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Parents, Politicians, and School Administrators Battle Over Masks for Kids

Plus: Illinois schools prohibit hairstyle discrimination, Ann Arbor bans fur sales, and more....

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Fights over masks in schools are heating up. Schools have become the locus of public health battles and political drama surrounding masks, with students caught as pawns in this pathetic battle. In an ideal world, both private and public schools could set their own local rules, based on the specific circumstances (coronavirus case levels, physical facility considerations, community wishes, student ages, etc.) with which they're grappling, and school choice programs would let disapproving parents easily send their kids elsewhere.

But we live in a world where many families are locked into one schooling option, and both local administrators and state authorities want dominion over kids' faces within that school. Hence, an increasing array of court battles concerning who gets to decide whether schools require masks.

In Texas—where Republican Gov. Greg Abbott declared it off-limits for school districts to independently make decisions about mask requirements and several districts declared an intent to defy him—the matter has spurred several legal battles. "A patchwork of lawsuits, temporary restraining orders and court hearings is sparking confusion over mask mandates as families prepare to send their children back to school," The Dallas Morning News reported yesterday. On Sunday, the Texas Supreme Court issued a temporary blow to Dallas and Bexar counties, which had announced plans to order school mask mandates in spite of Abbott's order.

On Tuesday, Disability Rights Texas filed the latest challenge against Abbott's mask mandate ban. "In spite of national and local guidance urging precaution, Governor Abbott's Executive Order prohibits local school districts from even considering whether to implement the most basic and effective COVID-19 prevention strategy in school settings," the suit complains, alleging that this prevents students with certain disabilities from safe schooling options.

Texas is one of nine states where school mask mandates have been banned, according to a USA Today analysis. Conversely, 12 states, D.C., and Puerto Rico say all schools must require masks, and New Mexico says masks are required for students who are unvaccinated.

Most states still allow flexibility; some 28 are leaving it up to local school districts.

But in states where mask mandates are mandatory or disallowed, many people have become quite acrimonious.

In Florida, a group of parents is challenging an executive order from Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis forbidding schools from requiring masks. On Monday, the state filed a motion to dismiss the lawsuit. "The Governor and Surgeon General carefully balanced the legitimate state interests of school safety, educational well-being, and parental rights," the motion says.

"It is in the best interests of the State to empower Florida parents with the right to manage the healthcare of their children," the state argues. "This includes the freedom to choose whether they must be masked in public schools."

However, several large Florida school districts have announced plans to defy DeSantis' ban. Superintendents from Alachua and Broward County schools said this week "that their districts were complying with state law and attempting to provide safe learning environments for students. In both districts, students can be exempted from wearing a mask with a doctor's written recommendation," notes CBS News. In addition:

Florida's largest school district will likely require students to wear face masks when classrooms open next week, following the recommendation of a task force of medical experts. The Miami-Dade County School Board is expected to approve the measure Wednesday.

Superintendent Alberto Carvalho said his "mind is pretty made up on the way to move forward." …

Miami-Dade has the nation's fourth-largest school district with 334,000 students, while Broward is the sixth-largest district with 261,000 students.

Meanwhile, the state's Board of Education announced yesterday that these schools could be punished. "The board's penalties for school officials in those counties could range from withholding funding to removing school officials," The Washington Post reports.

In Arizona, the state legislature passed a law in June banning school mask mandates and Republican Gov. Doug Ducey is using financial incentives to get school districts to comply. He told them on Tuesday that they're only eligible for federal COVID-19 relief grant funding if they open for in-person learning by August 27 and don't make students wear masks.

"Safety recommendations are welcomed and encouraged—mandates that place more stress on students and families aren't," Ducey said in a statement. "These grants acknowledge efforts by schools and educators that are following state laws and keeping their classroom doors open for Arizona's students."

Here's Arizona's state superintendent of public instruction's response:

Battles are also playing out between state authorities, local school authorities, and parents in Iowa, Tennessee, and South Carolina.


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Illinois schools prohibit hairstyle discrimination:


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Ann Arbor, Michigan, bans fur sales:

The city council unanimously voted Monday evening to become what the Humane Society said is the first city in the Midwest to prohibit the sale of new fur products. The rule allows retailers a year to phase out sales and offers some exemptions.

Used fur sales are OK. And the ban doesn't apply to tribal communities or cow, sheep and deer pelts.


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• The American Civil Liberties Union and others are challenging Arizona abortion restrictions. "A coalition of doctors, medical groups and civil rights organizations have filed a lawsuit seeking to block new restrictions on abortion in Arizona before they take effect Sept. 29," AZ Central reports. "Originally signed into law by Gov. Doug Ducey in April, the changes make it a crime to perform abortions based solely on genetic conditions like Down syndrome or cystic fibrosis."

• Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has COVID-19.

• In Florida's Hillsborough County, where students went back to school at the start of this month, "5,599 students and 316 employees in Hillsborough County Public Schools are in isolation or quarantine," the county announced Monday. "Isolation refers to individuals who have tested positive for COVID-19 while quarantine refers to those who have had close contact with a positive case."

• In Los Angeles County, "eight in 1,000 Los Angeles Unified students tested positive for the coronavirus in the two weeks leading up to the Monday start of the academic year," the Los Angeles Times reports. This amounts to an infection rate of 0.8 percent.

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  1. Fights over masks in schools are heating up.

    As are those kids’ respiratory systems!

    1. Wear an N95 mask if you want to be safe from Covid. You can buy them now and they work great.

      There’s zero need for anyone else to wear a mask when anyone who wants to be safe can get an N95 mask and assure their safety.

      1. Agreed, not to mention they can get the jab.

        It’s on them, him, her, xir etc….

        1. Well, actually, the government is not allowing most kids to get the jab.

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      2. Those aren’t stopping shit except in tightly controlled environments.

        1. You don’t have to wear one then. Either way, don’t try to police the rest of us.

          1. Same goes for you, especially for those of us who actually got the shot. Now fuck off.

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    2. No they are not. Rate of death from disease for under 18 since Jan 2020 remains .0007 percent (with vast majority having other issues) and the rate of deaths from COVID remains at 80% are over the age of 65 (again with immunity issues). The 80% remains when all were unvaxed or some were vaxed and some not etc. They cannot win a debate based on facts, science, common sense so now they are getting people like you to believe the totally nonsensical and farcical argument of vaxxed vs. unvaxxed.

  2. In an ideal world, both private and public schools could set their own local rules…

    In an idealer world, individuals could make their own decisions on this kind of thing.

    1. In the most idealist world, everyone would be responsible for the word usements they choose.

      1. Normararily it is bad form to make up words.

      2. and paying for and selecting their kids’ schools.

    2. And it should be stressed that the groups defying DeSantis and Abbot are not arguing to render this decision down to “both private and public schools”. They are arguing to do it at the district level. And these are districts with hundreds of schools. If it is inappropriate to make these decisions at the state level, it is also inappropriate to make these decisions at the district level.

      My preference is to support the rules that increase parental choice, so in this case the school districts lose, petty tyrants that they are.

      1. The state isn’t making the decision. They are saying the parents get to decide. This the correct option.

    3. And in an idealest world, Gummint Skoolz would not exist, M’Lady. *Tips fedora.*

    4. If it’s true that COVID-19 spreads more readily in cold weather, maybe they could crank up the heat in all the classrooms to about 90 degrees.

      1. No it doesn’t. You could be the most science ignorant person in history. It spreads seasonally. Texas and Florida spikes aren’t cold weather.

      2. So …. you want to mask kids, and then force them to sit around all day in 90 degree classrooms.

        Pray you die a natural death before things escalate, you fucking sadist cunt.

        1. Mike has bragged about the skin color of his kids, so maybe he thinks their elevated melanin count will mitigate the breathing restrictions.

      3. the evidence mostly points to it circulating via air conditioning or heating systems, indoors.

  3. Testing positive for Covid is not a cancer diagnosis. I still am amazed by the hype of catching a spicy cold.

    1. Characterizing COVID as being like cancer or being merely like a cold would both be inaccurate. A dispassionate characterization would be that it is somewhere between those two extremes.

      1. COVID is “somewhere between” cancer and a cold the same way that second hand smoke is somewhere between between being trapped in a house fire and a fart on a crowded elevator.

        1. This post should be classified as medical misinformation. Farts can spread COVID.

          1. A dick in the ass should fix that, which explains why the government’s response has been to fuck everyone left and right.

      2. “…A dispassionate characterization would be that it is somewhere between those two extremes…”

        Yes, pants shitters prefer vague, scary uncertainty

      3. Characterizing COVID as being like cancer or being merely like a cold

        But for the vast majority of people that’s exactly what it is.

        It spreads like a cold–like wild fire and often past preventatives. It’s got a bucket of symptoms like a cold. And You can get it and not even know, just like a cold.

        Because that’s what is IS. Part of the group of viruses, SEVERAL coronaviruses among them, that make up what we call ‘the common cold’.

        And just like the common cold, if you are suffering from other ailments, it can push you over the edge.

        And it tore through the population because we had zero handle on it. As many new cold strains have done.

        The sad thing is that, because the wrong people supported ameliorants, that avenue has been largely ignored or demonized in favor of vaccines that are proving to be just another type of ameliorant.

        And so thousands have needlessly died because so many thought Trump failing was more important than saving lives.

    2. I tested positive on 8/2 after having a very slight cough for 2 days which graduated to a deep cough for 2 days. About day 6 the fever started, slight at first, but around day 9 it peaked at 103. There were at least 4 days where just coming downstairs was exhausting. I still have the cough, but I am getting a test in a few hours to see if I am still shedding virus.

      I am 51, not in shape, but no co-morbidities and unvaccinated. I came down with a viral pneumonia when I was teenager that lasted longer and wreaked a lot more havoc on my body, but in the last 34 years, I have never missed even a full week of work due to illness.

      My wife works in a retirement home and received the Moderna vaccine in March/April. She tested negative the day I tested positive, and then positive 5 days later. Her symptoms were all in her sinuses and lasted 4-5 days and she only had 2 days with any excess sleep.

      COVID is not cancer. Anecdotally, I would place it on the scale above the flu, but below mononucleosis, which both my kids had in their teens. They don’t shut down schools, require masks, or even make a vaccine for mono, why for COVID?

      1. I am glad you are on the mend, and hope you feel better.

        “My wife works in a retirement home and received the Moderna vaccine in March/April. She tested negative the day I tested positive, and then positive 5 days later.”

        One of the worst things about this conversation being had at the national level is that the people having the conversation don’t understand viruses or any of this stuff. It was just this implied assumption that if you got the vaccine, you were suddenly shielded from the virus. And so people were entirely unprepared for the news that a person with the vaccine could actually be infected. Thus all the nervous nancies lost their shit when hearing about “breakthrough cases”.

        So I will say it again: A vaccine is not a hermetic seal against the virus. If the virus goes into your body, it can still infect cells, replicate and move through your body. “Immunity” means that your body can produce the antibodies necessary to fight off the virus. But in each individual person, under each individual situation, the shape of that battle well play out differently.

        Vaccines are miraculous tools that equip our body to fight off the virus. But that might mean the virus is merely defeated in days instead of weeks. Or it might mean that the virus is unable to spread past the sinuses. It does not necessarily mean that the virus can get no foothold, or that it cannot develop in numbers where you are shedding levels of that virus high enough to infect others.

        1. One of the worst things about this conversation being had at the national level is that the people having the conversation don’t understand viruses or any of this stuff. It was just this implied assumption that if you got the vaccine, you were suddenly shielded from the virus. And so people were entirely unprepared for the news that a person with the vaccine could actually be infected. Thus all the nervous nancies lost their shit when hearing about “breakthrough cases”.

          Yes. Especially with a virus that’s virtually guaranteed to have an increasing risk of reinfection over time, as the other human coronaviruses do. The ideal outcome is the one we have with these other ones: equilibrium due to regular exposure following acclimation, however acquired. A perpetual state of panic, especially by places where there is a high rate of prior infection and/or high vaccination rates, is counterproductive.

          Agoraphobia and germophobia are unhealthy. It’s amazing that they’ve been so quickly adopted as cultural norms.

        2. Honestly, a vaccine that doesn’t provide sterilizing immunity is effectively useless. I can walk into a room full of people with chicken pox, measles, or small pox, and be quite confident I’m not going to get sick with what they have.

          There’s this conspiracy theory I read online that talked about how Fauci, in 2018 or 2019, was bitching at a medical conference that he couldn’t convince every single American to get the annual flu shot, a vaccine that also doesn’t provide sterilizing immunity and is largely a guess as to what strains are going to be dominant that year. The implication is that he worked through the NIH with their contacts at the Wuhan lab to leak the virus, so that he could scare Americans enough to get an annual COVID shot even after it degraded to endemic levels like the Spanish flu eventually did. Now, I think most of that other than Fauci bitching about us stupid Americans not all getting the flu shot every year is bullshit, but the fact of that matter is that the people who think we’re ever going to get to a zero-COVID world like Fauci wanted in spring 2020 are delusional, and it’s going to be a ton of fun especially when Australia and New Zealand open up their borders again.

          1. Chicken pox vaccine is not sterilizing. Nor is smallpox.

            Since smallpox has been eradicated we don’t give the vaccine anymore. It is thought to last for 5-10 years. It is the only disease to have been eradicated by vaccination.

            Chicken pox vaccine is around 90% effective so in an outbreak cases can occur but tend to be mild. Most adults have had chicken pox so have acquired immunity. It can recur as shingles because it sticks around in you if you have had it. I am planning to get that.

            Polio is only 90% effective after two doses but near 100% after three.

            Covid vaccine is very effective but we are finding that a booster dose will be needed around 8 months. How long that lasts is not known.

            Other vaccines such as bacterial vaccine for Tetanus only last 5-10 years.

            1. Chicken pox vaccine is not sterilizing. Nor is smallpox.

              Yeah, they are. Just because a vaccine is not 100% effective doesn’t mean it’s not sterilizing. You undermined your own fucking argument by posting those stats.

              If those and the polio vaccines aren’t sterilizing, then no vaccine is sterilizing.

              1. IPV is not sterilizing. It prevents systemic infection but does not prevent viral gut replication. The concept of a sterilizing vaccine is that it prevents viral replication.

                The varicella vaccine is not sterilizing.

                “The pathogenesis and immune responses to varicella zoster virus (VZV) as well as the safety and effectiveness of VZV vaccines are reviewed. The lack of sterilizing immunity
                provided by VZV vaccines has not prevented them from being safe and effective. “

                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3595154/#!po=17.1875

                Smallpox and probably measles vaccines may be called sterilizing. I give you that.

                The difference is academic in any case.

                The efficacy, duration of protection, and safety of the vaccine are what matters clinically.

      2. Good point about Mono. My son had it in HS and it wrecked a summer. Everybody I know (20-ish) that has had covid recovered within a couple weeks, including an 84 YO aunt with health issues. Symptoms were somewhere between mild to bad colds. No “long” covid either.

        1. As I mentioned, I had viral pneumonia when I was 17. I was sick for 3-4 weeks and lost 20 pounds. I went from running 10-15 miles per week to not being able to run 2 blocks without stopping to puke. It took probably 18 months to fully recover.

          COVID is a viral pneumonia. As far as I am concerned ‘long COVID’ is a bunch of people bitching because it takes a long time to recover from lung diseases. Chronic illness is profitable for doctors and researchers alike. The conflict of interest in promoting it is obvious.

          1. The current theory is that the long symptoms are also caused by the systemic vascular inflammation that goes with it.

            1. long symptoms are also caused by the systemic vascular inflammation that goes with it

              Yes, that’s what I said.

              a bunch of people bitching because it takes a long time to recover from lung diseases

              1. I clearly see the reference to vasculitis there. In any case not disagreeing with you just adding to the discussion.

    3. Is Arsenic considered a spice?

      1. My HS chemistry teacher used to joke that it tastes like almonds. She was nutty enough that she may know from experience.

        1. It’s cyanide that tastes like almonds.

  4. In Texas—where Republican Gov. Greg Abbott declared it off-limits for school districts to independently make decisions about mask requirements and several districts declared an intent to defy him…

    And those individual families that choose to defy the school districts? How far down the chain do school administrators feel defiance is permissible?

    1. “How far down the chain do school administrators feel defiance is permissible?”

      Zero. The rules apply to everyone BUT school admin. In nearly all circumstances.

      1. It’s hilariously ironic that when the school officials defy the governor and he threatens to remove them from their role if they don’t follow the rules, let’s call it expelling them or suspending them, he’s as bad as Hitler.

        But when school officials tell parent’s their children won’t be allowed to attend school when they don’t follow the rules, maybe we could call that expulsion or suspension, the officials know best and should be viewed as heroes.

        1. Those in power consider everyone opposed to their rule to be rebels. Those without power consider everyone ruling over them to be tyrants. It all depends where in the hierarchy of power one finds themselves at any given moment.

      2. The rules apply to the little people. Not the people in, say, Martha’s Vineyard.

    2. It’s cute that you’ve used that outdated word “individual” twice today.

      Silly, silly Fist. Haha.

    3. That would be my question, what are they going to do if you send your kid to school without a mask and they refuse to put one on? If they expel them would you not have a legal course of action as they are in defiance of the Governors order? Maybe they would be forced to fund the private school for the kid like the schools that would not provide an adequate environment for the disabled? That could be the way to get funding for school choice going.

  5. “Originally signed into law by Gov. Doug Ducey in April, the changes make it a crime to perform abortions based solely on genetic conditions like Down syndrome or cystic fibrosis.”

    Absolutely outrageous. As a compassionate left-libertarian, I fully endorse exterminating the genetically defective in utero. Only a Nazi would oppose this practice.

    #StandWithPP

    1. This one is pretty good. You’re getting your mojo back.

      1. It just makes me so furious when I see genetic defectives in my daily life, you know? It’s like “Why does that barely human thing get to breathe the same air as genetically pure individuals like myself?”

        #LibertariansForEradicatingTheUnfit

        1. I hate your shtick … but this one was good

  6. It is in the best interests of the State to empower Florida parents with the right to manage the healthcare of their children…

    Any other personal choices the state would like to cede back to the individuals?

    1. YES! The choice to force those OTHERS to dance to my tune!
      – Karen

    2. Thrice?

      Re-education camp for you.

  7. I wonder what race relations in this country–already in a worsening state–are going to be like in the near future, with a generation of children who grew up either not seeing and interacting with kids of other races/religions at all (due to schools staying closed to placate teachers’ unions) or seeing them but never seeing their faces.

    I grew up with Black, Hispanic and Asian kids. We hung out together, visited each other’s homes, met each others parents, went on dates, etc. We were real people to each other. I wonder how a White kid will see Blacks when to him they are nothing more than images on computer screens.

    1. “I wonder how a White kid will see Blacks when to him they are nothing more than images on computer screens.”

      If public schools have any say, a white kid will view a black kid as an oppressed person, worthy of only pity.

    2. I wonder when white farmers start turning up dead.

    3. Ain’t gonna get any better if you keep writing White and Black.

      1. ^^^^^^^^
        This

        I grew up with kids. We were all just kids.

        The only time anybody’s ethnicity or race was important was when we got something from it. Like the chinese kids mom makng some food.

        What WAS important was were you a snitch? did you play fair? did you have cool stuff? did you do cool stuff? are you a crybaby?

        Stuff you DID, not what you were.

        Unless you were ugly, or the wrong kinda fat, or smelly or something like that. But you could get around all of that by being cool or fun or the right kinda weird (not like that kid who put cats in bags)

  8. When we’re cornrows banned in Chi? When I was in school there tons of kids had cornrows.

    1. Was this after gorilla glue girl went viral?

    2. From the article, it looks like it was a private school that had a dress code that banned cornrows on boys. Most of the students at the school are black.

      Of course, as always, there’s more to the story. The parent braided the kid’s hair and sent him to school to let him get on trouble for it, and then sued the school.

      The dress code may be stupid, but it’s the rules at a private school. Mom should have known better. She probably did. My kids go to private school and I have to sign a document every year acknowledging the dress code and pledging to abode by it.

  9. The mask issue is not about safety, it is about compliance. It is the perfect opportunity to identify potential resistors and their parents.

    Hail, Hydra.

  10. Illinois schools can no longer ban cornrows, locs and braids, thanks to a West Side mom who fought hair discrimination.

    Just wait until some study shows certain hairstyles trap and spread the virus.

  11. Used fur sales are OK.

    *** meekly raises hand ***

    But isn’t *all* fur, um, pre-owned?

    1. +++

      Next on the list to be banned: new leather goods. I mean, who actually “needs” leather, right? Damn, I keep vegan, and don’t own any furs and never have — though I do own pair of fancy cowboy boots which I have had for about twenty years. Unlike “do-gooding” governments, however, I don’t have the desire to force my personal choices on other people.

      1. I am very surprised it took this long for you to let us know you were vegan. I’d thought it was like Cross-Fitting, or that you were a pilot, or studied at Harvard…

        1. LOL. I did work with cross fittings when installed my irrigation system. As far as “Cross-Fitting,” well, I had to look that up. Nope. The only thing I “piloted” were radio-control model airplanes, and you couldn’t pay me enough to go to Harvard.

          1. Keep on rockin’ on, then.

            I’m not a vegan or vegetarian, but I do make a fantastic vegan chili with TVP. No beans, even. Amazing how processed to hell and back the foods in the ‘vegan’ section of the grocery store are.

            1. ” Amazing how processed to hell and back the foods in the ‘vegan’ section of the grocery store are.”

              For-sure on that, at least most of them. I don’t care for most them taste-wise, either. Lucky for me, my wife is an artist in the kitchen, and loves a good cooking challenge.

            2. Real chili never had beans anyway.

              1. It always had beans.

                Chili with meat is ‘chili con carne’, which means chili with meat.

                Chili doesn’t have meat unless it says so.

                1. Unless it is Cincinnati skyline. Adding beans to that is an abomination.

                  Then again you can argue about if it is technically chili at all.

                  If you get it on a hot dog with cheese, diced onions, and optional hot sauce it is called a coney. Is it a hot dog?

                  Well they don’t serve a hot dog that way in Chicago (all beef steamed, mustard, relish, poppy seed bun, sliced or chopped tomato, sport peppers, kosher style pickle on top) which is different than New York (with sour kraut, brown mustard) New Mexican Sonara, (minced onion, green chile sauce, diced tomato, pinto beans, mustard, and mayonnaise) or Cleveland (grilled kielbasa, fries, BBQ sauce, Cole Slaw). Or LA danger dog (bacon wrapped and grilled, caramelized grilled onions and peppers, optional chili sauce, mustard, Mayo or ketchup.)

    2. Does Ann Arbor even have many fur stores? In my 50+ years I cannot recall even seeing a fur store in Houston. Like the part about tribal communities. If this crap keeps up it will be great for them, all the pork, cigarettes and fur will be sold on the res.

  12. …the state’s Board of Education announced yesterday that these schools could be punished.

    Detention slips.

  13. Illinois schools can no longer ban cornrows, locs and braids…

    Shave their heads. Make them all look identical. That way students will understand their fungibility in the system.

    1. Plus the elastic straps on the “cloth face coverings” won’t get caught in the hair.

    2. If cornrows aren’t washed, don’t they have a lot of fungi-bility? *Popeye laugh!*

      1. Must you have inflicted that pun upon us?

  14. And the ban doesn’t apply to tribal communities or cow, sheep and deer pelts.

    Well, at least there will remain some red paint targets.

    1. So, “All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others” amirite? And fur is cruel unless you have tribal affiliation, amirite?

      Leave it to a Progressive enclave like Ann Arbor, Michigan to come up with something like that.

      1. It may have to be worded like that to comply with treaties.

    2. Tribal communities. Aren’t we all parts of tribal communities. And all of our ancestors wore animal skins what makes certain tribes better than other tribes

  15. I wonder why anyone needs masks.

    Those among us who judge the risk of COVID-19 swine flu measles mumps polio whatever to be too great can stay home until vaccinated.

    Why worry about the spread?

  16. Nothing about the WOATUS in hiding during our international humiliation? too local?

  17. The American Civil Liberties Union and others are challenging Arizona abortion restrictions.

    All that time freed up by no longer defending constitutional rights.

  18. The American Civil Liberties Union and others are challenging Arizona abortion restrictions.

    The new ACLU position on rights apparently looks something like this:
    The right to abortion…..sacrosanct.
    Any of the rights actually in the Constitution or Bill of Rights…..matter of interpretation.

    1. The aclu doesn’t go far enough. Abortions should be mandatory for all socialists and progressives

      1. Retroactively.

    2. Ah, but as per the Ninth Amendment, a right does not have to be enumerated in order to exist, so, whatever one can say against the A.C.L.U.(and there’s a lot,) this isn’t a valid criticism.

      1. Except murdering someone is not a right…

      2. The point being they seem to be less keen on defending the enumerated rights while treating the one pulled out of Blackmun’s fevered imagination as absolute.

  19. *scans roundup*

    Nothing about Biden’s humility?

    1. so last week.

  20. Originally signed into law by Gov. Doug Ducey in April, the changes make it a crime to perform abortions based solely on genetic conditions like Down syndrome or cystic fibrosis.

    ACLU for eugenics-lite? Maybe defending Nazis back in the day wasn’t about speech rights.

    OMG RELAX, I’M JOKING.

  21. Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has COVID-19.

    Must have been meeting with the state’s legislative Dems.

    1. Tested positive for Covid, has no symptoms. If you have been vaccinated and are not sick, avoid getting tested whenever possible. All you do is serve the fascists trying to cling to their new, Covid driven power.

      1. Yeah, as I noted above, vaccination just gives your body more effective tools for fighting off the virus. It doesn’t suddenly wrap your cells in protective coating.

        If we had 24×7 monitoring of everyone in the country, we would still see the virus tooling around- even with 100% vaccination. Because the virus would still infect people briefly, who would give it to their cat, or some sweaty body they were dancing with in Provincetown for some reason. This virus lives in the wild now, and it will continue to infect people. Those who are vaccinated will likely be fine. Those who are not vaccinated are less likely (but still likely) to be fine.

        We need to resist the doom-scrolling where people are focused on “cases” as a metric. It is a meaningless metric in telling us whether or not we are winning.

        1. People need to be educated on what “endemic” really means.

          1. Yeah. A lot of people seem to think that it’s a pandemic as long as anyone is still catching this virus.

  22. So we have a headline that talks about mask mandates and something called hairstyle discrimination.

    The apocalypse is upon us.

  23. In Florida’s Hillsborough County, where students went back to school at the start of this month, “5,599 students and 316 employees in Hillsborough County Public Schools are in isolation or quarantine,” the county announced Monday.

    Fucking outrageous. They’re making them go to school in August???

    1. And they made them go to school until June 10, last year, between hurricane nonsense, professional development days, and covid insanity. You remember, the Phineas and Ferb song: 61 days of summer vacation?

  24. “But in states where mask mandates are mandatory or disallowed, many people have become quite acrimonious.”

    And yet ENB focuses solely on states where mandates are banned.

  25. “The American Civil Liberties Union and others are challenging Arizona abortion restrictions. “A coalition of doctors, medical groups and civil rights organizations have filed a lawsuit seeking to block new restrictions on abortion in Arizona before they take effect Sept. 29,” AZ Central reports.”

    I guess progressive donors don’t fund suits to protect free speech and religious rights like they used to do.

    1. Imposing abortion restrictions on all women In Arizona, even on those who don’t share your religion beliefs, is a religious freedom issue?

  26. “It is in the best interests of the State to empower Florida parents with the right to manage the healthcare of their children,” the state argues.

    Emphasis added. Kind of a moral dilemma for anti-Statists!

    1. I mean saying it is in the states best interests when people can make their own decisions is pretty libertarian.

    2. “The best interests of the State (sic)” should send a chill down the spine of all right-thinking people.

  27. “Isolation refers to individuals who have tested positive for COVID-19 while quarantine refers to those who have had close contact with a positive case.”

    I guess there’s probably a reason we’re not breaking those numbers down in the story.

    1. REGARDLESS, THEY’RE ALL GONNA DIE!. They’re certainly not going to come out of this contributing to herd immunity in any way.

    2. 1 asymptomatic wuflu case, all the rest people that have seen that person in the last year

    3. 400 student positives; doesn’t sound nearly as scary as 5500. But here’s the $64,000 question; how many of those students are actually sick?

      1. I asked the same thing below. Though I imagine the more pertinent question is whether or not they were contagious.

        1. Though I imagine the statement to be made is that they are *potentially* contagious.

          1. Now you’re getting it…

  28. This amounts to an infection rate of 0.8 percent.

    Were any of them sick?

  29. The city council unanimously voted Monday evening to become what the Humane Society said is the first city in the Midwest to prohibit the sale of new fur products.

    To be very clear, that is the HSUS, or the Humane Society of the U.S., a PETA-aligned ‘animal rights’ activist cult lobbying organization.

    Not to be confused with your local Humane Society that operates animal adoption shelters and rescues abused pets.

    1. Thank you for the clarification

    2. Wasn’t there some report that came out saying that PETA and its affiliated groups are responsible for some of the largest euthanization numbers in the country?

      1. Yes they are the Peta animal shelters have a 90% eutinasia rate, and they harass wistleblowers that point this out. Also the Peta president takes Humalog for her diabetes, it’s a animal derived medicine. Peta also funds terrorists, so there’s that too.
        All in all they really are a shitty group of people

  30. In Los Angeles County, “eight in 1,000 Los Angeles Unified students tested positive for the coronavirus in the two weeks leading up to the Monday start of the academic year…”

    They should be denied healthcare if they were not vaxxed and wearing a mask.

  31. Gov. Greg Abbott declared it off-limits for school districts to independently make decisions about mask requirements

    Very telling ENB puts the decision making on the schools instead of parents.

    1. Indeed, like some people put the decision making regarding stopping at intersections on the government instead of drivers. F*cking socialists.

      1. Yeah, there ought to be a law banning those four-way stop sign monstrosities.

      2. Better statist analogy for you to support. Everyone driving under 25 mph no matter road conditions to minimally reduce risk.

      3. Some lefty shits are very good a knee-crawling and boot licking queen asshole.
        How do those boots taste?

      4. “Indeed, like some people put the decision making regarding stopping at intersections on the government instead of drivers. F*cking socialists.”

        Dear readers of the thread, behold the delusions that drive QA’s world view. In QA’s world, if the government didn’t DECIDE that people should stop at intersections, drivers would be incapable of doing so. I can only picture what those government-free intersections must look like in her fevered dreams- mass graves where drivers plow, lemming like, to their deaths on a daily basis.

        In fact, navigation customs and signals have predated government mandates for millennia. To be sure, governments have played a role in standardizing signals and subsidizing infrastructure throughout history, but the idea that individual drivers were incapable of deciding how to safely drive/boat/travel without government to decide for them is really as absurd as it sounds.

      5. Good to see you are a dumb bitch over here too, Queen — consistency!!!!!

  32. The average Illinoisan earns $55,770 a year at work. If that person stayed home with their kids and collected unemployment, it would be $51,627.

    All over the country, people are having trouble getting employees back to work. Restaurants are short staffed, shelves are empty, employers are paying ridiculous bonuses just to get people to turn in applications. And none of the boneheads in the Northeast portion of the country, none of the chattering heads on the television, seem to be able to figure out: If you pay people not to work, then people will not work.

    In other articles, they are complaining about the millions of job openings going unfilled, people unable to get a livable wage, at the same time people are getting paid (in this one state) $35/hour to not work. And Illinois is whining, yet again, about not having enough money to pay their overbloated pension plans. After receiving $14 billion in federal aid (1/3 of the entire state budget), they are unable to rein in spending, and just keep spending working people’s money on the non-working.

    Keep asking, nay, demanding more money from working people to cover your stupid, Illinois. This is how tax revolts start.

  33. Rubio wants Biden to block TikTok after Chinese govt stake in subsidiary of parent company

    Lil’ Taco don’t want Americans on TikTok.

    https://www.reuters.com/technology/rubio-wants-biden-block-tiktok-after-chinese-government-takes-stake-2021-08-17/

    1. “We must also establish a framework of standards that must be met before a high-risk, foreign-based app is allowed to operate on American telecommunications networks and devices.”

      Only commies use TikTok

      1. turd lies. If turd posts it, it’s a lie.
        turd is a pathological liar entirely too stupid to understand most other people know that.
        turd lies; it’s what turd does.

  34. I’m proud to say my little girl is in zero compliance with masking at school.

    1. And zero compliance with respecting other peoples property, especially cars.

  35. Lockdowns and occupancy restrictions are stupid and immoral.

    Vaccine and mask mandates are no big deal and fall under the harm principle easily (note, harm principle =/= Trump fealty principle).

    1. Either you love Trump and believe the election was stolen, or you’re a raging leftist who loves Biden an hates America.

      That’s it. Everyone in the world falls into one of those two categories.

      1. 3 posts before you broke again. Better than yesterday.

      2. What if you’re a drunk who suckholes raging leftists who love Biden and hate America, because you’re desperate for friends?

        1. Hi, incel!

          1. Incel is the far-left equivalent of “cuck”. Same sort of retard, different allegiances.

            Also, Hi White Mike. You can fuck yourself and all your sockpuppets with an icicle of frozen HO2.

      3. Either you drag strawmen around or you ain’t the asshole sarc.

      4. I don’t like trmp and believe the election was stolen.
        In swing states the Dnc sued and won to kick the green party candidate off the tickets, they said the signiture didn’t match and you can’t trust the mailings. Then they turned around and said that saying that is a conspiracy. Note Obama got his political start using this method
        Long story short if you make laws that say your political opponents can’t run *cough California cough * then it’s not a fair election. If you have 2 sets of rules, it’s a stolen election

      5. Pretty far into the thread, and only 2 people have even mentioned orange man.

        Why can’t you two quit this guy?

    2. Vaccine and mask mandates fall under the state use of force principle

      Fucking idiot.

      1. If you don’t know what the harm principle is, just say so. Lot’s of people are ignorant of lots of things.

        1. I don’t expect you to understand this, because every one of your statements is so packed with the strawmen of your fevered delusions that the words never even register for you, but for the other people who might read this thread:

          The harm principle says that we should only *limit* people if it would prevent harm to others. Note that doesn’t say we should *compel* people to do something, like inject themselves with chemicals. Merely that we should limit them if it would cause harm.

          1) For the sake of argument, let’s say that an infected person could cause harm to others, so maybe it justifies restraining that person from travel.
          2) If the person is NOT infected, they are not causing harm to anyone. Their vaccination status is irrelevant. They are not infected, so preventing their travel, or requiring them to wear a mask is not warranted according to the harm principle.
          3) Even if the person *is* vaccinated, they can be infected and there is evidence that they can spread the virus. So while the vaccine might help them fight off the virus, once again, a person’s vaccination status has no bearing on whether the harm principle applies. It is whether they are infected and shedding the virus that perhaps the harm principle would yield restrictions.

          So Vaccination Status is not what causes harm. But QA thinks the Harm Principle justifies forcibly sticking needles in peoples’ arms. Fantastic.

          1. When speech is considered harm, what’s the limiting principle?

            1. Any speech not praising proggies is harm, there is no limit, even neutral speech is harmful

          2. Then the harm principle should be amended to take into account scenarios where person A can harm person B by person B’s automatic bodily functions, such as breathing out air containing deadly viruses.

            1. Somehow we managed to make it this far without doing that. People have always had the potential to be carrying a deadly virus without knowing. This is not new.

              1. Yes, for most of human history. And lots of people died of diseases that we can now cure or prevent.

                Fairly recently in human history we figured out vaccination. Just last year we advanced again with mRNA vaccines.

              2. You’ve just made an incredibly collectivist argument, by the way.

                1. God damn youre an ignorant authoritarian. You made the case of extending harm to bodily exhalation. Go fuck yourself. Youre the statist authoritarian.

    3. Your “harm principle” can be if you want 0% risk of harm, stay at home with your mask on.

      If you want to come out in public, you can stand next to me at the grocery store with no mask and shut the fuck up. If you are an annoying Karen, you will be harmed

      1. F*ck those drunk driving and speed limit laws, amirite?

        1. Hey look, it’s QA fighting the deluded strawmen in her mind again.

          Again, while I don’t expect these words to penetrate through that deluded line of strawmen in QA’s head, for the benefit of others who might be reading this thread:

          A person who drives around despite knowing they are in an impaired state is likely to harm people. Going about your day while uninfected and unvaccinated does harm to NO ONE else. You have no virus to spread, so there is no Harm Principle justification for forcing you to stick a needle in your arm.

          And while it isn’t germane to this specific conversation, note that QA, and many of the ethically confused people out there, has conflated “doing something different that introduces risk” with “living your life normally, regardless of the risks that are inherent.” This terrible weakness of logical reasoning is why we have kids hassled for playing alone in the park. There is a basic inability among these people in their deluded states to understand that the default condition of life carries some inherent risk, and it is not justified to force others to mitigate those risks on our behalf.

          1. “Going about your day while uninfected and unvaccinated does harm to NO ONE else. You have no virus to spread, so there is no Harm Principle justification for forcing you to stick a needle in your arm.”

            Except that people can be infected and unvaccinated, showing no symptoms, yet still give the virus to grandma who then dies.

            1. Except that people can be infected and unvaccinated, showing no symptoms, yet still give the virus to grandma who then dies.

              “There is a basic inability among these people in their deluded states to understand that the default condition of life carries some inherent risk, and it is not justified to force others to mitigate those risks on our behalf.”

            2. Except that people can be infected and unvaccinated, showing no symptoms, yet still give the virus to grandma who then dies.

              That can happen with people who are “vaccinated,” too. What’s your point?

              1. Vaccinated folks are supposed to be better able to fight off the infection which makes them contagious for a shorter period of time.

                The point is that going out unvaccinated can cause harm to others.

                Don’t take that as an endorsement of mandates. I’m not down with that. But there is a legitimate argument to be made that refusing to get vaccinated can harm others.

                1. But if you are still spreading after getting vaccinated you did something but not everything you could so I’m not sure how this changes that they aren’t still causing harm.

                  1. You guys keep expecting me to defend things I never said. Sorry, but I don’t have the mental energy for this right now.

                    1. You are doing exactly what Jeff was. You walk up to the line. You say people should do exactly as you want. Then yell you never touched the actual line. It’s quite pathetic.

                    2. I never said anything about what people should or should not do.

                      All I said was that refusing to get vaccinated can cause harm to others. That’s it. Yet you interpret that to mean I want everyone to get vaccinated at gunpoint.

                      Why are you so completely and totally unable to respond to what I actually say? Seriously. Are you mentally defective?

                    3. The point is that going out unvaccinated can cause harm to others.

                      By the way dummy… the vaccinated can also spread the delta variant. So vaccination status has no bearing on the harm principle you are pushing.

                    4. I’m not pushing anything.

                      This is why I usually keep you on mute.

                      You argue against things I never said, and refuse to acknowledge anything I actually say.

                      It’s tiresome.

                      Back on mute you go.

                    5. Yes sarcasmic. It is the 10 people not understanding your sophomoric arguments and not that you dont understand what the fuck you write down.

                2. Going out in life can cause harm to others.

                  If you are asymptomatic, going out in public is the same risk unvaccinated or vaccinated.

                  So no, you’re wrong.

                3. “The point is that going out unvaccinated can cause harm to others.”

                  No. This is absolutely incorrect.

                  Going out INFECTED can cause harm to others. Your vaccination status does not change whether or not you are infected. The proximate cause of you infecting another person is not your vaccination status (since we know that the vaccinated can carry the virus). The proximate cause is your INFECTION status.

                  Now I get it. It is a bummer that we cannot know WHO is infected at any time. But requiring people to stick needles in their arms because we can’t know if they are an infected is basically no different than forcing people to submit to pervasive surveilance since we cannot tell if they are terrorists.

                  It’s kind of nuts that you don’t get this.

                  1. I’ve never said nor intentionally implied what you’re arguing against. So go hassle someone who actually supports vaccine mandates instead of demanding I defend something I never said.

                    1. ” So go hassle someone”

                      Really? You started this by replying *to me* and I’m hassling people?

                    2. poor choice of words, sue me

                    3. He didny mention mandates you retarded fuck. He pointed put the obvious flaws you made in regards to vaccinations. God damn clown.

                  2. And btw Sarc, the reason I am arguing this point with you- despite you saying that you don’t endorse mandates- is that if we accept your premise that “Walking around unvaccinated causes harm” then you are basically giving a base to those people who would lock us down.

                    Defining the point where “My punch touches your nose” means being very clear on what the cause of harm is, and what is not the cause of harm. I’m sorry if getting that specificity tires you, but it has to be done to distinguish QA’s “unvaccinated are like drunk drivers” bullshit from actual real, libertarian proposals.

                    1. if we accept your premise that “Walking around unvaccinated causes harm” then you are basically giving a base to those people who would lock us down.

                      I’m sorry you interpret it that way. As I’m sure someone has probably pointed out, driving to the grocery store might put more people at risk than actually going into the store unvaccinated without a mask.

                      But you’re not going to accuse me of encouraging people who want to ban cars.

                      I don’t know what you want.

                    2. How many times can someone simply repeat the flaws of your argument and you create a strawman to deny your argument is flawed?

                4. The point is that going out unvaccinated can cause harm to others.

                  It is not even a potentiality if you are not sick. All of the risk in being unvaccinated is only to yourself. If you can’t understand that, you are either willfully ignorant or evil.

                  I didn’t get COVID because I was unvaccinated. Nobody coughed or sneezed on me. I got it because I became less diligent about hand sanitizing. Once I knew that I had it, I quarantined until today when I tested negative.

                  My wife got COVID even though she was vaccinated. She got it because she chose not to isolate herself from me, and I definitely coughed in her presence. She also quarantined. We know she did not pass on the virus, because her only contacts were at her work in a retirement community and it would be a big giant deal if she had.

                  The point being that my vaccination status is absolutely immaterial to anybody else’s risk today, just like it was immaterial 3 weeks ago. The only increase in risk occurred when I was sick.

                  It is all fine and dandy that you agree that mandates are bad, but you are feeding the monsters that believe mandates are necessary by exaggerating the underlying risk to others from the unvaccinated. It’s not just that you are unlibertarian, you are completing misapplying the science of risk and the science of disease transmission. I understand why the lefty bastards do it, but you continually claim not be one. What the fuck is your problem then?

                5. Why didn’t grandma get vaccinated?

              2. Vaccinated folks are supposed to be better able to fight off the infection which makes them contagious for a shorter period of time.

                Doesn’t change the fact that they can, and have, still infect others.

                The point is that going out unvaccinated can cause harm to others.

                Not if you’re not infected.

                But there is a legitimate argument to be made that refusing to get vaccinated can harm others.

                Sure, but that primarily applies to vaccines that provide sterilizing immunity. It doesn’t mean much for one that’s effectively nothing more than a prophylactic.

                1. Funny how you glaze over the part where I said Don’t take that as an endorsement of mandates. I’m not down with that.

                  Why? I suppose so you can continue to argue against me as if I support mandates, even after I said I don’t. Multiple times.

                  1. Hey, he didn’t say you endorsed mandates!!! You’re making up what he said!!! How dare you!!!

                  2. Hey dipshit, I never even accused you of endorsing mandates and nothing I wrote there has anything to do with the subject.

                    How about you address the actual fucking statements I made, or go back to drowning yourself in Ripple.

                    1. He can’t do it. He thinks the 5 people pointing out the same flaw in his own posted words are simply misunderstanding him. He is ignorant and a child. He can’t admit he made a flawed argument.

                    2. At this point, he isn’t arguing with anyone other than the blubbering voices in his head. I’ve never seen any commenter, not even Tony or Hihn, make as many accusations of “stop arguing I said that!” to people who never actually made the argument that he’s claiming.

                      You’d think someone who was crowing as hard as he was about getting in to the Popular Clique at Glibs wouldn’t spend so much time here in a fugue state.

            3. Except even the CDC admits asymptomatic spread is near zero. But you’ve started meandering towards authority in the name of safety as you’ve buddied up w/ the usual left apologists.

              1. Hey retard. Look up. Like right above the comment of yours I’m replying to. See it?

                “Don’t take that as an endorsement of mandates. I’m not down with that.”

                Try responding to what I actually say instead of the voices in your head.

                1. Hey dummy, you were wrong in your post above. You state infection is based on vaccination status when asymptomatic people have a near zero rate.

                  How about you stop acting out of fear and actually arguing for the libertarian choice of actual liberty of choice. Something you continue to deny based on your arguments above.

                  But there is a legitimate argument to be made that refusing to get vaccinated can harm others.

                  Driving can harm others. Walking with your phone can cause you to bump into people. Walking around with no actual symptoms does not cause harm.

                  Sorry that you keep trying to condition the behavior of others to your choice of how they should act. Remember when you said you burned customers steaks for daring to ask for medium?

                  You’re acting just like Jeff. It’s quite funny.

                  “I didn’t say mandates, but you better do what I want based on my lack of knowledge!!!”

                  Good work man.

                  1. As usual you have thoroughly refuted something I never said.

                    Good work man.

                    1. LOL!

                      But there is a legitimate argument to be made that refusing to get vaccinated can harm others.

                      This is wrong dummy. I did refute it. In the absence of infection and symptoms, both required, there is no harm from a lack of vaccination.

                      Are you too dumb to understand this?

                    2. Getting a vaccination makes you less likely to have an infection and symptoms.

                      Are you too dumb to understand this?

                    3. Thats not what you argued you retarded shit. I quoted what you stated. What the fuck is actually wrong with you?

            4. Sarcasmic how do this apply to your view on the flu or an early stage staph infection?

              1. I don’t understand the question. I’m not saying people should be forced to get vaccinated. I’m simply disagreeing with the assertion that refusal has absolutely no possible impact on anyone else.

                1. Except the vaccinated status has no bearing on someone who is a) not infected and b) asymptomatic when they are. So the mask policy does not touch the harm principle outside of infected plus symptomatic. Which you seem too ignorant to realize. You’ve taken a small chance of possible harm from a subset of people and expanded it to an entire populace. This is why you are creeping towards authoritarianism. You just don’t realize it.

            5. “Except that people can be infected and unvaccinated, showing no symptoms, yet still give the virus to grandma who then dies.”

              So what? As I said above, we now have evidence that a person who IS vaccinated can also be infected and spread the virus.

              The vaccination is completely orthogonal to this problem. It does not prevent infection, so it does not stop you from potentially harming someone.

              What you are trying to do is to change the calculous from “it is ok to restrain people from doing something to harm others” to “it is ok to compel an action on someone that might under certain circumstances make that person less likely to harm another person.”

              1. I never said anything about compelling people. Jeez. I say “Gee, you know it might be a good idea to get vaccinated so you don’t accidentally kill grandma” and everyone jumps on me like I said “Y’all better get vaccinated whether you like it or not, and by golly I’m gonna get the government to make you do it at gunpoint!”

                You guys are mental.

                1. Dude. Come on. This thread was literally a response to QA calling for mandates based on the fact that being unvaccinated causes harm. I disagreed with that, and you tried to correct me. You joined a conversation where Mandates were the heart of the argument, and the question of whether vax status was a “cause” of harm.

                  So you started arguing semantics and now you are calling me mental? Jesus what happened to you?

                  1. How many times do I have to say “I don’t support mandates” before you’ll stop expecting me to defend mandates?

                    1. How many times do I have to say “I don’t support mandates” before you’ll stop expecting me to defend mandates?

                      At the very least you confounded the issue. When you find multiple people are arguing with you over something you claim not to believe, that should be a clue that your contribution was not illuminating.

                      I believe you did it on purpose to disrupt the argument because you do it all the time. The conversations around here would be better without you, troll.

                    2. How many times will you admit your initial premise about vaccinations being the vector of infecting others was wrong? My guess is zero.

                    3. Hey Chuck, I don’t remember fucking your sister.

                    4. Still trolling.

                    5. Chuck P still Mormoning and traitoring.

        2. Traffic enforcement has nothing to do with safety and everything to do with revenue. It’s nothing more than a tax on the poor.

        3. Fuck lefty assholes trying to pass strawmen off as an argument, lefty asshole

      2. Hey! That worked out great for David vetter

    4. I think many of these people want Trump to come f*ck their significant others. Now, I know many of the Trumpistas here are incels and have no others (they’re probably stupid Biden voters, amirite?), but this applies to their imagined others.

      1. It’s rich that an name based on Anime Char is calling people incels.

      2. The raging lefty queen asshole thinks someone is interested in her (?) erotic fantasies.
        We’re not, asshole. Fuck off and die.

    5. Which vaccines (and other medical procedures I suppose) can the government force you to take? Which ones can you refuse? Any? How is this decided?

      I have a better idea . Government can’t force you to take medicine.

    6. Oh, fuck off. Wearing a mask for a few days might not be a big deal. Wearing a mask for a fucking year absolutely is a big deal and people who just wave it away are fucked. It’s not healthy to wear a mask all the time. And it’s terrible psychologically. Seeing people’s faces is extremely important.
      A big deal had been made about how important it is to take care of mental health. But I guess now that doesn’t matter anymore.

  36. Illinois schools prohibit hairstyle discrimination:

    eliminate public schools. problem solved.

  37. Illinois schools can no longer ban cornrows, locs and braids, thanks to a West Side mom who fought hair discrimination.”

    Hopefully they’re still banning mullets though, right?

    1. Nope. In fact they’re making a comeback with young people. Possibly the strangest thing to come out of the last 18 months.

  38. Because Twitter knows who its bosses real enemies are:

    “The former President of the United States is banned from Twitter but the Taliban is not.”
    https://twitter.com/donie/status/1427618811944054786

  39. O/T – Fox is reporting that DoD wanted to keep Bagram open, but were overruled by State.

    1. I would not be surprised to find this is true- but we should also expect that everyone has begun throwing one another under the bus. For example, how is it possible that the State Department “overruled” the Department of Defense on troop deployment? What authority to they have to say when troops on a military base with active military operations will operate?

      Again, this may be possible, but it is also likely that there was a conversation between state and higher up military and State made a request and some general agreed. That isn’t the same as being overruled.

      One thing that we can be sure of: this was such a clusterfuck that everyone in government is going to be leaking selective information in CYA operations the likes of which even God has never seen.

  40. The only societal benefit mask mandates for school children can/will provide is that millions of parents will remove their children from the disastrous left wing communist training mills (aka public schools).

    1. If teacher’s unions and school boards were truly concerned about preventing/reducing the spread of covid (at schools), they’d be demanding proof of a covid vaccine by ALL teachers, administrators and support staff (as well as school board members).

      But instead of promoting/demanding vaccines for adult employees, the selfish teachers unions (who previously demanded school lockdowns) and school boards are blaming and punishing the children (by mandating mask wearing during school).

    2. homeschooling numbers have tripled since the start of the pandemic

      1. “Mission Accomplished”, then?

      2. good start.

  41. China vows to ‘crush’ any US troops on Taiwan ‘by force’ and conducts live fire naval exercises in South China Sea after Biden abandoned Afghanistan

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9905015/China-vows-crush-troops-Taiwan-force-Biden-abandoned-Afghanistan.html

    Not good…

    1. Didn’t Trump single handedly liberate Hong Kong?

      I read that on wingnut.com.

      I know Trumpers are fretting their asses off about Taiwan like Trump would do something Biden won’t do.

      1. I read that on wingnut.com.

        Dude, nobody cares about your shitty blog.

      2. turd lies. It’s all turd does. If turd post it, it is a lie.
        turd is a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to understand that we all know it.
        turd lies; it’s what turd does.

        1. Senile Sevo post the same shit over and over.

          It’s what the senile ole rummy does

  42. He was asked about freedom of speech under Taliban rule. Its pretty brutal when a terrorist organization calls out big tech for infringing on people’s rights.

    Taliban: the West Has No Grounds to Discuss Freedom of Speech When Facebook Censors People

    1. Facebook isn’t the government. You’re free to use other social media that’s more in line with your politics.

      1. Facebook has 3 billion subscribers, a GDP of $232 billion and bought $500 million worth of influence in the last election. It’s a fucking government.

        1. It’s not the US government.

          I don’t use social media. There’s no Twitter gestapo coming to my house forcing me to use it.

          If I did use it and they took down my posts because they disagreed with my politics I’d find another way to post it.

    1. Nah, numbers like that are more like a Tuesday.

  43. Are the people that who are so opposed to vaccine mandates just afraid of the shots? I get it, my young daughter is afraid of shots, so I get how you might be afraid. I always tell her there’s a lollypop waiting for her afterwords and she gets through her fear. Would that help with you guys?

    1. I’m going to have to get my third dose whenever I get my flu shot. Vaccine mandates are still evil.

    2. Two possibilities with this post:

      1) You are being deliberately obtuse by failing to distinguish a mandate from voluntarily action; or
      2) You really are that stupid.

      It really could go either way with you.

      1. It’s 2

        1. It’s neither. QA is just a cunty troll.

          1. Assholish, you might say.

      2. 3. trolls. don’t feed ’em.

    3. “…I get it…”

      No, queen asshole, not a chance.

    4. “Now is a critical time,” Israeli Minister of Health Nitzan Horowitz said as the 56-year-old got a COVID-19 booster shot on 13 August, the day his country became the first nation to offer a third dose of vaccine to people as young as age 50. “We’re in a race against the pandemic.”

      His message was meant for his fellow Israelis, but it is a warning to the world. Israel has among the world’s highest levels of vaccination for COVID-19, with 78% of those 12 and older fully vaccinated, the vast majority with the Pfizer vaccine. Yet the country is now logging one of the world’s highest infection rates, with nearly 650 new cases daily per million people. More than half are in fully vaccinated people, underscoring the extraordinary transmissibility of the Delta variant and stoking concerns that the benefits of vaccination ebb over time.

      The sheer number of vaccinated Israelis means some breakthrough infections were inevitable, and the unvaccinated are still far more likely to end up in the hospital or die. But Israel’s experience is forcing the booster issue onto the radar for other nations, suggesting as it does that even the best vaccinated countries will face a Delta surge.

      Booster to the booster to the booster to the booster to the booster to the booster to the booster to the booster to the booster to the booster to the booster…

      1. Linkypooh.

        A grim warning from Israel: Vaccination blunts, but does not defeat Delta

      2. Israel’s sobering setback
        Israel, which has led the world in launching vaccinations and in data gathering, is confronting a surge of COVID-19 cases that officials expect to push hospitals to the brink. Nearly 60% of gravely ill patients are fully vaccinated.

        1. Seems a perfect setup to never stop by our superiors

        2. Israel’s total COVID+ hospitalizations are half of ours (and half their own midwinter peak), and their daily new cases twice. We should recognize this for the scaremongering it is.

          1. It’s usually fair to assume that.

      3. And what’s so bad about getting a booster shot?

        1. Nothing. What’s bad is the potential for more mandates and restrictions of basic freedoms and the idea that we have to do these things to get back to normal. Many of us are quite ready to accept whatever risks remain and get back to regular life. This virus isn’t going away. People need to accept that we are going to be exposed to it and that that is going to have to be a big part of maintaining sufficient immunity. Eternal boosters and updates for whatever variants come along will keep us mired in this authoritarian bullshit forever.

          1. Why? Getting vaccinated is a simple, low-risk way to get rid of any need for mandates.

            1. If everyone gets a shot, government will refrain from mandates

              Youre fucking dumb WK.

      4. “We’re in a race against the pandemic.”

        Spoiler alert: you aren’t going to win.

      5. I’m starting to think that all the people who were sure the vaccines would provide longer lasting immunity were full of shit.

    5. If you don’t get it by now, you never will (or you are being deliberately obtuse). The problem is with the mandates, not the shot. Most people here opposing the mandates have been vaccinates as far as I can tell.

  44. In Los Angeles County, “eight in 1,000 Los Angeles Unified students tested positive for the coronavirus in the two weeks leading up to the Monday start of the academic year,” the Los Angeles Times reports. This amounts to an infection rate of 0.8 percent.

    Well that’s that. I guess they should shut down LA entirely now.

  45. ACLU in favor of culling of the genetically defective.

  46. Illinois schools can no longer ban cornrows, locs and braids, thanks to a West Side mom who fought hair discrimination.

    There’s something about the unlibertarian aspect to this where schools are no longer able to make choices about what they allow or disallow. Feels anti-freedom to me.

    1. I’m OK if it just applies to public schools. If you have to be there by law, I think telling people how they can do their hair goes too far.

  47. >>eight in 1,000 Los Angeles Unified students tested positive

    fake news everyone knows L.A. is virus free. re-elect Newsom!

  48. >>Illinois schools can no longer ban cornrows … thanks to a West Side mom who fought hair discrimination

    Bo Derek on line 2 …

  49. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/academic-dropped-over-racist-tweets-sues-university-citing-critical-race-theory/ar-AANqyKi?ocid=uxbndlbing

    “Aysha Khanom had her contract with Leeds Beckett Univesity (LBU), in West Yorkshire, terminated after a tweet calling right-wing commentator Calvin Robinson, who is of Black descent, a “house *****” was sent from the account of her organization, The Race Trust.”

    I am shocked and appalled. A lefty, self proclaimed “anti-racist”, calls a black person a “house *****” the second they step out of line.

    I sure am glad we have these people to teach us, and our kids, the way forward in society. Here I was allowing black people to be individuals with their own ideas and opinions. What I was not informed of, because of my lack of CRT education, is that they are either oppressed due to white supremacy, or “house *****” if they dont sing the right tune.

    Another win for the “anti-racists”

    1. KAR is Aysha Khanom?

      Damn.

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