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The U.S. Imposes Travel Restrictions in Response to New COVID-19 Variant. Again.

Plus: Los Angeles will start fining businesses that don't enforce the city's vaccine passport system, Disney yanks a China-critical Simpsons episode, and more...

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The U.S. is once again imposing travel restrictions to stem the spread of yet another COVID-19 variant. Today, travel restrictions snap into place for noncitizens traveling by air from South Africa and seven other African countries in response to the spread of the newly discovered omicron variant in that region.

This new variant was discovered by South African scientists last week. The World Health Organization (WHO) classified it as a "variant of concern" on Friday.

That same day, President Joe Biden announced his latest round of travel restrictions, which he described as a "precautionary measure" that would give his administration more time to learn about the new variant.

The White House hasn't said when these travel restrictions might be lifted. Biden, in a statement issued Friday, said only that "we will continue to be guided by what the science and my medical team advises."

He encouraged people to get vaccinated or, if already vaccinated, a booster shot. The president also urged other countries to lift intellectual property protections for COVID-19 vaccines as a means of boosting the global vaccine supply.

Other countries affected by the travel restrictions include Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique, and Malawi.

The new restrictions are already producing chaos. The Washington Post reports on how canceled flights to and from the affected countries are leaving people stuck abroad or forcing them to cancel their plans to visit family.

The Post notes that the U.S. had lifted travel restrictions on 33 countries just a few weeks prior. Biden's latest move is yet another blow for the travel industry and those who had hoped that pandemic-era border controls would be a fading policy.

Dozens of other countries are also imposing restrictions on travel in the face of this new, quickly spreading variant.

Cases of people infected with the omicron variant have been reported in a number of countries, including the Netherlands, Israel, and Australia. On Sunday, Canada reported its first two omicron cases.

There are still many open questions about omicron, including how severe its symptoms are, how transmissible it is, and how well existing vaccines or prior COVID-19 infections protect people against this new variant.

The South African doctor who first noticed the omicron variant has said that all the cases she's seen have been pretty mild, reports CNBC. Disease experts who spoke to The New York Times say that omicron might be more transmissible than even the very infectious delta variant.

Pharmaceutical companies like Pfizer and Moderna are currently testing whether their existing COVID-19 vaccines are effective against the omicron variant.

Thus far, the WHO has said that it'll take several weeks before we have more clear answers to many of these questions.

Here we go again.


FREE MINDS

Los Angeles will start enforcing its vaccine passport system today. Beginning earlier this month, the Los Angeles city government has required people looking to patronize restaurants, gyms, movie theaters, and other public venues to show proof of full vaccination.

Starting Monday, businesses that don't check their customers' vaccination status will now be liable for citations and fines. A first failure to enforce the city's vaccine requirements will net a business a warning. A second violation can result in a $1,000 fine. Fines can rise as high as $5,000 for a business with four or more violations.

Los Angeles' vaccine passport system allows for medical and religious exemptions, which individual businesses will be responsible for vetting.

The threat of fines is frustrating some Los Angeles business owners.

"I have to be…the bodyguard for the city," said one restaurateur to the Los Angeles Times. "At the end of the day, we're doing their job. If I don't let people in, I don't have customers and if I don't have customers that means I don't have a business. And the rent, I have to keep paying. The permits, I have to keep paying."


QUICK HITS

• An episode of The Simpsons that references the Tiananmen Square massacre has been excluded from Disney's recently launched streaming service in Hong Kong.

• Housing shortages at California's universities are forcing some students to live in hotel rooms while they wait for more permanent accommodations. (Living in a windowless box doesn't sound so bad now, does it?)

• Actor Matthew McConaughey announces he will not run for governor of Texas.

• Politico reports that former President Donald Trump is vetting vice presidential candidates for his still-unofficial 2024 presidential campaign.

• Rep. Abigail Spanberger (D–Va.) is calling on Biden to appoint a special supply chain czar to address current shortages. That'll fix the problem.

• The island nation of Barbados throws off the oppressive yoke of monarchy.

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  1. It is debt ceiling week... again. So we will hear once again how without passage we will fail to pay our debts. Even though revenue is currently greater than outstanding debt payments. But democeats trust in the ignorance of Americans to lie to them.

    Also the proposed debt ceiling contains 5 different vaccine mandates, not really a budget item.

    Thomas Massie
    @RepThomasMassie
    Between now and Christmas, the debt limit will be reached and all appropriations for federal spending will expire.

    It takes 60 votes in the Senate to fund Biden’s agenda which includes FIVE different vaccine mandates. There are only 50 Democrats in the Senate.

    1. What are the going odds on Bitch McConnell caving again?

      1. I'd hope Schumer rubbing his nose in his own shit would disabuse that desire.

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      2. The smart move would be to tell them to use reconciliation for the debt ceiling. Remove the BBB bill. Make them responsible. That's what McConnell told them 45 days ago when they capitulated. But again, the democrats count on America's ignorance.

        1. McConnell has really one job right now- keep americans furious at the democrats until 2022, so his party can mop up in the mid-cycle elections. A showdown over the budget where the Democrats and the Media (but I repeat myself) get to shift all the blame on Republicans is not what he needs.

          Er go, I foresee McConnel pulling the same soft capitulation in a week or so.

          1. The media and dnc will do that regardless. They are already attacking the gop and the senate parliamentarian over the immigration changes on the House BBB reconciliation bill.

            The GOP needs to ignore the media full stop.

            23% of Americans trust the media at this point.

          2. I think Senator McConnell lets it happen = Team D is on their own, and will not get Team R help.

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      3. A few months ago I noticed that former speaker Boehner was a big lobbyist these days for the Marijuana industry. It is amazing how all these GOP leaders talk a big game when in office, but ultimately go wherever the money is. In this case, there is a lot of money in Pharma industry to be made from mandatory testing and vaccines.

        1. It is amazing how all these GOP leaders talk a big game when in office, but ultimately go wherever the money is.

          Hell, look at the Lincoln Project guys--a bunch of former Republicans who now want to destroy the party entirely out of spite for losing their grift there, but did manage to find a bunch of Democratic sugar daddies to bankroll them in the aftermath.

  2. "Los Angeles will start enforcing its vaccine passport system today."

    Good.

    #LibertariansFor50Californias

    1. Ha! I can beat that!

      #LibertariansFor52Californias

    2. I can beat both of youse.
      #Libertariansfor0Californias
      Break the state up, divvy the pieces out to surrounding states.

      1. No, you are not familiar with the population and demographics. If the Bay Area and LA are in one state, they get only two senators between them.
        That's enough.

  3. Kamala Harris is so terrible the Guardian has an article discussing Biden nominating her to the USSC to get her out of office.

    Telegraph World News
    @TelegraphWorld
    With Kamala Harris looking unelectable, the Democrats are considering the nuclear option.

    Whispers in Washington suggest Joe Biden's camp has a plan to find a more popular replacement ahead of the 2024 battle

    #Thread ????

    ????Evelyn Hockstein/ Reuters

    https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/11/28/kamala-harris-looking-unelectable-democrats-considering-nuclear/

    There isn't even an opening on the court. But this is how terrible she polls.

    1. I can't see how nominating her to SCOTUS is anything except tying an albatross around every D nominee's neck until she resigns.

    2. Well, I guess Harriet Miers will finally be replaced as the least competent SCOTUS nominee in history.

      1. Well, Kagan may have her beat.

        1. Roberts for the win.

    3. Maybe she will be part of a new special court, focused on border issues and peaceful protests.

    4. Head of PR for NASA would be more appropriate.

      1. Her office can be on the International Space Station. Taxi service provided by SpaceX quality control rejects.

      2. Brilliant! Unlike SCOTUS, NASA can easily make space for her! Shuttle diplomacy just might prove to be her forte!

    5. There is not an opening on the court NOW! But, I'm sure a vacancy could be arranged (like with a pillow or something).

      1. With the Heffalumps set to take over the Senate in Nov 22, will Bryer retire to allow Biden to nominate someone? Else Trump may get another shot or two.

  4. Thought for sure this thing got canceled.

  5. The U.S. is once again imposing travel restrictions to stem the spread of yet another COVID-19 variant.

    MOSTLY AFRICAN TRAVEL BAN

    1. But not at all racist because?

      1. The Omicron variant is a super predator.

      2. The hairs on Joe's legs will dazzle the Dark Continent into compliance.

    2. Biden will make sure the "darkie malarky" flu is kept apartheid from everyone else.

    3. Omicron is not well characterized. This is pure pandemic panic.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxlYyZ08cEg&ab_channel=Dr.JohnCampbell

      This guy's videos are quite good. He evaluates evidence and cites references and provides context/uncertainty. Unlike Fauci and the other 'gods of medicine.'

      1. He's got a rather alarmist bent about things in this video, at least until his summation. By the looks of it, this event will affirm what many of us have been pointing out for a while: the best (i.e. most protection for lowest risk) course of action for an individual is to be vaccinated and then be exposed/infected. Continuing to isolate post-vaccination is counterproductive, as your body will eventually be exposed to a pathogen for which it is not prepared to handle.

        The origin of Omicron (if accurately reported here) should moot out any idea that a vaccine mandate is going to do a goddamn thing. For the zero-COVID nutters and other variant-phobes: if you really want to stamp out any further risk of emerging variants then you basically need to nuke all of Southern Africa for your forced vaccination wet dreams to have the desired effect. Good luck with that, you monsters.

    4. "[In addition to South Africa] the travel restrictions include Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique, and Malawi."

      Mostly?

      So either the variant is racist, or the travel ban is. Regardless scientific consensus demands that they should both be cancelled.

      1. That list is OK as long as you don't say "Shit-hole Countries".

  6. Teachers continue their goodwill outreach to parents by trying to shut down schools over teacher burnouts.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/parents-dismayed-over-school-cancellations-over-teacher-burnout

    The race between media and teachers to be the biggest pieces of shit continues.

    1. The race between media and teachers to be the biggest pieces of shit continues.

      Teachers win because it is the last 50+ years of indoctrination they have engaged in that have lead to the collapse of critical thought that allows propaganda to run rampant.

    2. I can see how a job with three months a year off could lead to total burnout.

      1. I love when teachers claim they work harder than any other profession. But then you go to BLS and look at self reported surveys and they on average work just over 30 hours a week.

        1. I know a bunch of teachers. Every single one of them is a real nice person who I call friends. But to a man, each one of them has a very significant blind spot: They spend all day teaching children, and therefore measure their own effort against those kids. I had a deep talk with one of them a few years back, and they were complaining about how they had to spend the weekend grading papers during finals week. I had very little sympathy given the 2 weeks in India and 3 weeks of on-call with nearly constant outages in the run up to Black Friday/Cyber Monday. At least among my circle of teachers, they really think that having to do some work at home is unusual for white collar workers. *shrug*

          1. And some times they have to spend their own money on supplies! That’s unheard of!

          2. In college I worked at a campus bar. Campus was near a middle school and a high school. Every day about 10 teachers sat at the bar grading papers while drinking complaing how much work they had. Usually done by 4 pm.

            Now most teachers get teaching aids online doing very little prep themselves.

          3. There need to be a special name for the hell that people in IT go through during the weekend between black Friday and cyber Monday.

            1. Yes. How about “tough crap”?

            2. It has a name, it's called "crunch", but not all of the IT profession has crunch at the same time. Retail IT does it during black friday weekend. Finance has it between Christmas and New Years and/or April 15th. It's that time when management realizes they promised to do X, Y, and Z and only had time to do X. Now their underlings have two weeks to do Y before they catch hell for not doing Z.

              1. Game development crunch is the biggest hell, 6 month of crunch every 2-4 years followed by getting laid off for your trouble.

              2. 3/15 and 9/15 are the big dates in a lot of corporate accounting. The preceding month or two is not pleasant.

            3. "There need to be a special name for the hell that people in IT go through during the weekend between black Friday and cyber Monday."

              Typically, that weekend is fine, because of change moratoriums. It is the few weeks before when all the features preparing for the holidays get super bad.

              But...But...I was paid mad bank to handle that shit. I have no complaints. I just don't have sympathy for people who think some take home work is a problem- especially when that work is always plannable, and never a surprise (like a 12am outage is).

              1. The previous 2 years this weekend was hell due to someone at AWS fking something up. Luckily AWS didn't fk anything up this year.

          4. When I was 10 I keep getting in trouble at school for acting out, I told my parents it was because I was smarter than all of my teachers, now I know I was right

            1. The average teacher has an IQ of about 95, so 55% of the students have more ability. Don't get too proud of yourself.

          5. When teachers stop giving students work outside of school, I’ll start to care a little more about their having to grade that work outside of school.

        2. But those are tough 30 hours. I would not like the job of dealing with young smart-asses whom you cannot paddle or even make a slightly denigrating remark to. And the parents! Always at least 25% assholes who think their little Suzy or Mohammed deserves special treatment, not to mention telling you how to teach. Not to mention the administration who hire numerous 'specialists' and 'gender protectors' and other helpers, so that the Admin outnumbers teachers. And of course the teachers' union who protect your incompetent colleagues whom you would kill if it were legal.

          I'd much rather deal with adults. ..... sort of

          1. I have to work with supply chain often. Kids are nothing.

            1. It's not the kids. It's the administrators and the parents you have to worry about. Micromanagement is a big deal, as the teacher is ramrodded into lesson plans that they cannot control, forced to pass kids that do not work, and then the teacher takes all the blame when standardized test scores are not sufficient.

              Kids only become a problem when they become violent and realize that you cannot stop them. Most teachers can cut that off before it gets to that level.

              1. Thats not true. Teachers are given an outline and state requirements and allowed to create teaching aids. There is an entire industry built around that.

                1. I have no idea what district you teach for my friend, but if you have decent management that enables you control, you aren't having the same burnout issues that my family is having

                  1. Lol. God damn. Didn't know i was dealing with a biased fool. You don't have to be a teacher to understand how teaching works. My God.

                    I have 2 family members who teach. I talk to them. I have seen the teachers aid industries, they are public.

                    Not all school districts are the same.

                    Youre showing the arrogance of teachers.

          2. Sort of the same argument against having a pet.

          3. Most teachers don't know how to teach, and don't know the subject matters, most of them buy prepackaged lesson plans, and regurgitate.

    3. Most of the burnout is in the poorer districts, where the teachers are given the impossible task of teaching children high school classes, when a substantial fraction of the the students cannot read (whether recent immigrants who only speak Swahili or the school system has just failed them that much). As often as not, the teacher is then bullied into passing the child, even if they still cannot read or haven't done a single assignment. One of my family had to fight to fail a child whom she didn't even recognize because they hadn't shown up for class even one day out of ten.

      Also, you have administration that demands absolute respect and authority while not giving them resources required by law and undermining the teachers at every turn. (How do you teach a cooking class when you don't even have a sink or a hot plate? What about when there isn't a working fire extinguisher or AED in the building?)

      I will admit that some teachers are just over-entitle Karens. Those are in every profession, and they tend to be the loudest and attract the most attention. However, teachers wouldn't be quitting stable, decent-paying salaried positions left and right if their jobs were as cushy as y'all are saying.

      1. Also, you have administration

        Which the teachers and their union lobbied for and empower.

        Teachers created the gigantic bloat in public education over the last 40+ years. There was a time when teachers shared the administrative duties.

        1. I don't know where you were, but the teachers I know have resented the growing encroachment on their functions over the years and decades. They want the autonomy to actually just teach their dang class. The bloat came from the political echelons, which added more layers upon layers over time.

          Now, there was some oversight that was necessary, as school variation in our grandparent's day varied from excellent to barely teaching reading, but we can agree that we could probably cut two out of three department of education and district-level employees before any loss of function is noticeable.

          1. we can agree that we could probably cut two out of three department of education and district-level employees before any loss of function is noticeable

            We can agree, but the unions will never allow that to happen. Teachers traded marginally less work and better benefits for the soul of public education.

          2. Do those teachers you know still pay union dues after Janus? Years before that decision you'd be right but now that teachers have the option of paying union dues, well you get what you pay for.

            1. Also is Janus actually being observed in your/their state? I know some states did everything they could to keep it from being implemented.

              Sidebar: Love to see an article at a libertarian website about the effects of Janus now that it has been in affect for a number of years. Major ruling that doesn't get

              1. Love to see an article at a libertarian website about the effects of Janus now that it has been in affect for a number of years. Major ruling that doesn't get enough attention.

                Word.

      2. The reality is that public schools have failed spectacularly. Their only consistent contribution to civilization in the last 20 years has been to provide someplace for kids to go while mom and dad go to work. Now they won't even do that.

        1. That is the fundamental disconnect between what most of the public wants, and what the education industry wants. Sure, everyone wants "all of the above", but if forced to choose between M to F, 9 to 5 kid warehouses without learning, and some stay at home approach with excellent education outcomes (it such a thing existed), the majority of families would be dropping kids at the warehouse door.

          1. I'm not sure they'd have a lot of choice, given that feeding all the kids requires both parents to work in many situations. :-\

        2. Yeah, that's pretty much what it boils down to. Now that homeschooling is on the rise, and families are discovering they can get by on one income,

          The teachers whining about not wanting to go back to the school because they were "afraid" of getting sick probably ended up fucking themselves in the end. School districts are losing money like crazy due to COVID and cultural Marxist-related pullouts. A bunch of women realizing that 1) they actually like staying home with the kids and 2) Feminism is nothing more than penis envy as a political movement, is going to be the death knell for a lot of schools.

  7. Los Angeles will start enforcing its vaccine passport system today.

    Bureaucrat jobs program.

    1. Nope. Government mandated (but not supported) vigilantes.

      1. You misspelled "Joe Biden".

        1. Indeed I did. Oops.

  8. "Politico reports that former President Donald Trump is vetting vice presidential candidates for his still-unofficial 2024 presidential campaign."

    LOL

    How can he even run in 2024 when Mr. Buttplug told me he's going to prison soon?

    #BlueWave2024

    1. The walls are closing in! But, w/ more all-caps and such.

    2. Moar bold text needed.

    3. OBL....What's your take on the racist travel ban that POTUS Biden is putting into place? How is this different from Orange Man Bad?

      #ConfusedWokesterNeedsHelpUnderstanding

      1. An excellent question, and I wish he would give you an answer.

        But seeing as no one else wants to address a ban that solely impacts countries of the African sub continent, I would say it is because the right people are doing it, so it HAS to be based on science!

        But any further inquiry as to this obvious conclusion will be remanded to the misinformation bin of conspiracy theorists along with such notions as COVID coming from a lab!

  9. An episode of The Simpsons that references the Tiananmen Square massacre has been excluded from Disney's recently launched streaming service in Hong Kong.

    South Park already did it. (Mohammed episode.)

    1. South Park referenced Tiananmen Square in the Mohammed episode? Wow, that's edgy.

  10. First Australia and their "acceptable" quarantine camps (right sarc and Mike). But other countries also have forced quarantine.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/couple-arrested-omicron-netherlands

    Netherlands is now arresting people for not subjecting themselves. Again, over a disease with 99.9% survival and most people have no bad outcomes.

    1. Never let a good imaginary crises go to waste.

    2. Concern trolls will be along shortly to say you post is invalid because the survival rate is really 99.7%.

      1. 99.9999% if you are under 18.

  11. Canada releases 50 million pounds from maple syrup reserve amid global shortage

    The consortium of more than 11,000 Canadian maple syrup producers said this week that a warmer- and shorter-than-expected spring led to a 24 percent year-over-drop in production of the pancake topping.

    Amid surging demand for syrup as more people cook at home amid the pandemic, the cartel has been forced to tap a whopping 50 million pounds of syrup from its strategic reserve.

    https://nypost.com/2021/11/26/canada-releases-50-million-pounds-from-maple-syrup-stockpile/

    BIDEN HATES MAPLE! HE DONE SHUT THE MAPLE PIPELINE OFF!

    1. Excellent work.

      #DefendBidenAtAllCosts

    2. Do you get tired for stanning for Biden?

      1. Mr. Buttplug's basic approach is #DefendEstablishmentDemocratsAtAllCosts.

        I wasn't around during the Obama Era, but I heard his typical comment from 2009 to 2016 went something like HEY PEANUTS CAN YOU BELIEVE HOW AMAZING THIS OBAMA ECONOMY IS???? DON'T LOOK AT GDP GROWTH. INSTEAD LOOK AT WARREN BUFFETT'S NET WORTH! IT WENT UP THIS WEEK!

        If he maintained that for 8 years there's no reason to think he'd get bored of defending Biden in just 10 months.

        #LibertariansForBiden

        1. You learn well, grasshopper. Wax on!

      2. Not as long as the checks keep clearing.

    3. When will they make a release from the critical spittin’ tobaccy reserve?
      It’s the only way to stem the tide of this crushing 10¢ inflation.

      1. Haperinflation! 🙂

    4. Unlike when an old idiot stopped a hugely necessary pipeline transporting both Canadian AND American oil, nobody is cutting off the supply of maple syrup.

      Do you ever get tired of looking retarded, Buttplug?

      1. Not as long as the checks keep clearing.

      2. "Signs point to No."

        Damn, that Magic 8-Ball is good!

      3. Keystone XL was only 8% constructed, you foolish Canuck.

        Maple production is down 24% (like our oil production).

        It's not inflation - it is supply and demand. You Peanuts need Econ 101.

        1. Supply and demand? Unpossible! Market factors like investments and prices are selfish decisions by greedy corporations.

          1. There is no demand for Buttplug's retardation, yet he continually supplies us with it anyway. :-\

        2. "Keystone XL was only 8% constructed"

          "Only"? that's a fuck of a lot for a project thousands and thousands of miles long.
          Not only that but it was 10 years delayed, and the North American pipeline network would be still under capacity when completed.

          Also, the Keystone would have transported more value in a single day than the global maple syrup market could produce in a decade.

          Do you ever get tired of looking retarded, Buttplug?

    5. Aunt Jemima hardest hit.

    6. turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
      turd should fuck off and die.

    7. Real Americans use artificially flavored high fructose corn syrup. Nothing is more patriotic than corn syrup.

      1. Canadian syrup has antifreeze in it. Buy American!

    1. Disney: how to be evil while looking fun and friendly. Also, no balls.

      1. Remember how they had to photoshop out the Uighur concentration camps from their Mulan movie?

      2. Mickey et al have never had balls. Fritz, on the other hand, ....

  12. As Biden continues to try to appease Iran, Iran makes it clear destruction of Isreal is not off the table and won't be.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/as-biden-resumes-nuclear-talks-iran-declares-we-will-not-back-off-from-the-annihilation-of-israel

    1. A lot of Democrats hate the "Zionist entity" too, so this might be win-win for old Joe.

  13. Yes Hunter Biden had and still has a lot of business in China.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/exclusive-hunter-bidens-allegedly-lucrative-arrangement-with-china-energy-fund-committee

    Hopefully this information gets taken down as misinformation like any negative story about the Bidens.

    1. Hunter Biden had and still has a lot of business in China.

      Opium dens?

      1. With the British MoD as a helping sponsor.

  14. Housing shortages at California's universities are forcing some students to live in hotel rooms while they wait for more permanent accommodations.

    I hope the Democrats are planning in BBB to reimburse them for this, at least.

  15. Still not convinced literally every institution in the United States is poisoned from the top down by WHITE SUPREMACY?

    Jussie Smollett's trial starts today.

    He was the victim of an attempted modern-day lynching — and now HE is the one on trial?! Our so-called "justice" system is so obviously racist.

    #IBelieveJussie
    #BLM

    1. He made a poor decision to walk around the streets of Chicago armed with a sandwich.

      1. Please tell me it wasn’t a Cuban sandwich.

        1. They don't have those in Maine apparently.

          1. Lobstah roll for the win.

        2. This joke just won't get old.

    2. NPR did 5 minutes this morning on why Smollett may be innocent. They fully detailed all of his allegations. They had zero coverage of the 8 year-old kid that died in the aftermath of the Christmas parade SUV massacre. It happened on Tuesday last week and a lot of people probably missed it because of the holiday.

      They also didn't mention that justice was served in the Arbery killing. Anything that does not fit the narrative must be memory-holed.

      1. NPR is more than ever like that weird ex-girlfriend who has joined a cult and earnestly tells everyone about it.

        1. We're at the point where the left is wearing NPR as a skinsuit and demanding respect because of what they used to be. Just like the ACLU.

          1. "It puts the donation in the basket or it gets the hose!"

        2. We had the same ex girlfriend? Man I hate her.

    3. Them's that Smollett, dealt it.

  16. Actor Matthew McConaughey announces he will not run for governor of Texas.

    That's what he loves about Texas. He keeps getting Hollywooder but it stays the same red.

    1. George Washington was in a cult, and the cult was into aliens, man.

  17. Politico reports that former President Donald Trump is vetting vice presidential candidates for his still-unofficial 2024 presidential campaign.

    Can't they just put her in the basement to campaign? It worked for Joe.

    1. Gary Johnson! Do it, Don!

  18. Rep. Abigail Spanberger (D–Va.) is calling on Biden to appoint a special supply chain czar to address current shortages.

    One who won't immediately go on paternity leave?

    1. Biden creates special supply chain scapegoat czar... position sits unfilled 24 mos.

      1. They're still trying to get the shipping container for that Czar through the Port of LA from the ship out of Russia.

    2. How about a czar to keep track of all these czars?

    3. The job is so complicated that Pete can only handle the racism aspects.

    4. It'll work out about as well as The Poverty Czar, the Drug Czar, the Education Czar, the Gun Czar, the Reality Czar...

      1. Biden needs to name a Czar of the Stool. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groom_of_the_Stool

  19. The White House hasn't said when these travel restrictions might be lifted. Biden, in a statement issued Friday, said only that "we will continue to be guided by what the science and my medical team advises."

    If anyone was curious how lysenkoism was pushed for years.

    1. I keep pointing out how Fauci is practicing lysenkoism to stay in power. He proved it again with another "I am the science" in an interview.

      "the term has come to be identified as any deliberate distortion of scientific facts or theories for purposes that are deemed politically, religiously or socially desirable."

      Tell me Fauci isn't doing that.

      1. I AM THE SENATE!

        Anthony Fauci Palpatine

        1. I AM THE WALRUS!

          - Paul

          1. "Dude I sang that one."

            ~~John

            1. He also sang "Sitting on a Glass Onion" where he admits it.

              1. Eric Burdon says *he* is the Eggman.

                1. "LOOKING THROUGH a Glass Onion"

                  That was a little bit Freudian.

                  1. Coo coo cachoo

                  2. That was a little bit Freudian.

                    If you Imagine a shallot. I grew up near Walla Walla.

  20. The island nation of Barbados throws off the oppressive yoke of monarchy.

    Enjoy your three thousand new tyrants one mile away.

    1. Old Queen Elizabeth sure was a tyrant.
      I wonder if they're tossing off all the British subsidies too?

    2. The Governor-General becomes the president, who has been elected despite not having a constitution.

      Nothing seems to have substantially changed, other than titles and symbols. They did not even seem to be leaving the British Commonwealth. It is not much to be excited or upset about.

  21. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/he-should-pay-his-crimes-asu-students-demand-expulsion-kyle-rittenhouse

    It does that matter that there was evidence supporting Rittenhouse’s claim of self-defense that was largely missing from prior coverage of the case. Now students and groups at Arizona State University are planning a rally and demanding that Rittenhouse be expelled. With leaders like President Biden calling Rittenhouse a “white supremacist” before any investigation was completed and legal analysts calling the entire trial “white supremacy on steroids,” there is a sense of legitimacy in demanding such extrajudicial punishments.

    1. It would be funny to watch ASU sift through its admissions records for OWI and public intox convictions and toss those people out.

    2. This seems counterproductive unless the goal is to make Rittenhouse a very rich man from all the libel lawsuits.

      1. He'll be able to hire a bodyguard to carry his AR-15.

        Ain't America great!

      2. If Sandmann's case is any indicator, he should be able to win enough from their defamation to skip college altogether and retire.

        Maybe he can start a company manufacturing AR-15 lowers that say "all lives matter", that would be fun. Or "Anti-fascist". Delicious

        1. I'm not a big fan of ARs and I would definitely buy a "Rittenhouse Defense Industries" ALM AR lower.

          1. "I'm not a big fan of ARs.."

            Are you one of those FN guys?

            1. Yeah.

              FALs and AKs.

              I mean, I *have* an AR just because it makes sense for compatibility reasons, but the platform is a little fussy for my tastes.

      3. Due to the fact that Rittenhouse has given interviews/comments to media, prior to and after his trial, he is liable to face the same issue that Zimmerman did: being declared a public figure and thus having his lawsuits dismissed. Not how I want it to go, but you all might want to pay attention to what is, and not merely your dreams of punishing the people you don't like (even though your disdain for them is well deserved)

  22. "The U.S. is once again imposing travel restrictions to stem the spread of yet another COVID-19 variant. Today, travel restrictions snap into place for noncitizens traveling by air from South Africa and seven other African countries in response to the spread of the newly discovered omicron variant in that region."

    I guess this was not xenophobia. Could have sworn Biden says this exact thing was.

    1. That was then, this is now. Besides, it’s mostly blacks from Africa, so not racist.

      1. They probably aren’t clean and articulate enough anyway.

  23. "Starting Monday, businesses that don't check their customers' vaccination status will now be liable for citations and fines."

    Curious how the state can demand private enterprises enforce their edicts.

    Then again, LA voted, overwhelmingly, for the cunts in control there, so fuck 'em.

    1. They do for tobacco and alcohol purchases.

      1. The state generally sends in agents posing as underage to verify they are in compliance. They don't get fined for suspected cases.

        1. They might well do the same here. Wait until someone complains about not being vax carded, send an agent to the location, bust them if they don't card the agent or the agent sees them not card someone else.

          1. But isnt the id requirement for tobacco and alcohol tied to their licenses? What food license requires verifying ID?

            1. I'm not defending it. But the mechanism for LA to be cunts here seems pretty straightforward.

              I mean, really, it's a lot like the mask mandates where local and state governments were threatening fines to stores that didn't demand that shoppers wear them.

              It's crap, but it's also clearly something that they're likely to get away with because we've let 'em turn the heat up on this frog boiling pot almost all the way. Or who knows, maybe this will finally be the straw that makes the business owners of LA throw down their chains.

              I don't believe I'm going to hold my breath waiting for that, though. :-\

            2. It's all businesses, too. What retail license ties this? What dry cleaner's licenses?

              Not that LA cares. They're the same people who knew restaurants didn't contribute to spread and, yet, closed even outdoor dining while allowing movie productions to set up catering tents in the parking lots of the now-closed restaurants. LA has always sucked, but they suck way harder now.

    2. Well, they are not funding the policing of this.

  24. "Housing shortages at California's universities are forcing some students to live in hotel rooms while they wait for more permanent accommodations. (Living in a windowless box doesn't sound so bad now, does it?)"

    Weird how progressivism is all for affordable housing yet blue states have the hardest time generating that.

    1. Weird how socialism is all for affordable housing yet socialist countries have the hardest time generating that.

      1. Come on, man! We all know it's the fault of the Kulaks, hoarders and wreckers!

    2. 9 out of 10 Proggies agree that Howard Roark is the worst Ayn Rand villain. Efficient affordable public housing must be obtained at all cost or none.

      1. Well, Howard was kind of a rapist.

        Back when that was cool….. haha.

  25. https://nypost.com/2021/11/29/joe-biden-expected-10-percent-cut-in-deal-with-a-chinese-giant/

    Confirming shit we knew before the election, Biden was getting 10% in a deal with Chinese company.

    1. Most transparent administration ever.

  26. The Cold War 2.0 is starting up--for reals--this time in the Pacific. The Solomon Islands appear to be splitting in two, much like the way Yemen split in two during the Cold War, with one side backed by the Soviet Union and the other by the U.S. and its allies. The split in the Solomon Islands is over old ethnic tensions, of course, but it's being sparked by the government there backing China, and the people on its largest island backing the United States.

    "Sogavare has been widely criticized by leaders of the country's most populous island of Malaita for a 2019 decision to drop diplomatic ties with Taiwan in favor of mainland China. His government, meanwhile, has been upset over millions in U.S. aid promised directly to Malaita, rather than through the central government."

    ----ABC News

    https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/solomon-islands-violence-recedes-underlying-tension-81403314

    The people of the island of Malaita rioted for two days, burning down most of what there was of Chinatown on the island. The Australians and their allies have sent troops to Malaita (with support from their allies in the region) under the auspices of quelling the rioting. The people of Malaita are sure to declare their independence soon.

    This was standard CIA stuff during the Cold War 1.0. Lines are being drawn up in the Pacific now like they were in the Middle East, Africa, South America, and elsewhere during Cold War 1.0. Taiwan is the new West Berlin. Hong Kong is the new Czechoslovakia. Biden is the new Jimmy Carter. Cold War 2.0 is complicated because of our financial and trade relationship with China, but Emperor Xi has shown himself to be eager to close off ties between China and western investment in recent months--killing his own tech companies going public in western markets and popping his own property bubble.

    This isn't shaping up well.

    1. It is not shaping up well, at all. War is coming.

      1. What war? You think Biden's going to fight his paymaster? You think this Congress is?

        1. Fats, China and the US will go 'toe to toe' soon. We might not have a choice of 'not fighting' when that happens.

    2. Tensions are rising on the Ukraine-Russia border as well. Biden is basically going “all-in” for Ukraine (and Taiwan). Maybe the new infrastructure bill can include some bomb shelters.

  27. "Housing shortages at California's universities are forcing some students to live in hotel rooms while they wait for more permanent accommodations. (Living in a windowless box doesn't sound so bad now, does it?)"

    I dunno. Does the university pay for room service?

    1. Does the university pay for room service?

      *checks endowments and student loan balances*

      Nope.

    2. They may soon have to share those rooms with the millions of Guatahondunicaradorians FJB invited in.

  28. "Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey is expected to step down from his executive role, sources tell CNBC’s David Faber.

    Twitter stock jumped more than 11% on the news."

    ----CNBC

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/29/twitter-ceo-jack-dorsey-is-expected-to-step-down-sources-say.html

    Notice, Dorsey is the CEO of two different companies, Twitter and digital payments company Square. Notice which one he's leaving and which one he'll still be the CEO of? His bet does not appear to be on Twitter.

    "The company said earlier this year it aims to have 315 million monetizable daily active users by the end of 2023 and to at least double its annual revenue in that year."

    ----Ibidem

    I wouldn't want to be forced to try and make good on that promise either. Facebook has renamed itself Meta, in large part, because it's losing the demographic race for young users to TikTok and Snapchat, and Meta's Instagram does as well or better than Twitter at attracting younger users away from TikTok and Snapchat, too. Still, Twitter is supposed to add another 50% to its userbase and double its revenue over the next two years?! If I were Dorsey, I'd rather be the CEO of a digital payments company, too. Before I can be persuaded to buy Twitter stock from a current owner, they'd need to explain what they know about Twitter's future that Jack Dorsey doesn't know.

    The best argument for Twitter right now may be that Jack Dorsey will no longer be in charge.

    1. Twitter is busy shooting itself in the face trying to be a propaganda arm of the DNC. It's rapidly becoming MySpace 2.0, but with more media paying attention to what idiots on the site are saying.

      1. Younger users don't care about that very much.

        Younger users appear to be avoiding both Twitter and Instagram because of the woke culture. When kids today complain about bullying online, they aren't complaining about being made fun of because they're effeminate or obese. They're being bullied by woke mobs of fellow students for saying something that wasn't woke.

        Messages in Snapchat don't last long enough for a mob to form. What you say disappears, so you can't get bullied for it by anybody and everybody in your school.

        You can't have Twitter the way it is without woke mobs forming. Twitter is designed to bring groups of outraged people together and focus their outrage on the people who outrage them. Advertisers mostly care about younger consumers--because they haven't formed strong bonds to consumer products yet. Subscriber growth, likewise, is about appealing to younger demographics. You have to replace the people who die with new consumers.

        Younger kids don't want to volunteer themselves to be the targets of woke mobs, and Twitter is all about creating woke mobs, outraging them, and directing them to their targets. In order for Twitter to thrive over time, under those circumstances, they need to stop being Twitter. You don't win over time by both being a blight on society and unenjoyable. Even opioid addiction feels good for a while. Twitter makes you feel like taking a shower and forgetting you were ever there.

        1. This is information on social media use by age demographics is fascinating:

          https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2021/04/07/social-media-use-in-2021/pi_2021-04-07_social-media_0-02a/

          That information explains pretty much everything that's happening with social media today.

          They're only tracking 18-29 years olds, no one younger than that, but the trends are more extreme as you get younger. Facebook doesn't become increasingly unpopular as you get younger--only to suddenly explode in popularity with teenagers.

          Anyway, the percentage difference between the youngest demographic and the oldest demographic on Snapchat is 63%.

          65% of users between 18-29 say they use Snapchat.
          2% of users between 65+ say they use Snapchat.

          The difference is 63%.

          42% of users between 18-29 say they use Twitter
          7% of users between 65+ say they use Twitter

          The difference is 35%.

          And like I said, the numbers are even more extreme for teens. The future is Snapchat rather than Twitter. Kids aren't going on Twitter, and neither are their friends. Their friends are going on Snapchat.

        2. > Messages in Snapchat don't last long enough for a mob to form. What you say disappears, so you can't get bullied for it by anybody and everybody in your school.

          My memories of bullying from middle school don't jive with that. I recall any number of times that things I hadn't even said were bandied about for weeks (and occasionally made reappearances months later) as irrefutable proof that I was gay. Which was, of course, the worst possible thing a 13 year old boy could be in 1990. I suppose these days you'd probably be bullied for insisting that you weren't gay because it was insulting to gays.

          1. You understand it would be much worse if the thing you said was available on social media for other people in your school to comment on for weeks afterwards, right?

            1. Speaking of things being available forever, the new CEO of Twitter might have to roll back some super racist tweets he made there.

              https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1465364032559325187

            2. My point was that bullying didn't even depend on the statement in question even having actually been made.

              The fact that I had not actually offered to take another male student's virginity in the 8th grade was orthogonal to whether I got mocked for notionally having done so.

              I mean, sure. The vicious little shits can undoubtedly twist anything anyone actually did say, and I can see why there might be a preference for a forum that leaves no evidence. But I also don't see it being necessary for that trail to exist for bullying to occur.

              It's also possible that I've got a skewed viewpoint here. Mid 4th grade through high school graduation was basically miserable for me.

        3. Yep! They'll go somewhere where they can be left alone.

    2. Ken, more ammo regarding "stupid"; according to this guy, it's BAD!
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww47bR86wSc

      1. And so often we validate stupidity online--even with its association.

        Lot of us would never associate in real life with some of the stupid people we respond to online. Lots of poorly dressed, underpaid, and unsophisticated people are quite intelligent. I associate with people like that all the time. I've worked with smart landscapers, truck drivers, waitresses, janitors, and fast food workers. In fact, I've had jobs like that myself!

        In real life, you minimize the time you spend talking to idiots--even the ones that work with you on the other side of the restaurant as you bus tables for a living. When you encounter idiots on public transportation, and they start talking to you, you avoid them as much as possible and you ignore them if you can.

        Online, for some reason, all that goes out the window when an idiot stranger walks up to you and starts saying something stupid. I have a spam filter on my email program to keep out stupid emails from princes in Nigeria who need help getting their money out of the country. I look at caller ID before I answer the phone to see if it's someone I recognize--to avoid having to interact with what amounts to an idiot. Why do we feel it necessary to interact with idiots online?

        These idiots almost certainly feel validated by out interactions. They wouldn't be able to interact with intelligent people in real life. Intelligent people avoid stupid people in real life because they're smart! We should be doing the same thing online.

        1. This is why I've advocated for years that no one responds to Tony. And I'm grateful for the mute function for saving me from the temptation to pimp-slap him with my gigantic frontal lobe when he says something profoundly moronic.

          1. It doesn't take a gigantic frontal lobe for that. Tony can't tell the difference between aggression and non-aggression. He isn't qualified to have an opinion on cheese sauce, let alone law or politics.

        2. Yes Ken, the only possible explanation for someone to disagree with you is that they're stupid. And if someone does disagree with you, there's no point in persuading them because they're stupid.

          We know.

          1. In your case he is correct.

          2. Meanwhile, one of the big markers of stupidity is not listening to anyone who disagrees with you. A practice Ken engages in with gusto.

            1. Why should he? Anyone who disagrees with him is stupid, subhuman, retarded, and otherwise worthless. Might as well take them out back and shoot them. Nobody who matters will miss them.

              1. You just described yourself.

              2. That is literally half your posts, you incredible hypocrite.

            2. I'm sure the trolls will say that we are stupid because we don't listen to them, but that's because the trolls do not distinguish between an argument against a person and an argument against what a person says.

              Just like the leftists they hate, they consider ad hominems to be persuasive arguments.

              1. Let's scroll back up and see if sarc ever addressed an actual argument that anyone made. Nope.

                What you are doing is called P-R-O-J-E-C-T-I-O-N, asshat. You are literally making Ken's point for him right here.

                1. What he's doing is called L-Y-I-N-G. Old sarcasmic knows he's being deliberately dishonest about Ken, but the attention and headpats from White Mike are just too delicious for him to pass on.

              2. Every argument of yours in this thread so far sans one was about a person dummy.

            3. Projection? I mean you two idiots have muted anyone pointing out how flawed your beliefs are.

              1. Projection? I mean you two idiots have muted anyone pointing out how flawed your beliefs are.

                That someone who brags about the length of his mute list could write this is extremely impressive:

                Meanwhile, one of the big markers of stupidity is not listening to anyone who disagrees with you.

                1. I mute people who make personal attacks instead of arguments. I've got no problem arguing ideas. But when every sentence contains "you" it ceases to be an argument about ideas and becomes something about me personally. So I mute the morons.

                  1. Liar. He muted me because I muted him for gaslighting. When he announced he muted me, I unmuted him, because without all the gaslighting, I only have to post once to refute his logical fallacies.

                    White Mike muted me at nearly the exact same time. What a coincidence.

                    1. Um, yes. *COUGH Coincidence. *COUGH

                  2. Read the thread dummy. It is all you've done. You're such a hypocrite.

                  3. Fair enough; getting trolled is annoying and it's best not to seek out that kind of attention.

                    I personally don't care for status games, especially in a place as irrelevant as H&R, but Mike has made it a point of publicly muting people who forcefully disagree with him and then bragging about how much gray space he sees on the screen. Coming in and accusing Ken, a dude that writes novellas in response to fifty-center troll bait, of living in a bubble when Mike regularly does that... it's like he's trying to validate his own critics' complaints about him.

                    If you care about arguing ideas, that's not a good way to get the focus back on them.

                    1. When someone forcefully disagrees with things you never said nor did, what do you do? Attempting to clarify and have an honest conversation is impossible, because they will tell you you're wrong about what you think. They know better. So again, what do you do? I say mute them.

                    2. And, contrary to popular belief, I don't log out and read all the comments. The reason I have these asshats on mute is because I don't care. Though I'm sure this comment will garner many replies of "You're wrong sarc, you read everything!" as in telling me what I say, what I do, what I think, and telling me I'm wrong when I disagree. Which is why I muted them in the first place.

                    3. So again, what do you do? I say mute them.

                      The reason I have these asshats on mute is because I don't care.

                      Go ahead and mute them. But bragging about that fact and regularly commiserating with the guys whose sole purpose in life seems to be trolling the board's conservative element just reeks of hypocrisy, if not outright dishonesty.

                      It's pretty easy to avoid things you don't actually want to discuss. You want to talk about ideas? Just fucking do it and stop whining so much.

                    4. But bragging about that fact

                      That's always in response to something. It isn't something I just initiate.

                      regularly commiserating with the guys whose sole purpose in life seems to be trolling the board's conservative element

                      The "conservative element" from what I can tell sees no difference between libertarians and progressives. You're one of us or one of them. So yeah I commiserate with the few libertarians on the board. Shoot me. Doesn't make me the leftist that the trolls say I am.

                      It's pretty easy to avoid things you don't actually want to discuss.

                      The reason I have these people on mute is because I feel a need to defend myself when they lie about me. But that's a fool's endeavor. If I have them on mute then I don't have the temptation to waste time trying to set the record straight.

                    5. "And, contrary to popular belief, I don't log out and read all the comments. The reason I have these asshats on mute is because I don't care"

                      Last week I wrote that sarcasmic logs out to read all the comments, and then tries to reply to them surreptitiously. I also wrote that sarcasmic loudly proclaims he's muted people to punish them. While everyone else mutes him and Mike because they don't care what they have to say.

                      And now here is sarcasmic repeating my post almost word for word in the negative.

                      So much for not peeking.

                      Not even Hihn was this pathetic.

                    6. How is you advertising your mute list or encouraging others to mute people aggravated by people you've claimed to already have muted?

                      Youre so dishonest sarc.

                    7. What I don’t see here is your expressing any concern for the abusive behavior of people like JesseAz or Mother’s Lament. Anyone I have muted it is because they regularly engage in personal attacks.

                    8. What I don’t see here is your expressing any concern for the abusive behavior of people like JesseAz or Mother’s Lament.

                      Probably because you're lying. I go after you when you're being purposefully dishonest or trolling and harassing people like Ken. An activity you have even admitted to:

                      Mike Laursen
                      September.18.2021 at 11:38 am
                      SQRLSY, can you cover for me today? In a typical day, I usually:
                      – post a comment or two pointing out logical flaws, contradictions and partisanship in Ken’s essays, which he regards as examples of flawless logical thinking
                      – post a comment or two pointing out that Ashli Babbitt was not a saint and the January 6th MAGA rioters were violent
                      – post one “Fuck Tulpa!” comment

                    9. Last week I wrote that sarcasmic logs out to read all the comments, and then tries to reply to them surreptitiously. I also wrote that sarcasmic loudly proclaims he's muted people to punish them. While everyone else mutes him and Mike because they don't care what they have to say.

                      Mike's already inadvertently confirmed that he unmutes me by quoting my exact words in separate posts, and then there was the hilarious incident where he went off on long-time poster Alan Vanneman as if he didn't know who he was.

                      The "muting" on his part is clearly just a passive-aggressive way of building a hugbox.

                    10. Last week I wrote that sarcasmic logs out to read all the comments, and then tries to reply to them surreptitiously. I also wrote that sarcasmic loudly proclaims he's muted people to punish them.

                      Interesting. Great example of why I mute certain jackasses. Because both of those assertions are false.

                    11. So I could respond to the assertion that I log out and read stuff (as if anyone could possibly know or prove that), I can read lies about me and let them go unchallenged, or I can keep the master baiter on mute. I choose mute.

                    12. “trolling the board's conservative element”

                      Arguing against the conservative echo chamber that has infested a supposedly libertarian website is not trolling.

                2. Take JesseAz for example. It is impossible for me to have a conversation with him because he expects me to defend things I never said nor did. So the exchange is him accusing me of saying or doing things I never said nor did, me attempting to clarify, and him telling me I'm wrong. What's the point in having a conversation with someone who tells you what you think and calls you a liar when you disagree? None. So I muted the jackass.

                  1. Lol. I literally lost your prior comments dummy.

                  2. Sarcasmic, all Jesse does is repost your own comments, unaltered and in context.

                    You've frequently posted shit drunk, regretted it and then lied and blamed Tulpa for spoofing you.
                    The thing is, anyone can establish that really was you by muting you and checking if the comment was muted, which it invariably is.

                    You're really too stupid for this.

                    1. Lol. The sarc wars. Yawn.

                      Look, it’s like this…… sarc isn’t as bad as tony.

                      A statement that says so little, yet says so much.

                      We all good here? Movin on…

        3. Are you saying you wouldn't let sbp2 babysit your kid?

        4. I don't think it's that hard to understand. We argue with idiots online because we're here to argue. And the stuff that idiots say tend to be things that a lot of people are saying and need refutation.

      2. He nails the idea that stupid people can't be persuaded especially well.

        They don't care whether they're wrong or right.
        They don't care whether their premises are true or false.
        They don't care whether they're rational or irrational.
        They don't want to teach or learn.

        Yeah, we're talking about profoundly stupid people--not because they disagree with us but because there's on point in trying to persuade them of anything.

        1. Shorter Ken: anyone who disagrees with me is stupid.

          1. You certainly are. You and Tony are neck and neck in the least educated sweeps.

            1. Doh! Placement! Haha.

        2. "...They don't care whether they're wrong or right.
          They don't care whether their premises are true or false.
          They don't care whether they're rational or irrational.
          They don't want to teach or learn..."

          That's what I found persuasive.
          turd, sarc, tony, the lot of them, all repeat lies after they've been clearly shown to be lies; they don't care.

          1. Incapable of being persuaded is clear evidence of stupidity.

            1. Says the guy who can never be persuaded.

              1. Ken and I had a discussion a few weeks ago about Mitra where I persuaded him that some claims regarding the deity were erroneous.

                You on the other hand have always doubled down when shown clear evidence to the contrary. The death of Brian Sicknick is a good example.

                You're literally accusing Ken of that which you yourself are guilty.

  29. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d5d_HXGeMA
    Nearly all of the vid is irrelevant, and while the (obnoxious) robo voice mentions several very important details, the trees are blocking the view of the forest; the root cause is ignored:
    1) Detail: The ports and shipping vessels/containers were ‘designed’ to be very efficient, and were not designed for excess capacity!
    Correct: They were designed to make money for the owners within the planning abilities of the managers. Tin-pot-dictator wannabes shutting down the economy and then ‘re-opening’ it were not in the foreseeable plans.
    2) Detail: The current (rebound) shipping traffic is ~25% higher than what existed before we allowed the tin-pot-dictator wannabes to plan our economy, and a 25% increase over market-driven planning results in an exponential increase in delays.
    Correct, but ignores the reason for the increase; the rebound as a result of the econ-ignoramuses hoping that simply telling everyone to go back to work would make things instantly ducky!
    Conclusion:
    You want supply-chain fuck ups, loaded ships at anchor off-shore for weeks at a time and empty containers where they aren’t needed?
    Easy: Let even SMART people try to plan your economy, let alone grease-ball, econ-ignoramuses like Newsom.
    Planned economies DO NOT WORK

    1. But what if we draft some more plans and implement THOSE plans?

      1. Newsom is "planning" the reopening! He wants a more equitable economy; sound familiar? And scary?

        1. If we have the right people in charge……

      2. Their problem is they only had one year planned, but it looks like it’s gonna take 5.

    2. There are things that the government could do that would help. They won't do them because they aren't glamorous, but they do exist.

      Setting up a storage yard for empties so the container chassis can get unloaded and go pick up fulls instead of sitting around with empties on them, would probably be my number one item on that list. It's also the top item in terms of things that they could that's actually within their legitimate powers, if not necessarily their typical legitimate scope of activities.

      If they did that (and if they don't, there's no point in the rest of this) then the next thing they could do is throw money at the problem. Probably in conjunction with reducing some regulatory burdens at least temporarily.

      Once they have more container chassis empty, the money throwing comes in the form of bribing trucking companies and their drivers to switch market segments and go pull containers out of the ports instead of whatever else they're doing now. It's even a relatively good time to do it, as a lot of flatbed drivers are looking at the normal yearly winter slump. This one is definitely in the column of "things I would not normally approve of as a libertarian". But it was stupid government action that got us into this hole and it might take some stupid government (yes, theft funded) largesse to bail us out of it.

      The regulatory relaxation would come in the form of letting a wider variety of trucks and drivers operate in California in general and the port specifically, at least temporarily. Probably a couple of other things. Maybe some slippage on HOS regs.

      It would, of course, be critical to not let the crisis become permanent if it turned out to financially benefit someone in the trucking industry significantly for it to do so.

      1. Or who knows, maybe it's arrogant as fuck for me to think that I know how to solve it either. But I'd give me (someone who has actually driven a tractor trailer in a port facility, and also happens to have experience as a complex systems engineer) a much better chance of getting the answer right than Newsom or Biden, who haven't ever done *anything* productive as far as I can tell.

        1. At least you have suggestions. All the politicians can do is blame the American people and babble "I don't have a magic wand".

    3. Sevo....when the hell are you people going to rid yourselves of Newsome, and the liberalistas in the CA legislature. Those people are truly crazy.

  30. >>Disney yanks a China-critical Simpsons episode

    South Park's Mickey Mouse is the most true version.

    1. Correct, hawhaw!

  31. "Starting Monday, businesses that don't check their customers' vaccination status will now be liable for citations and fines."

    This mandate should be easy for LA businesses to evade, but not to ignore. And this mandate should created lots of entrepreneurs in LA, making and selling fake covid IDs.

    By simply asking customers for a vaccine card (or proof of vaccine), LA businesses cannot/won't be fined or penalized for serving any potential customer who has a fake vaccine ID card.

    Unlike driver's licenses (or other official government IDs), covid vaccine cards contain no photo, and can be easily faked. I'd be shocked if the city of LA would arrest or prosecute a business owner because one of his/her employees failed to detect a fake covid ID card.

    1. I'm guessing the next step is some sort of digital tracking to "solve" the fake Covid card "problem". Maybe a chip in the hand as in Demolition Man. (Has anybody told Californians that Demolition Man is fiction and not the blueprint for an ideal society?)

      1. Forearm barcode tattoos that link to your medical records.

      2. But San Angeles is utopia

  32. Ever since I heard that the new "variant" is called "Omicron" I've been thinking...damn that sounds familiar. I finally remember: Omicron Ceti 3 is the name of the planet in the episode of Star Trek TOS "This Side of Paradise". The planet has plants that spray spores over people which makes them spacey and useless.

    It kinda reminds me of the Democrats' blueprint for our society: everybody just sits at home and watches the boob tube, that's their whole life.

    1. he Democrats' blueprint for our society: everybody just sits at home and watches the boob tube, that's their whole life."

      On UBI of course. That dovetails rather nicely with Tyler Cowen's prediction [The End of Mediocrity] of a near future in which 85% of us will have nothing to do.

      But thank God they won't have to work for Amazon!

    2. Omicron anagram = moronic

      How fitting.

    3. Odd that they skipped right past the Xi variant.

      1. Wuflu = Ziflu. It was implied.

        1. I mean Xiflu

      2. Seems like they skipped nu as well. But the lack of Xi does seem particularly suspicious.

        1. the lack of Xi does seem particularly suspicious

          More like auspicious for the CCP propaganda machine.

    4. Ever since I heard that the new "variant" is called "Omicron" I've been thinking...damn that sounds familiar.

      Personally, it invokes 'The Chaos Bringer', 'The World Eater', 'The Monster Planet' that sought to devour all life in the Universe; Unicron. I find both about equally worrisome.

  33. https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1465335325690114057?t=nFVPV-LivMY0V8wBMHmyEw&s=19

    Walk with me through a little made-up story:

    Let’s say there was a big Pro Life rally in Detroit. But it got way out of hand and those pro-lifers started looting and burning things. It had gone on for days. A black #BlackLivesMatter guy shows up in Detroit with a weapon.

    He stands guard at one of the car dealerships the pro-lifers want to burn. Suddenly, those pro-lifers attack him. On camera. Keep in mind this is all captured on camera. He uses his weapon to defend himself and two pro-lifers end up dead.

    Now, pause this story for a moment. How is this man handled? Let’s just skip right past the “wouldn’t be charged” obvious stuff and think about how he’d be handled. Book deal? No question. Court side seats as LeBron’s guest at a Laker game? Definitely.

    Fluffy interviews on almost every news station. Almost undoubtedly would be drafted to run for office. He’d speak at the next DNC convention. They’d build him a statue. Or two.

    But let’s just say for the sake of argument that he IS put on trial. And he gets acquitted. And let’s say in this scenario that we had a Republican President. And this GOP president had made several statements about “out of control black nationalists”. Naming this guy.

    And let’s say in the wake of the trial, every major Right wing news outlet continued calling him a racist black nationalist and warning about all the anti-pro-life bigotry out there. And this goes on for a couple days.

    And then, some crazy, violent white guy with a Facebook avi showing him in a MAGA hat gets in his pickup truck and mows down 50 black people in a parade. Multiple dead.

    Take a moment, an honest moment, and tell me what would have happened by now. Imagine the media coverage. It would still lead every program. The Republican president would be impeached over it. Don’t argue. You know he would.

    There would be congressional hearings already scheduled. The FBI would already have multiple people in custody. Friends and family members of the killer would be fired already. Their children wouldn’t be able to attend school.

    CNN would have a news crew on his mother’s lawn. City after city would be up in flames from the rioting and looking. Multiple people would be murdered in the chaotic aftermath that followed.

    I’m not wrong about any of this. In fact, I’m probably underselling it. I could see Democrat-controlled areas flat-out criminalizing wearing GOP gear.

    And I didn’t lay all this out to show hypocrisy or double standards. That’s a waste of time. Everyone knows that already. I laid this all out so you could see just how powerful The System is.

    The things they do to protect the people viewed as being on their side are endless.

    The things they do to destroy anyone viewed as an opponent are endless.

    Remember this made up scenario the next time some communist whines about “dangerous rhetoric” or snarky jokes. Remember it well.

    We are not playing the same game. Not even close. They’re playing to win. We’re doing “politics”.

    That’s all.

    1. Sarcasmic just yesterday claimed Pravda like media is fine because he went deep into a search to find information that was discussed but not mainstream.

    2. They’re playing to win. We’re doing “politics”.

      Suggest "win" rather than just win and just politics (or diplomacy) rather than "politics". We're fighting 'according to the Geneva Convention', no children, state-sponsored targets/non-civilian areas, conserve infrastructure, denunciation/excoriation of compatriots who violate those mores... they're fighting a scorched earth war of attrition.

      1. they're fighting a scorched earth war of attrition

        The media is providing cover for Marxist and Marxist inspired organizations for whom dismantling 'truth' is an inherent part of their organizing principles. They don't just not care if they scorch the Earth. A nation collectively farming eco-friendly crops in the ashes is their intended outcome.

  34. "And I didn’t lay all this out to show hypocrisy or double standards. That’s a waste of time. Everyone knows that already. I laid this all out so you could see just how powerful The System is."

    And the "System" is...

    Party Politics
    Mainstream/ Legacy Media
    Progressivism within and running the two

  35. The threat of fines is frustrating some Los Angeles business owners.

    "I have to be…the bodyguard for the city," said one restaurateur to the Los Angeles Times. "At the end of the day, we're doing their job. If I don't let people in, I don't have customers and if I don't have customers that means I don't have a business. And the rent, I have to keep paying. The permits, I have to keep paying."

    What are they complaining about it? Do not they do that for swine flu, Hong Kong flu, measles, and polio? What is one m ore vaccine? /sarc

    1. Can you provide a link to even one comment where sarcasmic spoke in favor of requiring business owners to enforce vaccine mandates?

      1. /sarc is a tag meaning what was just said was sarcasm. Has nothing to do with me.

        Besides, nobody needs to post a comment where I speak in favor of something. They don't have to. It is known.

        1. Can you two just fuck already?

          1. Poor sarc's getting strung along. White Mike isn't going to give him some no matter how hard he simps.

        2. You gonna cry, sarc?

      2. LOL What a dumbass

        1. I am actually going to put those 2 on mute right now. I can no longer imagine that anyone could appear smarter by engaging with them.

    2. No shirt, no shoes, no HIV vaccination card, no service.

      1. Obviously there's no vaccine there, but it would actually have some sort of rational basis for a meat-market type bar to demand a recent STD test panel before entry. And I bet many of the same people who support this Covid vax card checking would scream bloody murder if anyone did it.

  36. Just a reminder:

    Major left-wing news networks had an assailant and attempted-murderer on air to promote him as a hero and defame the defendant (now found not guilty) in an ongoing trial.

    Simultaneously, major left-wing news networks worked tirelessly to air misleading claims, false claims, and pushed the prosecution's argument without even airing the defense's.

    Simultaneously, MSM network tried to dox the jury (or have them fear they would be doxxed) during said trial.

    Propaganda/tactics at North-Korea levels.

    If you are thinking of playing their game with them and getting a fair shake, you have already lost.

    1. But he crossed state lines!

      1. Funny how crossing borders is suddenly a terrible thing.

      2. Gods. I ended up... "Discussing" is probably the wrong term, but getting yelled at, anyway, regarding the Rittenhouse verdict at Thanksgiving. And it was this incoherent squawking mess of "assault rifle" and "crossed state lines" and "peaceful protest".

        I was a little embarrassed for the guy.

        1. You hope you had enough balls to at least yell back at him that he was a misinformed moron and should probably watch the full unedited videos as well as the trial. And remind him that if some soft, weepy bowl of teenage ello like Rittenhouse can dispatch his allies with that kind of precision, it would be smart for him and his side to not piss off those who actually have real kills under their belt thanks to 20 years of overseas military adventures.

        2. Basically, I've found that if you stand your ground with these people, they either fuck off out of your life forever, which is really doing you a favor, or you at least get them to question their premises a bit.

          Being constantly on the attack, as much as it pains chemtard to see it, finally turned my Bernie-voting sister-in-law in to a centrist libertarian over the last year, and I've thankfully divested myself of a lot of establishment bootlickers out of my social circle.

  37. SleepyJoe is on tv making an ass of himself.

    1. Link pls?

  38. PIERS MORGAN: Flip-Flop Fauci's partisan political point-scoring shows he's more interested in promoting himself then saving lives – he should park his gigantic ego, stay off TV and shut up

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10254589/PIERS-MORGAN-Faucis-political-point-scoring-shows-hes-interested-promoting-himself.html

    Hear, hear!

    1. He should be up on charges.

    2. But forced state quarantine camps for the young and healthy are still okay right? You have said so in the past.

    3. What a world. I'm agreeing with Piers Morgan fairly often.

      1. I used to think he was a jackass, but I do agree with him now more often than not.

  39. https://twitter.com/ChristinaPushaw/status/1465320261964767232?t=54eXRHHHHkaCLCN9MPlTGQ&s=19

    The latest 7d map of community transmission (Source: @CDCgov)

    Florida is the only state that’s mostly blue, indicating low levels of transmission.

    No school mask mandates, no lockdowns, no restrictions, no passports — just early treatment.
    [Infographic/link]

    1. Last week, 45 states had fewer new covid cases than during the prior week, with a decline of >5% in 41 states.

      Meanwhile, only NJ, CT and MA experienced >5% increase in new covid cases.

    2. Sticks out like a sore thumb. Or phallus.

    3. Same as last year at this time......

  40. https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1465351179538509826?t=6euitBFmCpvZ6LMaSYuClA&s=19

    Former CTO and new Twitter CEO Agrawal in November 2020 interview: "Our role is not to be bound by the First Amendment... focus[ing] less on thinking about free speech, but thinking about how the times have changed."

    1. Where do they find these people?

      1. Ivy League universities?

  41. https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1465366759385583628?s=19

    Incoming Twitter CEO. Go figure.

    "If they are not gonna make a distinction between muslims and extremists, then why should I distinguish between white people and racists."
    -Parag Agrawal

    1. Prog Agrawal doesn't see that he is getting the raw deal there?

      They were already going to call whites racist. They are already doing it. Many progs have already said being white is inherently being a racist, or white supremacist.

      So I guess I might as well call muslims terrorists and blacks violent criminal thugs? Am I doing it right?

      1. This is something I was saying yesterday to someone. If absolutely fucking everything under the sun gets identified as "white supremacy", eventually there are going to be quite a few people of any number of skin colors who give up and just embrace the label.

        1. Yeah, if the definitions of "racism" and "white supremacy" are getting changed on us, then I may need to reevaluate whether I actually think those are bad things. If not making every single thing about race is racist, and hard work and meritocracy are white supremacy, then I guess I'm a racist white supremacist.
          I'd rather keep the definitions of words that everyone already understands, but if they do effectively change, then don't play their game and let accusations of racism make you jump.

          1. It's very 1984.

          2. Another example is "TERF". I used to be moderately disdainful of "TERFs" because it seemed like they might be engaging in some bullying behavior, and making life worse for a group of people who already have it pretty rough.

            Only, apparently, these days, a lesbian who doesn't want to have sex with a person who has a penis is now (notionally) engaging in "genital preference bigotry" and is being transphobic and is a TERF. (And also, I do realize that this is a fairly lunatic fringe of the trans community.)

            Which, as far as I'm aware, one of the more common traits of lesbians is a lack of interest in cocks.

            So there's probably a lot of people in the lesbian camp who might have otherwise been sympathetic to the plight of trans folk who are far more likely now to go "Yep, I'm totally a TERF and I'm fine with that."

            Congratulations, y'all. You've successfully made your pool of opponents larger. Well fucking done.

            1. I do realize that this is a fairly lunatic fringe of the trans community

              So many ways I could run with this.

              Congratulations, y'all. You've successfully made your pool of opponents larger. Well fucking done.

              That seems to be what politics is all about this century.

            2. "genital preference bigotry"

              Also known as "sexual orientation".

            3. They are a fringe group and yet they still have the power to ruin people's lives, and they use that power

          3. Yep! This entire pandemic has been a master class in changing definitions.

            https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/newspeak-is-upon-us

          4. I feel like we move past this when we collectively agree to get over race. Specifically, being called "racist" or "white supremacist".

            Racist is so watered down at this point it is basically being white and not following the approved narrative talking points. Even questioning something as toxic as CRT will get you labeled a racist who wants to hide the past.

            White supremacist is so far from what it used to be its almost comical. It was truly a vile horrible thing, and now its apparently literally everywhere you can imagine? Then add to that "whiteness" essentially encompasses every good trait about a person who is successful? (Ironically "whiteness" traits happen to be the ones present in successful immigrants...who would have thought). They really have jumped the shark here.

            We have to just start accepting they will be calling us this, and rolling our eyes at these people when they do. These terms used to have a lot more power when people were terrified to be associated with them. Now? Meh, call me a white supremacist. They were going to do it anyways, im not going to dance for them while sweating bullets.

            1. It does make you want to stick around just to see what happens next.

          5. Black nationalist Charles Blow had a hilariously unself-aware article the other day talking about how Hispanic people needed to be disabused of their disdain for darker-skinned people.

            While there are certainly a lot of Hispanics in the professional class and academia who've swallowed the dark-skin fetish kool-aid whole, that's mostly to fit in with the white progressives who are largely pushing that shit, along with the "Latinx" label, and their working-class family members tend to mock them for putting on airs. Take a trip through Latin King territory in Chicago or any number of blue-collar Hispanic communities, and you'll find out eventually what they actually think of ANYONE, white, black, or otherwise, who isn't part of their ethnic group.

    2. Uh, because it's destroying your product among both white youth and 'diverse' youth who don't want to exclude white youth because you can't distinguish between being white and acting racist (let alone acting violent)?

      Cosmopolitan's already got the "We're gonna nitpick the social miscues of being white and privileged." beat covered boomer.

  42. Another reminder:

    We had a horrific, maybe one of the worst recent domestic terror incidents in the last few years, and because the murderer did not fit the approved media narrative of #whYtesupremacy, there is little to no coverage of this event.

    They called it a "parade crash" or "parade accident"

    1. Can we call it a Man Made Disaster or is that Racist?

      1. It was caused by an SUV

        1. #believeallexplorers

          1. A vehicle did something...

        2. That makes me wonder what sort of narrative they would use if the vehicle had been an EV.

    2. The car did it.

    3. What's left to cover? Should the media keep printing the same stories over and over?

      1. He is at the old news stage already.

      2. It's the differential that is interesting, not the absolute amount of coverage. If it had been a white dude with a confederate flag on his pickup truck, you know we would be hearing about it non-stop.

        1. I'm still seeing stories about "the parade car attack" on the Daily Mail.

          The point of news is to sell advertising. They're not going to run stories that nobody wants to read. They're going to cater to their demographic. So CNN, MSNBC, and the like are going to run stories that their predominately liberal audience wants. Likewise FOX, Drudge and the like are going to run stories that their predominately conservative audience wants.

          Complaining about a media outlet not running the stories you like when you're not in their demographic seems to me like pointless bitching.

          1. In my case, anyway, I'm not so much complaining as noting a rather striking discrepancy. Which can largely be explained by who the target audience is. But most of these journalists claim to be seekers of the truth and should be called out on shit like this a lot more.
            I can appreciate your cynicism, but I think it's not a good situation when people with different political leanings are presented with very different sets of facts about the world, and that just seems to be getting worse and worse.

            1. Presented? What does that mean? It's not difficult to seek out different points of view. The fact that many people live in an echo chamber of their own making isn't the fault of the media. They're just giving their audience what they want.

              1. I'm going to say it's partly the fault of the media. They don't merely want to sell ads. They also mostly are there to promote a particular ideology. I believe (but obviously can't prove in any rigorous way) that a lot of people don't want to be in echo chambers, but don't realize that they are. They think that their news is the real news and those other news sources are all lies and should not be considered.
                Maybe that's how it's always been. Or maybe the shared factual basis for the news that we used to appear to have was all bullshit too. But it's been cranked up to 11.

                1. From what I've seen and heard, judging facts based upon politics is uniquely American.

            2. Remember that, first and foremost, the job of the newsman isn't to deliver the news. It's to get people to watch commercials.

            3. Check this out. He makes some good points.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvk2PQNcg8w&t=530s

              1. Yeah, I like that guy.

      3. Why hasn't Joe Biden disavowed BLM?

        1. Because your mom has herpes? How the fuck would I know?

          1. "Ideas!"
            sarc swears he never goes ad hominem, so all his posts like this are clearly illusions.

      4. It would be like not covering the San Bernardino shooting because of that guys skin color. This is how far the window has shifted for them. They are trying to one day memory hole a domestic terror attack with many casualties because of skin color.

        The trend is what matters. 4-5 years ago this kind of thing would be unheard of.

      5. Nothing stopped them from doing that before. What's the difference with this particular incident?

  43. Looks like the Chinese are preparing to take advantage of Joe Biden's incompetence, as they continue to fly lots of fighter jets over Taiwan territory (which may be Chinese territory before Biden leaves office).
    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/taiwan-china/2021/11/28/id/1046473/

    1. Why do you think they put him in the White House to begin with?

    2. "Xi said that talent is imperative in achieving victory in military competition and gaining the upper hand in FUTURE WARS, according to Xinhua."

      I foresee not very long from now we are going to wake up in a world that looks very different than the one we went to sleep in.

      And if anyone thinks that "China wouldn't do that" because of the effect on their economic and trade connections, I think the CCP sees the world from quite a different perspective. They are not going to be content with just making money.

  44. doesn't the Simpsons version of the Tienanmen Monument tell the party line anyway?

  45. Will they rename it to just The Simps?

    1. I am surprised they let it run a all. It really makes yellow people look stupid.

  46. Will McConnell and other Senate Rinos cave in to Biden, Pelosi and Schumer once again? Unfortunately, yes appears to be the answer.
    https://thefederalist.com/2021/11/29/why-do-senate-republicans-want-help-democrats-raise-the-debt-limit-again/

  47. Maxwell and Smollett trials starting up. The Maxwell case looks pretty weak and desperate to me with a lot of Clinton style chicanery afoot. But I could be wrong. Smollett should be a slam dunk. But I could be wrong. Oh and Jeffery Epstein didn't kill himself.

    1. a little surprised Ghislane didn't not kill herself yet too.

      1. Clinton style chicanery about 'Clinton style chicanery'. That is a bit on the nose for me.

      2. Sometimes guards fall asleep and incredibly the surveillance video fails at exactly the same time. Pretty common apparently. Of course if someone were to seize the moment and commit suicide heads would roll. The negligent parties would be subject to a stern reprimand and significant cash payments from unidentified sources.

        1. You Tyson suggest something with that??

  48. Thus far, the WHO has said that it'll take several weeks before we have more clear answers to many of these questions.

    Here we go again.

    Yes, here we go again, and again, and again and again and again.

    And again.

    And again.

    Two weeks to flatten the curvature.

    1. “Two weeks to flatten the curvature.”

      Nobody is saying that about the omicron variant.

      1. Dee has to be acting stupid here, right?

  49. ....And in other news.

    The Common Cold is killing more people under 65 than ALL the Covid deaths combined. Can the [WE] foundation start sending anyone with a Common Cold into the concentration camps too? I'm so sick of catching other people's colds; they should all just be locked up...../s

  50. A true American (via Turkey and Switzerland) hero !!

    https://www.bbc.com/news/59439797

    Will the ChiComs block all NBA games featuring the Celtics?

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