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Reason Roundup

With Build Back Better in Doubt, Biden and Democrats Pivot to Voting Rights

Plus: Airline CEOs push back on masks on airplanes and the Fed prepares to fight inflation.

Robby Soave | 12.16.2021 9:30 AM

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It's not looking good for the Build Back Better (BBB) plan: Senate Democrats had hoped to approve President Joe Biden's $1.7 trillion spending package by Christmas, but Sen. Joe Manchin (D–W.Va.)—the lone holdout—is not yet on board.

Negotiations between Biden and Manchin are not going well, according to The Washington Post:

Despite days of negotiations, the gaps between the two sides seemed newly immense. Biden sought to safeguard his economic agenda from significant cuts, while Manchin continued to insist on steep spending reductions. The private wrangling offered a marked contrast with the public proclamations of progress coming from both powerful Democrats in recent weeks.

The impasse left party lawmakers on Capitol Hill impatient and frustrated, after they spent months trying to slim down their original spending ambitions to win Manchin's still-elusive support. Some Democrats grew especially concerned about the fate of one of their most widely touted proposals—an extension of a soon-expiring federal program that provides roughly 35 million families with monthly child tax aid. Without a resolution, those Americans could have received their final payment Wednesday.

The vote could be delayed until March, according to NBC:

Asked whether his resistance to the bill was related to the inclusion of child tax credit payments, Manchin told reporters that, "I've always been for child tax credits. We voted for it many times."

"This is bull----," he added. "You're bull----."

The last of the child tax credit payments goes out Wednesday unless the Senate can pass the safety net bill before the new year.

Schumer, however, has not signaled a public willingness to throw in the towel.

"The president and Sen. Manchin are having many discussions, and we're waiting to see the outcome of those," Schumer told reporters on Wednesday.

If not BBB, then what? Democrats gave some indication they might attempt to pass a voting rights bill instead.

"Voting rights should be the very next thing we do," Sen. Raphael Warnock (D–Ga.) said in a statement. "We've got to get Medicaid expansion, we've got to get child care, we've got to get relief to farmers. All of those things matter. But the point I'm making in this moment is: we have to have a democratic framework to continue to push for those things."

Republicans will filibuster any attempt to approve voting rights legislation, however, which means that the Senate would also have to okay a filibuster exception for whatever bill emerges. There's no reason to think Manchin will go for that, either; in fact, he explicitly said he wouldn't. Broader filibuster reform is an even bigger non-starter, since centrist Democrats are smart enough to realize that this would be wielded against them by the GOP majority come 2022.

I suppose it would be pretty fitting for Democrats to look at polls showing a GOP takeover of the Senate next year and conclude that *now* is the perfect time to end the legislative filibuster

— Eric Boehm (@EricBoehm87) December 16, 2021

In any case, if the pivot away from BBB and toward voting rights has Biden frustrated, he isn't showing it yet.

The president was asked by reporters with him today about Congress considering action on voting rights ahead of BBB, "They should do it.  There's nothing more important, domestically, than voting rights.  It's the single biggest thing."

— Kelly O'Donnell (@KellyO) December 15, 2021


FREE MINDS

The CEOs of American Airlines and Southwest Airlines have both indicated that they believe masking on airplanes is largely pointless.

"I think the case is very strong that masks don't add much, if anything, in the air cabin environment," Gary Kelly, CEO of Southwest, said during a hearing on Wednesday. "It is very safe and very high quality compared to any other indoor setting."

"I concur," said Doug Parker, CEO of American Airlines. "An aircraft is the safest place you can be. It's true of all of our aircraft—they all have the same HEPA filters and air flow."

The comments triggered Sen. Ed Markey (D–Mass.), who expressed dismay that anyone would cast doubt on the importance of masks.

"I'm shocked that some of the CEOs here today have suggested we no longer need masks mandates on planes," said Markey. "In the face of omicron, children under 5 who still cannot be vaccinated…and that we still allow unvaccinated people on planes." If it was entirely up to some Democrats, airplane passengers would have to be masked and vaccinated.

Wearing masks on long flights is annoying, of course. But for some families, the requirement prevents them from traveling at all. It can be very difficult for parents to force young children to wear masks for hours, and many end up skipping air travel altogether to avoid the embarrassing spectacle.

"Last week, President Joe Biden effectively put millions of American families on a no-fly list, one that has been growing for nearly two years," wrote Bethany Mandel in the Deseret News. "It's not explicit: Of course, most Americans can technically fly. But in reality, there are many families for whom it's become impossible, thanks to COVID-19 mandates surrounding air travel.

"By now, you've seen the viral videos of the families forcibly removed from flights because their child, usually a toddler, is unable or unwilling to be masked for the duration of the flight. Those videos aren't just traumatic for the unfortunate individuals finding themselves at the center of a firestorm; they have a way of intimidating anyone with a young child or disabled individual unable to mask from even attempting public transportation of any kind."


FREE MARKETS

The Federal Reserve is planning to raise interest rates in the spring to grapple with soaring inflation. Three raises—a quarter of a percentage point each—will take place next year, The Wall Street Journal reported.

"Economic developments and changes in the outlook warrant this evolution," Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell said.

The news was well received by the stock market: The S&P 500 rose 1.63 percent, the Dow Jones Industrial Average rose 1.08 percent, and the Nasdaq Composite Index increased by 2.15 percent.

According to The New York Times:

Mr. Powell's public shift to sounding more concerned about inflation came shortly after President Biden announced on Nov. 22 that he would appoint him to a second term as chair, saying he believed Mr. Powell would focus on both the need to control inflation and fostering a strong economy that creates jobs and pushes wages higher.

That timing fueled speculation about whether Mr. Powell turned toward fighting inflation and putting less primacy on keeping borrowing cheap once he had secured reappointment — or that his reappointment gave him a new mandate to act more boldly, knowing he would be around to carry out the plan.

But Mr. Powell batted back that idea on Wednesday, providing a detailed look at his own evolution in thinking about inflation and the data that convinced him the Fed needed to speed up its plans.

"It had nothing to do with it at all," he said of the reappointment, noting that other Fed officials were already setting up the change in policy before Mr. Biden's decision was announced. "My colleagues were out there talking about a faster taper, and that doesn't happen by accident."


QUICK HITS

  • The government released 1,000 secret JFK assassination files.
  • San Francisco Mayor London Breed (D) announced a crackdown on crime. "What I'm proposing today and what I will be proposing in the future will make a lot of people uncomfortable and I don't care," she said. "At the end of the day the safety of the people of San Francisco is the most important thing to me. We are past the point where what we see is even remotely acceptable."
  • House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D–Calif.) said members of Congress should not be barred from stock trading because "this is a free market, we are a free market economy."
  • Twitter said it would punish users who made the (truthful) claim that vaccinated individuals can spread COVID-19.

Hugh Hewitt is moderating a Minnesota GOP gubernatorial debate and the first question he asked: did Biden legitimately win the 2020 election?

Not one of the five candidates came anywhere close to saying yes.

— Tim Hogan (@timjhogan) December 16, 2021

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Senate Democrats had hoped to approve President Joe Biden's $1.7 trillion spending package by Christmas, but Sen. Joe Manchin (D–W.Va.)—the lone holdout—is not yet on board.

    You're a mean one, Mister Grinch.

    1. HorseConch   3 years ago

      There will be trillions of dead children if that monster doesn't cave.

      1. Jerry B.   3 years ago

        Well, that'll reduce the amount of Child Care Credit outlays.

        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   3 years ago

          And reduce carbon emissions, I think we're only 7 years till doomsday per the models!

          1. HorseConch   3 years ago

            We're at negative 7 if you go by some models.

            1. Sometimes a Great Notion   3 years ago

              Shit explains why the last 2 years have been living hell; and hear I was blaming it all on politicians and their "health" mandates.

              1. MatthewSlyfield   3 years ago

                Repent, the world is never coming to an end.

                1. R Mac   3 years ago

                  Covid IS purgatory.

                  1. JimboJr   3 years ago

                    What if we all died of some mass extinction event and the afterlife/purgatory is just "hey what if COVID happened in the book 1984"

                    1. newshutz   3 years ago

                      What if the mass extinction event is caused by a disease that is exacerbated by wearing masks?

                    2. Betty H. Pipkins   3 years ago

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                2. Uilleam   3 years ago

                  Jeeze that's depressing. I was hoping to get a break at some point.

            2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

              I think we have all died at least a couple of dozen times since the 1970s.

              1. Dillinger   3 years ago

                dude. the whole fucking planet reversed poles and everyone died in 2012. I was there q.e.d.

                ~~ John Cusack

                1. Chumby   3 years ago

                  Is Cusak suggesting we would be Better Off Dead?

                  1. R Mac   3 years ago

                    You’ll Say Anything for a chuckle.

                    1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

                      As that movie showed, the IRS is nothing with which to fornicate.

                  2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

                    No, just that it would be better to Be John Malkovich.

      2. CE   3 years ago

        And no joy in Whoville. Unless you're a Who who pays taxes.

      3. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

        Oh noes! Not Cindy Lou Who from Whoville! She won't even have a can of Who Hash!

        1. MK Ultra   3 years ago

          Who Hash, brought to you by Pete Townshend.

          1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

            Kurt Cobain's knock-off (*ahem!* pardon) is Red Flannel Hash.

            And Glenn Frye's "Smuggler's Blues" sounds like it refers to "cacaine on corned beef hash."

            Perhaps Courtney will sue Glenn over Patent infringement.

          2. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

            SOYLENT ORANGE IS WHO HASH!!!!

            https://www.flickr.com/photos/66890686@N02/38109028265/

            1. Make Democrats Extinct   3 years ago

              Is there a Doctor Who will verify that?

      4. Make Democrats Extinct   3 years ago

        Hundreds of trillions!

  2. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    The president and Sen. Manchin are having many discussions, and we're waiting to see the outcome of those...

    "Listen, Jack..."

    1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

      "C'mon, Man!..."

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   3 years ago

        Biden knows how to handle bad dudes, like Man Pop.

        1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          That lying dog-faced pony soldier?

        2. MatthewSlyfield   3 years ago

          Biden doesn't know what he had for breakfast.

          1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

            Except that it might be some flavor of Boost or Jello Pudding Pop.

            1. VinniUSMC   3 years ago

              Don't hate on my Boost, man. It's a delicious way to start my day. Who actually wants to wake up early just to make breakfast?

              1. NOYB2   3 years ago

                Try a continental breakfast.

          2. Chumby   3 years ago

            Given that it is now early afternoon (aka nap time), the official diaper changer of the POTUS probably does.

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

      Fuck Joe Biden

  3. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Democrats gave some indication they might attempt to pass a voting rights bill instead.

    They could always name another post office.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Or trains. Something with trains.

      1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

        You know who else had something with trains?

  4. Chumby   3 years ago

    Dems Shift From Build Back Better to Fortify Back Better

    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      I think a glance at the recent poll numbers meant that fortifying voting "rights" before the midterms has become vital.

      1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        Maybe that should read "fortifying" "voting" "rights".

        1. ElvisIsReal   3 years ago

          Either way, you're spot on. The only way to dodge the oncoming train is to pile millions of mail-in ballots over the tracks.

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

        I have an unenumerated right to enter a nursing home and help dementia patients fortify elections. Trumpistas would deny me that right.
        #libertariansagainstthefilibusterwhenDemocratshaveamajority

    2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

      Seige Back Better.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    I suppose it would be pretty fitting for Democrats to look at polls showing a GOP takeover of the Senate next year and conclude that *now* is the perfect time to end the legislative filibuster

    Polls showed them Hillary was a shoo-in. Who listens to polls. Ending the filibuster might just be the thing that energizes the midterm voter to pull the lever of all the Dems on the ballot.

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   3 years ago

      Speaking of Hillary, lmao.

      https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/585843-hillary-2024-given-the-competition-she-may-be-the-dems-best-hope

      1. NoVaNick   3 years ago

        Don’t laugh too hard- Joe will be out, so too will be Kamala. Who do they have left?

        1. MatthewSlyfield   3 years ago

          Bernie.
          AOC.

        2. MatthewSlyfield   3 years ago

          How about Joe Manchin?

          1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

            The blasphemer?

          2. The Great Negro   3 years ago

            Pelosi?

        3. Sometimes a Great Notion   3 years ago

          If they were smart, the Dem establishment would exile Hillary to the wilderness and make peace with Tulsi Gabbard. She always struck me as their best path forward past all these aging Boomers.

          1. Commenter_XY   3 years ago

            She is an interesting blend of individualism and democratic socialism. I was personally glad when she put a fucking stilletto into Crooked Hillary with her warmonger moniker. It fit, perfectly.

          2. ElvisIsReal   3 years ago

            They are less interested in Tulsi Gabbard than the GOP was interested in Ron Paul. And likely for the same exact reason.

            1. Square = Circle   3 years ago

              ^

          3. Make Democrats Extinct   3 years ago

            The Phantom Zone would be better.

        4. Utkonos   3 years ago

          America’s Mother-In-Law?

      2. JimboJr   3 years ago

        Nothing would be better than having a Trump v Hillary part 2 and him smoking her again. There would not be enough tear barrels for the little SJW's losing their minds over it.

        1. Overt   3 years ago

          They will not allow Trump v Hillary P2. What will happen is Hillary v He Who Must Not Be Named. Oh you will hear about some jerk in the GOP who said something bad. But debates? Actual coverage of speeches? HAH!

          1. JesseAz   3 years ago

            They are still trying to get trump on tax crimes.

            1. Uilleam   3 years ago

              They're desperate to keep him from running again. The voting fortification network might not work as well next time.

          2. dbruce   3 years ago

            It would be fun to watch her beat him again, but anyone could beat someone in jail, who only has an hour out of his cell a day.

            1. JimboJr   3 years ago

              ^ what's the Poe's law on this guy?

              1. Square = Circle   3 years ago

                In fairness, the walls are closing in.

              2. dbruce   3 years ago

                https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/07/20/this-anti-voter-fraud-program-gets-it-wrong-over-99-of-the-time-the-gop-wants-to-take-it-nationwide/

                1. soldiermedic76   3 years ago

                  Ohh burn, cites a wapo editorial, he sure showed ypu

                  1. R Mac   3 years ago

                    Dbruce is to be ignored soldier.

                    1. Make Democrats Extinct   3 years ago

                      I like ridiculing him.

                    2. dbruce   3 years ago

                      Ignore at your own peril, ignorance can cost your life unless you have a team of specialists 24 hours a day.

                    3. R Mac   3 years ago

                      I DO have a team of specialists 24 hours a day.

                2. Make Democrats Extinct   3 years ago

                  Well that’s some jewelers bullshit can wipe my ass with. You got anything that isn’t bullshit Marxist propaganda?

            2. Make Democrats Extinct   3 years ago

              You’re a silly faggot, with your mindless Marxist bullshit.

    2. Unicorn Abattoir   3 years ago

      They didn't learn their lesson with the judicial filibuster, they're not going to learn it now.

      1. JimboJr   3 years ago

        I cannot tell you how many lefties here at work are clamoring for them to lose the filibuster, pack the court, do everything by EO; and every single one of them will scream "FASCISM!" when an R gets to use it against them.

        No principles, no foresight, this is what happens when you are dealing with children.

        1. Cronut   3 years ago

          That's why they're moving on to "voting rights." End the filibuster, pass the election rigging bill, and ensure that no R ever gets to use those powers.

          1. JasonAZ   3 years ago

            Sadly, this is true.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    "I'm shocked that some of the CEOs here today have suggested we no longer need masks mandates on planes," said Markey. "In the face of omicron..."

    At which point everyone in the room groaned.

    1. Chumby   3 years ago

      They didn’t mask their disapproval of the pun?

    2. Anomalous   3 years ago

      Face of Omicron sounds like a good band name.

      1. The Great Negro   3 years ago

        Didn’t they open for Emerson lake & Palmer?

        1. Apollonius   3 years ago

          They were the soundtrack band for "Bob and Carol and Ted And Alice" . . .

      2. MK Ultra   3 years ago

        Head of the CDC can play guitar and sing.

    3. Bill Godshall   3 years ago

      The good news is that the lying left wing socialist Markey isn't running for reelection.

      1. NoVaNick   3 years ago

        Don’t worry-he will be replaced by someone just as bad.

      2. Chumby   3 years ago

        As he walks away from public office, he knows he has left his Markey mark.

        1. Uilleam   3 years ago

          *groans in pain*

          1. Sometimes a Great Notion   3 years ago

            Funny, I got Good Vibrations from the comment.

            1. Uilleam   3 years ago

              *falls down dead*

        2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

          "Sassy!"
          https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/sassys-sassiest-boys-with-christian-slater-mark-wahlberg-and-rick-schroder/2868138

        3. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

          Don't listen to the haters Chumby. That's comedy gold.

        4. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

          He can always run for pres as No Malarkey Markey. The signs are probably still stored somewhere.

    4. MT-Man   3 years ago

      They should probably just ban the elderly from flying.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Or driving.

        1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

          Or being Commander-In-Fhief.

          1. Nachtwaechter Staater   3 years ago

            Was the "F" above supposed to be "C" or a "T"?

            1. Apollonius   3 years ago

              It's non-binary.

  7. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

    "The Federal Reserve is planning to raise interest rates in the spring to grapple with soaring inflation."

    There. Is. Literally. No. Inflation.

    There is only a mere 10 cent increase in the price of a single item — spittin' tobaccy. Which is totally gross and you shouldn't be buying it anyway.

    #InflationIsAWingnutMyth
    #DefendBidenAtAllCosts

    1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

      "Voting rights should be the very next thing we do," Sen. Raphael Warnock (D–Ga.) said in a statement. "We've got to get Medicaid expansion, we've got to get child care, we've got to get relief to farmers. All of those things matter. But the point I'm making in this moment is: we have to have a democratic framework to continue to push for those things."

      In other words, Senator Warnock is saying we have to approve all the Government programs that make health care, child care, and farm products consisten5ly even more expensive than the rate of inflation.

      By the way, this video is for you and all who deny the existence of inflation:

      And Spit...
      https://youtu.be/Y_ZPOF0kRaM

  8. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    If it was entirely up to some Democrats, airplane passengers would have to be masked and vaccinated.

    Todays Democrat's savvy staffer knows that double barrel signaling mandates from his boss is a clear winner at the polls.

    1. Chumby   3 years ago

      Surprised there isn’t a proposal for a TSA booster.

      1. Rich   3 years ago

        Just a matter of time, C.

        1. Chumby   3 years ago

          The long arm of the law…

      2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

        Administered rectally, one assumes.

      3. NOYB2   3 years ago

        Please step into the booth for your ENHANCED TSA search.

        The proper term is "enhanced".

  9. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    The government released 1,000 secret JFK assassination files.

    Finally fulfilling a promise Trump couldn't keep.

    1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   3 years ago

      A new book is coming out soon that will link Trump to the grassy knoll.

    2. dbruce   3 years ago

      Breaking promises, ask any of his 3 wives.

      1. Make Democrats Extinct   3 years ago

        Uh huh. So what’s up with Biden molesting his daughter?

        1. dbruce   3 years ago

          You need more truthful sources...then24 and national file are extreme right Tin-Foil Hat Conspiracy websites based on the promotion of unproven/debunked claims and a Strong Pseudoscience purveyor based on using junk science to support claims. Failed Fact Checks Was Nancy Pelosi’s son an executive for a Ukrainian gas company? – FALSE
          Says the sons of Nancy Pelosi, Mitt Romney, and John Kerry are all on the boards of “energy companies doing business in Ukraine.” – FALSE
          Is the United Nations office in New York recruiting paramilitary troops for disarmament and reintegration of U.S. civilians? – FALSE
          A yearbook photo shows Mark Kelly dressed as Adolf Hitler. – False
          CDC Inflated COVID Numbers and violated federal Law. – False
          “Pfizer [COVID-19] vaccine confirmed to cause neurodegenerative diseases”; “mRNA vaccines […] can integrate into the human genome” – Inaccurate
          The Australian government seized and forcibly vaccinated 24,000 students. – False These guys are so crazy they make QAnon look like a dictionary.

    3. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

      Spoiler alert! It was old lady Zapruder.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

        Viral marketing for her old man's movie.

  10. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D–Calif.) said members of Congress should not be barred from stock trading because "this is a free market, we are a free market economy."

    Have I mentioned that the modern Democratic Party is basically a caricature of what 1980s Democrats would have said about 1980s Republicans? That they're the party of the wealthy and powerful?

    #OBLsFirstLaw
    #LibertariansForPelosi

    1. Anomalous   3 years ago

      Kleptocracy? What kleptocracy?

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Leona Helmsley approves.

  11. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    San Francisco Mayor London Breed (D) announced a crackdown on crime.

    lol

    1. damikesc   3 years ago

      SF: Lambasting Our Lawlessness!

    2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

      Isn't London Breed a sex position?

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        I thought it was a kind of dog.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          Why not both?

        2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          A famous racehorse actually.

        3. R Mac   3 years ago

          A punk band.

          1. Chumby   3 years ago

            When he telephones, the receptionist pages you with, “London calling.”

            1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

              That might involve a Clash of schedules.

          2. MK Ultra   3 years ago

            Dig the New Breed.

        4. dbruce   3 years ago

          doggie style

          1. CDRSchafer   3 years ago

            The KKK is behind getting Breed, Bottoms, Bowser and LIghtfoot elected Mayors and Harris VP because they are doing such a shit job no one will want a black woman in high office ever again.

    3. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

      It's like the quote attributed to Winston Churchill: “You can always count on the Americans to do the right thing after they have tried everything else.”

      When I first heard the quote, someone had substituted "Congress" for "Americans", but it would work to substitute "San Francisco government".

  12. Rich   3 years ago

    It can be very difficult for parents to force young children to wear masks for hours

    In the good ol' days "soothing syrup" handled such problems.

    1. Ragnarredbeard   3 years ago

      Bourbon. Several shots of bourbon and you won't mind the screaming kid at all.

      1. Anomalous   3 years ago

        Bourbon fixes a multitude of problems.

      2. Minadin   3 years ago

        They stopped serving alcohol on the more recent flights I have taken.

        1. Overt   3 years ago

          ^^ This. It's almost as if they are trying to turn airplanes into cattle cars.

          1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

            Almost???

            I remember reading about steerage class as a kid and feeling terrible for the poor people who could only afford it. Now I think "If only".

          2. MP   3 years ago

            I got two free Sweetwater IPAs on my last Delta flight in November. I think because I smiled (I really have no idea why).

            1. Minadin   3 years ago

              Damn. Southwest had no adult beverages on their menu for either flight of my Thanksgiving trip. And the cabin crew warned us that we would get in trouble if we spiked our own beverages.

            2. MK Ultra   3 years ago

              Has caused me a few as well, but I don't keep score.

            3. MK Ultra   3 years ago

              WHY DID YOU HAVE YOUR MASK DOWN FOR PEOPLE TO SEE YOU SMILE? BLASPHEMER!

          3. soldiermedic76   3 years ago

            Don't worry, read an article yesterday that stated we'll have to give up all air travel (including medical, defense and overnight packaging) in order to defeat climate change. The writer actually thought that this would decrease casualties in war because every country will most certainly give up aircraft to stop climate change.
            Of course it should be mentioned air warfare as it has advanced has actually decreased casualties, but the writer seemed so sure of themselves and as proof referenced WW2.

        2. Sometimes a Great Notion   3 years ago

          That's why god created mini bottles and carry on luggage.

          1. Minadin   3 years ago

            Yeah, we got warned about that also.

            1. Sometimes a Great Notion   3 years ago

              Damn, I've only had one airline ever give me grief over that move and it was 8 years ago on a budget airline on a quick flight to NC.

          2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

            Actually, the Holy Trinity of Jack, George, and Jim (among other brands) created mini-bottles. God does not exist. *Tips fedora* M'Lady.

            1. Sometimes a Great Notion   3 years ago

              He worked his magic through them, like Steve Jobs and the Iphone.

              1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   3 years ago

                Yeah, I was gonna say. Whiskey is proof of God's existence.

                1. Uilleam   3 years ago

                  Hear, hear!

                  1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

                    Drink enough liquor and you will "Hear, hear" echos, echos, echos... 🙂

                2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

                  Sorry, Chuck P. Whiskey is entirely human-made. Some simple alcohols occur in nature, but even so, no evidence of "Intelligent Design."

              2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

                Still not proof, much as Steve Jobs might like to have thought he was God Encarnate and iTablets were The Decalogue.

          3. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

            Also, American Tourister created carry-on luggage, and tested them with some our cousins in Darwin's family tree of animals:
            AMERICAN TOURISTER--The Gorilla CommerciL 1971
            https://youtu.be/Q5sEIWlQO7A

    2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

      Rum does hqve that texture.

  13. Longtobefree   3 years ago

    BBB
    Budget Busting Boondoggle

  14. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    We are past the point where what we see is even remotely acceptable.

    When a city decides it can no longer lie in the bed it made.

    1. JasonAZ   3 years ago

      Imagine, cutting funding for the police and not prosecuting criminals because they minorities, will lead to more crime. SMH.

  15. Rich   3 years ago

    "We are past the point where what we see is even remotely acceptable."

    "I am therefore mandating, in addition to masks and vaccines, blindfolds for all San Franciscans."

    1. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

      Did she even consider making it illegal to report crime? (Probably yes: the day after the Tony! Toni! Toné! reunion.)

    2. dbruce   3 years ago

      Republicans don't believe in masks and have banned all masks for surgeons and nurses, they don't work and they are making Fauci look good.

      1. DesigNate   3 years ago

        B+

      2. Chumby   3 years ago

        Just wear your 90 mil poly mask, comrade.

      3. damikesc   3 years ago

        Not the best work I've seen. Decent first attempt, though. 6.5/10

        1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

          You are overly generous

          1. Uilleam   3 years ago

            'Tis the season!

        2. Apollonius   3 years ago

          He screwed the landing. 3 at best.

      4. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   3 years ago

        The reason obl works is amount after he makes a declaration, no matter how rediculous, it comes true. See the Pelosi one below

        1. R Mac   3 years ago

          Plus OBL knows how the reply button works so half his posts aren’t in the wrong place.

      5. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   3 years ago

        banned all masks for surgeons and nurses, they don't work

        I spit in your general direction.

        While you are having open heart surgery.

        1. Ben of Houston   3 years ago

          Masking of sick people is useful and reasonable.
          Masking in a situation where people are vulnerable or likely to spread disease (sick, elderly, medical settings in general) is useful and reasonable.

          Masking of healthy people in setting where there is no vulnerability is a waste of time.

          Masking of people who will have extended contact with each other is completely useless, as the small reduction in viral load received doesn't matter if you are going to be together for hours.

      6. MT-Man   3 years ago

        I feel like dbruce is some elderly man who hangs out at his local herbal tea shop to get his world

        1. dbruce   3 years ago

          Did you "peter" out there at the end ?

          1. Make Democrats Extinct   3 years ago

            You’re boring.

            1. dbruce   3 years ago

              https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/17/politics/house-committee-trump-covid-19/index.html

      7. MK Ultra   3 years ago

        What passes for top-notch humor over at BuzzPost. Meh.

    3. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

      No. Blindfords are for the kinky after-party.

  16. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

    "San Francisco Mayor London Breed (D) announced a crackdown on crime."

    Nooooooooooo!

    How dare she question the Koch / Soros / Reason #EmptyThePrisons agenda! It's working so well!

    Hopefully soft-on-crime billionaires will fund a better candidate next election cycle.

    #BillionairesKnowBest
    #CheapLaborAboveAll

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      I think we should write “elections”

  17. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D–Calif.) said members of Congress should not be barred from stock trading because "this is a free market, we are a free market economy."

    What's the point of even being a representative if you can't trade on the inside information you receive/manipulate? To represent your shitty district?

    1. damikesc   3 years ago

      I wonder if she'd be open to repealing all insider information laws. And why she definitely would not be.

    2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

      Get a load of that quaint talk about free markets! Like where the Hell has Nancy Lugosi been since The Progressive Era of the late 1800s?

      1. Apollonius   3 years ago

        Congress.

        1. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

          Oh, my.

    3. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

      So, now we've got Nancy Pelosi sticking up for free markets, and right-wing anti-vaxxers calling pharmaceutical companies greedy for making profits.

      1. JimboJr   3 years ago

        "So, now we've got Nancy Pelosi sticking up for free markets, and right-wing anti-vaxxers calling pharmaceutical companies greedy for making profits."

        Well yes and no. Nancy is throwing around the term free market as if it is somehow in any way related to this conversation despite the fact that it's not. "You republicans wanted a FREE MARKET? right?!"

        Unfortunately she doesn't want a free market. She wants an authoritarian dem govt that picks winners and losers, preferably the winners that she likes. She wants massive govt regulation. And she wants to use the information she gets from making said regulations, to buy and sell millions in stocks before that info is made public. And she wants to call that a "free market". A market where she is free to essentially do insider trading with policy she makes. Thats a free market in that it has both "free" and "market" in the same sentence. But it has nothing to do with an actual free market.

        1. Uilleam   3 years ago

          Every comment Mike makes is dishonest. He isn't here to argue in good faith. He is here to convince you not to trust your own common sense.

        2. Square = Circle   3 years ago

          Thats a free market in that it has both "free" and "market" in the same sentence. But it has nothing to do with an actual free market.

          ^

          If Pelosi is only defending "free markets" when it comes to her right to buy and sell stocks that she can influence the price of, that's not defending free markets. Call me when she thinks I should be allowed to buy and sell whatever I want.

      2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   3 years ago

        right-wing anti-vaxxers calling pharmaceutical companies greedy

        LOL! Calling L. Ron Hubbard 'right wing'.

      3. Uilleam   3 years ago

        This is White Mike admitting that he is okay with a strong central government working with Pfizer et al. in order to maximize profits on a "vaccine" for a virus that is over 99% survivable. He does not see anything morally wrong here and if you disagree then you're an idiot who cannot trust your own lying eyes.

      4. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

        All that means is that those words do not mean what either side thinks they mean.

        1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

          Probably so.

      5. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

        Greedy for making profits through cronyism and regulatory capture, facilitating tax dollar-paid products sold via government mandates (de facto and otherwise)? Yeah, that might be the view of some people.

  18. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Twitter said it would punish users who made the (truthful) claim that vaccinated individuals can spread COVID-19.

    @jack was a little too loose with narrative control.

    1. damikesc   3 years ago

      What other truths are barred from Twitter? Would it be rude to ask him for a comprehensive list of what realities he disapproves of?

      And, if Twitter wants to call it untrue (because, on Twitter, TWITTER says things are untrue), should they be liable for slander for calling people liars?

      Note, Section 230 was not passed to allow this type of bullshit.

      1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        It's the opposite of the intent of 230, but the Good Samaritan clause is too broad and easy to abuse. And so it is.

        1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

          Not to mention the mere name "Good Samaritan" is genuinely racist, yet is still used both in The New Testiment and the law. Of all the things falsely accused of racism nowadays, one thing that really is racist is overlooked even by Woke Progressives.

          1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

            Samaritan's were, and are, genetically identical to first century Jews. It would be sectarian bigotry rather than racial. Like Irish Catholics and Protestants.
            It would be sectarian because the Samaritans had essentially the same religion. The difference being that mainstream Judaism held the Temple Mount in Jerusalem as the appropriate place for the Tabernacle of God, while the Samaritans figured that it should be Mount Gerizim.

            1. Square = Circle   3 years ago

              Plus the whole point of the "Good Samaritan" story is not to judge someone based on their membership in some group you don't like - "i.e. don't assume all Samaritans are jerks."

      2. ElvisIsReal   3 years ago

        And, if Twitter wants to call it untrue (because, on Twitter, TWITTER says things are untrue), should they be liable for slander for calling people liars?
        --------
        Alex Berenson is going to find out.

    2. Overt   3 years ago

      Good snark, but I think CEOs should really pay attention to what happened to Dorsey. I've seen several talks with him in semi-private settings, and he really does come off as a Free Speech near-absolutist. But as a lefty, I think he was blinded as his company weaponized itself.

      Then one day he woke up and saw that remote workers buried in his company were moderating speech based on political preferences and it was already too late.

      This, by the way, is what happens when you don't lead by principles. When you let shit slide because it isn't your ox being gored, or it is fucking with the "bad" people. By the time you figure out that you have systemized the capacity for violating those principles, it's too late.

      1. JimboJr   3 years ago

        "This, by the way, is what happens when you don't lead by principles. When you let shit slide because it isn't your ox being gored,"

        A little unrelated, but this is what I thought when hearing the sarah silverman thing. Just listening her stutter around, completely in disbelief that she could be shut down and called a racist so easily the second she had the nerve to say the grass is green and sky is blue. She sounded like she was dumbfounded that someone could be shut down for saying what is plainly obvious to anyone with a working brain because it goes against the party line, and that someone would just casually hide behind the race card to accomplish this.

        These people let this stuff go on because its for the cause, and its being used against the "right" bad guys, but never think for a second..."wait, if someone were to use this against me or my side...I wouldnt like that at all". No principles at all.

        1. JasonAZ   3 years ago

          Sarah Silverman deserves every bit of this. She's a ragging Progressive and elitists. She's always been happy to see the race card played on others, as long as those others are icky non-Progressives. Question Obama? She would have told you that is racist, without hesitation.

          Watching the Progressives start to eat their own is delicious to watch. Sad, but delicious.

      2. R Mac   3 years ago

        “This, by the way, is what happens when you don't lead by principles. When you let shit slide because it isn't your ox being gored, or it is fucking with the "bad" people. By the time you figure out that you have systemized the capacity for violating those principles, it's too late.”

        Someone should tell Reason.

        1. JasonAZ   3 years ago

          Yeah, still waiting on a story about Ashlee Babbit shooting. Or, anything on Australia's concentration camps.

          1. Uilleam   3 years ago

            Those are local stories.

          2. soldiermedic76   3 years ago

            They did do a story on Australia and assured us the concentration camps are really nice.

    3. Zeb   3 years ago

      So preserving the narrative is all that matters on Twitter now, I guess. Actual information that people can use to assess their risk is no good.

  19. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   3 years ago

    Can you stop using the term voting rights to describe what the (D) legislation wants to do? It the codification of voter fraud

    1. Minadin   3 years ago

      Yeah, when you accept and then re-use their deceptive re-definitioning of previously well-defined terms, you're only furthering their agenda.

      Like every single time the media used the term 'bipartisan' the past several years.

      1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

        Like when Robbie backslid and said, "Of course there's thousands of hate crimes every year."

    2. CE   3 years ago

      Basically. Everyone already has the right to vote, except for non-citizens and those who are barred from voting due to criminal convictions, and it is not difficult to exercise that right.

      1. VinniUSMC   3 years ago

        But, those evil, dirty, nasty Republicans want to prevent people from voting by requiring ID. That's, like, impossible to get. Who the hell has an ID?! Certainly not anybody who drives, has a bank account, cashes a check, has a job, goes to school, etc etc. The requirements is too damn high.

        /s

  20. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Hugh Hewitt is moderating a Minnesota GOP gubernatorial debate and the first question he asked: did Biden legitimately win the 2020 election?

    Legitimately doing a lot of work there, I guess.

    1. DesigNate   3 years ago

      Just based on the rules being illegally changed in multiple states without approval of the legislatures, they’re not necessarily wrong.

    2. Overt   3 years ago

      I don't know what Hewitt was trying to do here- give candidates the opportunity to distance from or cozy up to the Trump wing of the party. But I can guarantee you, it was done to further the ends of the GOP Elite.

      There is no more partisan hack than Hugh Hewitt. Even Rush Limbaugh and Hannity- extreme partisans in their own right- are not such shameless shills as Hewitt. I used to listen to his AM show on my drive home back when I was still a republican. That mother fucker had the balls to tell you black was white one day and the next day tell you black was red the next. He did nothing but read the talking points of the GOP every day on his show, and give puff interviews to GOP congressmen.

  21. Salted Nuts   3 years ago

    I absolutely believe the progs are totally ginned up about voting rights - but in another twist of modern wordplay, the concern is that the right IS voting, not the right TO vote.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Their core belief is that anyone/everyone should vote, as long as they vote for the desired outcomes.

    2. VinniUSMC   3 years ago

      They are confused. What they meant to write was not "voting rights", but "vote right".

  22. sarcasmic   3 years ago

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10315867/Ben-Affleck-tells-Jimmy-Kimmel-claims-blamed-ex-alcoholism-context.html

    Ben Affleck is a selfish douche? No way!

    1. damikesc   3 years ago

      AS was pointed out, she drove him to his rehab several times after they broke up.

      1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

        Meaning what? That she's a loyal lady? She's an enabler? I'm not sure what your point is.

        1. Unicorn Abattoir   3 years ago

          Meaning he was to drunk to drive himself.

          1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

            Is that an argument against me saying he's a selfish douche?

            1. JesseAz   3 years ago

              No. It is a lack of self awareness.

              Admitted drunk

              Also admitted douchebag who burns steaks and wants to feed his ex horse meat cause she likes horses.

              1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

                No, no, no. He eats raw steaks, as he made abundantly clear to me. I burn my steak. 😉

                1. JesseAz   3 years ago

                  He said when he was a cook he would burn meat and choose the worst cuts if someone ordered it medium.

                2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                  Is the troll referencing what I said about working as a broiler cook?

                  No doubt he has rephrased my words in a dishonest manner so as to attempt to bait me into clarifying, which like Charlie Brown attempting to kick a football, only entertains the baiter.

                  Here's a great way to cook a steak that wasn't an option while I was working in restaurants. Get yourself a sous vide. Cook your steak in the water bath to the temperature you like. When you open the bag it will be kinda gross, but go ahead and dry it off. Then brown it fast on a hot grill or in a hot cast iron (with plenty of Montreal steak seasoning) to get a nice crust.

                  Now you've got a steak that's nice and browned on the outside, and cooked perfectly throughout.

                  You can thank me later.

                  1. JesseAz   3 years ago

                    Can you do anything except for lie?

                    sarcasmic
                    August.24.2021 at 8:49 pm
                    Flag Comment Mute User
                    Who are you talking to? The voices in your head? Brow beating? Reallh?

                    And yeah, if I was cooking broiler when you ordered yours MW, I'd find the fattiest, gristliest piece I could find and burn the shit out of it. Nothing personal, but if you want to ruin meat, you won't ruin good meat on my watch.

                    You even defended it in later threads.

                    1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

                      Oh, I see.

                    2. Make Democrats Extinct   3 years ago

                      He’s such a shrill, dishonest shitsack.

                  2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

                    Now I don't recall hearing about the sou vide. Now that would get the internal temperature just right without burning the outside.

                    Still, I would want it a 160 Degrees Fahrenheit and marinated and tenderized, as per my own learning on safe and tasty food preparation.

            2. Unicorn Abattoir   3 years ago

              No, it's supporting your argument.

              1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                It could mean she's an enabler. Instead of letting him sober up at the bottom she's being his taxi. He's helping him when he should be helping himself.

                Seriously though, dude needs a good ass beating. Cheating on Alias chick? With the nanny? That and Garner just seems like a great lady. I think he fucked up. And J-Lo never did anything for me. Just another choreographed, sculpted pawn.

        2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          Careful damikesc. Alcohol rehab is a sensitive topic for sarcasmic.

        3. R Mac   3 years ago

          Damn, sarc sure got awfully defensive awfully quick.

          1. Chumby   3 years ago

            Jeff making a move on Dee?

        4. damikesc   3 years ago

          Meaning he blamed her for his problems but she did more to try and fix his problems than he did.

          1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

            So he's a douche.

  23. sarcasmic   3 years ago

    'A self-fulfilling prophecy': The greatest challenge to American democracy is the constant stream of 'stolen election' rhetoric eroding our institutions, writes Georgia Secretary of State BRAD RAFFENSPERGER

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10317063/Tell-people-times-democracy-stolen-believe-BRAD-RAFFENSPERGER.html

    Pretty much.

    1. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

      Yeah but the 2016 Presidential election was actually stolen because of Russian hacking and Drumpf's collusion — as definitively established by the Mueller Report.

      And strong beautiful Black woman Stacey Abrams should be governor of Georgia but that election was illegitimate too.

      #SheWon

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Was it her turn?

    2. JesseAz   3 years ago

      Yeah. As long as you can bury your head in the sand about the court cases ruled illegal rule changes, thousands of double voting, nursing home voting surges, etc... guess you're right.

      But you're not ecstatic biden won or anything. You ignore corruption based on principles.

      1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        He's totally not a Democrat, Jesse. He swears it.

  24. sarcasmic   3 years ago

    Russian invasion could trigger World War 3, Ukraine warns: Minister says 'geopolitically, this is now a possible scenario - it will be much wider than Ukraine'
    Yuliia Laputina, the minister for veterans affairs, gave the warning on Thursday
    She said Ukraine was prepared to defend itself against a Russian invasion
    She added consequences of such an invasion would not be contained to Ukraine
    Most of Ukraine's 400,000 veterans are prepared to fight back, she said

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10316577/Russian-invasion-trigger-World-War-3-Ukraine-warns.html

    WWIII?

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Can’t be. Trump is not in office.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Meh. Still his fault, right?

      2. JesseAz   3 years ago

        He had 2 world wars already. NK and Iran. We are on WW5.

        1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          WW6. January 6 was WW5.

          1. JesseAz   3 years ago

            I thought that was just civil war 2.

            1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

              It can be both.
              Also it was the deadliest conflict ever. AOC was almost killed even though she was somewhere completely different. How's that for deadly?

            2. R Mac   3 years ago

              What’s worse than Watergate, chopped liver?

              1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

                Ackchyually, everybody's got it wrong. World War III was The Cold War, World War IV was "The War On Terror," Iran was World War V, North Korea was World War VI, Ukraine is World War VII, and at this point, there is a World War every time somebody says: "Boo!"

        2. Chumby   3 years ago

          Have those ended? Don’t recall Trump ever signing a peace tweety.

          1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

            They were nullified by the most free and fair election in human history.

          2. newshutz   3 years ago

            The tweety negotiations ended when there were no more mean tweets.

            Now there are no more tweets from the white house, only sours from old Walter.

  25. Enjoy Every Sandwich   3 years ago

    "Last week, President Joe Biden effectively put millions of American families on a no-fly list, one that has been growing for nearly two years," wrote Bethany Mandel in the Deseret News. "It's not explicit: Of course, most Americans can technically fly. But in reality, there are many families for whom it's become impossible, thanks to COVID-19 mandates surrounding air travel."

    Just add flying to the list of things that "nobody needs".

    1. damikesc   3 years ago

      Gee, guess we get to bail out the airlines AGAIN in the near future.

      1. Enjoy Every Sandwich   3 years ago

        And when that happens the Left will have the nerve to act surprised. "But how could this happen? Obviously market failure!"

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          You forgot "greedy airline CEOs".

          1. Enjoy Every Sandwich   3 years ago

            Yeah, they'll be done beating Big Meat by then.

            1. R Mac   3 years ago

              Nobody should ever be done beating Big Meat.

      2. Chumby   3 years ago

        Prices are cheap right now. Short notice round trip from Boston to Moscow (one stop in Paris) was just over a grand.

        1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

          Because who would want to go?

    2. CE   3 years ago

      Well, an argument could be made that nobody needs screaming toddlers on a flight...

      1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

        Or 23 kinds either.

  26. Sevo   3 years ago

    Another Peace Prize WINNER!
    "The Nobel Peace Prize that paved the way for war"
    [...]
    "New evidence shows that Ethiopia’s prime minister, Abiy Ahmed, had been planning a military campaign in the northern Tigray region for months before war erupted one year ago, setting off a cascade of destruction and ethnic violence that has engulfed Ethiopia, Africa’s second most populous country.
    Abiy, a Nobel Peace Prize laureate seen recently in fatigues commanding troops on the battlefront, insists that war was foisted upon him — that ethnic Tigrayan fighters fired the first shots in November 2020 when they attacked a federal military base in Tigray, slaughtering soldiers in their beds. That account has become an article of faith for Abiy and his supporters...."
    https://bdnews24.com/world/2021/12/16/the-nobel-peace-prize-that-paved-the-way-for-war

    Sadat, Obama and now this guy; change name to Nobel Warmongers"

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Mostly Peace Prize?

      1. R Mac   3 years ago

        A+

    2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      Obama deserved that Peace Prize because except for Libya and the CIA Color Revolutions and droning the living fuck out of everyone, he didn't start world wars by killing any Iranian terrorists.

      Sure his successor opened negotiations with North Korea, got peace between the Serbs and Kosovars, and peace deals between Israel and five former enemies, but he literally practically almost started WWIII because mumble, mumble Iranian general something, so he was prize ineligible.

    3. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

      Let's not forget Yassir Arafat, the father of air piracy, who looked so shocked, shocked when he seen the final fruits of his creation on 9/11/2001.

  27. Jerryskids   3 years ago

    "Voting rights". Sure, that's what we'll call it. You mean removing any restrictions at all on the ability to vote wherever you want as many times as you want, no ID required. Heck, you don't even have to prove you exist, the existence of your ballot is all that's required.

    I have a proposal to honor America, motherhood and apple pie by shooting leftists in the head, are you really going to say you're opposed to America, motherhood and apple pie? You bastard! Who could be against such a thing?

    1. Minadin   3 years ago

      Antifa and their supporters use this same logic.

    2. JimboJr   3 years ago

      Funny how everything they are for is a branded with essentially the opposite of what they do in practice.

      See also:

      Anti-racism teachings that are pro-segregation and race-essentialism

      Anti-fascism (antifa) where a group of thugs dressed in all black corner you on the street and scream at you (or beat you) until you raise a fist and repeat their message in solidarity. Also they light your business on fire.

      "Voter protections" that essentially guarantee fraud

      No coincidence that the communists and fascist in the past have used this exact playbook many times

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Alinsky approves.

      2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        "Also they light your business on fire."

        White kids breaking windows and burning down minority owned businesses. Where have I heard that before.

  28. Ken Shultz   3 years ago

    "It's not looking good for the Build Back Better (BBB) plan: Senate Democrats had hoped to approve President Joe Biden's $1.7 trillion spending package by Christmas, but Sen. Joe Manchin (D–W.Va.)—the lone holdout—is not yet on board.

    The $1.7 trillion number is bullshit. Stop parroting the Biden administration. It makes you look hopelessly gullible. Do you genuinely believe that Build Back Better will only fund these socialist entitlement programs for one two, or three years--even as the bill increases taxes to fund the programs for ten years? And why pretend the costs will only be for ten years--is there some good reason to believe that these entitlement programs will ever be defunded once they're been created? When was the last time Congress cut funding for a socialist entitlement program once it was established?

    Meanwhile, the CBO is saying that the costs will be $2.4 trillion--and that's after $2.2 trillion in "offsets". Those offsets are taxes! The government may see taxes as revenue, but why should libertarian and capitalist taxpayers see taxes as anything other than an expense? $2.4 trillion in spending + $2.2 trillion in taxes means the Build Back Better bill will cost $4.6 trillion over ten years--and there is no good reason to think those entitlement programs will end after ten years--just like the income tax, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security aren't about to be cut aren't about to be cut anytime soon.

    https://www.crfb.org/blogs/whats-houses-build-back-better-act

    There's this thing called critical thinking, and libertarian capitalist journalists are supposed to be good at it--rather than parrot the Biden administration, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, the New York Times, and the Washington Post. You can choose not to be a propaganda victim by using your critical thinking skills and glancing at the facts. On the other hand, If you're purposely pushing the Biden administration's PR on the costs of this program, why not join a campaign and get paid for it? You might be really good at that--and it doesn't require much in the way of critical thinking skills at all.

    1. Bill Godshall   3 years ago

      Seems like Biden, Pelosi and Schumer were foolishly relying upon CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, NYT, WaPo and other left wing media propagandists (and their left wing Democrat coconspirators) to convince a Senator from West Virginia (that voted heavily for Trump) to change his position on a dozen key policies this past year and endorse Biden's Bullshit Bill.

      Despite Manchin voicing his opposition dozens of times, the left wing socialists foolishly believed he would simply cave in because he's a Democrat.

      It's time Manchin started to talk to McConnell about which Senate Committee he'd like to chair when he switches parties and gives the GOP control of the Senate.

      1. Ken Shultz   3 years ago

        They were trying to bully him, and he didn't budge--because the people of West Virginia didn't budge. He's simply following the people of West Virginia, which doesn't really require any principles or a backbone. All it requires is a desire to get reelected. Biden, AOC, Schumer, and the news media can engage in all the intimidation they want. The fact is that Manchin fears the 70% of West Virginia voters who voted for Trump in 2020 more than anything else--and if he does what the progressives and the media wants, it will be political suicide.

        We should give the credit to the Trump voters of West Virginia if Build Back Better fails--they deserve almost the credit. Whatever credit Manchin deserves, it's just for representing his Trump voting constituents. And giving a politician credit for representing his constituents rather than Biden, the Congressional Progressive Caucus, and the media is like giving a fireman credit for not being an arsonist. They're not supposed to be arsonists, and Manchin is supposed to represent the people of west Virginia.

      2. Bill Godshall   3 years ago

        While left wing media propagandists cite several national surveys finding public support for BBB (even though none of the respondents have read any of the bill's 4,000+ pages), it would be helpful to know what percentage of WV voters support/oppose Biden's Bullshit Bill.

        I strongly suspect that most West Virginians oppose BBB (especially the 70% who voted for Trump, and tens of thousands who work in the coal, oil and natural gas industries), and that Joe Manchin's approval rating will significantly increase in WV if/when/after he kills the BBB and especially if he switches parties to the GOP.

        1. Bill Godshall   3 years ago

          Also note that just 46% of West Virginians have been fully vaccinated for covid, the lowest in the nation. And most of those nonvaccinated folks in WV (including many Democrats) are not pleased that woke left wing Democrats continue advocating/imposing vaccine and/or mask mandates, and shaming/persecuting unvaccinated people.

          As one who lives in nearby Pittsburgh,

          1. Bill Godshall   3 years ago

            it is clear that most West Virginians (including many Democrats) disdain Biden and left wing woke Democrat elites.

            This region of the country is vastly different than the big city metro areas, but the big city elites just don't understand or care.

            1. Ken Shultz   3 years ago

              Progressives genuinely believe that inflicting their elite opinions on the unwilling is the legitimate and righteous purpose of government, and because they understand doing that as being the legitimate job of a politician, they don't understand why Manchin refuses to do his job, the big jackass!

              It's not that that progressives don't understand how average people in flyover country feel. It's that they think their progressive job is to inflict their will on such people. After all, fly over country is predominantly white, which means they're racist. Flyover country is more Christian, so they're homophobic. They're against open immigration so they're xenophobic. And the people in flyover country won't sacrifice their standard of living for climate change--so they're stupid.

              Why should the elitists care what homophobic, xenophobic, racist, and stupid Americans think about anything--what's the matter with you, Mr. Manchin? Just do your job!

              That's how the progressives see it.

              1. HorseConch   3 years ago

                Most of those polls are of no value. People really don't want to spend $5T dollars to give a little free child care, some free elder care, an unearned child tax credit, and a SALT deduction. Individual pieces may be popular, but everything is popular if you don't look at the reality of how its actually done. Free corvettes would be hugely popular, raising everyone's taxes to the point of covering the cost, not so much.

                1. VinniUSMC   3 years ago

                  But, a free Corvette for me at the cost of increasing your taxes, I could totally get on board with that.

        2. Cronut   3 years ago

          Manchin, unlike camera whores like AOC et al, is smart enough to know that national polls don't matter. WV polls are what matter for him. If BBB polls crappy in WV, it's not going to pass. He gives zero fucs what socialists in California think of him, because they don't put him in office.

          Yet. Until they pass their voter fraud bill and anyone can vote wherever they want.

          1. Ken Shultz   3 years ago

            It's astounding that more moderate Democrats aren't upstaging the progressives this way.

            The Congressional Progressive Caucus has 94 out of the 222 Democrat seats in the house, and they have only one Senator--Bernie Sanders. Even if the moderate Democrats lose 50 seats in the midterms, they'll still outnumber the progressives in the House.

            Why don't they stand up to the progressives?

            I think part of it is intimidation. They don't want to be subjected to the kinds of strong arm tactics that the progressives have used against Sinema and others. Part of it is that the progressive may dominate the DNC, the media, and the Democrats' big donors. Part of it may be that they don't want to be attacked on social media and doxxed, etc. by activists. Part of it may be a lack of organization among moderates. The Congressional Progressive Caucus is a well oiled machine.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Progressive_Caucus

            If they elect Pramila Jayapal to be the minority leader after Nancy leaves (after the 2022 midterms), the Democrats will just get it worse and worse. The Progressive Congressional Caucus treats moderate Democrats the way Napoleon used to treat his infantry. Just march straight towards the enemy lines while they slaughter you, and once they run out of ammunition, I'll send in my cavalry. Your sacrifice will not be forgotten!

            The progressives are a minority in their own party. So were the Bolsheviks! They were a minority, far left faction of the Social Democrats.

            1. Cronut   3 years ago

              Manchin and Sinema are pretty much bullet-proof WRT the progressive smear machine. Manchin will hold his seat without DNC money as long as he holds the line on BBB. Same with Sinema. Neither one is in danger of losing their seat to a progressive challenge. I'm not sure other moderates are quite as safe. And I have zero sympathy for them. They let the progressives off the leash to #resist Trump, and now they're stuck with the results.

              I agree with you, the progressives are the absolute worst people in American politics today. The democrat party gave them power, so when they lose in 2022, it's their own fault.

              1. JasonAZ   3 years ago

                Sinema is NOT a moderate. She plays one to stay elected in AZ. The same way that McCain pretended to be conservative while being a Progressive war-monger.

                1. Ken Shultz   3 years ago

                  Sinema isn't in the Congressional Progressive Caucus--and those are the real radicals, the Squad, Bernie Sanders, etc.

                2. Cronut   3 years ago

                  As long as she plays one long enough to tank that bullshit BBB monstrosity...

      3. Chumby   3 years ago

        The DNC should threaten sending Randi Weingarten to WV to campaign on his behalf he does not cave in.

        1. HorseConch   3 years ago

          If they are serious about passing it, they will threaten to have her jump out of a cake naked.

          1. Chumby   3 years ago

            She would probably eat her way out of it.

    2. Sevo   3 years ago

      "The $1.7 trillion number is bullshit. Stop parroting the Biden administration. It makes you look hopelessly gullible..."

      That's not just appearance.

    3. CE   3 years ago

      At least they're not calling it a 500 billion spending bill, like Politico does, since some of the spending was already in the long term spending forecast.

      But the amount referred to should be the amount the bill will authorize, even if additional spending will likely follow. Congress doesn't have to authorize that additional spending, and can vote against it if that is what voters want.

  29. Sevo   3 years ago

    "Amid drought, California advances big new reservoir project"
    [...]
    "SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Amid a severe drought, California regulators on Wednesday advanced what could be the state’s first major new water storage project in years despite warnings it would hasten the extinction of an endangered salmon species while disrupting the cultural traditions of some native tribes..."
    https://apnews.com/article/business-environment-and-nature-california-droughts-environment-9b43b9d3cf979e1afab8aa59e15a3913

    The population has more than doubled since 1975 (the last major drought), and the state has provided exactly ZERO additional water storage capacity in that time. Yes there is a drought, but water shortages are strictly a product of government failure.
    And now we might do something unless the 3-spotted salmon (as opposed to the two-spotted or four-spotted races) might be harmed or the three people who identify as members of some tribe lose their pebble-tossing fields.

    1. Salted Nuts   3 years ago

      Not to mention previous implementations of fish ladders, alvrit

      1. Salted Nuts   3 years ago

        Fucking Reason boards...

        *albeit with mixed results. But there's a new opportunity to improve, yeah?

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Hey, those are SACRED pebble tossing fields. And Democrats do love themselves some indigenous creationism--just not that hokey, anti-Science (TM) biblical nonsense.

    3. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   3 years ago

      That helps, so would not dumping half of the resivoir water back into the pacific

    4. CE   3 years ago

      California is more likely to eliminate reservoirs than to build new ones.

      1. Chumby   3 years ago

        Cali will blame folks on the east coast that refuse to install low flow fixtures.

        1. soldiermedic76   3 years ago

          Cali will demand that Idaho divert the Snake, Salmon and Clearwater river for their usage.

          1. soldiermedic76   3 years ago

            That's what they tried in the 1980s.

        2. Make Democrats Extinct   3 years ago

          When I think of low flows, I think of that episode of ‘King of the Hill’ where Arlen mandates low flow toilets that are worthless and don’t work.

  30. Bill Godshall   3 years ago

    "According to The New York Times::

    Soave relies upon repeating lies by the NY Times to cover up the disastrous mistakes and lies by Yellen, Powell, Biden, Pelosi and Schumer.

    Real libertarians expose the lies and duplicity of the NY Times, instead of repeating their claims as factual.

    1. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   3 years ago

      Remember according to the nyt no rational person would conciders the nyt to be a source of unformation

  31. Sevo   3 years ago

    SF city gov't is certain there are entirely too many domestic workers, takes immediate action to reduce their numbers!

    "San Francisco to ensure domestic workers get paid sick time"
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careersandeducation/san-francisco-to-ensure-domestic-workers-get-paid-sick-time/ar-AARQUul?ocid=uxbndlbing&pfr=1

  32. Jerryskids   3 years ago

    "An aircraft is the safest place you can be. It's true of all of our aircraft—they all have the same HEPA filters and air flow."

    If you're on a two-hour flight, at the end of that flight you're sitting in a cabin full of farts. If the air filtration system in a plane can filter out several thousand cubic feet of farts, it's a pretty damn good air filtration system.

    1. Salted Nuts   3 years ago

      It is not <5micrometer good.

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        Neither are old tee shirts across your face.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Thanks. Now the feds will mandate masks on our bung holes.

      1. Chumby   3 years ago

        Biden already leading the way.

        1. MK Ultra   3 years ago

          Bringing up the rear.

          1. newshutz   3 years ago

            Doing his best Great Cornholio impersonation.

  33. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

    "If it was entirely up to some Democrats, airplane passengers would have to be masked and vaccinated."

    If it was up to Democrats, most personal travel would be extremely limited (for those citizens allowed out of their homes). Which would make their bans on aircraft less of a problem.

    1. R Mac   3 years ago

      If you’re not important enough to fly private, why do you even need to fly?

  34. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

    "Mr. Powell's public shift to sounding more concerned about inflation came shortly after President Biden announced on Nov. 22 that he would appoint him to a second term as chair, saying he believed Mr. Powell would focus on both the need to control inflation and fostering a strong economy that creates jobs and pushes wages higher."

    So, no clue in the Biden Administration about the causal links of arbitrarily higher wages and inflation?

  35. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

    'San Francisco Mayor London Breed (D) announced a crackdown on crime. "What I'm proposing today and what I will be proposing in the future will make a lot of people uncomfortable and I don't care," she said.'

    "I don't care" seems to be a Breed theme.

  36. Ken Shultz   3 years ago

    "Republicans will filibuster any attempt to approve voting rights legislation, however, which means that the Senate would also have to okay a filibuster exception for whatever bill emerges.

    The Senate would have to okay a filibuster--WTF is that supposed to mean?!

    What we're really talking about here is two things:

    1) The Senate parliamentarian would need to rule that the voting rights legislation was a budget matter--in order for it to avoid the filibuster and be passed by a simple majority through budget reconciliation.

    So far, the Senate parliamentarian has been a straight shooter on this and other issues--she shot down letting the Democrats push immigration reform through with budget reconciliation earlier this year. It is extremely unlikely that she will bless the Democrats using budget reconciliation to pass election reform with a simple majority--sans filibuster.

    2) The Senate could nuke the filibuster.

    This has always been a real possibility, but if we're talking about them doing this after Christmas--in the 2022 election year--they moderate (red and purple district/swing state) Democrats in both the House and the Senate will be even more reluctant to do that for fear of a backlash in the midterms--and they were already reluctant to do that in 2021.

    As a rule of thumb, anything the moderate Democrats were reluctant to do in 2021, they'll be even more reluctant to do in 2022.

    1. MK Ultra   3 years ago

      It's amazing how many people don't understand the point in your final Graf. I've seen quite a lot of "It's just POSTPONED until January" posts.

  37. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

    "Twitter said it would punish users who made the (truthful) claim that vaccinated individuals can spread COVID-19."

    Baghdad Bob approves.

    1. Enjoy Every Sandwich   3 years ago

      I'm beginning to think that even Baghdad Bob would be too embarrassed to embrace the bullshit these days.

    2. Chumby   3 years ago

      Mother of all Tweets.

  38. Marshal   3 years ago

    San Francisco Mayor London Breed (D) announced a crackdown on crime. "What I'm proposing today and what I will be proposing in the future will make a lot of people uncomfortable and I don't care," she said.

    I bet anything that even though London now agrees with what normals believed all along she still believes they are racist for doing so. This is how they roll.

  39. Sevo   3 years ago

    When you lose the SF Chron...

    "Are California’s strict COVID mandates working?"
    [...]
    "Some recent headlines have pointed out that California’s daily case rates are now higher than those of Florida and Texas, Republican-led states that have frequently blocked pandemic control measures such as ..."
    https://www.sfchronicle.com/search/?action=search&searchindex=solr&query=have+california%27s+strict+mandates+really+paid+off%3F&cmpid=gsa-sfgate-static

    1. ElvisIsReal   3 years ago

      They're just now getting around to looking at the data that's been clear for 16 months at least.

      1. Sevo   3 years ago

        It's more than interesting that the Chron front-paged that article after beating the 'mask-up' drum for as long as they have.

  40. Marshal   3 years ago

    I have it on good authority (Lebron James) that not taking money from other people and giving it to Dem voters is just like slavery.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      What about Chinese money?

    2. JasonAZ   3 years ago

      Chairman James:

      Basketball IQ - high
      Everything else - negative number

      1. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   3 years ago

        Ohhh yeah it takes genius level basketball iq to determine that if you get 4 of the top 10 players on the same team your odds of winning go up

        1. MK Ultra   3 years ago

          He has an agent to explain complex mathematics and statistics to him. With pop-up photos.

    3. Chumby   3 years ago

      He is a smart man and knows who butters his bread.

  41. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

    "I concur," said Doug Parker, CEO of American Airlines. "An aircraft is the safest place you can be. It's true of all of our aircraft—they all have the same HEPA filters and air flow."

    I buy that masks are worthless, but I don't buy that an aircraft is the safest place to be. Even before the COVID-19 pandemic, airplanes had a reputation as a great place for catching a cold or worse.

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Cite?

    2. JesseAz   3 years ago

      So youre ignorant of circulated air? And you've defended mask policies for 21 months.

    3. R Mac   3 years ago

      Pretty sure it’s the airports, not airplanes.

    4. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

      Cite?

    5. Frosty   3 years ago

      Just to be clear, while beating a dead iguana, Do you have a cite for that claim?

  42. Ken Shultz   3 years ago

    To follow up on a post from yesterday, in addition to all of us seeing the news media and progressive trolls like Shrike as being willfully obtuse on inflation, the markets, apparently, have seconded that notion.

    Under normal circumstances, rising interest rates are not associated with bull markets. As interest rates increase, investors' appetite for stocks generally diminishes. However, I've seen it happen numerous times, in my life, that the market will rally when the Fed announces that it plans to increase interest rates. Yesterday was one of those odd days--the stock market rallied because the Fed announced that they're tapering off their bond buying earlier than expected and they announced that they plan to raise interest rates at least three times as things stand at the moment.

    "Futures for the S&P 500 rose 0.8% Thursday, a day after the broad stocks gauge closed at its second-highest level on record. Contracts for the Dow Jones Industrial Average added 0.7% and Nasdaq-100 futures climbed 0.8%, pointing to a strong start to the session for technology stocks . . . .

    The U.K.’s blue-chip FTSE 100 added 1% after the Bank of England nudged up its benchmark rate to 0.25% from 0.1%. The raise was the first by a major central bank since the pandemic began and sent the pound 0.7% higher to trade at $1.3355.

    The Bank of England said it was necessary to raise rates to bring inflation back to its 2% target. The Fed completed its own pivot Wednesday, approving plans to end a program of asset purchases by March and penciling in three rate rises in 2022.

    ----WSJ, December 16, 2021

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/global-stock-markets-dow-update-12-16-2021-11639643633?

    Basically, the markets think Shrike is an idiot [inflation is a serious problem for the economy]. Investors are responding positively to the Fed's announcement that it plans to taper off its bond buying and raise interest rates in order to tackle the problem of inflation.

    1. Bill Godshall   3 years ago

      The actual rate of inflation is far greater than the 7% or 8% claimed by the Biden administration.

      Gasoline and heating bills have increased by 50% since last year, while the price of homes, cars and groceries have increased by 25%.

      1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

        Now's the time to take on debt, before interest rates go up and inflation really starts to affect the value of the dollar. Those bucks you pay your loan off with will be worth a lot less than the dollars you borrowed.

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          This statement says why you think a half million dollar air bnb is so amazing.

          1. Make Democrats Extinct   3 years ago

            With cool dudes!

      2. Chumby   3 years ago

        As folks in the northeast and midwest start seeing their heating bills, there is going to be anger.

        1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

          With the Northeast, it is usually heating oil they use. Not sure how many steps of production are between crude oil and heating oil, but it's got to involve a lot of people in short supply and supply chains in disruption.

          "Build Back Better" my ass.

          1. Chumby   3 years ago

            Those of us in the sticks heat with wood. So heating costs maybe went up $15 over last winter. (About 3 gallons of fuel per cord of firewood and about a buck more a gallon for gas and diesel).

            Was looking at upgrading one of the stoves. The Jotul price is about 30% more this year versus last year. The workers at their facilities must dip a lot.

            1. Ken Shultz   3 years ago

              Heating with wood. That's the life.

              I was looking at a place in Kentucky online. It was one of the hewn log and mortar places that was built before the Civil War. It had two huge stone fireplaces, one in the great room and one in the kitchen, which originally used for cooking, I'm sure. It was so beautiful.

              I've split enough wood in my life, and I know it's a lot of work. Still, those pioneers in the before the 1850s were building themselves homes that yuppies still drool over today. I should have married a girl from Kentucky.

              1. Chumby   3 years ago

                Have felling axes, limbing axes, crosscut bucking saws and splitting mauls. But Husqvarna makes chainsaws and Speeco makes pneumatic splitters to save time. It is still work though more time in the forest and extra exercise are good things.

                There is nothing like a wood fire. The warmth is visceral. The flames licking up the logs. The crackling sounds. The aroma.

                Fireplaces are inefficient. Converting them to a wood stove is the way to go.

              2. HorseConch   3 years ago

                A log splitter isn't that expensive. Hell, you can buy a winter's worth of wood for a few hundred bucks if you don't want to mess with cutting it.

            2. Cronut   3 years ago

              I've been thinking about putting in a wood stove. I have cast iron steam radiators in my current house, and they're better than any forced air system I've ever had. When the steam kicks on, they get toasty. And I love the little hissing sound the air valves make. The kids love putting their pjs on the radiators before bed so they have nice warm pajamas at night. But I love a wood stove, and it'll help cut down the oil use. For a little more than the cost of a winter's worth of heating oil, I can put in a second hand stove myself, and it also eliminates needing to run a generator for the boiler when the power goes out.

              As far as home heating, there really is nothing like wood, although steam is a close second.

          2. Cronut   3 years ago

            Heating oil is pretty close to diesel gas. In my area, it's between $2.72/gallon and $3/gallon. The only reason it's cheaper than diesel gas is there aren't any federal or state taxes on it where I live. But for a 275 gallon tank, it's costs a bundle to fill up. Thank God it hasn't been that cold yet.

    2. CE   3 years ago

      More likely the market moves are a sigh of relief that the Fed is still going to wait another 4 months (to complete tapering) before raising interest rates by 0.75 percentage points, when an immediate increase of 5 percentage points or so would be the more prudent response to inflation running at 7 percent.

      1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

        Your and Ken’s differing interpretations illustrate a basic point. If anyone tells you a market movement “means” this or that, it is largely projection. “The market” is made up of numerous actors, all with different reasons for buying and selling — that’s the very point of the market.

        1. R Mac   3 years ago

          Caw caw!

        2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          Oh look, Mike's lying about what Ken said again.

      2. Ken Shultz   3 years ago

        The market doesn't like surprises, and the Fed wasn't giving them any. This statement of their intentions, yesterday, was exactly what they said it would be--and what the market expected given the inflation data. The last thing the Fed wants to do is jolt the market by doing something unexpected. This market movement might have been a sign of relief that the Fed was following through on its intention to end the bond buying sooner so they can raise rates. The market didn't want any sudden jolts. They can't (or shouldn't) raise rates until they stop the bond buying, and they need to stop the bond buying gradually so as not to upset the market and inflict huge losses on traders.

        Off the top of my head, the Fed is currently buying $150 billion in U.S. bonds a month. They're accelerating their plan to cut that buying--and I think they're cutting it gradually (by $35 billion a month), which will get them out of bond market entirely in March. So, right now, the market is expecting them to start raising the discount rate at their scheduled meeting in March. There are still open questions about how big that rise will be.

        The rule of thumb used to have them using the market for U.S. treasuries as a sign of how big those cuts or rises should be, but they can't really rely on that with their thumb on the scale of the market for bonds. There's plenty of time between now and March, and as more data comes in, as they take their thumb off the scale, we'll watch inflation data to see if it's getting better or worse. We're in a different world, too, if the BBB bill passes. But this is the plan, and the market like that plan for the moment. It wasn't a surprise or a mystery. They've been broadcasting these intentions (and their concerns about inflation more than unemployment) for more than a month.

        There always is a margin between when something is supposed to happen and when it happens. You see this all the time on arbitrage plays when two companies announce a merger. The standard arbitrage play is that you go long on the company that's being acquired, and you short the company that's doing the acquiring. After the merger, their stock will be one stock with one price. Until the merger actually happens, however, that the merger doesn't go through--so they don't trade at the same price until the merger actually happens. Right up until the day the merger is finally executed, you can capture that margin between them with an arbitrage play.

        I think that's like what you're talking about may have happened here. Everyone knew what the Fed was probably going to say about inflation and their actions on it yesterday, and it came in the way everyone expected. However, until they actually said it, there was still some doubt--and the rally we saw was about investors become true believers when it actually happened as expected. There's always a chance it won't pan out the way people expect, and the market rallied an announcement that they were raising rates in the future because reality fulfilled their expectations.

        Stocks certainly didn't really because the Fed said they weren't concerned about inflation. At most, they rallied despite the Fed saying they would raise interest rates--rather than fell because the Fed is raising rates. I maintain that inflation is a serious concern for investors in all sorts of ways. When people are spending more on food, energy, and other necessities, they have less to spend on airline tickets, Christmas gifts, new cars, and electronics. Stocks that do well in an inflationary environment and stocks that do poorly in that environment are not the same stocks.

        1. Ken Shultz   3 years ago

          "The standard arbitrage play is that you go long on the company that's being acquired, and you short the company that's doing the acquiring. After the merger, their stock will be one stock with one price. Until the merger actually happens, however, [there is still a risk] that the merger doesn't go through--so they don't trade at the same price until the merger actually happens.

          ----Ken Shultz

          Fixed!

          There was still a chance that the Fed wouldn't say what the market expected it to say--right up until the moment the Fed said it. Once the Fed said it, the doubt was eliminated, and the market went up the rest of the way.

          Still, it didn't go down because the Fed confirmed they expect to raise rates. It went up.

  43. Unicorn Abattoir   3 years ago

    "The president and Sen. Manchin are having many discussions, and we're waiting to see the outcome of those," Schumer told reporters on Wednesday.

    They're not having many discussions, they're having the same discussion many times. It starts with Biden asking Manchin "Who are you?"

  44. Dillinger   3 years ago

    >>The president and Sen. Manchin are having many discussions

    "Joe do you have any toes in Asia?"

  45. Sevo   3 years ago

    Hetch Hetchy reservoir supplies potable water to SF and a large percentage of the peninsula, say 2 million people. Several people really like rock-climbing around the reservoir and are proposing emptying it.
    And the SF Chron gives them free space to promote the narcissistic assholes:

    "Can a rock climber help ‘restore’ Yosemite’s Hetch Hetchy Valley?"
    [...]
    "Rivera wants to open more eyes to Hetch Hetchy’s potential as a recreation destination. To that end, he and Serafino, a 41-year-old climber and San Francisco native, recently joined the board of directors at Restore Hetch Hetchy, a Berkeley nonprofit with a singular mission: to persuade the powers that be to drain the valley and reopen it to visitors. Under the scenario they propose, thirsty San Franciscans wouldn’t notice a change, as the reservoir’s water (up to 117 billion gallons at capacity) would be relocated to holding facilities downstream. There’s no cost estimate for such an idea..."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/can-a-rock-climber-help-e2-80-98restore-e2-80-99-yosemite-e2-80-99s-hetch-hetchy-valley/ar-AARRiBb?ocid=uxbndlbing

    He'll pay for it, right?

    1. CE   3 years ago

      As I said above, California is more likely to remove reservoirs than to add new ones.

      1. JasonAZ   3 years ago

        Agreed. Idiots galore in CA...

        1. HorseConch   3 years ago

          They deserve it. There are a whole bunch of states that will gladly accept, and offer a way better quality of life, than CA.

  46. Brian   3 years ago

    San Francisco is granted an exemption from California’s new mask mandate.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/12/15/1064608517/san-francisco-mask-mandate-california

    You know centrally planned health mandate mask rules are totally the best way for smart people to do society when your own city on the hill files for and gets a special exemption from them, because reasons.

    If progressives can’t even act like they buy their own bullshit, why should anyone else?

    1. Ali Akbar Alexander   3 years ago

      The only exception I would take to your comment here is your characterization of San Francisco as a “city on the hill.” From what I’ve been told by other gay, Black conservatives San Francisco is a post-acocalyptic wasteland literally covered from head-to-toe in human shit. I used to live there myself a long long long time ago in 2014, where I ate great food, partied all night, and made lots of money, but— apparently— from what I’m hearing from Infowars.com it has gone decidedly down-fucking-hill. What can you expect from a place run by poor homeless drug addicts like Gavin Newsom. I guess we know now.

  47. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

    Hugh Hewitt is moderating a Minnesota GOP gubernatorial debate and the first question he asked: did Biden legitimately win the 2020 election?

    Not one of the five candidates came anywhere close to saying yes.

    The only reasonable answer here is "maybe, maybe not"

    No one can be certain of it and anyone who claims to be is playing political games rather than thinking through the facts.

    1. Dillinger   3 years ago

      Hugh Hewitt, faithfully toeing the Haughty Party (H) line.

      1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

        More like Spew Spewitt, amirite?

        1. Dillinger   3 years ago

          I kinda liked him until I didn't

  48. Mickey Rat   3 years ago

    "With Build Back Better in Doubt, Biden and Democrats Pivot Toward Undermining Election Integrity"

    Fixed it.

  49. Ali Akbar Alexander   3 years ago

    Melania is selling an NFT with an image of her "cobalt blue eyes" to benefit children "aging out of the foster care system", with a recorded message where Melania says, "I hope my eyes will help kids everywhere to meet questionably rich elderly men and monetize their marriages"

    I’m sure that I join other gay, Black conservatives in questioning their sexuality when thinking about Melania’s cobalt eyes. . I’ve never jerked off before thinking about an actual women, but I figure you guys on this comment board would know something about this. How does it actually work when thinking about an icky vagina— which as a gay man I find distinctly unpleasant. Any advice on getting past the smell?

    1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

      Maybe an MFM DVP threesome with a hunk will make things easier.

  50. Ali Akbar Alexander   3 years ago

    Get Out! Berlin expels Russian diplomats after court rules Moscow ordered dissident’s murder | Germany | The Guardian

    Uggg… this is disgusting and blatant Russophobia— probably coming from the Biden administration’s support of the totally discredited Mueller investigation. Exactly like when Democrats like Nancy Pelosi put Black Americans on the back of the bus. As a Black man, I’m thoroughly done with the DemocRAT party and it’s noxious collection of people on plantations like Stacey Abrams in Georgia. I mean Done. D…O…N…E.

    1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

      Fret not. Russia does bad all by itself with no one's help.

    2. R Mac   3 years ago

      C- Sometimes less is more.

    3. Utkonos   3 years ago

      You know who else expelled people from Berlin?

      1. newshutz   3 years ago

        The Teutonic Knights?

    4. newshutz   3 years ago

      I am thinking OBL has some competition.

  51. raspberrydinners   3 years ago

    "Broader filibuster reform is an even bigger non-starter, since centrist Democrats are smart enough to realize that this would be wielded against them by the GOP majority come 2022."

    This should read as "they're dumb as shit" because the Republicans will use whatever to their advantage no matter what the Dems do or don't do. You need no further evidence than stalling on Garland in 2016 vs. ramrodding Barrett through right before the 2020 election.

    They're hypocrites without any standards. If Democrats are playing nice because they think suddenly the Republicans will then they're even bigger idiots than I once thought.

    1. Brian   3 years ago

      If democrats have convinced you that republicans are the ones without any standards, but they obviously do (jettisoned only when forced to by republicans, of course), then your political loyalty is cheap.

      1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

        And vice versa, right?

        1. Brian   3 years ago

          Eh, to a certain degree.

          I've thought about this a lot. We pretend that government is supposed to be about planning society for optimality, or coming up with the best rules for people to live by. In reality, government is a system with incentives, and politicians have made a career choice out of those incentives. That means saying and doing things to get ahead, even when they're not in the interest of most people.

          I'm pretty sure Elizabeth Warren knows that the stuff she says on economics is completely wrong, but she says it anyway, because she knows that her constituents want someone who talks like Hugo Chavez to a certain degree. I mean, blaming something as constant as "greed" on inflation: that's so stupid. We have a spike in inflation, and no clear indication that humans suddenly got more greedy. But she knows that, to a lot of her followers, "Oh yes my life is more difficult than it is because corporations seek profit" is a false narrative that makes sense, and they'll reward her for it. That's a bug, not a feature, but, hey, democracy.

          Republicans do this, too, of course, but at least they're not flirting with economic basket case policies when they do it. If anything, I think republicans adhere too strongly to bad policies that are unpopular out of principle which cost them elections. The most populist I ever saw them was with Trump, and then Trump was an outsider raised up exactly because he was different from the other republicans.

          1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

            But now Trump is the Republican Party.

            The old party doesn’t exist anymore. Any Republican who stands up to Trump is ostracized and the definition of “RINO”has changed to “a Republican who doesn’t line up behind Trump.”

            1. JesseAz   3 years ago

              Whose definition?

            2. Brian   3 years ago

              And I think that's mostly a rejection by republican voters of their own establishment than a statement about how republican politicians typically act.

              1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

                The most frightening and disgusting part of it is the lack of the courage to say what they really think on the part of almost all Republican Congress members.

                1. Brian   3 years ago

                  That’s not the most scary part of this.

                  The most scary part of this is the fact that politicians use systemic violence at a massive scale to force the entire country into more and more of a central plan, which reduces diversity and robustness to catastrophic failure.

                  Or, to put it concretely: enough politicians like Elizabeth Warren will ruin the economy for everyone for at least a few generations, to win the votes of stupid people who don’t know any better.

                  1. Brian   3 years ago

                    I was reminded of this with dog breeding. Full bred dogs have all sorts of health problems because of a lack of genetic diversity. They get cancer, they rack of huge medical bills, they die.

                    Why does this happen? Because breeders have a certain set of characteristics the optimize for the breed: specific size, height, weight, coat color, thickness, personality, etc. The “best” dogs sire so many of the same pups that the genetic diversity plummets.

                    “But that’s the point!” The dog breeders say. “We have breeds precisely to *control* how all of these dogs look and act!” Yes, and in doing so, you’re creating dogs that are ultimately less healthy and strong.

                    I can see why dog breeders are ok with it: they love the breed more than the individual dogs or their quality of life.

                    However, I debate how ethical that is to do to dogs, and I especially don’t want people treated that way. Hence, I resent politicians like Elizabeth Warren.

            3. ElvisIsReal   3 years ago

              But now Trump is the Republican Party.
              ----------
              And most of us see that as a huge improvement. Or are you pining for the halcyon days of the 2000-2016 GOP?

              1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

                Being taken over by a childish, incompetent, boorish grifter is an improvement. Got it.

                1. mad.casual   3 years ago

                  Yup. Both sides.

                2. Cronut   3 years ago

                  At least your childish, incompetent, boorish grifters are all diverse womyns who wear hijabs and red lipstick.

                3. ElvisIsReal   3 years ago

                  Over the USA PATRIOT-passing GOP of 2001? Over the Iraq-invading GOP of 2003? Over the Paul Ryan/Mitt Romney years of squishy bullshitters?

                  You're fucking right it is.

                  1. mad.casual   3 years ago

                    Over the USA PATRIOT-passing GOP of 2001? Over the Iraq-invading GOP of 2003?

                    And, lest we forget how bowf sidez is actually *supposed* to indict non-libertarians, near-unanimously and overhwhelmingly passed through an R/D split Senate.

                    It's not like the GOP were the only one's being boorish and incompetent in handing power to boorish, incompetent, childish leaders.

    2. JimboJr   3 years ago

      just like when the R's went nuclear on the filibuster for approving judges right?

      oh wait...

    3. R Mac   3 years ago

      Advice and Consent. So suck it.

  52. Eeyore   3 years ago

    There is no , and more... in this articles subtitle.

  53. Ali Akbar Alexander   3 years ago

    America is not going to
    Have a civil war https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/01/america-civil-war-prophecies/620850/

    Uggg… prophecies that I’m not going to be able to set up a fascist concentration camp in order to choose which liberal goes to the shower and which liberal goes to a work camp is exactly the reason why I don’t read the Atlantic any more and now listen to STEVE BANNON’S podcast, which is geared to an audience of Black, gay conservatives like me. Thank God for that guy!

    1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

      Say what? This is a very clever trolling. You and OBL should share notes.

      1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

        But please don't break character like OBL. It destroys the whole illusion.

      2. mad.casual   3 years ago

        Yes. Very real clever trolling. Totally not like sarcasmic or another sock is trying to steal OBL's schtick, missing the point, and doing a shitty job of it. The opposite in fact!

        1. HorseConch   3 years ago

          Sarc may be the worst internet troll I've ever encountered. He occasionally has some good input when not trolling, but he's as bad as you'll ever find at the trolling part.

  54. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    The CEOs of American Airlines and Southwest Airlines have both indicated that they believe masking on airplanes is largely pointless.

    Well, masking almost anywhere except in the OR is pretty much pointless, at least as long as we're talking about *clears throat* "laboratory-confirmed influenza (covid)" and a standard cloth surgical mask.

    1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

      "*clears throat* 'laboratory-confirmed influenza (covid)'"

      Is this, like, a reference to something someone said or ??? Because COVID-19 is not a form of influenza.

      1. mad.casual   3 years ago

        Because COVID-19 is not a form of influenza.

        And even more obviously, getting hit by a car while riding your motorcycle or showing up in the hospital because you're pregnant isn't a form of COVID-19 either and, yet, here we are.

        1. HorseConch   3 years ago

          Don't forget gunshot wounds, getting suffocated by Derek Chauvin, and overdose.

    2. Brian   3 years ago

      I don’t get it.

      1. mad.casual   3 years ago

        You and more than 85% of the rest of the population.

  55. TJJ2000   3 years ago

    Democrats Voting Rights...
    - illegal immigrant voting ?rights?
    - dead people voting ?rights?
    - multiple county voting (for Democrats anyways) ?rights?
    - counting same votes multiple times ?rights?
    - the right to hide physical ballots from authenticity
    - the right to pure anonymous voting (cows, horses and pets)

    Why Democrats are so popular.......... The 'right' to commit crimes!

  56. jack murphy   3 years ago

    please mr. manchin, do not relent. let this steaming pile die the death it deserves. PLEASE stand strong and know that if you do my checkbook will be out for you next time you run. PLEASE do not fold. PLEASE.

  57. mad.casual   3 years ago

    So, for the last year, I've been wondering about how COVID fanatics were going to find their way back to reality and polite society once it became obvious how untenable sustaining their mental disorder would be. After all, it only takes a few Elvis impersonators to convince those true believers that he's not dead, but forcibly jabbing needles into everyone for all of time is a bit beyond the pale.

    I gotta say, after the CEOs of two major airlines admitted that assaulting people and ejecting them from aircraft for not wearing masks or forcing their children to wear masks was just for shits and giggles; I'm not a fan of the "No harm, no foul?" apology.

    1. Overt   3 years ago

      I originally thought that the masking thing was just that: a talisman that would allow the covidians to venture forth into the world unafraid again. Recall they released that guidance at the end of the summer of lockdown, when governments were saying, "Ok maybe it is time to get the tax base going again." The Surgeon General made a video showing how you could MacGyver a mask out of a bandanna and some rubber bands, and said, "See, if you wear this, it could help."

      Little did I know that within 2 weeks, Karens would be assaulting folks in central park for not wearing the masks. They had terrorized these fuckers so much, that they were assaulting people on a picnic.

      1. JimboJr   3 years ago

        The issue with people that believe in religious talismans is that they believe in magic powers and todler level mentation.

        In THEIR head, its the most important thing in the world and all important. Just like my kid wanting a toy in the store

      2. mad.casual   3 years ago

        God help me, here's hoping that the Unions figure out "Hey if they'll fuck over the customers because they're officious dicks, how do we know they aren't just fucking us over too?" *drink*

        1. mad.casual   3 years ago

          Sorry, *ignorant* officious dicks.

  58. Liberty Lover   3 years ago

    With Build Back Better in Doubt, Biden and Democrats Pivot to Ending Free and Fair Elections

  59. Jeff Mason   3 years ago

    As to face masks, you are told they are to protect others, not you. That is to say they stop you from spreading the virus to others but don’t stop you from inhaling the virus so, evevyone must wear one for them to work. Ask yourself this - if a mask can stop the viruses you exhale, why can’t it stop the viruses you inhale? It’s the same mask. There is no valve in it. Answer: They don’t stop viruses in either direction. They are worthless theater.

  60. NOYB2   3 years ago

    San Francisco Mayor London Breed (D) announced a crackdown on crime.

    Criminals will be punished severely by misgendering them and terrorizing them by showing them American flags.

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