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Media Try To Cancel In-N-Out Burger Over Refusal To Enforce San Francisco's Vaccine Passports

Plus: The CDC greenlights "mix and match" booster shots, the U.S. is accepting zero Uyghur refugees, and more...

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The knives are coming out for popular California burger joint In-N-Out after the company announced it opposes vaccine passports and media outlets reported that In-N-Out donates to Republican political candidates, the two worst things an American company can do in 2021. The controversy over the famous regional fast-food joint began earlier this week when news broke that its only San Francisco location was temporarily shuttered for refusing to check customers' vaccine status as required by local health authorities.

The restaurant has since been allowed to partially reopen, but its indoor dining room remains closed. This minor kerfuffle might have escaped notice but for the company's strident statement about why it was not checking customers' papers when they try to order a burger.

"We refuse to become the vaccination police for any government. It is unreasonable, invasive, and unsafe to force our restaurant Associates to segregate Customers into those who may be served and those who may not, whether based on the documentation they carry, or any other reason," said the company. "We fiercely disagree with any government dictate that forces a private company to discriminate against customers who choose to patronize their business. This is clear governmental overreach and is intrusive, improper, and offensive."

California's lockdowns last year sparked episodes of organized non-compliance from small businesses that had been ordered to close. Mandated vaccine passports have thus far proven less controversial. Certainly, no other corporate chain has openly sparred with health officials over the policy.

In-N-Out's refusal to enforce the Bay Area's vaccine mandates has drawn fire from some Bay Area liberals who say the company's stance on vaccines is only its latest expression of political wrongthink.

On Thursday, the San Francisco Chronicle's online home page prominently featured not one, not two, but five stories about In-N-Out.

That included a lead story about the company's donation of $40,000 earlier this year to the California Republican Party during the recall campaign against Gov. Gavin Newsom.

There's nothing objectionable about reporting on publicly available campaign finance data, but that donation's sudden newsworthiness is more puzzling considering the recall campaign against Newsom failed and In-N-Out's donations to California Republicans have circulated in the media for years. It's seemingly part of a trend whereby business owners that do object to pandemic mandates are then subject to obsessive reporting on their politics.

Certainly, the Chronicle's campaign finance story is providing fodder for the newspaper's columnists, who see the donation to the state GOP as a reason to boycott the restaurant entirely.

Tony Bravo, the writer of the Chronicle's Datebook column, suggests In-N-Out's donations over the years to the Republican party, taken together with the Bible verses it prints on its burger wrappers, signals the company's opposition to not only vaccine passports but basic human rights as well.

"There are Bible verses on its packaging, something that has felt like a conservative dog whistle to many LGBTQ people," writes Bravo, adding that "In-N-Out may not be guilty of supporting anti-LGBTQ causes in the same overt way as Chick-Fil-A, but there is certainly guilt by association."

Deeming someone guilty by association is usually considered a bad thing, yet the Chronicle's restaurant critic Soleil Ho goes further, arguing in a separate column that In-N-Out's cult following should have ended long before its stance on vaccine mandates became known. "I can empathize with people wanting to ignore all of the abstract, even unethical stuff about a company when the product they create is really great," writes Ho, but neither In-N-Out's burgers or fries are really worth the moral stain that comes on the side. "It's time to deprogram yourself," Ho writes. "In-N-Out sucks. Get over it."

On the other side of the country, New York magazine has breathed a sigh of relief that the city doesn't have any In-N-Outs of its own to resist New York City's first-in-the-nation vaccine passport system.

In-N-Out's refusal to play vaccine cop might cause the company even more problems than bad press. By not complying with public health orders, it runs the risk of the government shuttering more of its dining rooms. An In-N-Out in Contra Costa county has already been fined for refusing to check customers' vaccine status. The hypercharged, hyperpolarized politics around vaccine mandates could also end up alienating more customers.

In-N-Out's critics, including the Chronicle's columnists, say that they don't want to eat in an environment where they feel unsafe. That's obviously their right. In a more perfect world, customers who aren't as concerned about the risks of eating in a restaurant without a vaccine requirement could continue to patronize In-N-Out (provided they like the food).

But the Bay Area's binding public health order precludes that live-and-let-live option. Luckily for In-N-Out and its many employees, past efforts to boycott the chain over its donations to the California Republican Party have flopped. Heck, Vice President Kamala Harris patronized the restaurant on a trip back to California to oppose the recall that In-N-Out supported.


FREE MINDS

Republican and Democratic administrations taking a hard line on China isn't doing much good for oppressed peoples trying to flee that country. In fiscal year 2021, which runs from October 2020 to September 2021, the U.S. accepted zero Uyghur refugees. The Dispatch has the news:

A recent State Department report on admissions details countries of origin for refugees who were resettled from the beginning of October 2020 through the end of September 2021. According to that document, not a single refugee of Chinese nationality—including Uyghurs and other ethnic minorities from Xinjiang—was resettled in America through the program in that time.

Asked why no Uyghur refugees were resettled, a White House spokesman referred The Dispatch to the State Department and said it is "something we take very seriously and something the president is committed to."

Refugees from China have consistently represented a slim portion of total admissions in recent years, but a downward trend has been especially noticeable since 2016. There were none admitted through the program in fiscal year 2020, one in 2019, six in 2018, 24 in 2017, and 57 in 2016.


COVID-19

Speaking of vaccines, federal public health authorities are approving more rounds of them. On Thursday, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) officially endorsed people's ability to get booster shots of the Johnson & Johnson and Moderna vaccine. It also endorsed people who'd gotten one of three approved vaccines to choose a different brand for their booster shot, reports the Washington Post.

"The evidence shows that all three COVID-19 vaccines authorized in the United States are safe—as demonstrated by the over 400 million vaccine doses already given," said CDC director Rochelle Walensky said in a statement Thursday night.


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  • The U.S. House of Representatives holds former White House advisor Steve Bannon in contempt for refusing to comply with subpoenas from a committee set up to investigate the events of January 6.
  • The Los Angeles Times has a fun story on the city's weirdest vanity license plates. We should be seeing even weirder ones after motorists' won a free speech lawsuit against the state, which had been rejecting vanity plate applications it considered profane.

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417 responses to “Media Try To Cancel In-N-Out Burger Over Refusal To Enforce San Francisco's Vaccine Passports

  1. Biden just said first responders should be FIRED for refusing the vaccine. Wow.

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    4. We really need to cleanse these scumbag marxists from our country.

  2. I guess it’s no longer patriotic to #RESIST

    1. Progressives still like to question authority, “Daddy, who else shall we send to the camps today?”

    2. #Resist is now #Obey

      1. RESIST → RELIST → RELICT → RELICS → RELIES → RELIER → EELIER → EERIER → AERIER → AERIES → SERIES → SERINS → SERING → SORING → CORING → COMING → HOMING → HOMINY → HOMILY → HOMELY → COMELY → COMPLY

    3. Hey are SQRLSY or Mike, or any of the other "Libertarians" around to wail endlessly about the evil state of California punishing the free association of businesses with their customers? Or can we only complain about it when a Republican does it?

      1. They all say authoritarianism is fine when done by the left through good intentions.

        1. Somewhat OT, but people always refer to the Left's "good intentions." I've seen no evidence that such good intentions exist. They all come off as vindictive, miserable assholes to me.

          1. They use good intentions of idiots such as homeless savior propagandists, but their primary goal is to breed dependency on the state. They would rather give fish than teach how to fish. And they will always steal most of what they use to help.

            Seattle spends over 50k a year on every homeless person. Most of this money goes to liberal allies who in turn donate to politicians that money. It is why Obama also allowed the doj to direct settlement money to leftist causes.

            It is all graft.

            1. "It is why Obama also allowed the doj to direct settlement money to leftist causes."

              One of the biggest largely unreported scandals of that administration.

              1. Ideally, Obama and most of his administration, including Biden, should end up living out the rest of their lives in prison cells. Ideally in isolation at a SuperMax facility.

        2. And if we fire too many emergency room nurses for not being vaccinated, we'll just have to find some way to ration access. Maybe check patient vaccination status? Panels of experts of some sort?

          1. Politics aside, you have to wonder about the competency of any emergency room nurse who doesn’t want to be vaccinated.

            1. Voluntary vs mandatory. It's really simple for most of us.

              You are a legit cultist

              1. Any medical professional with true professionalism would consider medically sound vs. not medically sound over politics or volunary vs. mandatory.

                But, hey, it has to be about personal attacks on me.

                1. Ahhh yes, TRUE professionalism. Just like TRUE Scotsmen.

                  Perhaps they considered the over 1 million adverse events associated with vaccines including 17,000 deaths, or perhaps they are considering pregnancy and following the vaccine manufacturer's advice to avoid taking the vaccine since there is no data regarding pregnant women and won't be until the safety studies are completed in late 2023.

                  1. Hi, Tulpa!

                  2. Post Hoc, Ergo Proper Hoc (False Causation Fallacy) anyone?

            2. No I don’t.

            3. Unsure where you have the authority to question their determination of their own health.

              Perhaps they wish to get pregnant. Perhaps they already got it. Perhaps they have a medical reason not to. Perhaps they have a religious reason not to.

              You know whose business it is? Not fucking yours.

              1. You know who else’s business it isn’t?

            4. tRuST tHE eXPeRTs!!!!!

              Unless they don't regurgitate my ActBlue talking points PDF.

              I legitimately hope you die of something extremely painful and miserable, Mike. Stomach cancer would be great. ALS better still. I would literally cackle at the side of your deathbed while you choked on your last breath and shit on your grave in front of the funeral director, who would be the only person to show up since you have no family who can stand you.

            5. Quite the contrary, I would expect that emergency room nurses know best.

            6. Politics aside, they typically decide based on scientific information. And are better able to evaluate such information than you.

  3. This minor kerfuffle might have escaped notice but for the company's strident statement about why it was not checking customers' papers when they try to order a burger.

    The elites demand Americans pit themselves against each other, and it will happen one way or another. There will be no conscientious objectors.

    1. How dare they talk back!

    2. "The elites demand Americans pit themselves against each other, and it will happen one way or another. There will be no conscientious objectors."

      It's already happened. Many of us are just waiting fort the shooting to start.

      1. Sadly, some here are not just waiting. They are salivating over the possibility.

          1. The antifa people that went around beating jews in the street during iron dome? The people that shot and killed others wearing Maga hats?

          2. I'll cop to it. Watching Mike choke to death on his own blood like his child-fucking hero Joseph Rosenbaum would give me a nearly orgasmic level of satisfaction, even if he ate the bullet from somebody else's gun. Seeing totalitarians get their just desserts is wonderful. Anyone who didn't love seeing Ceausescu get strung up in the public square isn't fully human.

            1. Ceauşescu wasn't "strung up." He and his bitch wife Elena were given a speedy public trial, followed by an even speedier public execution by firing squad, more than they ever gave their millions of victims. I know whatof I speak; I saw it on CNN Christmas Day, 1989 and the video is still up on Dailymotion:

              L'exécution de Nicolae Ceaușescu - Archive INA (Trigger Warning: Graphic Violence and Gore.)
              https://dai.ly/xfdvva

              And, no, I do not wish this fate on White Mike or anyone else merely for disagreeable or dubious postings on a Comment section.

    3. Business vehemently resists a de facto fascist policy (government co-opting private businesses to enforce government policy), the fourth estate has a hissy fit, in favor of the fascist policy. What a world we live in.

      1. In fairness, WaPo and NYT have always supported fascism.

        1. Fascism has always been good for the elite class.

    4. I tried In-N-Out once: not impressed. If they can't get the basics right, why would I care about their "secret menu?" But good on them for standing up to the police state. And like all corporations, they give to both parties.

    5. Sometimes strident is good. On the other hand, KERFUFFLE??? (Reason has used that choice word on past occasions. Channeling the Windsors, are we?)

  4. FJB

    1. Let's Go Brandon

      1. Fuck Tulpa!

        1. Fuck lying ass Dee.

        2. And they say the left can't meme...

        3. No, fuck you, you goddamn Marxist.

  5. NAZI Trump supporter with Hitler stache discharged from military for role in Jan 6 insurrection:

    Naval investigators began looking into Hale-Cusanelli after receiving a tip from an information who said Hale-Cusanelli admitted to breaking into the Capitol as part of the mob attack. Hale-Cusanelli showed the informant videos on his cell phone that depicted Hale-Cusanelli "making harassing and derogatory statements toward Capitol Police officers both inside and outside the Capitol building," according to the NCIS affidavit.

    Hale-Cusanelli also allegedly told other pro-Trump rioters to "advance" during the attack, giving both "voice and hand signals to other rioters in the raging crowd, federal authorities have said.

    The attack by supporters of then-President Donald Trump disrupted Congress' certification of the presidential election.

    Prosecutors alleged Hale-Cusanelli's extremist ideology was the "driving force" in his life. Authorities say he posted YouTube videos promoting far-right and anti-Semitic views and spoke to the informant about the need for a civil war in the United States to achieve a "clean bill of health" for society, quoting Thomas Jefferson that the "tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

    Interviews with Hale-Cusanelli's co-workers at Earle revealed a history of racist and anti-Semitic remarks and behavior, including when he allegedly showed up to the base sporting a "Hitler mustache" in 2020, according to prosecutors.

    A Navy petty officer told investigators with the NCIS that Hale-Cusanelli once said, "Hitler should have finished the job."

    https://www.app.com/story/news/crime/jersey-mayhem/2021/10/21/timothy-hale-cusanelli-colts-neck-nj-capitol-riot-discharged/6117031001/

    could be one of you Peanuts

    1. OMG! There were real legitimate wankers and troublemakers in that oddball collection of protestors? Who'da thunk it?

      1. It only took a few months to find one.

    2. While Reason’s perverted pedo pushing Palin ‘plug preaches progressivism.

      1. Just a different flavor of fascism.

        1. Used Buttplug flavored.

    3. turd lies. It's what turd does. turd is a pathological liar too damned stupid to know he's lying and equally that the rest of us do.
      If turd posts something which isn't a lie, it is entirely accidental.
      turd lies; it's all turd does.

  6. Sin and out.

    1. Nearest In-N-Out Burgers to me is in Houston, TX. On my next trip over there, I will risk unholy injury to my digestive tract, just to show my support for their political bravery. Here's hoping they become the Chik-Fil-A of the new decade. You know, to the extent that their burgers go through you like a speeding container ship through a boat ramp.

      ... taken together with the Bible verses it prints on its burger wrappers ...

      Oh, hell, yeah!!!

      1. Swing by a Hobby Lobby afterwards.

        1. The In and Out is actually closer to a Michaels.

      2. Maybe tell them to hold the mayo?

      3. burgers go through you like a speeding container ship through a boat ramp.

        So... They wait in your intestine for months on end?

      4. Seeing that they are still going strong, I'd say Chik-Fil-A is the Chik-Fil-A of the next decade.

      5. Maybe some joker on the inside of the organization will put the text of Ezekiel 4 on the labels. Yummy! /sarc

  7. Republican and Democratic administrations taking a hard line on China isn't doing much good for oppressed peoples trying to flee that country.

    Always accept people from other countries fleeing the commies. Unlike those fleeing the commies in California, they tend to understand the value of individual liberty and don't want the commie garbage repeated in their new home.

    1. I agree, we should accept them.

      I have seen comments from right-wing commenters here recently saying we have to be super cautious about screening refugees from Afghanistan because they might be terrorists pretending to be refugees.

      Also, in past conversations about accepting immigrants from Latin American countries, I have seen right-wing commenters many, many times claiming that they will bring socialism with them, because they obviously love their socialism, despite the fact that they are trying to flee their current socialist country.

      1. Or just plain rape people based on cultural differences. Like yesterday.

        1. Or stab some random infidel.

          1. Or live off tax dollars for years.

      2. Shorter Mike: We are in agreement, and that cannot stand, so I'm going to pick a fight. And then when people respond to my calling them out, I will complain about "mean girls" who always seem to rise to my provocation.

        *yawn*

      3. I have seen comments from right-wing commenters here recently saying we have to be super cautious about screening refugees from Afghanistan because they might be terrorists pretending to be refugees.

        Here is White Mike charging in to move the goalposts. Here is hint, douchebag, the Afghani are not commies. But they are Islamic fundamentalists.

    2. Let's trade our commie-inclined Californians for the people in Taiwan, who rightfully fear the CCP. Newsom can then openly pal around with Pooh.

    3. Unlike those fleeing the commies in California, they tend to understand the value of individual liberty and don’t want the commie garbage repeated in their new home.

      The problem is that their kids end up getting indoctrinated in the precepts of cultural Marxism anyway. Same with most any other immigrant group, regardless of where they came from.

    4. I'd ask...what Democrat administration is tough on China? The last three certainly were and are not even remotely so.

  8. The evidence shows that all three COVID-19 vaccines authorized in the United States are safe—as demonstrated by the over 400 million vaccine doses already given...

    Just ask any mainstream journalist. They all been diligently digging into the data and not at all taking the pharmaceutical company/public health agency revolving door's word for it.

    1. Plus, we have no long term experience with this new technology that killed lots of lab animals that we never used on people before .

    2. About 17,000 deaths and 80000 hospitalizations in 400 million doses. Seems safe enough.

    3. I was just pondering yesterday, all of the ways that the FDA and American medical establishment in general have squandered their credibility over the years. Those elderly folks out there can remember when eggs were the "Incredible, Edible Egg", then they were bad for you because of cholesterol, then there was "good cholesterol" and bad. Not to mention the 20-30 billion dollars spent on Crestor and related drugs, when early on the studies showed yeah, it lowered cholesterol, but had zero effect on long term illness or mortality.

      Only 25% of Americans are salt sensitive, and a smaller percentage of those go on to develop high blood pressure because of it, but we are still under ever tightening government mandates to lower salt in every food item. And the FDA has approved tests to determine salt-sensitivity, but like the DNA markers, they won't allow the public access to the tests because of vaguely worded fears of self-harm, from knowing information about yourself.

      The FDA (along with the class action lawyers) have clobbered simple vaccines for Lyme Disease, have drug out approvals for needed medicines for decades while afflicted people died, have thrown up obstacles and banned payment, literally killing people on organ transplant waiting lists with their inaction and mealy-mouthed ethical maunderings. At the same time, doing the drug warriors' bidding and leaving people in real pain, suicidal levels of pain, with their ridiculous regulatory hoops to make getting pain relief difficult for abusers without regard to people who actually need the drugs.

      So when I see Fauci up there, running his mouth about stuff he is manifestly unqualified to speak on, I don't think that he is destroying the credibility of the government to speak on health issues. I'm thinking, what credibility is there at all, and why should I be listening to this clown? Triple masking, 2 year olds masking after they been vaccinated, vaccines are better than natural immunity: the more nonsense that comes out, the more I know nothing they say at all can be trusted.

      And let's not get started on the lung flutes ...

      1. Ask Fauci about his success with AIDS.

        1. He saved so many with his water fountain regulations.

        2. Or his opposition to Ebola quarantining.

      2. If gun violence and drug abuse are pandemics, anything can be a pandemic.

        Getting burned on the waffle iron in that hotel breakfast buffet line? That is definitely a pandemic I would like to see addressed.

        1. Sounds like you’re not waffling on this issue.

      3. Those elderly folks out there can remember when eggs were the “Incredible, Edible Egg”, then they were bad for you because of cholesterol, then there was “good cholesterol” and bad.

        The claim that eggs are bad for you has always been unscientific quackery. People have been eating eggs for nutrition going back to the caveman days.

        Our obesity epidemic is due far more to the wide availability of refined sugars and heavy consumption of junk food and soda, not things like eggs. This is why the mandates over the vaccine are so stupid--we lose 600,000-700,000 people every year from heart disease and diabetes. If the Branch Covidians were really all that concerned about human lives, they'd be demanding that everyone be required to do a one-hour workout every day.

        1. It's really been telling how Covidian fat asses start making excuses for why this doesn't apply, because being obese is either due to addiction and is a mental health issue, or just suddenly happens to skinny people when they get old. Besides the obvious bullshit claims here, it's a lot easier to get jabbed with a flu therapeutic every three months than it is to exert yourself to an extent greater than what's needed to waddle from the recliner to the fridge and back.

        2. Fatties have had a year and a half to flatten their curves. But it is just easier to demand healthy folks take unnecessary precautions.

      4. And remember when people actually thought fat made peoole fat and not metabolism? And how cholesterol came mostly from diet and not the human liver? And how ulcers were caused by stress and spicy foods? (Are spicy foods and "spicy colds" related?)

        Sound to me like we've had a whole Hellua lot of medical "misinformation."

        1. Oh, and in about 30 years, we went from Doctors recommending Camel Cigarettes to sayng that everything gives you cancer:

          More Doctors Smoke Camels Than Any Other Cigarette
          https://youtu.be/gCMzjJjuxQI

          "Cancer"--Joe Jackson
          https://youtu.be/EM2MGN_w4sU

      5. Those elderly folks out there can remember when eggs were the “Incredible, Edible Egg”

        Dude, I'm not that old and I can remember when Crisco was better for you because it came from vegetables. Fuck you.

        And get off my lawn.

    4. I don't consider you fully jabbed until you have had at least one dose each of three different brands.

    5. Let's see, they lied about 95% efficacy. What else are they lying about?

      1. No they didn’t. The numbers from initial clinical trials were not lies. There was just no way to know what would happen 8 months down the road.

        I will probably get a booster in a few months. No big deal for me. Even with that there is no way to know what will happen in another 8 months.

  9. In-N-Out may not be guilty of supporting anti-LGBTQ causes in the same overt way as Chick-Fil-A.

    What is it that Chick-Fil-A did that was anti-LGBTQ again?

    1. They believed in Jesus.

      1. Their chicken sorta sucks and they're kinda creepy the way they're so nice. It feels fake and over the top like I'm being served by a cult. Now it's quick but because it's always packed it's not actually quick so basically it's so so chicken and weird people.

        1. Germane to the discussion of why they are considered anti-LGBTQIA+.

          1. It’s not every day that the leader of a big business steps into a national debate that has the potential to offend many of its customers.

            But Dan Cathy, president of the popular fast food chain Chick-fil-A, has done just that, saying on a radio show that “we’re inviting God’s judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at him and say we know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage. And I pray God’s mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude that thinks we have the audacity to redefine what marriage is all about.”

            1. Now think of the arrogance and ignorance of this Cathy mfer. He thinks he knows what the God of the universe wants and oh it just happens to be exactly what Cathy likes. What a dumb dangerous delusional arrogant pos.

              1. A really terrible act blue intern. Doesn't even hide the anti religious bigotry.

                1. You're a real piece of shit and there's a decent God out there you're fucked.

                  1. This from a steaming pile of lefty shit.
                    Fuck off and die.

                  2. And point proven. Lol.

                    A really terrible intern.

                    1. A really terrible person as well.

                    2. Give him a break. The college just went back to in-person learning, and pussy-mask is terrified. He needs a few months as an intern until the next COVID panic shuts things down again.

                  3. And the "Decent" God, I assume, agrees with you on most thing, eh?

                    Are your God to yourself, Sullum?

                  4. No, YOU are an evil piece of shit. Dp Jesse is a decent guy. You owe him an apology.

                    You should be thanking all of us for being so nice to you. You deserve so much worse than the way you’re treated here.

              2. Aren't you doing the exact same thing right here?

            2. How dare he pray for God's mercy!

            3. Wait, how is your opinion of their food, staff and convenience germane to the original post or this follow -up of what can only be described as the lunatic rantings of someone whose taste buds are influenced by his politics?

              Don't like their politics...fine by me. Don't eat there for that reason...whatever suits you, suits me. But there is no logical connection between a discussion of their food and why they are considered homophobic.

          2. It's 2SLGBTQQIA+, shit lord!

        2. You laid an egg with that post. Trying to hen peck their food. If they ever take over, it would be a coop d’etat.

          1. He didn’t mention the hot chicks that work there.

          2. Is this same Dan Cathy everyone here is praising?

            Chick-Fil-A CEO: White People Should Shine Blacks’ Shoes to Show ‘Sense of Shame,’ for Racism
            https://youtu.be/SxeEhuT4Cao

            Looks to me like Dan Cathy is making a merger of Homophobic Fundamentalist Christianity and Critical Race Theory Wokeism!

            Look, Dan, condescending to prospective customers and virtue signalling with food is like playing with your food! It's not polite and it's sickenkng while people are eating!

            I'll just stick with eating at home and treating people as equals regardless of "race" or orientation, thank you very much.

            1. Not seeing people praising him. Seeing some not blasting him, but who is saying "Wow, WHAT A GUY he is"?

              1. MP and Derp-o-Matic 6000 are making Cathy out to be a martyr. Like he's serving The Host with his chicken patties and getting rousted by the Roman Centurions.

                And Wokism that rightly gets condemned from everybody else somehow gets a pass when it comes from Cathy. The whole shoe-shine ritual is just embarassing and ludicrous to watch.

            2. Put down that cocktail wiener and get a napkin.

              1. Cocktail weiners? Nah! Ball Park Brats, Wimpy-style sliders, and Lox spread on a Ritz are my idea of casual entertainment,

          3. He doesn’t get out much. Crowds put him in a fowl mood and make him crawl back into his shell. Still he shouldn’t expect all of us to agree to live under the proggie yoke.

            1. Cooking for yourself is not living under anybody's yolk. (Ha!
              Ya missed one.)

              If anything, learning to grow, raise, prepare, and preserve food is a bull-wark against depening on Uncle Sugar for sustenance. It's nothing to squawk at.

        3. You might want to read the question again.

        4. "...they’re kinda creepy the way they’re so nice..."

          This may be a clue as to why shitlord constantly shows up here to find nothing but abuse and insults.
          It takes a warped personality to do so. Glad he's there and I'm not; sick piece of lefty shit.

        5. "Their chicken sorta sucks and they’re kinda creepy the way they’re so nice."

          You can always tell the partisans when they do this. If they were really principled, they would say, "I like Chick-Fil-A but the beliefs of their leaders are too much, so I call on everyone to sacrifice."

          But they cannot do that- why? Because people like Strudel believe that a person having a wrong idea makes them untouchable and irredeemable. In his crypto-religious outlook, there aren't people making different decisions based on different inputs. There are good people, and there are bad people. And obviously if you are a bad person, it means that you can't even make good chicken.

          It really is the laziest form of thinking. Strudel is so incapable of nuance that he cannot stomach making tradeoffs- so he has to delude himself that good chicken sandwiches aren't that good, and that nice people are actually "creepy"- as it is the only way he can believe that these people are really the ideological lepers he wants them to be.

          1. he cannot stomach making tradeoffs- so he has to delude himself that good chicken sandwiches aren’t that good

            I don't know if that was intentional, but it was hilarious.

          2. I would make the observation that many on the left are so psychologically dependent on maintaining their imagined superiority that it actually changes their perceptions. Their intense anxiety of the politics of the owners causes nausea and they associate that with the chicken. Their dis-ease at being in the restaurant causes the friendliness of the staff to feel scripted and unreal.

            It is projection, 100%. It is sad what social media has done to these people.

            1. I suspect most of them would find some other way to be miserable without social media.

        6. Their chicken sorta sucks and they’re kinda creepy the way they’re so nice.

          Lord Blue Balls doesn't consider customer service to be good unless they spit in his food.

          Now it’s quick but because it’s always packed it’s not actually quick so basically it’s so so chicken and weird people.

          LOL, Christ, talk about low-effort.

        7. "Their chicken sorta sucks"

          Nope.

          "they’re kinda creepy the way they’re so nice."

          Well, they don't really know YOU.

          "It feels fake and over the top like I’m being served by a cult."

          Yup, THEY are the problem. Good customer service is "cultish".

          "Now it’s quick but because it’s always packed it’s not actually quick so basically it’s so so chicken and weird people."

          Are you discussing your most recent family get together, Sullum?

        8. they’re kinda creepy the way they’re so nice

          *barf*

          That says way more about you than it does about Chick-Fil-A employees.

    2. Donated to Christian charities.

    3. Iirc, Chick-fil-A founder Dan Kathy donated money to a group that promoted traditional Christian values. The horror.

      1. It is, to a Marxist.

    4. They provided free catering to a Bible-study group that believes marriage is between a man and a woman.

      1. What monsters.

        1. Also, last I checked, they broke their "No Sundays" rule and opened on Sunday to feed the survivors of the Pulse nightclub shooting.

          You know, because of the homophobia.

    5. Chick Fila is guilty of dissenting against leftist culture. And reason considers that a bad thing. They are "Libertarian" like that.

      1. D.C. cocktail party libertarian.

      2. Chick Fila

        They make chicken sneakers instead of chicken snackers?

        1. They compete with Converse’s Cluck Taylor.

      3. “There are Bible verses on its packaging, something that has felt like a conservative dog whistle to many LGBTQ people," writes Bravo, adding that "In-N-Out may not be guilty of supporting anti-LGBTQ causes in the same overt way as Chick-Fil-A, but there is certainly guilt by association."

        The Democrats will tell you who they are every time if you let them. Now bible verses are “conservative dog whistles”.

        Fucking psychopaths.

  10. "It's newsworthiness is more puzzling"

    Yeah sure Reason dude. You guys reported this story and loved it when it was convenient for your agenda. And now you're reporting on it again because you found an angle to push your agenda. You're an agenda driven website that only reports things that are related to the agenda.

    1. That has never happened anyplace else ever!

      1. No one tell LoS about literally any other news outlet in the history of news outlets. The Hearst vs. Pulitizer feud might make his brain explode.

        1. I believe LoS was engaging in sarcasm in his comment above: making fun of the conservative commenters here who continually accuse "unreason" of having a liberal agenda.

          1. And now you’re reporting on it again because you found an angle to push your agenda. You’re an agenda driven website that only reports things that are related to the agenda.

            That isn't sarcasm. That's his honest criticism of Reason. Would you disagree with that criticism?

            Also, I thought you were the proponent of not trying to determine what others thought without hard evidence that they think it? Can I see the proof where he details how this post is sarcasm?

            1. Wonder if mike is defending his sock...

            2. 1. He was serious? Is that why he wrote a paragraph in which he repeats the word “agenda” over and over, to make his paragraph sound comically rant-like?
              2. I would very much disagree with anyone who says Reason has an agenda. Individual writers may have a bit of an agenda, but they are upfront about it. One of the best things about Reason is they don’t have an overarching agenda, and they let their writers have individual opinions.
              3. I started my comment with “I believe…” which was very much put their with intent to acknowledge that I cannot read his mind.

              1. Keep quiet.

              2. Nobody thought his post was in the realm of comedy. Only someone who wrote that post backtracking would make the claim like sarc claims all his idiotic posts are sarcasm.

                You seem really invested in LoS...

                1. Dee is invested in defending all the lefties here.

          2. And white Mike white mikes the left again.

          3. Familiarize yourself with the appeal to ridicule fallacy. LoS has offered several great examples in these comments.

            1. So, you are agreeing with me then that LoS seemed to be being sarcastic?

              1. No, he actually didn't agree with you on anything. Luckily for you you're far, far too stupid to notice.

    2. Fuck off and die, shitlord.

    3. Here is LARP of Startlez, who definitely has no agenda, calling baseball spectators trash and defending it as a judgement of their character.

      https://reason.com/2021/10/21/democrats-still-want-to-spend-trillions-but-they-dont-want-to-raise-taxes-to-do-it/#comment-9169942

      Dehumanize, disarm, disenfranchise, dispossess, dismember. This is the way.

    4. Yes, and OpenBorders-libraltarian is the 'Keeper of Reason's Agenda'. OBL posts are spot on. 🙂

  11. One person was killed and another injured on the set of a movie being directed by Alec Baldwin after the actor accidentally discharged a prop gun.

    If Baldwin deliberately cocked and fired the weapon that isn't an accidental discharge.

    1. Somebody call columbo.

    2. Another tragic Covid death.

    3. All firearms are always loaded. Always point the muzzle in a safe direction. Sounds like manslaughter.

      1. I look forward to his PSA’s about gun safety.

        1. Looks like we need federal common sense Hollywood prop gun control laws.

          1. Just ban guns in movies and TV. They already essentially did this with smoking. While they are at it they might as well ban the filming of cis sex scenes.

            1. But keep the girl/girl stuff right? RIGHT?

              1. Yup. Not cis.

            2. In a documentary about WWII I watched this weekend that used restored footage to show the horrors of the war, including images of dead and mutilated bodies, there was a warning at the beginning that the documentary also showed (gasp) smoking.

              1. Lol. I believe a single scene with smoking will now get you an R rating from the ratings guys. I remember seeing that in the explanation box where they sometimes put things like "Graphic Nudity".

              2. It's especially funny in light of today's generation. Sure, we've saturated you with killing Nazis and dissenters across media from Wolfenstein to Hunger Games and it hasn't made you dramatically more violent but one errant image of smoking without warning and you might start trying to set fire to and smoke the nearst pencil or nerf dart.

      2. The aggravating thing is that Baldwin pointed the prop and pulled the trigger but will allow it to be characterized as a tragic accident. Meanwhile, he and his ilk are all for regular gun owners being charged with felonies and even murder if their property were to be used completely without their permission or knowledge.

        How can we possibly believe we have freedom when an active participant in a death is not culpable and a victim of theft whose property is used in a death is culpable?

        1. I'm sure Baldwin will insist on being treated according to the rules he advocates for others.

          Man, it's a lot easier to pretend to have a straight face when I'm typing.

      3. Good man here, Chumby. Also, ever aim at anyone or anything you don't intend to lay to waste utterly, aim for center mass until the target isn't moving, and always know what is around and behind your target.

        The firearm is the closest thing to a sacramental object an Unbeliever can have. Secured in a shoulder holster, it is like a Phylatelic for those without a prayer.

        The Alec Baldwin story is no surprise. Scratch his history and you'll see a long string of disregard for life and limb. And the man, like most Hollyweirdos, has probably never even smelled powder.

    4. Odds this was done during a famous Baldwin anger outburst?

      1. “What?”

    5. He can blame it on his Trump character. And Rooshians.

    6. Obviously this can be blamed on the NRA and all Republicans.

    7. Shooting on location.

      1. Clearly, Alec did not look through the camera eye.

    8. If Baldwin deliberately cocked and fired the weapon that isn’t an accidental discharge.

      This is just mind blowing. Just absolutely fucking mind-blowing. They don't even need a gun *or bullets* that actually shoot. I mean, in the 80s when you could pop into a hardware store and get something for $50, it kinda made sense to use a real firearm and that debris in the barrel could be lethal if you put the gun to your temple. But in 2021, when you can print a plastic replica, that would to nothing but explode with live ammo, that would cost fractions of a penny on the dollar?

      Just astoundingly stupid.

    9. This was not an AD. It was a negligent discharge. Assume all weapons are loaded. Personally inspect any weapon anyone ever hands you. Never point a gun at anyone unless you intend to kill them.

      I'm sorry this happened, and I'm sure Alec Baldwin is wracked with unbearable guilt, but he's responsible for failing to handle the weapon safely. He was negligent.

  12. One person was killed and another injured on the set of a movie being directed by Alec Baldwin after the actor accidentally discharged a prop gun.

    You are worthless, Alec Baldwin!

    1. Arec Bardwin is how it's pronounced in North Korea I believe.

    2. Alec Baldwin’s acting has killed more people than me being unvaccinated and without a mask.

      1. It's funny because it is true.

      2. I hate that his big film breakthrough came in one of the best "conservative" films of the last 30 (+1, whatever) years.

        1. Beetlejuice?

  13. The Associated Press claims a counter-protester screamed profanities at peaceful demonstrators who were protesting Dave Chappelle's latest comedy special at a Netflix employee walkout. It turns out that the counter-protester did not scream profanities and the peaceful demonstrators weren't entirely peaceful.

    I'm beginning to suspect the Associated Press might not be the totally truthful, bias-free organization we trust.

    1. I’m sure lord of losers will get right on this whole agenda thing AP must have.

    2. I saw some footage. The protesters grabbed a counter-protester's sign and destroyed it. The tolerant left ain't so tolerant.

      1. Intolerance in the name of tolerance is now called anti-intolerance and is going to be made mandatory in all state-run reeducation camps schools.

      2. And after destroying his sign and leaving him with only a broken stick, they started screaming "He's got a weapon! He's got a weapon!"

        1. For people who didn't actually see the footage and are assuming Derp is being facetious, no, that really happened.

      3. Then, after destroying it, IMMEDIATELY screamed that "He has a weapon!"

    3. And we're the ones screaming profanities, including the somewhat odd "Repent, motherf***er!"

      Evidence that trans issues are religion to the Netflix protestors.

      1. “Repent, motherf***er!”

        Oedipus Wrecks.

  14. Virginia Dems Push To Ditch Witness Requirement For Absentee Ballots As Youngkin Gains Ground
    https://thefederalist.com/2021/10/20/virginia-dems-push-to-ditch-witness-requirement-for-absentee-ballots-as-youngkin-gains-ground/

    Virginia Democrats are pressing Gov. Ralph Northam to waive the witness signature requirement for absentee ballots cast by mail for next month’s statewide elections.

    According to local outlet InsideNova, the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors voted in a 9-1 decision to submit a letter to Northam, claiming that acquiring a witness signature puts individuals at risk of catching the Wuhan virus.

    “No one should have their ballot rejected because they’re unwilling to risk their health and safety to vote,” said the letter’s original sponsor, Chair Jeffrey McKay. “We want to be a county that promotes voter participation and doesn’t punish people.”

    “During the 2020 election cycle, Virginia made historic strides to expand voting access while protecting the health and safety of our residents as well as the integrity of our electoral process. This progress should be extended to the signature requirement,” he added in a separate statement.

    The board’s lone Republican Pat Herrity voted against the measure, saying that revoking the requirement would be a “blow to election integrity.”

    “Witness signatures are important as they provide another line of defense against voter fraud,” he said. “They’ve been deemed important enough by the General Assembly that they were reestablished outside the state of emergency.”

    Herrity also added that waiving the requirement now would be “problematic,” given that early voting in the state began in mid-September and many absentee ballots have already been mailed to Virginia voters.

    “To do this in the middle of an election process in the name of COVID I think is nonsensical,” he said.

    1. Hmm the Democrats are really starting to sweat this election.

      1. I suspect that their internal polling is even worse than what the media polling shows, perhaps much more so.

    2. "No one should have their desired election outcome rejected because actual people did not legally vote the way the ruling party desired."

    3. Simple: Just require witnesses to provide proof of Vaccination, and everything works out, right?

  15. Lockdowns: successful enough to be needed for climate, unsuccessful enough to need vaccine passports

    Report: World Needs Equivalent Of Pandemic Lockdown Every Two Years To Meet Paris Carbon Emission Goals
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2021/03/03/report-world-needs-equivalent-of-pandemic-lockdown-every-two-years-to-meet-paris-carbon-emission-goals/?sh=124c2fff6dee

    1. We we stopped all activities forever, we would have utopia!

      1. Including eating and breathing.

        1. Miranda

    2. It's called Doublethink.

      1. I’d think twice before using that term.

  16. "We refuse to become the vaccination police for any government. It is unreasonable, invasive, and unsafe to force our restaurant Associates to segregate Customers into those who may be served and those who may not, whether based on the documentation they carry, or any other reason," said the company. "We fiercely disagree with any government dictate that forces a private company to discriminate against customers who choose to patronize their business. This is clear governmental overreach and is intrusive, improper, and offensive."

    LOL

    Sanctuary Restaurants.

    Bake that Burger!

    1. Let's go, Newsome!

  17. Investigation hits Russian oligarch Deripaska over origins of trump russia. Almost like it was Hillary campaign colluding. Which we know since Steele admitted to using Russian contacts to form the dossier.

    https://thefederalist.com/2021/10/22/fbi-raid-on-oleg-deripaska-is-bad-for-russia-collusion-hoaxers-not-trump/

    1. Obviously a subversive Congress plotting sedition.

    2. Muh private pseudo-state company.

  18. One way to fix this, empty US grocery store shelves:

    https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/13/how-a-russians-grocery-store-trip-in-1989-exposed-the-lie-of-socialism/
    Now compare that footage to the images of Yeltsin shopping at a U.S. supermarket. The contrast is undeniable. Yeltsin’s experience that day ran contrary to everything he knew. A longtime member of the Communist Party who had lived his entire life in a one-party system that punished dissent harshly, Yeltsin had been taught over and over that socialism wasn’t just more equitable, but more efficient.

    His eyes were opened that day, and the revelation left the future Russian president feeling sick.

    “When I saw those shelves crammed with hundreds, thousands of cans, cartons and goods of every possible sort, for the first time I felt quite frankly sick with despair for the Soviet people,” Yeltsin later wrote in his autobiography, “Against the Grain.” “That such a potentially super-rich country as ours has been brought to a state of such poverty! It is terrible to think of it.”

    Yeltsin was not the only person fooled, of course. There is copious documentation of Western intellectuals beguiled by the Soviet system. These individuals, who unlike Yeltsin did not live in a state-controlled media environment, saw the Soviet system as both economically and morally superior to American capitalism despite the brutal methods employed in the workers’ paradise.

    “I have seen the future, and it works,” the Progressive Era journalist Lincoln Steffens famously said.

    1. The only way to deal with people who crave communism is to send them there.

    2. That Yeltsin's reaction was more "What have we done?" and not naked envy is interesting. How many American leftists would have that reaction today?

    3. The comparison aside, this really shows a critical weakness to the just-in-time supply system, and the short-sightedness of our economic relationship with China. Shutting things down for any length of time and then imposing restrictions on the links in the logistical chain ends up throwing huge amounts of sand in the gears of that machine.

      It doesn't help matters that the Calitards have imposed "green" regulations on the trucking industry, and that it's the closest port area between Chinese suppliers and the rest of the US.

      The only way to fix this is to start ramping back manufacturing operations in China so California can't fuck up things for the rest of us by bottlenecking the supply lines. Ideally, this would be followed by giving the SF-SD spine the Carthage treatment and rebuilding from scratch, but that's a solution for another day.

  19. In a story almost completely ignored at reason for 4 years... yes it is still ongoing....

    New evidence shows kamala working directly with planned parenthood, one ofnher primary donors, to go after journalist David Daleiden over public videos taken of an abortion conference and discussions with abortion officials in public settings.

    Her office passed PP videos after a raid on David's house and then worked to formulate what they could charge him with.

    Again, a story reason has chosen to essentially ignore.

      1. Black Lives Matter but only when they are old enough to vote.

    1. If Reason reported on this, someone might think they were against abortion.

      1. If Reason reported on this, someone might think they were
        against abortion police abuse of power.

        1. Damn, I messed up that tag.

    2. They also ignored that she falsified DNA evidence to keep a guy on death row

  20. IG reaffirms McCabe lied multiple times during the IG investigation. Yet biden made McCabe whole and then some despite this.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/justice/inspector-general-insists-mccabe-lied-repeatedly-after-biden-doj-reverses-firing

    1. "McCabe “lacked candor” with FBI Director James Comey, FBI investigators, and inspector general investigators about his authorization to leak sensitive information to the Wall Street Journal that revealed the existence of an FBI investigation into the Clinton Foundation."

      1. Now go figure out what that term means dummy. The IG gas been very clear on the past.

      2. From the same report you just quoted:

        "After the release of that report, which concluded 'the evidence is substantial' that McCabe misled investigators 'knowingly and intentionally...'"

        But sure, go ahead and stick with "lacked candor."

  21. https://twitter.com/KyleMartinsen_/status/1451351386516439040

    "I’m not sure what to do with my hands” — Ricky Bobby

    1. He is very ill.

      1. Looks like President Kamala might happen before the midterms after all.

    2. Anybody see his speech in Scranton the other day? The idea that other world leaders are watching this man is terrifying.

  22. Harvard Trained The People Overseeing China’s Genocide Camps
    https://dailycaller.com/2021/10/19/harvard-fellowship-recipients-xinjiang-detention-camps-genocide/

    Two officials who oversee detention camps accused of committing genocide against Uyghur Muslims in Xinjiang, China, previously received fellowships from Harvard University, according to research by an Australian think-tank, The Financial Times reported.

    Between 2010 and 2011, Yao Ning studied as an Asia fellow at Harvard University’s Ash Center for Democratic Governance and Innovation while pursuing a doctorate degree, according to a report by the Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI), the Times reported.

    Yao completed his studies in 2014, and he was later “appointed (Chinese Communist Party) Secretary of Maralbeshi County, a small and predominantly Uyghur county where ASPI researchers have identified nine detention facilities built or expanded since 2017,” according to the ASPI report, the Times reported.

    1. To be fair, Harvard has tried to limit Asian enrollments.

    2. to be fair, Harvard is just a branch of the CCP now isn't it?

  23. Benny
    @bennyjohnson
    Biden just said first responders should be FIRED for refusing the vaccine. Wow.

    Watch.

    Posted here apparently in agreement that this is bad.... but attacks Texas for making mandates illegal. Choose a damn lane.

    1. I hate these mandates as much as you and have been fighting against the justifications for them, but the Texas order does not make government imposed mandates illegal. It is a government imposed restriction that business owners cannot choose who works for them based on vaccination status. It takes us further from the dock when it comes to liberty. If Texas was somehow able to restrict the government from imposing these mandates then we would have a different discussion, but what we have here is further restriction on the rights of individuals to make choices that work for them. If I own a small HVAC company and decide that it will be an advantage to employ only vaccinated individuals and tout that in my marketing, then I should have the right to do so. This order restricts that ability.

      I understand the covert fascism argument on this as well. On a lot of topics, we are arguing between being overtly or covertly regulated in our lives. The trouble that I see is if our end goal is more liberty, then adding more layers of government control only makes our job harder. The path out of tyranny is not through adding more layers of tyranny. The Texas EO is just another example of overt fascism because it controls the decisions that business can and cannot make.

      The only winners in Abbott issuing that EO are the two main political parties. They can now use this as a fresh battle to beat on their political opponents. In the end, the American people lose.

      1. Yup, and Texas businesses end up as pawns in a political game, pushed into a no-win situation. So much for Texas’ purported business friendliness.

        1. You are mentally incapable of grasping that when the Federal government orders private companies to act in certain ways, without there being a law passed or so much as a single regulation promulgated, this isn’t “voluntary private corporate action”.
          You're a phony free marketer. Insisting corporations should be able to do things at the behest of the Democrats that you claim you would lose your shit over if the government did directly instead.

        2. At least Stonebraker is misinformed about Texas employment law. White Mike is just a fucking shill ignoring what everyone has been telling him for a week.

          He deserves to be clubbed to death with a fire extinguisher filled with C2O.

      2. "that business owners cannot choose who works for them based on vaccination status"

        Give me one example outside of vaccine manufacturer, where an employees vaccination status matters to the companies bottom line, and I'll believe you.

        1. I am actually not even saying that vaccination status will matter to the bottom line of the employer. That is up to the market to decide.

          Here is where I will go full on Milton Friedman. Every company should be allowed to fully exercise their bigotry or discriminatory behavior, and the market should also be fully allowed to either punish or reward those behaviors.

          It may make no sense (and may be detrimental to the bottom line) for a business to mandate vaccines for their employees, but I want to give them that freedom and let the market decide. I don’t want this decided by some desk jockey in a government building.

          1. Except that Biden's order to OSHA removes their freedom which Abbott's order attempts to restore. You have to completely ignore the order in which the events occurred to think that Abbott is abridging anyone's freedom.

            Plus, see below. Abbott's order doesn't do what you claim it does.

            1. Please see my response below.

              1. I did. You are still wrong. See below.

          2. "Every company should be allowed to fully exercise their bigotry or discriminatory behavior, and the market should also be fully allowed to either punish or reward those behaviors."

            That would be true if it was the companies bigotry or discriminatory behavior, but it isn't and you and I both know it.

            I'm actually angered by your response. As I said above to White Mike, when the Federal government orders private companies to act in certain ways, without there being a law passed or so much as a single regulation promulgated, this isn’t “voluntary private corporate action”.

            You too are a phony free marketer. Insisting corporations should be able to do things at the behest of the Democrats that you would lose your shit over if the government did directly instead.

            You can come back to me with your argument when federal government compulsion isn't on the table.

            1. I actually agree with basically everything you said here except the phony free marketer stuff.

              I completely acknowledge that we have a massive issue with covert fascism. I have struggled with this situation a lot. For me, it still comes down to answering the question: Does giving any government more overt power increase or decrease their ability to covertly regulate our lives? The answer is pretty clear. If the government has more overt power, it can wield way more covert power. If Abbott had been able to directly target government power, I would have been completely on board. The problem is that his EO was fascism itself. If you do not do as the government tells you, you get to feel their wrath. At some point we need to draw a line in the sand. We can't get into the position of fighting fascism with fascism. The citizens will lose.

              I also like to ask the question: If the most evil person on the planet was given this legal precedent would I be ok with that? While I am sympathetic to the intent of Abbott's EO, it sets a terrible precedent. At some point Texas will turn blue and that precedent will then be wielded by someone with much worse ideas.

      3. It is a government imposed restriction that business owners cannot choose who works for them based on vaccination status.

        That is a lie. Texas employers can terminate any employee for any reason. What they can't do under Abbott's order is justify that termination as being 'for cause' and so abrogate their contractual responsibilities to provide benefits and unemployment insurance, nor avoid their obligations under the ADA.

        1. According the EO, the penalty falls under “ Sec. 418.173. PENALTY FOR VIOLATION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT”. This sets the fine to $1000 for compelling an employee to get vaccinated. Not massive, but it still restricts the ability of the business to make its own decisions without being penalized by the government. Even if something has changed, and it works as you explained, there is still a punishment for not doing what the government said to do.

          This is in response to your post above: I agree that Biden EO is more evil than Abbott’s because it takes all choice away for anyone that falls under it. Abbott’s EO gives more choice back to the employee but still robs the employer of their rights. My main issue is that you do not fight tyranny with more tyranny. If we truly believe in liberty, we now have to fight to get rid of two government impositions.

          A hypothetical situation, let’s say that Biden’s EO is rescinded, not fully executed or struck down in court but the Texas law is not. Are Texans more free in that situation? I would definitely say no since the business owners rights are still not being respected.

          1. This sets the fine to $1000 for compelling an employee to get vaccinated.

            Does that negate anything I said? Texas is an at will state. They can ask nicely for vaccination records and then terminate any employees who don't produce them. It says nothing about compelling the records.

            A hypothetical situation, let’s say that Biden’s EO is rescinded, not fully executed or struck down in court but the Texas law is not.

            Irrelevant. Jeffy gets called out on this shit all the time. Your hypothetical is complete bullshit. Look at the actual events that transpired in the correct order.

            You are ignoring the most important point I made. Violating OSHA regulations is considered an egregious violation by the Texas Workforce Commission that oversees unemployment insurance claims. Get fired due to an OSHA violation for not being vaccinated and you will not collect a penny of unemployment. Many employer policies also have caveats that employees fired for cause cannot claim benefits like outstanding vacation and sick days or even unpaid commissions or bonuses.

            Biden's OSHA mandate will see employees fired with nothing except their last paycheck. That is the intention. It is pure fucking evil and Abbott had the the balls to stand up to them.

            If you want to continue to assert that Abbott is restricting freedoms, you are welcome to autoerotically asphyxiate yourself until all brain functions cease.

            1. Maybe I am missing the version of the EO you are describing, but the one that I have seen has the two main points:

              "1. No entity in Texas can compel receipt of a COVID-19 vaccine by any individual, including an employee or a consumer, who objects to such vaccination for any reason of personal conscience, based on a religious belief, or for medical reasons, including prior recovery from COVID-19. I hereby suspend all relevant statutes to the extent necessary to enforce this prohibition.
              2. The maximum fine allowed under Section 4 1 8. 173 of the Texas Government Code and the State’ s emergency management plan shall apply to any “failure to comply with” this executive order. Confinement in jail is not an available penalty for violating this executive order."

              This is from TX EO 40.

              The $1000 fine does change things. While this EO may be a finger in the eye of Biden, it is still fascism. The government is dictating that a private entity must comply with the demands of the government or receive its wrath. This sets a horrible precedent that can then be further taken advantage of to restrict our rights. Abbott is 100% restricting the rights of private businesses. This may have reinstated some rights to the employees and is in some way fighting the fascist EO from Biden, but it is still the textbook definition of fascism.

              As I said in my original post, America is now getting into the awkward position of arguing between being overtly and covertly regulated by the government. The thing you need to ask yourself is: does giving the government more overt power increase or decrease their ability to wield covert power? The answer to that is clear. The more overt power they have, the more they can covertly control businesses and people. Expanding the power of the TX gov may seem like it has some short term benefits, but the citizens lose in the long run.

              I believe that my hypothetical is completely relevant. I am not at all ignoring the conditions that lead to this, but you have to assess all expansions of government power through multiple lenses to determine where things actually stand. The TX EO on its own is a horrible creeping of government power. It should be rejected even if the intent was valid. If this EO limited the power of the government somehow, I would have defended it.

              1. What the fuck are you going on about? There is nothing in what you just posted that restricts any employer from firing whoever they want whenever they want just like they could 2 weeks ago.

                I hereby suspend all relevant statutes to the extent necessary to enforce this prohibition.

                That is the significant passage. Because of the rest of the wording, it will void the inevitable TX-OSHA mandate based on Biden's instructions to the federal OSHA regulators. So, in Texas, you can't be fired for refusing to be unvaccinated as a willful violation of an OSHA regulation. BUT, and this is the big BUT you keep ignoring, you can still be fired for GASP! no reason at all.

                If a Texas employer wants to fire you because you are unvaccinated, they can. Without incurring a fine. As long as they don't try to use your refusal as the excuse to avoid the unemployment claim and your rights under the ADA.

                Why is that difficult to understand? Do I have to fire an unvaccinated employee for no other reason to prove it to you?

                1. Actually going back through the thread, I realize that you are just wanting to have a semantics battle over the law. I was inadvertently trying to drag you into what I thought was a more interesting discussion - fighting fascism with fascism.

                  I will agree that I should have been more careful with my original wording. Texas employers CAN fire unvaccinated employees even for the sole reason of being unvaccinated, but the employer will be fined since they were requiring (compelling) their employees to get vaccinated. Sure you can side step the law, but that does not make it non-existent or non-fascist. Technically you CAN murder someone or not pay your taxes, but if you are found guilty, you will face consequences.

                  If Abbott's EO had stopped at directing TX-OHSA to not work with Fed OSHA on the mandate, I would have been very happy with that. I do have a massive problem with punishing businesses for requiring vaccines though. This is coming from someone who owns multiple businesses and has no intention of requiring the vaccine.

  24. Lynsi Snyder is the sole owner of In-N-Out. She is a billionaire. $40,000 is pocket change. I suspect she recognized that the Newsom recall was a lost-cause. Too bad she was right.

  25. "There are Bible verses on its packaging, something that has felt like a conservative dog whistle to many LGBTQ people,"

    Well, so what? Funny how the only ones to hear 'conservative dog whistles' are the fascists.

    1. I'm wondering which Bible verses. If it's something like John 3:16 or the usual evangelical catalogue, that's a not-at-all subtle proclamation that you're keen on Jesus, but it's hardly a dog-whistle of anything.

      1. Don't expect nuance from the left. To them, the only Bible verse is "and God said that fags shall be burnt upon a tire fire".

    2. But totes OK with Hopi or Cherokee verses, right, token progressive?

      1. They're the kind of people who buy a Buddha for a garden ornament and have a 99 Names of Allah hanging on the den wall, but a bible verse on a disposable cup is hate.

        1. Well in their defense, Islam is totes gay-positive and tolerant.

          1. They also always seem to ignore the fact that Buddhist scriptures have more prohibitions against homosexual sexual activity than Christianity does.

  26. Republican and Democratic administrations taking a hard line on China. . .

    Umm...when?

    1. It was a misquote. It was supposed to read "getting a hard on for China."

  27. Rep Massie asks Garland who the guy yelling to storm and enter the Capitol on jan 5 and jan 6 was and why he wasn't arrested. Asks if he is an fbi or government agent. Garland says he can't discuss the matter.

    https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/10/22/watch-massie-shows-fascinating-video-while-grilling-garland-on-feds-involved-in-jan-6-riot-n460993

    1. Good thing he didn’t make the Supreme Court.

    2. Ever since Jan 6, I've strongly suspected that rogue deep state FBI agents accounted for many/most of the front line protesters who first gained access to the Capitol, and who urged and assisted others to follow, which is why the FBI and DOJ (and Pelosi & Schumer) have refused to discuss any details of the Jan 6 event, and why they have (since Jan 6) deceitfully blamed and impeached Trump.

      Pelosi also falsely claimed Brian Skolnik was killed by protesters (he died of a stroke) and put his dead body in the rotunda (a month after his death) to further improve Democrat's poll ratings.

      1. The Whitmer thing had the fbi informant actually create and invite people to meetings in order to get them on conspiracy.

        1. More and more I believe that the West will need Nuremberg-style trials to deal with all this once it is all over.

      2. "rogue deep state FBI agents"

        Man, I have the evidence to support everything you believe and I will send it to you for the low price of $19.99 plus S&H.

        1. Shitlord prefers the taste of brown boots over licking black ones.

        2. Act Blue has an expense account for interns?

          1. Somebody has to buy his vegan ramen.

      3. Pretty much everything you said, except the "rogue agents" part. This was coordinated at very high levels.

  28. Alec Baldwin has not shot and killed more people than 99.99% of us gun owners:

    https://twitter.com/KurtSchlichter/status/1451530569368489994
    The fifth rule of gun safety is keep guns away from Alec Baldwin

  29. "The U.S. House of Representatives holds former White House advisor Steve Bannon in contempt . . . "

    How sad.
    I am sure his personal and professional life will suffer the same shame and degradation as Eric Holder.

    1. Or Eric Baldwin.

      1. Al Franken?

    2. Well Eric Holder did have the courage to sit before Congress and answer questions. He also turned over 7500 document to the Congress. So it will be a while before Steve Bannon has cooperated as much as Eric Holder did.

        1. I can't believe he thinks the guy who committed perjury is a portrait in courage.

      1. He was also a member of the executive, not a private citizen.

      2. "Well Eric Holder did have the courage to sit before Congress and answer questions...."

        Stupid sumbitch can't spell "lie".

      3. You again confuse answering questions and answering questions honestly. Holder was proven to have lied on Operation Fast and Furious, just for starters. It's almost as if you have some sort of mental block, in addition to not being very bright.

      4. ^ imagine being this blinkered

      5. You should shhot rorself in the head, or a "self Baldwin"

  30. https://twitter.com/Ginger_Zee/status/1450427875237171204

    Likely unpopular opinion regarding the supply chain discussion … What can shoppers do? Reduce consumption. Our obsession with multiple gifts (especially for kids) is beyond what’s necessary. So many opportunities here to have bigger discussions. Support local, shop small & less.

    1. https://twitter.com/Doc_0/status/1451177448373170179

      Told you this was coming. You're about to see a massive regime/media campaign against "Christmas greed," "excessive gift-giving," and "materialism." Militant atheist reporters will write long op-eds explaining the True Meaning of Christmas can be found in empty store shelves.

      The clearly coordinated media campaign to run cover for Biden by telling the peasants to eat cake is a sight to behold.

      Also watch for a Regime Media offensive against Thanksgiving. You didn't really need all that food you're having trouble buying. You shouldn't have a big dinner in a pandemic anyway. The Fat Acceptance Movement will bite its lip as we're told food was too abundant before Biden.

      1. Yeah, it's kinda funny how fast they went from "socialist central planning will give us all a better life" to "nobody needs a better life".

        1. Let alone 27 kinds of deodorant.

          1. Or electricity.

        2. It was funny the first few times. Now it's just obnoxious.

    2. i.e., "it is happening, but it's a good thing"

    3. Likely unpopular opinion regarding the supply chain discussion … What can shoppers do? Reduce consumption. Our obsession with multiple gifts (especially for kids) is beyond what’s necessary. So many opportunities here to have bigger discussions. Support local, shop small & less.

      Exactly, comrade. Who needs to choose how much they give to their loved ones at the holiday season, let the state hector you into consuming only what you are told to consume.

      And trust me, tovarisch, it will always be less than you need.

  31. https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1451329940301963267

    The NIH announced a bombshell: despite what Dr. Fauci said under oath, US taxpayers paid for gain-of-function research in Wuhan.

    I hope that outlets will correct the record from when they assured us this wasn’t happening.

    If they’ve forgotten, I’ve got screenshots

    1. Fauci should be in prison.

      1. He should be socially distancing from the rest of us, behind bars.

        1. Under water.

        2. It would be poetic justice if they waterboarded him with a mask instead of a towel.

    2. Is it too soon for moderation4ever to be telling everyone that 'at least Fauci appeared before Congress and answered questions?" Or is the fact that Fauci lied too clear?

  32. "Media Try To Cancel In-N-Out Burger"

    Correction: "SF Chronicle Tries To Cancel In-N-Out Burger"

    One left wing newspaper is NOT the same as the entire woke left wing media, which have tried to cancel Donald Trump and his supporters since 2015, which cancelled the spot on NY Post articles exposing Hunter Biden's laptop (and the Big Guy's corruption), and which has tried to cancel all discussion about Ashli Babbitt's murder on Jan 6.

    1. BTW Reason is one of the many left wing media outlets that tried to cancel Donald Trump and his supporters, failed to write anything about Hunter Biden's laptop or about the Big Guy's corruption that it exposed, and failed to mention Ashli Babbitt's murder.

      1. Lord of losers says they have an agenda.

        1. Obviously Reason promotes a Libertarian agenda. You guys are so dumb. There's no fixing you. Terrible character and zero brain

          1. This is like atheists telling the religious what religious people believe.

            Good work sullum.

            1. They're even worse than ignorant, they often misattribute completely wrong concepts.

      2. You're delusional. That's your problem.

        1. Delusional about what?

          When losers cannot win a debate, they always make personal attacks against the debate's winner.

        2. You’re a dishonest sociopath who was caught lying. That’s your problem.

    1. He's lucky he's a big (D), because the CNN would be calling him a school shooter or serial killer right now.

  33. https://answerstoall.com/technology/what-is-clenched-fist-syndrome/

    What is clenched fist syndrome?
    Abstract. The clenched fist syndrome is an entity in which the patient keeps one or both hands tightly clenched. It is seen in all groups; hand dominance or compensation is not a factor. It usually follows a minor inciting incident and is associated with swelling, pain, and paradoxical stiffness.

    Why do Alzheimer patients clench their hands?
    Dementia makes it very difficult to process stimuli and new information, causing many people with Alzheimer’s disease to become anxious. This anxiety often manifests itself in the form of restlessness, pacing, hand-wringing, and rocking.

      1. That guy is really messed up.
        Imagine the outrage if this was Trump.

        1. The technical director for CNN already said that they lied for 5 years about Trump, including making up symptoms

      2. He is obviously sick and unfit to be in office. It has been obvious since last summer. It is stunning how the media is and the public are able to ignore it.

  34. "Heck, Vice President Kamala Harris patronized the restaurant on a trip back to California to oppose the recall that In-N-Out supported."

    She couldn't quit them.

    Seriously, good on them for refusing to be vaccine cops over their customers.

    Two things:
    1. The Bible verses aren't on their burger wrappers, they are on the bottom of their paper cups. What I have always thought is odd about that is the Bible says not to hide your faith under a bushel, but they put the Bible verses on the bottom of the cups, where they can only be seen if the cup is empty and you turn it upside down -- like they are ashamed of the verses and are hiding them under a bushel.
    2. Their burgers _are_ really good, but their fries are not.

    1. Nobody believes your bullshit of agreeing with in n out after a year of you crying and trying to force everyone to get the vaccine.

    2. Seriously:
      You.
      Are.
      Full.
      Of.
      Shit.

    3. Sounds like you are a better Christian then them.

      1. I’m a terrible Christian. I’m an atheist, and one of the factors leading to my being an atheist is knowing what the Bible actually says.

        1. Lol. Anyone who doesn't think like Mike is wrong.

          God damn.

        2. A real atheist would never describe himself/herself as a terrible Christian (or a terrible Muslim, Jew, Hindu or Mormon).

        3. one of the factors leading to my being an atheist is knowing what the Bible actually says

          White Mike can read Hebrew and Greek? Damn, I have been underestimating him.

          1. Her. She’s a squawking bird named Dee.

      2. And I’m an In-N-Out fan. Except their French fries.

    4. The fries used to be good, but they changed the oil.
      They cut their fries from an actual potato right before preparing them. (not dumped from a frozen bag like everywhere else)

      1. Ah, is that what happened? Cutting them fresh is a great idea.

  35. "The Associated Press claims a counter-protester screamed profanities at peaceful demonstrators who were protesting Dave Chappelle's latest comedy special at a Netflix employee walkout. It turns out that the counter-protester did not scream profanities and the peaceful demonstrators weren't entirely peaceful."

    That's why I've been calling the AP "Associated Propaganda" for the past decade, as virtually every AP story trashes free markets and/or the GOP while praising socialists (who deceitfully call themselves progressives) and Democrats.

    1. When the smoke finally clears I hope these folks are treated like Julius Streicher and RT Libre des Mille Collines.

  36. "US: More threats, more desperate refugees as climate warms"
    [...]
    "WASHINGTON (AP) — The Earth’s warming and resulting natural disasters are creating a more dangerous world of desperate leaders and peoples, the Biden administration said Thursday in the federal government’s starkest assessments yet of security and migration challenges facing the United States as the climate worsens...."
    https://apnews.com/article/climate-environment-and-nature-united-states-united-nations-natural-disasters-f9ddc62a461308bd3f1aa370bf3d8141

    Translated:
    "Want more money!!!!!"

    1. That there's always a crisis is the eternal follow up to the observation that Democrats never let a crisis go to waste.

      1. And if you claim two to be inter-related, it's harder to show the inherent bullshit.

      2. Emergency powers beget emergencies.

        1. The circle of life.

      3. And like for all religious zealots, if the deity (god, crisis, alien space ships) did not exist, they would have to invent it.

    2. The migrant crisis at the border is the result of the Central American Free Trade Agreement which displaced hundreds of thousands of small famers in Central America.

    3. They will face a wave of opposition that hopefully will drown out their attempt to flood the public with misinformation.

    4. The Earth’s warming and resulting natural disasters

      Like what? There hasn't been any major temperature shifts or rainfall changes in Central America in the last 100 years.
      Who are they fooling with this kind of rhetoric? Undereducated Tony's can't be that big of a Dem constituency, can they?

      1. Climate change logic:

        1. Hurricanes, flooding, drought and fires will be more common once the Earth has warmed by a few more degrees.

        2. Typical hurricane hits.

        3. See! Global warming is here!

      2. Well, I don’t know any Tony’s, (or at least anyone so bitter, thank god) but I know a few climate Karen’s.

        I think it’s a pretty big part of the dem constituency. A requirement, actually.

    5. If this were true there would be a clear pattern of tropical nations being worse global actors than nations from temperate climates. But the biggest imperial offenders have been almost entirely from the northern territories.

  37. "Digital World Acquisition Corp. shares climbed 95% ahead of the New York opening bell, suggesting another day of big gains. Its shares rose from less than $10 to $45.50 Thursday after it announced a deal to buy a newly formed media company backed by Mr. Trump that plans to launch a Twitter-like platform called Truth Social."

    ---Wall Street Journal

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-social-media-spac-poised-for-second-day-of-huge-gains-11634906876?

    One of the best surgeons in the hospital where I used to work was an obnoxious narcissist, but being supremely confident under extreme pressure was almost certainly part what made him a great surgeon. Other doctors, who couldn't stand to be in same room with him, otherwise, would send their family to him when they needed surgery. He was a great success both because of the way he was and in spite of himself.

    Like most Americans who supported Trump in 2020, I did so in spite of not liking him personally. It was mostly because 1) I liked some of his policies a lot, and 2) because I hate the authoritarian socialism of the progressive alternative. Being a narcissist made Trump willing to go against everybody, like he did when he negotiated a peace deal with the Taliban or refused to invade and occupy Syria. Trump has also suffered for his narcissism. If he'd bowed out graciously, in 2020, his approval ratings would far higher than they are now.

    I suspect Trump's TRUTH Social will suffer from the same problems. The idea of a social network targeting populist America is a great idea. That market is being way underserved. From where I'm standing, the problem appears to be that it's set up as a mouthpiece for Trump himself rather than a real social media platform meant to serve the needs of users. He might have been better off naming it after himself than "TRUTH Social". He'd do better with a legit social media alternative to Facebook and Twitter, but his ego is getting in the way again.

    TRUTH Social is built on Mastodon, which isn't like Facebook. It's like Twitter. Instead of "tweets", the messages people read on TRUTH Social will be called "truths". And like with Twitter, the point isn't interaction between people, so much as it's about celebrities projecting their own message to millions. The Democrats won't be able to take it down as people create their own nodes, but this isn't about individuals coming together to create communities. It's about Trump sending "truths" to his followers. TRUTH Social isn't a business model. I suppose it's a meme stock, for the moment, but, really, it's just the Trump 2024 campaign.

    1. It will have heavy use, but everyone will be using aliases.

    2. Never underestimate the power of brand. I have no idea how well this will work. If, however, people see using it as a way to show their political brand or give the finger to people of other brands, it will make a fortune regardless of how well it works.

      1. I don't think profitability is the intent. I think he's building a way to get around the Democratic party using the coercive threat of antitrust breakups to shut him down on social media--so that he can address the people who support him. Who associates the shit people say to each other on social media with the truth?

        They wouldn't call the tweets on TRUTH Social "truths" if they were primarily concerned with getting people to talk to each other on their social media platform. They're calling them "truths", presumably, because the platform will primarily be about Trump speaking "truths" to his supporters, and they're using Mastodon, so the Democrats can't kick it off the internet like Parler.

    3. This seems "too good to be true" for anyone who is looking for a "gotcha" against Trump, but reports are coming out that TRUTH Social has ties to China. The CEO's office seems to be located in Wuhan, of all possible places:

      https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-truth-social-connected-china-1641496

      "The company, founded in 2019, is incorporated in the Cayman Islands—an offshore tax haven—and has its headquarters in the Chinese city of Wuhan in the country's central Hubei province."

      1. From his post:

        U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filings posted online revealed seemingly indirect connections to potential business</b< in China.

        Walls are closing in Mike.

        1. Also from his news article:

          It remains unclear whether Yunhong will play any part in the day-to-day operations or direction of Truth Social.

          Did you even read this mike??

          1. Probably not. He saw "Wuhan" and figured he could associate it with Covid or something.

      2. ???
        Literally so what? I know that you think you have some sort of "gotcha" but I'm not getting what it is. Do you think people will catch Covid from it or something?

        1. Shrike often regurgitates shit he reads without understanding it, too. It's further evidence to support the hypothesis that while progressive trolls may be intellectually dishonest, that's complicated by their ignorance and inability to understand what they read. The chances that whatever Shrike quotes will contradict the conclusion he draws from it are probably over 85%. And that seems to be pretty typical of progressive trolls. They're only here to disrupt anyway, but they couldn't contribute anything substantial even if they wanted to do so.

          1. I guess I’m “Shrike” in this rant, even though I’m not that clear who Shrike is/was.

            I clearly presented the story as something that might be too good to be true, and not something I’m sure I believe.

            1. Actually, you're "stupid" in this discussion.

            2. No, but you're certainly imbued with Shrike's spirit.

            3. So here’s Mike Liarson admitting it would be good, in her eyes, if Trump was connected to Wuhan.

        2. "...I know that you think you have some sort of “gotcha” but I’m not getting what it is..."

          Seems you're forgetting Nixon and Khrushchev in Paraguay in '56! Do I have to connect the dots for you?!

    4. Really? They are calling their posts "truths"? Another instance of the Right copying the habits of the Left; in this case, redefining the meaning of common words.

      1. Probably calling it that because truth frighten you guys, and makes you mad.

    5. How do they judge if the truth is true before it is fact checked though?

      1. If Trump says it, then you know it's true? That seems to be the implication, which I would find off-putting.

        There is something to the idea that news media has been doing an awful lot of lying about Trump for a very long time.

        It might even be fair to say that when it comes to Trump, the news is a bunch of lying liars who lie about their lying.

        1. I was thinking more like a red check mark or something.

  38. https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1451355540936855561
    Joe Biden on vaccine mandates: "Come on, 'freedom?'"

    1. Mandates are freedom!

      1. Biden may start calling them trandates

        1. Good point. I never noticed how loaded with white patriarchy that term was.

      2. "Letting us take all of your money and spend it for you gives you freedom to not make choices!!!" On Biden's economic agenda

        1. Having to think is oppressive.

      3. So sayeth the ACLU

  39. Just a Coincidence? Richmond Schools Give Teachers Full Week Off During Election
    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/ari-j-kaufman/2021/10/21/a-coincidence-richmond-schools-give-teachers-full-week-off-during-election-n1525844

    It’s appallingly short notice, as many parents noticed; it prioritizes teachers over children, as usual; it acknowledges that teachers are failing to do their jobs and cannot cope with their already shortened schedules

    1. Ballot harvesting takes time!

      1. Harvesting, forging, printing, manufacturing, it all takes time.

    2. Also amazed at the reasoning... covid is hard. Yet they all relied on people working through it for 2 years while they recieved bonuses for staying home and they fucked over parents.

    3. This plus your earlier link:

      Virginia Dems Push To Ditch Witness Requirement For Absentee Ballots As Youngkin Gains Ground

      If you [democrats] don't want everyone to think you are stealing the elections, then stop acting like you are stealing the elections!

    4. As if public schools are for kids and their parents.

    5. Guess they figured they prepare enough ballots so it's all hands on deck.

  40. https://thefederalist.com/2021/10/20/leftist-shadow-governments-control-a-lot-more-than-our-elections/

    In the 2020 election, Facebook zillionaire Mark Zuckerberg used this strategy to deploy nearly half a billion dollars to help Democrat activists infiltrate local government election apparatuses, literally paying for election equipment and the salaries of partisans who counted ballots. This kind of tax-exempt political interference is now standard practice for the world’s far-left ultra-rich, and it’s affecting a whole lot more than elections. It’s constructed essentially a shadow government that pits elected officials against their voters on behalf of moneyed interests.

    ...One of the pioneers of this strategy has been Bill Gates. He used it extensively to control how states and the federal government run public schools, effectively using one man’s trillions to outweigh the votes and voices of millions of American citizens. His crowning achievement was Common Core.

    “For years, Bill Gates focused his education philanthropy on overhauling large schools and opening small ones. His new strategy is more ambitious: overhauling the nation’s education policies,” The New York Times reported in 2011 after the Common Core project was already locked in at the federal level. “…In some cases, Mr. Gates is creating entirely new advocacy groups. The foundation is also paying Harvard-trained data specialists to work inside school districts, not only to crunch numbers but also to change practices. It is bankrolling many of the Washington analysts who interpret education issues for journalists and giving grants to some media organizations.”

    “We’ve learned that school-level investments aren’t enough to drive systemic changes,” Allan C. Golston, the president of the foundation’s United States program, told the Times. “The importance of advocacy has gotten clearer and clearer.”

    Like Zuckerburg with the 2020 elections, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation spent hundreds of millions of dollars to write Common Core, write tests and curriculum matching it, successfully lobby federal and state officials to make it mandatory (including with former Gates Foundation staffers inside the Obama administration, in violation of Obama’s own ethics rules), and create a media and activism “echo chamber” that surrounded the entire process with Astroturfed, paid promoters praising the effort.

    1. "In the 2020 election, Facebook zillionaire Mark Zuckerberg used this strategy to deploy nearly half a billion dollars to help Democrat activists infiltrate local government election apparatuses, literally paying for election equipment and the salaries of partisans who counted ballots."

      As much as I hate government running anything, the US really should look into how Canada runs it's elections. The one area that shouldn't be run by companies and volunteers.
      - There enough voting places to ensure that there are no line-ups longer than five minute.
      - Elections Canada has four years of planning between elections to make sure that they go smoothly. They hire temporary workers to staff the sites who are trained, made to swear an oath and are adequately compensated. No billionaire financial assistance necessary.
      - Every citizen automatically gets mailed a voter card based on their address in their last income tax filing. If you didn't file or your address changed you can request one.
      - Everyone has to show their voter card and proof of ID before they are handed a ballot.
      - The ballots are paper and you mark them with a pen.
      - observers from all parties observe the hand count. There may be as many as a dozen parties and independents running. Nobody has the authority to eject the observers.

    2. Last year, my wife and I received several dozen different mailings from various nonprofits in PA (that neither of us ever heard of) encouraging us to register to vote and to vote by mail (with applications included), with many/most of these mailings containing false and derogatory comments about Trump.

      I've suspected that Mark Zuckerburg funded most/all of those mailings.

      And of course, the PA Department of State and Allegheny County
      (both of which are controlled by partisan Democrats) also sent multiple mailings urging us to vote by mail, and sending us applications with self addressed and stamped return envelopes.

      But the PA Dept of State never informed us where to vote in person (even though most poll locations were changed) and Allegheny County waited until the week before the June primary and the November general election to inform us (on a post card addressed to "resident") where we had to vote in person.

      Nothing like suppressing votes for the GOP, while manufacturing more votes for left wing Democrats.

      1. Perhaps good elections should be like good school exams: relatively frequent and always unannounced.

    3. And kids are so much smarter now.

  41. I think the one thing we can all agree on here is that In-n-Out's food does in fact suck.

    1. I've never had it, so why does it suck?

      1. It doesn't suck. People on the east coast are mad it is more popular than 5 guys. Which isn't that great.

        1. I agree...it does not suck. They ain't quite Five Guys, though.

          1. They aren't quite Five Guys but they are 1/3 the price so MC Escher-like, this puts them ahead of Five Guys.

      2. It's just plain not nearly as tasty as most of the other burger joints. Tried is at least 5 time, traveling the interstates; bland and dry. More than a fair try; gave up.

    2. They are overrated, but their food is good. Except for their French fries. Thing is there are lots of places to get a pretty good hamburger.

    3. I disagree.

      Their fries are fantastic. Their burgers are much better than McDonalds or Burger King.

      I prefer Fatburger, but In--Out is pretty darn good for fast food burgers.

    4. I think In n Out is great, am against vaccine passports but for vaccine mandates for govt , large corporations, and any other businesses employees that want to have them, and public universities and for mask mandates in schools at the present time.

      1. Fuck off and die, asshole Joe.

  42. "The evidence shows that all three COVID-19 vaccines authorized in the United States are safe—as demonstrated by the over 400 million vaccine doses already given,"

    As long as we ignore the 300 million adverse reactions after, it's the safest relatively-ineffective therapeutic ever.

    1. these vaccines are so new that if someone touting their safety doesn't add "so far" then I know they have an agenda.

  43. 'One person was killed and another injured on the set of a movie being directed by Alec Baldwin after the actor accidentally discharged a prop gun' There is no such thing as an 'accidental discharge,' Baldwin, unless the evidence shows otherwise, had the gun in his hand, and pulled the trigger. Negligent discharge, maybe. Involuntary homicide seems likely.

    1. My first thought too, but my film friend suggested it could have been an intentional straight-at-the-camera shot, as it was the cinematography director that was smoked.

  44. Chik-fil-A's sin was making donations to the Boy Scouts and the Salvation Army, two institutions that were uncontroversial and widely admired once upon a time.

    1. That was before LGBT activism became sacred writ, and anything that even mildly disapproved or disagreed with them became heresy that must be expunged from society. See the Dave Chappelle controversy.

    2. I don't know when they were donating, but the Boy Scouts caved to the woke years ago. I myself failed to understand how an organization whose oath included chastity could worry about sexual orientation in the youth. As far as the leaders are concerned, don't ask, don't tell is the only option. You are not doing much to protect the chastity of the youth by promoting that sexual activity between boys is acceptable.

    3. When oh when can we get a Chick-fil-A up here in Northern Michigan? The nearest one is in Grand Rapids.
      We do have Culvers up here and their ruben is pretty darned good.

  45. On Thursday, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) officially endorsed people's ability to get booster shots of the Johnson & Johnson and Moderna vaccine.

    the FDA committee voted 16-2 in a landslide AGAINST approval. This was overruled in a political move. Unreal.

    1. Didn't they specifically note that the J&J vaccine was contraindicated for a second dose? Did I imagine that?

    2. https://www.fda.gov/advisory-committees/advisory-committee-calendar/vaccines-and-related-biological-products-advisory-committee-september-17-2021-meeting-announcement

      You are exposing fake news. This is a link to the hearing you are referring to. The pro Vax researchers state that they have no evidence that the skeptics are wrong and that terrifies them.

  46. Contrary to this story, In-N-Out is not defying the "Bay Area's" rules. It's just Contra Costa County and SF County and their respective, grasping health officials. You're happy to visit a store in, say, Santa Clara County without having to flash your vaccine documentation. In fact, I think I'll drop by tomorrow for my usual amazing Double-Double because I'm sure all the principled people will be avoiding it in terror (medical and political). Or possibly they won't.

  47. Nice site, i like this site tiger388

  48. Defiance of the holy state will not be tolerated! An appearance before the most holy Grand Inquisitor/ local judge and his liberal monks, will settle their hash quick enough!
    Burn them at the stake for their heresy! Otherwise this heresy will spread and soon all will be devoured.
    His most holy See, Gov. Newsom will stamp out all heresies.
    Except for the right of trannies to occupy women's bathrooms and locker rooms.

  49. People in Contra Costa "don't want to eat in an environment where they don't feel safe"?

    If only there were somewhere other than In-N-Out to eat in that entire county. Or if only the place had a drive-thru where they could get food without having to brave the perils of an indoor space where they could encounter a micro-organism of some sort. Going somewhere else spares them the indignity of eating food from packaging which has printed references to a scripture they might not believe in anyway (printed in places so unobtrusive, I'd been going there for 10 years before learning it existed).

    If only they had the ability to prepare and eat meals inside their own homes (or maybe they feel unsafe there because of the presence of their kids who are too young to be given a vaccine with an unproven safety record to protect from a virus that's demonstrably not likely to be a threat anyway.

  50. “Amazing write-up!”

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