U.S. Saw Fewer Suicide Deaths in 2020 but More Drug Overdose Deaths
Plus: Safe deposit box seizures spawn lawsuit, at-home COVID-19 testing finally legal, and more...

Suicide was 11th leading cause of U.S. mortality in 2020. There was a lot of speculation last year that business shutdowns and stay-at-home orders associated with COVID-19 would cause suicide rates to spike. Now, new evidence published in The Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) suggests this prediction may have been wrong. In fact, the number of U.S. deaths by suicide seems to have been slightly lower in 2020 than it was in the four preceding years.
Last year saw 44,834 Americans kill themselves, according to provisional data from the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) and the National Vital Statistics System (NVSS). That's down from 47,511 in 2019, 48,344 in 2018, 47,173 in 2017, and 44,965 in 2016.
We do not know from the data in question whether the number of attempted suicides changed at all last year.
It's also worth noting that another category of so-called deaths of despair—drug overdose deaths—did increase significantly in 2020.
In total, the U.S. saw 3,358,814 deaths last year—up 17.7 percent from 2019—according to the provisional data. The 2020 numbers include 345,323 deaths from COVID-19, making the novel coronavirus the new third-leading cause of death.
Suicide was the 11th leading cause of death last year, having been pushed out of the top 10 by COVID-19.
"Cause-of-death data are based on the underlying cause of death, which is the disease or condition responsible for initiating the chain of events leading to death," notes JAMA. The provisional data it reported last week are "based on currently available death certificate data from the states to the NCHS as of March 21, 2021. Final mortality data will be available approximately 11 months after the end of the data year."
The leading U.S. cause of death last year remained heart disease, with 690,882 heart disease deaths last year. This number has been slowly but steadily ticking up over the past five years, from 633,842 heart disease deaths in 2015.
The second leading cause of death remained cancer, with slightly fewer cancer deaths last year than in 2017–2019. The provisional data list 598,932 cancer deaths last year.
Unintentional injuries were the fourth leading cause of U.S. mortality in 2020—with 192,176 deaths last year, up from 173,040 in 2019. "Increases in unintentional injury deaths in 2020 were largely driven by drug overdose deaths," according to the JAMA analysis.
These were followed by stroke (159,050 deaths), chronic lower respiratory diseases (151,637 deaths), Alzheimer's disease (133,382 deaths), diabetes (101,106 deaths), influenza and pneumonia (53,495), and kidney disease (52,260 deaths).
"Most of the increase in deaths from 2019 to 2020 was directly attributed to COVID-19. However, increases were also noted for several other leading causes of death," note the JAMA researchers.
These increases may indicate, to some extent, underreporting of COVID-19, ie, limited testing in the beginning of the pandemic may have resulted in underestimation of COVID-19 mortality.6 Increases in other leading causes, especially heart disease, Alzheimer disease, and diabetes, may also reflect disruptions in health care that hampered early detection and disease management.
In other news related to COVID-19 and mortality: New estimates from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) suggest the virus is deadlier than previous estimates let on.
"According to the 'best estimate' in the most recent version of the CDC's COVID-19 Pandemic Planning Scenarios, 9 percent of people 65 or older who are infected by the COVID-19 virus die from the disease," notes Reason's Jacob Sullum.
The estimated infection fatality rates (IFRs) for other age groups are much lower but still generally higher than the numbers the CDC was using prior to March 19.
The estimated IFR is 0.002 percent for people 17 or younger, 0.05 percent for 18-to-49-year-olds, and 0.6 percent for 50-to-64-year-olds. The CDC's prior estimates used somewhat different age groups, which makes direct comparisons tricky. But the estimated IFR for the oldest age group has risen dramatically, from 5.4 percent for 70+ to 9 percent for 65+.
The new estimates are also higher for the second-oldest group (0.6 percent for 50-to-64-year-olds now vs. 0.5 percent for 50-to-69-year-olds previously) and the second-youngest group (0.05 percent for 18-to-49-year-olds vs. 0.02 percent for 20-to-49-year-olds). The new estimate for the youngest age group is lower (0.002 percent for 17 or younger vs. 0.003 percent for 19 or younger), but that may reflect the lower cutoff.
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• Pediatricians are speaking out against an Arkansas law that will ban hormone therapy and gender confirmation procedures for anyone under age 18. The Libertarian Party of Arkansas has also condemned the measure, saying it "steps all over the doctor-patient-parent relationship."
• California teachers unions say members need free child care in order to go back to work in person. "The demand is salt in the wound for parents who struggled with distance learning at home amid intense reopening negotiations that have dragged on for a year," writes Mackenzie Mays at Politico.
• Never underestimate New York City's nanny state capabilities:
It's absolutely incredible that you still technically have to be an officially certified artist to live in SoHo, with a certificate from the NYC Department of Cultural Affairs !!! https://t.co/7EzMv7HCW3 pic.twitter.com/HGkSh2cChG
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• "Wartime rationing changed how America ate for a century," notes Reason's Liz Wolfe. Will the pandemic do the same?
• "New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo and state lawmakers are nearing a budget agreement that would increase corporate and income taxes by $4.3 billion a year and would make top earners in New York City pay the highest combined local tax rate in the country," The Wall Street Journal reports. "Legislators were briefed on a plan under which income-tax rates would rise to 9.65% from 8.82% for single filers reporting more than $1 million of income and joint filers reporting more than $2 million, the people said."
• Reason's Ron Bailey explores "the therapeutic possibilities of mRNA technology," which "extend beyond infectious diseases and cancers."
• The Washington Post takes us "inside the Teen Vogue mess."
• Conor Friedersdorf interviews Ndona Muboyayi, one of the parents leading the charge against anti-racism curriculum in Evanston, Illinois.
• All culture war, all the time (sighhhhhh):
"A new GOP political memo argues the party should embrace a working-class agenda, but nearly all of the issues highlighted (except trade policy) are cultural in nature: 1) immigration; 2) anti-wokeness; 3) Big Tech; 4) trade; 5) coronavirus lockdowns."https://t.co/LwyvXHSXWp
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In fact, the number of U.S. deaths by suicide seems to have been slightly lower in 2020 than it was in the four preceding years.
From the suicide column back into the COVID column.
Does not wearing a "cloth face covering" count as attempted suicide?
No, but it symbolizes the death of rational thought.
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If only that were all it took to kill "rational thought". Hell, if it were even marginally effective at preventing the spread of "rational thought", it may be worth it.
I'd like to see a break down of suicide by age it seems like a lot more youth suicides this year and it was attributed it to being in lockdown. I think they are just trying to cover their tales about the lockdown how bad teh lockdown was. In my community there were also far more deaths from overdose which can be attributed to lockdowns
I think there is just a common narrative about all suicides in 2020. That doesn't mean there were more of them.
You are a statist who's only contribution on this site is as a government apologist, the kind of useful idiot who justifies the destruction of lives and loss of freedom as necessary for the greater good, and then claims ignorance when shit falls apart. You are the most dangerous kind of fool. Go pound sand.
It's pretty twisted how desperately some people wanted the suicide rate to increase last year.
Some wanted it to go up so desperately that when the number of deaths from suicide actually dropped they couldn't accept it and said crazy things like, "I think they are just trying to cover their tales about the lockdown how bad teh lockdown was." I can't imagine how broken one must be to disappointed that more people didn't kill themselves.
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It's also worth noting that another category of so-called deaths of despair—drug overdose deaths—did increase significantly in 2020.
Statistical science will be the only science we use in evaluating mitigation policy.
Lies, damned lies, and science!
It's also worth noting that reason felt that information was so worth noting that they included it in the HEADLINE
"Conor Friedersdorf interviews Ndona Muboyayi, one of the parents leading the charge against anti-racism curriculum in Evanston, Illinois."
If you're against anti-racism, then you're pro-racism. Exactly like how if you're against Antifa, you're pro-fascism.
#LibertariansForAntifa
Only Siths deal in absolutes.
Concerned about the possibly illegal contents in some safe deposit boxes at Beverly Hills-based U.S. Private Vaults, the FBI and Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) raided the whole place and seized the contents of every safe deposit box there.
Some judge signed off on this?
Absolutely disgusting, if the story is as the headline states.
Further proof, if more were needed, that we are heading towards governance that has rejected the Constitution, and the idea of objective universal law and order.
All levels of government really are essentially lawless right now, aren't they.
Even five years ago I never imagined it would rot this quickly.
Not to go too Statist, but to avoid throwing out any babies with the massive ocean of bathwater; but FBI and DEA are both Federal agencies. There are still plenty of local governments that (e.g.) didn't cooperate with lockdown orders.
FDA finally legalizes at-home COVID-19 testing.
Can I print my own passport from the results?
Sure. However, it won't be, um, legal.
This is America.
You can print whatever you want.
I knew the Biden Era would be awesome. I just didn't know it would be THIS awesome.
BREAKING: Border crossings in March jumped to highest level in 15 years, according to preliminary CBP data
So much cost-effective labor pouring into this country. Great news for billionaire employers like Reason.com's benefactor Charles Koch.
#LibertariansForBiden
Great savings on farmhands, nannies, gardeners and pool boys, and no more worrying about labour standards.
It truly is a haute bourgeoisie moment. Thanks Biden.
The Libertarian Party of Arkansas has also condemned the measure, saying it "steps all over the doctor-patient-parent relationship."
Arrogant doctors vs weirdo parents vs asshole legislators. The kids don't stand a chance.
California teachers unions say members need free child care in order to go back to work in person.
THAT'S WHAT SCHOOL IS.
Like they would send their kids to public school.
Like teachers make enough to send their kids to private schools, especially when they are less than 3 years old.
What grade where you in when you were 5 months old?
How about a year.
What about when you were two? three? four?
Have you figured this out yet, or do I need to keep going?
It's absolutely incredible that you still technically have to be an officially certified artist to live in SoHo, with a certificate from the NYC Department of Cultural Affairs !!!
If my culture isn't cloistered and certified then it's no culture at all.
The New York Times has an excellent piece describing how we nonbinary people have been hit especially hard by the pandemic.
How Do I Define My Gender if No One Is Watching Me?
"No longer on the alert for how to signal a restaurant’s waitstaff that neither 'he' nor 'she' applied to me, or for whether colleagues and neighbors would use the right language — devoid of anyone to signal my gender to — I felt, suddenly, amorphous and undefined. It was as though when I had swapped my Oxford shoes and neckties for fuzzy slippers and soft sweatpants, I, too, had lost my sharply tailored definition."
Amazingly, some science-denying bigots like my brother-in-law claim nonbinary gender identity is "made-up nonsense for people desperately seeking attention." Thoughtful pieces like this one easily disprove that lie.
#LGBTQ+
When can I preorder your book?
This is something that many people don't seem to be able to do anymore: live their lives without being stroked because they're "so special". The biggest terror for any activist seems to be winning the cause they're advocating for. Unlike Inigo Montoya, they apparently can't settle for just being a good Dread Pirate Roberts.
I think that this is part of the reason why race hustlers like Ibram X. Kendi are so nutty now, and why psychotic ideas like critical race theory are being pushed so hard.
They won but the grifters among them still need their grift.
I think the LGBT movement, or at least the LGB part, is an even more prominent example. All of their main causes - ban on discrimination based on sexual orientation, same-sex marriage, general reduction in social stigma - were achieved years ago. Trans rights are the new frontier, even though much of it is actually detrimental to the LGBs.
"Wartime rationing changed how America ate for a century," notes Reason's Liz Wolfe. Will the pandemic do the same?
At home, in America's pajamas, at the risk of a essential minimum wage delivery worker's exposure, while scolding others online?
And you have to put your mask on in between bites.
To be fair, I do keep extra supplies of nonperishables around because I've learned that at any moment, a politician can arbitrarily exercise his power and close businesses at the snap of his finger and then all of a sudden I can't find toilet paper or tomato paste or rice for the next couple of weeks. I'm sure I'm not the only one that picked up a habit to stock up.
I now have three years of food supplies and non perishables on hand at all times. If times got very hard, all I would need are perishables like milk, or fresh veggies/fruit, and medicines.
A blade never needs reloading.
Max Brooks
Zombie survival handbook
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo and state lawmakers are nearing a budget agreement that would increase corporate and income taxes by $4.3 billion a year and would make top earners in New York City pay the highest combined local tax rate in the country...
New York's tax base loss is Florida and Texas' gain.
They will end up living next to Trump after all.
Who would risk fleeing New York (the model for covid response) for those covid invested hellholes just to save a few bucks?
Which is unfortunate, because they'll try to turn Florida into the shithole they made New York. California's 10 year tax should be standard nationwide.
Reason's Ron Bailey explores "the therapeutic possibilities of mRNA technology," which "extend beyond infectious diseases and cancers."
Big Pharma using the pandemic as an excuse to get in there and cure our diseases? If only.
Developing cures for the cancer caused by the ‘rona vaccine isn’t going to happen all by itself.
They want to cure “Gun-violence” first.
The Washington Post takes us "inside the Teen Vogue mess."
Soon journalism will be nothing more than 20-something journalists investigating other 20-something journalists for our selectively outrageous delight but mostly increasing indifference.
Soon?
Conor Friedersdorf interviews Ndona Muboyayi, one of the parents leading the charge against anti-racism curriculum in Evanston, Illinois.
(Metaphorically) drag that white supremacist!
A new GOP political memo argues the party should embrace a working-class agenda, but nearly all of the issues highlighted (except trade policy) are cultural in nature: 1) immigration; 2) anti-wokeness; 3) Big Tech; 4) trade; 5) coronavirus lockdowns.
Some of those cultural concerns bleed substantially into real life concerns.
Yea, I'm not sure how anyone can say that coronavirus lockdowns aren't affecting the working-class. Or that immigration doesn't affect current American employees.
Imagine being so dumb that you think lockdowns aren't a working-class issue.
Imagine being so dumb you think trade is merely a cultural issue. TRADE. wtf.
Imagine being so self-righteous that you know working class issues better than the entirety of the working class *and* the GOP.
People have been pointing out that the racial and gender equity portions of the GND, vaccine rollouts, and the widthdrawal of troops from Afghanistan, have nothing to do with the science and/or geopolitics, but at least now Reason will be able to stick with the "both sides" narrative.
How are immigration and trade cultural issues?
I’d love to hear Dee try and defend this particular bit of stupid from ENB. Anti-wokeness is the only one that’s even remotely “cultural”, but now that it’s becoming part of school curriculum, it’s spread beyond culture.
FFS Reason even covered the story about the school in Virginia where the parents against CRT in their school being doxed. Once people involved in ANY issue start doxing people to try and ruin their lives, it’s no longer just cultural.
https://twitter.com/wretchardthecat/status/1378919563484536833
In certain respects China is post-post Woke. They've been there done that during the Cultural Revolution. Now it's all they can do to keep from laughing at the Western Mod Squad.
I wouldn't be surprised if they were causing it, Bezmenov style.
WOW! Loudoun County, VA school committee chair writes in email that teachers against Critical Race Theory ‘cannot be tolerated’
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/04/01/wow-loudoun-county-va-school-committee-chair-writes-in-email-that-teachers-against-critical-race-theory-cannot-be-tolerated/
We cannot tolerate those that are different from us!
Ve vill not tolerate intolerance!
Just a cultural issue. Move on.
-ENB
I grew up in the Fifth Ward, a predominantly Black neighborhood. My mom is African-American and very Afrocentric. We had Black dolls. We had books about Africa. We had all of this imagery that was positive reinforcement for who we were. We did have white friends. But to be honest, our life didn’t revolve around white people.
OK....
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
My life doesn’t revolve around a whole race of people either. It’s intertwined and intermingled with specific individuals, like most normal people.
We had books about Africa in my home too; Aa-Ag.
Take a look/listen to the Loudoun County online lesson clip, wherein a teacher attempts to browbeat a student into making a racial comment on a photo with two young women. The student's response is brilliant. Fun fact, and one I'm sure the teacher did not know, is that the women in the photo are twins, even though one looks Black and the other looks like a soulless ginger.
That county's idiocy has popularized the term "Chardonnay Antifa." One of the richest locales in the country.
Was supposed to be a reply to Ras.
Link?
https://youtu.be/Wes3vpnD90Q
Fun fact, and one I’m sure the teacher did not know, is that the women in the photo are twins, even though one looks Black and the other looks like a soulless ginger.
Heh, I've actually seen that picture. It must be part of some white-hating lesson plan that was distributed to a bunch of schools.
It was in the morning email, yes.
As Cuomo Sought $4 Million Book Deal, Aides Hid Damaging Death Toll
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/31/nyregion/cuomo-book-nursing-homes.html
Mr. Cuomo leaned on his top aide, Melissa DeRosa, for assistance. She attended video meetings with publishers, and helped him edit early drafts of the book. But there was also another, more pressing edit underway at the same time.
An impending Health Department report threatened to disclose a far higher number of nursing home deaths related to the coronavirus than the Cuomo administration had previously made public. Ms. DeRosa and other top aides expressed concern about the higher death toll, and, after their intervention, the number — which had appeared in the second sentence of the report — was removed from the final version.
The revisions occurred as the governor was on the brink of a huge payoff: a book deal that ended with a high offer of more than $4 million, according to people with knowledge of the book’s bidding process.
A New York Times examination of the development of Mr. Cuomo’s lucrative book deal revealed how it overlapped with the move by his most senior aides to reshape a report about nursing home deaths in a way that insulated the governor from criticism and burnished his image.
Mr. Cuomo also utilized the resources of his office — from his inner circle to far more junior personnel — to help with the manuscript. In late June and early July, for example, a top aide to the governor, Stephanie Benton, twice asked assistants to print portions of the draft of the book, and deliver them to Mr. Cuomo at the Executive Mansion in Albany, where he lives.
You have to admit, he certainly knows how to get the most out of a team.
It's weird that a nobody like me has know about this story for a year but the "media" is just now picking it up.
Remember when Scott walker's employees got pre dawn raided over a similar infraction?
"Pediatricians are speaking out against an Arkansas law that will ban hormone therapy and gender confirmation procedures for anyone under age 18. The Libertarian Party of Arkansas has also condemned the measure, saying it "steps all over the doctor-patient-parent relationship."
Stepping all over the doctor-patient relationship doesn't appear to be the primary issue from a libertarian standpoint. Doctors don't have a fundamental right to treat children without their parents' knowledge and consent, but parents do have a fundamental right to make decisions about the welfare of their children. Rights are the obligation to respect other people's choices, and the government is obligated to protect rather than violate the right to make choices about the welfare of our children. This law appears to be stepping all over the parent-child relationship if it prevents medical care that parents want for their children.
The idea that medical professionals can or should be able to give our children a medical procedure without their parents' consent or knowledge (just because it's an abortion, for instance) is problematic from a libertarian perspective, and so is the idea that the government can or should insert itself between parents and their children when it comes to medical decisions. There are already laws against parents abusing their children. If the government wants to charge parents for something like that, they should get a warrant.
P.S. The principle that neither medical professionals nor the government should interfere in the relationship between parents and their children, unless some kind of abuse is alleged, remains the same regardless of whether you call them "reassignment procedures" or "confirmation procedures". What's the point of that distinction? You're simply betraying your bias by pretending that physically changing a child from male to female, for instance, is "confirmation" rather than "reassignment".
When we start with a principle (parents have a right to make choices for their children) rather than picking a side in the fight, first, and then looking for a random principle to defend it later, we're much less susceptible to betraying our biases--and much more persuasive with those who disagree with us or might be undecided. For goodness' sake, it isn't necessary to believe in gender "confirmation" to oppose a law that interferes with parents from making choices about their children's welfare.
I'm sure there are people out there who advocate for letting doctors make qualitative choices for other people's children, oblivious to their parents' consent, and then wonder why people call them elitists.
Well said, Ken.
OT: Thanks for your recommendation/discussion of Starship Troopers, awhile back. Just read the book, the movie turned me off of reading it, not because its a bad movie per say but because it seemed to make for a poor book (stupid I know because many a good book have been used for movies with little to no relationship to the former). Anyway thoroughly enjoyed it.
I don't remember making the recommendation--and I don't want to take credit away from other people if they were the ones that recommended it to you--but I'm glad you enjoyed it!
It came up about in a discussion on alternatives to universal sufferage I believe.
That makes sense!
Ken Kesey must be spinning in his grave seeing a far right fascist like you us his book to spread your bullshit.
Change your name traitor!
Your posts don't make sense.
I think in their simple mind that a fan of Kesey's work can't like Heinlein's; I don't get it either though. I find it really funny being called a right winger since most of my "right wing" friends call me a hippy - which is more accurate at least in the early crop of hippies.
There is a reason that many og hippies left San Fran soon after the "summer of love" - as Bob Weir once said, "The Summer of Love was pretty much the death knell of what was happening, of the little renaissance that we had in San Francisco in the mid-1960s. If you ask anybody who lived in the Haight-Ashbury before the Summer of Love, they’ll all tell you the same thing.” KAR is/would have been one of those people forcing out really hippies who actually had employment, supported themselves and their community and just wanted to be left alone to do their thing.
I think Starship Troopers recently made the rounds on the cancel culture circuit as an example of fascist cinema, and what's his name may have been reacting to it as a function of you reading a banned book.
The religious fanatics of progressivism aren't so different from the Taliban or the Calvinists. The Calvinists of Geneva would come search your house for musical instruments, regardless of whether you were a member of their church, I believe.
You were just found guilty of having read a forbidden book. I bet you didn't even know you were considered a member of their progressive religious movement. Turns out you don't even have to join the church to be a heretic!
It’s heretics all the way down.
I was replying to "sometimes a great notion"
Nobody cares. You’re boring.
Hi KARen!
Hi pussy.
Hope you had a nice Easter!
Why aren't "anti-wokeness" and "big tech" working class issues? That's what families are talking about around the dinner table.
At least they're in the south and rural America. All over in America's shitholes husbands/brothers and wife's/sisters have to explain to their kids/nieces/nephews why the whacko big tech companies are forcing wokeness on them.
At least for America's uneducated and backwards working class these are important issues.
Only one asshole hit?
Have you noticed KAR sockmaster is trying to be a lefty version of you Sevo, when you tell the fifty-centers to fuck off? He's failing miserably, but I can definitely see who he wants to mimic.
Dude that's low. Even for a fascist like you.
Sevo is a senile old drunk fool. 90% of his comments are "steaming pile of TDS addled left shit" or something he copied from another commenter or heard at one of his loser 12 step meetings.
I admit my comments can be "non-enlightened" sometimes, but that's because I'm busy. I'm not gonna waste time making good arguments. You fascists will just play dumb, lie, or try to change the definition of words.
Where do I sign up for that Soros money? I call you mormon loving fascists out for free, but I wouldn't mind getting paid to do it?
Or you assholes just call me a sock. Anyone who disagrees with you must be a sock. The couple days I went by "KillAllMormons" or "Chuck's Magic Underwear" I made no attempt to hide who I was. I posted one comment as "Mothers Lament" and pointed out it was me.
I can't control what other commenters do, but I've never used another name to try and hide.
I also was "Sevo 12 step" or some variation of it.
Sevo just hit flag/refresh. You don't need to reply. Everyone already knows what a senile old rummy you are.
"Red States Seek Bans of Vaccine Passports Over Privacy & Constitutional Rights"
[...]
"(Headline USA) Vaccine passports being developed to verify COVID-19 immunization status and allow inoculated people to more freely travel, shop and dine have become the latest flash point in America’s perpetual political wars, with Republicans calling them a heavy-handed intrusion into personal freedom and private health choices.
They currently exist in only one state — a limited government partnership in New York with a private company — but that hasn’t stopped GOP lawmakers in a handful of states from rushing out legislative proposals to ban their use..."
https://headlineusa.com/red-states-seek-bans-of-vaccine-passports-over-privacy-constitutional-rights/
Good. Nip it in the bud.
Ever go to college? You had to show your vax 'passport' to be admitted.
Yeah, so?
And friends of mine still got meningitis so what's your point?
Microsoft has already formally proposed to expand a digital passports utility and make it "interoperable" with all your other personal information such as your medical information, bank account and credit history, etc.
Formalized social credit system, here we come!
Some odd opinions trading going on with MSFT today.
So another Orange Blossom talking point is shot down. The next one will be that little Johnny can't learn at home (even though the Orange love home skooling!)
In certain respects China is post-post Woke. They've been there done that during the Cultural Revolution. Now it's all they can do to keep from laughing at the Western Mod Squad.
https://twitter.com/wretchardthecat/status/1378919563484536833
Media Darling Doctor Says The Quiet Part Out Loud: Dangle Freedom As “Carrot” To Force Vaccinations.
https://thenationalpulse.com/breaking/use-freedom-as-carrot-to-force-vaccine/
Wen, speaking with disgraced anchor Chris Cuomo, said: “If everything is reopened, then what’s the carrot going to be? How are we going to incentivize people to actually get the vaccine?
“So that’s why I think the CDC and Biden administration needs to come out a lot bolder and say, “If you are vaccinated, you can do all these things. Here are all these freedoms you have.
“Because otherwise, people are going to go out and enjoy these freedoms anyway, and I fear a situation of coming into the Fall where we never reach herd immunity, and then we get hit by the next surge of COVID-19 in the fall. Something we could have prevented, if we just got people vaccinated now.”
Someone needs to learn what "unalienable" means.
My progressive lawyer friend not so politely informed me that it means any right that cant be taken away with due process. So apparently, only whatever passes for "due process" at the time the issue is raised.
She isnt dumb and went to a good law school, so she's probably right. However, it just adds to the reasons I have for having less respect for the judicial branch than I do for either the leg or exec.
Thomas and to a lesser extent Alito are the only scotuses that have a lick of sense or integrity.
“A new GOP political memo argues the party should embrace a working-class agenda, but nearly all of the issues highlighted (except trade policy) are cultural in nature: 1) immigration; 2) anti-wokeness; 3) Big Tech; 4) trade; 5) coronavirus lockdowns.”
Now that the GOP has largely abandoned culture war issues, I guess the left feels it's necessary to redefine culture war issues down.
Here's a list of real culture war issues:
Prayer in Public Schools
Abortion
Pornography
Gay Marriage
Intelligent Design
Relatively speaking, these issues have been all but abandoned by the GOP.
Meanwhile, "Big Tech" is as much a free speech issue as a culture war issue, and opposition to the coronavirus lockdowns isn't about culture at all. If progressives continue to push those issues as culture war issues, they'll lose that culture war for certain.
The theory that "Big Tech" and the corona lockdowns are culture war issues doesn't tell us anything about what's really happening and why, but it probably does tell us something about the people who believe it--which is that they tend to see everything in terms of a culture war.
You have to be completely in the bag for Team Proggy and just oblovious and clieless to think immigration and fbcking LOCK DOWNS arent economic issues for the working class.
Not everyone can file there stupid story/propaganda piece from home, and if therebarent customers coming in, you may not have a job. Stupid fvckin dilettantes
You're absolutely right about resistance to it primarily being about economics. Making it illegal to go to work transcends how we fell about other things. Gay atheists want to open their businesses and go back to work.
But I think this kind of thing is telling in that it gives us a window into the mentality of plenty of the people who supported the lockdowns. They simply supported the lockdowns because they thought Trump supporters opposed them.
Opposition to the lockdowns had little or nothing to do with the culture war, but TDS made the supporters of lockdowns insane. Plenty of them would support or oppose anything so long as they perceived Trump and his supporters of opposing it or supporting it.
Yes, sadly our entire Foreign Policy establishment now operates on the Let's Costanza Trump Policies Doctrine
just oblovious and clieless
The words you are looking for are bloviating and clitless.
Genital mutilation is just a cultural issue!
1) immigration; 2) anti-wokeness; 3) Big Tech; 4) trade; 5) coronavirus lockdowns.
Literally all of those are economic in nature, and trade and lockdowns are as explicitly economic as you can get with no cultural dimensions built in. What the hell?
Some of the anti-wokeness may be about people being afraid of losing their jobs over an old tweet or careless Facebook post. They're concerned about being blacklisted. Again, though, I think what we're seeing there is the way the progressive mind perceives things--rather than the way they really are. In the progressive mind, everything is a culture war.
Progressivism is very much a religious movement, and we should try to understand progressives in terms of religious fanaticism. In the minds of the prosecutors at the Salem witch trials, they weren't arbitrarily persecuting women on the basis of absurdly questionable testimony. They were protecting the community from evil.
Where you see normal people all around you, the progressive mind sees witches and warlocks. Our neocortex evolved hard wired for religious thinking, and even if the average progressive no longer believes in God, their neocortex is hard wired in the same state it's been in for all Homo Sapiens for the 150,000 years.
We periodically have these religious awakenings, and right now we're living through one of those. John Brown was a religious fanatic, and lots of average people cheered him on and saw him as a hero after he died. Anti-fa is a bunch of religious fanatics, too, and there are plenty of people cheering them on from the sidelines in their own way.
These kinds of statements reveal their mentality. They see everything in terms of good and evil, with woke taking the place of good and everything that isn't on board with being woke being evil. Some people are more pious than others, but they all seem to see everything in those good and evil terms to some extent.
Well, then there are the millionaire distinguished professors and authors who lecture poor white people making $13 an hour about their Priviledge and how it holds Joy Reed and Cornell West back. That is also registering on an economic level.
Do you think ENB ever reads these?
I have a working hypothesis to explain the way the affluent squander their excess in public on these things.
"The central idea is that sexually selected traits function like conspicuous consumption, signalling the ability to afford to squander a resource. Receivers then know that the signal indicates quality, because inferior quality signallers are unable to produce such wastefully extravagant signals."
----The Handicap Principle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handicap_principle
In this evolutionary, organisms demonstrate their superiority by making sacrifices no one who didn't have their wealth, so to speak, could afford to do--because that kind of superiority can't be faked.
By making a public display of sacrificing, say, their white privilege, the elitists are demonstrating the truly immense resources they possess. Because they can make a show of giving up this, that, or the other thing--and not even feel the loss because they're so wealthy. There's some old wisdom from the ancient world about that sort of thing.
"And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. 6But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly."
----Luke 11:5-6
Those guys, apparently, didn't have much to do, all day, but stand around and pray, so standing around and praying public all day may have been a way to signal their superiority. Making lots of sacrifices of expensive animals and other things publicly has been the same kind of thing in all sorts of religions. Look at me--I can afford this!
Toy dogs were like that. Originally, you had to be wealthy to keep an animal and feed it--despite the fact that it didn't lay eggs, give milk, etc. It was just an ostentatious display of being able to afford something other people couldn't.
I've read about tribal societies where the bigger the gift you give to visitors, the more prestige it brings. Roman aristocrats loved building temples and other monuments for the public. Ever seen a family member give something to the kids of another family member who could never afford such a thing--and see the poorer parents be pissed off about it? That's a nasty thing to do to a poor family in certain situations.
Anyway, yeah, I think that's what they're doing with their progressive religion of forced sacrifice. Those who willingly sacrifice and want the government to make them sacrifice their incomes, their lifestyle, their use of energy, their wealth etc. for a greater cause are considered pious in progressive religious thinking. Those of us who don't want to sacrifice to their gods are considered heathen, sinful, and evil.
John Kerry didn’t get this memo. Very interesting though, thanks.
“A new GOP political memo argues the party should embrace a working-class agenda, but nearly all of the issues highlighted (except trade policy) are cultural in nature: 1) immigration; 2) anti-wokeness; 3) Big Tech; 4) trade; 5) coronavirus lockdowns.”
You have to be pretty fucking deep into the woke culture to think these aren't working class issues but merely "cultural" issues. If I don't want to lose my job to an illegal immigrant, if I don't want to be told that my fear of losing my job to an illegal immigrant is a selfish, racist, xenophobic, hateful trait, if I think Big Tech is biased and partisan against people who don't buy into the globalist agenda, if I think China is a dangerous enemy of the US and we shouldn't be trading with the enemy, if I think the coronavirus lockdowns have crippled our economy and unfairly impacted small businesses while boosting big globalist businesses, I'm obviously deluded and responding to emotional issues as if they were serious real-world issues? FUCK. YOU. You're either an ignorant piece of shit or a lying piece of shit, but in either case making a piece of shit argument.
ENB is a clueless POS for passing this along with a hardy haw haw. She files her dispatches from home, all she does is glean talking points from Vox and The Atlantic, and repackage and regurgitate them. Then she orders delivery.
How could LOCKDOWNS possibly be an economic issue?
"You have to be pretty fucking deep into the woke culture to think these aren’t working class issues but merely “cultural” issues"
This needed to be highlighted again. That really was a "Let them eat cake" kind of tweet.
Why hasnt Obama been impeached yet?
Obama was a disciple of Rev Wright, and palled around with Louie Farrakhan. And if we have learnes anything, it means that if Black Supremacists like you, that makes you a dangerous Black Supremacist yourself.
And now, one of his followers has committed Insurrection and stormed the Capitol and killed a Capitol Cop.
Why isnt he impeached?
Someone has been conspicuously absent since a Capitol Cop was actually murdered.
Well, that sock has been absent. That someone may be putting in overtime as KAR since WK and SQRLSY are both completely discredited
Chimpy McBushHitler lied us into a war w/ Iraq and all has been forgiven.
The only thing people died from last year was the Communist Chinese Virus.
"All culture war, all the time (sighhhhhh)"
This is rich, coming from a lefty culture-warrior Amazon queen. Ever since Bustle declaring culture war against the normies has been ENB's stock in trade.
Call me a racist but aren't Amazon warrior queens supposed to be more olive-skinned and well-built?
These increases may indicate, to some extent, underreporting of COVID-19, ie, limited testing in the beginning of the pandemic may have resulted in underestimation of COVID-19 mortality.6 Increases in other leading causes, especially heart disease, Alzheimer disease, and diabetes, may also reflect disruptions in health care that hampered early detection and disease management.
Some of those increases also reflect that we still don't seem to be viewing Covid as anything but a respiratory disease. From everything I've read, it is a vascular disease with (mostly) respiratory transmission.
You have been reading crap.
Hey, don't take JFree's PANIC!!!!! flag from him; it's his total identity!
From everything I’ve read, it is a vascular disease with (mostly) respiratory transmission.
Maybe try a medical book.
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1379089849949511682?s=19
BREAKING: Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas finds social media companies do not have First Amendment right to ban protected speech and that Section 230 is unconstitutional
For similar reasons, some commentators have suggested that immunity provisions like §230 could potentially violate the First Amendment to the extent those provisions pre-empt state laws that protect speech from private censorship. See Volokh, Might Federal Preemption of SpeechProtective State Laws Violate the First Amendment? The Volokh Conspiracy, Reason, Jan. 23, 2021.
LOL! SQLFKR hardest hit.
Deranged copypasta blast in 3...2...1...
Happy easter Chuck! Your perv doesn't exist. Jesus hates you for worshipping a false god and perverts.
Thanks for your comment about someone you know drinking themselves to death. I hope it was a loved one of yours.
It made my weekend hearing about some pussy you KNEW(not know cuz they're dead) dying because the bitch couldn't handle their booze.
Must of been a huge pussy like you.
F/R
Though we don't exactly celebrate the resurrection, we do love us some Jesus. Now that some states are adopting our ways with multiple wives, and husbands too, we are gaining the strength to bring more worshipers to the light of the 144 thousand. Join us, KAR. Wives a plenty, magic lingerie and a 2 year hiatus from your self loathing while you enjoy your first mission. Spread the word brother!
I would have to call this 'support-slander'. It rivals the humble-brag in its level of disingenuousness. If its not KAR-jeffy sock-mocking himself to draw attention, some other other asshole picked up his fumble and ran the wrong way.
This is what happens when trolls don't get enough attention. They develop restless leg syndrome and just kick and kick and kick.
If I'm wrong about any of your church's beliefs Chuck please correct me.
I try to be fair.
Example I was watching a show called Fargo that took place in the 1950s and had a Mormon character. He started talking about blood atonement and I called BS because the LDS Church abandoned that around the time when they abandoned polygamy.
Some fundies still practice it.
Hi KARen!
So, you like to watch TV and “call bullshit” on the plots of fictional shows?
Haha. I can see it now. Getting all pissed about nothing. Too funny.
What a doosh.
Pointing out historical inaccuracies in tv shows or movies doesn't keep me from enjoying them.
Pussy
Haha. Says the guy who rants about genocide but does nothing about it.
Do it, pussy. Do it. What are you waiting for?
You’re a fucking joke, dude. Go stew in your incel anger. Haha.
I fucking hate mormons but I try to be fair. The LDS Church is super anti-polygamy because they're ashamed of their history.
If three or more consenting adults wanna fuck and call it marriage whatever...
Also mormons consider themselves Christians and believe in most mainstream protestant christian beliefs(not the trinity, but I could be wrong).
The reason Jesus hates them is because their con artist, pervert founder made up a bunch of patently false nonsense about Jesus in America, Native Americans coming from Israel, and Nephite nonsense.
...and kick and kick.
and just kick and kick and kick.
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…and kick and kick.
You wouldn't reply if you didn't read them.
Hi KARen!
Hope you had a nice Easter pussy!
Haha. Hope you get the sand out of your pussy before you go beserk, loser.
https://twitter.com/cliftonaduncan/status/1379067758336475140?s=19
"You have an immune system" is now a Far Right talking point
Everything is racist and everyone is literally Hitler
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1379082946666246147?s=19
A crazed follower of the Nation of Islam hit the US Capitol in a vehicular terror attack that killed a Capitol Police Officer
The media already stopped talking about it completely
It was 3 days ago
Local story. The Nation of Islam has no history of support for insurrections against government institutions or been labeled a hate group by the SPLC.
We cannot let this distract us from the Jan 6 insurrection by white supremacists who beat Officer Sicknick to death with a fire extinguisher loaded with bear spray. Domestic terrorism is on the rise!
Gotta support your fascist pals Chuck!
a fire extinguisher loaded with bear spray
You do realize that virtually every one of those insurrectionists owns a car, right? *shudders*
https://twitter.com/EricMMatheny/status/1379080105742467072?s=19
The Left is going to expand “anti-Asian hate” to include any criticism of the Chinese government. Who do you think is propping up this narrative? The Chinese Communists know how powerful accusations of racism are at silencing opposition.
Yellen is griping that other countries are out-competing the US:
"U.S. Treasury's Yellen calls for global minimum corporate tax"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/us-treasurys-yellen-calls-for-global-minimum-corporate-tax/ar-BB1fjXUG?ocid=uxbndlbing
Somehow, I have a feeling she'll be getting a one-finger 'answer' from several places.
HA HA!
https://twitter.com/sairasameerarao/status/1378778317415940101?s=19
If you are white and your Black and brown friends are not regularly challenging your whiteness, chances are they don't trust you and are absolutely talking about your whiteness.
Just not to you.
I have to wonder if it's ever occurred to her how few of her friends talk to her about what a retarded cunt she is and what that must imply.
lulz
Or maybe it isn’t a problem for them, and it’s racist for you assume it would be.
If you are white and your Black and brown friends are not regularly challenging your whiteness, chances are they don’t trust you and are absolutely talking about your whiteness.
As long as they aren't spewing grotesque, divisive rhetoric like "And some of them, I assume, are good people."
It's also worth noting that another category of so-called deaths of despair—drug overdose deaths—did increase significantly in 2020.
Did it ever occur to ENB that the increase probably includes deliberate overdoses? i.e., suicides?
Did it ever occur to ENB that the increase probably includes deliberate overdoses?
She has become comfortably numb to such speculation.
Did it ever occur to you shitbirds that you have no evidence any were deliberate ODs?
It's understandable Chuck would think that because he's stupid and supports the war on drugs.
Your stupid is showing.
Your dick is tiny.
Check mate!
You certainly know about tiny dicks because you see them all the time, you hicklib faggot. It's called a mirror.
It could be said that KillAllRednecks is the biggest dick here, but there are several other contenders.
Haha. No. He’s a pussy. All talk.
Did it ever occur to you shitbirds that you have no evidence any were deliberate ODs?
She slipped and fell on that heroin needle!
One more step towards global governance:
Janet Yellen to call for global minimum tax rate
U.N. sanctions against tax havens? The Chinese are creaming in their bootleg jeans.
Greedy mormons
https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1379075534915784710?s=19
Where the PsyOps worked, where it didn't, and where it backfired completely. Lol BlueAnon
Lying about Desantis will help.
I don't think it's especially small...
https://twitter.com/ActNormalOrElse/status/1379044386395320325?s=19
there is a small but loud and absolutely real subset of people who don't want the pandemic to end because they like being the best at following The Rules
And they are “working” from home in their jammies.
Welcome to the matriarchy. Females outperform males all throughout the education system from kindergarten to graduate school, because it's entirely about following the rules and not rocking the boat. Meanwhile, its been this way for 40 years at least and theyre still caterwauling about lack of representation in the more prestigious areas of society.
Concerned about the possibly illegal contents in some safe deposit boxes at Beverly Hills-based U.S. Private Vaults, the FBI and Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) raided the whole place and seized the contents of every safe deposit box there.
Is this a prelude to seizing entire banks because one customer's bank account is suspected of being tied to some criminal activity?
It is a prelude to warrantless police scrutiny of any activity that involves a transaction with a 2nd party. All that rubber-stamping has led to too many cases of carpal-tunnel syndrome for judges.
Masturbation will soon be the only natural right.
If you have a permit.
Doesn't your church prohibit masturbation?
Ironic considering it's founder and early "prophets, seerers, and revelators" were pervs.
Hope you had a happy Easter.
Jesus hates your church.
Pop-up vid is reporting world-wide Wu Flu deaths at 2.7M, out of a world population of 7.6B.
It appears that we've shut down a good bit of the world's economy over something causing death to .0003 of the world's population; a rounding error.
Everytime I see a covid story I know that the writers here will be shrieking about it. Never have I seen such terror but I am less surprised when I realize the most terrified are under 40 (who have the least risk) while the strongest are those over 50 (who have the most risk.)
The helicopter parent safe space kids are gonna be running this place one day. And they voted for feeble Biden and psycho Harris.
https://twitter.com/D_B_Harrison/status/1378888397431865344?s=19
The “soul of America” is not on trial, Derek Chauvin is. A true desire for ‘justice’ should be content to allow objective facts (truth) to determine the outcome. That the outcome of this trial may not be what you desire doesn’t mean there was injustice.
The “soul of America” is not on trial, Derek Chauvin is.
OJ who?
Gender Confirmation Procedures? Gender CONFIRMATION?
Wow, this place has gone full-blown Ministry of Truth. No longer leaning in, just full on embraced it
Portland school postpones vote on changing mascot to ‘Evergreens’ over racism concerns
A Portland high school has postponed changing its mascot to an evergreen tree after a committee member raised concerns about its possible connotations to lynching.
Ida B. Wells-Barnett High School adopted its namesake earlier this year after the Pulitzer Prize-winning African American journalist who extensively documented lynching at the turn of the 20th century, the Portland Tribune reported.
A committee comprising students, staff, and community members suggested the school adopt the Evergreens as a new mascot.
In explaining the reason for choosing this new mascot, Ellen Whatmore, a teacher, and mascot committee member said the evergreens "are characterized by the life-giving force of their foliage, the strength of their massive trunk, and the depth of their roots—in an individual tree and as a forest of trees."
The Portland Public Schools Board of Education was set to vote on the new mascot last Tuesday. But Director Michelle DePass raised concerns about the tree’s possible connotations with lynching in the early 20th century.
SF SCHOOL OFFICIAL CRITICIZED FOR TWEETING RACIAL SLUR, ACCUSING ASIANS OF USING 'WHITE SUPREMACIST THINKING'
"I’m wondering if there was any concern with the imagery there, in using a tree … as our mascot?" DePass asked the renaming and mascot committee last week, according to the Portland Tribune. "I think everyone comes with blind spots and I think that might’ve been a really big blind spot."
Committee member Martin Osborne told the school board last week that the evergreen was meant to symbolize "a tree of life" more than "a tree of death," and that it "nothing to do with the horrible history of lynching in the United States."
School Principal Filip Hristic said Wells-Barnett’s family had been supportive of the school honoring her legacy, but no discussion was had with them about the mascot.
The board has postponed voting on the mascot until its next meeting. Fox News has reached out to DePass and Ida B. Wells-Barnett High School seeking comment.
Evergreen trees would be a poor choice for a lynching. Oak trees have stronger limbs.
An evergreen branch can't even hold a cat, much less a person.
Nuke it from orbit.
Wells high(formally Wilson high) is in SW which is probably the whitest part of Portland.
They should changed the name of Jefferson or Roosevelt (or not change names at all).
So sad to see this.
http://www.maharojgar.in/
pobre DMX.
ENB: All culture war, all the time (sighhhhhh):
1) immigration; 2) anti-wokeness; 3) Big Tech; 4) trade; 5) coronavirus lockdowns
How partisan and blinkered do you have to be to not see that these ARE working class issues?
Anti-immigration has always been, and still is, the position of blue collar union workers. Wage competition for lower-skilled jobs directly affects the lower middle class.
"Trade" is somehow a culture ware issue? WTF?
Coronovirus lockdowns are if anything the biggest working class issue of all time! "lockdown" == "not working". How dumb do you have to be to not see that?
I'll give it to her on "anti-wokeness". It is definitely a cultural issue but in their defense, the working class has no time for wokeness so it's clearly smart to put it on the agenda for attracting the working class.
What's particularly ironic is that these type of issues are why the neocons ultimately got rejected by the GOP base--because they autistically focused on economic issues at the expense of culture issues, going back to the Contract With America. For those types, culture issues are forever not a hill worth defending.
They're betraying a real worry that GOP voters will support both anti-trust actions and high corporate tax rates against the Chamber of Commerce and global megacorps in retaliation for siding with the Democrats in 2020.
It is definitely a cultural issue but in their defense, the working class has no time for wokeness so it’s clearly smart to put it on the agenda for attracting the working class.
Disagree. Dorsey, Bezos, and Zuckerberg don't have to worry about under-qualified women taking their promotions for diversity reasons. Yellen, Psaki, and Pelosi don't have to worry about chicks with dicks showing up in their private restrooms let alone cleaning up after them. Reason itself has repeatedly highlighted how the Title IX allegations are disproportionately leveled at a certain class of people. Nobody's suing Amazon because they won't deliver a pizza to their gay wedding.
Gender-specific bathroom issues affect everyone and are critical to equity, can't play basketball or sell Apple products without them, even in a tiny corner of the country; but policies that definitively impact larger and less overtly political/socialist groups disproportionately can be safely discarded in the circular bin labeled "GOP Cultural Issues".
I confess I was wrong on this one. I thought suicides would increase.
OTOH, at least some news stories have suggested that teenage suicides are up. (I haven't seen official statistics for that yet, but if it is, that would be an interesting difference).
It's a statistical fallacy. ENB is both cherry-picking and Texas sharpshooting to get to her conclusion. There are dozens of other studies showing 'deaths of despair' as a consistent metric over decades is/was up. Moreover, for over a decade, 'suicide' has been replaced with 'deaths of despair' as not every suicide requires a clear motive and not everyone who shoots themselves, drinks themselves to death, or ODs leaves a suicide note. It's not like the GOP instituted lockdowns or the ACA and then changed the census to ensure deaths of despair or the percentage of the insured population gets counted differently.
There may be a case to say that 'deaths from despair' artificially inflates the numbers, but ENB isn't making that argument and is simply saying we should choose metrics arbitrarily or even specifically to discount the data that refutes her narrative.
Shut up you racist traitior
Oh now I get it! The first time you posted it I was confused, but now I get it! You want me to kill myself! Thanks for posting it again!
(That's sarcasm you dumb fascist, racist traitor)
I take it as a compliment that a racist, bigoted, America hating fascist piece of shit like you doesn't like me.
If I'm ever feeling low I just remind myself that traitors like you and red rocks despise me.
Traitor
I for sure shouldn't argue with you. You just lie all the time so it's pointless. You're also an unrepent bigot, racist, and traitor.
Traitor
*unrepentant
9 more asshole flags!
If you unmask your email, you hicklib faggot, I can come by with some rent money for the space I'm occupying in your AIDS-addled skull.
Sevo just hit flag refresh. I already know what a senile old fool you're. No need for you to shit up the thread.
Now I'm shitting it up by replying to you...
4 more asshole hits!
Your REAL ADDRESS...
Traitor
I gave it to you, you hicklib faggot. Why are you so afraid of unmasking your email if you think you can easily stab someone in the left temple when you meet them?
Or do you just talk tough because you think you won't ever have to run into these people in reality? Wouldn't you WANT to give them the opportunity to show up on your doorstep and save you the money on travel expenses?
You don't live at an islamic center.
Says you, you hicklib faggot. Why not come visit and find out?
If I'm ever in Colorado I'll let you know.
If you come to the NW let me know.
Traitor
I already gave you the address, you hicklib faggot, so all you need to do is show up.
Unmask your email like you promised and you can have the chance to cash that check your mouth wrote.
Either way, you don't have anything to lose, do you?
You never gave me the address where you reside.
Quit backing out of the deal pussy!
You won't know if I reside there until you show up, you hicklib faggot.
Or just unmask your email like you promised and save yourself the cost of the ticket and hotel room.