New York and Michigan Will Force 2-Year-Olds To Wear Masks at Camp
As the pandemic improves, kids are being asked to make even more sacrifices.

The COVID-19 pandemic is coming to an end—cases and deaths are declining throughout the U.S. as more people become vaccinated—and government officials are finally repealing mask mandates and easing other restrictions.
But for very young children, government restrictions are actually growing more onerous. In Michigan and New York, for example, state officials recently expanded mask requirements for kids at camps and day cares. Now, for the first time, kids between the ages of 2 and 4 will be expected to mask up as well.
"To help ensure maximum protections for staff and children at child care and camp programs, we are issuing this guidance so the facilities can implement basic but critical measures that will allow them to operate safely," said New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) in a statement.
"We know that wearing a mask significantly reduces the spread of infection and should be part of the comprehensive strategy to reduce COVID-19-including for children age 2 and up," said Michigan's Chapter of the American Academy of Pediatrics.
Government officials are technically following guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). While it's now OK for fully vaccinated individuals to shed their masks and cease social distancing, the vaccines aren't yet approved for children, so they still have to follow the rules.
Previously, however, it seemed to be common sense that forcing toddlers to wear masks would be an exercise in futility, regardless. Little kids are messy and squirmy! Moreover, their rule-following skills are still developing.
Thankfully, the risk of COVID-19 for little kids is slight: Only about 300 Americans under the age of 18 have perished from coronavirus. For young people, COVID-19 really is just the flu, statistically speaking.
The greater danger has been that a child will contract COVID-19 and then pass it on to an adult. But vaccination is rapidly reducing that danger to practically nothing: The vaccinated staff of schools, day cares, and summer camps have nothing to fear from unmasked 2-year-olds, and the toddlers themselves already possess vaccine-level protection by virtue of being kids. As Brown University economist Emily Oster put it, "Your Unvaccinated Kid Is Like a Vaccinated Grandma."
As more and more adults become essentially immune to COVID-19, there is little reason for government authorities to keep mask mandates and restrictions in place for unvaccinated children. There's no excuse—none whatsoever—for broadening the restrictions. Kids have put up with enough.
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New York sending kids to camp. Adults to be sent soon thereafter.
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That's young. I was eight before the cult I was brought up in forced First Communion on me.
Hey, at least you got to have a snack and move your legs around a bit during the service.
Who sends a 2-year old to 'camp'? Daycare I can see - 'camp' notsomuch.
Anecdotally, the ballet program for my 2 year old this summer is being called a camp. It's just a couple hour long class a few times a week over the summer. And no masks required.
Nobody’s surprised DOL is sending his 2 year old to a camp.
As a parent of a couple of two years olds 26 and 24 years ago, sending them to camp would be unthinkable. My wife quit her job to stay home with them.
"We know that wearing a mask significantly reduces the spread of infection and should be part of the comprehensive strategy to reduce COVID-19-including for children age 2 and up,"
No, we fucking don't. I'm pretty sure that we do know that in places with full school and no masks, teachers are at no higher risk than anyone else.
It was a ridiculous statement.
That it was made by a doctors organization is just sad. I suppose they have wet dreams about the movie Bubble Boy.
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And I thought "the science" had been pretty consistent in saying that you should not mask young children. These people are fucking monsters.
And I thought “the science” had been pretty consistent in saying that you should not mask young children.
If you wanted to obfuscate rather than treat developmental disorders, such as those that slow facial recognition, masks at age 2 would be a good start.
One of the dumbest parts of this whole ordeal is that "the science" doesn't recommend any course of action. People have to interpret the "scientific data" and then make a judgement call. Its easy for politicians and health "experts" to avoid responsibility by submitting to "the science." Show me the lab culture that looks like the words "Put on a fucking mask" and maybe I'll play along.
Show me a surgeon who doesn't put on an effing mask.
They also work in a nearly perfect sterile environment, don sterilized outerwear, and have an intensive "scrub-in" routine. You see why we can't all do that every day everywhere, right?
Just you wait...
"Show me a surgeon who doesn’t put on an effing mask."
Suggest you look up "false equivalence"; you need an education or a disconnected keyboard.
https://www.newsweek.com/urine-test-helps-explain-importance-wearing-maskshumorously-1515728
Do you want your surgeon peeing all over you? I didn't think so!
What I'm getting from this is that I should be peeing on people who still insist on wearing masks.
Show me a giraffe. Any giraffe. Just as relevant as your stupid comment.
Seriously, how do all these dipshits find their way here?
Hopefully the 2 years aren't going to camp to cut people open.
Is there anything that makes politicians and bureaucrats as happy as ordering parents to abuse their children and then watching them do it?
Nothing that they do in public, anyway.
Maybe fining / jailing those who don't obey?
Getting wealthy off their positions.
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Tyrants.
While I can't speak for New York, there seems to be something sinister about Whitmer and Michigan.
She is totally drunk with power.
Right? She's like a Disney villain
As a resident of Michigan's Antrim County, I am totally fed up with the political situation here and throughout the country.
Whitmer especially, has abused her power and authority to the point of being not just tyrannical but stupidly so.
She, along with her little wannabe little SS Attorney General have made it quite clear that anyone who fails to obey her commands will face punishment. The woman from Holland, Mi. who dared to try to feed her family and provide a service to her community by keeping her restaurant open and then having the audacity to appear on Tucker Carlson's show one evening to give her side of the story, was, for her insolence, soon arrested and thrown in jail.
The damage done to Michigan's economy will be a long time recovering, if it even does so. I know of small businesses that are closed permanently thanks to Whitmer's ill informed decisions.
Even worse, former Michigan governor Granholm is now a member of Biden's energy board. Consider what she said concerning the oil pipeline hack and following hysteria.
THE PARTY OF SCIENCE
Here is some science.
https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/
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Albany and Lansing. Two places where a woodchipper by the curb should not raise too much alarm. There will have to be a lottery to decide who gets to give them the push.
Pro tip: If you slow the auger down, dull the teeth, and snatch them back out quickly, you can give multiple people the chance to push them in before they quit screaming.
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Ok, I laughed. 😀
Well the government learned a lot this past year, and the main thing was how much they could manipulate the public into believing whatever they said. It was quite the experiment. If we had an independent press asking real questions that would have made a difference, but we have bootlicking credulous buffoons pretending to be journalists. Amazing how fast we devolved into sovietization. Without the Cyrillic script fortunately.
Good examples are media echo chambers such as CNN and MSNBC.
I can understand the need for the government to protect us from others who'd harm us. But for a virus, we don't need the government to force us to protect ourselves. Talking about specific restrictions (good to show the insanity) misses the libertarian point, that it's not government's job to protect us from a virus.
The only government protection I want in a pandemic, is the government to remove trespassers who don't follow the property owner's safety rules. That allows me and other property owners to protect ourselves.
Instead, governments harmed us. THE CDC hindered testing kits. The FDA hindered vaccine development, The NIH (unknowingly?) and the CCP likely engaged in bio-weapon research masquerading as protecting us, creating the virus. Numerous officials locked us down and bankrupted many, while paying many government employees not to work. Some politicians said flights from China was xenophobic, and that it was safe to come visit their jurisdiction. And many politicians didn't even follow their own rules they made for the rest of us.
Fauci funded the virus creation.
That is not true, it's been proven not to be true, and you are obviously misinformed.
Nothing of the sort. That he directly funded it's creation is false, but there is very strong evidence that he indirectly and knowingly did.
Proven? Lol. Cite? Because NIH funding IDs are all over the documents and studies coming from the Wuhan research.
"That is not true, it’s been proven not to be true, and you are obviously misinformed."
By the absolute narrowest of assumptions, including that money is not fungible, you can easily get other gullible pieces of lefty shit to agree with you.
Fuck off and die, slaver.
I too like to join a new comment board and start off by spewing bullshit with every post.
Pretty much tony-esque say something false never respond when called on it.
Not to mention, there's been no correlation between lockdowns and deaths at all. All the shit they are demanding doesn't actually help the situation.
How about somebody protecting us from the government; no worse enemy of the American people than a government that seeks only power and tyranny.
Hopefully, the Second Amendment will answer that question.
child abuse
As Brown University economist Emily Oster put it, "Your Unvaccinated Kid Is Like a Vaccinated Grandma."
Well put, and thanks for the link. Although I totally disagree with her conclusion that we need to jab little kids ASAP, at least she thinks they should be allowed to do normal things until they become guinea pigs this fall. Not mine.
grr, messed up the italics tag
The thing you have to realize about people like Whitmer, Cuomo, Walz, Murphy, Newsom, and Wolf is that they're out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
And they'll be back
Quite frankly, I believe Cuomo is a psychopath or at the very least suffering from narcissistic personality disorder.
He has no remorse over the deaths of the thousands of elderly people he caused. None what so ever. He used his power to threaten a member of his own party with destruction. He shows no remorse over the sexual aggression he displayed towards other women.
My guess is Cuomo is a psychopath. It would be interesting to hear Dr. Todd Grande analyze Cuomo.
Pure inanity. Just look at CDC figures for child mortality from Covid. There have been, what, 300 deaths aged 0-17? More kids died of swine flu. Not to mention the tens of thousands of other kids that die each year of other things.
Every one of those kids was severely immune compromised and would have died from any other virus.
It is a fact that the unvaccinated are at as great a peril as they were at the very inception of the plague. They are dying at the same rate, even though the general population numbers are down. If you factor out the vaccinated from the numbers, the unvaccinated are shown to be at greater risk.
What does this have to do with the risk to children? That the risk is miniscule?
"It is a fact that the unvaccinated are at as great a peril as they were at the very inception of the plague. They are dying at the same rate, even though the general population numbers are down. If you factor out the vaccinated from the numbers, the unvaccinated are shown to be at greater risk."
As a pathetic lefty ignoramus, I'm sure you thought there was some relevance to your comment. Similarly to when your mommy said you were 'smart', you're wrong.
Fuck off and die, slaver.
So minimal risk.
And that is their choice. It is a different story when a Democratic party governor directs sick people into condensed housing populated by a vulnerable population.
A study last week said even that number is inflated by 40%
"To help ensure maximum protections for staff and children at child care and camp programs, we are issuing this guidance so the facilities can implement basic but critical measures that will allow them to operate safely," said New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) in a statement.
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Pediatricians have the lowest board scores coming out of medical school, after psychiatrists. Not surprised that they would make comments like this.
>While it's now OK for fully vaccinated individuals to shed their masks and cease social distancing, the vaccines aren't yet approved for children, so they still have to follow the rules.
No, actually, they don't. The CDC didn't issue "rules," they issued "guidance." It's up to the politicians in those states to issue the actual laws that this poor kids have to follow. Passing the buck is cowardly, this is on Whitmer and Cuomo.
You should never, ever, ever, ever, ever let bureaucrats at a place filled with doctors and epidemiologists set public policy. Their job is information. You take their guidance with a grain of salt and then balance it with the actual, real world implications to create the appropriate rules.
“It’s up to the politicians in those states to issue the actual laws”
And in most cases, not actual laws, but unconstitutional edicts by the executive branches of these states. Unless these edicts are completely overturned by the judiciary within the next year, our fine experiment in a Constitutional Republic is over.
If you didn't want the government bossing your kids around, then you shouldn't have had children. On top of everything else, they raise your carbon footprint, too. Having children is totally irresponsible. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
Not sure if Ken is just kid-ding around.
Sarcasm from ken. Good work.
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Is there a way for the people of Michigan to recall Gretchen Whitmer already?
"LANSING, Mich. (AP) — Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer threatened Tuesday to go after Enbridge’s profits from a Great Lakes oil pipeline if the company defies her order to shut it down.
The Democratic governor issued the warning in a letter to the Canadian energy transport company on the eve of a state-imposed deadline to halt operation of Line 5, which moves oil through northern Wisconsin and Michigan to refineries in Ontario. Enbridge repeated its intention to defy Whitmer’s demand."
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/michigan-gov-gretchen-whitmer-threatens-profit-seizure-if-great-lakes-oil-pipeline-keeps-operating-01620766244
She's basically running for president at this point. My understanding is that we have a treaty with Canada that prohibits her from doing this. Forcing the closure of a pipeline in the midst of an energy crisis is a progressive's idea of "leaning in". In this case, I've read that she's cutting off energy for the people of the Upper Peninsula in her own state. Why haven't they recalled her already? Can they do that in Michigan?
Maybe she just wants to share the prosperity of Detroit with the rest of the state.
"No public authority in the territory of either Party shall institute any measures, other than those provided for in Article V, which are intended to, or which would have the effect of, impeding, diverting, redirecting or interfering with in any way the transmission of hydrocarbon in transit.
----Transit Pipelines Treaty (1977)
https://www.treaty-accord.gc.ca/text-texte.aspx?id=101884
Article V states that someone like Whitmer can temporarily stop the flow through the pipeline if there were a natural disaster, a spill, an emergency, something like that, but Whitmer wants to stop it permanently under the pretense of an emergency that doesn't exist.
It's just a progressive boycott of fossil fuels in an attempt to force consumers and businesses, in Michigan and elsewhere, to use other forms of energy or do without, and she knows that the Biden administration probably won't do anything to stop her--even though she's threatening to confiscate the profits of a Canadian company.
And Trudeau probably won't stick up for the Canadian company either. Which is a shame, because it would be awesome to watch some Mounties ride up on their moose in Lansing.
"Hey, we're here to arrest the governor, eh?"
Whitmer has stepped way out of line.
I have signed a petition to impeach and remover her.
Wanna bet she would be perfectly happy to see gas prices climb to $5.00 or even $6.00/gallon.
Singed, angry resident of Antrim County.
Ha yeah nobody cares about the UP except us.
Wisconsinites care
All of the flatlanders go up north in the summer. It's what they do.
There are some of us trolls(living below the bridge) who are concerned.
To those who are not Michiganders, a troll is someone who lives south of the Mackinac bridge.
Anyone who lives in the U.P./Upper Peninsula is sometimes called a Yooper .
By the way, if ever you get up to Michigan's upper peninsula, make sure you take the drive up the Keweenaw Peninsula to Copper Harbor and make sure you stop at the Jam Pot along M-26, run by monks from a Catholic monastery.
Lots of goodies.
The Republican Party here is as effective as the Libertarian Party in opposition to her. They do like to go on WJR and talk shit about her though.
The problem is that Michigan's cities are liberal democrats for the most part and outvote the rest of us north of Lansing/Grand Rapids.
Detroit, Ann Arbor, Brighton, Kalamazoo, Benton Harbor....the entire lot elected Whitmer to office.
Moreover, their rule-following skills are still developing.
Maybe this can teach them the difference between rules that should generally be followed from those that should be ignored or openly defied.
Little kids are messy and squirmy! Moreover, their rule-following skills are still developing.
"Very well. Tranquilizers in their Puddin' Pops, or whatever kids eat these days. *Then* the masks."
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*potentially disturbing*
Officer arrived on scene of a working house fire and is immediately fired upon by an individual in a red truck.
[Video]
Something very similar happened in my neighborhood about 13 years ago.
Dude was mad that the city gave him a citation for not keeping his yard maintained, so he lit his truck on fire at about 5 AM and waited for the police to arrive. When the parking brake cable failed on his vehicle, the burning pickup rolled down his driveway and hit a parked car across the street. At that point, it was visible to the overnight clerk at the 7-11, and she called it in.
The first people to respond were the local Fire Department - and this guy was in his upstairs window already sniping at them. He killed a rookie firefighter before the police were able to lock down the area. What happened next is kind of in dispute - the news reports say that he burned his own house down, but some of my neighbors say that the police set it. They definitely didn't attempt to put it out or even control it. Either way, 3 houses burned, one young firefighter was murdered.
https://www.foxnews.com/story/firefighter-shot-to-death-while-responding-to-fire-near-st-louis
My sister reports that she would just like her 3 year old toddler to eat green vegetables.
Good luck with those masks.
These people are evil. They are willing to make little kids suffer purely in order to politically virtue signal. Any society that treats it's children this way deserves to be destroyed. Let the kids free already!
I forgot to mention that, in order to have a few more months of life (at the end), the Boomers not only ruined the education and future earnings of tens of millions of school age children, they also saddled them with an insane debt to pay off. The debt before covid was bad- now it's like going on a coke binge with a credit card.
If I was younger I'd be sooo pissed. Hell, I'm middle aged and pissed beyond belief.
And yes, the Democrats stole the fucking election.
Stole the election? 'Fortified' it, with vitamin 'D' . . .
You have no idea what you are talking about.
The greater danger is that children will contract COVID-19 and pass it on to adults, but this is not a reason to control children
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Good luck trying to “force” a two year old or four year to do anything.
Let’s go with. “Time to turn off the TV, take a bath and go to bed. “
See how much fun that is.
Two year olds go to camp??? Since when?
Good question. I stayed at home until I started kindergarten!
Michigan Governor Whitmer has just announced that all dead people must wear a mask, especially if they are in their casket being viewed.
She also ordered all unborn fetuses to wear a mask even though they are still inside their mothers.
Anybody who complains about her orders will be visited by Atty. Gen. Nellis and her enforcers.
Furthermore, she has banned all forms of water recreation for the summer for reasons....well, just because she can. No, you can't go fishing, you might give the covid to some minority fish.
All persons gathered around the camp fire must wear a mask. Even the family dog. (Can't be too careful).
Gov. WHitler threatens to cancel summer in Michigan unless everyone obeys, which includes taking the kill shot.
That was Nessel, not Nellis.
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New York and Michigan Will Force Newborns To Wear Masks in The Hospital Nursery
New York and Michigan Will Force Terminal Patients To Wear Masks at Hospice
New York and Michigan Will Corpses To Wear Masks at The Funeral Home
New York and Michigan Will Force Newborns To Wear Masks in The Hospital Nursery
New York and Michigan Will Force Terminal Patients To Wear Masks at Hospice
New York and Michigan Will Corpses Force To Wear Masks at The Funeral Home
New York and Michigan Will Not Force Governors To Wear Masks Anywhere
New York and Michigan Will Force Newborns To Wear Masks at The Hospital Nursery
New York and Michigan Will Force Terminal Patients To Wear Masks at Hospice
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The first people to respond were the local Fire Department – and this guy was in his upstairs window already sniping at them. He killed a rookie firefighter before the police were able to lock down the area. What happened next is kind of in dispute – the news reports say that he burned his own house down, but some of my neighbors say that the police set it. They definitely didn’t attempt to put it out or even control it. Either way, 3 houses burned, one young firefighter was murdered.
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Or as Mark Steyn put it the other day:
"... since March 2020 we have prioritized "exposure to risk" over life itself. And for a year we walled up our dwindling number of young 'uns in small flats with no school chums, no stimulation, no physical activity: that's a society whose "assumptions" are old.
And in the end the old people died anyway...
For young kids, Covid might actually be less dangerous than the seasonal flu. With vaccination available, around 150 kids in the USA are killed by the flu in most years; it's hard to come up with a real CFR or IFR because nobody tracks total flu cases, and it's possible that the majority don't get seen by a doctor and wouldn't be subject to being counted anyway.
If the estimates that 60-70% of Covid cases in kids were asymptomatic are anywhere near accurate, there's also no way of really coming up with an accurate IFR for Covid in that age range as well, but with less than twice as many deaths from a virus with no available vaccine (and a highly politicized situation around a number of treatments) over 3 times the duration of a typical "flu season", it seems entirely possible that the regular Flu (which has never led to a school shutting down) is statistically more dangerous than Covid.
For young kids, it seems like the danger from Covid is maybe on par with the danger from Chicken Pox; a virus which parents used to deliberately try to infect their kids with for generations before the vaccine was developed, and that was considered to be good parenting (because that virus is far more dangerous to adults).