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Nashville

Police Say Christmas Morning Explosion in Nashville Appears 'Intentional'

About 20 buildings were damaged and three people injured when an RV exploded. "It looks like a bomb went off," Nashville Mayor John Cooper told a local newspaper.

Eric Boehm | 12.25.2020 11:15 AM

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A vehicle explosion that rocked downtown Nashville, Tennessee, on Christmas morning "appears to have been an intentional act" according to local police.

The Metro Nashville Police Department says an investigation is continuing after an "explosion linked to a vehicle" occurred around 6:30 a.m. near 166 Second Ave in the city's downtown core.

"This appears to have been an intentional act," the Metro Nashville Police Department said in a statement posted to Twitter. "Law enforcement is closing downtown streets as investigation continues."

According to WKRN, the explosion originated with a parked RV and caused damage to several nearby buildings. At least three people were injured seriously enough to be transported to a local hospital, but there are no reports of any deaths connected to the explosion.

Videos posted to social media from the scene of the explosion show widespread damage to buildings along the block, with windows blown out and evidence of fire damage.

#UPDATE: NEW up close video of the #nashvilleexplosion

Credit: Kelly Bolyard / Facebook pic.twitter.com/WXxLrVmAxJ

— Big Rick Radio (@OnAirWithRick) December 25, 2020

Security footage obtained by WKRN from a nearby condominium shows a bright flash and violent shaking at the moment the explosion occurred.

Here is security camera footage of a condo at  309 church in the Exchange Lofts. Video from Aaron and Tiffany Trevethan #nashvilleexplosion pic.twitter.com/bM34IESzvy

— Meaghan Thomas (@megtomwx) December 25, 2020

Nashville Mayor John Cooper told The Tennesseean that about 20 buildings were damaged and said "it looks like a bomb went off."

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  1. Brian   4 years ago

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    1. JesseAz   4 years ago

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      1. R Mac   4 years ago

        Outlaw country.

        1. Hank Ferrous   4 years ago

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  2. Biden4Liberty   4 years ago

    Proud Boy Qanon MAGAts...bank on it.

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    2. Sometimes Bad Is Bad   4 years ago

      Hey look it’s shreek in his socks!

    3. Brian   4 years ago

      When something explodes in Tennessee, how do you know when it’s on purpose?

      1. MatthewSlyfield   4 years ago

        When it wasn't a distillery?

    4. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

      Proud Boy Qanon MAGAts…bank on it

      Those same MAGA's that seized downtown Portland and assaulted poor Jussie no doubt.

      1. KillAllRednecks   4 years ago

        No the inbred cousin fuckers from rural Clark county, WA who drive down to Portland to shoot people with paintballs and fight Antifa. Despite no one wanting them anywhere near Portland. Those MAGA hicks.

        1. ThanksForTheFish   4 years ago

          Your screen name makes me think you're a rational and tolerant person we should all listen to.

          (I'll put the /s tag here because I know you'll miss the sarcasm in my comment).

          1. KillAllRednecks   4 years ago

            Your name plus comment leads me to believe your a cousin fucker!

            Fuck off hick!

            1. newshutz   4 years ago

              KAR must think The Hitchhiker's Guide is big in rural Tennessee.

              1. KillAllRednecks   4 years ago

                Didn't get the reference because I'm not a nerd

                1. AnyoneStillCareAboutFreedomInHere?   4 years ago

                  I think you mean:

                  "Didnt get the reference because Im dumb and dont know anything but my personal hate for hicks, which in a way turns me into my own kind of hick".

                  1. KillAllRednecks   4 years ago

                    No I meant I didn't get the reference because I'm not a hick you goddamn hick!

                    Oh and my name is a joke. I hate Mormons!

                    1. KillAllRednecks   4 years ago

                      *the first hick should be nerd.

                    2. Jimbo BTR   4 years ago

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                      KAR: *rages against people more educated than him while not getting the reference to a book he's never read (not that that narrows it down much)*

        2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   4 years ago

          Haha. Awwwww, no one wants them there?

          Sucks to have to share your world with other people, don’t it?

          What a doosh.

          1. KillAllRednecks   4 years ago

            When they come down just to cause trouble fuck em. People in SW Washington are fucking dirty, white trash pieces of shit. If they wanna hold a Trump parade or rally they should hold it in there own shithole towns.

    5. Enlightened Atheist   4 years ago

      Sadly you're probably right. Right-wing terrorism is a plague that can't keep be ignored any longer. Also Biden4liberty is a great screen-name, I too think he will have a positive impact on liberty.

      1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

        Biden
        BinLaden
        Coincidence?

      2. Sevo   4 years ago

        "...I too think..."

        From what you post here, that's highly unlikely.

        1. Hank Ferrous   4 years ago

          Agreed. And given the negative impact on liberty for 47 years with Biden in office, it definitely isn't enlightened or thinking, just an atheist.

        2. KillAllRednecks   4 years ago

          Why is he stupid Sevo?

          Have you ever done blow or you some kind of uptight square? If you tried it once and felt "addled" it was probably mostly Meth because you live in a rural shithole.

          Do you even drink or are you some kind of pussy Mormon?

          Would explain why you're so goddamn angry and stupid.

      3. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

        Biden4liberty is a great screen-name, like Ministry of Love or the Democratic Peoples Republic.

      4. damiskec   4 years ago

        Talking to yourself again Shreek.

      5. John el Galto   4 years ago

        And yet 90% of the violence this past year was from crazed Biden supporters roaming the streets.

      6. R. K. Phillips   4 years ago

        Naw. The only difference between the R's and the D's are which aspect of your life they insist on controlling. More laws, less liberty.

    6. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

      Unmentioned in this article police were responding to the area near the explosion based on calls of shots fired made beforehand. This could indicate the intentional targeting of police.

      Right wing MAGA Proud boys are always the enemy of cops.
      *Rolls eyes.*

      1. Nardz   4 years ago

        This too.
        Eerie video.

        https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1342521448414539782?s=19

        BREAKING: Audio warning was being broadcast before explosion rocked downtown Nashville. Video shows moment of blast.

        1. Roberta   4 years ago

          Makes me think the cause was a gas leak. Loudspeaker warnings, door-to-door calls for evacuation — typical of a gas leak.

          1. Granite   4 years ago

            Except for the rv had a bullhorn stating that there was a bomb on board due to detonate in 15 minutes. It also said to evacuate the area. Then a timer was displayed counting down from 15, at which point it blew up sometime after the 15 minutes (probably 10 minutes longer than the timer was alleging).

            1. Roberta   4 years ago

              But nobody has produced a recording of it saying that, just one witness who thinks she recalls it that way. The recording we do have just says to evacuate, makes no mention of a bomb or timing.

      2. Gray_Jay   4 years ago

        "This could indicate the intentional targeting of police."

        It might, if the RV wasn't broadcasting over loudspeakers a, "Get out of here!" message. Calling in shots fired a bit ahead of the detonation, gets cops to the area early. Not to target them, but to get them to cordon off the area and chase out any homeless or drunks who might otherwise get killed by the blast.

        It looks at first glance, similar to those IRA car bombs in London, back in the day: break lots of expensive stuff, but don't kill anybody. The bomber would have needed a much bigger bomb to do more than scratch the concrete on one of those old Ma Bell switching station buildings. Those things were meant to be war-proof, near as possible.

        Brightly lit explosion, much more light than in video of military ordnance detonating, or the Mythbusters blowing up a car with C-4. TATP detonates with a bright glare, IIRC. I wonder what they used? Or what their statement or demands will be? This would be really concerning if it happened in a few cities and not just Nashville.

        Outside straight draw, it's a local business owner trying to disguise Jewish lightning as an act of terrorism.

        1. Nardz   4 years ago

          It makes even less sense, at first glance, than the Vegas shooting

        2. Hattori Hanzo   4 years ago

          IRA bombs killed people.

          1. Gray_Jay   4 years ago

            Yeah, which was really counterproductive, as they found out. Ordinary Mairead and Seamus didn't feel sympathetic after they watched images of newly-dismembered four year olds on the telly. Blow up Royal Army guys---even better if it's the same guys who were pointing rifles at you while you were walking to the grocers---or rich people's stuff in Belgravia, OTOH, and who cares?

            Later, they tried large car bombs in places like The City, with pre-explosion warning. Not enough warning, a lot of the time. Hundreds of millions to billions of pounds in damages---Baltic Exchange, Bishopsgate---but few ordinary people getting blown up. Difficult to stop, very embarrassing for the government. They fucked up a lot too. Warrington's bomb killed 2 kids in '93. But eventually, the Brits got tired of shelling out a quarter billion pounds everytime one of the things went off, and though they'd never admit it, got serious about asking Sinn Fein what it would take to stop this shit.

        3. Muzzled Woodchipper   4 years ago

          They certainly weren’t looking for a body count.

          Broadcast warnings, and an explosion in downtown at 6am on Christmas morning. There was a physical target.

    7. Arrogant_Condescension   4 years ago

      Apparently, the guy committed suicide outside the AT&T communications center in order to do something about the 5G networks that were being used to spy on Americans.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   4 years ago

    RV ban or you're with the terrorists.

    1. Enlightened Atheist   4 years ago

      This might go a little too far but it might be what we have to do to stop these monsters.

    2. Roberta   4 years ago

      Do we even know the explosion came from the RV, rather than the RV's being near the center of the explosion?

      1. Fist of Etiquette   4 years ago

        We can't wait to find out.

  4. Sometimes Bad Is Bad   4 years ago

    Blm antifa or jihad sjws most likely.

    1. Arrogant_Condescension   4 years ago

      Nope. Just some conspiracy theorist who was paranoid of 5G networks.

  5. Jerry B.   4 years ago

    Commenters on this story in the Washington Post all know it was MAGA hat wearing Proud Boys. Amazing intelligence sources they have.

    1. Brian   4 years ago

      Nashville is ground zero of the leftist enemy. Who knew?

    2. MK Ultra   4 years ago

      At HuffPost, too, but with more misuse of their/they're/there.

      Proper grammar and paywalls are racist.

  6. Brian   4 years ago

    The right wing war on Christmas begins!

  7. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

    SleepyJoe knows it was intentional and he knows who did it and why.
    He will say so after his nap. I

  8. Marshal   4 years ago

    If the bomb was intentionally detonated at 6:30 AM the intent wasn't mass murder. We need to understand which buildings it was parked in front of.

    1. Unicorn Abattoir   4 years ago

      Or the intent was to kill cops. From the AP article:

      Metro Nashville Police Department spokesman Don Aaron said police responded to a call of shots fired just before 6 a.m. but found no immediate signs of a shooting, although officers noticed a suspicious vehicle and called for a hazardous unit. While they waited, the vehicle exploded.

      1. TJJ2000   4 years ago

        BLM!!!

        1. Unicorn Abattoir   4 years ago

          That's not politically acceptable. Must be the IRA.

      2. Rossami   4 years ago

        Baloney. If you wanted to kill cops (or any first responders), you do it with two-stage bombs using IED tactics refined in Iraq.

        This has more earmarks of a gang attack. Nashville's not a someplace I would have thought of as an organized crime hub but people didn't think of Cleveland that way before the wave of bombings in the 1970s.

        1. Hank Ferrous   4 years ago

          Maybe, but antifa are not as smart as they think they are/portray themselves, and definitely not as skilled. A two-stage explosive attack would take timing, observation, and skill. And courage, of a sort. A single explosion is well within the capability of both left and right-leaning knuckleheads, or gangs.

          1. Rossami   4 years ago

            No doubt. But people that unsophisticated are also too unsophisticated to make the kind of "targeted" attack against police that the department spokesman claimed.

            1. Unicorn Abattoir   4 years ago

              Unsophisticated? Maybe not targeting cops, but this was planned:

              From The Tennesean:

              Just before the blast, witnesses in the area reported a dire warning coming from the RV: “Evacuate now. There is a bomb. A bomb is in this vehicle and will explode."

              Then, the voice started a 15-minute countdown.

              1. Commenter_XY   4 years ago

                Jesus Christ. It has started.

              2. Roberta   4 years ago

                Except it wasn't witnesses, plural, just one, whom they're all repeating. Meanwhile the recording we do have of the recording makes no mention of a bomb, and is consistent with what a gas leak detector annunciator would say.

          2. MK Ultra   4 years ago

            Or someone who might not about military time, or is too dumb for simple math.

            Numbers are hard.

            1. MK Ultra   4 years ago

              *know. No edit button for Christmas. Maybe Boxing Day or Kwanzaa.

      3. MatthewSlyfield   4 years ago

        The vehicle was also broadcasting an evacuation warning.

    2. loveconstitution1789   4 years ago

      It was parked in front the of the "Batman Building" which is the tallest building in Tennessee. It also has offices for AT&T and evidently a communications switchboard for the region. Regional communications have been disrupted.

      There was a food court on the other side of the street but I dont think the Melting Pot was the target.

  9. Marshal   4 years ago

    P.S.

    Unmentioned in this article police were responding to the area near the explosion based on calls of shots fired made beforehand. This could indicate the intentional targeting of police.

    1. MatthewSlyfield   4 years ago

      The vehicle was broadcasting an evacuation warning. That could indicate no intent to kill anyone.

      1. Roberta   4 years ago

        Or no intent period, just a 'bot warning of a gas leak.

        1. MatthewSlyfield   4 years ago

          No, according to the reports the warning specifically used the word "bomb". A gas leak alarm, even if it had a verbal warning (most don't) wouldn't use the word "bomb".

          1. loveconstitution1789   4 years ago

            unreason staff "bomb" here on a daily basis. Their joke propaganda are full of gas.

          2. Roberta   4 years ago

            But you can listen to the recording on YouTube, and it makes no mention of "bomb". So are you going to believe reports or your own ears?

  10. TangoDelta   4 years ago

    Sounds like a leaky propane refrigerator to me.

    I suppose the official initial response has to be "intentional bombing" to keep the fires of public fear stoked during the holidays. That way in two weeks when nobody remembers they can come out and say "meh, faulty valve" in a one paragraph story buried deep beneath obits.

    1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   4 years ago

      That was my first thought, propane leakage, but could also be for a heater or stove.

      1. Roberta   4 years ago

        Is it possible for the fuel of a LNG vehicle to leak and form a gas-air cloud in the vicinity? In that case it might've been from the RV after all.

        Apparently someone in the vicinity turned on an audio loop to a loudspeaker telling everyone within earshot to evacuate, and there were also people going door to door telling people to evacuate. That's what would happen if someone detected a gas leak.

        1. Granite   4 years ago

          You’re a fucking idiot.

          1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   4 years ago

            The idiot is on the other end; see Roberta's comment below.

        2. Roberta   4 years ago

          Now I think there was no human intervention, but the gas leak detector's own annunciator.

    2. MatthewSlyfield   4 years ago

      according to reports I have read20 buildings suffered structural damage. An RV propane tank is not going to cause that much damage.

      There are also reports that the RV was broadcasting an evacuation warning.

      1. TangoDelta   4 years ago

        Because you've seen - how many propane tank explosions?

        You get the tank itself, because of the lack of oxygen is a lesser danger than the leaked propane air gas cloud, yeah? It's like the gasoline myth - I've put out cigarettes in a coffee can full of gasoline. The trick is it has to be full so the volatile gasses readily spill over the edge when the butt hits the liquid, which is far more stable.

        Oh, BTW, many motor homes, or RVs in local parlance, have alarms that broadcast warnings when the propane system goes wonky. You get that, yeah? It's simple. Propane heat, propane refrigerators, propane stoves. All are subject to a simple leak that can lead to an explosive gas mixture and not wanting to kill the occupants, there's an alarm.

        1. MatthewSlyfield   4 years ago

          I actually own a travel trailer with a propane leak alarm. The alarm is just a very annoying tone. It is not a verbal warning to evacuate.

          I own several propane tanks. I doubt you've every seen one. I've never seen one explode, but I know how much propane they contain. It's a lot less than you probably think.

          1. Roberta   4 years ago

            Yours have had just a very annoying tone. Look up "annunciator" and you'll find alarms with much more specific audio. This one is a favor to the neighborhood, who on hearing a mere screech might not think of a gas leak but will respond to a warning to evacuate the area.

            1. MatthewSlyfield   4 years ago

              I doubt a gas leak "annunciator" would use the word "bomb". According to reports the warning coming from the RV in question specifically used the word "bomb".

              1. Roberta   4 years ago

                But the reports are contradicted by the recording of the warning that you can listen to yourself online.

  11. Ragnarredbeard   4 years ago

    "It looks like a bomb went off," Nashville Mayor John Cooper told a local newspaper.

    No shit, Sherlock.

    1. John el Galto   4 years ago

      Did you see Mayor Cooper laughing while talking about bombs going off? Guy's in way over his head.

  12. Roberta   4 years ago

    I think we've solved this one:

    https://www.rvhometown.com/best-rv-propane-detectors/

    The alarm sets off the looped audio heard on one of the Twitter-linked videos telling people that if they can hear it they should evacuate immediately. Apparently it was in the van, and it operated as it should have, and probably saved some injuries.

    1. Hank Ferrous   4 years ago

      Interesting, thanks.

    2. Nardz   4 years ago

      That... makes more sense than anything else at the moment.
      If only we had investigative agencies and a news media that could point such possibilities out.

    3. MatthewSlyfield   4 years ago

      None of the descriptions at the link you cite describe alarms that would be verbal evacuation warnings. I have a travel trailer with such an alarm. It's just a high volume tone similar to most smoke alarms.

      1. Minadin   4 years ago

        Three of them mention speaking voice notifications. #7, #9, #10.

        No idea what they say, though. Definitely different from a beep or tone or klaxon.

        1. MatthewSlyfield   4 years ago

          Okay, but the reports out of Nashville say the warning from the RV was specifically using the word bomb. I rather doubt that these propane leak alarms use that word.

          1. Roberta   4 years ago

            All those reports stem from one witness who fled and was going by her recollection. The audio recording we do have just says, "All buildings in the area must be evacuated," 3 times, then "If you can hear this message, evacuate now," 3 times. I think the lady's just mistaken in her recollection of it saying "bomb" or mentioning time to an explosion.

            1. MatthewSlyfield   4 years ago

              I've also heare reports that bomb was used in the warning coming from police officers that hear it.

              And even if that's wrong, "All buildings in the area must be evacuated" is not wording I would expect from a gas leak alarm for an RV. RV's have removeable LPG tanks with their own shut off valves built into the tanks. If an RV gas leak alarm has any verbal warning, the first instruction would be to shut off the gas tanks, not to evacuate.

              1. Roberta   4 years ago

                But a warning to shut off the gas would be useless if the vehicle is unattended as it was here. People in the vicinity don't have the key to get in there; meanwhile firemen will know what to do, and everyone else should evacuate.

                If you listen closely to the recording, you can even tell where the variable wording is that can be programmed depending on the type of installation. If it's in a building, it would just say "this building" or "the building". If it's an open campus, just "the area". In this case, a RV which might be parked who-knows-where, "all buildings in the area" makes perfect sense. It's a clumsy edit you'll hear on the audio.

      2. Roberta   4 years ago

        No, but there are alarms (typically installed in buildings, but I'm sure someone's thought to put one in a vehicle) with annunciators that loop a warning of a specific danger. One of them on YouTube unaccountably alternates between a warning and music!

        1. MatthewSlyfield   4 years ago

          Maybe, but evacuation is the wrong warning for an RV. If you do have a gas leak in the RV's gas plumbing, you don't evacuate, you shut off the LPG tank(s), and maybe disconnect them from the RV.

          1. Roberta   4 years ago

            Yeah, if you're in the RV to start with. If the owner's sleeping somewhere, as appears to be the case here, what then?

  13. Roberta   4 years ago

    See https://staticpro.comelitgroup.com/storage/2018/01/169/2G31000548.pdf starting at page 16. This is an automated voice that comes on automatically on detection of the condition.

    1. Gray_Jay   4 years ago

      Does a LPG gas cloud explosion put out that much light? (I know BLEVE's can, just from the big glowing expanding fireball.) Plus, what's the explosive power from one tank's contents, adequately mixed with air to form an explosive ratio?

      I guess it could explain the damage. I see lots of broken glass and busted up interior sheetrock and some interior framing, but I don't see facade collapse or major building destruction in any of the photos.

      1. MatthewSlyfield   4 years ago

        1. There is no such thing as an LPG gas cloud. LPG stands for Liquified Petroleum Gas (generally propane), and it's liquified under pressure, not cryogenically. Once it's released and forms a cloud, it's not liquified any more.

        2. Probably, if there is enough gas in the cloud. It's unlikely that an RV LPG tank would have enough propane in it for the size explosion that has been reported.

        1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   4 years ago

          Might be, if it filled the RV's interior.

          1. MatthewSlyfield   4 years ago

            Destroy the RV, yes. The size explosion that has been reported, no.

            Besides, if you emptied the whole tank into the interior of the RV and kept the gas in the RV, you probably have too much gas an not enough oxygen for a clean detonation.

            A fuel/air explosion is highly sensitive to the ratio of fuel to oxygen.

      2. MatthewSlyfield   4 years ago

        Reports from the Nashville FD & PD indicate structural damage to 20 buildings, but to to the extend that buildings were in immediate danger of collapse. Structural in this context means damage to the foundation and/or load bearing elements.

        1. MatthewSlyfield   4 years ago

          That's not necessarily beyond what a fuel/air bomb can do, but almost certainly beyond the amount of gas in one RV LPG tank.

      3. Mickey Rat   4 years ago

        Natural gas explosions in suburban homes can be surprisingly powerful. As in, completely destroying the house and demolishing much of the surrounding houses.

    2. MatthewSlyfield   4 years ago

      That document is a building fire alarm system not an RV LP leak detector.

      1. Roberta   4 years ago

        Yes, but you think those elements never occur together? I just couldn't find one specific to RVs online with an annunciator, but absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. There are anti-theft alarms on vehicles that just emit annoying tones, and there are others that "talk"; why wouldn't that be the same for other types of alarms?

        1. MatthewSlyfield   4 years ago

          Okay, but evacuation is the wrong warning for an RV propane leak alarm.

          RVs have easily disconnected LPG tanks. If camping for an extended period, you can just swap and empty tank for a full one with no/minimal tools.

          These tanks have a valve built into the tank itself. The proper response if you do have a leak is not evacuation, but shut off the LPG tanks.

          1. Roberta   4 years ago

            Sure, if you have access to the tank at the time. If you're going to be away for an extended time, you should also turn off the valve, but what if you forget?

  14. Longtobefree   4 years ago

    Most likely a turkey fryer accident - - - - - - -
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  15. Granite   4 years ago

    It’s a proof of concept warning from some faction, probably not at the local level, more like espionage level.

    1. John el Galto   4 years ago

      "some faction"

      Judging by the rest of 2020, it was "crazed Biden supporters."

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    Active shooters apparently in Grapevine, TX and Miami, FL.

    Don't know details, so might just be more or less run-of-the-mill stuff reported because people are on heightened alarm.

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  18. Roberta   4 years ago

    OK, so let's compare likelihoods of bombing vs. accident. Suppose it was a bombing. With the warning and timing, clearly the object was to minimize casualties. So what was the target? The only one said to be likely was the AT&T building. But how much damage was done to it? Apparently enough to disrupt communications for about an hour.

    What would you use? Ideally a shaped charge HE if you really wanted to be selective about targeting. It's said authorities have already ruled out that HE was used. But also, you wouldn't waste a RV, you'd use a cheaper van, which would also be less conspicuous. Like, why would someone park a RV in a business district on Christmas morning?

    But also, you wouldn't warn people for as much as a half hour (as has been said) before the blast, unless you were monitoring the situation from nearby and detonated it manually rather than automatically via timer.

    OTOH if it was an accident, nobody would have control of the timing.

    1. A Thinking Mind   4 years ago

      I've heard authorities claiming it's a suicide bomber. But I don't know why, right now, they think this is intentional. There's a ton of misinformation already out there.

      I just wish we had hard facts to operate on instead of conjecture. by now they should have some idea whether it's consistent with a propane/fuel explosion.

      1. Roberta   4 years ago

        It would clearly be intentional if the earwitness reports of a warning coming from the van saying it had a bomb, giving a countdown, and including intervals of music were correct. We have about the final minute of the actual warning available for public listening via YouTube that sounds completely different. So either the "echo chamber" of "the news" is repeating a mistaken or mendacious account, or the recording had a long program with varying content on it. The stories about a countdown have gotten confusing and contradictory, some saying the time to the explosion turned out to be significantly more than the countdown said, and others saying it exploded before finishing the countdown. I think at this point we're just getting the random misinformation that comes as the product of a game of "telephone", so I'm trusting only what's on recordings of the actual event.

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