state government policies?
A: “It’s not financial pressure”
B: “more affordable”
One of these is not like the other.
I get the logic. Financial pressure wasn’t the motivator to move, but once the actual motivator kicks in, it’s an added benefit to move to a less costly location.
Immaterial, irrelevant, whatever Perry Mason and every other TV lawyer would say.
CE expressed an absolute in the first instance, then shot himself down in the second.
What I mean is that the financial pressure was fine for the past 10 years. You just don’t buy a house and keep renting, or buy a small condo. But when you’re locked down you want a nicer place to live/work. And being able to work from anywhere without losing your sweet tech job means you can move somewhere that houses are bigger for less cash.
Actually, it was completely material and relevant. Simply saying “nuh uh” is not a means to refute people.
And if you want to go to a pedantic level, his “absolute” is “financial pressure.” His outcome refers to financial betterment, which is different than financial pressure. Example, I can afford a fine house in an expensive locale. I can afford a huge house in an inexpensive locale. Financial pressure isn’t my issue. Living standard betterment by moving is the issue.
Live by the pedantic sword, die by the pedantic sword.
Actually, it was your standard shovel-full of bullshit. Live by bullshit, die by bullshit, bullshitter.
What are you talking about?
Sevo doesn’t know.
Sevo knows full well; new asshole needs to support their lie, asshole.
“What are you talking about?”
Your standard shovel-full of bullshit – are you so fucking stupid that you can’t understand that?
BTW, do you assume your sanctimonious attitude will somehow protect you from being called on your constant stream of bullshit?
If so, you’re WRONG, asshole; bullshitters get called on their bullshit (see just above) on a regular basis.
Fuck off and die.
In a world where more workers are empowered to live where they like, some states won’t like where workers choose to live.
How long, I wonder, before politicians in the states losing population start snarling “argh we should be able to tax the fuck out of those workers!”. Sure they’re still hitting them for income tax if their employer is in the state, but they are missing out on other taxes like property taxes, sales taxes, gas taxes, etc. And politicians hold the view that they’re entitled to that money.
Holy fuck, Peanuts. Our government has reached a new low:
If you steal something, you must report it as income, IRS says. Wait, what? BY BAILEY ALDRIDGE DECEMBER 28, 2021 10:46 AM
Read more at: https://www.newsobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article256887637.html#storylink=cpy
Do you report the income from video sales?
Pretty sure that has always been in the tax code. I think Turbo tax has always had it under “uncommon” sources of income.
To avoid offending anyone, they plan to rename the category “sales of 100% discount merchandise acquired via neighborhood shopping clubs”.
How do you think they got Al Capone in jail?
It’s called trump income, he stole $Millions from his “charity” and never reported it as income, he just called it stealing from kids with cancer.
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a TDS-addled steaming pile of lefty shit and a pathological liar besides, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit. turd should make the world a better place by fucking off and dying.
So where did all the illegals go? Oops, I meant undocumented tourists.
Aka mail in voters.
Nice information colors name
How many people moving to West Virginia are properly educated and marketably skilled)? How many people moving to Florida are economically productive (rather than retirees, or young people working at subsistence level)?
If current trends continue, California and New York might have a real problem on their hands — in about 250 years. West Virginia, Alabama, and Wyoming, however, will still not be educated, economically successful, decent states. And Florida will still be Florida (the part that is not underwater, of course).
Carry on, clingers. So far and so long as your betters permit, anyway.
Former New York Governor Andrew “Hands” Cuomo (D) had a plan to prevent retirees from moving to Florida.
Muder?
Why not, that’s the easy way to make sure they vote properly.
I don’t think West Virginia really has a burning need for people with degrees in Womyn’s Studies. I find that the people there are educated in useful skills. What is “marketable” in New York City or San Francisco is not necessarily useful in more sensible areas.
But if they work remotely, then it doesn’t matter what West Virginia needs.
California already has a problem on their hands: Gov. Newsom, Eric Garceti, London Breed, and the entire liberal legislature.
High taxes, high gas taxes, idiotic legislation that removed 50% of the semi tractors from the road. legalizing crime, District Attorneys who owe the loyalty to George Soros allow criminals to roam free.
Can’t wait for Cal to fall into the Pacific when the next big one hits.
The Pacific would put out the wildfires.
Not liberal. Anti-liberal and progressive.
Wyoming is one of the highest income states, because it has favorable tax terms.
Also Jed was shooting at some food and up from the ground came a bubbling crude. People said you ought to move away
from there.
On that show, it was always the Clampetts who were the smart ones, and the people like you who were always outclassed.
Just like in real life.
I’ll just leave this here. Perhaps the good rvend can explain why Cali cities only lead in “Percent with an associate’s degree” and “Percent who did not finish the 9th grade”.
Asshole bigot copies pastes his standard bullshit.
Fuck off and die, asshole.
It’s not just the Covid that is driving the migration, it’s the taxes and fees, states like Illinois and California have burdened the citizens with.
It’s state pensions that are underwater and the excess fees legislatures are enacting to cover up for their lack of fiscal responsibility. It’s the poor/failing public education system that endorses such rubbish as critical Race Theory.
It’s the crime wave that liberal prosecutors helped create. The record homicide rates in so many democrat run cities.
It is simply due to mismanagement of those respective states that are mostly to blame.
People are sick of it. That’s why they are moving to other states.
A key reason many/most people moved out of California, New York, and Illinois were the unscientific irrational totalitarian lockdowns, mask mandates and vaccine mandates that power hungry left wing Democrats (and Fauci and CDC) deceitfully claimed were necessary to protect people from covid. Here’s an excellent op/ed in today’s WSJ.
Coercion Made the Pandemic Worse
Freedom is the central component of the best problem-solving system ever devised.
By David R. Henderson and Charles L. Hooper
https://www.wsj.com/articles/coercion-made-the-pandemic-worse-lockdowns-response-testing-vaccination-government-11640617739?mod=opinion_lead_pos8
The online Merriam-Webster dictionary defines “anti-vaxxer” as “a person who opposes the use of vaccines or regulations mandating vaccination.” Where does that leave us? We both strongly favor vaccination against Covid-19; one of us (Mr. Hooper) has spent years working and consulting for vaccine manufacturers. But we strongly oppose government vaccine mandates. If you’re crazy about Hondas but don’t think the government should force everyone to buy a Honda, are you “anti-Honda”?
The people at Merriam-Webster are blurring the distinction between choice and coercion, and that’s not merely semantics. If we accept that the difference between choice and coercion is insignificant, we will be led easily to advocate policies that require a large amount of coercion. Coercive solutions deprive us of freedom and the responsibility that goes with it. Freedom is intrinsically valuable; it is also the central component of the best problem-solving system ever devised.
Free choice relies on persuasion. It recognizes that you are an important participant with key information, problem-solving abilities and rights. Any solution that is adopted, therefore, must be designed to help you and others. Coercion is used when persuasion has failed or is teetering in that direction—or when you are raw material for someone else’s grand plans, however ill-conceived.
Authoritarian governmental approaches hamper problem-solving abilities. They typically involve one-size-fits-all solutions like travel bans and mask mandates. Once governments adopt coercive policies, power-hungry bureaucrats often spout an official party line and suppress dissent, no matter the evidence, and impose further sanctions to punish those who don’t fall in line. Once coercion is set in motion, it’s hard to backtrack.
Consider Australia, until recently a relatively free country. Its Northern Territory has a Covid quarantine camp in Howard Springs where law-abiding citizens can be forcibly sent if they have been exposed to a SARS-CoV-2-positive person or have traveled internationally or between states, even without evidence of exposure. A 26-year-old Australian citizen, Hayley Hodgson, was detained at the camp after she was exposed to someone later found to be positive. Despite three negative tests and no positive ones, she was held in a small enclosed area for 14 days and fed once a day. Even the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says quarantine can end after seven days with negative tests. Why didn’t the government let her quarantine at home? And why doesn’t it exempt or treat differently people who can prove prior vaccination or natural infection?
Although U.S. authorities haven’t gone nearly that far, early in the pandemic the Food and Drug Administration used its coercive power to discourage the development of diagnostic tests for Covid-19. The FDA required private labs wanting to develop tests to submit special paperwork to get approval that it had never required for other diagnostic tests. That, in combination with the CDC’s claims that it had enough testing capacity, meant that testing necessitated the use of a CDC test later determined to be so defective that it found the coronavirus in laboratory-grade water.
With voluntary approaches, we get the benefit of millions of people around the world actively trying to solve problems and make our lives better. We get high-quality vaccines from BioNTech/ Pfizer, Johnson & Johnson and Moderna, instead of the suspect vaccines from the governments of Cuba and Russia. We get good diagnostic tests from Thermo Fisher Scientific instead of the defective CDC one. We get promising therapeutics such as Pfizer’s Paxlovid and Merck’s molnupiravir.
With authoritarian approaches, we get solutions that meet the requirements of those in power, regardless of how we benefit. Consider this hypothetical example:
Policy A ends with 1,000 Covid-19 cases, 5,000 people who have completely lost their liberty for two weeks, 1,000 lost jobs, and 300 missed key family events, such as the funeral of a loved one.
Policy B ends with 1,020 Covid-19 cases, 4,000 who have lost some of their liberty for one week, 1,000 who have completely lost their liberty for two weeks, 300 lost jobs, and 100 missed family events.
The government may prefer Policy A because it is focused on one aspect of the problem. You might prefer Policy B because many aspects of life matter to you—not only coronavirus cases—and B is much better on the other dimensions. But your preferences don’t count.
With coercive solutions, you’ll often deal with an official who will absolve himself of responsibility by pinning the rule on those giving the orders. With voluntary solutions, if it doesn’t make sense, we usually don’t do it. And therein lies one of the greatest protections we have to ensure that the solution isn’t worse than the problem.
The supposed trump card of those who favor coercion is externalities: One person’s behavior can put another at risk. But that’s only half the story. The other half is that we choose how much risk we accept. If some customers at a store exhibit risky behavior, then we can vaccinate, wear masks, keep our distance, shop at quieter times, or avoid the store.
Economists understand how one person can impose a cost on another. But it takes two to tango, and it’s generally more efficient if the person who can change his behavior with the lower cost changes how he behaves. In other words, to perform a proper evaluation of policies to deal with externalities, we must consider the responses available to both parties. Many people, including economists, ignore this insight.
By what principle do we throw out the playbook of the more successful country, ours, and adopt one from less successful, more authoritarian countries? The authoritarian playbook has serious built-in weaknesses, while solutions based on free choice have obvious and not-so-obvious strengths. Freedom is beneficial in good times; it’s even more crucial in challenging times.
Mr. Henderson is a research fellow with the Hoover Institution at Stanford University. He was senior health economist with President Reagan’s Council of Economic Advisers. Mr. Hooper is author of “Should the FDA Reject Itself?” and president of Objective Insights, whose clients include pharmaceutical companies.
Other countries made the mistake of listening to our leadership when it came to covid response.
I left probably 4 years ago. The quality of life had been in steady decline for at least 10 years before that. So glad I got out.
It could be a much better place. There is still an amazing amount of human capital there. I don’t understand why everyone hasn’t left.
10% state income tax (top bracket, but face it if you aren’t paying it you are in poverty) is another great reason to get out.
Top rate is 12.3% now. With a 1% kicker if you’re really raking.
They should just round it up to 100% already.
“Financial pressure is the main reason why people say they move, and pandemic-era public policy created a lot more financial pressure in certain places.”
Financial pressure driven by the mandates of tin-pot-dictator wannbes: A “Planned” economy denies your ability to plan.
Wife and I have a tradition of lunch ‘out’ on Christmas day; lunch at a tavern, big dinner at home later. We have, all of us, watched the news, seen economic trends, adjusted plans as a result and (I’m assuming most of us) had some idea what we might do for lunch next Christmas. In a (largely) market based economy, you can pretty much plan on that place being open on Christmas day, as they have for the last X years. No longer true
Courtesy of Newsom getting up on the wrong side of the bed several weeks back and a huge remaining cohort of Chicken Littles (fuck you JFree, with your PANIC flag wrapped around the chain on a running chainsaw, ditto CNNMSNBCCBSPBS, etc) about the only place open for lunch was a casino on the SF peninsula. Off we went to about the worst meal in memory (THAT’S Sweet and Sour Pork?!). Wife was considering what we might do next year; not possible.
In an economy ‘planned’ by asshole econ-ignoramuses like Newsom, what might be open next Christmas day pretty much depends on whether he has a hangover or not on a certain day; there is no way to predict that with any degree of reliability.
This needs to be understood in the macro also: International trade functioned very well indeed for years as the managers of the trade companies could see with a great degree of accuracy and in large amounts what was gonna go where and when (don’t waste your time pitching autarchy; another ‘planned’ economy)
Want huge numbers of empty containers where they aren’t needed? Want traffic jams of container ships off the CA coast? Want to put up with crummy meals since restaurants closed? Want shelves empty and inflation besides?
Easy: let even very smart people try to ‘plan’ the economy, let alone econ-ignoramuses like Fauci, Newsom and Cuomo.
Planned economies DO NOT WORK!
For me, a big question is if Elon Musk first officially established himself as a Texas resident long enough so he won’t have to pay perhaps $5 BILLION dollars in California capital gains (CG) taxes on the huge sales of his stock in 2021.
The top CA state income tax bracket is 13.3% — INCLUDING capital gains. That rate, combined with the present federal CG tax rate, makes the total top CA CG tax higher than any country except Denmark.
He has to be an official resident in Texas for over half the year to have chance to avoid the absurdly high 13.3% CA capital gains tax. Even then, the FTB will fight like mad to make him still pay CA taxes, even if he did his move correctly. It could take years to resolve in the courts.
IMHO, he would have been wise to wait until the second half of 2022 to make the sales. MUCH better chance he’d avoid the CA capital gains tax. But then, he might be concerned about the future value of his stock.
This article details the 2021 increase in the outflow of Californians to other states, coupled with an even more dramatic drop in the net INFLOW of migrants from those states TO California. Outflow increased 12% while the inflow DECREASED a startling 38%.
The CA region most impacted by this latest net domestic (out)migration is, not surprisingly, the Bay Area. I was mildly surprised to find that of the 58 CA counties, San Diego County had the sixth highest net outmigration percentage this past year.
The San Francisco exodus isn’t over, according to new migration data.
Here’s where people are moving
https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2021/california-bay-area-migration-maps/
Here we go again with the mediocre Confederate nonsense. Real estate in NY, CA, & DC is the most expensive in the nation. Demand to live there is what is forcing people out. White supremacists who claim to worship the free market suddenly lose their minds when it tells them the most liberal areas are the most desirable real estate.
Here we go again with lefty shits inventing strawmen.
Fuck off and die.
Here we go again with the mediocre liberal nonsense.
So much ‘demand’ they’re fleeing like it was the plague.
The thing keeping CA prices high is the shortage of new housing. For much of the last decade, the CITY of Houston issued more home building permits annually than the STATE of California.
We can call California many things, but a “free market” ain’t one of them.
Now that the Nazi’s have conquered and consumed their own — it’s time to move onto the next “greener pasture” to conquer and consume.
….because that’s how Nazi’s (National Socialists) roll……….
Nice information colors name
Nearly boundless. If you don’t need water. Or a place to build a house. And if you can live long enough to get all the permits to access said natural resources.
A nonsense article! California is fantastic. And houses are snapped up as fast as they go on the market. Why don’t we have a housing surplus if all these people are leaving? Wonderful living here. Let us know how it goes when Virginia and Florida and Texas are under water. Short sighted to move to those areas.
Cali’s lack of water has an easy fix that they won’t take because plankton.
Actually, the state is pretty big. There are a lot of places outside the big cities where life is still OK. In some, the sheriffs won’t waste resources chasing down silly laws.
Our reservoir started overflowing in October.
But they’ve been studying the issue for 50 years. They will no doubt come up with a solution any day now. After they decommission the last nuclear power plant in the state.
Is it easier than not dumping water out of the reserves into the pacific ocean (Cali recently passed more than 50% water usage is dumping out, this includes farming in its own category
“Let us know how it goes when Virginia and Florida and Texas are under water.”
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha….
Oh wow!
Not in your lifetime. U r but a foolish little windup toy that spouts nonsense 24/7.
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