Dr. Seuss Is Canceled
President Biden did not mention the famed author in his Read Across America Day speech.

The cancel culture bells have tolled for Dr. Seuss, the beloved author of children's books like Green Eggs and Ham, How the Grinch Stole Christmas, and Oh, the Places You'll Go.
President Biden declined to mention Dr. Seuss, the pen name of Theodor Seuss Geisel, in his kickoff speech for Read Across America Day, a national event that promotes literacy and is historically connected with Dr. Seuss. (It even takes place on the author's birthday.)
While the Biden administration got the #DrSeussIsOverParty started, it's Seuss' own publisher who's really taking things to the next level. Dr. Seuss Enterprises announced that it would cease printing six books that contain vaguely racist imagery: And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street, McElligot's Pool, On Beyond Zebra!, If I Ran the Zoo, Scrambled Eggs Super!, and The Cat's Quizzer.
The books are currently unavailable on Amazon.
This is not the first time Dr. Seuss has come under fire: In 2017, a librarian criticized First Lady Melania Trump's donation of Seuss books, which are "steeped in racist propaganda, caricatures, and harmful stereotypes." This year, Loudon County schools in Virginia ordered librarians to stop mentioning Dr. Seuss, citing a study that found there were few racial minority characters in his books. (Most Seuss characters aren't even human.)
It's true that Dr. Seuss is a more complicated figure than he first appears. Some of his oldest books do contain problematic illustrations of black and Asian characters. He harbored anti-Japanese sentiments during World War II and produced several cartoons that could be seen as defending U.S. internment camps. But like many people, Dr. Seuss changed his views over time, and he also published cartoons that were clearly anti-racist.
Indeed, Dr. Seuss's most famous books tend to promote liberal and anti-authoritarian messages. The best-known example is probably The Lorax, a save-the-environment parable, but it's hardly the only one. The Butter Battle Book is a Cold War satire, and the eponymous villain of Yertle the Turtle is meant to echo the rise and fall of Adolph Hitler.
Nobody has to read Dr. Seuss if they don't want to. But it's worth remembering that his books were so popular with children in large part because of the crazy stories and funny pictures. Learning to read was very boring until The Cat in the Hat and Green Eggs and Ham came along in the 1950s. Problematizing everything that's different, weird, or uncomfortable won't get us any place worth exclaiming over.
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stop mentioning Dr. Seuss, citing a study that found there were few racial minority characters in his books.
Hmm. Robby, are there enough racial minority characters in this post?
Yes there are - but you can't see them because they're invisible to RACISTS!
Man, I loved On Beyond Zebra as a kid.
It was pretty racist against High Gargel-orums though.
Too bad you didn't learn the message of that book.
Pretty cool of you to admit that he didn't learn to be racist.
What? That there are letters beyond Z?
Chemleft never won't be retarded.
"What? That there are letters beyond Z?"
This stopped being a problem once Unicode came along and we stopped trying to squeeze the many alphabets of human languages into a one-byte-per-character round hole.
Pretty much everything that is not explicitly pro BIPOC is cancelled, or soon will be.
Any author with a questionable publication or statement, at any time in history, is suspect.
So how do you like our culture now?
When your universities become censorious anti-educational institutions, then there's no sense in having universities and they should be replaced with institutions that will educate.
What's the difference between POC and BIPOC or are both terms interchangable?
"POC" was created to include everyone but whitey, thereby strengthening the non-white coalition. Then, as mental retardation, much like entropy, can only increase, people thought that some POC, like East Asians, were too white, which diminished the really "colorful" people. So, "black" and "indigenous" were taken out of "POC," and made super-people of color, and given precedence over the merely partially colorful, and "BIPOC" was born.
Thank you, oh gassy one.
He/she smells of great wisdom.
Race is a biological myth.
But, culture is not.
Culture is not fixed. It changes. Look at anything you can define as culture and it is not the same as it was 100 years ago.
But racism isn’t.
Walk through the ghetto with that printed on a cheeseboard and see how warm a reception you get.
Race is a biological reality, unless you get your scientisming from I Fucking Love Science and Voxsplainer crowd. They have redefined race to mean something that it never has, and then denied that definition.
Of course the actual races are different from the races you imagine.
Genetically there are the Southern African Hunter Gatherers (e.g. San), the Central African Foragers (e.g. Mbuti), the West Africans (e.g. Ibo), and finally the Eurasians (e.g. Australian Aboriginals, Frenchmen, Navajo, Han Chinese, Arabs).
The Southern African Hunter Gatherers split off from the rest of us the earliest, at 250,000 years ago, although there was continuous mixing events since.
It is a social construct not a biological one.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/race-is-a-social-construct-scientists-argue/
I don't know where you went to medical school, but you should sue them to get your money back.
-jcr
Amen.
That article was hot critical-theory-based garbage that redefined the word and then claimed it didn't exist because no pure race exists.
In the dance with words in that article, Svante Pääbo (admittedly brilliant and I've talked with him before), who definitely knows which side his grant bread is buttered on went so far as to give the actual definition of race as a weasely alternative to races:
"Pääbo told Live Science. "It is all a question of differences in how frequent different variants are on different continents and in different regions."
FFS, that's exactly what the word "race" means.
The whole thing is a misbegotten fiddley attempt to decry racism by fucking around with the meaning of words.
Tell that to those who would eliminate Jews and Blacks. Half the population is striving for more acceptance and half is striving for less. At least when Democrats screw up and go overboard (and I definitely think they do) it's done with the intent of being more inclusive. Republicans would rather have it the other way around. Twisting fact to suit reality didn't work when Evangelicals used the Bible to legitimize slavery and it won't now. The disingenuousness on the right is on full display when they point out that it was the Democratic Party that fostered slavery (we all know the Parties of Lincoln and Davis switched positions), yet oppose the removal of the memorials to the traitors Lincoln fought against. It's the shocking duplicity of the right that gives it all away.
Evangelicals used the Bible to legitimize slavery and it won’t now.
The entire abolitionist movement was started and run by evangelicals you historically ignorant idiot.
William Wilberforce, John Brown, Charles Finney, Theodore Weld, Harriet Beecher Stowe, Sojourner Truth, George B. Cheever, Harriet Tubman, Theodore S. Wright, William Lloyd Garrison, Arthur Tappan. Frederick Douglass and pretty much the entire membership roll of the American Anti-Slavery Society were evangelicals.
Read and learn, you ignorant tit:
https://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/tserve/nineteen/nkeyinfo/amabrel.htm
What about the sexually inclusive ones?
Wouldn't they be BI-BIPoC??
BIPOC is the accepted term today. POC IS WHAT RACISTS USE!
Bee-pok
2PAC?
Kamala Harris's favorite living rapper!
While we are talking about BI/POC grievances, why aren’t dark skinned Europeans included?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_14,_1891_New_Orleans_lynchings
POC is diluted by white Hispanics, (((MENA))) and high caste South Asians. They up and let in every non-Euro cracker except the Ainu.
I knew several Hispanic Americans in college who were in fact whiter than me, and from wealthier families (surgeons, lawyers). But were milking the Hispanic thing for all it was worth. Maybe this is what pisses off the BIPOC people. Before long, they’ll be turning down applicants who look too white.
Shaun King is whiter than me, and my ancestry is Irish.
Shaun King, AKA "Talcum X"
Hilarious, I just looked that up. I didn't know both his parents are white.
The great Andrew Shultz created Talcum X
Fox News killed the Talcum X backstory:
As the offspring of Carter Talcum Burden and Sophy Tucker Calcium, he is widely believed to be the biological father of Tucker Carlson
I had a bad case of BIPOC once. They have a topical ointment for that now.
If I'm white and only date white women does that make me racist? I also don't date gays; does that make me a bigot?
Totally.
I had to face the fact myself not too long ago.
Caused me 5 seconds of painful reflection let me tell you.
What the fuck is "BIPOC"?
I've already cancelled myself. The world is moving on and I ain't going.
"I’ve already cancelled myself."
God if only.
Right back at ya, buddy.
Much to your credit.
Seriously, we've become two countries. Might as well make it formal.
BIPOCs be people who done fuck mens and womens.
The whole notion of "Cancel Culture" is a right wing attempt at deflecting. The publisher can print anything that it wants. The public can opt to buy or not buy any book it publishes. Either the free market will determine what is/ isn't viable or nothing will. No one is stopping anyone or anything.
Josh Hawley crying about his first amendment rights being violated by his publisher dropping him is another weak, silly argument from a "free market" capitalist who decides to cry foul when it doesn't work his way. He knows factually this is not a first amendment case- the government is not telling him what to say or do. Yet by claiming it is it dilutes an important right we have. The government has not ordered Simon and Schuster to drop him. He is nothing but a whiny little bitch.
Actions in the free markets have free market consequences. Those who offer something people want will succeed those who don't wont. The gripe here is over what the market is asking for. When it doesn't demand stupid right-wing shit, the right wing blames the lack of demand on "cancel culture". Offer up something that reasonable people want and they will ask for it, but you can't order companies to violate their own decisions when you don't like something. That's petulance. I realize we are just through four years of petulance at the highest levels of government and it seems to the less educated, more emotionally driven, fragile, scaredy-cats on the right that bitching about something makes it true, especially when it's said over and over and over and over and over and over and over. But that's just noisier noise and nothing more. It remains untrue despite the insistence to the contrary. Get over yourselves.
The law permits many things that are unethical.
"No one is stopping anyone or anything."? Where are you getting this crap?
Thanks for saying all of this. It is strange to think of people reading something called Reason or writing for it that are this...unreasonable and hysterical.
"Any author with a questionable publication or statement, at any time in history, is suspect.
So how do you like our culture now?"
Gosh, are right-wingers starting to wish they never invented cancel-culture?
Boo frickin' hoo!
Indeed, Dr. Seuss's most famous books tend to promote liberal and anti-authoritarian messages.
Well, which is it?
Ha! jk
The next to the last paragraph explains it all.
" . . . anti-authoritarian messages . . . "
The key takeaway from "The Sneetches" is still there.
If there's a difference between people, no matter how trivial the difference is, there's some damnfool trying to find a way to make money from it. That twit is the real enemy.
"But like many people, Dr. Seuss changed his views over time,"
Why bother to "have a discussion" if changing one's views doesn't lead to respect and acceptance? Why bother changing one's views if one will continue to be castigated for the views one once held?
Sounds like at least one side of the debate will not accept reformed "sinners."
Changing your views only counts if it occurred in a camp.
The cancelers think it lends them legitimacy if they can extract confessions from the canceled.
Brings to mind the immortal words of Captain Biddles;
"Never apologise, Mister. It's a sign of weakness."
"Why bother changing one's views if one will continue to be castigated for the views one once held?"
This depends on the staying power of the creative works in question. Lots of people grew to be ashamed of their anti-Japanese views from circa 1941 once it proved that the Japanese make fine allies. Ever seen the Bugs Bunny WWII propaganda shorts? Probably not, because WB wasn't proud of them once the war was over. The anti-Hitler cartoons were also quite hateful, but not quite so racist.
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Lefturds don't have to like Dr. Seuss. They're missing out on some of the greatest children's literature in the world, but that's their prerogative.
When they screech at a school system to remove his books, and the craven little apparatchiki comply, it's a clear indication that the school system in question is a total loss, and parents in that vicinity should homeschool or place their kids in private schools.
Any lefturds reading this, if you're offended by my words, go fuck yourselves.
-jcr
I must be mistaken about "lefturds." I have known a lot of them during my time, and most were raised, and raised, or are raising, their own kids, with healthy doses of Dr. Suess. I think that those who object to his writings are more like "the fringe of the fringe." Then again, though few, they are noisy as all hell.
And yet the publisher has pulled some of them from publication. How fringe is that?
They seem to think the prospects for continuing to sell the rest of the books will be improved less the slightly-potentially-objectionable six. The Lorax will continue to speak for the trees for many decades to come. Meanwhile, little Cindy Lou Who joined a rock band.
George Lucas played the same game, dropping the original theatrical cut of Star Wars and only continuing to release the Special Edition.
Disney is about 12 parsecs from pretending there are only 7 Star Wars Films. (Meanwhile, Star Trek fans often pretend that only the even-numbered Trek films exist.
Fans of the TV show Community refer to "the gas leak year" as an explanation of what happened to season 4.
Finally, for really old-school computer game players, remember Leisure Suit Larry 4?
They *were* the fringe of the fringe. Now they're the mainstream of the left.
I would agree that they are more numerous than in the past. But I still think they are only "mainstream" in the media. Remember, the "silent majority" is still out there.... somewhere.... I hope.
If they were, seems like book publishers would want their money.
They'll take the money for Horton Hears a Who, The Lorax, and the Sneetches and console themselves over not making any money from "Mulberry Street" or "On Beyond Zebra". They'll do just fine. They also aren't making any more live-action versions of Dr. Seuss books, thanks to Mr. Myers.
Dude, the whole shtick of the Reason comments section is too disingenuously pretend that extreme fringe randos are representative of mainstream Democratic views.
The democrats haven't kicked the "squad" out of the party. QED.
-jcr
While the R's have done such a great job of kicking fringe wackos out of their party, you know, to set an example of how to do it.
Learning to read was very boring until The Cat in the Hat and Green Eggs and Ham came along in the 1950s
Why would our current leaders want kiddos to learn to read? That’s not even a top 5 priority in public schools.
Dr. Seuss books were appealing to strong readers, because he liked to make up his own words. He switched to writing easy-to-read books later.
Literacy helps spread propaganda and reinforce secular dogma in today’s world.
Very good point, JC. What could be less racist than _The Sneetches_?
As for being offended, I do not usually like to have to think about or deal with shit after my morning coffee and.. er... shit. I may or may not be what you call a "lefturd", but I'm still offended by that term. But if in order to engage in enlightened political discussion I have to be reminded of shit, I suppose that's the price we have to pay.
It's all well and good to tell people to send their kids to a private school, but it implies that you non-lefturds are all fairly well off - which unfortunately is not the case with everyone.
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"When they screech at a school system to remove his books, and the craven little apparatchiki comply"
The more common complainers regarding the good Dr's books come from the right. A lot of Oregon school libraries don't have copies of "The Lorax" because daddy, who works at the plywood mill, didn't want to explain to the kiddos why cutting down all the trees to make money isn't evil, and the for some people, "The Sneetches" cuts a bit close to home. Of course, partisans of all types have something to object to in "The Zax".
"He harbored anti-Japanese sentiments during World War II"
Inconceivable!
I believe at least 90% of the American public harbored anti Japanese feelings during WWII.
Ya think?!
When Obama attended the 75th anniversary of Pearl Harbor, I was half-worried he might apologize to the Japanese for the attack.
Actions in the past must be judged by today's standards, not the standards of the time. Duh.
Are you joking?
Does the term, "Rape of Nanking" mean anything to you?
How 'bout "Bataan Death March"?
Do you imagine the standards of tomorrow will ever become such that having harbored anti-Al Qaeda sentiments will become unacceptable? What about the Nazis? Was it wrong to be anti-German back then, too?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_German_Americans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731#Vivisection
Realistically the Japanese might have made the Germans look like amateurs if they'd had the time and resources
They didn't have minority groups to incinerate.
Yes I was joking.
Poe's law, dude!
You've said crazier shit than that and meant it--recently, too.
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Absolute winner for the craziest thing said recently in the commentariat is when you said that criticizing the murder of Jamal Khashoggi is an act of “cancel culture” against Saudi Arabia.
It's not surprising that you don't understand what you read.
Easy, big fella. Yes, he’s joking.
It's hard to tell when I'm drinking... so anytime after nine a.m.
That just proves how racist AmeriKKKa is!
"I believe at least 90% of the American public harbored anti Japanese feelings during WWII"
Sure, but afterwards it turned out they make good allies, and attitudes changed. But Geisel's propaganda cartoons were preserved as-is, and don't match up well with anyone's current feelings with regard to the Japanese, who make things Americans now like, such as anime, Playstations, Nintendos, and tentacle porn of the highest quality for the discerning consumer.
Yeah. My Grandmother always liked to say that you couldn't trust those Nips.
She well remembered Pearl Harbor and just couldn't forgive and forget.
My neighbors in Singapore in the 1970s were much more emphatic in their denunciations of the Japanese.
-jcr
Try Seattle in the 90's.
Wait, was it not Robbie pretending he did not know what cancel culture was when Trump mentioned it at CPAC?
"was it not Robbie pretending he did not know what cancel culture was"
As if the Conservatives didn't INVENT cancelling people, meaning you'd have to explain it for them.
“Harbored anti Japanese sentiments during WWII”
So cancel all the service men in the pacific theater in the 1940’s?
Except the Tuskegee Airmen nonsense. That lie can be pushed even further when you cancel the efforts, and 80% casualties, of the 8th Air Force.
Absolutely. Those are the worst of the worst.
"So cancel all the service men in the pacific theater in the 1940’s?"
No, just the stuff they wrote down back then.
I read these to my daughter when she was a baby. What a shame.
I feel sorry for people that did not read these books to their children. I know those books by heart. Nightly reading to your kids is one of the best things about being a Father. Remember the night that your kid insisted on reading those books to you?
I read to her every night until she got older and asked me to stop. That was a sad day.
Agreed. I have to wait for grandkids now.
It happens [they grow up, if you're fortunate], but now I can say whatever the fuck I want around my two lovely daughters!
I'm sorry you fell off the wagon.
They were how I learned to read. The beginner level books like Green Eggs and Ham are perfect. He changed the whole world with those instead of the boring primers kids were stuck with.
The "I can read" books are mostly lame.
If I had kids I'd probably just read Atlas Shrugged to them. I bet that would have the desired effect, AND it might turn them into little radicals (sort of a bonus).
I read her "The Hobbit," "Chronicles of Narnia," and was mostly through "Series of Unfortunate Events" when she decided she didn't want story time anymore. I might have to finish those on my own.
Ayn Rand would be punishment, not entertainment.
Generally speaking - people who read Rand don't read. Or at least people who talk about reading Rand can't talk about anything else they've read.
I read Atlas. Took a year.
So my admonishment to you worked.
"If I had kids I’d probably just read Atlas Shrugged to them."
I went with "Tunnel in the Sky", and "Little Fuzzy", and "Rendezvous with Rama". Podkayne with the original, proper ending.
When she started reading on her own, she went with Harry Potter, which was still new back then, and then got sidetracked into "Twilight".
To distract her from her Mom fucking cops?
That must have taken a long time doing it every other weekend for two hours.
Prices on ebay skyrocketing, as expected...
I have most of those but they are not for sale.
I wonder if another publisher could pick up the rights for those books.
"I wonder if another publisher could pick up the rights for those books."
If they don't mind violating the copyrights, they can start printing them tomorrow. Overriding the owner of the copyright on a book is intentionally difficult.
What in the heck are the high school Freshman at Chicago Public Schools going to read aloud in class now? Without "One Fish, Two Fish" and "The Foot Book", they will never learn to read.
I wish I were joking.
One fish, two fish is a challenge to read aloud. Try it and see.
They’ll read Two Fish One Cup...
The Lorax doesn’t provide enough environmentalism messages and therefor will be the next Dr. Seuss lore to be axed.
You fixed racism! Great job, heroes.
" Some of his oldest books do contain problematic illustrations of black and Asian characters. "
But for clingers such as our Robby that's no real problem.
Article: "Nobody has to read Dr. Seuss if they don't want to. "
Headline: "President Biden did not mention the famed author in his Read Across America Day speech."
. . . and so the great Soave v. Soave debate was joined.
“Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be—or to be indistinguishable from—self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time.”
― Neal Stephenson, Cryptonomicon
AKA, when you a post from a known troll, just flag and refresh; they are only here to pick fights in a pathetic effort to fill their miserable lives
The rev is useful in that he shows Robby that trying to play both sides simply won't appease the wokesters.
Soave can include as many "to be sure" disclaimers about the wickedness of Republicans as he wishes, he'll still be nothing but a reactionary wrecker.
Yes, you are right; even fleas, maggots, and mosquitoes have their purpose. But they are still execrable pests.
He was very political. During the war he drew hundreds of political propaganda cartoons. He also worked on propaganda films for the Army.
Some of his social messages in the children’s books are obvious others more subtle. The Sneeches for example represents his opposition to antisemitism. Yertle the Turtle is about the rise of Hitler.
He was also a brilliant educator. One fish two fish is a classic primer for teaching children how to read. He had said that the Cat in the Hat was a reaction to the boring primers for first graders.
I still have my collection. They are on the third generation now.
I don't know. That Green Eggs and Ham sounds pretty nasty for adults, let along kids.
I mean that damn Sam I Am is asking the poor old duffer whether he would like them here, there, anywhere, in a house, with a mouse, in a box, with a fox, in a car, in a tree, in the dark, on a train, on a plane, in a boat, with a goat...
And that little Freak-Hoe Sam I Am kept up and basically exposed himself, saying: "Eat them, eat them! Here they are!" Not even once honoring the poor old duffer's affirmative, enthusiastic consent until Sam I Am wore his ass down!
Then it was the moment when Winston Smith took his gin and cloves and finally "loved Big Brother":
"And I would eat them in a boat!
And I would eat them with a goat...
And I will eat them in the rain.
And in the dark. And on a train.
And in a car. And in a tree.
They are so goodm so goodm you see!
So I will eat them in a box.
And I will eat them with a fox.
And I will eat them in a house.
And I will eat them with a mouse.
And I will eat them here and there.
Say! I will eat them anywhere!
I do so like
Green eggs and ham!
Thank you!
Thank you,
Sam-I-am!"
Stop bein' nasty, Seuss! Stop bein' nasty!
It was brilliant.
Generations of children have loved it.
Once you have learned ‘I will eat them’ you get rhyming words.
Fox box
House mouse.
Meh. I thought "Go Dog, Go!" was a more essential distillation of verb, noun, adjective. And the chilling, stark refrain:
'Do you like my hat?"
"I do not like your hat. Goodbye."
vrroooooom...
...was a deep prefiguration of the world these children would grow up in.
This entire article smacks of bullshit.
Yes, it’s always a shock when cancel culture seeks and finds new outrage.
Haha.
There is no cancel 'culture' re this you moronic snowflake.
This 'Read America Day' started in 1998. Neither Clinton nor Bush even mentioned the day. Obama mentioned Dr Seuss in reference to the day being held on his birthday. Trump is the Prez who turned it into a let's worship Dr Seuss day. YOU are the one who is 'outraged' by media outrage over how outraged the outrage is here.
"Obama mentioned Dr. Seuss"
"On Read Across America Day, we partner with the National Education Association and mark the birthday of Theodor Geisel, whose beloved Dr. Seuss books still inspire children throughout the world to read.
"Now, Therefore, I, Barack Obama, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim March 2, 2009, as Read Across America Day. I call upon children, families, educators, librarians, public officials, and all the people of the United States to observe this day with appropriate programs, ceremonies, and activities."
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/proclamation-8349-read-across-america-day-2009
Soon Obama will be explaining to a sympathetic interviewer how he had to issue that proclamation to appease the white supremacists.
Here's Trump's proclamations on that day
Which don't mention the actual organization that created and runs that event. Soave doesn't mention that org either. Only Dr Seuss is mentioned. Apparently it takes three years and useful idiots like you believe that this is actually a Dr Seuss legacy that is being canceled.
Maybe an asshole like you can simply help kids read by donating books to their family. It takes roughly 20 books - at home - to inculcate a reading habit that adds two years to their reading achievement (which is far more than any demographic reading gap). 20 books. Probably half can survive long enough to be handed down to a neighbor. This won't happen by NEA. Their focus will be on libraries, schools, etc. As if books in home doesn't matter.
Or maybe you can just wallow in being an asshole - pretending this is all just about politics
Man you got super upset about being wrong that this is cancel culture.
It looks more like YOU getting super upset that it's not.
I love it when these idiot lolcows fuck up, get schooled and then double down.
"Or maybe you can just wallow in being an asshole – pretending this is all just about politics..."
Better than wallowing in stupid (from the article):
"it's Seuss' own publisher who's really taking things to the next level. Dr. Seuss Enterprises announced that it would cease printing six books that contain vaguely racist imagery: And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street, McElligot's Pool, On Beyond Zebra!, If I Ran the Zoo, Scrambled Eggs Super!, and The Cat's Quizzer.
The books are currently unavailable on Amazon."
WTF does that have to do with Biden? And since when did a publisher not have the freedom to decide what they will and won't publish or keep in print?
It's Geisel's family that controls the copyrights, and they're thinning out the body of works that are available in new editions. They think that leaving out the potentially-objectionable part of his oevre will prolong the influence of the rest.
Kind of like how some authors might prefer that their earliest works be forgotten to keep people remembering their later, better works. See, e.g., "To Kill a Mockingbird".
And all such problems obviated by a saner copyright term of 28 years, or 14 years, renewable thrice;, etc.
Why are the families, grandchildren and ex-wives of authors entitled to funds from the creative activity of somebody who's been dead for decades?? Would Geisel have refrained from writing if he thought there wouldn't be a "Dr. Seuss Enterprises" to profit from his work, 30 years after his death? Thus depriving us of the Butter Battle Book?
Or does public domain after 28 years of profiting satisfy the remit of Copyright in the Constitution "to promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries."?
F 'em all.
You and the Chinese Communists agree... copyright is for suckers.
On some parts of the Internet, copyrights are mere rumor (along with laws regarding child pornography, regular pornography, and numerous other subjects that might alarm your neighbors to learn you're looking for.)
https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1366811245312114694?s=19
" Trump is the Prez who turned it into a let’s worship Dr Seuss day."
Trump is the Prez who never read a book, not even his own.
I always liked the Dr. Seuss books! They were so cool. Moreover, I saw nothing racist about them. I just enjoyed reading them as a child. Now that I'm all grown up, I still love both the book and the animated movie version of "How the Grinch Stole Christmas."!
" Moreover, I saw nothing racist about them."
That was the problem... the racism in them is so subtle, you just accepted it. That's bad.
Over in the Science-fiction field, a very large amount of the early works in the field, for most of the 20's and 30's, is substantially sexist. There were some exceptions, but not very many. The world of science in the early 20th century was quite thoroughly sexist, so the literature created by and for these scientists was also casually sexist. By the 60's, smart, capable female characters were possible and much better.
Dr. Seuss knew how to be non-subtly racist. Unfortunately for the woke crowd, his explicit racism involved the Japanese-Americans, and Saint FDR shared the racism against them by putting them in internment centers.
Until that inconvenient bit of history can be memory-holed, the wokesters are forced to rely on claims of subtle racism which only racism experts can detect.
Jesse Jackson reading reading "Green Eggs and Ham";
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1mqg4C0awA
The kids were his out of wedlock crotch droppings.
one of the funniest SNL scenes.
"The Loot Book"
One looting, two looting, three looting, fight!
Looting in the morning and looting at night!
Broken statues, graffitti, and buildings alight,
this destruction proves that we are right!
"Red Fish, Blue Fish"
One looted fish, two looted fish, looted fish, from da white!
We be eatin dat free fish tonight!
Burn da buildin, paint da building, set it alight!
Those owners aren't racist but be they might!
Making fun of grinches who steal Christmas is exactly how White Supremacy works!
Go back and learn the lesson of "The Sneetches".
For those looking for "poetic justice," check out one of his wartime cartoons:
http://allardiceapenglish.blogspot.com/2012/01/mental-insecticide.html
It's the one where Uncle Sam pumps a "mental insecticide" into people's brains to kill the "Racial Prejudice Bug."
Now they're spraying *him.*
And look at that long line of white people waiting their turn to get their brains sprayed.
The wokesters would be having what (for them) passes for erections.
RIP Dr. Seuss Fuckin' Melania kilt him ded
Thank failure to renew copyright that we still have Bugs Bunny
Hello, Image Award!
Incidentally, if there were a common kids book that I would have thought might be "problematic", it would have been Curious George.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curious_George
It's my understanding that the garb of the Man with the Yellow Hat is typical of French colonials in Africa, or at least who owned plantations in Africa at the time, and, yes, the Man with the Yellow Hat brought Curious George back to France with him from Africa.
Meanwhile, Curious George is repeatedly called a monkey in the books, but monkeys have tails, where Curious George does not. I don't think he's ever described as a chimpanzee in the books, and Curious George doesn't seem to stand or walk like a chimpanzee. Sometimes he wears clothes. If I were an SJW, I might suspect that Curious George may have been adopted but wasn't really a monkey at all.
There are already people ready to monkey with Curious George.
http://www.bu.edu/writingprogram/journal/past-issues/issue-7/terhune/
Obviously, Curious George the monkey is code for a little black boy from Africa who gets civilised by whitey
I'm not even sure it's code.
Bicurious George is the 21st century updated version.
"Obviously, Curious George the monkey is code for a little black boy from Africa who gets civilised by whitey"
Are you thinking of Little Black Sambo?
There is always bi-curious George. You can get that on Amazon
It is a parody. Not meant for children.
It’s like asking if Ernie is gay.
Curious George is a made up mischevious young monkey that young children can identify with. No other animal could fit the story line.
What if he's not an animal--and everybody understood that at the time.
I had a conversation about Accept's "Balls to the Wall" not long ago. The person I was talking to had no sense of the historical context. I mentioned that you can't find the original version of the song anymore. That the original lyrics were a little more extreme--about making the world scared building a new wall with the bodies of the dead, all while goose stepping Nazis can be heard stamping their feet in the background. He didn't believe me. I asked him, what wall do you think they're talking about breaking down--in Germany back in 1983? Does the term reunification mean nothing to you?
His generation had no memory of that. The context of the song is lost on them. They dig up these artifacts and have no idea what they mean. Accept's lyrics in that song are far more extreme than any of his favorite death metal.
I'm not sure Curious George isn't like that. It may well be that French readers in 1939 had no illusions about the book being about a little boy from Francophone Africa, who was brought to France by a French colonial plantation owner.
P.S. When Ma Rainey sang about a "C. C. Rider" back in the 1920s, everyone knew it was substitute for an "easy rider", which was a slang term for a habitually unfaithful and promiscuous woman. That word means nothing to us now. The song is now nonsense, but it wasn't always that way. Maybe that's Curious George.
'“easy rider', which was a slang term for a habitually unfaithful and promiscuous woman."
I thought it was about a white guy on a motorcycle called "Captain America" from back before Disney owned Marvel and would have sued the hell out of anyone using the name of one of their characters.
Yo, fuck Jeff Bezos.
(To paraphrase Barry Goldwater, a bookseller big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take it all away. Time for antitrust action, and for investigation of Amazon's practice of predatory pricing.)
I hate to give them ideas, but Tintin in the Congo is still available on Amazon.
Or maybe they wanted to get a list of people who entered that in their search engine.
It's true. I did a Google search and could not find ANY books. Damn you Amazon! Damn you on your total lockdown of every book in existence!
Okay, that was satire. The whole Amazon is Censoring Shit campaign is just the Right's version of the Left's shitstorm over not baking gay wedding cakes.
Want a gay wedding cake? Hundreds of bakers out there willing to take your money besides Masterpiece Cakeshop. Want to buy a book? Hundreds of places willing to take your money other than Amazon.
The Right has become indistinguishable from the Left.
.Want to buy a book? Hundreds of places willing to take your money other than Amazon.
So far . Will they be able to in the future?
Under want strained rationale would you think so?
"OMG! That person over there might one day in the future take away al your rights! You must lock him up now before it's too late!"
And thus we get the anti-business Right.
Look what happened to Parlor. Not a stretch to see that expand to other industries. Add the push for all digital currency and government actions like operation choke point, the conclusion is not hard to reach.
bUiLd yoUr oWn gRant-grUbbiNg coRPoratist monoliTh
Show me one that will sell me a copy of "And to Think that I Saw it on Mulberry Street" for less than $100.
Supply and demand baby!
Yo, fuck Jeff Bezos.
When you're among the richest men in the world, throwing the social justice warriors their bones might be a wise investment.
He won't miss any meals without those book sales.
Misattribution. It was Gerald Ford who said that.
Barry used it earlier (though it seems he wasn't the first): https://www.monticello.org/site/research-and-collections/government-big-enough-give-you-everything-you-wantspurious-quotation
11qqqqNo defending Jeff Bezos on all things, but he is not the end-all, be-all of books or anything else. And being a department store owner and genuine Free-Marketeer himself, Barry Goldwater would say nothing of the sort making an analogy between a private business and government.
In fact, he'd be blue-tongued enough to say that a store that doesn't offer you shit can't take away shit, so come on down to Goldwater's.:)
"'The books are currently unavailable on Amazon.'
Yo, fuck Jeff Bezos."
For not having a source of the books that didn't come from the copyright holders?
They are just sick of competing against a dead author. They think that if they can get rid of the competition the shitty kid books they have written about things like "Timmy not wanting a penis anymore" might sell better.
Relatives of mine have recommend shit like How to Raise an Anti-Racist Baby on social media. People actually buy that garbage.
To the cancel culture, fuck off.
If you think dr. Zeuss is bad, you ain’t seen nothing yet.
You're aware that he was Jewish, right?
...and he didn't like Hitler.
Actually, I'm not sure about the Jewish part. But he certainly didn't like Hitler.
I have seen that he was of German Jewish descent. I don’t think he considered himself Jewish.
He was Lutheran.
https://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/front-page/dr-seuss-and-the-jews/2016/02/03/
He was of German extraction.
You’re a two dimensional dipshit, like one of Zeuss’s caricatures.
The holocaust is a bullshit bogeyman story too.
Gotta love Zeuss.
"S"euss.
Consider that the German enigma code was broken in 1941 and recently released allied decryption provide physical evidence that Germans were desperately trying to save lives in prison camps from the typhus epidemic.
Advocates for the holocaust narrative (fuckwits) say the decrypts demonstrate deception by the Germans. Logically you must argue that the Germans who at the same time employed no deception for their military actions must have put a much higher priority on killing Jews than winning the war.
Assuming you are willing to perform those feeble mental gymnastics, how does that explain how a single Jew survived captivity? Why did Jews get tattoos instead of the bullets allies were?
Time to rub your nose in it. Here’s your chance to attempt to refute the proof that Germans were concerned about the lives of the prisoners in Aushwitz.
Here are some actual enigma decrypts from Bletchley park in 1942 when deaths were at their highest.
The link is to many more that share all kinds of Aushwitz details, absolutely no hint of any “extermination plan”.
Firstly the number of dead for the month are nowhere near what is necessary to support the holocaust narrative.
Secondly, notable is the concern over typhus deaths and the requests for medical supplies to treat.
Here
GPDD No’s.:- 194/199, 201/203, 205, 218, 219, 222/3, 226,
233, 236, 239, 240/2, 247.
================================================================
Covering the period 3rd Aug. 1942 – 25th Sept. 1942
A
further examination is made of Concentration Camp figures;
deaths from typhus have reached a very high figure in
AUSCHWITZ.
A suspected case of typhus is reported from
AUSCHWITZ (223b/42). It is probable that on the 6th August
Nachschubkdtr. Russland Mitte requests typhus vaccine for
50 men and spottenfever serum for 20
For the first time returns are given for deaths of
prisoners (223b/14,24,43,50): the figures for August are:
NIEDERHAGEN 21, AUSCHWITZ 6829 (or 6889) men, 1525 women;
http://www.whatreallyhappened.info/decrypts/hw16_65_zip_os2_27.9.42.html
Just shut up.
Feeble
Pathetic.
"Consider that the German enigma code was broken in 1941 and recently released allied decryption provide physical evidence that Germans were desperately trying to save lives in prison camps from the typhus epidemic..."
Whose lives, you fucking nazi liar?
You are one partial cremation retard.
The 8400 dead prisoners for the month of August 1942 is many times less than the bullshit holocaust story requires.
Do you think the Germans were talking in code about the number of dead in prison camps while talking plainly about their military plans in the Bletchley park decrypts?
Are you performing those feeble mental gymnastics you fucking retard?
Nazi apologists are just so damn sad.
Nazis are your bogeyman not mine.
It’s my pleasure to expose your cherished false narrative.
It’s obviously pathetic that you fuckwits can’t refute the facts I present but still deny them.
I’ll keep presenting them, much to your chagrin. Haha.
Proud Nazi apologists are the most sad
"Gotta love Zeuss."
One of the lesser-known members of Batman's Rogues gallery.
https://batman.fandom.com/wiki/Maxie_Zeus
He was Lutheran, not Jewish, but he had sensitivity for their plight.
https://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/front-page/dr-seuss-and-the-jews/2016/02/03/
Remember when there were people here who sneered when it was suggested that the removal of Confederate General statues would lead to a slippery slope of cancellation?
In a few short years we went from Robert E. Lee to Dr. Seuss.
Do the anti-slippery slopers want to admit that they were wrong?
And, don't forget, we've moved on to Abraham Lincoln too!
"And, don’t forget, we’ve moved on to Abraham Lincoln too!"
Is he being ousted from the Republican pantheon for being a squishy liberal?
"Remember when there were people here who sneered when it was suggested that the removal of Confederate General statues would lead to a slippery slope of cancellation?"
Sneering at people raising stupid ideas is a problem for you?
"Do the anti-slippery slopers want to admit that they were wrong?"
Maybe they should wait until an occasion arises where they were.
I imagine the woke left can't forgive "The Sneetches," which imagines you can erase systemic racism against non-star-bellied sneetches just by becoming star blind.
Speaking for myself, "The Butter Battle Book" is Duranty-level Communist apologia and deeply offensive, but I wouldn't cancel Seuss for it - it wouldn't be worth losing "Oh, the Places You'll Go."
Well, duh. Being color-blind is racist. It erases BIPOC. And buttresses white supremacy.
The lesson of "The Sneetches" is that if you look carefully, you'll find some fucking idiot trying to make money by exploiting differences between people.
I never thought I would see the day when I would have to buy a Dr. Seuss book on the black market, yet here we are. Maybe I can make some money counterfeiting them.
Barely a month into the Biden administration.
"Maybe I can make some money counterfeiting them."
If you had the level of imagination of Ted Geisel, you wouldn't have to counterfeit Dr. Seuss to sell a book.
I don't have anything close to the immagination of Ted Geisel, and I'm lucky to remember my name most days.
You share his interest in making up your own words, so maybe you can build from there.
Dr. Seuss will never be canceled.
>> tend to promote liberal and anti-authoritarian messages
also undoubtedly started me on route to this place.
What are you talking about? I learned here it’s perfectly proper to shoot people on public property if they have the “wrong” ideas.
wrong bandana maybe. united blood nation.
The militias don't post their preferred bandanna colors, do they?
Just think, right now, somewhere, woke retards are pouring over the "Bernstein bears", hoping for that rush of discovering something to be offended about.
Berenstain Bears, please.
Those books are crap. You can have them.
Cancel culture got you down? Let 'em run; it's going to have to get broken, to the point that the average Jane/Joe/Pat whatever is infringed enough to cancel them.
Once upon a time, the Conservatives had a monopoly on cancel culture, and they didn't find it objectionable until someone started using it on them.
> Indeed, Dr. Seuss's most famous books tend to promote liberal and anti-authoritarian messages.
Not surprising that he's getting cancelled. Modern "liberals" are neither liberal nor anti-authoritarian. That fact that his books do not feature a State Karen trying to micromanage the activities of children probably incenses them to no end.
Also, he promoted DDT in his early Deet adverts.
Six Dr. Seuss books — including And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street and If I Ran the Zoo — will stop being published because of racist and insensitive imagery, the business that preserves and protects the author’s legacy said Tuesday.
“These books portray people in ways that are hurtful and wrong,” Dr. Seuss Enterprises told The Associated Press in a statement that coincided with the late author and illustrator’s birthday.
A könyv kiadásának és értékesítésének megszüntetéséről tavaly hónapokig tartó vita után döntöttek - közölte a társaság az AP-vel.
https://worldabcnews.com/6-dr-seuss-books-will-no-longer-be-published-due-to-racist-imagery/
Does somebody care to tell us exactly how or what in these books was “hurtful?” Or is this an example of the “worship of the written word” that is supposedly a symbol of white supremacy?
Asking to tell you how things are racist is itself racist. Do the work.
"Does somebody care to tell us exactly how or what in these books was 'hurtful?'"
Get one and look at it. It's hard to miss unless you're actively trying to.
Today in libertarian news and commentary.
One fish
Two fish
Red fish
Blue fish
No diversity for the Biden administration. Alas!
“Go Dogs Go” is obviously a dog whistle.
Alright, that was a P.D. Eastman book, not a Seuss book. But Eastman and Seuss worked together and Eastman never repudiated Seuss or demanded that he be fired. Enabler!
Eastman wrote "Go Dog Go!". Did you forget how to count while you were learning how to read?
Hint: "Hop on Pop" is Seuss'.
One Fish. Two Fish. Red Fish. EEK! a red!
Back to Dick and Jane.
Oops, I mean Dick and Dick.
Ooos, I mean Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice.
And their animal companion Spot.
Mulberry Street was published in 1937. Based on the 95-year copyright, it's public domain in 2032. Then the rest of the Sues works will start becoming public. Maybe sanity will have returned by then and someone will start publishing them again.
Nice, but I'll probably be dead by then.
Should've taken better care of your copies.
Before long, we will be issued five books we can read and those will be in electronic format only so they can be taken away should we form the incorrect opinion regarding the book. The Amazon court will select your allowed reading.
Switch to Project Gutenberg.
Dead civilization of narcissists.
This won't end well. It's not a question of when whether Thelma & Louise have driven off, rather, they already have and we're just waiting for the Wile E. Coyote Poof!
Hello.
ACME Cancel Kit is big seller on Amazon.
Interesting priority, whining about the oppression of Dr Seuss who is long dead, versus Colin Kaepernick and millions of black people who are canceled by people like the writer of this article for speaking the truth.
The book does not likes blacks you say, Or Hispanics by the way, and really bad if you are gay, take it off the shelves today, it doesn't sell much anyway, The liberal clowns will say were woke, in between or after tokes, but they don't really get the joke, that after we create the smoke, they'll buy more from the Woke-Suess-Folk.
well said!
lolwut? Colin got the world stage for 5 years and $30 million more from Nike than I did
Plus he was a shitty Q-back.
made Bernie Kosar look like *he* knew how to throw.
How many Super Bowls were you in?
Are you fucken stupid?
That would be you.
"You think they work you too hard?
Think of poor Ali Sard!
He has to mow grass in his uncle's backyard.
It's fast growing grass and it grows as he mows it.
The faster he mows it the faster he grows it.
And all that his stingy old uncle will pay,
for shoving that mower around in that hay,
is the piffulous pay of two dooklas a day.
And Ali can't live on such piffulous pay.
So he has to paint flagpoles on Sundays in Grooz.
How lucky you are you don't live in his shoes!"
Clearly Sard's uncle should be forced to pay a living wage.
Or be penalized and fined for not doing so, if that helps it get through the Groozian Senate faster.
This is what censorship looks like...even if it is not overtly carried out by the gov.
Even if it has nothing whatsoever to do with the gov.
Another fine addition to the panoply of banned literature. Imagine a museum or library dedicated to this.
"And on xer r*ght, you'll see some of the most dangerous wh*te nationalist books ever written, such as The Turner Diaries, Mein Kampf, and Oh the Places You'll Go."
The Democrats just elected the United States' first mentally retarded president. I fear that disease is spreading.
“This is an island surrounded by water, big water, ocean water.”
“And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way.”
“And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning.”
Wondering about possibilities is bad.
They weren’t possibilities. They were the musings of a retard.
"Wondering about possibilities is bad."
Wondering about stupid possibilities isn't bad. It's just stupid.
"The Democrats just elected the United States’ first mentally retarded president. "
Will you please let go of the fantasy that Trump really won the election. He just didn't. And all your wishful thinking won't make it true.
So Robby Soave thinks "Learning to read was very boring until The Cat in the Hat and Green Eggs and Ham came along in the 1950s."
What a ridiculous remark! Learning to read has been enlightening and empowering wherever in the world it has been allowed. Many schools have made learning - reading and other subjects - boring, but that's a different issue. I learned to love to read in the 1950s, outside of school, but never had any interest at all in any of the Dr. Suess books.
Ask Malala Yousafzai how boring it was to learn how to read with no Dr. Seuss.
Hahahaha. You’ve fallen into the trap. By canceling Seuss he’ll inevitably be championed by every right-wing slapnuts, and every moron that buys incandescent lightbulbs out of spite will go crazy buying his books for their kids, not realizing they’re feeding them liberal propaganda about climate change.
We didn't buy incandescent light bulbs out of spite.
We bought them because they were superior to CFLs.
LED bulbs seem like a real upgrade.
But junk like CFLs is what happens when you push something that's "greener" even though it is far inferior to what it is supposed to replace.
There are a number of different alternatives to incandescent. But you still buy them! Because that makes you kewl! Ain’t let no libtard tell me what I can stick in my lamphole!
This. I get apoplectic just thinking about CFLs. When incandescents were banned, our betters told us not to worry, that we'd actually sage money in the long run because the CFLs were so long lasting. Which turned out to be complete bullshit.
But yeah, the LED bulbs are a lot better.
"every moron that buys incandescent lightbulbs out of spite will go crazy buying his books for their kids, not realizing they’re feeding them liberal propaganda about climate change."
Once they get to the Butter Battle Book, and find out it's all about how stupid it is to divide everybody up into "Us" and "Them", those kids might have a chance at forming a rational worldview.
One of my favorite Dr. Suess products was the movie The Five Thousand Fingers of Dr. T, a work he later disowned. He wouldn't even allow it to be mentioned in authorized biographies.
Since the father of the democrat party, Andrew Jackson, committed genocide on indigenous people, and the democrats were the party of slavery, the Klan, Jim Crow, segregation etc;
Shouldn't they be 'cancelled' by the woke too?
You conveniently left out the part when the old racist wing of the Democrats all left and took over the Republican Party in the 1950s & 1960s. They’re yours now.
If they were the party of the Klan today you’d be Democrat, David Duke of Url.
Not only would Lincoln not be electable as a Republican today, but neither would Jesus be acceptable to the "religious right". That guy was WAY too liberal.
I wouldn't call myself a right winger, or even conservative. But stuff like this make me despise the left and I just can help myself. It isn't just the people that come up with crap like this that are bad people. The people that support it are just bad humans. There really is something wring with them. Most political positions are one where good, well meaning people can differ. This isn't.
Two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights do make a left.
It only takes one person on the right to find the wrong. And they'll stick with it.
" But stuff like this make me despise the left"
Did it make you despise the right back when they had a monopoly on it? Or are you not old enough to remember when all the cancellers were on the right?
Guess this will be reason 18,273 why I may have to homeschool my kids. And I'm a liberal. My kids will be exposed to Dr. Seuss and Laura Ingalls Wilder and all the other recently cancelled classic children's authors. And of course they will read the classics like Shakespeare and the rest of the canon. No one is going to deny them their heritage. Unless I can find a school that is now considered conservative but which teaches the old school liberal values I grew up with, I'll have to educate them myself.
Pick a nonsense-flattering, conservative-controlled campus that teaches that fairy tales are true, that stale bigotry is acceptable, that the '50s (1850s and 1950s) were "good old days," and that science is vaguely demonic.
I will be grateful my descendants (who attend modern, liberal-libertarian mainstream schools) will get to compete economically, culturally, and politically with your descendants (who attend backwater religious schools or are subjected to downscale homeschooling).
Dr. Seuss is part of the liberal canon. It is not bigotry, but genius. His works were and are fundamental for millions of children learning to read. I am a liberal atheist who believes in science. My father is a physicist and our whole family belongs to the Democratic party. Upholding Dr. Seuss and keeping his works from being banned and stamped out is not a conservative position - it's the liberal one.
Censorship is the radical left position - what you are espousing.
Kirkland is a persistent troll who divides the world into woke and non-woke. Evidence simply makes him angry.
He doesn't even know which positions he holds, because he is a tail tied to the kite of the woke Left, so he shifts positions more than a courtesan, with the exception that he does it for free.
"Upholding Dr. Seuss and keeping his works from being banned and stamped out is not a conservative position – it’s the liberal one."
But pretending that Dr. Seuss is being banned and stamped out is currently in fashion among the right. It's not true, but they never let that stop them from telling a story they liked before, and they're not going to start now.
Except home-schooled kids outperform government-schooled kids by every objective measure of academic achievement and interpersonal skills development. So much for science. Isn't it based on evidence?
"Except home-schooled kids outperform government-schooled kids by every objective measure of academic achievement and interpersonal skills development. "
Such as, say, to choose at random, the skill of lying on the Internet?
So Ms. Wilder had "problematic" views of Indigenous peoples?
But didn't she live among them, and write her stories based on personal experience? Isn't canceling her the opposite of believing women?
Start by reading the books, so you don't have to ask stupid questions, like "didn’t she live among them" (no) Her father was a railroad man, and moved the family from town to town as the railroad(s) was built. There's a reference to the naked savages in "Little House on the Prairie".
They can still be exposed to Dr. Seuss. Calm down. There are 800 other Seuss books that aren’t being discontinued. Only the six that have racist imagery in them.
You guys are really mad that being racist isn’t socially acceptable anymore.
Dr. Seuss on racism:
The Sneetches and other stories. Still in print, widely available.
Shakespeare had to weather this kind of crap, too. Bowdlerization became a noun because of it. Mr. Bowdler thought Shakespeare was so much better once you filtered out all that nasty sex from it.
I'm going to go look at Alibris and eBay for copies of my favorite Dr. Seuss books before they disappear. McElligot's Pool was my absolute favorite as a child.
I have only the vaguest of memories of that one. What made it memorable for you?
Great, these books are now selling for hundreds of dollars on eBay. I can't afford that. I will not forgive them for this one. They have crossed the line and I will never support or compromise with these people.
If you learn the dark corners of the Internet, you'll be able to find the complete oevre untroubled by copyright. Might even be Fair Use.
Thank God we live at this most Penultimate Moment of Supremely Self-Righteous Wokeness!
Has there ever been a people so absolutely convinced that They Know Best What's Best for Everyone (well, besides, Torquemada and his buddies in the Spanish Inquisition)? Has anyone ever -- in the history of the world -- ever possessed a moral consciousness superior to that held by these Progressive Elite?
Of course not Silly Wabbit -- how could they? THIS is the best of times; THIS is the worst of times! (Dickens was not just a racist, sexist, patriarchal, cis-gendered, heterosexist...he was also WRONG).
And the proof is obvious! Who has found more of the world offensively objectionable then these terminally woke?! Who else could have envisioned, let alone created, and subsequently preached (and successfully sold) the existence of offenses so tiny they're called 'micro-aggressions'....so impossible to detect one must be born blessed with 'micro-sensitivities'....so innate to the human character that it requires endless (literally) shaming and constant correction (the Progressive Proctor's work is never done!)?
Say it again! Thank God the Woke are here to help us and protect us from the incessant clamor of the Horribly Wrong.
Today Dr. Seuss!
Tomorrow? Well what really is left?
It's just a matter of clearing out the detritus of "twenty centuries of stony sleep".
After this, the Deluge.
VERY well said, said the man with the head.
Oh relax.
Some kids’ books that had racist images in them were shelved. Don’t be such a snowflake.
Liberals have the 'vapors' and I believe they're "too far gone" and must be committed, and it's Trump fault. Seriously though, they're not "overreaching", they're 'punishing' America for it's perfidy in 2016.
That, and to make up for lost time.
"Has there ever been a people so absolutely convinced that They Know Best What’s Best for Everyone"
Never heard of Senator McCarthy?
I'd like to hear from black parents who read these books to their children, what do you all think?
I'd also like to hear from black teens who were exposed to these books, do you think the content is harmful, or the cancel culture surrounding it?
TV stations in the South have included some of this in their news coverage.
Michael and Barack Obama both hosted Dr Seuss readings in and out of the White House. Jesse Jackson did, too.
No, not a typo.
Look for their readings on YouTube.
...and the Law of Supply and Demand kicks in:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2505460.m570.l2632&_nkw=on+beyond+zebra&_sacat=182882
"vaguely racist" If you look hard enough, misconstrue and just want to start trouble.
Before he was famous he drew blacks with exaggerated features, like a lot of artists of his time. Not just minstrel show big lips and blackness, but monkey-like.
Not just in political cartoons or war art, but in one of the kids books.
He probably didn’t know it was offensive, because it was in line with other art of the time, but we can’t just pretend it doesn’t exist.
He still shouldn’t be canceled. No one’s perfect.
https://news.artnet.com/market/racist-dr-seuss-drawing-auction-302586
If I ran the zoo, African Yerka
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQuULee0BEjnXY3CLyuAcgm35AilZGhDJ5vcQ&usqp=CAU
"He still shouldn’t be canceled. No one’s perfect. "
He isn't cancelled, and isn't likely to be.
Ouch Robby, you embarrassed yourself. Dr. Seuss is not canceled. He is simply not having his butt kissed as much as usual. It's like saying a movie is canceled if it does not win an award. I bet most people have not heard of the 6 books being canceled and if they saw the images they would realize they wouldn't want their 6-year-old looking at them. In the meantime, Dr. Seuss's other books are still freely available and in just about every classroom in America and every home with young children.
Meanwhile, in my hometown, a city ethics committee is assembling for the first time in 9 years because an administrator was critical of Rush Limbaugh. Seiously. Tht's cancel culture folks.
Perhaps partisan news sources are not the right choice for you.
Get behind the outrage of the day and get outraged, Outraged, OUTRAGED! and what THEY are trying to do to US.
When they came for the Mr. Potatohead plastic crap toys, I did not speak up because I do not need any more plastic crap toys. When they came to the door, demanding that I turn over six of the less-popular Dr. Seuss books, I said nothing because I was pretty sure I was imagining the whole thing. When they said there was a shortage of Playstation 5's, I did nothing because I already had a Playstation 4, and a Playstation 3, so I figured I was leading with a total of 7 Playstation.
I just can't pretend to be outraged over things that aren't outrageous. That's why I can't be a Conservative.
"I bet most people have not heard of the 6 books being canceled"
One of them (Mulberry Street) is the first published book by Dr. Seuss. It's referenced in some motivational posters that note how many publishers passed on publishing it before one took a chance.
"Meanwhile, in my hometown, a city ethics committee is assembling for the first time in 9 years because an administrator was critical of Rush Limbaugh."
I remember a time when it was OK to be critical of drug addicts.
Folks, I fully understand that Dr. Seuss had anti-Japanese art work during World War II and I have never supported that racism since in my days as a kid reading The World Book Encyclopedia about the horrors of the 20th Century.
But, damnit! It was President Franklin Delano Roosevelt who detained 140,000 Japanese-Americans for the duration of World War II! Why are people doing this easy-target, low-hanging fruit bullshit with Dr. Seuss and yet they haven't yanked the Goddamn God Card from FDR???
According to Thomas Sowell's Ethnic America, people both Left and Right defended the internment of Japanese-American in WWII, including the ACLU and Isolationist George Morgenstern. Where are the Cancel Goon-Squad members on all these people???
The “great woke offence” resulting in cancelling, censorship and erasure from history was a caricature of a chinaman with a bowl and chopsticks.
I can’t wait until the genderless pronoun lobby erases every book containing Mr. or Mrs.
Like you have any unburned books at your house.
Soylent Green Eggs and Ham is people!
Wokeholes don't like green eggs and ham.
They do not like them, Sam I Am.
Needed more work on those reading skills, apparently.
Green Eggs and Ham haven't accumulated any complaints. Six other books have, and are being withdrawn from the catalog by the publisher, which happens to be controlled by Geisel's family.
Shame on reason for parting the pro-cancel-culture #FakeNews by claiming these books contained "vaguely racist imagery." It's not racist "vaguely" or otherwise.
"parroting" not "parting"
It's not racist to people who are racist.
Does anyone even care about these obscure books that he wrote? It’s not like they’re canceling cat in the hat or green eggs and ham.
Totally unpopular sentiment- I never really liked Dr. Seuss, and never bought his books for my kids. I never even liked his books as a child myself. They just seem like a bunch of silly nonsense that happens to rhyme.
So dumb.
"They just seem like a bunch of silly nonsense that happens to rhyme."
With imaginative drawings, to boot.
UNLESS
unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot,
It's not going to get better
it's not.
The night after Seuss was cancelled, Amna Nawaz of PBS News aired from her home studio with a giant type poster as background- the Who What Why, Where quote from The Elephant Child by noted racist , sexist, imperialist cigar smoker & Nobelist Rudyard Kipling
No tar, feathers, torches or pitchforks as yet, but stay tuned to Newshour as PBS HR takes up the woke man's burden.
This is not the first time Dr. Seuss has come under fire
It's not cancelling, it's taking books out of print. The Seuss people don't want to make money selling somewhat questionable titles. Walmart is the same way. You can always go to the library and check these books out. Out of print doesn't mean vaporized and gone for good.
Of course, Mein Kampt is still available on Amazon.
"President Biden did not mention the famed author in his Read Across America Day speech."
Isn't there a pretty substantial list of authors who weren't name-checked in that speech? Are they ALL "cancelled"?
This has nothing to do with any "cancel culture" or any other kind of conspiracy from the left. This is nothing more than Dr. Seuss Enterprises having decided to no longer publish certain books. You snowflake conservatives need to get a damn life.
As for President Biden not making specific mention of Dr. Seuss in his speech, so what? God Damn, do we have to now specifically name people?
If you visit the WWII museum in New Orleans they have an entire room dedicated to Japanese and American war propaganda. There is racism on display at a level that modern people would have trouble understanding. The Japanese drew Americans as apes. Americans drew the Japanese as apes as well as having a manual, "How to spot a Jap". The manual instructs American soldiers and Marines to remove the shoes and look for the "nubs" where the "thumbs" were removed!
It was all state sponsored, by the Democrats. So, if you are wondering where Dr Seuss got his anti-Japanese ideas, blame the Democrats. They created the entire outrageously racist propaganda program. They are doing the exact same thing now.
Strictly, he shared FDR's attitude toward American citizens of Japanese ancestry - he wanted to abridge their civil liberties. Earl Warren thought the same, and Justice Black upheld it. So, I think, did William O. Douglas. And plenty of "right-wingers" also backed up the President on this issue.
Even the wokesters aren't (yet) seizing on this to attack Dr. Seuss, since in their puny brains there's probably some awareness that it might backfire:
https://www.nps.gov/places/franklin-delano-roosevelt-memorial.htm
Russians are the epitome of white. Of course it isn’t the same thing.
I really can not keep up with any of this.
It is said the Horton Hears a Who was written as a way of Seuss coming to terms with his anti Japanese cartoons and feelings during the war. He wrote it when he returned from a trip to post war Japan.
How's about you ignore me, then I won't have to ignore you.
Jesus, dude, calm down. A father was talking about his daughter.
Oh, looky! Another father related to the post that you said was all about me. Not that you'll ever be a father, being that your kind reproduces by fission, like other bacteria.
Do you take pride in being a piece of shit? Because you do it very well.
You mean when Trump said: “If Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her.”
Oh, man, can we please cancel FDR and stop pretending he saved the country with the new deal?
Redlining and Japanese-American internment are the weak spots in his armor, as far as his woke reputation is concerned.
That would be principled and ideological consistent, neither of which are progressive values.
You'll have to execute a few million believers to do so.
There's private museums (open to the public) that still display trophy Jap skulls. I like the one in Franklin, NC that is inscribed "Made in Japan Tested in the Solomons and Found Wanting" It's got a bunch of USMC shit on it too.
Do we really have to blame somebody?
Tony was right. Smart people talk about ideas while stupid people like you talk about people. One of these days you'll make a comment about an idea instead of a person, and I'll be shocked.
Do you read yours?
"Yea, I’m just dying to be a weepy, alcoholic single dad with an unmanageable alimony obligation that trolls this website all day while his daughter puts herself through community college courtesy of OnlyFans."
That's what a piece of shit posts. Do you talk like that to people in person? If so it's a wonder you're still alive.
"ideological consistent"
lol
That was very sanctimonious of you.
That was very sanctimonious of you.
" You are maybe half a level above Tony. "
You're looking up at both of 'em.
"as far as his woke reputation is concerned."
His refusal to support the Republican anti-lynching bill is problematic. Lynching was typically extrajudicial murder of blacks at the hands of white mobs.
Yeah, but now Japan is a first world country and people who look kinda like Japanese people are always getting into universities and stuff. Pretty sure asians are just honorary white people at this point so don't expect any serious outrage about crimes committed against them in the past.
That's kinda gross tbh. It's one thing to display propaganda and learn from how people in the past thought, but a skull? That's someone's son, possibly someone's dad. Definitely in poor taste.
"Russians are the epitome of white. "
Maybe you're thinking of White Russians. As for the rest of them, they're mixed stock at best - tatars, sami, etc. V. I. Lenin had ancestors of Scandinavian, German, and Kalmyk (Kyrgyz) origin, and that's only going back a couple of generations.
"Pretty sure asians are just honorary white people at this point"
They have been for a while, at least some of them. The apartheid regime of South Africa afforded the Taiwanese the status of honorary whites while shunning the mainland Chinese. I was surprised recently to read in Reason the call for US to accept and welcome Hong Kongers oppressed by the government, but nothing about the main landers who, if anything, face even more harsh treatment.
Yeah, well... You know, that's just like uh... your opinion, man...
I wonder if we'll get to see china pull a hitler and try to save its people from russia in the next 50 years or so (rationalization also used by russia > georgia/crimea)
Headhunting and scalping is as old as humanity.
Horton hears a Hydrogen Bomb.
Or as old as inhumanity.
“Pretty sure asians are just honorary white people at this point”
Nope, the Jinese are the greatest evil in the Trumpverse. They're commies and still whupped us playing capitalist games. Throw in some unhealthy paranoia about the origin of SARS, and the hatred flows making the sith grow stronger.
I meant what I said and I said what I meant, an elephant's faithful one hundred percent.
"rationalization also used by russia > georgia/crimea"
The Crimea has been part of Russia since they stole it fair and square from the Tatars back, what, in the eighteenth century. Russians fought and died for Crimea, not Ukrainians. As the good book says you might be finished with the past, but it's not finished with you.
I don't know about Hitler. If he was so keen on saving his people from Russia, maybe he should have thought twice about attacking them in the first place.
The fact that both Donald and Ivanka are currently married apparently wouldn't be much of a barrier, either.
Historically speaking, it IS possible to take Russia in the wintertime. It HAS been done. So thinking you can do it, too, isn't technically stupid. IF you have a really good plan, which 'dolph did not.
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