The Armed March That Wasn't
In Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, the biggest story was all the reporters looking for a story.

I was standing outside the state capitol in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, where gun-toting defenders of President Donald Trump were supposedly going to start marching at noon. I could see cops, I could see National Guardsmen, and I could see dozens of reporters, but actual protesters were scarce. I did spot a fellow in a Gadsden Flag facemask and a woman whose shirt displayed a slogan about rebellion against tyranny, and as they passed behind me I heard him crack a joke: "I should walk up to the photographers here and say, 'Excuse me, can you direct me to the armed insurrection?'"
In the wake of the recent riot at the U.S. Capitol, a widely circulated flier had called for armed marches at every state capitol on January 17. That sounded pretty dubious—all 50 states? even the most solidly blue ones?—but it seemed plausible that someone would show up somewhere, and of the capital cities that I can reach within 90 minutes I figured Harrisburg was the most likely to attract a crowd. The day before, working from a list of upcoming protests that a security firm had been circulating, I had gone to a demo in Westminster, Maryland; it had turned out to be a liberal protest, and not a particularly big or rowdy one. Now I was in Harrisburg, and the first actual protesters to show up were, again, some liberals: A local activist named Gene Stilp and one or two assistants had arrived with a cardboard statue of Donald Trump, which they made a show of toppling for a crowd of photographers.
I did, before that, run into a guy named Eddie with a bunch of "Biden Is Not My President" t-shirts that he'd been hoping to hawk to the marchers. Another t-shirt salesman, who had driven down from Pittsburgh, said he'd been under the impression that this was going to be a Second Amendment march, not an election thing. (He might do better tomorrow in Richmond, Virginia, where he plans to set up shop among the gun-rights activists in town for Lobby Day.) A bona fide pro-Trump protester did eventually show up, with a "Fraud 2020" sweatshirt and a megaphone. The general sentiment in his circles, he said, was that the military was going to be out on the street today and that the area was therefore best avoided. But he had decided to head over anyway and represent the That-election-was-probably-stolen-and-did-you-know-that-antifa-infiltrated-the-crowd-at-the-U.S.-Capitol? perspective.

This sparseness did not seem to be unusual: From Salem, Oregon, to Nashville, Tennessee, reports were rolling in of not-quite-demonstrations where the journalists outnumbered the demonstrators. Even the larger protests—like the one in Columbus, Ohio, which the Statehouse News Bureau described as "odd but peaceful"—didn't seem to have drawn more than a few dozen marchers. And the protesters weren't all playing to type either: In Salem, where a handful of folks from the anti-government boogaloo movement had shown up, one brought a sign that said "Fuck Trump" as well as "Fuck Biden."
In Harrisburg, the biggest story was all the reporters looking for a story. If you had opinions you wanted to get into the news, this was your golden opportunity. The man in the Fraud 2020 sweatshirt held court for a while, answering reporters' questions through his megaphone. A black guy berated the cops guarding the capitol building, then announced to everyone present that the real white supremacists were those officers on the other side of the barricade. And the dude in the Gadsden Flag mask wound up holding a little press conference on the Capitol steps. This gradually revealed that—as is often the case at protests, left or right—his politics weren't as predictable as you might have guessed: He thought Trump on balance had been a good president, but he had also supported impeachment over the Ukraine scandal.
While he was talking, the wind nearly blew the barricade over, to the crowd's amusement. "Can you arrest God?" someone asked. I'm not completely sure, but I think even one of the cops might have laughed.
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"The biggest story was all the reporters looking for a story."
Love your work, Mr. Walker, and I've been hyping your The United States of Paranoia: A Conspiracy Theory a lot lately!
One of the central points of that book was that even if conspiracy theories don't tell us much about what's happening in the world and why, they tell us a lot about the people who believe in them. It seems to me that there's a great follow-up book to be written about the media.
The conspiracy theories the news media is promulgating about
insurrectionists[average Americans who doubt the results of the election] both don't have much to tell us about what's really happening and why and have an awful lot to tell us about the news media's state of mind.https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0062135554/reasonmagazinea-20/
I second that nomination. Great book, easy to read, full of surprises, and it makes you think.
Think? If I wanted to think, would I be posting snarky comments online?
Hmmmm .... lemme think about that.
'That is why you fail'
-Yoda
I'm not trying to think, I am thinking!
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Sorry, you were saying something incoherent about a giant media conspiracy to unseat a president?
People doubt the results of the election because they were lied to by their echo chambers and politicians. It’s a self-reinforcing cycle of stupid and angry, and you need to recognize when you’re the very problem you’re talking about.
The same as you idiots who believed in the Russia Hoax. Don't think it is only the other guy. Your side is as guilty if not more of the same living in an echo chamber. And you Tony don't even seem to want to leave it. Or to expand your thinking.
“Sorry, you were saying something incoherent about a giant media conspiracy to unseat a president?”
No he wasn’t you lying piece of shit.
In response to a comment about how conspiracy theories tell us more about the people who promulgate them than they do about what's happening in the world, Tony spouts something telling us that he's probably stupid.
That's actually par for the course for Tony.
The other day, Tony willfully failed to acknowledge the difference between standing up for free speech rights and standing up for the awful things people say--and that's in spite of reading a libertarian website every day for more than ten years?!
When I say all the evidence points to Tony not being very bright, that's not a conspiracy theory. The evidence says a lot more about Tony than it does about me.
Probably stupid? No. Tony is stupid.
It's settled Science.
At least I didn’t suck the cock of a fat orange traitor for four years.
No, you sucked the Wookie's instead.
The media did conspire. Every single analysis of the media showed the differential on treatment halfwit. They buried the laptop story. They buried the biden sexual assault claim.
Post polling shows as much as 5% of Biden voters wouldn't have voted him if they knew of the claims.
Nobody voted FOR Biden. Why would they? He's a pathological liar, corrupt, compromised ...
Senile, besides.
"The media did conspire. Every single analysis of the media showed the differential on treatment halfwit. They buried the laptop story. They buried the biden sexual assault claim..."
Nope. Read this:
“…We often think Tony, Shrike, and ChemJeff are being dishonest–especially when they don’t seem to learn anything from having their arguments shredded and smeared in their faces everyday for years. But the fact that they don’t seem to learn anything–knowledge wise or in terms of critical thinking–may be consistent with the hypothesis that they’re just not that bright. And we shouldn’t necessarily assume that Binion, Boehm, or Britschgi are fundamentally different from them.
Maybe the reason they try to make us feel is because they’re incapable of making us think. It is beyond their capabilities…”
(Ken)
Keep in mind, most of the media are J-school grads; judged on whether than can write with feeling, not their ability to think. As a result, the media had no need to, and did not "conspire".
They are, collectively, cultural snobs who pale at someone expressing themselves in other than the 'approved' manner, terrified that a person who does so was elected to the highest office and needing no marching orders at all to read what a peer wrote or discussed and repeating it.
When it turned out that most of what they wrote (broadcast) about Trump was lies, well, they did what they did with this story late last week:
"Feds back away from claim of assassination plot at Capitol
Prosecutors who initially said there was “strong evidence” the pro-Trump mob that stormed the U.S. Capitol last week aimed to “capture and assassinate elected officials” have backed away from that allegation"
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/feds-capitol-mob-aimed-assassinate-elected-officials-75277876?cid=clicksource_4380645_6_heads_hero_live_hero_hed
They buried of ignored it; every see NYT's 'correction for Duranty? you got it.
The Chron gave the original claim two columns on page 1; the 'correction' (admission of printing lies) was under the fold on Pg 8.
Per Ken, we are not dealing with those who get their belts through all the loops, we're dealing with the likes of those mentioned, M4e, echospinner, ODL and the lot.
Some are bright enough to understand, but as scumbag cultural snobs are willing to sacrifice YOUR liberty in general to maintain their position.
Find them; do not do business with them. Make them pay.
The laptop story was made up out of thin air. You are not connected to reality.
If what progressives say about unconscious bias is true, then the entire country is being programmed by unconsciously biased media people into being unconsciously biased in favor of democrats.
Propaganda exists because it works, therefore, democrats would lose elections without this factor.
Okay. Let's try this one more time. When Google says they won't Let 2016 happen again, and news rooms say they won't publish anything bad about bidan, and actively go after other journalists that do put Biden in a dark light, that is not a conspiracy theory thinking the media and big tech are trying to dictate policy and elections. That is listening tk what they are saying openly and believing them
Good. They will cuck to pressure from the righting lunatics, but what they should do is shut them down forever. Capitalism can’t survive with inbred retards taking power.
The last 4 years have definitely been a cycle of stupid and angry, that’s for sure.
Damn boy, there might just be some self awareness in you after all!
Agreed. Just as the conspiracy theories about a stolen election don’t tell us anything about stolen elections, but tell us a lot about who promulgates them and who believes them.
At the very least, they tell us something about the people who believe these things.
"Republicans’ trust in the election system plummeted, while Democrats’ trust soared, according to a new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll.
Multiple new organizations announced Biden as the election winner on Saturday after four days of counting in several swing states. Following the news, 70 percent of Republicans now say they don’t believe the 2020 election was free and fair, a stark rise from the 35 percent of GOP voters who held similar beliefs before the election."
----Politico
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/09/republicans-free-fair-elections-435488
Regardless of whether so many Republicans should believe otherwise, it appears to be the cases that 70% of Republicans don't believe the election was free and fair--regardless of what you, I, or anyone else thinks they should believe.
When the media tries to portray those who question the fairness of the election as extremists on the fringe of society, that's not just flying in the face of Walker's theory about conspiracy theories being a very mainstream phenomenon. It's also factually incorrect.
If the media (or anyone else) is treating anyone and everyone who questions the fairness of the election count as an extremist or an insurrectionist--and 70% of the Republicans out there hold this view--then they're actually treating average Americans more or less like they're Al Qaeda. What does that tell us about the people who treat average Americans as if they were the radical fringe?
At the very least, it tells us such people are completely out of touch with average Americans. Whatever it is they think they know about what average Americans think and why is probably wrong.
Of course they are going to treat average Americans like Al Qaeda. Joe has already said we're domestic terrorists. Terrorists get the USA PATRIOT Act.
It’s not a mystery why people believe lies they are told by their preferred media, Ken.
Do you people ever take any responsibility for yourselves? Like at all?
You are the enemies of modernity and decency. If you want to stop believing lies, stop believing lies. I’m tired of dragging your fat stupid asses across the starting line.
Haha. What a hero. Pat yourself on the back for your extraordinary effort in “dragging fat, stupid asses“ away from wrongthink.
Seriously dude, even if you were right, (and you’re not) you’re still an insufferable asshole. Get help.
My only position is "believe the records of the past we keep." Because at least we can all agree on those. Ken's is "Why aren't my lies working to get my cultural tribe more power, wahhh!"
Besides, I thought insufferable assholes were getting all the free housing by the US taxpayer, so I thought I'd give it a go.
You are the enemies of modernity and decency.
Boy, the left sure does love re-defining words, don't they?
Here's a clue: the left wants you to be more polite to trans people.
You want to take a shit on them for being different than you're used to.
Yes, we're better.
“...the media tries to portray those who question the fairness of the election as extremists on the fringe of society…”
They are extremists. They’re denying all the evidence. They essentially deny reality, and not only on this particular topic. That’s pretty extreme. They are not the average American. That’s what the mainstream represents. The fact that large numbers of Americans have been radicalized doesn’t mean their thinking is no longer fringe. It’s still lunacy, no matter how many believe it, because it isn’t true.
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So disappointed there was no shooting.
Yes, the reporters are drowning their sorrows right now. They were hoping for riots, shootings, tanks in the street, tar and feathering of politicians. Don't worry, they'll find something else to clutch pearls over on Monday. Maybe the big story Wednesday will be that Melania didn't leave a big plate of warm chocolate chip cookies in the White House for DOCTOR Biden.
It's going to be hard to find apocalyptica when the Saltine Cracker In Chief takes office, but the press is a creative bunch.
I suspect the quantity of news stories regarding Trump to stay fairly constant for the next few months at least.
The Media will continue to give the viewers what they want.
What else are they going to cover?
How can a "doctor" be functionally illiterate? Search for "Jill Biden dissertation" and try not to laugh.
Hey now. You're flirting with sedition, there, buddy!
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Deluded MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell, who refuses to accept Donald Trump has lost the election, has called for a military coup following his meeting at the White House, where he was seen holding notes about martial law and the Insurrection Act.
Lindell, Trump's informal advisor who was a former crack addict-turned pillow company boss, appeared at the White House Friday afternoon for a brief meeting.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9156965/MyPillow-CEO-Mike-Lindell-says-hopes-Trump-use-heavy-military-presence-Capitol-COUP.html
But did he wear a tan suit?
Doesn't Antifa wear black like another organization I can think of in history that liked to assault their political enemies?
You need to stop talking about Antifa because you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. You just need to consume mainstream news media. That’s the only way you will be able to have conversations like an adult.
>read my approved news sources or you're just listening to an echo chamber
There's plenty of stupid trumpers on here willing to tow his ridiculous populist line, but you're just the inverse of them. You're just screeching, seething retards of the opposite stripe. I don't know which is worse, both seem about equivalent in their inabilities to deal with reality or have any real introspection, which is why I advocate for less government. This way less of you retards have power over the rest of us. And let's be straight, you're absolutely retards who want power over others. Fuck off, you're the literal opposite of libertarianism, just like the populists and angry republicans who post here.
I'm not everyone's cup of tea.
You're right, it is just two competing views of reality. If you think you have a better one, then you get to be the third.
Mine is the one that has science in it, for what it's worth.
The same science that's killed 2 million people?
People with bad ideologies kill millions of people. Science is just a tool. Sometimes they use it, but they are usually too stupid to use it for much more than blowing shit up.
Life isn't like college, snowflake. It's like high school.
You should read Walker's book about conspiracy theories. I linked it above.
"The fear of intrigue and subversion doesn’t exist only on the fringes of society, but has always been part of our national identity. When such tales takes hold, Walker argues, they reflect the anxieties and experiences of the people who believe them, even if they say nothing true about the objects of the theories themselves."
-----Blurb about The United States of Paranoia: A Conspiracy Theory on Amazon
If you read Walker's book and get your head around its central ideas, maybe you'll start to think about what the shit you post says about you. Maybe you'll suck less!
“maybe you’ll start to think”
Narrator: But in the end, Pod did not start to think.
Thanks Ken.
Thank you for what you have brought upon this nation.
You are not anywhere near acceptance for the damage you caused.
Eat a bullet
How will we ever heal as a nation from the MyPillow guy?!
I invoke Poe's Law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
He's probably referring to you stating that you know that the stolen election story is a lie, and then defending those lies as moral because joe biden isn't actually an aging centrist with 50 years of service.
He's actually a secret communist! Surprise twist!
"years of service"
Echospinner
January.17.2021 at 8:08 pm
"Thanks Ken.
Thank you for what you have brought upon this nation.
You are not anywhere near acceptance for the damage you caused."
No, you pathetic piece of TDDS-addled shit, Kne and company attempted to point out the screaming bias of the media.
You, you pathetic piece of TDDS-addled shit, and your compatriots bought into the story and screamed since 11/16 about 'stories' which were complete bullshit.
Thank you for swallowing that bullshit whole and by the bushel.
Fuck off a die, scumbag.
“Thank you for what you have brought upon this nation.”
Ken is more powerful than I believed!
Yeah, I agree, that's giving Ken WAAAAAAYYYY too much credit...
Not to mention the MyPillow guy!
WTF did Ken do now?
Nah. It was just pillow talk.
But apparently it was good for you, too.
"You should read Walker’s book about conspiracy theories."
Pretty sure pod's been trying to get to the 7th grade for several years; reading of that complexity ain't gonna go.
What your posts tell me about you is that you relish in sophomoric second-year philosophy/polysci hypotheticals and "wannabe "gotcha" questions, rarely take actual positions, often ponitificate in voluminous detail about stuff that no one was talking about, and probably do very well for yourself (from an egotistic perspective) giving little impromptu "professorial asides" talks at parties where everyone else is 10-20 years younger than you.
You love to play the "I'm not really committing in writing to whether I actually believe the election was truly stolen, and I may have dismissed all other polls on most other topics previously, but this ONE poll that says 70% of Republicans think it was stolen so it must be normal to believe that so check out my rambling posts angling for a writer spot" game. That general line/shtick is getting so, so, so old. You might as well just start every post with "People are saying...."
"maybe you’ll start to think about what the shit you post says about you."
Now tell us again how Tweets don't matter. But for EVERYONE ELSE, the shit they post tells us a lot about them. But the shit Trump posted every day did not tell us anything about him, according to like 80% of your "content" over the last couple years. Right?
Are you sure about that former designation for Mike Lindell? I'll pass on his pillow if it means using it in a prison bed.
Earlier around the Holidays, I heard calls for martial law to keep Trump in the White House from some crazy Argentinian woman calling "The Sebastian Gorka Show." (Obviously ignorant of her own country's history of pro-Nazi military Juntas and los desparacitos "the disappeared children.")
What's even crazier is that in 2016, pro-Trump Alex Jones was accusing Obama of wanting to declare martial law to stay in the White House.
I guess I'm the little mind haunted by the hobgoblin foolish consistency that martial law would be wrong for either President to declare to make themselves El Presidente-for-Life.
Yeah, it's only bad when the blue team calls for martial law. When it's the reds that do it, well, that's just protectin' freedom! Or something. Who the fuck knows.
BTW, since you brought up Gorka and nazis, look up his own history, if you haven't already, with the Vitezi Rend, and, more specifically, his daddy. It's pretty interesting, haha.
Rolling Stone in 2007ish (or maybe 2004?) ran an article speculating that Bush/Cheney were planning exactly this. Speaks to Jesse's point that Ken references.
The idiots who show up for these protests are starting to realize they should have put the effort into helping Trump before the election. Then he might have had a shot. But it's too late now and they have only themselves to blame. Their movement already crumbled under its own cowardice and hypocrisy.
Nevertheless it's a great opportunity for libertarians. People are realizing that they've lost the government forever. And they have a new-found antipathy for police. So it's better to have no government than to be tyrannized by the left.
In order to achieve that, we must abolish social security and medicare. Thus the threat isn't from dems or even RINOs but your own parents and grandparents. (Or you if you're dependent on these programs.) "The enemy will be those of a man's own household," as a prophet once augured.
The American Association of Retired Pharts and the Association of Mildewed American Coots will then join hands and make a sign that says: "Keeep yer Gummint mittz off'n muh Soc. Sekuritee Lawk-Bawkz, muh Medi-kare 'n' muh PPP Chek!"
Ok squirrel.
HA. He makes a post bashing new deal socialism and you call him a squirrel. So that's how you own the libs, huh?
It's a nonsenical mishmash of words that add nothing to the discussion. I can't even tell what he's trying to say.
A Sqrsly by any other name is just as annoying.
Nobody's giving up free money they already have, if they have a choice in the matter. It wouldn't be Sophie's Choice between their first born and a government check. It would just be a normal choice, to grab the cash.
You can only con people into stealing their money so long before they start to notice, no matter how much utopia you promise on the other side of their retirement.
*In Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, the biggest story was all the reporters looking for a story.*
Get used to it, This will be the norm till 2924
"In the year 2924
If a Democrat is a whore,
If a Republican is a bore,
We'll want more..."
Fuck off sqrlsy.
"In Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, the biggest story was all the reporters looking for a story."
Pretty much the way the protest turned into "SEDITION!!!!!!!!!!!" in DC last week.
Pretty much the way Trump's off-hand comments have been reported as "intentions".
And then, pretty much as those "intentions" have been reported as "facts" the last four years.
Trump's Presidency has said far, far more about the media and the swamp-dwellers that it has said about Trump.
Yep. I was always skeptical of the media. Now I assume they’re lying until facts show otherwise. Including Reason.
Hmmmm. He and you both claimed that Twitter was his way to "speak directly to the American people." So, I think it fair to look at the literally thousands of Tweets he voluntarily posted, and take them for what they are, many of which do call for or contemplate vile acts and intentions. But go ahead and keep believing that it's ok to on the one hand spend all your time choosing to say asshole shit on the Internet and then expecting everyone else to believe/know that "yeah but in his HEART he meant and said good things and had good ideas."
Conspiracy theories rule the day...within the Republican Party that is ruled by Trump. And when one of our two political major parties is enthralled with conspiracies, that’s a major development. Climate change was a China conspiracy (he said it), the election was stolen by a conspiracy of big tech and Democrats and that was believed by about 150 GOP members of Congress, Venezuela conspired to rig voting machines, the pandemic was a hoax, and now Qanon and their pizza shops are all the rage within the Republican Party including a few members in Congress.
And Jesse, the expert on conspiracy theories, missed what turns out to be be the biggest story ever on that topic...one that has major implications for our country. Conspiracies on JFK and UFOs are meaningless at the end of the day. We saw last week what happens when one political party embraces conspiracies. And they ain’t done.
Jackand Ace
January.17.2021 at 9:57 pm
"Conspiracy theories rule the day…within the Republican Party that is ruled by Trump..."
Jackass can't get through one sentence without lying; he is a steaming pile of lefty shit.
Please tell us SPoLS, how chanting "Fight Climate Change" will make the CA wildfires disappear. You seem to have forgotten how that works.
Or, you's simply a lying SPoLS.
So you're saying that Pennsylvania's magic riot-repelling rock worked?
I'd like to buy their rock.
Down from Pittsburgh? Try over from Pittsburgh.
Boom. Roasted.
But I expected someone else to bring up this: "he had also supported impreachment over the Ukraine scandal"
"Impreachment" is a legitimately embarrassing typo, but I will defend "down from Pittsburgh" to the death.
(Well, OK, not to the death. But maybe to a state of mild discomfort.)
Going to a capital is always going 'up.'
Same thing has/is/will occur in DC and 49 other state capitols this week, as the left wing Dems and media propagandists have created and hyped a police state based upon their false and divisive narrative of predicting right wing racist sedition riots.
Oh, so that riot never really happened, huh? WHEW. What a relief!
Looks like your pedophile friends are the only ones showing up
There was no riot. A riot involves a group acting in concert to cause violence and destruction.
The Capitol incident was a group pushing into a public building and standing around to take selfies.
The only coordinated violence was caused by the security guards hired by Pelosi.
There was no coordinated destruction, except by five assholes breaking windows, who did nothing violent.
It wasn’t a riot. Or a siege. Or an insurrection.
Yeah, who'd have thought an angry mob trying to hunt down Nancy Pelosi and Mike Pence would put so many people on edge? I'm, like, so totally SHOCKED! BAD MEDIA, BAD!!!
Remember when parents went to school to 'hunt down' their kids?
Well, sure, they didn't give a shit when the violence was only hurting other people and wasn't a direct threat to them. Why do you think Durkin the Dyke finally shut down CHAZ?
The armed march that wasn't, the insurrection that wasn't.
Watch new videos of the "siege" (LOL) at the capitol. The Bison hat guy and a small group sort of saunters inside, salutes the cops, and ask one dude (who was hit by a rubber bullet) if he's ok. Later on someone prays for protection against commies.
There are also some footages of Trump supporters calling cops inside the building heroes, and one cop asks people on the senate floor "is it possible for you guys to leave".
It's so obvious that they the cops did what what they did all throughout summer of 2020 - pull back and let in rioters once they felt overmatched. And most of these "insurrectionists" just basically just wandering around and taking selfies. Some of them broke things or stole things from offices, meaning these Trumpers made weak imitations of Target looting that went unchecked half a year.
The left is so delusional and morally bankrupt that they would call these people insurrectionists, but invent excuses for subhumans who burn down half a city and execute cops sitting inside their cars. DC is a now fortress, but MN wasn't.
I would've loved to see a few people try to steal desks or office chairs.
Apparently the galaxy-brains in Congress, like Pelosi, left their computers unlocked with their email visible, and some even left their siprnet laptops open and unlocked, too.
You'd think during a day where the next President is being confirmed, these doobs could have kept their classified material locked up in the GSA safe for a few hours.
Something tells me they'll face no punishment for this, even though the same offense by a regular dude would result in an investigation and possibly loss of clearance.
Even in a panic, it takes 2 seconds to hit Windows+L and lock the screen. Should be muscle memory for anyone who works on secure systems when getting up and leaving.
Either you have remained willfully ignorant, or you have seen stuff like this and just decided not to accept reality.
https://youtu.be/cJOgGsC0G9U?t=979
The Capitol incident was a group pushing into a public building and standing around to take selfies.
The only coordinated violence was caused by the security guards hired by Pelosi.
There was no coordinated destruction, except by five assholes breaking windows, who did nothing violent.
It wasn’t a riot. Or a siege. Or an insurrection.
In response to a comment about how conspiracy theories tell us more about the people who promulgate them than they do about what’s happening in the world, Tony spouts something telling us that he’s probably stupid.
That’s actually par for the course for Tony.
The other day, Tony willfully failed to acknowledge the difference between standing up for free speech rights and standing up for the awful things people say–and that’s in spite of reading a libertarian website every day for more than ten years?!
When I say all the evidence points to Tony not being very bright, that’s not a conspiracy theory. The evidence says a lot more about Tony than it does about me.... WELCOME TO MY JOB
Even the bots know Tony is stupid.
Best bot comment ever.
If it ever becomes sentient, it should run for Congress, it might be the first Libertarian to actually win an election that matters.
I'm not surprised nobody showed up. All throughout the right blogosphere and youtube space there were calls for followers to avoid these protests, because they had no idea who had been circulating the fliers, there was no organizations who were listed on the fliers, and the design language on the fliers was vaguely Chinese Agitprop looking to them.
The Democrats have to manufacture an insurrection, even if none is occurring, to keep their base living in fear so they'll approve losses of their freedoms.
This.
At the core of the safety/fear culture is the desire to feel both afraid and protected, and how easy this makes manipulation by the power-hungry.
And wear your mask, citizen!
It's mandatory as well as Patriotic.
Make sure to vote for Trump or that Soros-funded migrant caravan will magically reappear and make you bake cakes for gay Muslims!
The Democrats have to manufacture an insurrection, even if none is occurring, to keep their base living in fear so they’ll approve losses of their freedoms.
insurrections, pandemics...they're busy as bees at manufacturing stuff...
You know how the Jews are.
The Hard Right isn't stupid. They may not be entirely smart--but they're patient tacticians, at least.
They see what is happening. They can read the pulse of the media. They'll go back underground, where the Left thinks they want them. The Left will be so busy absorbing their own echoes in the press they'll think they had these kooks whipped.
And then we'll all be "surprised."
It's a terrible thing, this "cancellation" and "de-platforming." It serves the desires of today at the expense of the realities of tomorrow.
"They’ll go back underground,"
They'll stay there unless someone like Trump can coax them out, as he did on Jan. 6th.
An massive armed march on all 50 Capitols would have been Trump's last chance to remain in power. That it turned out to be a damp squib is probably down to Twitter's ban, and Trump's lack of a back up plan, or he's simply accepted that his days of presidenting are coming to an end.
An massive armed march on all 50 Capitols would have been Trump’s last chance to remain in power.
How so? What is the legal mechanism for staying in power if people stand in the street in 50 cities?
"What is the legal mechanism"
Who said anything about legal mechanisms? Storming and occupying 50 state capitols until the enemy accepts the truth and justice of Trump's claims was his last hope.
That's not the same thing as an armed march. There are lots of armed protests all the time. They are universally peaceful as far as I have seen. There are a few weirdos who think "storming" capitals might be a good idea, I'm sure. But I have seen nothing that would lead me to believe that there are or have been any serious plans to do so.
" But I have seen nothing that would lead me to believe that there are or have been any serious plans to do so."
We can thank Twitter for that. Who would have thought that Trump's plans to restore honesty and justice could be thwarted so easily?
"That’s not the same thing as an armed march..."
You're dealing with a troll.
I blame Reason.
On January 7th he said he would cooperate with the new administration to transition.
What makes you think he's encouraging an armed coup?
"What makes you think he’s encouraging an armed coup?"
He's not. If he had, the turnout to the Harrisburg event would have been more impressive.
Guess it was a good idea to ban him from Twitter.
Banning people is always a good idea, asshole.
Banning the use of mass communication technology to spread violent lies is a good idea. Banning Nazis is a good idea.
But only if you think a good idea is not getting people get mass murdered for insane reasons.
Twitter banning Trump was probably the greatest thing they could have done for him.
A whole couple weeks without the ability to be a comments troll on the world.
It's practically a day at the beach. It certainly always does wonders for my mental health.
it seemed plausible that someone would show up somewhere
A nugget of credible intelligence.
"FBI Vetting Guard Troops in DC Amid Fears of Insider Attack"
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-01-18/fbi-vetting-guard-troops-in-dc-amid-fears-of-insider-attack
Should have vetted FBI folks in 2017; could have saved millions wasted over fake news.
Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean that America isn't out to get them.
The FBI should be paranoid Biden knows what they did to Trump how can he trust them now.
"New state bill seeks to reduce wait times for mental health follow-up visits"
[...]
"“If you break a leg, you can expect to receive immediate follow-up care — no one with health insurance would be told they have to wait six months to get a cast removed because no providers were available,” Wiener said. “Yet, that’s exactly how we currently treat mental health and substance use disorder treatment.”..."
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/New-state-bill-seeks-to-reduce-wait-times-for-15871086.php?cmpid=gsa-sfgate-result
The reason for the wait times is a lack of providers, so Weiner (who passes for a sane SF politico) makes it very easy: Just pass a law!
Did someone let Huma's hubby out of the pokey?
Hillary will not be pleased.
there was never going to be any mass protests armed or otherwise. It was all an excuse to bring in the national guard and put up bigger fencing that will not be going away. And now the FBI doesn't even trust the National Guard and is investigating them. Will they be calling for the U.N. blue helmets to come in and protect them from their own military next. that would be a scary mistake that they they would soon regret.
Whatever shakes out the Nazis. Soldiers don't have free speech rights.
No, but they do control the munitions.
Sounds like a game of numbers then.
One of Trump's many accomplishments was being the first Republican in living memory to turn vast numbers of soldiers against the Republican party.
Which doesn't matter in the theoretical case of UN Blue Helmets coming in to "investigate" or "clean things up". Doesn't matter whether the troop is R or D, they ain't going along with that. Put another way, a lot of troops may have voted D, but that's a lot different than asking them to act against their friends and colleagues.
This kind of thing has come up before, and team blue always assumes soldiers will just blindly follow whatever orders are issued to them. This reflects a real lack of experience working with the military.
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Hey now. Shitty, frat boy beer does suck, but you're blowing things way out of proportion.
The left wing media salivates at the very thought of 'right wing violence.'
That's why I'm pissed off at those idiots who occupied that Capitol.
They walked right into it.
That is the correct attitude. There was nothing effective about that move. It discredited Trumpism forever, naturally, but it might have taken the Republican party down with it. It certainly did in the short term.
Of course, if the mob had achieved what it wanted, be'd be faced with the much bigger problem of Trumpism continuing to exist.
If the revolution has fizzled out, everything has worked as hoped. Flash-in-the-pan Trumpism is the best kind of -ism it could possibly be.
We had clues, since the grievances were absurd and based on lies nobody else had any reason to go along with.
But preventing the ranting madman from controlling the thoughts of millions of Americans seems like it worked out pretty fucking well, huh? You're welcome. You might even be able to salvage the Republican party out of this shitpile, for all the good that will do.
Tony sez Trumpism, which netted 72 mil vote in the election and made inroads with minority voters, will fizzle out during the Biden years, which has 0 chance of economic growth.
Biden ran up the score in blue states, which is predictably bungling the vaccine roll out. My parents cannot get vaccinated in CA even though they’re not white and young.
In don lafontaine voice
“In a world where right wing nazis secretly dominate all aspects of life, most violence on minorities are committed by nonwhites and every institution accused of systematic racism is ran by democrats and freakishly wealthy liberals”
Tony and his friends are cretinous little miscreants who should never govern over any diverse society. Look at how many pocs are dying in CA. But Tony’s friends still go to underground parties and sports championships runs. They don’t care about the very people they claimed to care about by looting target and executing police officers for.
But o god, someone objected to election results! Some hotheads walked around an empty capital building for a few hours! What the fuck will we do!
So the scam didn't work, huh?
Looks like there's limits to media manipulation....
The same as you idiots who believed in the Russia Hoax. Don’t think it is only the other guy. Your side is as guilty if not more of the same living in an echo chamber. And you Tony don’t even seem to want to leave it. Or to expand your thinking.
In the past week, I've heard/seen/read hundreds of news stories promoting the conspiracy theory that angry right wing Trump supporters will riot in DC and state capitols. And yet, not one news story has provided ANY actual evidence that any rioting or violence may occur.
Its just more Fake News, just like the Hillary Clinton financed conspiratorial claim that Trump was a Russian spy (touted daily by lying Democrats and their left wing media propagandists for the past four years) , and the conspiratorial claim that the mostly peaceful protest at the Capitol on Jan 6 was a violent insurrection attempting to overthrow the US government.
Tomorrow, the left wing Trump hating news media (including Fox News, WSJ and National Review) will go to great lengths looking for (i.e. making up) stories about Trump supporters rioting in DC and state capitols.
The only folks protesting near the DC Capitol (or near any state capitol) will be idiots who want to get their 15 minutes of fame appearing on a news report (as there will be exponentially more media propagandists promoting conspiracy theories tomorrow than there will be protesters).