Is Dr. Oz Fit To Join the U.S. Senate?
The TV personality's extensive history of promoting dubious nostrums suggests that he isn't.

Celebrity TV physician Mehmet Oz is running in the Republican primary to represent Pennsylvania in the U.S. Senate. Trained as a heart surgeon, Oz became famous as a frequent guest on The Oprah Winfrey Show and later launched his own daytime TV series, in which he dispensed medical advice for 13 seasons. Before becoming a medicine-show entertainer, Oz did some truly groundbreaking work at Columbia University with respect to pioneering minimally invasive surgical techniques to repair damaged hearts.
Oz's "Why I'm Running" statement leans heavily on the disarray and discord provoked by COVID-19. "The urgency of my decision crystalized during the pandemic," it says. "At least half a million American people have died from the virus, a devastating toll for families and communities. What also hurts is that many of those deaths were preventable." He adds, "In this emergency, we needed capable leaders ready to act—and we didn't get that. The entire situation angered me."
Oz specifically inveighs against "elite thinkers who controlled the means of communication" and the "arrogant, close-minded people" who "closed our schools, shut down our businesses and took away our freedom." He adds: "America should have been the world leader on how to beat the pandemic. Instead, we were not."
A lot of "elite thinkers" in the media are responding by calling Oz a quack. "Just What the Quack Ordered: Dr. Oz Expected to Announce Pennsylvania Senate Run," proclaims Vanity Fair. "Quack TV Doctor Thinks He Deserves to Be a Senator, Because That's Where We Are Now," headlines Rolling Stone. "Dr. Oz Quacks the Code of Republican Party," quips The Bulwark. MSNBC piles on with "Dr. Oz is the TV quack candidate Republicans deserve."
Are they right? Again, Oz has been a skilled and innovative heart surgeon. But his long-time advocacy of unconventional treatments and therapies have indeed prompted criticism from a lot of his medical colleagues.
Going back to 1999, Oz co-wrote "A Study of the Effect of Energy Healing on In Vitro Tumor Cell Proliferation," published in The Journal of Alternative and Complementary Medicine. In that study, an "energy healer" tried to slow down the growth of cancer cells in Petri dishes. Oz and his colleagues reported that "energy healing appears to influence several indices of growth in in vitro tumor cell proliferation" but ultimately found that the effects were inconclusive. Other researchers have been more firmly negative: A 2005 study in the British Journal of Cancer testing the powers of three different energy healers on cancer cell growth in Petri dishes reported that its "results do not support previous reports of beneficial effects of spiritual healing on malignant cell growth in vitro."
Nevertheless, Oz has maintained his interest in "energy healing." On a 2004 episode of NPR's Speaking of Faith, Oz told host Krista Tippett: "Let's take a big area of energy. And whether energy exists or not at the macro level, at the level of the human being, is a difficult thing to tell." Still, he continued, "Why would we not think that disturbances of that energy might cause some of the ailments that we cannot, today, put a name on?"
In 2012, Oz wrote a glowing foreword to "energy healer" Raven Keyes' book, The Healing Power of Reiki, in which he explains that he had allowed Keyes (with his patients' permission) into his operating room while he conducted surgery. Reiki practitioners claim to heal by channeling universal life force energy through their hands into their clients' bodies.
"My reiki master is the archangel Gabriel. All I have to do is ask Gabriel to activate all the angels, and everybody's angels come to life," Keyes explained to Vox in 2015. "I'm connecting with the divine light within me and allowing myself to absorb the divine light in myself so it expands outward."
Despite its dubious direct therapeutic value, prestigious medical centers such as the Cleveland Clinic do now offer reiki treatments as a form of complementary medicine. The Baylor rheumatologist Donald Marcus published an op-ed in The Journal of Clinical Investigation last year decrying the proliferation of alternative medicine offerings at leading medical centers. "The defining characteristic of alternative therapies," he argued, "is that their health claims do not meet evidence-based standards, and many, such as naturopathy, homeopathy, and energy healing, are scientifically implausible."
Other medical professionals have called Oz a quack because his TV medicine show has featured numerous charlatans peddling such pseudoscientific practices as homeopathy, iridology, astrology, and necromancy. Oz is usually careful not to specifically endorse the practices, but he uses verbiage—what he has described as "flowery language"—that viewers could easily assume were endorsements. And he has promoted several false claims on his show, including the ideas that apple juice is laced with arsenic and that a green coffee bean extract is a miraculous weight-loss remedy.
In 2014, a group of researchers published an article in the BMJ evaluating the medical recommendations made on televised medical talk shows. On The Dr Oz Show, they reported, peer-reviewed medical evidence supported 46 percent of his recommendations, contradicted 15 percent, and was not found for 39 percent. "Approximately half of the recommendations have either no evidence or are contradicted by the best available evidence," they concluded. "Potential conflicts of interest are rarely addressed."
In 2015, Oz hosted a program focused on apples genetically enhanced to be non-browning after they are sliced. During the show, he suggested that because we don't know what effects the apples can have on our bodies, we're "engaged in a bit of science experiment."
This provoked a group of pro-biotech researchers to write a letter to Columbia University arguing that Oz should be dismissed from the faculty. "Dr. Oz is guilty of either outrageous conflicts of interest or flawed judgements about what constitutes appropriate medical treatments, or both," they wrote. "Whatever the nature of his pathology, members of the public are being misled and endangered, which makes Dr. Oz's presence on the faculty of a prestigious medical institution unacceptable."
Columbia responded that the university is "committed to the principle of academic freedom and to upholding faculty members' freedom of expression for statements they make in public discussion." For his part, Oz pointed out his accusers' own potential conflicts of interests. Shortly thereafter, in a 2015 op-ed in USA Today, eight of Oz's Columbia colleagues defended his freedom of speech but damningly added, "Many of us are spending a significant amount of our clinical time debunking Ozisms regarding metabolism game changers. Irrespective of the underlying motives, this unsubstantiated medicine sullies the reputation of Columbia University and undermines the trust that is essential to physician-patient relationships."
Despite these contretemps, Oz's TV show sailed on, garnering ever more daytime Emmy awards. In 2016, Oz may have reached a political turning point when he took a televised patient history of reality-TV star and Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump. "You know, my wife is a big fan of your show, and I would absolutely say because I view this as in a way going to see my doctor," Trump observed. In 2018, President Trump appointed Oz to the 20-member White House Council on Fitness, Sports and Nutrition.
Trump declared on March 19, 2020, that the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine was a potential pandemic "game-changer." Given his enthusiasm for "alternative" treatments, Oz's immediate jump onto the hydroxychloroquine train is not surprising, and it definitely put him closer to Trump's orbit. On Neil Cavuto's March 22, 2020, Fox News show, Oz touted the results of a sketchy study on the drug by the notorious French researcher Didier Raoult. Oz's subsequent appearances on various Fox News shows boosting hydroxychloroquine as a COVID-19 treatment apparently bolstered Trump's continued promotion of the drug.
In his Senate announcement, Oz says that he "tried to fund clinical trials to re-purpose an already widely used drug for possible benefits against Covid-19, but they were banned." Emails obtained through Freedom of Information Act requests show that starting on March 22, 2020, Oz contacted White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator Deborah Birx several times asking for access to the drug for trials that he was arranging in New York. It is not clear that his trial got "banned," but several others were launched at around the same time.
In any case, after evaluating the results of numerous studies, the Cochrane review of evidence-based medicine concluded that "hydroxychloroquine does not reduce deaths from COVID-19, and probably does not reduce the number of people needing mechanical ventilation." In other words, the drug turned out unfortunately not to be a COVID-19 "game-changer."
So what does the angry doctor propose to do about America's many problems? Appearing for an interview on Fox News host Sean Hannity's November 30 show, Oz started out denouncing the "incredible authoritarianism" and "overreaching" that "metastasized" at the beginning of the pandemic. Yet Oz himself supported a lot of the early measures adopted to slow the virus' spread. On Cavuto's March 22, 2020, show, he said "we have to do" what he called "this quarantine" if we were "to slow down the growth of this epidemic." After all, Trump had just advised local and state governments to close schools, bars, restaurants, gyms, and other indoor and outdoor venues where groups of people congregate when there is evidence of community transmission of the virus.
In any case, Oz outlined three basic goals in his Hannity interview. The first is safety. "And safety in our body means high-quality health care. That's got to come. But on the streets, it means well-trained police," he said. "We got safety problems in the borders, too." Later in the program, when asked about what he would do about immigration, Oz said: "I think President Trump was right. People should wait on the Mexican side of the border to coming across illegally."
The second issue, Oz said, is that "you need choice" with respect to your children's education. "You need local rule, why wouldn't you be involved in figuring the curriculum of your kids' education, and you got to have your values defended," he argued. The third issue is jobs, but he didn't get around to explaining what he proposes to do about them.
Hannity also asked Oz what his political philosophy was. He responded:
I'll tell you one thing for sure, any government that's large enough to give you everything is powerful enough to take it all away. So I don't want that. I want liberty and freedom and that to me means limited government. We can do it better than folks very far away from us who don't know our local problems….
I believe in capitalism, which means lower taxes and regulations, so people can really compete, and I respect the Constitution, a brilliantly written document that I think should be honored on the bench, and sometimes isn't. We have free market solutions that work.
Those are appealing sentiments, but I don't think Oz is the best spokesman for them. His extensive history of credulously promoting dubious nostrums makes me question his fitness for office.
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lol what Greek Gods do you think are up on Capitol Hill right now?
Exactly, and drat for beating me to it. Even his quackiest medical advice doesn't do near the harm done by the economic quacks and political hacks running the show now.
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The greatest quack of them all, Anthony Fauci/.Dr.Mengele is guilty of millions of deaths.yet, he is revered across the globe.
Sick and pathetic.
And even funnier is Ron Bailey thinking he has the credibility to judge anyone.
Bailey has absolutely 0% credibility, so the worst Oz could do would be tie him.
For the record, I want neither in congress.
>>I want neither in congress
I want to campaign on "I'll vote NO every time" just to see if anyone's paying attention.
You have my vote, sir.
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I would take Bailey in Congress in a heartbeat. If he left Reason to join the House of Representatives, he'd raise the libertarian quotient of both institutions.
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If he left Reason to join the House of Representatives, he'd raise the libertarian quotient of both institutions.
For about the time it takes to read 3/4 of one of his articles. Then it'll be off to the "We need to produce 330M tests every two weeks so that everyone can monitored continuously." or "Once we bankrupt ranchers we can return their land to nature." races.
I mean fuck, Ron was trying to legitimize mandatory vaccinations after Zika.
Ron’s an idiot who doesn’t understand how to read scientific information and evaluate it.
He’s a dummy assigned the science beat, with all the scientific background and interpretive skills of a child.
Not an idiot, but not that scientifically competent either.
It's hell understanding statistics and watching the world swirl the drain because MPAI.
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Oz sounds good to me.
His platform is:
Remain in Mexico
School choice for parents
Respect the constitution
Lower taxes, less regulation
Limited government
More freedom.
What’s not to like?
What part of quack don't you understand
I respect the Constitution
Already lost my meager endorsement. Not only is this a meaningless statement, but it's one that also implies Dr. Oz's impotence.
Support secession, or end the State.
I did it again...
Oops.
Literally half the US congress is on board with Fauci and his propaganda/lies as he is obviously doing nothing more than spouting nonsense to absolve himself from the release of COVID he absolutely played a role in. They openly celebrate this ridiculous person and cheer him.
So ya, Im not worried about Dr Oz as much as I am worried about the fact that Dr Oz is more qualified than probably 70% of congress to be there.
Why do clingers resent credentials, expertise, education, science, progress, and achievement?
Other than being half-educated, science-disdaining, superstitious, bigoted, backwater slack-jaws, I mean.
Why do Dems excuse torturing puppies in the name of science?
And Dr. Oz has some pretty impressive credentials (from Wikipedia):
He excelled during his residency at Columbia University, receiving the Blakemore Research Award four times. Oz helped develop numerous devices and procedures related to heart surgery, including the MitraClip and the left ventricular assist device (LVAD), and by 2015 held 11 patents related to heart surgery.
In 2010, Oz joined Jeff Arnold as co-founder of Sharecare, Inc.
Oz has been a professor at the Department of Surgery at Columbia University since 2001. He also directs the Integrative Medicine Center at Columbia University, which he cofounded as the Cardiac Complementary Care Center in 1994.
And he's still a quack, thinking his TV persona will get him elected. Just what we need, another reality TV nut job as an elected official. Furthermore, I'm certain he's hoping Oprah will campaign for him. Credentials aside he's still a quack, just look at the crap he pushes on his website.
Boy you're an arrogant, opinionated asshole!
Partial list of shit over educated elite got us into:
Eugenics
Racial Segregation
Vietnam War
Drug War
COVID
Would you like me to list more, Reverend?
Reverend Kirkland is the greatest culture warrior since Samson.
His body count may be lower, but he sure as hell uses the same weapon.
"Why do clingers resent credentials, expertise, education, science, progress, and achievement?"
You mean unscientific clingers like the American Heart Association's covid study who Twitter just tried to censor for misinformation by posting a "this link is unsafe" on it?
https://twitter.com/Barta57/status/1466441799136731136
Kirkland gets his scientisming from the University of CNN and not some rando Maga group like the Oxford virology department which also got censored, so he knows he's always right.
So, do you support Dr. Oz' peddling of Woo, sine Dr. Oz also is "credentialed" from Columbia University and not Ouachita Baptist?
Wouldn't supporting Woo make you a "half-educated, science-disdaining, superstitious, bigoted, backwater slack-jaw?"
Carry on, Klinger!
More like 60-65% . Fauci is way more popular than you trumpers think.
Is Dr. Oz Fit To Join the U.S. Senate?
He’s certainly fit to put an incumbent out on their ass.
He's not even a true republican
Well, he's a Republican it turns out, so questionable medical advice is right in their wheelhouse. But I suspect he'd draw a lot less scrutiny for such things if he were a Democrat. And they've got plenty of crazy on their side as well.
But yeah, a successful medical doctor with a big non-partisan TV following is easily above the median candidate these days in intellect and cross-over appeal.
Is Dr. Oz Fit To Join the U.S. Senate?
Mayhe, but the real question of the title should be:
Is The US. Senare Fit To Be There?
… extensive history of promoting dubious nostrums …
Like testing for Covid will solve our problems?
It darned well might have short-circuited a whole lot of bad Fauci advice. Almost every bit of political theater for this pandemic depended on no one really knowing how extensive it wasn't.
Wrong.
They would've done what they did, and will do, regardless of anything short of violent uprisings (which they successfully pre-empted with the astroturfed blmantifa months of terrorism).
The usual nardz idiocy. They depended and still depend on fear to reduce opposition to their lockdowns. Testing would have shown how overblown their fantasies were. More knowledge is always useful. Statists depend on ignorance and fear. Reduce both and you reduce their scope for overblown control.
We already know their fantasies are overblown, dumbass, and we've known for a long time.
I understand how that can be missed when you've got your head buried as far beneath the sand as you can get it, but the reality is the information and data has been widespread for 2 years and it doesn't fucking matter.
How so? They shifted from % of ER and deaths to % or number of positive cases. Testing everybody and adding that 5-10% false positive rate and positive tests on the asymptomatic would be a godsend to the fear mongering. They have never used IFR once reality dropped ot well below 1.
1%
The more you expose their lies, the more you limit their ability to lie.
The idea that more testing to learn more about the extent of the pandemic would not have helped limit the lockdowns is bizarre. Do you think less knowledge would have limited them? It should be obvious, but you and you tag team buddy nardz wouldn't dare admit Bailey knows anything. It's all or nothing with you clowns.
The more you expose their lies, the more you limit their ability to lie.
I wish that were true. I really do. But it's not. The more you expose their lies, the more mendacious they become.
"The escalator of mendacity".
Theyve been lying for 200 years. People still have trust on them at alarming rates.
And no. Bailey often represents the actual science relaying abstracts and outright dismissing counter studies. I dont trust Bailey on science at all.
Testing has never been a panacea as too much data allows a narrative to be created out of whole cloth. Again. See how they keep switching the metrics to maintain fear and panic. Are you actually denying this happened??
LOL
Bullshit. For the last year+ they've been using the obsessive testing to "prove" just how bad it is without bothering to even try to normalize it into an apples to apples comparison.
One of the metrics the CDC uses is number of positive tests. Not sure why ABC doesn't realize that.
Because he's an intellectual eunuch who doesn't have the psychological fortitude to admit the reality of our dire circumstances.
+1000
What an anti-libertarian question.
“Is Dr Mehmet Oz fit for office?”
Why so racist reason?
And Islamophobic (Dr. Oz's Wikipedia page says he's Muslim).
It’s on!
So any campaign events would be a blast?
Is he wearing a backpack?
...extensive history of promoting dubious nostrums...
What Senator isn't guilty of this? Seems he fits right in.
100%.
The TV personality's extensive history of promoting dubious nostrums suggests that he isn't.
Same thing got Donnie-Boy elected President.
Now we have a brain-dead child molester. Progress !
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar. If he uses numbers they are normally outright lies.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental. turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
turd should fuck off and die a slow and painful death.
And yet you promote the retarded shit that comes out of fauci mouth
Now do Fauci Ronald.
To be fair the gain of function viruses he illegally funded weren't technically nostrums. They are bio weapons.
I stand corrected.
Where is Oz from? I could see the argument that he's not fit for Teddy Kennedy's old seat since he hasn't actually killed anybody, but surely he's crooked enough for Joe Biden's old seat.
Yeah speaking of dubious nostrums how are those leaky "vaccines" that last for 3 months working out?
More dead this year. We don't know side effects or actual mortality because that's hush hush... For 55 fucking years.
they last at least 6 months and the 3rd booster likely boosts it for several years, but keep on trying to spread that bullshit
"Oz specifically inveighs against "elite thinkers who controlled the means of communication" and the "arrogant, close-minded people" who "closed our schools, shut down our businesses and took away our freedom." He adds: "America should have been the world leader on how to beat the pandemic. Instead, we were not."
Well he'd clearly be a better senator than Ron Bailey
He believes in woo woo magic healers. He's a loon just like the guy he'd be replacing.
Maybe not, but I'd be surprised if the Democratic candidate turns out to be a better one. In fact, I'd be less surprised if the Democratic candidate were to denounce those sentiments as racist and white supremacist.
My hope is just that Pennsylvania Republicans find a better, and electable, candidate.
"The defining characteristic of alternative therapies," he argued, "is that their health claims do not meet evidence-based standards"
Some of these alternative therapies are treating important things that are difficult to measure objectively--like pain, depression, and anxiety. Learning to live with chronic pain, missing limbs, depression during chemo or rehabilitation, etc . . . If a patient says yoga, massage, meditation, etc. makes them feel better, by what evidence based standard should a doctor or a scientist call them liars?
And if alternative therapies use reiki, crystals, or some other quackery as a means to treat these issues, that doesn't mean the underlying treatments aren't making the patients feel better. What's wrong with a psychosomatic solution to pain or depression that doesn't involve medication or surgery?
By no means should the taxpayers be funding these alternative treatments, but if you find some alternative treatment that helps you feel better and sleep at night while you're undergoing chemo, trust your own lying senses rather than the evidence based standards of doctors and scientists.
According to the law, crystals are better for you than those dangerous pain medications.
The average American is taking 6 prescriptions, which work for individual maladies but tend to cancel each other out. The biggest health gain pharmaceutically is to stop taking one of them.
It's interesting, sometimes, to think of all the conspiracy theories and quack theories that get bandied about--and all the really crazy stuff that happens under our noses that the conspiracy theorists never seem to notice.
To the best of my knowledge, there is no way for water treatment facilities to filter pharmaceuticals out of our water once they clear our kidneys and go through the wastewater treatment cycle.
It used to be that hardly anybody was taking medications, and so whatever was making it back into the water supply for people downstream was in trace amounts that didn't really matter. Now that everybody's taking something, I don't know if that's true anymore.
I think it's another case of civil engineers and environmental chemistry not being able to detect various pharmaceuticals in the water they treat--at least not in any economically viable way. How many different pharmaceuticals are we talking about? What's considered a safe dose? How many parts per million? They'll capture water with high levels of herbicide and pesticide at certain times of year, when the farmers are using that stuff upstream, and they try to just hold it for a while and let the chemicals fall to the bottom. Does it work with pharmaceuticals, too, and I mean all of them? I don't think anybody knows.
They have standardized tests before they release water that does things like put a certain number of a certain species of fish in a sample of the water before they release it, and then they time how long it takes all the fish in the sample to die--but nobody knows the long term effects of all those pharmaceuticals or even if they act like herbicide and pesticide and filter down in the sediment as they're diluted. They do know what to do with . . . um . . . hard substances that come through the sewage system, but I don't think anybody knows what happens to the pharmaceuticals in the water we drink.
The conspiracy theorists worry about fluoridation.
There are legitimate things to think about. If the government were involved, maybe the conspiracy theorists would get on top of it.
"What's wrong with a psychosomatic solution to pain or depression that doesn't involve medication or surgery?"
It doesn't involve medication or surgery, so hospitals, pharma companies, and insurance companies don't make any money.
Just for the record, I understand stealing money from people for treatments that don't cure cancer by saying they do is both wrong and illegal. Taking money long term from people for giving them psychosomatic responses probably isn't the most ethical thing in the world either.
But if you're learning to walk again after a surgery or an accident, and a psychosomatic response improves your enthusiasm for a difficult rehabilitation process, that's a no brainer part of the solution.
I know someone who developed an incredibly distracting tingling in her feet from nerve damage, possibly as a result of chemo or other medication she was on. She was declared cancer free years ago, but she still has this feeling like the worst case of your feet falling asleep ever--and it never stops. And the doctors tell her it probably never will stop. She'll just be like that forever.
She credits meditation with helping her come to terms with a condition that won't ever go away. Instead of it making her feel depressed, it's now just one part of her life, and it doesn't interfere with whatever she wants to do. I've heard people say that depression is when you can't stop thinking about the past, anxiety is when you can't stop obsessing about the future, and meditation trains your mind to stay focused on the present. She doesn't have any clinical based evidence to back her claim up that meditation helped. She just took a mediation class, does meditation, says that it helped, and credits it for why she feels so much better now--despite the tingling.
Who can argue with that?
I'm sure there's a credentialed medical professional somewhere who's dying to tell her how wrong she is, and give her some kind of drug for it.
If alternative "quackery" makes people feel better, there's nothing wrong with that. My sister in law is super into herbal therapies and she made me some weirdo witches brew for some chronic pain I was having. I took the witches brew because the drugs weren't helping. I slept a full, pain free night for the first time in months. Who knows if it really worked on the pain or if it was just psychosomatic. All I know is I drink her weirdo witch potion and I have significantly less pain.
Hell, any nurse and most doctors use psychosomatic effect to enhance even FDA approved medications. When I was a nurse, we often oversold how strong an analgesic or antiemetic was to give the patient a sense of relief. As long as we didn't lie outright, it wasn't considered unethical.
Techniques such as Lamaze and visualization have been scientifically proven to reduce pain and discomfort, and how are they different from meditation?
And that's a core challenge in doing actual medical research, and a disqualifying issue for all the personal anecdotes about miracle cures (or lack thereof). When people believe something, their perception (at least) is highly skewed.
Confidence (with faith) is Man's superpower.
We can "trick" ourselves into some really amazing feats.
Ken, when attacking Progressives: Progressives don't care about facts or logic or reason, they are ruled by emotions and FEELINGS!!
Ken, when defending Republicans: What is so wrong anyway in evaluating medical procedures by how people FEEL rather than by established medical standards? If someone wants to use magic rocks to cure their cancer, who are you to judge? Huh?
The hilarity just continues.
That's a lot of emotion coming from you.
Poor Jeffy is turning more and more into Deesarc every day.
Have I missed your response to this, Lying Jeffy?
https://mobile.twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1465752991827382272
Like his colleagues at Reason, Ron relies exclusively on the pronouncements of Top Men when attempting to digest the confusion that is always swirling around him and threatening to dislodge him from his carefully constructed reality. In fact Reason is actually affiliated with an outfit that's ckock full of Top Men. It's an actual institute. On occasion one of these learned intellectuals will publish a scholarly paper on tolling the interstates or food trucks or some other critical issue of the day. These publications cost millions of dollars to produce and are read by literally dozens of people including the staff of Reason magazine. Some have cynically pointed to the fact that the opinions expressed both by Reason writers and the Reason Institute are almost always in line with the financial interests of Reason benefactor Charles Koch and that this furthermore proves that Reason writers are not independent journalists at all but are in fact hacks. Nothing could be further from the truth and the very idea is properly characterized as a conspiracy theory.
But here we find Ron in a bit of a quandary. Can a skilled surgeon, a Top Man, who also advocates for alternative remedies possibly be fit for public office? Clearly Ron must rely on other Top Men and who better to quote than members of the medical and pharma establishment who are famous for opening their hearts and minds to those who offer alternatives to their chosen employment. If that same doctor were to criticize "elite thinkers who controlled the means of communication", a group of Top Men that Ron no doubt hopes to someday be a member of, can he possibly represent the the interests of the people of Pennsylvania? Who better to ask than those elite thinkers themselves all of whom shriek in unison "Quack, Quack, Quack!" At this point Ron's article practically writes itself. Ah but how to plunge the knife so the reader has no choice other than to accept his verdict of unfitness. Turns out Oz is a charlatan dispensing dubious nostrums. The term of course evokes images of the early 20th century when a free market run amok allowed unscrupulous actors to hawk various unapproved remedies to willing buyers. The situation proved to be such a threat that the federal government had no choice except to establish one of the largest groups of Top Men ever, The FDA. We can all now rest assured that the only remedies available will be patented by Top Men and praised by elite thinkers.
Damn, dude. Leave the guy at least a little self-respect.
He didn’t say anything about fucking his wife?
I don't think I've read that much drivel in quite a while. So many words to not say a fucking thing.
So Feelz Before Realz as long as the Feelz are Republican, amirite?
Dubious nostrums disqualify one for the Senate? When did that happen?
I'm sorry I waited a couple minutes to comment, because that means a million people made this observation before me.
It should disqualify Oz. He’s long held that useless supplements should be able to be sold without limitations imposed by the FDA.
https://hphr.org/2-article-cohen/
He’s likely hoping to benefit financially by reducing regulations in that market, by introducing amendments to the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 ("DSHEA").
My heart also lies broken and trampled in that rush...
And Nostrums...Is that like that Netti-Pot thing that douches out your nasal passges? 😉
Dubious nostrums disqualify one for the Senate? When did that happen?
I'm sorry I waited a couple minutes to comment, because that means a million people made this observation before me.
A million and one.
PA Lt. Gov. John Fetterman Sees Legal Cannabis as a Common Sense Component for America
Pennsylvania’s Lieutenant Governor John Fetterman has been outspoken about cannabis legalization from the start.
https://hightimes.com/news/politics/pa-lt-gov-john-fetterman/
This guy at least has one libertarian issue. Oz is probably just another Big Gov GOPer and Aborto-freak.
He believes it’s time American politicians admit they were wrong on the drug war, acknowledging the effects it continues to inflict on individuals and communities. He hopes to keep that connection in people’s minds as legalization spreads across America. Fetterman endeavors to advance pot-policy with his actions and his deliberate choice of words. Preferring to use the term “weed,” Fetterman has pushed back on requests to change his terminology, stating that weed is the term used in his community, and its usage helps keep the topic accessible.
High Times!
No one reads your shit.
Clicking a sbp link is inviting legal troubles
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar. If he uses numbers they are normally outright lies.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental. turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Oz is probably just another Big Gov GOPer and Aborto-freak.
He's a grifter.
"Oz is probably just another Big Gov GOPer"
It really isn't that hard to look this stuff up you know: https://timesofcbd.com/dr-oz-shares-new-cannabis-legalization-comments-pertaining-to-fda-and-dea-actions/
"Oz denounced the "hypocrisy" in the Drug Enforcement Administration's classification of cannabis as a Schedule I, controlled substance on Fox & Friends. He has advocated for medical marijuana as a solution for the opioid epidemic during an episode of the series featuring Montel Williams."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Oz
So I'm skeptical Dr. Oz is gonna be some big Pro-Drug War type like Joe Biden or Kamala Harris were.
"and Aborto-freak."
PA's Senior Senator Bob Casey (a Democrat) at least claims to be Pro-life. So screeching about a Republican being anti-abortion in PA is kind of eye-roll worthy. But whatever floats your boat I guess.
Fetterman is far left wing on almost every issue.
Legalizing weed is one of only a few sound policies that he supports.
Wait, I thought of an original joke:
Who dares question the great and powerful Oz?
Maybe not original, but I'm the first to use it in *this* thread.
Kudos. I can arrange to have a matted and framed copy of this page printed in dramatic black white for a reasonable fee.
"My sarcasm detector is going through the roof!"
"Ooh, a sarcasm detector - that's a real useful invention!"
I've been meaning to purchase one of those.
Oh yeah, would look great on the refrigerator.
Yet Oz himself supported a lot of the early measures adopted to slow the virus' spread. On Cavuto's March 22, 2020, show, he said "we have to do" what he called "this quarantine" if we were "to slow down the growth of this epidemic."
Hmm. March 22, 2020. Funny. That's right around the time Ron Bailey launched his 19 month campaign to beclown himself in ways no other human has ever attempted. Seems like maybe OZ rethought his initial impressions. Ron Bailey not so much.
A lot of people thought a two or three week lockdown would slow the spread enough to stop the hospitals from being overrun. And then they extended it for 20 months, even if it didn't work and the hospitals were overrun briefly in only a few locations.
And in some of those locations, they could have transferred patients to other hospitals but weren't allowed to. The result is one hospital overflowing and one right across town twiddling their thumbs.
Who the fvck cares? Everybody supported measures 18 months ago that proved ineffective or irrelwvant, down to disinfectimg surfaces.
The question is what has he supported in 2021 now that we know most of it was all bullshit. That is what separates the reasonable from the insane and the powermad tyrants
The question isn’t “is he fit for office” but really “is he more fit than whomever he runs against?”
I haven’t seen who the opposition candidates might be, but I’m going to guess they’re all pro-regulation, pro-tax increases, pro-biomedical-surveillance, and a host of other things that make them WAY less fit for office than a guy who said some questionable things on a TV show.
I think this identifies a key failure in our system. We lack the ability to vote for neither. If a majority voted for neither then the seat should remain open and another election is called until someone people actually want is electected rather than just whomever is least bad among the first draft candidates.
This is where electoral innovations such as ranked choice voting can make a difference.
You may actually be dumber than David Hogg.
Explain.
Any Libertarian who opposes the initiation of force--especially by superstitious bigots--is better qualified. And wasn't the 1930 Liberal Party of America founded in Pennsylvania? That LP was the Prohibition-repealing precursor to today's Libertarian Party. Pennsylvania now has two senators committed to bullying doctors and girls at gunpoint. Time for the 19th Amendment to arrive there.
Don't need another TDS-addled spastic asshole, Hank. Fuck off and die.
Mehmet Oz is unfit for the senate, but Chuck Schumer is just fine.
K.
Reason beclowns itself again.
Actually I think he's a better fit in Cali than PA but as an R he'd be toast. Of course given he's a bit left of Alec Baldwin when it comes to gun knowledge he might not have a slugs chance crossing the Bonneville Salt Flats.
If Fauci is fit to be the singular voice of COVID "Science" for 330,000,000 people, then Dr. Oz can be the fucking surgeon general for all I care.
“Libertarian” reason only trusts the government.
If he pushes for fiscal responsibility, would that be called ozterity?
I’m picking up some of you punditry through ozmosis.
The mere idea of Ozzy running for Senate makes me want to "Bark At The Moon!"
He is a quack. But we’ve had literal comedians.
What does it say about medicine that pioneering heart surgeons would rather do anything but actually practice medicine?
Al Franken was in the senate.
Given his performances on SNL, I would not consider Franken a comedian.
We had a con man reality show host as President, in America anything is possible!
Does Dr. 0z support forced quarantine camps? Because if not he lost sarcs endorsement.
But what if he supported segregated public Beast Ice fountains? He would be torn.
Beast ice always means a multi cultural block party. Go to your nearest corner says brown bag and observe.
How does oz feel about Cuban sandwiches?
Never heard of it.
But there's hot babes, bro.
Dee ain’t hot.
If Basement Bunker Biden was fit, so is 'The Mighty and Powerful Oz!'
The great philosopher Kris Kristofferson said it best:
"It's time for truth the barker said and poured his self a beer
Oh yeah forsooth said Ben the Geek but who'll be left to hear
They've driven off the fools and saints and now they've stole the show
It's all a bloody circus mates and clowns are in control"
The great philosopher Kris Kristofferson said it best:
If you don't like Hank Williams, honey, you can kiss my ass.
Didn't he also say: "Why me, Lard?..."
Charlie Daniels laid it on thicker:
"I said would you believe this man has gone as far
As tearin' Wallace stickers off the bumpers of cars
And he voted for George McGovern for president
Well he's a friend of them long-haired hippie type pinko fags
I betcha he's even got a Commie flag
Tacked up on the wall inside of his garage"
Flag for new TDS-addled spastic asshole!
As opposed to wear on terror, war on drugs, deficit spending, socialism, SJW, CRT like “normal” politicians?
There are no disqualifying criteria for government office. Thanks, democracy.
Is Dr. Oz Fit To Join the U.S. Senate?
He's a wizard compared to some of the current Senate membership.
Indeed. We should be talking about aborting government instead of fetuses.
Not the direction I was trying to take this, but you be you.
I'll make the comparison that The Squad are the winged monkeys of Congress.
I'll make the comparison that The Squad are the winged monkeys of Congres
Pretty good! Disappointed in myself for missing the joke.
Can we throw some water on Pelosi?
The Wicked Witch of the West is already Speaker of the House.
Unicorn, you beat me to it. Is this guy truly any worse than the current crop of Senators? At the very least, the combined IQ of that body will increase with his addition.
Detached from reality? Check
Willing to say any nonsensical thing for his patrons? Check
Pretends as if prior public statements never happened? Check.
Professes stands with broad appeal despite a history of supporting the opposite? Check
Seems like he passes the bar for becoming a member of Congress.
Anyone who passes a bar isn't fit for office. Unless they're from Utah.
Bailey gets so woke doesn't he? Have you seen the morons who are US Senators? The liars, socialists, tribalists? Look at Schumer..the guy never saw a business the govt shouldn't shake down. Blumenthal? Jimmy Carter's nephew or whatever from Emory (the Oberlin of the south). I can count on one hand intelligent Senators (Rand Paul, Mike Lee...well I have two).
Dr Oz isn't any worse than Durbin..oh but he isn't a hard scientist. Most of the senate couldn't pass freshman level physics. Go Dr. Oz...all the way baby!
Ron
I looked for this critique of other congresscritters and couldn't find it, so is this some new post-gortification requirement or are you just pulling shit out of your authoritarian ass?
But I'll do you the courtesy of applying your standard for Oz to you and your reporting. Sadly you cannot be trusted based on your years of supporting unscientific hokum.
I don't understand why so many physicians are so ignorant of basic science.
He could be a psychopathic grifter, of course.
I'm old enough to remember when conservatives would laugh at the hippies using magic rocks for medicine. Now, conservatives vote for them.
Who voted for Dr Oz already?
I’ve already joined his CULT!
Hey, it worked for Fauci.
Basic science? Like newtonian mechanics? Maxwell's equations? Quantum theory? Ok that isn't basic but honestly most folks who
"follow the science" i hear are liberal art majors who have little critical thinking skills or passed basic physics or chemistry. Talk to some "green energy" fanatic and you will realize they have no idea of the 2nd law of thermodynamics or understand electricity generated for the grid can't be stored economically. It isn't potable, storable, or as usable as well good old hydrocarbons
Learn to recognize girl-bullying superstition. Oz, Ron and Randal Paul, Lyin' Ted, Drumpf, Marjorie Greene Teeth, G. Waffen Bush, Lyin' Ted... seek the initiation of force to coerce women into forced labor as conscript dams in the Armageddon against Race Suicide. Theodore Roosevelt handed them the mantra in 1902! Hear it firsthand! https://tinyurl.com/3uuebhun
One more TDS-addled spastic pile of shit gets flagged.
There's many ways to evaluate the fitness of a candidate for office, but two common ones are by policy, and by character.
One can evaluate the candidate based on policy. Will this candidate vote in a way that the potential voter wants on the important issues? Using this metric, character doesn't matter very much. Who cares if the candidate has poor character? At least the candidate will vote in the 'correct' way.
Or, one can evaluate the candidate based on character. And by character here it means not just moral character, but also soundness of judgment. Using this metric, policy isn't as important, because the voter is counting on a candidate's sagacity to make wise decisions on his/her behalf. After all a politician must cast votes on issues not yet arisen, and the only way to know how that politician might decide is to evaluate shrewdness of character.
Most people use a combination of the two metrics (and others) to decide for whom to vote - very few voters would vote for Dahmer even if the policy positions were aligned perfectly, and very few voters would vote even for Mother Theresa if her platform was diametrically opposed to theirs. And in my view, a principled voter should set very high standards on *both* of these metrics before judging a candidate to be worth his/her vote. It's not enough to have EITHER good character OR good policy, one must have both to a sufficient extent. This is where Oz fails, and frankly this is where Trump failed too. It isn't enough to have "good enough" policy positions. One must demonstrate soundness of judgment to make wise decisions on crises that are sure to come, such as - oh I don't know - a once-in-a-century global pandemic.
Where does SleepyJoe fit into your decision matrix?
"Introduction to Politics" by Dr. J Evans Pritchard.
Isn't it just horrible to contemplate the reasons to vote for/against a candidate in a rational way? Much better just to spew feelings and "go with your gut" instead and post endless comments about how the other guys are evil Nazis bent on destroying the universe.
Go with Gut Mit Uns sure as hell got Hitler elected, as Americans booted Dry Volkegnosse Bert Hoover out on his fat ass. Christian National Socialism is the same thing in These States as it was in Germany. The difference is they now understand that Freethinkers Jews and Jews enjoy stringing them up.
Other TDS-addled spastic asshole flagged
Isn't credulously promoting dubious nostrums the new normal for members of either major party?
Is the idea that invoking the archangel Gabriel will cure disease any more deranged than MMT, or the idea that at some point inflation benefits the poor more than the rich, or the idea that racism and bigotry are the only conceivable explanation for the failure of voters to fall in line behind every Dem on every ballot?
Maybe Oz is just looking for a payday at the expense of the media? From what I've heard, the use of the work "Quack" directed at a medical doctor has been established to be actionable under libel laws in many states.
The new governor of New York literally stood in a church and said Jesus wants everybody to get the Covid jab and she wanted those present to be her Apostles in the quest. I don't remember Ron pointing out that the bitch is too bat shit crazy to be governor.
Local story.
She is trying to find an issue to run on. She is from Buffalo and is facing a black NYC woke who is AG. She has no chance and as the primary gets closer and closer she will continue to act more as a irrational as she tries to gin up the far left in NY State. She is toast in the primary and will never hold elected office again..trust me.
"Dubious nostrums" is a lot better than the idiocy senators like Sanders, Warren, Biden, Clinton, and Harris have been promoting.
And at least "Dr. Oz" is good at something, even if it is selling crap on TV; that's still more skills than 90% of the Senate.
Kellogg's was all set to sell Fauci Flakes, but the nutritional information needed to be updated every 3 days.
Ha!
How about a Dr. Fauci Flea and Tick collar?
They would have to be ivermectin free.
It's not their fault that a unicorn read the double blind study and immediately gouged its eyes out with its horn.
*golf clap*
Buy zero boxes get four free.
Are they really idiots, though? (Besides Harris.)
Sanders, no. Warren, yes. Biden, yes. Clinton, no. Harris, yes.
I didn’t say they were idiots, I said they were promoting idiocy.
McConnell caves as expected, kicks the can along with 18 other Republicans.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10269397/House-PASSES-stop-gap-bill-221-212-fund-government-February-18.html
They actually think a government shutdown would be unpopular.
The deal hatched in the Senate allowed for a vote on a single amendment, the Lee-Marshall amendment, which would defund Biden's vaccine mandate
The amendment vote failed, with 48 voting to defund the vaccine mandate and 50 voting against it
Earlier, the House passed the same bill that will keep the government open through February 18
Just one House Republican, Rep. Adam Kinzinger, voted alongside the Democratic majority - in a vote of 221-212
The bill includes virtually no new spending, but does include $7 billion for Afghan refugees
Spending is not the only way government hurts Americans. Because its always growing, any bill that fails to limit growth is allowing Americans to be hurt.
Promoting dubious nostrums? Sounds like he's perfectly fit for the Senate.
His TV medicine show has featured numerous charlatans peddling such pseudoscientific practices as homeopathy, iridology, astrology, and necromancy.
If he flubs the primary, The Ark Encounter Museum will pay top dollar for a director with a doctorate, so Ken Ham can retire.
You know who else never should have run for office but did anyway?
Hillary Clinton?
If Bernie is qualified for the US Senate, then DR OZ is just as qualified. Both are moonbats of the highest degree. Along with Elizabeth Warren and Pat Toomey.
Good Lord, Half these people aren't qualified to be dog catcher.
The GOP is interested in Fugitive Slave Catchers to force them Jezebels to squeeze out cannon fodder for God and Armageddon!
Fuck off and die, Hank.
He’s far more fit to be in the senate than you are to work for an ostensibly libertarian enterprise!
“ Those are appealing sentiments, but I don't think Oz is the best spokesman for them.”
Because those 100 other guys currently occupying Senate seats are so obviously much the better spokespeople.
The TV personality's extensive history of promoting dubious nostrums suggests that he isn't.
Oh my, we certainly wouldn't want anyone with a history of promoting dubious nostrums in the Senate!
No we don't. And this idea of "it's okay if MY team does it" has got to stop. Everyone should be held to a high standard. We don't want con artists or grifters in positions of power regardless of party or ideology. Because con artists and grifters demonstrate a profound lack of a soundness of judgment that is required when wielding the levers of power. This is not a difficult concept.
Eat shit
Now there's some "facts and logic" that Ken would approve of.
You truly are a pioneer of our time with such grand statements.
Time to move out of mom's basement there my guy.
Everyone should be held to a high standard.
He's *endangering* people by suggesting they avoid GMO apples is an exceedingly low standard.
He's fit to grift. Would fit right in with a lot of them.
Yeah, I'm having trouble reconciling Ron's sentiments toward Oz as distinct from saying "A doctor who has priests bless his surgeries shouldn't be in the Senate." or "A doctor who takes breaks from surgeries to pray to Mecca shoudn't be in the Senate." Sure their methods may be edgy or offend your sensibilities about how fair and impartial science can be conducted, but until you can show that a patient was harmed by Holy Water or harmed by neglect while he was praying to Mecca, your proclivities are no more relevant than a flat Earther's.
I'm no more in favor of non-GMO apples than I am in favor of bankrupting ranchers to return their land 'back to nature', but to assert that he's endangering someone by suggesting they choose 'conventional' apples over GMO apples is equally spurious and disinformative.
As a lifelong resident of PA (in three different parts of the state) and political junky, I think it will be more difficult for Oz to win the GOP nomination than win in the general election.
I also suspect that many in PA's GOP establishment (as well as many rural conservative Republicans) are NOT pleased that a carpet bagger TV doctor who hawked unscientific pills, powders and other snake oil supplements is running for the US Senate seat here in PA.
The only things going for Oz are his name recognition, and a crowded field of largely unknowns.
It will be interesting to read/hear the various policy views of Oz, as well as his comments about Trump (and vice versa).
I suspect Oz will be one of the more moderate GOP candidates in the PA Senate race, which I think would help him with fundraising.
Carla Sands has been running lots of TV ads promoting her 2022 campaign (since September) that tout her alliance with Trump, and her disdain for Pelosi and AOC (to establish more name recognition for her for next year's race), and has increased her ads since Sean Parnell dropped out of the race.
Who cares about positions? The only thing that matters is if he’s the one most capable of beating the Democrat challenger.
The power of the senate rests entirely in what it can collectively do, not the individuals. So what matters is which team controls it. For now, the best chance at reducing government is in divided branches.
The clearest endorsement yet of Republican National Socialist collectivism, from Gott Mit Uns to The Common Good Before the Individual Good. Heil Drumpf!
TDS-addled pile of shit heard from. Fuck off and die, Hank.
The question is not is he fit to run, but why would people vote for him? It might be a lot to ask, but people might want to think a bit about their choice.
What an idiotic take. Look what is in Washington now Ron.
It is up to the people of the state of Pennsylvania to decide if Oz should be a Senator, not Reason. If I lived in Pennsylvania my vote would be no. He is way to "woke" for me to consider him a conservative, and he is certainly no libertarian.
is he fit? compared to who? i'd vote for a can of corn over most of those dopes. at leat dr. oz has a long career of accomplishments including HEART SURGERY! stand him next to ms. ocasio co is he fit? the voters of PA shall let us know
All the way Dr Oz! Need a Turkish man, a man of color in the Senate..opps he is "white" it doesn't count
Ronald Bailey did nothing other than paint Dr. Oz as an interesting man, an accomplished cardiac surgeon, a man who thinks outside the box, and a man who loves liberty.
So why would we want such a man elected to the U.S. Senate? Bailey sure doesn't have anything to offer but his opinion that Dr. Ox is unfit for office. Bailey doesn't understand that his opinion is of no value.
Why do journalists think their opinions matter?
Behind the curtain is the platform of the political party OzQuack endorses: We oppose school-based clinics that provide referral or counseling for abortion and contraception (1873 Comstockism)
We … urge enactment of legislation that would require parental consent for their daughter to be transported across state lines for abortion. (new Jack Johnson Black Mann Act)
FDA’s approval of Mifeprex ... threatens women’s health, as does the agency’s endorsement of over-the-counter sales of powerful contraceptives. (Ban ALL birth control)
Oz's views of medicine are no more looney than someone like Bernie's ideas on economics and he's on the senate ????
Is he any less qualified than the 100 traitors in the Senate currently?
I'll fix the subtitle: "The TV personality's extensive history of promoting dubious nostrums suggests that he will fit right into the Senate." Nearly all the Senators have an extensive history of plotting together to use force to impose questionable and counterproductive solutions to alleged problems on American citizens.
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You mean the same left that loved Trump until he put an R beside his name?
Well yeah, alternative medicine, vaccine skepticism, GMO skepticism and other pseudoscience used to be preserve of the hippy left. Now it’s the know nothing right that are the anti scientific goofballs.
How is Toomey a "spineless piece of shit republican"? He is as standard-issue Republican as they come. He just doesn't spout nonsense and try to get himself trending on social media with insane blather. Face it, you want style over substance.
False accusations of pedophilia are so awesome and edgy!
I see that Dizzle has been attending Jesse's seminars on how to troll. Well done!
Bubba made him swallow.
Pot; kettle.
"The chances of us getting clean data from the government are less than 0."
And there's the entire issue; gov't lies to follow an agenda. Any science involving it likely is flawed.
Well the tests you are talking about are screening tests, which are designed to have high sensitivity (true positive rate), usually at the expense of lowered specificity (false positive rate), because you care more about making sure you don't miss someone with the disease.
The lizard people hatched a big egg clutch recently. Hillary has been brooding.
But you're a prog, so yeah. Probably.
So you’re not going to respond to the link that completely contradicts your stance on CRT in schools? How…dishonest.
Liebertarians. Libertardians. Libertardis when they try to edit old posts.
Who’s school of ignoring evidence that disproves your position you’ve held for a year did you attend? Dee’s?
For people who don't agree with my politics, it's totally legit to baselessly accuse them of horrible crimes!