A Worrisome New COVID-19 Variant Identified in South Africa
Just how infectious and dangerous the new variant could be is not known at this time.

South African researchers are reporting the rapid emergence of a highly mutated new COVID-19 coronavirus variant, B.1.1.529. The World Health Organization will likely assign it the Greek letter Nu Omicron* as its more general identifier. Among other changes, the Nu Omicron variant features 30 modifications to its spike protein that the virus uses as a key to enter and infect human cells.
Director of South Africa's Centre for Epidemic Response & Innovation Tulio de Oliveira notes over on Twitter that "this new variant, B.1.1.529 seems to spread very quick! In less than 2 weeks now dominates all infections following a devastating Delta wave in South Africa (Blue new variant, now at 75% of last genomes and soon to reach 100%)."

Just how infectious and dangerous the Nu Omicron variant may be is not known at this time. However, a preliminary analysis by researchers at the Network for Genomic Surveillance - South Africa suggests that many of the mutations could enhance the transmissibility of the new variant.

On the other hand, Baylor College of Medicine virologist Peter Hotez over on Twitter cautions:


Although many countries are closing their borders to travelers from South Africa, the Nu Omicron variant has already been detected in Israel, Hong Kong, and Belgium. Spooked by the new variant stock market averages around world fell steeply.
*Update: The World Health Organization (WHO) skipped over Nu to name the variant Omicron. The WHO also noted:
This variant has a large number of mutations, some of which are concerning. Preliminary evidence suggests an increased risk of reinfection with this variant, as compared to other VOCs. The number of cases of this variant appears to be increasing in almost all provinces in South Africa. Current SARS-CoV-2 PCR diagnostics continue to detect this variant. Several labs have indicated that for one widely used PCR test, one of the three target genes is not detected (called S gene dropout or S gene target failure) and this test can therefore be used as marker for this variant, pending sequencing confirmation. Using this approach, this variant has been detected at faster rates than previous surges in infection, suggesting that this variant may have a growth advantage.
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As a Koch / Reason libertarian, I believe the smartest policy to implement during a pandemic — especially when scientists discover a scary new variant — is open borders.
#ImmigrationAboveAll
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Open borders for Koch employees. Lockdowns for everybody else.
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Like Ive said...THIS IS NOT COVID.
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Attacking the immune system. Accompanied by the same kind of lie..
Animal origin. Aids was chimps. This is bats.
Both lies
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Surely you mean only country borders and not state.
Don’t call them Shirley.
Don't forget the other communist anarchist Mises plank, legalize murder. Nothing rouses voters out of their apathy like promising to legalize murder, unless it's offer bounty hunters tax money for girl-bullying.
This all started with the Comstock Act and we all know it.
And the corn laws and kkkristians.
And Gee Oh Pee mystical looter bigots!
https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/1464363298778976257?t=NDbiutcN1SXmq6LSjpaHKQ&s=19
(1) Let's talk about the overarching motive.
The uncomfortable one.
(2) As you know, the monetary policy to maintain an economic system beneficial to Wall Street and the multinational investment class means they need to keep interest rates low even as they print more money vis-a-vis the Build Back Better spending operations.
(3) Neel Kashkari is head of the Minneapolis Federal Reserve. If you know the financial lingo, you can see the dire forecast behind the opaque language. In plain-speak, Kashari is saying when it comes to prices and inflation, “we’re screwed“…
(4) The traditional way to control inflation is for central banks (ex US Fed) to stop purchasing their own debt and/or raise interest rates. However, that approach would be against the interests of the multinational elites and international finance system (World Economic Forum).
(5) They can't Build Back Better if they stop printing money to support the agenda.
They can't spend $Trillions if they don't print money.
(6) Yet the downside to printing the money they need to spend is massive inflation.
Inflation is a problem for the Build Back Better agenda writ large. Inflation creates public backlash.
(7) If they can't stop printing money... If they can't stop spending.... Yet inflation is a risk to them, they need another mechanism to stop inflation.
(8) The greatest challenge to those in power is a massive rise in inflation. What is the quickest way to eliminate the political risks due to inflation? Shut down demand…. turn the values closed on economic activity, and then watch (ex. oil) prices level/drop.
(9) But how to drop the demand?
How to turn the valves closed?
What mechanism can be deployed?
(10) That's where you introduce and install the valve called "Omicron".
"The discovery of a new Covid-19 variant sent oil plummeting 13% on Friday, as investors feared a wave of new government restrictions and slower economic growth."
(11) Under this type of economic manipulation using science, the U.S. federal government -and the multinational governments as a whole- recapture control of inflation.
(12) If you are a member of the political elite, and worried about the electoral backlash from massively rising prices hitting your citizenry, another way to stop inflation is to shut down economic demand.
How do you shut down global economic demand….
Omicron !!
(13) As a result, we enter the 2022 mid-term election under a scenario where a new variant of COVID, Omicron, is the reason for government rules, a slowed economy and a contraction of demand.
Omicron becomes a justification/excuse for lowered economic expectations.
(14) Simultaneously, inflation is artificially paused by using Omicron as a pressure valve, and the central bankers don’t have to worry about negative consequences to the multinational corporations who give them instructions.
(15) Under this strategy, the electorate can be duped into reinstalling political ideologues, elites and communists.
And guess what? In retrospect the U.S. Energy Sec didn't need to know what the price of a barrel of oil costs, b/c her position is perfunctory.
(16) Omicron means the Fed doesn't need to stop spending and buying back debt.
Omicron reduces the problem of furious torch bearing citizens triggered by inflation... by controlling the economic behavior of those citizens.
Meanwhile, Build Back Better spending continues....
(17) Hopefully you can see it now.
/END
well that's a long version but I came here to say the same thing – as with all covid or politics-related news, the one thing this proves it's that it's a conspiracy!
I know one conspiracy theory: 2 weeks to flatten the curve, huh, you virtuously science-signaling milksop? And on post non-links to the website of the cdc flip-floppers and other oh so venerable muh science deities:
- Studies get it wrong more often than milk faced bitchboys want to admit.
- 2 sigma confidence standards are not exactly the holy grail.
- Scientists have agendas. BIG. FAT. AGENDAS. This has become so obvious that you really beclown yourself with your shilling.
And so on. The credibility gamble has backfired. Guess the prospect of that sweet totalitarian power was worth it.
lying. They are NOT printing money. thereforeno inflation.
You have zero economics knowledge
Are you the Rob Misek of economics or something?
One Koch dead the other still living now a "woke" Democrat, along with his sister that has always been a woke Democrat, just like Reason's writers.
They didn't get their greedy dictatorial way in the Republican party, but are getting their way from the woke Democrats. Think about that.
While the Koch's masqueraded as libertarians, they have always been for total dictatorial control for themselves and peasantry for everyone else.
The Koch's actually made employees attend mandatory political indoctrination courses or lose their jobs. Does that sound libertarian to anyone?
Someone else had a few weeks ago:
Stay six feet apartheid
Da-dum, crash!
Maybe locals were just boered of taking precautions.
They could just transvaal somewhere else.
Apartheid is nothing to Crow over!
Stay six feet apartheid
That was a few weeks ago. Now the CDC recommends staying a six feet apartheid and wearing a burning tire around your neck.
exc. Democrats. Burning tires smell bad enough without the smell of burning feces.
FJB!
LGB!
Necklace endangerment!!!!
Shaka Flulu
"Just how infectious and dangerous the new variant could be is not known at this time."
According to Faucci and Newsom, it's the equivalent of the Bubonic Plague!
Worser!
Aw, rats!
The "lockdown" strategy was adopted worldwide to prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed by COVID. It was clear early on that the virus was highly infectious, but only lethal to an identifiable subset (elderly and co-morbidities). Stretching the introduction of the virus over more than two years allows more variants than a "protect the vulnerable" strategy would have.
Of course there is. Right in schedule.
Was that a conspiratorial observation?
How is White Mike supposed to know if he should generate an asinine response if you don't give him enough information to be properly outraged?
Yes. COVID hoaxers routinely claim that new "variants" are discovered just in time to justify ongoing government restrictions. (Even while those restrictions have tended to lapse and be replaced by private actors imposing their own requirements.)
At the very least you have to appreciate the propaganda execution, with labs all over the world pretending to peer into microscopes and "see" these "mutated viruses". Conveniently "too small to be seen" by any of the little people who actually pay taxes, while the elite lab personnel controlled by the multinational elites and international finance system stare down their noses at us and use long words intended to reinforce their supposed superiority.
"I AM THE SCIENCE. I am always correct. I do not err. I can't be cherry-picked. I can't be manipulated. I have no agenda."
- Dr. Anthony Palpafauci-Sidious
Spoiler alert!
If only more Americans would've gotten vaccinated then a new variant wouldn't have arisen... in Africa... because something something...
...because Section 230 allows "The Evil Corporatists" to mind-control conservatives into becoming liberals (or even worse, libertarians!).
According to MarxistMammaryBahnFuhrer, that is!
Irrelevant gibberish.
Arrogant thread-shitting!
“Dear Abby” is a personal friend of mine. She gets some VERY strange letters! For my amusement, she forwards some of them to me from time to time. Here is a relevant one:
Dear Abby, Dear Abby,
My life is a mess,
Even Bill Clinton won’t stain my dress,
I whinny seductively for the horses,
They tell me my picnic is short a few courses,
My real name is Mary Stack,
NO ONE wants my hairy crack!
On disability, I live all alone,
Spend desperate nights by the phone,
I found a man named Richard (Dick) Decker,
But he won’t give me his hairy pecker!
Dick Decker’s pecker is reserved for farm beasts,
I am beastly, yes! But my crack’s full of yeasts!
So Dear Abby, that’s just a poetic summary… You can read about the Love of my Life, Richard Decker, here:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/10/11/farmers-kept-refusing-let-him-have-sex-with-their-animals-so-he-sought-revenge-authorities-say/#comments-wrapper
Farmers kept refusing to let him have sex with their animals. So he sought revenge, authorities say.
Decker the hairy pecker told me a summary of his story as below:
Decker: “Can I have sex with your horse?”
Farmer: “Lemme go ask the horse.”
Pause…
Farmer: “My horse says ‘neigh’!”
And THAT was straight from the horse’s mouth! I’m not horsin’ around, here, no mare!
So Richard Decker the hairy pecker told me that, apparently never even realizing just HOW DEEPLY it hurt me, that he was all interested in farm beasts, while totally ignoring MEEE!!
So I thought maybe I could at least liven up my lonely-heart social life, by refining my common interests that I share with Richard Decker… I, too, like to have sex with horses!
But Dear Abby, the horses ALL keep on saying “neigh” to my whinnying sexual advances!
Some tell me that my whinnying is too whiny… Abby, I don’t know how to fix it!
Dear Abby, please don’t tell me “get therapy”… I can’t afford it on my disability check!
Now, along with my crack full of yeasts… I am developing anorexia! Some are calling me a “quarter pounder with cheese”, but they are NOT interested at ALL, in eating me!!! They will NOT snack on my crack!
What will I DO, Dear Abby?!?!?
-Desperately Seeking Horses, Men, or ANYTHING, in Fort Worth,
Yours Truly,
R Mac / Mary Stack / Tulpa / Mary’s Period / “.” / Satan
Fuck off and die, flagged, TDS addled spastic asshole.
The below poetry is dedicated to Super-Perv-Predator-Sevo the Pedo, Hippo in a Speedo,
AKA “SmegmaLung”!
Sitting on a park bench
Eyeing little boys with bad intent
Snot's running down his nose
Greasy fingers smearing shabby clothes
Hey, SmegmaLung!
Drying in the cold sun
Watching as the frilly panties run
Hey, SmegmaLung!
Feeling like a dead duck
Spitting out pieces of his broken luck
Oh, SmegmaLung!
Sun streaking cold
A hateful man wandering lonely
Insulting others the only way he knows
Brain hurts bad as he tries to think
Goes down to the bog to spread his stink
Feeling alone
The army's up the road
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea
SmegmaLung, my friend
Don't you start away uneasy
You poor old sod
You see, it's only me
By you insulting me,
The rotting goes to thee!
SQRLSY One
November.9.2020 at 4:26 pm
Bimsday, 39 Bemberbember 2020 at 6:66 PM
I love to LIE my ass off, and suck Satan’s dick! Because I hate humanity! The Evil One is the Father of Lies, just as Der BidenFuhrer is the Stable Genius! So, as the apple falls not far from the tree, I INSIST on telling obvious lies, all day, every day! Butt… Surprise, surprise! Other Evil Ones Junior will fall for my lies… Because they want to!
https://reason.com/2021/03/23/sidney-powell-says-shes-not-guilty-of-defamation-because-no-reasonable-person-would-have-believed-her-outlandish-election-conspiracy-theory/
Sidney Powell Says She’s Not Guilty of Defamation Because ‘No Reasonable Person’ Would Have Believed Her ‘Outlandish’ Election Conspiracy Theory
Which particular lies are you wanting to hear and believe today, Marxist-Mammary Servant of the Evil One?
Sidney Powell didn't say that and you and Sullum both know it, and her lawyer apologized to her.
M. Scott Peck talks about people like you in his book, "People of the Lie".
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sidney-powell-sanctioned-baseless-election-lawsuits/
Judge sanctions Sidney Powell and others who brought baseless lawsuit to overturn Biden victory
So she did no wrong, and it is the Lizard People and this judge here (above) who is wrong? EVERYONE else is ALL wrong and evil, and ONLY Marxist-Mammary (Servant of the Evil One), and the Evil One Itself, are in the right? Why am I not surprised?
Lying bitch!!!!
I just cranked this search string into Google... Sidney Powell statements of fact ... And got hit after hit after hit of BOATLOADS of news sites reporting this exact same story!!! You really DO have a SEVERE case of delusional paranoia, don't you? You might want to get some help for your delusional paranoia, psychotic Wonder Child!
Fuck off and die, flagged, TDS addled spastic asshole.
"Arrogant thread-shitting!"
You certainly are, Sqrlsy.
The only thread shitter is you.
One of MANY-MANY thread shitters is you.
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/africa/article/3136136/woman-hiv-had-covid-19-seven-months-virus-mutated-32-times-inside
Rumor has it this person was fully jabbed with Moderna, giving the virus 7 months to learn how to evade the vaccine produced antibodies.
Similar conditions were probably reproduced dozens if not hundreds of times in different people. It was inevitable.
MSM will blame it on the unvaccinated.
That’s actually pretty scary potentially.
There's a reason there's never been a vaccine for the common cold.
What kind of virus is the common cold?
Both COVID-19 and the common cold are caused by viruses. COVID-19 is caused by SARS-CoV-2, while the common cold is most often caused by rhinoviruses. These viruses spread in similar ways and cause many of the same signs and symptoms.
During most cold seasons, 15 to 30% of the colds out there are caused by corona viruses. I really wonder if these are even variants at all, or just naturally occurring contagions.
Which is why you NEVER mass vaccinate with leaky vaccines!!!!
“Rumor has it”? The article itself says no such thing. And then you are building on top of the rumor, for which you have no cite, by saying the rumor is probably true of hundreds more.
They have been encouraging people with compromised immune systems to get vaccinated, because they are vulnerable. People with compromised immune systems are also the most likely to have persistent and reoccurring infections. As many as 1 in 10k people have a significant deficit in their immune system. It is a duh this has happened many times.
You really chanted what “this” is a lot in your latest comment.
they are guaranteed to catch it. THeres NO WAY to know all the viriiare deactivated.
And so its a ploy to kill them off.
No?
Read up on Margaret (?) Sanger and Bill Gates population control work.
Right out of A. Hitlers play book.
The Covid not-vaccines are mRNA technology based. It has no actual Covid virus in it. Just for accuracy here.
"Preliminary evidence suggests an increased risk of reinfection with this variant, as compared to other VOCs."
Is that reinfection among the "vaccinated" or reinfection among those with natural immunity? The reality is that these leaky vaccines are creating variants and will continue to do so. This is basic immunology but Ron is shocked that his beloved "vaccines" not only don't work but are actually a real threat to humanity. I'll check and see what Malone has to say about this. You know. An actual scientist..
Gauteng province is a very young population. 42% under 24 - less than 6% over 60. This particular patient was 36 and seriously immunocompromised. It is spreading in young people and schools. So - no not the vax population.
Care to provide proof to your claims?
you prove otherwise
Media Q&A session w SADept of Health
yup. And the assholes are still dispensing a 3 year old vaccine which is useless except for another few billions in profit
It is now vital...VITAL, I say...that we do not hold China responsible for anything involving COVID.
Racism, it’s always because of racism!
Solid logic.
"I AM THE SCIENCE. I am always correct. I do not err. I can't be cherry-picked. I can't be manipulated. I have no agenda."
- Dr. Anthony Palpafauci-Sidious
Saw this morning that Belgium believes they have this variant too.
I thought they were waffling in the subject.
Belgium is a country, not a road to drive your vaccine variants through.
I meant virus variants, but it works either way maybe.
You know who else drove through Belgium?
Queen Mathilde?
Suzanne Pleshette
+1 #10
Wellington?
My designated driver during a Trappist breweries tour? (I wish. Someday...)
Speaking of Belgium-Stella Artois is now brewed in St Louis and tastes a lot like Busch. So yes, it is possible to turn a mediocre imported beer into a shitty domestic beer and still charge the same price.
Von Moltke the Younger?
You sir are correct.
I don't about SA, but isn't Africa like, 7% vaccinated or something?
28% of South Africans have received a vaccine.
With something like a 3% mortality rate iirc?
3% mortality rate from covid or (sigh) vaccine? (IDTYRC...)
From actual Covid, no comorbidities. Italy was 3.7%, iirc again.
Not-vaccine mortality rate is unknown with any accuracy at present, but obviously much much higher than any previous vaccine ever approved.
"From actual Covid, no comorbidities. Italy was 3.7%, iirc again"
CFR or IFR? It doesn't sound like you are using terms correctly and should probably provide citations (if these comments are serious.)
"obviously much much higher than any previous vaccine ever approved"
Sure, obviously.
I read the vaccines cause about 40% of the people who receive them to die as if by flesh-eating bacteria. Another 20% or so turn into a kind of zombie who can only speak sentences if they first watch Sean Hannity saying them. What did you hear, just so I can have all the facts and make an informed decision?
"I AM THE SCIENCE. I am always correct. I do not err. I can't be cherry-picked. I can't be manipulated. I have no agenda."
- Dr. Anthony Palpafauci-Sidious
I think I just saw Wuhan Solo and his droid C.O.V.I.D.-19, I think they were stroking their own wookie.
Careful, if the woke mob hears you acknowledging Wuhan Solo, his perverted droid and the role they have played in the plandemic they will start up a giant whining chorus about "fact checks" and bring the full force of Big Tech tyranny whoopass down upon your head.
Those dorks don't scare me.
However I do agree that the farce is strong with big tech.
The problem with wailing milksops like waxliberty is that they think they are being a parody when they say stuff like this. In fact, the woke mob functions just like that (in their own minds).
The biggest lies (by Fauci, CDC, FDA, Democrat politicians and their left wing media propagandists) about covid is that natural immunity either doesn't exist or doesn't protect those infected by covid from reinfection.
Natural immunity is the fundamental tenet of virology and immunology, and dozens of studies have confirmed that natural immunity from covid provides stronger and longer lasting immunity than vaccines provide (as vaccines' effectiveness wanes after 6 months).
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/research-natural-immunity-covid-brownstone-institute/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=798eab5b-477f-4720-9579-1cc7fa3150d8
Since the beginning of the covid pandemic, just 14 cases of covid reinfection (i.e. getting infected a second time) have been confirmed in the US.
https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/08/covid-19-reinfection-tracker/
But of course, the left wing media propagandists (and Ronald Bailey) won't reveal that important information.
What you say can be assumed true and sill the virus could change enough to represent a new threat.
Those that weren't reinfected after being exposed again might have avoided reinfection due to immune system protection.
If a new variant can evade immune system protection, whatever the number of past cases of reinfection wouldn't be relevant.
To say that such is the case now is premature. The next few weeks will tell the story.
"What you say can be assumed true and sill the virus could change enough to represent a new threat...."
Fuck off and die, chicken little.
If that is true, then the vaccines are worthless as well.
The key point.
Leaky vaccines create variants. We've known this for decades. Read up on Marek's disease.
https://notesfromthesocialclinic.org/mareks-disease-a-cautionary-tale/
"Optimal vs Suboptimal Vaccines:
An optimal vaccine prevents infection and transmission. By preventing infection, it prevents illness. An optimal vaccine does not just protect the vaccinee from developing severe illness (when that individual is exposed to the virus); it prevents the virus from successfully entering the vaccinee’s cells and replicating within them (i.e., prevents infection), and it, thereby, prevents that individual from shedding and transmitting the virus. An optimal vaccine does not just reduce symptoms; it prevents both infection and transmission.
The Marek’s Vaccine is a Suboptimal (“leaky”) Vaccine:
Unfortunately, the vaccine for Marek’s disease provides only suboptimal immunity against the Marek virus. [1, 4, 8, 9] When a vaccinated chicken subsequently becomes infected with the Marek virus, the vaccine partially blocks entry of the virus into host cells, thereby reducing the severity of symptoms from Marek’s disease, but does not completely stop the virus from entering cells and replicating. The vaccine does not eradicate the live virus within that chicken, nor does it prevent transmission. Although the vaccine protects the chicken from severe illness (i.e., reduces symptoms), the live virus continues to live within that chicken, replicates within that chicken, and is shed by that chicken. [1, 4, 8, 9] In fact, when vaccinated chickens become infected by the Marek virus, they cumulatively shed 10,000 times more virus than do infected unvaccinated chickens (who quickly die and, thereby, stop shedding). [1]
As long as the huge majority of chickens are vaccinated, only a small minority of chickens die of Marek’s disease—specifically, the unvaccinated minority. In fact, in recent years unvaccinated chickens who are exposed to the most virulent strains of the virus typically die within 10 days. [1] They develop tumors, become paralyzed, and their brains are destroyed. The primary source of their infection is vaccinated chickens who are doing well themselves but are cumulatively spreading large quantities of lethal strains of the virus. In other words, the greatest threat to the unvaccinated chickens are the vaccinated chickens. As long as the unvaccinated chickens fraternize with only unvaccinated chickens and live in healthy “free range” conditions (i.e., away from mega-farms), they will likely be okay. But, if they are sent to a chicken mega-farm, which will be full of vaccinated chickens, they will quickly die."
The Covid vaccines are leaky, suboptimal "vaccines". The Pharma companies knew this before anybody got the jab.
CRITICAL POINT:
"; it prevents the virus from successfully entering the vaccinee’s cells and replicating within them (i.e., prevents infection"
The Lying Media have created the false meme that just having the virus= infection.
Liars all.
Pussy
A link from 1 MONTHS ago? What a moronic tool you are.
15 months
2 weeks to flatten the curve
14 cases?
So you're saying it CAN happen!
Asteroids have hit the earth.
It can happen.
Those happen very often. Small ones. Extinction level events are now quite rare. Tens of millions of years. Last one was +/- 66 million years ago. And abruptly ended the age of dinosaurs.
My favorite was the one that landed in some lady's toilet.
It ain't 14 cases - but Godshall knows that and is deliberately lying with out-of-date information.
Minnesota reports reinfections now. They are at 10,073.
yes and Big Pharma just HATES that..
Out of curiosity, do you have an example of this lie as stated by CDC or FDA we can compare, or are we intentionally granting broad latitude for important grievance signals here?
"I AM THE SCIENCE. I am always correct. I do not err. I can't be cherry-picked. I can't be manipulated. I have no agenda."
- Dr. Anthony Palpafauci-Sidious
Government is the virus.
For those that put liberty above all else, there is still a line where some real and present threat will have those very same people discarding some amount of liberty in order to not be dead.
The "give me liberty or give me death" crowd is probably pretty small in a modern wealthy republic/democracy. The richest of the rich, regardless of political persuasion, are the ones that hid out the most during the past 20 months. They fought against regulation, mostly so the great unwashed would keep working, so as to make a return for rich while they hid out.
This is where central authority worshippers will always get it wrong. Libery doesn't mean we make stupid decisions, it means we make our own decisions. If there are effective mitigations to something like a pandemic, we will voluntarily apply them. We will voluntarily protect ourselves, our family, our friends, even the neighbors we hate.
The "experts" will always be wrong. All centralized decision making does it force everyone to make the same mistakes. Centralized decision making will always prolong a pandemic by slowing down distributed knowledge and decision making. It stops experimentation which is the magic sauce that makes science seem magical. It turnes it into one big giant single gamble on the green 0 of the roulette wheel. Don't be the asshole that forces everyone to bet on the 0.
^This
It doesn't even make sense. They fought against regulation so people could keep working. So, massive shutdowns and a cratering of the economy was the result of the most economically powerful people on earth working to prevent a shutdown from cratering the economy?
It's like how we had 2 weeks to flatten the line (or whatever) at hospitals in order to keep them from being overwhelmed. Fast forward to today, there is a staffing shortage in certain areas because hospitals are requiring their staff to be vaxxed...resulting in overwhelmed hospitals. Looks like we made it there, one way or another.
“there is a staffing shortage in certain areas because hospitals are requiring their staff to be vaxxed”
Cite? I’ve seen plenty of predictions that would happen, but has it actually happened anywhere?
I know of very real hospital ICU bed and oxygen shortages because of unvaccinated patients being treated for COVID-19.
Its been linked here multiple times halfwit.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/staff-shortages-force-new-york-hospital-to-close-emergency-room-as-winter-covid-surge-looms/ar-AAR3jPA
And your second paragraph is a fucking lie too. So fucking pathetic.
Vaccine Mandates Hit Amid Historic Health-Care Staff Shortage
-Hospital beds go unfilled and the cause is ‘exclusively’ labor
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-02/vaccine-mandates-hit-amid-historic-health-care-staff-shortage
New York hospital temporarily closes ED over staffing shortages
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/patient-flow/new-york-hospital-temporarily-closes-ed-over-staffing-shortages.html
As Vaccine Deadlines Approach, Hospitals Fear Staffing Shortages Will Occur
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/09/27/1041047608/vaccine-deadlines-hospitals-fear-staffing-shortages
Hospitals innovate amid dire nursing shortages
https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/hospitals-innovate-amid-dire-nursing-shortages
Staffing shortages, increase in patients prompting hospitals to go on diversion
https://www.wrtv.com/news/working-for-you/staffing-shortages-increase-in-patients-prompting-hospitals-to-go-on-diversion
Nurses urge HHS to declare the staffing shortage a national crisis
https://www.healthcarefinancenews.com/news/nurses-urge-hhss-declare-staffing-shortage-national-crisis
Have I given you enough evidence to necessitate moving your goalposts or no?
Do you have a cite?
White Mike
The claim was:
“there is a staffing shortage in certain areas because hospitals are requiring their staff to be vaxxed” (emphasis added)
None of those articles prove the direct causation. Either they are predicting that the vaccine mandates will cause a labor shortage, or they are observing a labor shortage and citing a vaccine mandate as possibly one of many reasons for the shortage, along with stressful working conditions, low pay, subpar PPE, etc.
So, go find the citation that actually proves the claim that was actually presented, not some news article that is merely attempting to predict it.
Good, enough data to shift the goalpost.
The original claim was because not exclusively because. If there is a shortage for reason A and a shortage for reason B, there is a shortage because of both reason A and reason B. If you resolve reason A, you still have a shortage because of reason B. Dumbass.
Man. Thats a lot of words to say youre an ignorant piece of shit.
Agree. Further - the measure of a staff shortage that affects this is the number of ICU beds.
If that number has gone down over the pandemic, then it is a staff shortage that is creating an ICU bed shortage.
If the number has been stable or gone up, then there may well be a staff shortage but it has little/nothing to do with an ICU capacity problem. In that case, the capacity problem is a large increase in the number of covid patients.
Cite?
Look at your own state.
Oxygen shortages? Okay.
The fuck you do.
Don’t want to force anyone, but betting on getting vaccinated for COVID-19 would be a very good idea for almost everyone.
This is such a stupid statement. Kids are at what is considered zero medical risk except for extreme cases. And the shit is directly related to a surge in myocarditis.
But you're a simpleton who has the religious belief in one size fits all as mandates by government.
Encouraging healthy young people to get this vaccine is absolutely a mistake.
Why?
It is amazing how you can be shown something dozens of times but if it disagrees with your narrative you are incapable of learning.
Jeffy pulls the same shit. Gets dragged through a detailed explanation of something he disagrees with, then the next day pretends it didn’t happen and demands it be explained to him.
This is the same garbage from this douchebag.
This is an irresponsible recommendation. Don't cite Joe Rogan as a health expert.
Even if one doesn't die from COVID, one might still suffer after-effects, i.e., "long covid", that we still don't understand.
Nobody cited Rogan dumbass.
“Long COVID.” Hmmm. I guess we have about as much understanding about that as we have about the long term effects of these MRRNA vaccines.
There are no long term side effects from mRNA vaccines! - White Jeff.
Profit move! BILLIONS of dollars
And it is worrisome when people think the way to fight for freedom is to spread disinformation on the vaccines. To do so is undermining smart use of free choice and liberty.
You've been at the forefront of misinformation. See every anti viral generic. You've blindly attacked.
smart use of free choice and liberty.
No such thing as a correct way to have liberty.
And not only misinformation but disinformation too!
O, Mike Larsen, Arbiter of all Truth, please bestow upon us your wisdom so that we may all have correct views and not use our freedom incorrectly!
Libery doesn't mean we make stupid decisions, it means we make our own decisions. If there are effective mitigations to something like a pandemic, we will voluntarily apply them. We will voluntarily protect ourselves, our family, our friends, even the neighbors we hate.
Not everyone will make the smart decisions. Some will make stupid decisions. Some will make decisions that turn out later to be the wrong ones, due to imperfect information at the time. For example, look at the tetanus vaccine. This vaccine has been around for a very long time and is very safe and effective. And yet vaccination rate for tetanus is only around 60%. Why aren't more people making the smart decision here?
And that is totally fine to not make the smart decision, and to make stupid decisions - as long as the consequences of those decisions don't negatively harm others. The moment that they do, then the individual causing harm, due to their decisions, ought to be held responsible, no? That is the difference between "pure liberty" (aka anarchism), and something approaching a system of ordered liberty, like a night watchman state.
So I am totally on board with people having the liberty to make their own decisions. But it must be coupled with a system to hold individuals accountable if those decisions result in harm to others. Agreed?
I wondered when you would slither in here.
Shorter jeff.
We must punish people who don't agree with his liberal agenda. But only after they make that free choice. That way people will think twice next time they go against the leftist narrative.
It’s strange that people who talk about power of diversity, demand conformity.
Celebrating the superficial differences of looks and style, while disdaining the meaningful variations in values and judgment.
Are you a multi-cultureist Jeff, The kind who can’t stand other people who have a slightly different value system than your own? If so ,you should travel.
What am I supposedly demanding conformity to? To making the "correct" decision?
To note that sometimes, some people make poor decisions, is not necessarily a moral condemnation against those people; it is an observation. As I said, I am totally on board with people having the liberty to make whatever decision that they wish. But it must be coupled with a system that holds individuals accountable if the results of those decisions cause harm to others. That's the foundational idea behind the Non-Aggression Principle after all. You know, the famous libertarian principle that justifies, from a libertarian perspective, when state use of force may be justified. Darrell Brooks made a decision to drive his car into a parade full of people. He should be held accountable for that decision because the results of that decision caused a great deal of harm to a great many people. This seems like a very straightforward idea. How is this an issue having anything to do with 'multiculturalism'?
And he doubles down. Punish people for making life decisions he disagrees with.
Jeff, do you even understand that your assertion has no limiting principle? Youre obese. Youre more likely to use up hospital resources that could go to others if you put the fork down. This causes someone harm. By your assertion you should be punished.
The NAP doesn't extend to the incidents and risks inherent in life. Driving and getting into an accident isn't aggression. Not getting a vaccine after getting and recovering from covid isn't aggression.
What you are asking for is to claim any incident of harm is an aggression so you can punish every human being without limit.
Youre an authoritarian.
You have no moral obligation to protect someone from nature. Especially if you aren’t sick.
"The "experts" will always be wrong"
Spoken, I suppose, as someone who is a bit of an expert on what is true and not true?
I do agree this cuts to the center of the debate. Historically, objectively, broad international consensus of e.g. scientific experts have been proven right over and over, and ideological opponents proven wrong over and over. Lead paint, sulfate pollution, cigarettes and cancer, ozone hole, greenhouse warming, etc.
This is why the central debate is not over politics or policy but over *what is true*. The essence of the reason why rightists in particular are relentlessly driven towards aggressive denial of science and empiricism, strictly out of raw ideological necessity. (Per the Hayek quote/prediction.)
"All centralized decision making does it force everyone to make the same mistakes."
Take an example like the Clean Air Act. On paper, air quality increased measurably, premature deaths and other health effects were reduced, toxic pollutants were reduced etc. What mistake was enforced on all?
"Centralized decision making will always prolong a pandemic by slowing down distributed knowledge and decision making. It stops experimentation..."
Quite a premise. You mean experimentation on larger populations? Who is conducting these organic experiments, exactly? Who is controlling what variable and how?
"The essence of the reason why rightists in particular are relentlessly driven towards aggressive denial of science"
Didn't know Fauci and the CDC were rightists, you exceptional dimwit.
Fuck off and die, chicken little.
Well, sure, but in addition to that there are literal viruses.
Plague
For those who claim that natural immunity is the best, what will be the claim for a virus that evades the immune system?
One for which the immune system can't be adjusted, either by natural infection or vaccination?
For the past century, every student in every class on infectious disease, virology and immunology (at every medical and public health school in the world) was taught that natural immunity is far more effective and longer lasting than from vaccines.
The entire goal when developing effective vaccines is to replicate natural immunity.
But Fauci, Birx, CDC, FDA and the left wing media and politicians have denied the existence (or greatly downplayed the benefits) of natural immunity from covid.
Then, left wing and social media censored and cancelled anyone (including experts in virology and immunology) who told the truth about natural immunity.
The entire goal when developing effective vaccines is to replicate natural immunity.
Not even replace. Maximally trigger with otherwise minimal response.
The idea that mRNA vaccines are better is just abject stupidity. It's like saying that if you pick 5-10s of the hook from your favorite song and play it at 5X the volume you would normally listen to it at, it's as good or better than listening to the whole song.
"was taught that natural immunity is far more effective and longer lasting than from vaccines"
My impression is that what is taught is that it's more complicated than this. But perhaps you can cite an introductory textbook passage that establishes your simplified black-and-white version.
For covid specifically, what is your personal testable theory why natural immunity does not consistently appear to offer superior protection empirically, in the observed world? (To clarify – I do understand the conspiracy theories extremely well including how popular they are; "testable" is an attempt to keep the discussion grounded in what can be tested in reality.)
e.g.
"Unvaccinated people who had a recent infection were five times more likely to be reinfected with the coronavirus compared to those who were fully vaccinated and didn’t have a prior infection"
www DOT webmd DOT com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20211031/covid-vax-5-times-more-protective-than-natural-immunity
"we show that patients with low SARS-CoV-2 viral loads in their respiratory tract are less likely to mount a systemic antibody response"
wwwnc DOT cdc dOT gov/eid/article/27/9/21-1042_article
Also out of curiosity, do you also dispute studies that find vaccinations improve protection for those previously infected (i.e. natural+vaccine > natural alone)?
Of course, all such commentary usually breezes past the core logical problem – to obtain natural immunity of any level, you first have to contract covid-19 and take all of the health, neurological etc. risks associated with that, the entire reason for discussing immunity in the first place...
Nobody cares to debate a whiny lefty shill. Keep on sucking Fauci's cock, at least you won't be able to talk.
Then natural immunity still remains superior. Do you not understand how the not-vaccines try to work?
And CBS News and the AP sound the alarm, that some GOP states are trying to carve out a "natural immunity" exemption to mandates (sort of like Europe does):
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-natural-immunity-vaccine-exception/
Yeah, natural immunity is sort of okay, man, but the vaccine man, that's where it's at:
There is "clear evidence" that surviving a bout of the disease can result in antibodies that are "approximately equivalent" to two doses of Pfizer or Moderna, the CDC concluded in a science brief last month.
However, not everyone who survived the disease will be able to avoid reinfection or spreading it to others. Measuring whether someone has enough antibodies to offer protection comparable to vaccination remains out of reach for most Americans.
The CDC's review found a "wide range" of antibody levels in people who recovered from the virus, compared to a typically higher and more consistent antibody response in those who received the vaccine.
Getting both is even better:
Combining vaccination with natural immunity gives you a “hybrid immunity,” which provides even more protection than vaccination alone — sending your antibody levels to “astronomical levels that outpace what you get from two doses of vaccine alone,” Rishi Goel, an immunologist at the University of Pennsylvania, told Nature last month.
It's like you can't compound the damage from vascular inflammation or something. Holy fuck these people need to go away.
If they acknowledge acquired immunity, they would have to deal with the people who would (correctly) choose to get the virus over the jab.
That doesn't work when the goal is jabs in arms.
"people who would (correctly) choose to get the virus over the jab"
This is "correctly" in an ideological sense I assume, i.e. superior grievance signaling? Given it is obviously not correct in a "math is real" sense.
I like how bitch faced milksops think that saying stuff like "math is real" makes their whining appear more valid.
"One for which the immune system can't be adjusted, either by natural infection or vaccination?".
I generally do not respond to gibberish. But this time I'll make an exception.
That is gibberish.
Nobody cares and people are not going to keep lining up for vaccines. Its time to get over it.
+ 1000 ^
Maybe he’s talking about radiation or something?
Flying spaghetti monster virus
Ah FSM. A truly Tasty divinity.
All hail free breadsticks!
Fuck off and die, chicken little.
The best response to irrational fear from irrational idiots.
Doug, tell me you dont understand how vaccines actually work without telling me directly.
One for which the immune system can't be adjusted, either by natural infection or vaccination?
Then you're talking about engineering the human immune system from the ground up, which leaves you several options:
1. Off yourself as you see fit.
2. Roll the dice and take on the virus with what you've got.
3. Volunteer for experimentation that, for probably decades, will almost certainly kill you in ways that will make 1 and 2 seem quick and enjoyable and, even after that, likely make a majority of your children die in ways that will make 1 and 2 seem quick and enjoyable for a couple generations to come.
The stubborn persistence of internet hysteria is fascinating.
This is part of a rich tradition though. Check out the cartoon at top here, Murdoch-style panic propaganda of its time:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/history-shows-americans-have-always-been-wary-vaccines-180976828/
The same conflicts playing out on the national stage over centuries, again and again.
"I AM THE SCIENCE. I am always correct. I do not err. I can't be cherry-picked. I can't be manipulated. I have no agenda."
- Dr. Anthony Palpafauci-Sidious
“Worrisome”
Now I'm just concerned PCR multiplication always showed this behavior, and they're stopping at 15x instead of 20x when they reach 2/3 and conclude it's the "new variant." But that's a limitation of PCR as a detection technology.
If a PCR positive test for existing variants is _/^\
And the result grows in magnitude and subparts as the test is multiplied (it does in PCR)
And the positive test for Omicron is _/^
Then a positive Omicron result is likely to outstrip a positive anything else result, as a function of what they've accepted as the (partial) positive test result in PCR. But that doesn't tell us which variant it actually is.
They should continue PCR cycles on a positive Omicron sample to whatever usual multiplication rate to ensure that it doesn't pop the "S gene" later, which would confirm that it's not Omicron, if the quoted text is correct.
Do you have any citation as to the alteration of the number of cycles. The alteration of the number of cycles doesn't exactly justify what you're saying, but I see no evidence that they altered the cycle number. Admittedly, that assumes undue competence on the part of the CDC but, still, the closest I see to what you're indicating is "this variant has been detected at faster rates than previous surges in infection, suggesting that this variant may have a growth advantage" which, *could* mean what you're saying but, more likely, means they're seeing more positive tests per day, at the same number of cycles, for the new variant.
No, the number of cycles were spitballed in my comment, I don't know how many the test the quote was referring to utilizes.
My concern is before that: do they stop after fewer cycles if they get a positive result? If so, that early stopping can lead to falsely identifying a non-Omicron covid sample as an Omicron sample, where the positive condition for Omicron is expressly a fraction of the positive condition for a different diagnosis.
My concern is before that: do they stop after fewer cycles if they get a positive result? If so, that early stopping can lead to falsely identifying a non-Omicron covid sample as an Omicron sample, where the positive condition for Omicron is expressly a fraction of the positive condition for a different diagnosis.
Again, admitting undue competence, I think this is a misunderstanding of how PCR works. Yes, it's possible to get sequences that don't hybridize and amplify as well as others, but for rt and qPCR, these differences are minimized by design, known going in, and any *relative* lack of amplification represents a true absence or mismatch.
Not _/^\ vs. _/^ but _ x10^9, /x10^9, ^x10^10, \x10^8 vs. _x10^9, /x10^9, ^x10^10, \x10^1(or zero). No matter how many cycles you run the latter sample, the '\' will still be (say) 6 (or more) orders below where it should be from a matching sample.
Your latter point is a bit correct though. A missing sequence only signals that this strain *or strains* is different. The lack of information can't tell you how many different strains may be lacking the specific amplicon.
Thanks for explaining that. I take your point that the way PCR works means that the error rate between presence and absence isn't in proportion to number of features examined, even assuming variability in cycles. That takes the error rate I was afraid of from ~33% to something minuscule.
Has the WHO's Tedros declared the flight bans from African nations racist (as Tedros, the Chinese government and left wing media propagandists in the US did when Trump banned flights from China on Jan 31, 2020)?
That's different because shut up.
Hahaha!
The virus has always bypassed BLM riots so Africans by definition cannot transmit Covid, It's science. Trump is a racist so anything he did made Covid worse. It's science.
HEY LOOK OVER THERE instead of at this dumpster fire Brandon and the Progs lit.
It's like we've never met a flu virus before...
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Yes. Exactly.
Covid 19 was a coronavirus variant. It was inevitable more variants would arise.
That will never truly end.
The freakout needs to end.
New normals are not always ones we might otherwise choose.
Are you counting blog posts like this giving known facts as a “freakout”? What exactly are you advocating — not sharing the information?
Are you counting blog posts like this giving known facts as a “freakout”?
"Worrisome" is, definitively, not a fact.
That will not happen. There are too many people who are happy to surrender what freedoms they have based on the false narratives presented by the media, and because they are cowards at heart.
WOLF!!!
WOLF!!!
WOLF!!!
The 30 round magazine capacity and semi-automatic nature of an AR-15 make it an excellent tool to repel pack hunters.
Is that not the reaction the media is hoping for?
40 rounds better .
STRAC at the ready.
Until the tragic boating accident leading to the loss of my firearms, I might have said a 75-round RPK drum was perfect for pandemic zombies...
If Omicon is like delta and leads to another large wave of people in the hospital, I hope accurate information gets out this time. The only people who trust what the CDC and the NIH tell them, anymore, seems to be social media platforms and the mainstream news, and according to both Gallup surveys and the mainstream news' plummeting viewership, hardly anyone believes the mainstream news anymore. And the time to start opposing another series of lockdowns may be upon us.
Let's hope this is a false alarm.
At this point social media should not be trusted one iota.
Never mind what you hear, have doubts about everything you are not hearing.
I work in long term care in VA and TN, we are still in a wave of facility outbreaks, but hospitalizations and deaths appear to be substantially lower. I cannot say for sure why. Whether it is vaccines reducing morbidity or better/faster treatments with monoclonals remains unclear and nobody is providing good data anymore.
The weakest have been killed already.
Whether it is vaccines reducing morbidity or better/faster treatments with monoclonals remains unclear and nobody is providing good data anymore."
It's probably some of both--and even plenty of the people who aren't vaccinated have already been exposed (and were asymptomatic).
Even if this were as bad as alpha and delta, chances are that vaccines and prior exposure will make us less likely to need to go to the hospital and less likely to die.
At this point, I would be happy if prominent and trusted voices would get out there and explain that making it so people don't need to go to the hospital and don't die is really all that matters. We are not shutting down society to try to prevent the spread of seasonal flu. If it wasn't for the higher hospitalization rates and higher mortality rates of Covid-19, we never would have shut down the economy. The purpose of pandemic measures is not to stop people from getting this virus or the flu. When hospitalization and mortality rates get back to normal, the pandemic is over--regardless of whether people are still getting sick.
Who is coming forward to speak this simple truth?
I just rand the following numbers through Excel to get the averages:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_influenza_statistics_by_flu_season
There was an average of 419,000 hospitalizations, annually, from the seasonal flu--from 2010 through 2019 in the United States.
There was an average of 34,200 deaths, annually, from the seasonal flu--from 2010 through 2019 in the United States.
When we get back down to around 419,000 hospitalizations and 34,200 deaths from all flu sources, the pandemic is over.
Ken:
"...In his letters from prison, Bonhoeffer argued that stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than malice, because "while one may protest against evil, it can be exposed and prevented by the use of force, against stupidity we are defenseless..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww47bR86wSc
turd, et al are explained; stupidity is sufficient.
When we get back down to around 419,000 hospitalizations and 34,200 deaths from all flu sources, the pandemic is over.
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Which we will never do if we're counting everybody with a tiny bit of virus in them as a covid death.
At this point, I would be happy if prominent and trusted voices would get out there and explain that making it so people don't need to go to the hospital and don't die is really all that matters.
Gee, Ken, what if different people have different value judgments on what "really all that matters" is?
Declaring that "all that really matters" is that people aren't dying in droves from COVID is equivalent to demanding that everyone have a much higher risk tolerance. Because after all, COVID can affect you more than just from death - "long covid" is a real thing. Not to mention all of the pain and misery that is associated with a survivable COVID infection. And that is fine if YOU want to have a high risk tolerance. But not everyone does though.
Everyone should have a higher risk tolerance. We’ve become a nation of fucking infants.
"We’ve become a nation of fucking infants"
Wait until the wailing of anti-vax fears and lunacy reaches you.
Cry more.
Self-awareness and the realization that now is the time to develop a higher risk tolerance would be a good beginning for many. Or, one could continue to make excuses for, and coddle the immature as they continue to complain, make accusations about trite bs, and spend their lives on nothing of any great importance.
When hospitalization and mortality rates get back to normal, the pandemic is over--regardless of whether people are still getting sick.
It doesn't even need to get back to normal. There is a new normal with covid - it will permanently increase mortality rates and reduce life expectancy much like a lion culling off the weaker zebras. That may take a year or two to work its way into 'normal' averages. But the point where a pandemic/epidemic stops and where endemic begins is where hospital capacities don't break. That's the point where you can get back to normal for everything-but-covid. And the medical system can then figure out how to deal with endemic covid.
youre making this too difficult.
Its slowing bc its already killed off the most suceptible.
No mystery there
At this pointsocial media should not be trusted one iota.FIFY
Again, the only difference between Social Media and any given men's room wall is the total potential number of eyeballs.
Left wing Democrats know they cannot bring back their totalitarian lockdowns (without being thrown out of office by the voters) anywhere but the most left wing cities in the US.
But they'll likely double down on their similarly counterproductive vaccine mandates and mask mandates.
The key reason why covid cases have increased in recent months is because breakthrough infections have recently surpassed new infections among unvaccinated people.
Vaccine mandates are counterproductive because natural immunity confers stronger and longer immunity than covid vaccines (whose effectiveness wanes after 6-8 months, which is typical for most vaccines), because many/most new cases in the US (and Europe) are among the already vaccinated, and because many people have NOT taken a covid vaccine because they no longer trust CDC, FDA or others who have lied repeatedly about covid.
Called it. New York is first to go back into hard lockdown.
No, it hasn't.
Hochul has declared an "emergency," but the effect of the declaration under NY state law is just to give the governor the ability to waive certain other rules that would tend to gum up the response. Her order, at this point, is designed just to loosen up resources for dealing with any surge in COVID cases caused by the new variant. (Keeping in mind that cases are already at an elevated level, as the Delta wave that originated in the South has made its way northward.)
No hard lockdown. And it's exceedingly unlikely that, here in NYC, either our lame(-duck) mayor or our incoming new mayor will implement anything like a "hard lockdown." We're just as sick of the lockdowns as the rest of the country.
"natural immunity confers stronger and longer immunity "
Permanent from what Ive read.
Not Bill Gates Big Pharmas scam to shoot people up with purified water every 3 months at $50 a head.
"The only people who trust what the CDC and the NIH tell them, anymore, seems to be social media platforms and the mainstream news"
And Reason of course.
You expect accurate info from pathological liars in the Media?
Shirley you jest.
My wife and I attended a Thanksgiving dinner yesterday with a half dozen friend of hers. During dinner, after my wife said that she just bought a "Let's go Brandon" hat, everyone at the table looked at her puzzled, and two of them actually asked "Who is Brandon".
After my wife explained that the phrase has served as a substitute for Fuck Joe Biden at college football games during the past several weeks, several people at the table looked at her like they had never seen/heard anyone say that about Biden.
Seems like some folks are totally oblivious to current events and the growing partisan divide in America.
Good for them, really.
Thanksgiving has served as a incubator for political discussion for a very long time.
Sometimes people see things but if they don't understand what it means, they don't really notice it.
I had a cousin who didn't know what yoga pants were. Turns out, he knew exactly what they were. He just didn't know they were called that.
From here on out, I suspect they start noticing "Let's go, Brandon!" when they see it. It's like when you have kids, and the sharp edges on your furniture suddenly start to look dangerous. They were always there!
Good point that now they may actually see and recognize the many places (even here in Taxachusetts) that are proudly displaying that delightful chant.
I've seen it all over in southern California.
There are non-Progressives and others who are not fond of Biden all over, maybe this will finally wake some of the Progies up to that "inconvenient truth".
A "Lets go Brandon" sign at a San Francisco Giants playoff game against the Dodgers made it on to the network, with the announcer calling it "simple, but effective". Apparently he thought it was referring to Brandon Crawford, the Giants' shortstop.
Same story for us also. Had to explain the origin.
It was great! You could tell who was a Biden lover by the astounded looks on their faces. A few others (including me) were struggling to keep from laughing (it was the home of an uber-Progressive, and some of us still believe one should try be polite while eating another man's turkey and drinking his wine, even if he has definitely not extended the same courtesy when being the guest).
The "Biden lovers" I know are astounded less by the cleverness or audacity of this particular chant than they are by the simple childishness of it. Why don't you just say, "Fuck Joe Biden?" It sounds like an elementary school game to avoid using "cuss words." We said "Fuck Trump" all the time, during his administration; we couldn't begrudge your doing the same.
Of course, the real point of "Let's Go, Brandon!" is to traffic in a particularly bizarre twist of the mythos, which is to say that it all came about as some kind of media conspiracy to silence anti-Biden sentiment. Which - no, it rather obviously isn't. A professional correspondent understands the FCC issues with repeating a chant like that, and may have made an honest mistake about what she was hearing. But anyone who is using that chant like it means something is basically co-signing the conspiracy theory behind its popularity. Which, again, is a bit astonishing in itself.
Just say "Fuck Joe Biden." No one cares if you do. We understand that you're all quite upset over... something. I mean, it's not entirely clear what it is, exactly. Something something socialism, I gather. Maybe you're upset that he hasn't unwound the Trump tariffs fast enough, or loosened limitations on international travel, or maybe you're upset that he took too long to execute on Trump's withdrawal plan from Afghanistan, or that he hasn't done enough to alter the fundamental shift in consumption patterns that has caused inflation across the globe, or that he hasn't waved a magic wand and made the pandemic go away, or....
Dang! You don't get the need to have a polite way to swear? Jimminny Crickets and Jeepers Creepers!
As to "Fuck Trump", I agree. But I'll add Obama, Bush (the younger) and Clinton to that list too. Heck (see what I did there?), I'll even include Bush the Elder for getting us into that mess in Iraq.
But, yeah, Let's go Brandon too!
My 32 year old son deliberately avoids the "news". He's got a wife, kids, house, job, 3 dogs and a cat. Good on him for actually having a life. I spent my youth ignoring politics because I was having too much fun. And I'm glad I did. As time went on I gradually began to realize that all of that background noise was negatively affecting my life. Now I pay attention. That's why old people vote and young people don't.
"Who is Brandon?"
Brandon Brown:
Stavast, who may have misheard the chant,[15][16] stated, "You can hear the chants from the crowd, 'Let's go, Brandon!'"[17]
If you've seen the clip, Stavast didn't mishear the chant, whether she was trying to run political cover or trying to clean thing up for broadcast is up for debate.
That's why it's the perfect chant! It's a huge dig at the lying media in the first place.
Probably both, but mad props for thinking on her feet like that.
Not to take credit from her if she did it on the spot. I'd take her at her word, but I can't believe people hadn't been chanting all race long and the entire crew had a couple hours to contemplate what to do if "Fuck Joe Biden" came up on broadcast audio.
I have noticed something similar in a lot of the entertainment media I enjoy (podcasts, youtube channels, etc). Go back a few years and everyone and their mom had to give their "hot takes" no matter how trivial it actually was.
This has largely all stopped ever since Biden took office and I suspect that is purely the reason. Even if things are demonstrably worse in some areas than they were with Trump, they don't care any more because criticizing the current government (or even mildly scrutinizing it) doesn't earn you brownie points.
She = hero
Fuck Biden
I have 2 cousins who are in college. Both very smart, but still brainwashed to an extent by the prevailing groupthink.
The younger (20) didn't know about "Brandon" so the older (22) informed her it was because a reporter thought they heard "let's go Brandon" being chanted instead of "fuck Joe Biden".
I didn't bother correcting that media spin.
You know the whole left-wing, Twitter-verse "woke" bubble you probably have a biweekly aneurysm about? That's where this "Let's go Brandon" thing is going on, on your side. No one outside of your rightwing, paint-huffing bubble really cares about the nuances of your juvenile shibboleths. They care about things like gas prices, their kids going to school, etc.
Actually though, as a shibboleth, it's a pretty fun one.
Let's go Brandon!
"highly mutated new COVID-19 coronavirus variant, B.1.1.529"
Henceforth to be known as the "Groundhog Day" variant.
I'm glad we are now at that part of the Greek alphabet where it becomes obvious that mutations are bad news. Now with the Omg variant. With the next variant - Wats - we are totally screwed. And you don't even want to know about Teotwawki variant.
It would be the OM(e)G(a) variant, you lackwit. Sarcasm is pretty low humor, and you can't even manage that.
OMeGa and teoTwAUki
We managed to somehow skip over the letter Xi as well. Skipping over Nu makes sense because it's a homonym to new in English. What was the rationale for skipping over Xi I wonder.
Xi of Chinam A name
No doubt for the same reason they'll likely skip Pi, Psi, & Chi. The pronunciation is too subtle for the hoi palloi. Of course if they don't skip them then clearly daveca has the right idea as the WHO wouldn't want their master to be offended.
We all know the delta variant was messy and uncontrolled, this one is far cleaner so it should have been named tri-lambda
It is an unusual variant, known for spitting out mouthfuls of mashed potatoes...
"The World Health Organization (WHO) skipped over Nu to name the variant Omicron."
Which was to be expected so as to avoid confusion between the Nu variant and any other new variant given they would sound alike.
Did Donnie-boy designate South Africa as a "shithole"?
I can't recall. It is Africa but there are a lot of whites there.
Probably did.
Good thing our guy Biden is in office now. He knows a pandemic is no reason to restrict travel between countries. (Restricting travel *within* the US is, of course, an appropriate response.)
Here's Biden from last February: Trump further diminished the U.S. in the eyes of the world by expanding his travel ban. This new “African Ban,” is designed to make it harder for black and brown people to immigrate to the United States. It’s a disgrace, and we cannot let him succeed.
#DefendBidenAtAllCosts
And a month and a half after that: Xenophobia is a disease.
When Drumpf finally goes to prison, one of the charges should be failing to implement open borders during the early days of the pandemic.
#OpenBordersWillFixEverything
The walls are closing in.
It's more of a fence, really.
But, but, but....POTUS Biden just prohibited flights in from eight (yes 8! Oh, the racism!) African countries. OBL, what is a good woke-ster to do with that?
#ConfusedWokesterFromBidenAfricanBan
Probably only bans the white Africans turd was talking about.
its just a Virtue Signal. Not a lot of Jet Setters from Africa...
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
turd should stuff his head up his ass and take a deep breath
Any country with enough open sewers, should be called such. I don’t know if South Africa has enough sewers to qualify, but Quite a few Third World nations certainly do. An easy test will walking around barefoot give you brain parasites because of the sewage. If the chance is Anywhere near “are you crazy, put on someG.D. shoes” it’s a shit hole country.
Except for the three capital cities and a few coastal towns, South Africa is a sewer made worse by ending apartheid.
Some countries are just not designed for freedom. That’s one of them.
Those claiming to be " old and wise civilisations" still going Toilet like the Romans did is deluding itself.
LOL right on schedule.
You guys fucking suck.
looks like its Internet day at Sevos mental hospital.
Are you lit or something?
WTI dives below $70.00, down more than 11%, worst fall since 2020’s negative price debacle
Front-month WTI futures have been getting absolutely battered in recent trade and have recently dropped below the $70.00 level. That marks a more than $8.50 decline (over 11%) on the day, its worst such day since the front-month WTI futures contract swung deeply into negative territory in April 2020.
https://www.fxstreet.com/news/wti-dives-below-7000-down-more-than-11-worst-fall-since-2020s-negative-price-debacle-202111261616
HAPERINFLATION IS KILLIN US BOYS!
Darn it, I wish I had this info 2 days ago!
Many of my relatives at Thanksgiving dinner — including Clinton 2016 / Biden 2020 voters — complained about everything costing more these days. I of course responded that inflation is a wingnut.com myth so they must be misremembering the prices they used to pay. However I got the sense not all of them believed me.
If only you had given me this crucial data about front-month WTI futures, I know every single one of them would have abandoned this faulty notion that feeding their families is noticeably more expensive now.
#IgnoreYourGroceryBill
#FocusOnFrontMonthWTIFutures
complained about everything costing more these days.
CUS THERE SPITTIN' TOBACKY IS UP TEN CENT A POUCH!
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
turd should fuck off and die a slow, painful death for being such an asshole.
That's literally the example I used!
I was all like, "If you tell me your grocery bill is up $5 to $10 for the same items, it can only mean you're on a 100% smokeless tobacco diet."
I don't think they understood. 🙁
It’s surprising how long you can survive on nothing but spittin’ tobaccy and moonshine.
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. Turd is a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Do you recall the awesome enchanter named “Tim”, in “Monty Python and the Search for the Holy Grail”? The one who could “summon fire without flint or tinder”? Well, you remind me of Tim… You are an enchanter who can summon persuasion without facts or logic!
So I discussed your awesome talents with some dear personal friends on the Reason staff… Accordingly…
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Hi Fantastically Talented Author:
Obviously, you are a silver-tongued orator, and you also know how to translate your spectacular talents to the written word! We at Reason have need for writers like you, who have near-magical persuasive powers, without having to write at great, tedious length, or resorting to boring facts and citations.
At Reason, we pay above-market-band salaries to permanent staff, or above-market-band per-word-based fees to freelancers, at your choice. To both permanent staff, and to free-lancers, we provide excellent health, dental, and vision benefits. We also provide FREE unlimited access to nubile young groupies, although we do firmly stipulate that persuasion, not coercion, MUST be applied when taking advantage of said nubile young groupies.
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Thank You! -Reason Staff
TDS-addled spastic asshole gets flagged.
Broken record player skipping endlessly gets a new brain and a new spiel... AND a sense of humor... In my wildest dreams!
Well, Sevo has a point, You are a more than a bit of an asshole, and generally his response is appropriate to what you’re saying.
I find it entertaining at least.
Simple amusements for simple minds! The VERY most astoundingly vacuous amusements for the VERY most astoundingly vacuous minds!
TDS spastic asshole flag...
I recall a HIGHLY persuasive recruiting poem for the USMC…
The sky is blue,
The grass is green,
Get off of your ass,
And join the Marines!
So you have CLEARLY read or at least noticed my missives from time to time… Not to be TOOOO delicate about it… Butt…
WHEN are you gonna GET OFF OF YOUR ASS and send a sample of your astonishingly uber-persuasive writings to ReasonNeedsBrilliantlyPersuasiveWriters@Reason.com ?!?!
Jesus H. Christ; with you and your writings, ye are sitting on a veritable frickin’ GOLD MINE!!! Get going, get off’n yer ass, and write that email!!!
https://mobile.twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1223807268703043588
Lol. Pretend this tweet is from today.
That was candidate Joe, not the real Joe.
Pretend Biden has a functioning brain.
Must suck to be President and not know it!
it must suck to be Tony...all brain damaged..
Pretend you're capable of having a good-faith thought about complex things somewhere in your brain.
Would you like a tissue for the bleeding out your ears this will cause?
"Pretend you're capable of having a good-faith thought..."
This is rich coming from a lefty shitpile who never once posted in good faith.
Fuck off and die, asshole
Good faith != Primary source quotes.
Never cease the retarded leftist bit.
Trump made racist immigration policy. This is news to no one. It was his entire presidential campaign.
Restricting travel from a Covid hot spot has nothing to do with race.
But you knew that. That's the whole thing. You know that every political thought you have is a lie. You enjoy that it is all lies. You get off on lying.
Lawl, the copium of watching a neolib committing racists acts hurts doesn't it?
Cry harder.
Tony needs a hug. And I’m not volunteering.
If this was about racism, you'd think they'd pick a different country than South Africa, which famously has many white people in it. I would say "but you knew that," but I'm not sure you do.
Fuck yeah, 8% white people. Ban those minorities, Tony.
Funny shit right there.
Ummm.. dumbass... it is 8 countries.
South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique and Malawi.
And you're suddenly finding white supremacy under every rock, a habit I'm sure you've never criticized.
Does it not make you feel bad in your tummy to have no real convictions about anything other than hate?
"If this was about racism, you'd think they'd pick a different country than South Africa, which famously has many white people in it..."
TDS-addled shitstain asshole lies.
And is stupid as fuck. One of the major bitches about apartheid, beyond the obvious racism, was the white minority ruling over the black minority. But, you know, SA famously has 'many' white people...
"Trump made racist immigration policy...."
TDS-addled shitstain asshole lies.
I mostly think it is hysterical. No steam from this.
Defiant L's claims another victim.
Will no one rid him of this meddlesome twitter?
So how badly did Black, I mean, Racist Friday spread it?
I guess Black Sabbath is just out?
Free bricks for all!
Without those Racist windows, Rioters and Looters wouldnt have to throw bricks.
Glass is racist.
Fool me five times, shame on me.
It's a good thing this Communivirus seems just an oopsie "accidental" release from a Wuhan bioweapons lab. Imagine what it'd be like if it were a deliberate attack such as advocated by Comrade Jack London! (https://tinyurl.com/y3pvyj74)
How is this related to the fact that the Roe v. Wade decision was inspired by the early 1970s Libertarian Party platform?
#AbortionAboveAll
things dont get " accidentally released " from bio labs.
NO such thing. Thats an Oxy moron like
" Planned Parenthood" or " smart Liberal" or
" nice smelling feces"
I would put you down Tony, but God beat me to it.
Imagine if we treated the Jan. 6 terrorists like we do terrorists with a little more melanin.
Stup[id sumbitch can't spell "protestors".
Yeah. The guy that shot a peaceful protestor. But to some terrorist ideology > 1A. Weak. Sad.
So long as the person murdered is of political beliefs other than shitstain's, he's good.
Wondered on to this and it seems to explain a LOT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww47bR86wSc
Stupidity is dangerous!
Lol. You’re extra bitter tonight tony. It’s all falling apart for you, isn’t it?
Try not to hate so much. It’s the holidays.
Stupid does not require "bitter"; it's sufficient to produce disastrous results:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww47bR86wSc
Tony, turd, sarc, asshole Joe and many others explained.
"B.1.1.529"
So does that imply 2 x (529 + 1000) variants? 1, 1 are placeholders
Buck Fiden
Its time to replace Fauci and bring in scientists who can explain why we have been ineffective given the mass push for these vaccines and social distancing. Historically virulent bugs mutate to less deadly forms while natural immunity to the "bad" bugs reaches a tipping point and the "outbreaks" end over time. Usually takes about two years historically. This time we approached this differently, we decided to isolate and shut things down, we rushed mRNA type vaccines (except for the Astra traditional vaccine) to market which could be "leaky." And we are in a cycle we can't seem to break out of.
Time to fire Fauci and bring in new blood. When your general is losing battles you replace them.
Horrible analogy for the modern age. Not a single general has been fired for Afghanistan, and another general got praised for saying he would divulge military plans to the chinks
We did that in November 2020.
We got what shitstain deserves.
And it’s going well!
Profit. Next pointless question?
Shouldn't Fauci already have been fired, for the puppy torture?
Maybe Disney can make an origin story to rehabilitate his image, like they did for Cruella.
Those are obviously evil conservative/libertarian puppies
So, inflation is over, right?
for dead people, yes. They, however can still vote for Democrats.
Is anybody talking about the 5-fold increase in the number of professional soccer players suddenly grabbing their chests and collapsing on the field? Soccer players are well-known for faking injuries, but going to all the trouble of being carted off to the locker room, the hospital, or the morgue seems to me some kind of extreme dedication to the bit. I wonder if there's been some kind of recent change to their health regimen? Somebody should check that out.
You'll believe anything as long as it's not the most likely and scientifically validated thing.
What a weird thing people do sometimes.
For those not familiar with it, this is known as "projection"; assigning your failures to others.
Tony, ypu’re projecting your own idiocy onto others.
Had no clue. I suppose they're all fully vaccinated, of course.
There are two new variants jyst disvovered.
The Lambda Lambda Lambda and Omega Mu.
Terrible. Debilitating.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4s-FpI0c_VE
Not original, but anagram of omicron is moronic – need I say more.
Imagine actually still falling for all this Wuhan Boogie Woofie Flu bullshit.
their Manure Spreaders run out...yet they keep pulling it across the field!
Got the JNJ jab back in April and Modena booster last month. Waiting now for an “official” statement that these are useless against this new variant and I must go back to masking and ordering take out.
You going Pfizer next?
Nope. I figure the current vaccines will be useless soon enough.
theyre "pre- useless"
It saves time!
If you're not making and social distancing now, thank you republican governor for me.
Got a Dim but nobody listens to her.
Git summa dat hors dewormer.
If you're not masking and ordering take out now, thank your Republican governor for me.
If you don't know how dangerous it is why are you worrisome?
Because of the damage Fuacci and Newsom can cause by their lies.
Want a fucked economy? Hand it over to econ-ignoramuses like Newsom.
New variant? Pfizer apparently needs another quarterly earnings boost. They’ll first push boosters with their nearly useless vaccine, then they’ll ultra-fast-track (and patent) the obvious mRNA adaptation of the new sequence, and then Fauci will tell everybody that we need to get a “full sequence” of at least two shots of the new vaccine.
"Due to the Seriousness of the New Omicron COVID Variant the Biden Admin Has Decided to Leave the US Southern Border Completely Open" TGWP
But don’t even think about crossing state lines!
https://twitter.com/TimRunsHisMouth/status/1464305261565337605?t=z0gQ7vqyyxLQ98bHikDc8Q&s=19
In January 2020, Moderna stock was $19 a share... it's $329 today.
That's all you need to know.
Masks.
50 cents each x a billion. They dont last a day.
Sold by......CHINA THRU AMAZON.
Nope. No conspiracy here.
https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1464436242851016708?t=dh6K91-jKbLUnYQrdGh6zA&s=19
Either ignore this variant news or mock it. Don't fall into the trap of acting like it's important or even newsworthy.
Do not let the government clowns do any more damage to society.
Turns out that the unusual symptoms of this variant are: you don’t lose your sense of smell and it only lasts a couple of days, with mild symptoms. Scary stuff!
A Cold. Next?
We need to quit shutting down for a bad case of the flu. Damn, I'm surrounded by pussies.
The governor of New York has already declared a state of emergency.
https://www.governor.ny.gov/executive-order/no-11-declaring-disaster-emergency-state-new-york
A declaration that authorizes the governor to cut red tape and mobilize resources in order to address any strain on the medical system. It's a prudent response, at this time. Expires early next year.
not prudent. no emergency.
Clutch those Pearls! Lockstep agree with government!
Variant in AFRICA some huge danger in CHINA?
Just HOW did it go from Africa to China? Lots of Africans visiting China lately
Orr did it go in reverse?
oops..forgot
F. Joe and the Ho
UPDATE: South African Doctor Who Discovered “Omicron” Variant Says There’s Nothing to Worry About – Only Mild Symptoms
Dr Angelique Coetzee, the South African doctor who first spotted the new Covid variant Omicron, appeared on the BBC this weekend.
Dr. Coetzee says the patients seen so far have had “extremely mild symptoms” – but more time is needed before we know the seriousness of the disease for vulnerable people.
Nice to see Reason participating in Democratic fearmongering. (sarc)
No it really isn't "worrisome", it is normal and expected. But what would the media do without fanning the hysteria every time there is a new variant.
It is over for most normal Americans. Move on.
I thought we were back to normalz.
https://atisang.com/article/slab/
https://atisang.com/Granite/
https://atisang.com/building-stone/
https://atisang.com/onyx-stone
Covid is already more transmissible than the common flu. If Omnicron is already here, we're about 2,3 weeks away from a minor spike. There's spike in cases already in some states like Michigan.
Why are people obsessing over whether its spreads slower or faster then Delta? That guy who finished 4th in a race with Usain Bolt is still faster than 99% of us.
America is a giant piece of land with almost 400 million people. We have the most demographics that are prized by covid. Most people wear that useless blue paper masks, and many put in UNDER their nose. A total war against covid is effectively the Vietnam war. It's mind boggling that FL and Sweden are among the few in the whole world who recognizes this.
What you are too retarded to understand is any of the info in that link. Which includes info on vaccine breakthrough infections, breakthrough disease (serious cases), age breakouts, etc. Fucking putz. On ignore