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The CDC Says Vaccinated People Can Safely Travel, But Please Don't

More mixed messages from CDC Director Rochelle Walensky.

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The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has announced that vaccinated people are extremely unlikely to spread COVID-19 to others, and thus can safely travel with minimal risk.

But also, it's theoretically possible for the vaccinated to infect others, and people still shouldn't travel, according to…the CDC.

Confused? Blame CDC Director Rochelle Walensky, who constantly delivers good news about the amazing efficacy of the vaccines and then undercuts this seconds later by asserting that the fully vaccinated should continue to wear masks, socially distance, and avoid travel if they can.

At a public briefing on Friday, Walensky said that vaccinated people "can resume travel at low risk to themselves." She even conceded that the vaccinated do not need to take COVID-19 tests or quarantine after travel.

"Fully vaccinated grandparents can fly to visit their healthy grandkids without getting a COVID-19 test or self-quarantining, provided they follow the other recommended prevention measures while traveling," she said.

But just because vaccinated folks can travel doesn't mean they should travel.

"While we believe that fully vaccinated people can travel at low risk to themselves, CDC is not recommending travel at this time due to the rising number of cases," said Walensky.

This may sound contradictory, but it's standard fare for the CDC, which doesn't want people to do anything that carries even a slight of risk of harm. Indeed, Walensky admitted earlier this week that all available evidence suggests "vaccinated people do not carry the virus" at all, meaning the risk of transmission from the vaccinated to the unvaccinated is likely quite low. Fearful that this terrific news might make people less cautious, the CDC immediately walked back the guidance.

"Dr. Walensky spoke broadly during this interview," a panicked CDC spokesperson told The New York Times. "It's possible that some people who are fully vaccinated could get Covid-19. The evidence isn't clear whether they can spread the virus to others. We are continuing to evaluate the evidence."

To close off the possibility that someone, somewhere might conclude that vaccination is good because it offers a ticket back to normality, the Times story added quotes from other alarmist health officials:

"There cannot be any daylight between what the research shows — really impressive but incomplete protection — and how it is described," said Dr. Peter Bach, director of the Center for Health Policy and Outcomes at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center in New York.

"This opens the door to the skeptics who think the government is sugarcoating the science," Dr. Bach said, "and completely undermines any remaining argument why people should keep wearing masks after being vaccinated."

That door is open, and it's because of the science. There is little reason to think that people who are fully vaccinated do need to continue wearing masks in most circumstances: Given that COVID-19 does not spread easily outdoors, and it likely doesn't spread from the vaccinated to the unvaccinated except in rare cases, health officials could just admit that post-vaccination outdoor–mask wearing is safety theater.

They never will. At best, experts will admit the science shows virtually no transmission between unmasked, vaccinated people who congregate outdoors—but still insist that everyone follows all the same mitigation protocols. It's not the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, it's just the Center for Control.

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  1. People have been traveling, for quite some time. Maybe not at pre pandemic levels or always for pleasure. The CDC is caught in that reality distortion bubble in DC that makes Biden repeat lies so often he’s gotten bottomless pinocchios from even the WaPo.

    They are preparing you for carrying papers that allow you to travel only if they say so. The no fly list will be expanded such that it will become an allow fly list. State borders may turn away people without proper papers. Note none of this will apply to the oligarchy or aristocracy and their bootlickers in the media.

    They finally found a way to keep America locked down and they will implement it. The only bulwark now are good people who refuse to cooperate, and a reconstituted GOP that shuffles off the old neocon crowd

    1. buckleup, I was one of them = people who traveled. I made several trips to see my parent in another state (8-hour drive). I started doing that in June, and went every 6 weeks after the initial trip down. I read what the CDC put out, applied my own brainpower and reasoning, and made a perfectly rational (and correct) choice.

      Government will treat us like toddlers. Fuck that.

      1. Yep, went to the Midwest and Mexico twice. No problems. Ate potato chips real slow on the plane, so minimal mask wearing.

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    2. My wife and I are both vaccinated [got mine in Dec/Jan; I work in health care] and travelled to Florida and back week before last.

      Still wear a mask in public places as I expect they will either tell you to leave or call the cops on you.

      And I personally go not give a flying fuck what anyone at the CDC, or any other government agency, thinks anyway.

    3. The only way out of this is to get rid of the democrats. Better a million democrats perish, than one American patriot’s rights are infringed.

    4. Inbred redneck fucktards don’t travel by plane anyway.

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  2. Public Health is supposed to include sociological/psychological factors. We are almost to the point where we have enough vaccine for everyone. In terms of COVID response, people taking the vaccine is far more important than vaccinated people not traveling.

    On a somewhat irrelevant note: thanks to influenza getting stomped this year, the % of deaths due to pnumonia, influenza, and COVID, is now within seasonal norms in some parts of the country. Nationally, if COVID deaths drop in half, we will be at seasonal norms, in terms of deaths due to infectious disease.

  3. This is fucking insane. No one should be listening to these people.

    And what is this “rising number of cases” I keep hearing about? I don’t see it in the official numbers. I mean, there is a slight increase in the past week or so, but it still seems to be following a steady decline overall. One of the most idiotic things about all of this has been the incredibly short view people take. It’s all just reaction to the latest numbers. If they go up we need to be scared. If they go down we need to be cautious. If we did need a policy for this, then it needed to take a long term view of things. And get rid of this notion that we need to prevent every infection we possibly can. That idea should have been tossed out over a year ago when it was clear that containment was not an option.

    1. Visible signs of compliance are very comforting to people in power. Wearing the mask means you listen to them and go along, which is what really matters.
      It might even help a little.

    2. No, no. This is totally on point. I’m going to stop traveling. And I’m going to encourage all of my fellow truck drivers to stop traveling as well. I mean, sure, people might be slightly inconvenienced by the lack of food and fuel and medical supplies, but that’s a small price to pay for avoiding Covid.

      1. Yes, everyone should just stay home and have food delivered.

  4. ” . . . due to the rising number of cases . . . ”

    Say what?

    The CDC has become the government New York Times; a thing not worth listening to.

    1. March 3, 2021 – new cases 68,597 Deaths 2035
      April 2, 2012 – new cases 61,629 Deaths 915

      Source is the Covid-19 Tracker on statnews.com

      I think there is a much higher risk of being lied to by a government official than getting Covid-19 after you have been vaccinated.

    2. Well I mean, if there is 1 new case (transmission) that didn’t exist yesterday, that’s a “rising number of cases.” Of course, that means cases will always either be flat (zero new cases today) or rising (+1 or more) so we are now trapped forever in a Covid-transmission loop.

  5. The State is still desperately trying to walk the tightrope: giving the appearance of solving the Covid problem, but in a way which allows the State to keep it’s “emergency” powers.

  6. So not yet 100% risk-free yet? Another generation or so?

    1. Never

  7. STOP LISTENING TO THE CDC. They have demonstrably lied to, misconstrued and mislead the public on multiple occasions. If your spouse treated you this way, you would divorce them no matter how much they claim to love you. Integrity and trust are earned, not conferred merely by being appointed by someone who won a fundraising and popularity contest. If your default position is to believe what the government tells you, you shouldn’t be calling yourself a libertarian.

    1. The CDC still claims that masks are effective in stopping the spread of the virus. If that’s so, how do these left-wing bureaucrats explain why every state that has rescinded its mask mandate is doing better since then? Shouldn’t it be the other way around?

      1. Because in the beginning they also told everyone that masks do nothing. Remember the great panic in March 2020 where people were madly buying anything mask shaped and the government tried to stop the panic by reassuring people that masks did little to nothing to prevent transmission?

        What a year it’s been.

  8. No problem, I’ll just hang out in the packed bars near my home.

    1. The alcohol should kill it anyway right?

      1. Should; It’s why I don’t have worms.

  9. There is always going to be some level of transmission. This is not going to go away. As more people are vaccinated it will be more under control.

    The adults in my family all have at least first dose in now so that is good.

    I wonder what will eventually happen with the children with this. Yes they have little chance of getting sick but the darlings do carry it around. They keep sending home kids from the second graders school because one of them tests positive.

    1. Because science!

    2. You fool. You’re probably too young to remember NO ONE ever went outside, ate in a restaurant or hugged a family member until smallpox was successfully eradicated in 1980. And then next thing you knew people were dropping like flies because of AIDS. Lesson learned!

    3. Stop testing kids. And for the love of God, stop putting masks on them. This whole episode has probably had the worst effects on children. Fortunately, they are resilient. But they are also being formed into the people they will be as adults and I really worry about the things they are being trained to see as normal now, and the long lasting psychological effects of social isolation at that age.

      1. The local mall has an attraction for small children, the entrance of which is themed like an airport security line.

        https://imgur.com/9nAJKR9

        Not having any children of my own I’ve never had a reason to go too near to it but even if I did the idea of my kids learning to enjoy being harassed and molested by state goons as a form of play makes me vomit in my mouth.

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    1. Made me laugh.

    2. Did Robbie get caught being banged by a 16 year old guy?

  11. It’s almost like the cdc is run by polititions who want to expand their power

  12. “Looks like we got this thing licked, but by all means stay afraid! Never stop being afraid!”

    1. I picture Tony screaming that in a bathhouse using a very flamboyant inflection.

  13. We’ll she already said we are all doomed, so what’s it matter. I say smoke ’em if you got ’em.

  14. Round trip from Iowa to Honolulu – $383 in February. Spent the week sleeping on my kids couch. Plane was 1/4-1/3 full each way. Did have to take a test but I managed to pass that. They are not wearing masks on the beaches. Did have to wear one on the plane though.

  15. There was no freaking airline travel during the Spanish flu epidemic. Remember that. We all forget that so quickly.

    1. People who refused to wear masks were shamed instead of encouraged by politicians.

      1. It’s strange to see a shameless deviant Sodomitic pederast, such as yourself, who gets serially barebacked on a typical Friday night, talk about shaming others for not following scientifically discredited suggestions from politically motivated leftists.

  16. Anyonte who pays ANY attention to Fauci and his goons should not allowed with sharp objects. Why would you ever listen to anyone who cannot read a dual axis chart?

  17. Got my first shot today. So close to returning to normal human interaction I can practically taste the orgies.

    1. …land then you will need some more shots. Diseased sodomite.

      1. Did you diligently wear your mask, or were you a bug-chasing faggot like all the other Republicans?

    2. You actually need friends to have normal human interaction. Waste of a dose.

  18. Thee are people dying every day because the CDC and Fauci refuse to admit, despite extensive real world evidence, that past infection confers future immunity, so we are wasting vaccines on people who are already protected. They have blood on their hands. This cannot be repeated enough.

    1. *There*

    2. Past infection may provide some immunity, but not vaccine-level immunity. It depends on how much virus you got in you.

      Maybe we could have made this more complex and targeted, but we have a major crisis to deal with fast, and a political faction hell-beint on getting as many people infected as possible. (That was actually the policy of the Trump administration. Is there blood on their hands?). As it stands the US is going to have a surplus as it waits around for the rest of the world to catch up.

      1. Idiot.

      2. Are you really as dumb as you sound?

  19. They are literally saying “We don’t want to be honest about the science because the science doesn’t support our preferred message.” This from the people constantly beating the “follow the science” drum.

  20. What the knuckleneads are REALLY saying is they dont believe the vaccine actually works, to either prevent spred or prevent contracting it.

    My own state is advising “vaccinated or not, please mask up”, again, proof that one or the other (mug nappies OR the jab) or perhaps even both (the truth, actually) don’t work as advetised.

    Whatever happened to an informed citizenry making their own life and health decisioins based on their own needs and situation? Or do they REALLY believe we are a bunch of kinnygardner kiddies who need our hands held throughout our lives? If the latte,r they are VERY much mistaken.

    1. Yes, they believe that.

  21. She sounds selfish to me. I live in a US tourist area. There are thousands of people in the travel industry who have NOT been paid for a year. What about THEIR families?

    This bureaucrat has been paid and still is. A very large salary. No problem for HER or her family.

    Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)

    1. Yeah, that has appalled me from the beginning of this whole mess. All those people who work for the government, big companies of get nice pensions insisting that we stay shutdown indefinitely. They didn’t give a damn about the catastrophe inflicted on business owners and other workers!

      Remember all the ” we are in this together BS”. Easy to say when you have a secure paycheck.

  22. Yep, the Center for Control and Prevention (CCP)

  23. Follow the science for crying out loud! I saw it heading to D.C. a few years ago. It’s in congress as I write.

  24. I think this is embarrassment on the part of the CDC. Last year they seemed surprised that a SAR virus came from China. And given that “Prevention” is in their name they failed miserably at their job. So now they justify their failure by making it seem like a disaster unknown to civilization.
    Next time maybe focus on the people over 70 cause just like the annual flu they tend to die from it.

  25. It’s unbelievable how much she is willing to nakedly ignore science for obvious lies, fear-mongering and appeals to authority. I get the impression from her that she isn’t even trying to hide her reliance on fear, emotion & authoritarianism.

  26. The CDC and the Biden administration bumble and stumble their way through every press interview with the lies and misinformation piling up quickly. Why is there no count of Biden lies?

  27. Still there is a large number of people are not covering under corona vaccination program. Appropriate news and information regarding coronavirus should be implemented. I have been working at http://flirtymania.com/ and help people with webcam chatting across the world. I hope this terrible coronavirus pandemic situation will be eliminated soon.

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