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The Not-So-Peaceful Transfer of Power

Our long record of peaceful transfers of power now has an asterisk on it.

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When I stepped out of the house on the afternoon of January 6 to pick up my kids from their neighborhood pandemic learning pod in Washington, D.C., it was very quiet. A planned playdate with their podmates—a rare luxury in COVID times—had been canceled in anticipation of the citywide curfew just announced by the mayor. Perhaps because my block was so devoid of its usual bustle, I could hear yelling in the distance. Not normal city noise; a kind of sustained, angry ranting.

I was too far from the U.S. Capitol to hear the conflict there, as supporters of President Donald Trump smashed their way into the building and forced an evacuation. Though I'd been doomscrolling all afternoon, I didn't know that at that moment a rioter was being shot by a Capitol Police officer. I didn't know that at least four others would eventually die as a result of the melee.

But looking south, I could see a trickle of people with placards coming up my street. Tired protesters are not a terribly unusual sight in D.C. of late, where there has been plenty to protest. But these folks appeared to be hustling away from something at a sharp clip. Somewhere in the distance, the yelling continued. It seemed to be getting closer.

I picked up my kids and walked them home. They ate yogurt and apples and chattered about Minecraft. I wasn't in danger. My city wasn't consumed with violence. The federal government continued to function. But I wouldn't call D.C. on the day Congress was set to certify the electoral votes, marking a milestone in the transition of power, exactly peaceful, either.

What does it mean to execute a peaceful transfer of power? I'm not alone in having brandished that phrase as something of a talisman in the past. America is a young country, relatively speaking, and chaotic at times. But one thing you can say for us is that our record of peaceful transitions of power is really quite impressive. It's one of our best attributes as a nation, and predictably pulling off such handoffs is central to the rule of law in a democratic society.

People talk a lot of smack about John Adams. Doubly so, now that he has been immortalized in not one but two Broadway musicals as a buffoon. But his choice to quietly slink out of town in a stagecoach in the wee hours of Thomas Jefferson's Inauguration Day set a precedent that the nation's leaders have managed to honor in the years since. Andrew Johnson was petty enough to hold a Cabinet meeting during Ulysses S. Grant's inauguration. But then he departed as well.

There is space in our system for many challenges to election outcomes, from county-level recounts all the way to the Supreme Court. Virtually all of those options were exercised this year, with varying levels of competency, honesty, and legitimacy. They all failed. When that happens, you don't have to be happy about it, but you do have to go, and go without violence. And our presidents always have.

The fact that, after an election is over, everyone knows that they get to try again in two years or four years or six years is crucial. The fact that no policy is ever settled can be frustrating. But it keeps the stakes of politics low in an important way. We don't require our politicians to win or die trying. And we don't do violence to the losers. There are limits to the will of the people, and this is one of them.

So how to account for what happened at the Capitol on January 6? It was a violent, inept attempt to disrupt one of the civil rituals that mark—and celebrate—peaceful transition. That effort was greeted by violent, inept attempts by law enforcement to protect the transition process.

The rituals themselves have purpose. It is useful to routinely remind ourselves that we are proud of the ways we typically handle switches of partisan control. But on a practical level, this was probably a case against pomp and circumstance. There is no reason on God's COVID-infested Earth that Congress couldn't have met via Zoom and certified the Electoral College results via DocuSign. Congressmen love the trappings of their offices and always have, but if you build something up as a symbol, it will also attract those who wish to symbolically destroy. (Recall the fate of many a bronze effigy this summer.)

Still, the day of the certification of electoral ballots isn't a natural flashpoint. Election Day itself and Inauguration Day are more obvious targets. Protesters converged on the Capitol in this case because the president called them there. "Big protest in D.C. on January 6th," he tweeted on December 19, the first of several such summons. "Be there, will be wild!"

At the end of that wild day, about 16 hours after rioters stormed the Capitol, Trump issued a statement through a surrogate saying, "Even though I totally disagree with the outcome of the election, and the facts bear me out, nevertheless there will be an orderly transition on January 20th." That is slightly below the bare minimum, and the fact that it was tweeted out at nearly 4 a.m. hardly inspires confidence.

Trump has also already promised and reversed himself several times on the matter. In September, when asked about the "peaceful transferral of power" at a press conference, he declined to directly answer the question. "Well, we're going to have to see what happens," he said. We've seen what happened. It left at least five people dead, dozens hospitalized, and a significant amount of property damaged. But it did not stop the certification of the electoral ballots. Indeed, debate resumed later that evening, complete with its usual absurd grandstanding for the C-SPAN cameras.

A 2014 study in the journal Comparative Political Studies found by examining thousands of transitions going back to 1788 that 68 countries had never had a peaceful transfer of power. But encouragingly, the same study found that when countries do manage peaceful transitions, the habit tends to stick. Each nonviolent handoff of power to an opposing party dramatically increases the chances that the next one will be chill as well.

We have a lot of political and cultural capital built up. Although this issue is going to print a week before inauguration, our good civil habits, paired with robust institutions, will almost certainly carry us through this transition. We will go back to the adult equivalents of yogurt and Minecraft. (Shrooms and cable news, perhaps?) We are, however, burning that capital at a dangerous rate. So much so that we risk ending up with a burning Capitol. It's still not likely, but it's more likely than it was four years ago.

What happened on January 6 wasn't a coup. But it ended in multiple violent deaths in the halls of Congress, a citywide curfew in the nation's capital, and a troubling uncertainty over whether our legislature would be able to meet a crucial electoral deadline. At the very least, our long record of peaceful transfers of power now has an asterisk on it, and there's reason to fear worse in the future. As a not-so-great man once said: We're going to have to see what happens.

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  5. And to claim that our long history of peaceful transfers of power only now has an asterisk is absurd – it’s like you’ve forgotten about 4 years of anti-Trump protests and that time they protested Abraham Lincoln’s election. Stop being so dramatic.

    1. LBJ took office pretty peacefully desu

    2. I can’t tell if reason editors are lying or just plain stupid.

      https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/arrests-violence-flares-parts-capital-inauguration-day/story?id=44925970

      Thats from 2017. And as you say there were illegal FISA warrants, open resistance from non political appointees, stories of antifa connected workers using government databases to do, etc.

      Why the gaslighting from Katy? Or is she plain stupid?

      1. WAHTABOUT THE OTHER SIDE??? HUH?

        MY NAME’S JESSE, AND I CANNOT TALK ABOUT ANY ISSUE EXCEPT RELATIVE TO WHAT THE OTHER TEAM IS DOING

        IF TEAM BLUE DOES SOMETHING, THEN IT’S TOTALLY OKAY FOR TEAM RED TO DO IT

        1. Maybe you should find a comment that actually defends the rioting of January 6th.

          The premise of this article is phenomenally stupid. There was mass rioting and violence on January 20, 2017. The left put an asterisk on peaceful transitions of power, so it is… well, unfortunately, exactly what we expect from Mangu-Ward… to pretend that the asterisk was added in 2021.

          1. Does it matter to you at all that the rioting and violence on Jan. 6 was an attempt to interfere and subvert the certification of the Electoral College vote? That this rioting and violence was different in motivation and substance than the rioting and violence that took place on Jan. 20, 2017, or at other times?

            1. Left was too scared to try to bum-rush a government building. They go after soft targets like businesses and empty cars.

            2. No it doesn’t matter. The premise of the article is that Nov. 6th is the ONLY time there was not a peaceful transition of power. It is lazy reporting. And on what do you base the fact that the rioting on Jan. 20th, 2017 was different? If anything, that riot was more violent.
              It was not categorized as ‘insurrection’ like this riot was. So ridiculous.

              1. The rioting on Jan. 20, 2017 did not disrupt the transition of power. No one tried to stop the certification of the electoral college vote, no one tried to stop the inauguration, no one tried to undermine the democratic process itself through violence. That is how it is different. That is why many people have good reason to refer to Jan. 6, 2021 as “insurrection” but Jan. 20, 2017 as not. It is not about the level of violence. It is about what the target of the violence was and what the intent of the violent acts were.

                1. Club to the head. Only solution.

                  1. He is quite dense, isn’t he? Or maybe he’s being dishonest again? Who really cares?

                    1. You need to have more confidence in Jeff. He can be both incredibly dense *AND* incredibly dishonest at the same time.

                2. Call it what you want. I don’t buy into the MSM narrative. A protest that transmogrified into a mob riot, very common, interrupted the certification process because of safety concerns. Calling it an insurrection when just a few hours later the election was certified is ridiculous.

                  Sorry, don’t agree with you and never will because when you start conflating that kind of definition to make this … or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. criminal we are lost.

                  Using the weak as second bag tea word fight, as the inciting call to rally is also ridiculous. If you choose to buy into that slim a narrative and call that truth then I feel sad for you. Your ability for critical thinking and discernment has clearly been stunted.

                  1. He’s also a very dishonest piece of shit, so he might not even believe his own rubbish.

                  2. Yeah, insurrections actually result in politicians being removed, and even killed, and military people switching sides. See the protests in Egypt, or the uprising in Libya, during the Arab Spring for an example of a real, live insurrection in action.

                    Antifa and BLM trying to storm the White House during several days of riots last summer was not insurrection, but a bunch of blue-collar plumbers, firefighters, and ex-military waltzing past the Capitol police, fucking around in the building taking selfies and putting their feet on Pelosi’s desk, then walking out 45 minutes later without actually accomplishing anything was.

                    Funny how one event resulted in the government setting up a green zone in the nation’s capital, but the other didn’t.

                    1. But, but, but…Sandy Cortez says they would have murdered her, for sure, if they had gone into the building blocks away from where they gathered.
                      Why, that Capitol police officer almost did, with that mean look on his face.

                3. OBAMA SENT HIS INTEL COMMUNITY OUT TO SPY ON TRUMP TO ATTEMPT TO OUST HIM.

                  Reality sucks, don’t it?

                4. The rioting on Jan. 20, 2017 did not disrupt the transition of power.

                  Neither did the kerfuffle of Jan 6, 2020. Or are my lying eyes lying to me?

                  1. No, as usual, it’s Jeff that’s lying.

                  2. Yes it did. They had to pause the certification because of the riot.

                    As opposed to whatever happened in January of 2017, which did not disrupt any transfer of power and didn’t stop any of the scheduled events from taking place.

                    1. So what? It didn’t prevent anything. There was absolutely no chance that it would. Several hours of delay is nothing. They didn’t stop any scheduled events from taking place, only briefly postponed them.

                    2. Well, true, it only impacted civilians and not politicians — true, MANY more civilians — and nothing that does not impact pols is really all that bad. Keep forgetting that they are our betters.

            3. “Does it matter to you at all that the rioting and violence on Jan. 6 was an attempt to interfere and subvert the certification of the Electoral College vote?”

              Jeff’s so fucking stupid, he assumes a hundred folks armed with broomsticks constitutes an threat the the nation.
              Or claims to be that fucking stupid.

              1. Waddabout the hockey sticks?

                And why no torch or pitchfork fatalities

            4. Do insurrections normally occur with no weapons (save me the zip ties that the Capitol police conveniently left unattended)?

              Are insurrections lead by guys with a Viking hat who once they have acquired the target, write a note to the legislature say a prayer and leave?

              Post insurrection can the target of the insurrection be cleaned up by a vacuum cleaner and the congress critters proceed in a couple of hours normal business?

              Insurrection !! Just so dumb !

              1. Haha. Yup. Insurrectionists, nazis, global warming…….. it’s almost as if everything the left says is inflated 1000 fold for dramatic effect.

            5. Not really when there was zero chance of the mob affecting the election certification.

        2. Jesus you lefties are so broken.

          1. Poor Troll Mac, still the asshole.

            1. Poor Jeff; still a fucking idiotic asshole.

        3. If JesseAz was a superhero he’d be… The Incredible Tu Quoque Man!

          1. Fuck off SQRSLY

          2. Says a lot that you consider the ability to remember facts and employ the ‘both sides’ argument a superpower.

            1. It’s called “whataboutism” in Newspeak, and hypocrisy is now allowed as long as you use that term.

          3. As usual, sarcasmic uses “big words” he doesn’t quite comprehend.

            The children’s internet is over there, sarc ===>

        4. You think cops can kill people for trespassing.

          And whataboutism is cried out by idiots who are trying to hide their own hippocracy. You do this constantly because your convictions are solely based on what makes the left look better.

          1. Whataboutism is the refuge of tribal morons who have no arguments to defend their own tribe’s actions and can only point to the other side to justify their own ugly acts.

            1. Your mother is an ugly act.

            2. Whatabout their obsession with everyone who disagrees with them being the same person? Do you think they really believe it, or are they just trying to goad us into a response? Doesn’t really matter to me though. I’m never going to give them the pleasure of a reply again.

              1. And when I say “pleasure” I mean it. They get off on this shit. Imagine them jerking off while they talk shit and you’ll never read their posts again.

                1. Bitch, you’ve outed your SQRSLY sock more times than we can count.

                  “Imagine them jerking off”

                  I bet you do …

                  1. “Imagine them jerking off”

                    He doesn’t realize he just owned himself again.

                    1. How can someone be that retarded, seriously?

                    2. It’s the booze man.

                2. “imagine them jerking off”

                  Another reason your wife left, huh.

                  1. Sarc is Tony!?

        5. chemjeff radical individualist
          February.9.2021 at 9:05 am
          “WAHTABOUT THE OTHER SIDE??? HUH?”

          ““…We often think Tony, Shrike, and ChemJeff are being dishonest–especially when they don’t seem to learn anything from having their arguments shredded and smeared in their faces everyday for years. But the fact that they don’t seem to learn anything–knowledge wise or in terms of critical thinking–may be consistent with the hypothesis that they’re just not that bright. And we shouldn’t necessarily assume that Binion, Boehm, or Britschgi are fundamentally different from them.
          Maybe the reason they try to make us feel is because they’re incapable of making us think. It is beyond their capabilities…”

          Hint, you blathering piece of lefty shit, it wasn’t about the ‘other side’; it was pointing out that the claim of being unique was bullshit.

        6. “WAHTABOUT THE OTHER SIDE??? HUH?”

          SHE CLAIMED THAT THIS WAS THE FIRST NON PEACEFUL TRANSITION OF POWER, YOU DOLT.

          It’s not “whataboutism!” to point out that she does not know what the fuck she’s writing about.

        7. IF TEAM BLUE DOES SOMETHING, THEN IT’S TOTALLY OKAY FOR TEAM RED TO DO IT

          Actually, yes, it is.

        8. When someone is claiming that this is an unprecedented less-than-peaceful transition, it is quite reasonable to point out that it isn’t in fact the first time something like that has happened.

      2. Roger Stone, an elderly man with no history of violence whatsoever, had his house raided by dozens of FBI agents in full combat gear with land, air, and sea vehicles. They went in with guns drawn (and cameras rolling).

    3. yeah, 1861 wasn’t exactly peaceful

    4. Did someone inform the stupid cunt that it was Bidet supporters doing the smashing, and Bidet who wanted 25,000 armed troops, and Trump who offered them ahead of time but they refused?

  6. I love how Biden using any excuse to occupy the capitol with thousands of troops is Trumps fault. Trump made it through an entire summer of deadly riots, yet somehow managed to keep his cool where Biden couldn’t. Maybe you should ask yourself why the guy you like is such a fascist.

    1. Don’t worry, be happy! At their NEXT attempt, we can ALWAYS hope that the insurrectionist trumpanzees gone apeshit, WILL succeed! There IS hope; read THIS!

      (Get your hotel reservations NOW!)

      https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-dc-hotel-hiking-rates-qanon-think-sworn-march-4-2021-2

      Trump’s DC hotel is hiking prices for March 4, the day QAnon followers think the former president will be sworn in

      1. >Business Insider
        Why not give a link to a legitimate website, like Buzzfeed. 🙂

        1. Buzzfeed – Media Bias Fact Checkmediabiasfactcheck.com › buzzfeed
          A 2014 Pew Research Survey found that 59% of Buzzfeed’s audience is consistently or mostly liberal, 27% Mixed and 14% consistently or mostly conservative.

          I’m often not “up” on shit like this; I had to check.

          I would add this: Never believing stuff from a source that you suspect is biased, is a quick route to insanity, or worse! If a Marxist tells you that cyanide is poison, ya gonna go right out and grab some of it to eat?

          1. Effective liberal propaganda take factually true statements and ties them to progressive policies. Fact: COVID-19 is real and more deadly than the typical influenza virus. Policy: Mandatory lockdowns until Trump is out of office. Questioning the efficacy and legality of extended lockdowns shouldn’t be conflated with COVID-19 denial.

            1. The “motives” crap and strawmen figure in prominently as well. I recall all too well Bill Clinton and a flat-out claim that if you opposed his scheme of federalizing vaccinations for children, you were against vaccinations for children!!!

              Ye who oppose the federalization of all food, clothes, and medicine for all USA children? WHY do you HATE the children so much?!?!

              1. fuck off sarcasmic

                1. damiksec LIKES the idea of the federalization of all food, clothes, and medicine for all USA children!

                  Marxists gotta Marxistify! 110 to 150 millions dead worldwide in the 20th century is NOT yet enough evidence for evil people, that Marxism doesn’t work!

                  But damiksec will make it work RIGHT, this time around!

                  1. You deserve to be murdered in your sleep by Nardz.

                    1. Lol. Nardz is just a typical Internet Tough Guy. And so are you.

                    2. Lefty shit chimes in

                    3. Murder is unlawful.
                      Self defense is not.

                    4. Maybe you can join Nardz and damikesc in the Citizen’s Brigade to get Civil War 2 Electric Boogaloo started. Better start training!

                    5. And treason is not treason if the revolution is successful, Nardz!

                    6. Keep telling yourself that chemleft.

                    1. Wow, look at computer genius here!

                      Did you have a good bowel movement today, Sevo? Ya gonnna clutter up the comments with your bragging about that ass well, asshole?

                    2. Spambots get spamflagged Sqrlsy.

                    3. Did you you have a pleasurable session with your moose today, Mamma? You gonna clutter up the comments with that ass well, asshole?

                      Some of us MIGHT be proud of your and your accomplishments, and thankful for your “sharing”, but I think it safe to say, most of us are NOT!

          2. It is hilarious you think your bias fact check site is non partisan. Lol. Why you think The Atlantic is only slightly biased. Fucking shit eating idiot.

            1. Your schtick is tiresome. When confronted with anything, you:

              1. Attack the source as unreliable (even as you use unreliable right-wing and Twitter sources all day long)
              2. WHATABOUT THE OTHER SIDE????
              3. Engage in juvenile insults

              That is all you do. It is pathetic, Jesse. You cannot reason out of a paper bag.

              1. Jeff thinks cops can kill people for trespassing.

                Jeff isn’t a libertarian.

                And you talk about others with regards to Reason? All you do is sophistry and excuses. Look above at you crying whataboutism to avoid your hippocracy.

              2. That’s because the only real remaining solution is to club you lefties in the head and bury you deep.

              3. At least he’s consistent. Gotta give him that.

              4. Having your hypocrisy pointed out isn’t the definition of “whataboutism”, Jeff.

                It just enrages you to be called out on that, doesn’t it?

          3. Fuck off sarc

            SQRLSY One
            February.8.2021 at 5:59 pm
            Your gist two smart fur the wrist of U.S.A.!

            sarcasmic
            February.8.2021 at 4:46 pm
            Day stow dee ewekshun! Waaaaah!

      2. Demand spiked so prices rose?
        Wow, totes socialist…

        1. Be sure to get your trump-hotel reservation NOW, Nadless! PLEASE piss away your money NOW, so you have LESS money to buy more of your pipe bombs, while you lust after war, death, and destruction!

          1. Seriously sarc, when your regular handle starts posting the same shit as your retard sock, it becomes obvious.

            1. Wow, look at computer genius here!

              Did you have success today in suppressing your urges to rape roadkill? Please brag about THAT to us ass well, asshole!

              1. Spambots get spamflagged.

                1. When the still, small voice of Conscience comes to you, in the middle of the night, and quietly nags you about your arrogance, condescension, and self-righteousness, you “flag and refresh” it, don’t you, self-satisfied smug Wonder Child? Ye who have silenced the Voice of your Conscience already, to the point that it might as well scream to you as loudly as an amoeba can?

                  1. I am smug. Dealing with you idiots is probably making me unwarrantedly vain.

                    When I’m conversing with imbeciles like you, I get the feeling that I’m an intellectual giant… and I am, but only relative to you.

      3. Oh, my god. Everyone fuck off with this shit. Ignore people if you don’t like what they say. Everyone has made their point. We get it. But the meanie-cons and the silly troll-ish people aren’t going anywhere. Can’t we all just get along?

    2. Praetorian Guard

  7. A transfer of power where unelected media oligarchs employed communist China style censorship of the sitting president of the United States and millions of people.

    The mere suggestion of, much less presentation of evidence of election fraud verboten.

    Mike Lindell of the MyPillow company has found a platform and released his long-awaited video documenting the voter fraud of the 2020 election.

    http://www.worldviewweekend.com/tv/video/absolute-proof-exposing-election-fraud-and-theft-america-enemies-foreign-and-domestic

    1. Sane people with a grip on reality don’t deny history, as history is defined by a vast, vast majority of historians, with (in cases like this) boat-loads of evidence. No, historians and history aren’t perfect… Nothing (or hardly anything) is. But your denial of overwhelming consensus history shows some pretty severe paranoia… Everyone is out to “get you” and to trick you, right?
      I am doing a service to readers who aren’t familiar with your paranoia… Let all new (or newer) readers beware, much of what Rob Misek has to say, needs to be examined carefully!

      The Earth is actually flat, and the center of the Universe.
      A secret cabal of Jewish bankers is diabolically manipulating the world towards world-wide communism.
      Space aliens secretly comprise 10% of Earthings, and are twisting us and them towards the day when they will enslave and eat us all!
      The Earth is hollow, with a vast array of large, powerful beings living underneath us.
      Being part of a TINY-TINY elite of humans who know the “secret truth” is the other element of your serious whack… Paranoia, and “special elite knowledge”… The later is evidence of mania, of egomania… Some serious self-examination on your part, would be in order!

      You can show Rob Misek an endless parade of well-documented history books about the holocaust, interviews with a few survivors, and video of walking tours of holocaust museums and preserved genocide sites (gas chambers etc), photos of starved corpses stacked cordwood-style…
      And Rob Misek will “summarize” for you, saying,
      “OK, sure, I’ve heard that before! Ha!…
      ‘Mustache Man Bad’ hyped propaganda!”
      #Mustache_Man_Bad

      1. If I cook a batch of cookies every 2 hours and I have a dozen ovens running day and night for 5 years, how many batches of cookies will I make? 😉

      2. There is no point in arguing with an anti semite SQRLSY.

        My wife is the child of survivors of that horror.

        What they want is a platform. Do not give them that opportunity.

        1. I do struggle with the temptation to pay too much attention to the likes of Tulpa. Misek is hopeless as well, best as I can tell… There is no sense in trying to persuade him of ANYTHING! As best as I can judge my own motives (admittedly a tough task), I am hoping to warn new readers to NOT bother to try and reason with Misek!

          But thanks!

      3. Asshole’s wearing out the refresh key this morning. Prolly Trump’s fault, but I haven’t looked.

      4. “A secret cabal of Jewish bankers is diabolically manipulating the world towards world-wide communism”

        This isn’t the first time that Sqrlsy’s outed himself as a Nazi.
        Remember when he said that he loved Hitler and the Devil?

        “SQRLSY One
        September.30.2020 at 12:53 pm

        Yes! This FURTHER proves that Hitler was NOT a racist!
        Since even Hitler wasn’t a racist, we can pretty firmly conclude that racism isn’t a “thing” at all!

        “SQRLSY One
        November.1.2020 at 8:51 am

        Here, this is a pretty good match! Every asshole is a good, right, and TRUE, benevolent asshole!
        https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/hitler
        “My spirit will rise from the grave and the world will see I was right.”
        ― Adolf Hitler

        SQRLSY One
        November.9.2020 at 4:26 pm

        Bimsday, 39 Bemberbember 2020 at 6:66 PM
        I love to LIE my ass off, and suck Satan’s dick! Because I hate humanity! The Evil One is the Father of Lies, just as Der TrumpfenFuhrer is the Stable Genius! So, as the apple falls not far from the tree, I INSIST on telling obvious lies, all day, every day! Butt… Surprise, surprise! Other Evil Ones Junior will fall for my lies… Because they want to!

        SQRLSY One
        December.2.2020 at 7:09 pm

        Bimbosday, 43 Bimbobember 2020 at 6:66 PM
        I lust after being abused by power-mad politicians, because I am power-mad myself! And I suffer under the utterly stupid illusion that power-mad politicians will feed me, like a doggy under the table, a wee few, tiny scraps of their vast powers.

        1. Mother’s Lament
          Bimbosday, 43 Bimbobember 2020 at 6:66 PM
          I lust after being abused by power-mad politicians, because I am power-mad myself! And I suffer under the utterly stupid illusion that power-mad politicians will feed me, like a doggy under the table, a wee few, tiny scraps of their vast powers. Biden came up here to Canoodlestanistanistanistanistan to noodle me and my poodle, and give me nookie, with my Wookie and my bookie, but all that Biden would do, is smell my hair! So I lust after Der TrumpfenFuhrer to come up here and grab my pussy good and hard!

          1. Yeah, that’s the crazy gibberish I’m talking about.

            1. I’m curious what he was trying to prove by adding additional gibberish from his post?

              1. To show that Mamma the Moose-humper is a lying, evil bitch, as usual! Badly placing shit out of context is just another form of lying!

                Is your dim bulb capable of understanding that?

        2. Has Der TrumpfenFuhrer to come up there and grabbed your pussy good and hard yet? WHY is your moose NOT good enough to keep you satisfied!?!?

          1. Do you think I’m a girl, Sqrlsy?

          2. The writings that you post here come from the voices in your head, which are neither male nor female. The voices in your head (deluded, vain, full of lies) come from the Evil One (whether “real” or not, makes no difference; the end results are the same).

            For more about THAT whole ugly ball of wax, see the writings of M. Scott Peck. Male and female, sex, implies creation. The Evil One knows NOTHING about creation; only destruction. So it is an “it”, and no more! These thoughts are per M. Scott Peck, The People of the Lie! Read and heed!

            https://www.secondsale.com/i/people-of-the-lie-the-hope-for-healing-human-evil/9780684848594

            “Yeah, that’s the crazy gibberish I’m talking about.”

            Then WHY did you strip context out of it, evil, smug liar?

            1. I’ve told you time and time again to stop stalking me you crazy weirdo. I’m not your guru and I don’t want you endorsing my book.
              Please just leave me and my wife’s son alone.

    2. Day of the Pillow for Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer when?

    3. Right after the election I found the Dominion manual on line.

      You can:
      Switch votes
      Connect to the internet
      weight votes
      download or upload election results

      So based on Dominion’s own manual it can be used for election fraud.

      Apparently at least in the very limited MI examination of the machines in one county it was.

      The cyber log shown on the video shows actual vote fraud.

      So the claim is no evidenced and that all has been debunked is laughable.

      And when you have to censor it means you are covering up plain and simple. Otherwise actually “debunk” it versus just repeating the word.

      1. Yes it is POSSIBLE to use a voting machine for fraud. It is also POSSIBLE to use a voting machine for totally legitimate purposes. That something CAN be used for fraud doesn’t prove that it WAS used for fraud.

        And what happened in Antrim County was that one of the poll workers accidentally set a wrong option for counting the ballots, giving an erroneous count. When the error was found, the ballots were re-counted and the correct count was established. That’s it. That is the “fraud”.

        1. And yet you’ve been woth the side against any and every audit. If you believe your gaslight, let audits happen. Such as Maricopa County which is now refusing to allow a state audit of their machines even though the state has the legal authority.

          And what you claim happened in antrim County has no actual evidence behind it. You just fucking bought the narrative sans fact like the good useful idiot you are.

          1. Oh look this is what else you do.

            When someone brings up issue X, you say something along the lines of BUT WHAT ABOUT ISSUE Y? WHY DIDN’T YOU DENOUNCE ACTIVITY Z? All of these red herrings and non-sequiturs. The entire point of which is to distract and deflect because you have no argument against issue X.

            It even has a name. It is called a Gish Gallop.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop

            You do this all the fucking time, Jesse. Why don’t you try to stay on track and address the essence of the issue at hand without trying to divert attention from it.

            Just because a machine CAN be used for fraud doesn’t prove that it WAS used for fraud. Do you agree with that statement, Jesse? Yes or no?

            1. Again, you use whataboutism incorrectly. I called out the flaw in your reasoning, the fact that there is no audits to verify the sanctity of the vote. You are the one who denies any and every audit. Your claims are only sound in the face of evidence of a fair and valid election.

              You’re an idiot Jeff. Sorry to tell you this. Most people already have, you should understand this by now.

              1. Yea, its possible, can I look at the voting machine? nope, you’ve been debunked!

                So much confidence is instilled when you won’t let independent auditors look at the results of the election. LOL

              2. And the distraction and deflection continues. You won’t answer my question but you’ll call me names. That is because you are an idiot with no answer and no critical reasoning skills.

                1. What was the question?

            2. SO chemjeff is also SQRSLY? LOL

            3. That’s not what Gish Gallop is. Gish Gallop is where you present so many erroneous arguments at once that it overwhelms your opponents ability to respond. You even linked to the correct definition FFS.

              How can you guys be so continually retarded?

              Anyway, Jesse is right to point out your inconsistency and hypocrisy on the issues.

            4. Just because a shower CAN be used for exterminating Jews doesn’t prove it WAS.

        2. Yes it is POSSIBLE to use a voting machine for fraud.

          That should be the stopping point. If a voting machine is designed for one purpose, tallying votes, than that should be its purpose in an election. If it is possible for that voting machine to be used for other purposes that may allow for fraud then that voting machine is not the right voting machine for a fair election.
          It is that simple.

          1. Shut up cultist!

          2. It is POSSIBLE to use ANY VOTING METHOD for fraudulent purposes.

            So how do we count votes then in your world, when any conceivable way of tallying votes is possibly fraudulent?

            1. Voter I.D. In person on chain of custody traceable paper ballots and high threshold signature matching on absentee ballots along with postmark on absentee ballots. And ending universal mail in ballots, and in cases like PA, universal mail in ballot request forms. Especially ones, like in the case of PA, that require no chain of custody or verification to receive.

              1. Yes, like before big tech took control of the process.

                Now how do we stop big tech from censoring us,

            2. Do you enjoy making yourself look stupid?

    4. Fucking trolls.

      This topic is far more important than your bogeyman narrative.

      If you’ve got nothing on topic to add, just be silent, like you always do when you can’t refute what I say.

  8. Sicknick died after defending the Capitol on Jan. 6 against the mob that stormed the building and interrupted the electoral count after then-president Donald Trump urged supporters on the National Mall to “fight like hell” to overturn his defeat. The U.S. Capitol Police said in a statement that Sicknick, who died the next day, was injured “while physically engaging with protesters,” though a final cause of death has not yet been determined.
    https://worldabcnews.com/u-s-capitol-police-officer-who-died-following-jan-6-riot-lying-in-honour/

    1. This, and more, the insurrectionist trumpanzees gone apeshit are doing for you and me! We, as a Nation, need to cum together, and be grateful… Even the dead, should be the grateful dead… And be PROUD of our Proud Boys, and others!!!

      1. BLM can kill 30 people and you dont give a fuck. So how about dropping the fake politically expedient sanctimony.

        1. It is called “whataboutism”; you ever heard of that, obtuse Wonder Child? What about BLM? Shall we forgive your stupidity… Because, what about rocks? Some people think that rocks are even more brain-dead than JesseBahnFuhrer, and I suspect that they are correct? (Although I’m not totally sure of that).

          I haven’t heard you bitching about the idiots in “Pizzagate” gone berserk… You must APPROVE of them, I bet!

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory

          1. “Epstein was a hoax.”

      1. Even CNN had to report over the weekend that the officer had no visible bruising or evidence of a physical attack. Yet the media narrative lives on.

        1. They’re not called useful idiots for nothing.

      2. there is no evidence of that claim. just a bunch of climate denier style smoke and mirrors.

        1. How is climate related to physiology, you retard?

    2. “…though a final cause of death has not yet been determined.”

      Pretty muck kills your narrative there, idiot.

    3. He had a stroke in his office.

      No one has any actual evidence of the alleged fire extinguisher.

      The default assumption is: If a leftist says it, it is a lie.

  9. From the right-wing propagandists at CNN, in 2017:

    “Police injured, more than 200 arrested at Trump inauguration protests in DC”

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/19/politics/trump-inauguration-protests-womens-march/index.html

    1. From the Marxist propagandists at BBC, claiming total lies and exaggerations about the number dead in the USA, after a previous insurrection attempt:

      https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-17604991#:~:text=For%20more%20than%20a%20century,number%20underrepresented%20the%20death%20toll.

      Excerpt:

      …historian J David Hacker published a paper that used demographic methods and sophisticated statistical software to study newly digitised US census records from 1850 to 1880.

      His finding: An estimated 750,000 soldiers died in the war – 21% higher than the 19th Century estimate.

      “We already knew that the war was devastating,” Prof Hacker says.

      1. Willfully obtuse is not a flattering look.

        1. Mongering after war, death, and destruction, by civil-war-lusting hordes of trumpanzees gone apeshit, is a far WORSE look!

          1. And what does any of that have to do with Cal using an article from the last inauguration to point out that this article by KMW is bullshit sarc?

            1. It is called “whataboutism”; you ever heard of that, obtuse Wonder Child? Shall we forgive your stupidity… Because, what about rocks? Some people think that rocks are even more brain-dead than R Mac, and I suspect that they are correct? (Although I’m not totally sure of that).

              1. The claim by the author is that this is the first time there has been violence during the inauguration. Pointing out that there was violence at the last inauguration is not whataboutism sarc, it’s pointing out that the author is full of shit.

                KMW: Sunday was the first time Tom Brady won the Super Bowl.

                Everyone: No he’s won it six times before.

                Sarc: Whataboutism!

                1. “The claim by the author is that this is the first time there has been violence during the inauguration.”

                  These are the voices in your head! They are NOT real! Do NOT obey them or listen to them in ANY way! You do so at your own peril!

                  I carefully read all of the author’s words. You LIE, evil one junior!

                  Why do you insist that listening to the lying voices in your head, and the Evil One, are SUCH good ideas? Do you have any evidence of this?

                  1. “Our long record of peaceful transfers of power now has an asterisk on it.”

                    It’s the fucking subtitle retard. Or are you claiming that by “now” she’s referring to 2017?

                    1. “Our long record of peaceful transfers of power now has an asterisk on it.” = “The claim by the author is that this is the first time there has been violence during the inauguration.”

                      On what planet?

                      “Roses are red” = “Roses are all (ALL of them!) blood-covered from having been brutally tortured and murdered”.

                      “Someone hurt the baby feeling of R Mac” = “Everyone is unfairly out to GET R Mac! Killing in self defense would be justified”!

                    2. So a long record of peace doesn’t have to be peaceful. The Newspeak is strong with you, Shiteater.

                    3. He’s here to lie and shitpost, R Mac. It doesn’t matter if it doesn’t make sense as long as the job gets done.

              2. KMW claimed this was the first non peaceful transfer. Nobody else did. Take up your beef with her.

                1. “A 2014 study in the journal Comparative Political Studies found by examining thousands of transitions going back to 1788 that 68 countries had never had a peaceful transfer of power.”

                  I think she clearly said the opposite! NON-peaceful transfers have been QUITE common! Be careful what you wish for, trumpanzees gone apeshit!

                  1. In the USA, you fucking inbred chimp.

                    1. “KMW claimed this was the first non peaceful transfer.”

                      Please tell us where she wrote that? Voices in your head don’t count!

                    2. Our long record of peaceful transfers of power

                    3. Now come on sarc, give me some more Newspeak to laugh at.

          2. The Civil War was started by Demorrhoids who wanted to keep their slaves.

            They’re still racist now, and added anti-semitic officially when Demorrhoid F Delano Roosevelt refused to allow Jewish refugees from Germany and put Asians in concentration camps.

            That’s before they re-elected a Klansman for life.

            There is no such thing as a non-racist, non-anti-semitic Demorrhoid. It is the party of bigotry and hate.

    2. “Police injured, more than 200 arrested at Trump inauguration protests in DC”

      Is that a ‘paint-by-numbers’ headline for TDS-addled lefty shits to fill in?

  10. Mostly peaceful.

  11. No history book will mention Trump without the QAnon shaman. That will be his legacy.

    1. When I’m not slurping the blood off the tip of a baby’s freshly circumcised penis, I too like to insult the religious beliefs of rural rubes who voted for Trump.

      1. Whoa! I just now had a MOST brilliant idea! Too bad that the past is the past, is the unchangeable past… My idea is TOO late for the 6 millions Jews that Hitler and the NAZIs killed! (Sad to say. But it is NOT too late yet, to learn our lessons going forward!).

        My idea is THIS: Those 6 millions would NOT have had to die, if they had ONLY been wearing magic underwear!

        We ALL need to start wearing our magic underwear NOW, dammit! For good measure, to be REALLY safe, we should also join, and give ALL of our money too, Scientology!!!

        1. Did another Cohen accidentally clip too much off? What’s with all the kvetching? By the way, the first people to be systematically murdered by the Nazi government were the mentally retarded but you never hear about that because most secular or Reformed Jews have not problem with murdering innocents. Some even celebrate abortion as a way to say “fuck you” to the “patriarchy”.

        2. Fuck off sarc.

          SQRLSY One
          February.8.2021 at 5:59 pm
          Your gist two smart fur the wrist of U.S.A.!

          sarcasmic
          February.8.2021 at 4:46 pm
          Day stow dee ewekshun! Waaaaah!

          1. Chemjeff = sarasmic = SQRSLY = Killallrednecks

            1. Yep – the magic underwear a dead giveaway.

    2. sanctimonious. God youre a pathetic person. You still cheer on the BLM riots as mostly peaceful besides being far more damaging. Youre a useful idiot like your sock is.

  12. I guess the DC riots during Trump’s inauguration has already been memoryholed.

    1. The Pussy Riots in D.C. after Trump’s election were mostly passive aggressive.

      1. And not a single sandwich was made.

    2. KMW breaking out the airbrush, like every Stalinist ever.

  13. You’re the editor of this site and its companion magazine, your story mentioned at least twice the death toll and you still can’t get it correct.

    “But it ended in multiple violent deaths in the halls of Congress….” WRONG. Only one person was killed in the Halls of Congress, Ashli Babbitt, murdered by a Capitol Police lieutenant, all caught on cell phone video and all over the internet.

    Your publication should be looking into that murder. Your publication should be on that murder just like it was regarding the murder of Rhogena Nicholas and David Tuttle in Houston.

    Most of the other deaths were from protestors succumbing to medical conditions, and the cause of death of the Capitol police sergeant has not yet been released to the public, although there is a lot of press speculation without evidence that the officer suffered head trauma during the protests.

    1. Yep an astonishing amount of crickets on Ashli Babbitt

      The guy with all kinds of backup just walks up and shoots her. No attempt at use on non-deadly force.

      Yet we don’t know the guys name and there are no endless stories discussing whether the shooting was justified.

      She seems to be the wrong skin color as far as these things go

      1. She seems to be the wrong skin color as far as these things go

        Nichols and Tuttle were the same color as Babbit. Which makes it worse than your run-of-the-mill systemic racism issue because it validates the white supremacists; it’s never OK to kill a black man, even if he’s armed and a violent threat/multiple offender, but it’s OK to kill an unarmed white female veteran for believing in the wrong ideas.

        1. Seems to be the Reason position.

    2. “…cause of death of the Capitol police sergeant…”

      Correction, “…Capitol police officer….”

    3. What is there to talk about?

      From a libertarian perspective, Ashli Babbett was trespassing, and the officers were totally justified to shoot trespassers. Again from a libertarian perspective, the officers would have been justified in shooting every single trespasser. That would not have been wise or prudent, of course.

      They were all trespassers trying to be where they weren’t supposed to be.

      1. “From a libertarian perspective, Ashli Babbett was trespassing, and the officers were totally justified to shoot trespassers. Again from a libertarian perspective, the officers would have been justified in shooting every single trespasser.”

        WTF are you talking about? The Death Penalty for “trespassing?”

        1. That is what murderous leftists think libertarians believe.

        2. He isnt a libertarian.

        3. FROM A LIBERTARIAN PERSPECTIVE, lethal force is justified in the defense of one’s property.

          1. The government building is the public’s property idiot.

            1. No. The state owns the property, not “the people”. It is not collectively owned.

          2. If any citizen in DC shot and killed an unarmed intruder into the shooter’s property, they’d be facing charges.

          3. Well, Capitol Police do not operate in accordance with Libertarian Perspectives®, they operate under federal and/or DC laws and established Department policy. NONE of which authorize the Death Penalty for trespassing.

            This was a bad shoot. Yet it will be whitewashed and the shooter will get off scot free.

        4. If someone trespasses on your property, are you justified in shooting them? Yes or no?

          1. No. The Capitol Building is owned by the people.

            1. No, it is owned by the state.

              If it is owned by “the people” then why can’t I sell my share of the Washington Monument? Hmm?

          2. No you are not, it takes more than being there to justify shooting.

          3. The taxpayer funded US Capitol building isn’t your property. Even assuming it was, if you voluntarily let the “trespassers” onto your property and then shoot them, that’s not a home defense shooting, that’s just murder. The Capitol cops let Ashli Babbitt into the building. It’s on video.

          4. Time to revisit the distinction between ownership and supervision.

          5. It depends upon governing State law. Some states have a “stand your ground” law that permits the use of deadly force, but the conditions and circumstances for stand your ground laws, which differ slightly from state to state, apply to an individual person’s home. The Capitol building is not anyone’s home.

      2. Lol. Jeff thinks cops can shoot unarmed trespassers. Saving this fucking link every time you open your God damn idiot mouth.

        1. Fuck off and go back to Breitbart, where you are regarded as an intellectual titan.

          1. You’re regarded as a dishonest piece of shit here.

            1. Speak for yourself, trumpanzee gone apeshit!

              By trumpanzees gone apeshit, chemjeff is regarded as a dishonest piece of shit! Now THAT would be more accurate! HONEST and BENEVOLENT freedom-lovers LIKE the comments of chemjeff!!!

              1. You’re regarded as a shit eating retard, shit eating retard.

          2. You think cops can shoot unarmed protestors.

            1. Those of who live in reality, know that cops can strangle unarmed blacks to death (look up “Eric Garner”). And reality-dwellers who have read these comments for a while, also know that Der JesseBahnFuhrer can (has been known to) drum up hatred of BLM protestors, strongly implying (or stating) that all of BLM is “Marxist”.

              1. Eric Garner was told he was being arrested, waved his hand and said, “Nah, I’m not going to jail today,” as if it was an invitation, and then used his porky pig mass to fight an entire squad of cops who were there because he’d done this before, who were supervised by a black female sergeant.

                No racism was involved.

                Not all of BLM is Marxist, but the white urban cocksuckers who show up to “support” it certainly are.

                1. Eric Garner committed the triple crime of existing while being big, black, and male! Then he topped all of THAT off, by refusing to cop-dick-suck at the drop of a hat! Imagine THAT!

                  Yes, I could see how LOW (Lawn Odor Worshipping) assholes can regard all of that as justifying Garner being strangled to death, right there on the spot!

            2. And this is where you have twisted and distorted what I said into something else. Because you are a dishonest lying asshole.

      3. The interesting question is are those associated with Ashli Babett culpable for her death.
        I know that if a member of a group committing a crime, say bank robbery, and the police shoot a member of the group. The police are not culpable as it was justified and the others involved in the crime can be charged with murder of the deceased individual.
        So in this case the police will be justified, just look at the tape and note that police were maimed and killed. Does that open those with Ashli Babett to some type of murder charge? I think yes, but it is unlikely they will be charged.

        1. “The interesting question is are those associated with Ashli Babett culpable for her death.”

          The interesting question is how a TDS-addled piece of shit like you manages to get his shoe laced tied.

          1. Pretty sure M4E is a Velcro guy.

        2. I am FEELING the libertarianism running over.

        3. The question would be valid if the shoot was justified, which it was not.

      4. BY that logic, Rusten Sheskey should get a medal

      5. The same people who are crying about that Air Force woman would jump for joy if cops machinegunned BLM protestors.

        Principals, not principles.

        1. Hey look, sarc’s making up bullshit again.

        2. Can you name one person who did that? I can name somebody who claims that cops shooting trespassers is justified.

        3. There’s two who would jump out of their seats and scream “Yes!” if the cops mowed down leftist protestors. Don’t deny it.

          1. No, but if cops and leftists mowed each other down, I might get some popcorn.

        4. Ummm pretty certain the disagreement has been lack of arrests. Not lack of indiscriminate slaughter.

      6. You can trespass private property. She was in Congress. Commenly referred to as the people’s house. There’s no flat dispassionate “libertarian” perspective on Ashli Babbitt and certainly not one as simple as “she was trespassing.” She was there under first amendment grounds to petition her elected officials, a constitutional right, and she’s on video being let into the building by police officers.

      7. “From a libertarian perspective, Ashli Babbett was trespassing, and the officers were totally justified to shoot trespassers.”

        The penalty for trespass is DEATH?

        Seriously?

        1. Libertarian moment!

      8. From a libertarian perspective, Ashli Babbett was trespassing, and the officers were totally justified to shoot trespassers.

        How can you trespass in a public building that’s open to tourists?

      9. From a truly libertarian perspective, that property is the taxpayers’, and she couldn’t have been trespassing.

        From a different libertarian perspective, that property was stolen (taxation), and therefore can’t be owned by the government in the first place.

        1. Oh FFS people.

          If the property is owned by “the people” then why can’t I sell or transfer title to my share of the Washington Monument, or any other “publicly owned” piece of property?

          If the property is owned by “the people” then why can’t you walk into Nancy Pelosi’s office any time you like?

          What is called “public property” is actually owned by the state, which is a separate and distinct institution from some collective known as “the people”. Because genuine ownership in a piece of property means a recognizable financial interest in that piece of property.

          The state, like any other institution capable of owning property, hires bodyguards, known as officers, to protect its property from unlawful trespass. Ashli Babbett and every other person there inside the building were trespassing.

          This is not difficult. And I am not surprised that the usual suspects are demagoguing this to death.

          1. The state, like any other institution capable of owning property, hires bodyguards, known as officers, to protect its property from unlawful trespass.

            What was unlawful about it?

    4. Yeah, that’s really irritating. There was one person deliberately harmed and she was shot by police. Another may have had a reaction to a bump on the head, but even that is not clear. The other 2 or 3 just happened to die that day. You get a big crowd of worked up people, many of whom are not too young, that’s somewhat expected. But it’s always presented as if all the deaths were somehow the result of violence, which is clearly not the case for all except one or two.

  14. The people who believe that a few hundred (or thousand, depending on who you ask) protestors/rioters/you-pick-its could have overthrown the U.S. government reflects their poor opinion of the resilience of both the government and democracy.

    1. Rule #1: Never let a crisis go to waste.

      1. Yeah. John Brown tried to start an actual armed conflict. The dudebros at the Capitol left their guns in their trucks and just walked around shouting for a bit and tossing tear gas cans back at the cops who threw them.

    2. John Brown attacked at Harper’s Ferry had only 18 people. It made the history books and they hanged John Brown. I don’t expect that to happen to the conspirators here, but they will go done in history with the like of Timothy McVeigh and other home grown terrorist.

      1. “…but they will go done in history with the like of Timothy McVeigh and other home grown terrorist.”

        Only if those reading the book are TDS-addled shits like you,

      2. Truly amazing.

      3. So, you’re using a failed attempt to start a race war as evidence that the US government can be overthrown by 18 people?

        1. No I am suggesting that a small group can and have been tried as trying to overthrow the government.

          Was John Brown trying to start a race war or was he trying to procure arms for a rebellion of enslaved people? Think you are a little off on your history here.

          1. Was John Brown trying to start a race war or was he trying to procure arms for a rebellion of enslaved people?

            Same difference in this case.

            1. Where are you learning history? I think of race wars as Colfax, LA (1873), Tulsa, OK (1921), and Rosewood, Fl (1923), among others where whites attempted to exterminate there black neighbors. John Brown wanted a slave rebellion against their masters, much as the founders rebelled against England.

              1. It’s telling that you think only whites can commit race wars.

      4. You know nothing of John Brown or Timothy McVeigh. You’re just an idiot.

      5. John Brown attacked, with the intent of actually killing people if need be. If that was the intent of the capitol invaders, then the were really bad at it.

    3. Just because they couldn’t succeed doesn’t mean they didn’t know they couldn’t succeed or that they didn’t try.

      1. Sell that steaming pile of shit to M4e; he’s stupid enough to buy it.

      2. So what? If I believe that I can overthrow the government by slamming my dick in a toilet seat, and then proceed to slam my dick in the toilet seat with the intent of overthrowing the government, am I guilty of insurrection?

  15. The fact is Trump violated norms and rituals throughout his Presidency and the his refusal to accept the election results was merely the cumulation of these violated norms. He told us that he would not accept the election and to many did not listen. Fortunately this country is made up of good people who would not be corrupted and did their duty. Many of these will be casualties to the Trump Presidency as much as those who died on January 6th. Even now they are being censured and harassed.

    History will honor these people as much as it will shred Trump.

    1. Don’t forget! He also grabbed the pussy of one of the Vestal Virgins.

    2. The fact is the left violated norms for the entirety of the trump presidency through their active resistance, spying, lawsuits, falsified FISAs, etc. Youre too far left to care.

      1. They’re violating norms now.
        They are fundamentally anti-American, and anti-Americans.
        The US died 11.4.2020, when the process of elective government was violated by traitorous officials.
        The question now is what comes next.

        1. You wanna know when things really took a turn for the worse?

          When the right-wing crowd decided to co-opt the term “patriot” for themselves. That only a “true patriot” or “real Murican” was someone who shared right-wing beliefs. People who disagreed with right-wing orthodoxy were not just wrong, but un-American traitors. That is when things really started to fall apart. You all need to shut up and learn to live with people you disagree with. The people you disagree with aren’t un-American traitors who want to kill you. They are people who have a different vision for what America is. You need to get off Twitter and get off social media and actually talk with your Biden-voting neighbor for a change instead of listening to the stereotypes. The two of you should have a beer and chat about things instead of wanting to kill each other.

          1. Here’s where Lying Jeffy makes up a nice little story for himself.

          2. I thought protest was the highest form of patriotism?

          3. “When the right-wing crowd decided to co-opt the term “patriot” for themselves. ”

            Didn’t so much “co-opt” as take a term that had been sullied by people who loathe the country and decided to clean it up and wear it with pride.

            “That only a “true patriot” or “real Murican” was someone who shared right-wing beliefs.”

            Not a STEADFAST rule but more a solid rule of thumb.

            “You all need to shut up and learn to live with people you disagree with.”

            But OUR PRIVATE PLATFORMS have the right to call you whatever they want, right?

            “The people you disagree with aren’t un-American traitors who want to kill you.”

            They say they do and I’m not one to just assume they’re kidding.

            “You need to get off Twitter and get off social media and actually talk with your Biden-voting neighbor for a change instead of listening to the stereotypes.”

            Why would I want to talk to those fucking idiots?

          4. You all need to shut up and learn to live with people you disagree with.

            That would be great if the other side felt the same.

          5. You need to get off Twitter and get off social media and actually talk with your Biden-voting neighbor for a change instead of listening to the stereotypes.

            You mean like that bitch Virginia Heffernan who flipped out about her Trump-voting neighbors being nice and clearing the snow from her driveway?

          6. That’s a whole lot of lefty talking points there, Lefty Jeffy.

          7. Doesn’t help that much of the left have given up even trying to be patriotic and now just wants to say how terrible and evil a country this is.

          8. You wanna know when things really took a turn for the worse?

            I know you aren’t smart enough to even provide an answer worth reading, but I’m glad I read it. It’s honestly the funniest thing I’ve read in a long time. Seriously, you should take a bow or something.

            L O f**king L

      2. WHATABOUT THE LEFT??????????

        LOOK MY NAME’S JESSE, I CANNOT TALK ABOUT RIGHT-WING STUFF EXCEPT RELATIVE TO LEFT-WING STUFF

        1. As opposed to you, who just parrots left wing bullshit all the time. Club to the head is the only solution. You’ll be fine, though. There are no brains left to beat out anyway so it will just make a hollow thud sound.

    3. You heard it here first, guys! Norms Trump the constitution!

      Never mind that the constitution nowhere gives the media the power to declare the victor of an election. It is norm breaking for us to challenge the Nov decision as announced by media apparatuses and all candidates must concede before December.

      1. Where you born yesterday, the media makes calls in all election, 2020 was not the first. The media call has nothing to do with the actual process. That process was followed and Joe Biden won the Presidency. During that process Trump has ample opportunity to challenge the results. When the challenge process was over the loser, Trump, has a obligation to step aside. Trump did not do that because he thought that the Constitution does apply to him. He violated his oath of office when he failed to accept a peaceful transfer of power.

        1. It isn’t constitutional. Are you brain dead? You are giving unconstitutional authority to an apparatus that should not have that authority.

          Just because it’s how it has always been done does not make it constitutional and immune to challenge.

          1. Yeah, I’m pretty sure the first amendment means anyone can call the presidential election anytime they want for whomever they want. Not saying it’s not a problem, acting like it’s all finished when there are active challenges and the EC hasn’t voted yet is bad journalism, but it absolutely is Constitutional.

        2. Pretty sure that what Donald Trump was wanting to see happen in Congress, that day, was part of the legitimate effort to object to the election results. Something that the left had done in several past elections, and that had a process outlined for what was to follow if enough Congresscritters agreed.
          It may have been the last effort he could have made but he did allow the transfer of power happen, after that effort failed; one not requiring any non-peaceful activities.
          So the article is full of shit.
          A peaceful transition occurred.
          A bunch of people, committed to causing unrest, had really nothing to do with that transition.

    4. “The fact is Trump violated norms and rituals throughout his Presidency…”

      Poor TDS-addled shit had to think about things, and for M4e, that’s tough! A POTUS shouldn’t require M4 e to THINK, for pete’s sake.

    5. The fact is Trump violated norms and rituals throughout his Presidency

      You mean he didn’t roll over and show his belly to the media like a Republican is supposed to do?

      What specific “norms and rituals” are you referring to here?

      1. One could make a long list, but let’s start with treating people respectfully. I was taught by my parents and teachers to treat others with respect. Treat people as you would want them to treat you.

        By the way, Trump roll over on his belly to many people. He did it to Putin, Kim Jung-un, Xi Jinping. Basically anyone equal to him or who played to his ego. But those who criticized were attacked.

        1. One could make a long list

          Which you pointedly avoided.

          but let’s start with treating people respectfully. I was taught by my parents and teachers to treat others with respect.

          Politicians treat people like shit all the time, and they do so both publicly and in private. Trump’s crudeness isn’t even unique to the Presidency, much less most other American politicians.

          He did it to Putin, Kim Jung-un, Xi Jinping. Basically anyone equal to him or who played to his ego.

          I asked for legitimate responses, not the bullshit fantasias you’re getting from NPR.

  16. A couple of police suicides also. Unusual don’t you think? All last year we had poice being assaulted and some killed but suicides?

    Were they actual suicides or Clinton/Epstein suicides?

    1. Suicide is always fairly high among cops compared to the general population.

      1. That’s one of those facts that’s sort of true…. it’s true that police have a statistically significant higher incidence rate of suicide as compared to the general population, but this only accounts for a very small number of actual LEOs. This is because the total number of suicides is very low compared to overall deaths in a population the size of the US.

        IE – it’s true, but it’s blown out of proportion for those who try to use it as a negative against LEOs.

        1. That’s why I said “compared to”. And yeah, there was some claim a while ago that cops had the highest rate of suicide, but that was debunked.

          I don’t know how that’s a dig at cops. I have plenty of reasons not to be a fan of the police in general, but that’s not one. Seems more like something people sympathetic to police would cite.

  17. Why do neolibertarian magazine editors hate the 1A?

    Image result for first amendment text
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    1. Because this neolibertarian magazine now has an asterisk next to it.

  18. Why should it be peaceful. We now have irreconcilable differences. The party now in power wants to pass laws to attack 1st and 2nd Amendment freedoms vs. American citizens that still want their natural rights protected. There is no compromise between those 2 positions. Civil War is next.

    1. +1000

    2. Okay, Internet Tough Guy, then get it started. You and damikesc and Nardz and shithead, start your own Citizen’s Battalion and start the offensive. What are you waiting for?

      1. You said cops can kill people for trespassing.

        1. Maybe the Citizen’s Battallion can put you in charge of the 1st Armored Meme Brigade.

          1. A big old cartoon club right to the head. Caveman style.

            1. boop. thud. peace

      2. Why don’t you just shut up about this stupid schoolyard taunt of yours. “Whataya going to do about it?!?!? Huh?!?!?!”

        Or keep it up, but know it shows you to be dumber each time you use it against people just trying to analyze a dynamic situation.

        For now it just shows you to be a weak idiot.

        1. Sounds like an “incitement” to me.
          At least more of an “incitement” than anything that came out of Donald Trump’s mouth…ever.

    3. And they, nazisoviets that they are, will consider you a terrorist and treat you as such no matter your actions or lack thereof.

      Chemjeff, would you like to meet and test your theory?

      1. Why, so you can murder me while claiming it was for the cause of some bullshit revolution?

        Besides, you’re probably some 60-year-old guy who weighs about 500 pounds, with COPD and diabetes, and gets around in a Hoveround strapped to an oxygen tank, while living off of SSDI checks. You probably couldn’t hit a barn at ten feet.

        1. Here’s Lying Jeffy making up a cute little story for himself.

          1. Is he making up a story, or just projecting?

            1. He did admit he was fat…

              1. This week on Clowntard: Radial Obesity:

                Jeff’s projection continues unabated in both physical and psychological dimensions.

                1. Literally loled.

        2. “so you can murder me”

          Bitch, please. You’ll kill yourself long before anything pops off. Being a fat faggot is going to be hard in the new world. LOL

        3. “Why, so you can murder me while claiming it was for the cause of some bullshit revolution?”

          We only have to claim trespass, right?

        4. Besides, you’re probably some 60-year-old guy who weighs about 500 pounds,

          That’s pretty rich coming from a candidate for My 600-Pound Life.

  19. “At the very least, our long record of peaceful transfers of power now has an asterisk on it, and there’s reason to fear worse in the future.”

    It is almost as if the Reason staff forgot all of American history January 6, 2021.

    What an embarrassment of a publication.

    1. Reason Magazine: all totalitarian agitprop, all the time

  20. KMW writes for the oligarchy. The hoi polloi in the commentariat matters not to her.

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  22. It looks like the left is finally getting that revolution they’ve been crying for the last 50 years.

    Now that they’ve realized they’re going to be on the business end of it, they’re not so enthusiastic.

  23. I’m gonna have to start flagging that SQRL guy, Jesus Christ his ravings are like half the comments here.

    1. Someone had to take over Hihn’s niche.

    2. It would be a lot easier to ignore if people were less obsessed with piling on every comment he makes.

  24. Government is violence, and shows little qualms about doing its thing over the slightest of reasons.

    At some point, you should expect the people to do the same.

  25. The outgoing Obama administration spied on the Trump campaign and continued to do so post inauguration. They laid the groundwork to investigate Trump on baseless Russia claims for 3 years. The asterisk isn’t Trump’s. It’s Obama’s.

    By comparison a few people participating in first amendment speech at the Capitol, and scuffling with cops is not only not unprecedented, it happened in DC all summer without drawing a fraction of the outrage Jan 6 has from Reason.

    1. All mostly peaceful protesters are equal, but some mostly peaceful protesters are more equal than others.

  26. “…So how to account for what happened at the Capitol on January 6? It was a violent, inept attempt to disrupt one of the civil rituals that mark—and celebrate—peaceful transition…”

    Except for the violence being mostly by the cops, it was that; It’s called “protesting” most always, except when the protesters are Trump-supporters.
    You account for it by admitting the opinions of those folks (the ‘deplorables’) have been ignored and/or demeaned by you and the media in general for four years.

  27. The framing of this really bugs me. I mean sure, the storming of the capital wasn’t a high point in american history…but is this really the asterisk? The first time something like this has happened? No.

    Also the claim that 5 people died as a result of the violence is not true. Yes 5 people died, but 3 were medical emergencies and 1 is COD not yet released (Sicknick, the cop who is popularly thought to have died from an extinguisher to the head but there have been statements otherwise and COD has not yet been released). Only 1 person was killed violently, and that is the protestor that was shot.

    1. Had more of Trump’s voters been willing to kill and be killed to stop the steal, he might still be president. One person willing to make the ultimate sacrifice out of over 70 million shows that the dedication to the cause doesn’t go further than the internet bluster on display here.

      1. Troll, and a poor one.

        1. Disingenuous internet bluster and insult is the most you can manage.

    1. Just another example that Reason has become a progressive propaganda outlet.

      1. Koch has gotten awfully tight with Soros, after all.

  28. https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

    I like how they admitted to absolutely everything that was claimed, except for anything that a court would have no choice but to take up as a crime (everything but ballot stuffing). After all, now that they’ve admitted to this conspiracy, there’s absolutely no way they did that, right? That’d be CRAZY!

    I was trying to figure out a reason they’d admit to this, and the best I could come up with is this is a “we’ve always been at war with East-Asia (but it’s a just war)” thing. They knew even 20% of Democrats realized something like this was happening, and wrote this in an attempt to control the narrative of it so it seemed legitimate. After all, they only made this conspiracy to “fortify democracy” against that other guy who was trying to save it! (I also like the part where they imply it’s really hard to fraudulently vote absentee! Signatures are so very hard to scribble, after all!)

    This is the biggest news since the breakup of the Soviet Union, and almost everyone is ignoring it.

    Sadly, I see lots of dead Americans in the not-too-distant future. I wish it were not so.

    -An An-Cap who wouldn’t have voted for Trump with a gun to his head

    1. After all, now that they’ve admitted to this conspiracy, there’s absolutely no way they did that, right? That’d be CRAZY!

      “Yes, we absolutely rigged the election, and anyone claiming otherwise is a conspiracy theorist.” It’s like they thought Squealer’s apologias were something to be emulated instead of seen for the disingenuous defense of the pigs that it was.

  29. Still waiting for a comment on the biggest story of the decade. I’m not even going to demand a libertarian opinion. Given up on that. Just a comment. Just a nod… a notation that what happened happened.

    1. Still waiting for a comment on the biggest story of the decade.

      Oh, just wait, the decade’s only gotten started.

  30. Our long record of peaceful transfers of power now has an asterisk on it.

    Long record? Go back far enough and you might realize that the country was founded on what would’ve otherwise been an asterisk on a peaceful transfer of power you dumb shit.

    1. I remember back when Reason was pretty good at throwing cold water on “this is ENTIRELY UNPRECEDENTED” stories that popped up in the establishment media.

  31. “But it ended in multiple violent deaths in the halls of Congress”

    Nope. One death shot by an unidentified government agent.

    The others later, most likely by natural causes. The capitol police officers cause of death was never released.

    Stop repeating democrat lies.

  32. Oh, by the way, throughout the entire “fraud!” screeching from the Trump supporters, I remained very quiet, because I felt it was a tough claim to prove with a high bar.

    I definitely believed there were ‘irregularities’ worth exploring– and the more the media pushed back on even asking questions, the more uncomfortable I became.

    But after what I’ve seen over the last couple of weeks, including reviewing the media reports on irregularities from MSNBC (MSNBC!), I am now convinced that not only were there enough irregularities to suggest that this election was stolen, I now believe they had the means and the will to engage in targeted fraud in places like Michigan and Georgia.

    And I strongly recommend everyone watch this video before it gets removed by a silicon valley billionaire whom we now know met with Biden officials before the election to ‘craft the narrative’.

    1. Yes, but DOL has a link to an article that said that those weren’t actually suitcases, but bins, so…debunked.

    2. Better archive that shit.

    3. I definitely believed there were ‘irregularities’ worth exploring– and the more the media pushed back on even asking questions, the more uncomfortable I became.

      And I’d say still worth exploring. The unidirectional progressive shift of the grab bag of mail in ballots in swing states as the night went on isn’t just a statistical impossibility, it demonstrates a methodological error and a potential weakness as well. Like if successive powerball jackpot numbers came up 1,2,3,4,5,6,7; 8,9,10,11,12,13,14; etc. Even if I were pissed off that some poor hobo won and it were absolutely true that poor people played the lotto disproportinately, that doesn’t change the fact that the improbable sequence of numbers is a sign of anything between manipulation and procedural error. I’m still completely willing to accept that there is/was no manipulation and even that there was no cognizance or culpability of any procedural error. 0.00% guilt anywhere. That still leaves open the possibility in the next election for someone to monitor the trends, adjust methods, bias results, etc. It makes it dead simple in the next powerball drawing for someone to claim their ticket of 15,16,17,18,19,20,21 is legitimate even well before the next drawing.

      The fact that multiple courts/judges looked at that data and said it wasn’t worth investigating is, itself a crime. Like finding a dead body on the banks of the river and saying we don’t need to conduct an investigation into how/why they died. Just accept the fact that dead bodies are going to wash up on the banks of the river, it’s the new normal.

      1. I’m still completely willing to accept that there is/was no manipulation and even that there was no cognizance or culpability of any procedural error. 0.00% guilt anywhere.

        I’m not so willing to accept that.

        Given the video whose authenticity no one has questioned, coupled with MSNBCs admission that counting went on into the night with no election observers or press present, even going to far as to admit that the fate of the nation rested in the hands of just 5 people (how can there be fraud when you’d have to get to thousands of people?!!!).

        How hard do you think it would be for a very small number of committed Biden supporters, who would happily do something illegal for free, to pre-sort a large # of ballots, identify the Biden votes, then run those pre-sorted stacks through the machines multiples of times?

        We have suburban middle class moms and working lawyers willing to lock people in occupied buildings and set them alight, but that very simple process of fraud is impossible!

        And when no one is verifying signatures or voters, run the ballots as many times as you can.

        The video clearly shows the women running and re-running and re-re-running stacks of ballots through the machines. The only remaining question is: was there a legitimate reason for them to do so?

        And now that we can’t verify a single signature or voter because of the 11th hour rule changes… it’s done. We’ve witnessed what I believe to be a fraudulent election.

        1. The problem with these “they COULD HAVE engaged in fraud!” arguments is that they are nonfalsifiable. Because it is impossible to prove that they COULDN’T have engaged in fraud, can’t prove a negative. That is what makes them conspiracy theories. Yes it is absolutely possible that poll workers in Michigan or Georgia or elsewhere COULD HAVE engaged in fraud. There are many things that are POSSIBLE. But just because something is possible doesn’t mean that it actually happened. If we have no clear evidence that something actually did occur then we have no firm basis to claim that the thing actually did occur.

          How hard do you think it would be for a very small number of committed Biden supporters, who would happily do something illegal for free, to pre-sort a large # of ballots, identify the Biden votes, then run those pre-sorted stacks through the machines multiples of times?

          Perhaps not that hard. Do we know it happened? If we don’t know that it did happen, then what is the point?

          Perhaps a small band of Trump supporters manufactured votes for Trump in a place like North Carolina, where he won very narrowly. How do we know that it didn’t happen? As you say it wouldn’t be that hard to do. How do we know? Should we investigate and audit until we find that “smoking gun” that we are CERTAIN is there?

          If we drift away from what we actually observe, to hypothetical scenarios of small bands of operatives manipulating votes in the absence of any clear evidence that this happened, then there is no limit to the amount of perfidy that we can suppose took place anywhere for any reason.

          1. How do we know? Should we investigate and audit until we find that “smoking gun” that we are CERTAIN is there?

            Why not? I don’t see a problem with doing an enematic audit of every single state and county’s election processes and results. Sunshine is the best disinfectant, right?

            1. Because, like the Pentagon, the election system will fail audit. FUBAR

          2. We should audit and investigate the hell out of it. If it was clean, it should help convince those still on the fence. If it was dirty, we should damn well find out. And if it’s impossible to tell either way, that’s a problem too and changes should be made to make it possible to more thoroughly audit an election.

            1. Yeah, this whole “well, sure fraud happens sometimes, but not enough to sway an election!” is a deliberately obtuse remark regarding election integrity. The point is that it shouldn’t happen at all, and in close races, confidence that the result was clean and legitimate is what ensures the continuation of that system.

              1. That’s the point I try to keep making. Even if they are completely wrong and stupid, if 1/3 of the electorate thinks something is wrong with elections, you need to at least try to address it or this is what every election will be like. Which may be a feature to some, it looks like.

                1. They know it was illegitimate, and they want it to remain so.
                  At some point you have to try to understand the nature of the people we’re dealing with here.

          3. If we drift away from what we actually observe,

            I haven’t drifted from what I observed. I didn’t hypothesize vague scenarios. I didn’t even suggest that what I observed would overturn the election. I just pointed out that, in a fair and random system as presented, what I observed wouldn’t occur. That the system isn’t fair or random is a completely valid conclusion and such a statement speaks for itself.

            Should we investigate and audit until we find that “smoking gun” that we are CERTAIN is there?

            I pointed at the smoking gun/corpse floating on the river. That you’re saying “Oh, we’re supposed to just investigate every gunshot and every corpse that floats down the river?” explains the degree to which you care about freedom, honesty, the rule of law, etc., etc.

            1. in a fair and random system as presented

              That’s the problem here. Mail-in ballots are not random. One side deliberately tried to encourage their voters to use them, while the other side deliberately trashed and discouraged their voters from using them. The assumption that mail-in ballots would be randomly distributed among Team Red and Team Blue is a faulty assumption.

        2. We’ve witnessed what I believe to be a fraudulent election.

          Fraud involves intent. A lack of intent doesn’t mean it isn’t a mistaken election and even if it is a mistaken election, it should be guarded against. For all the property we seize because there *could* be a crime, for all the boots we keep on the ground around the world because there *could* be a war, for all the safeguards we put in place because the President *could* accidentally press the button, for all the calls to defund police officers who *could* be closet white supremacists, to have such blatant disregard for the statistical evidence that something unnatural *happened* is a bigger threat to democracy than any of the above.

  33. The problem with your argument is a basic assumption about the important of and influence of government in our daily lives. That has NEVER been true. For many people, elections are life or death matters as the scope and scale of government has expanded to the point that executive orders can destroy tens of thousands of jobs in a single swipe of the pen. You can’t get mad at people for taking this seriously when government interferes to this degree in our lives, especially when only one of the major parties seems remotely concerned with limiting the overreach of government.

    1. ^THIS +100000000000000

    2. ya this ^^

    3. ….. theoretically Republicans don’t interfere with your lives actually they gave that up 50 years ago. The duopoly is a complete fucking joke when it comes to freedom.

  34. I guess the first question that comes to mind is
    “and whose fault it that then?”

    1. IS that…. whose fault IS that?

  35. This will be the only thing anyone will remember about Trump, and it’s his own fault.

  36. This will be the only thing anyone will remember about Trump, and it’s his own fault. The left wing media salivates over the thought of ‘far right violence’ and Trump and his minions handed it to them on a silver platter. Dumb.

    1. Sort of. It was pretty damn mild as far as violence goes. If people fretted as much about the far left violence that has been pretty much non-stop for most of the past year, shit would look pretty different.

      1. Yeah, the idea that history is going to look back at 2020 in 2070 and say “We, in our current day, can’t comprehend the carnage Trump unleashed over the election results.” is pretty laughably retarded.

  37. Call it what it was, Ms. Ward: a sit-in.

  38. This all really has boiled down to Repubs defending awfulness and absurdity by denouncing Dems’ reaction to the awfulness and absurdity all while Dems are defending their reaction of Orwellian and authoritarian BS to the Repub awfulness and absurdity.

    In the end, there really are no winners.

  39. I hope that someone on Trumps team argues that protesters were “incited” by their censorship and the censorship of the sitting president of the United States, by unelected media oligarchs violating 1a in the interest of the democrats.

  40. for fuck’s sake we got the place by killing a bunch of British. the purple hair saves you.

    1. Not just that, but by deliberately targeting their officers too – something that really broke norms, and wS considered fighting dirty.

  41. Glad that Trump is not President, Sad that Biden is President. Didn’t vote for either of the Rebublicrat candidates. The riot in DC was not a coup in spite of the hyperbole.

    Much that the Anti-Trump crowd is complaining about the Pro-Trump crowd was occurring 4 years ago when Trump won. Unfortunately people are either hypocrites or failing memories.

    There is a double standard in the corporate media and a majority of institutions. Lately it has become increasingly overt and hostile towards anyone that does not kowtow to the leftist almighty state.

    Words are redefined to lambast and label 50% of the citizens equating with evil incarnate for political aims. There is no wonder that a large number of people are reacting to the constant onslaught of attacks.

    The left created the opportunity for Trump to gain power. The left is doubling down by increasing their attacks on anyone that is not left enough. They pretend in the safety of the mob that they exempt to the authoritarian state, lacking the capacity to realize that they are giving up their freedoms as well.

    I have disagreed with all of the violent protests that past 12 months. I however celebrate all of the protests when they have been peaceful. It time for the disaffected from the left and the right to stop dutifully acting their parts faithful to their Republicrat puppet masters.

  42. The stomping and whining and complaining and raiding of the Capitol building done by Trump supporters was embarrassing, but if you don’t think the country would have gone into complete nuclear meltdown had Trump won you’re kidding yourself. The riots we saw across cities in America this summer would have been nothing compared to the absolute batshit crazy violence the left and the progressive whack jobs would have put upon our country had they lost the election and they came less than 100,000 votes Nationwide from doing just that. The piety and arrogance that the progressive mainstream walks around exuding is super unattractive.

  43. Pravda gets da zgooood potatoes

  44. Put an asterisk next to the voting fraud. We had ballots being sent out to all registered with no chain of custody anywhere in the process. We had incidents of vote counting going on without observers. Every incident of questionable activity was written off by the Democrats and their main stream media lapdogs as innocuous and no need to investigate what happened out of sight.

    This isn’t journalism, it’s propaganda. I don’t know much about Katherine Mangu-Ward but I do know she isn’t a journalist.

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