Brickbat: Blocked from the Church

Police in Sarto, Manitoba, blocked the entrance to the parking lot of a local church to prevent it from having a drive-in service. The church had planned to broadcast  the service by radio while those attending remained in their cars. Police fined one man who did pull into the parking lot $1,296 ($1,014 U.S.). Under provincial emergency orders to combat coronavirus, only online religious services are permitted.

Comments

[Jerryskids]

Custom becomes ritual when you've forgotten the purpose for what you're doing. How in the hell is a drive-in service going to spread the coronavirus? It's not, but the peasants must be made to obey simply for the sake of obeying so that they don't forget their place.

[Earth Skeptic]

To be fair, this is a battle between competing rituals and dogma. For both sides, no thinking, or challenges allowed.

Its almost enough to make me think that humans are naturally mystical, conformist, and tribal.

[SQRLSY One]

This whole thing here PROVES what I have been saying all along! Government Almighty is the BOSS of God Almighty! Government Almighty RULES from On High!

Scienfoology Song… GAWD = Government Almighty’s Wrath Delivers

Government loves me, This I know,
For the Government tells me so,
Little ones to GAWD belong,
We are weak, but GAWD is strong!
Yes, Guv-Mint loves me!
Yes, Guv-Mint loves me!
Yes, Guv-Mint loves me!
My Nannies tell me so!

GAWD does love me, yes indeed,
Keeps me safe, and gives me feed,
Shelters me from bad drugs and weed,
And gives me all that I might need!
Yes, Guv-Mint loves me!
Yes, Guv-Mint loves me!
Yes, Guv-Mint loves me!
My Nannies tell me so!

DEA, CIA, KGB,
Our protectors, they will be,
FBI, TSA, and FDA,
With us, astride us, in every way!
Yes, Guv-Mint loves me!
Yes, Guv-Mint loves me!
Yes, Guv-Mint loves me!
My Nannies tell me so!

[ace_m82]

I see you've only ever been to really, really dumb "churches" or you've only ever heard about them.

Faith is based on weighing evidence. Anyone who tells you otherwise is an idiot or plain evil.

[SQRLSY One]

"Faith is based on weighing evidence."

As much as I slam hypocritical people (including religious hypocrites) from time to time, Ace is correct on this one. In religious matters, one weighs the evidence as best as one an, which is shown in how people actually behave. Do they love their neighbors as best as they can, or not? (Of course, not of us do things perfectly, but we should at least try). Certain religious cultures "love their neighbors" better than others, and yes, it does change over time and space, which of them are better. And yes, I know, politically correct folks will dispute that... And then turn right around, and condemn conservative Christians!

"By their fruits, you will know them".

[Roberta]

That was it. The fines were for disrespecting authority and finding a way to do what they wanted that was other than what was prescribed. Basically authority said, "You're going to be have your enjoyment of life compromised in a particular way, and you're not allowed to find another compromise that achieves the same supposed end. The end is your suffering, not any benefit to society."

[SQRLSY One]

"The end is your suffering, not any benefit to society.”

You have done Very Well, Weedhopper! This is The Truth and The Way, as shown to us by Government Almighty!

Government Almighty giveth and Government Almighty taketh away; Blessed Be the Name of Government Almighty!!! All Hail!!!

[Adans smith]

Go home, Christmas has been cancelled , Ay

[RabbiHarveyWeinstein]

About time! Who wants to sing the dreidel song?

[Roberta]

Dradel, dradel, dradel.
I made it out of clay.
And any time authority wants,
They can ruin my day.

[Fist of Etiquette]

No one can explain, and this journalist failed to ask, why a gathering of people remaining in their cars poses any public health risk.

The true north, strong and free.

[Adans smith]

It's a 'new normal' that's why. Get in line, take your shot and shut up citizen.

[Jerryskids]

The journalists didn't really fail to ask, they know that questioning the government is verboten by the CBC since it might affect their government subsidy.

[RabbiHarveyWeinstein]

Why are you right-wing, Christian bigots denying science again! You lost the evolution debate! You lost the transgender debate! You lost the COVID debate!

[SQRLSY One]

That's right! Denying science is EVIL! When Science comes knocking at your door, you MUST let Science in! And then when Science "asks" you to give your guns and toy guns and excessively large sodas to Science, don't be so anti-Science! And when Science demands that you get permission before blowing on a cheap plastic flute, don't be so anti-Science!

To stay ye SAFE from the Cheap-Plastic-Flute Scientists, read ye THIS!

http://www.churchofsqrls.com/DONT_DO_THIS/

[Earth Skeptic]

"Strong and free"? That's just so racist, sexist, ableist, capitalist, elitist that I can't even.

Weak and submissive--those are the words of equity, fairness, and safety!

[Cyto]

This is the salient point.

Over and over I have hammered this drum on these pages. The media is both incompetent and corrupt.

12 years ago as Obama was running, I opined that they were incompetent - failing to follow up on the most obvious and simple questions. Then Trump happened and it became obvious that they were operating as a propaganda machine, not a 4th estate.

This morning offered further evidence in the form of NBC's Today show. They ran a segment on the election. "Trump repeated his false claims that have already been debunked". They put the "false" modifier in their a half dozen times. They said "disproven" over and over again. But they never once listed a single claim. They followed this up with a bunch of democrat lawmakers saying this is "unprecedented" and "I've never seen anything like it".

Like what? We don't know. They never said. But they did say that the supreme court declining an injunction signaled an end to the court challenges (which is not true).

They went immediately to the FDA meeting to approve the Pfizer vaccine. Now, for those who don't watch, NBC has been scare-mongering the vaccines all year. They repeatedly ran stories about people not trusting vaccines because Trump is making false claims for political reasons. They ran many stories telling us that Trump lied when he said a vaccine would be ready this fall.

So a quandary... how to cover this? Well, they spent the last week talking about "Britain leading the way, showing the US how it is done" with their deployment of the Pfizer vaccine. They also ran stories about how Biden had a plan to ensure that the vaccine gets distributed promptly when he takes office - - using the military logistics to get it done (something that NBC told me was illegal and impossible when Trump announced it).

NBC had their anchor talk with an FDA panel member, and ask questions about both "why is it taking so long?" and "how do you answer people who don't trust the vaccine?". It was an odd piece, because the anchor never acknowledged her own role in creating the mistrust, and pretended that it was external forces.

In the end, it read like a propaganda piece, with the NBC anchor leading the administrator through a set of talking points designed to re-assure the public that the cavalry is on the way and the vaccine is safe... while being very careful to avoid even mentioning the role that the current administration played in getting a vaccine out in less than a year.

This is a dangerous moment for the country. We lived through 8 years of hero-worship in the press. And then 4 years of hysterical coverage, disinformation and propaganda designed to undermine the administration. Now we have a new administration that is guaranteed to be unpopular simply because it is helmed by two quite unpopular politicians, even within their own base.

The initial move by the press seems to be to jump back in to hero-worship mode... but that isn't really going to fly for Harris/Biden.

The alternative press needs to step up at this moment. It can't be just Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity sniping from the far right. Every American who believes in the ideals of the enlightenment needs to stand up and do what they can to fix our 4th estate. It has been 12 years since we had a press that even pretended to be free and independent. I fear we cannot withstand another 4.

[Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)]

I can't believe I had to flag 3 SQRTSLY posts to get to this one. Some people get it, and some people are bat-shit crazy.

[SQRLSY One]

When are you going to learn that your MAGA-magic underwear will NOT protect you from the consequences of your assholeishness, oh empty-headed and arrogant one?

[Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)]

Flag.

[SQRLSY One]

Also may I suggest, humbly, that you put some FRESH BATTERIES in your MAGA-magic underwear? The klaxon warnings and the flashing red LEDs aren't working! For simple lack of power! Your foul stench is NOT enough warning to help us keep our distance! My nose, for example, is severely clogged today... PLEASE refresh your batteries, so I can be more reliably alerted to your foul presence!

[Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)]

Flag. Refresh.

[Quo Usque Tandem]

It has been so long since I have listened to much less watched any such "news" broadcasts, that I don't even know what AOC sounds like. I pulled the plug several years back as it all became propaganda to the point that one would have to either be very stupid, committed to their particular dogma, or just batshit crazy to not see it for what it is has so obviously become. So called "reporters" have no interest in reporting; they all want to be influencers and they all have a mostly shared agenda.

[Quo Usque Tandem]

The authority says, in the interest of protecting you, that services shall be online only. They shalt not be in person, nor in your presence, albeit in a steel cocoon through which you could not interact if you wanted to.

The rules are based on SCIENCE and SCIENCE shall not be questioned.

Prols gotta follow da rules. The ruling class, no so much. All are equal, some just inevitably more than others.

[Rat on a train]

But I don't have fast enough internet at home. I was coming to the church parking lot so I could connect to their wifi.

[Jerry B.]

So what is Newson in Canadian?

[Sometimes a Great Notion]

Yes but in their native tongue, his name is translated to Trudeau.

[Kungpowderfinger]

Trou du cul

[Minadin]

So, Sarto, Manitoba is an unincorporated community that consists of a general store, 2 churches, and about a dozen residences. They don't have a police force.

The RCMP were the ones that blocked the service, because Manitoba has a province-wide ban on in-person religious services (inside or out). This is another example of a one-size-fits-all solution failure. Rules that may seem reasonable for Winnipeg may not make much sense for a rural community of under 30.

[Quo Usque Tandem]

But Oh Canada loves its rules. It's what make them so much better. And as long as they keep electing douches like Trudeau, they are getting the government they fucking deserve.

[Ride 'Em]

So true. And why regulations don’t work across the country. But politicians insist that they know better because the science is settled. The only thing that is certain is that any scientist that says the science is settled is not a scientist. At best all they can say is that in their opinion or their research indicates that this is what is happening.

It was around the turn of the 20th century that the head of the patent office said it should be closed as there could not be any “new” inventions. And he was one of the top men. It is why Chevron should be overturned.

[Quo Usque Tandem]

"It is why Chevron should be overturned."

If nothing else that would keep Congress busy doing it's f'ing job.

[mad.casual]

It was around the turn of the 20th century that the head of the patent office said it should be closed as there could not be any “new” inventions. And he was one of the top men.

Slight disagreement with your point and actually an agreement with the head of the USPTO (though maybe not for the reasons he intended). He's a bureaucrat, not a scientist. Imagine Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell, and McCarthy saying Congress should be closed because could not be any "new" legislation to be written. I think it's pretty clear that for a while and both in Congress and at the USPTO, we've had people sitting around and doing nothing but inventing new reasons to commit ink to paper.

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[Brandybuck]

While we bash progressive Canada for this, don't forget that properly conservative and Trumpist Mississippi also went and ticketed people attending a drive-in church service in their cars. As much as you guys like to shit on California, we ain't ever done nothing like that.

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[JDoe]

This story was already out-of-date before it was even published. Several days ago, the province changed the rules to allow for drive-in services. So common sense and cooler heads prevailed in the end.

No word on if the fine(s) will be dismissed, yet, though a provincial court upheld them in one ruling so far.

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