Election 2020

Trump Says Mail-in Votes Are Suspicious Because They Overwhelmingly Favor Joe Biden. He's Wrong.

This isn't fraud. This isn't a scheme to steal the election. It is the very predictable outcome of the president's own words and actions.

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Even as dozens of states were expanding mail-in voting eligibility due to the COVID-19 pandemic, President Donald Trump spent months on the campaign trail telling his supporters not to cast their ballots that way.

"It shouldn't be mail-in voting. It should be you go to a booth and you proudly display yourself," Trump said in April, one of the first times that he spoke publicly on the issue. "You don't send it in the mail where people pick up—all sorts of bad things can happen by the time they sign that, if they sign that, by the time it gets in and is tabulated. No. It shouldn't be mailed in."

He beat that same drum for the next six months. Mail-in voting was risky and dangerous, he said. It would allow postal workers or other nefarious forces to alter or lose ballots. "Mail boxes will be robbed, ballots will be forged & even illegally printed out & fraudulently signed," he tweeted in May.

The result, unsurprisingly, is that Trump's supporters voted mostly in person on Election Day. As a result, the piles of mail-in ballots that are now being counted and that may prove to be decisive in several key states tend to favor former Vice President Joe Biden—in Pennsylvania, for example, Biden is getting 78 percent of the mail-in vote total, The New York Times reported today.

This isn't fraud. This isn't a scheme to steal the election. It is the very predictable outcome of the president's own words and actions.

Of course, Trump doesn't see it that way. Always one to play the victim, Trump used a Thursday evening press conference at the White House to suggest that "overwhelming" support for Biden among mail-in ballots is somehow suspicious.

"We were winning in all the key locations, by a lot, and then our numbers started getting magically whittled away," he said.

There's nothing magical happening here.

Indeed, some Republicans were warning about the potential pitfalls of Trump's anti–mail-in voting messaging months ago. In July, I interviewed former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge, a Republican (who later endorsed Biden), about Trump's mail-in voting strategy. Here's what Ridge said:

The idea that Republicans are disadvantaged by higher turnout is "nonsense," says Tom Ridge, the former Republican governor of Pennsylvania and former Secretary of Homeland Security under President George W. Bush. Ridge, who now serves as chairman of the National Organization on Disability, says there is no reason for states to force voters to choose between "your health or your vote" and stresses that political parties should feel an obligation to support policies that make it easier for Americans to participate in the electoral process, regardless of whether there is a pandemic.

When it comes to the gamesmanship of politics, Ridge wonders if Trump's repeated questioning of the legitimacy of mail-in voting could even end up hurting Republicans in the fall. If COVID-19 is raging in November, older voters that haven't requested an absentee ballot (or who weren't allowed to get one) might just stay home.

"Absentee voting gives neither party a political advantage, but the political party or the candidate that has a concerted, focused effort on encouraging absentee voting does have an advantage," he says. "It seems counterintuitive and counterproductive for the president to be opposed to it when, frankly, Republicans are going to have to use it."

In the months since, various experts have warned about the so-called "blue shift" that could occur after the election, as Trump's supporters headed to the polls in force on Election Day and Biden's mail-in vote calvary was counted in the days after.

It's also worth noting that Pennsylvania could have averted some of this mess by changing its law to allow mail-in ballots to be counted prior to the election. Republicans in the state legislature refused to do so. If they had, many of the votes now being tallied for Biden—votes that have nearly erased what was once a 700,000 vote lead for Trump in the state—may have been counted earlier.

Counting those votes earlier wouldn't have changed the outcome, of course, but it would have potentially avoided the appearance of a late comeback from Biden—and it is that appearance to which Trump is now objecting and using as the basis for his unsubstantiated claims of fraud.

In every way, what's happening now is the entirely predictable result of decisions that Trump and his allies made earlier in the year. If he and they do not like what they are seeing, it should be obvious where the blame rests.

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  1. It should be you go to a booth and you proudly display yourself

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    1. You are supposed to be inside the booth, dummy!

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  3. They’re outright alleging that dead people voted in Las Vegas.

    Should be easy to prove if that’s so.

    There are cases of voter fraud in every election. Call any of them fraudulent, and chances are you’ll dredge up something. Before you make any bold statements about what is or isn’t true, we might want to wait to see the evidence.

    Claiming there isn’t any fraud is just as ridiculous as claiming that fraud changed the results at this point.

    1. “The Trump Campaign is filing a federal lawsuit alleging voter fraud, claiming that roughly 10,000 people who cast ballots no longer live in Nevada. Trump currently trails Biden by more 11,000 votes in the state.”

      https://www.ktvn.com/story/42870106/cbs-news-republicans-plan-to-file-lawsuit-alleging-voter-fraud-in-nevada

      This may very well prove to be true. Tens of thousands of voters have left Las Vegas since the virus hit because the casinos were closed for so long–and thousands of them lost their jobs. If those people voted early and then left the state before election day, there may be a legitimate question as to whether they’re still eligible to vote in Nevada.

      1. What happens if you mail your ballot and then die?

        1. Try it next election to see.

        2. I suppose it depends on the laws in that state.

      2. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas!

    2. “They’re outright alleging that dead people voted in Las Vegas.”

      They allege that every time. And that illegals were bussed in by Soros by the 1000’s to vote dem. And that all the dems voted 2-4 times. And that every dead person in the county ever voted dem.

      Its getting old. The fairy tales have never been found to be true. But if you find an anecdote of a single person who ever heard of knowing someone that heard Bill Gates and George Soros conspired with the Clintons to rig the election, you would be sold that its rampant. Sorry for you that you are that easily fooled.

      Maybe consult your leader, he formed a commission on voter fraud to get to the bottom of why he got beat in the popular vote so bad by an unliked hag. He might have some answers, although, he did have to mysteriously disband it and never speak of it again, so maybe dont ask about it…

      1. They allege that every time. And that illegals were bussed in by Soros by the 1000’s to vote dem. And that all the dems voted 2-4 times. And that every dead person in the county ever voted dem. Its getting old. The fairy tales have never been found to be true.

        That’s because they are nearly impossible to verify, and because winners never have any interest in looking for election fraud.

        The US voting system is an embarrassment and a complete mess, and has been for decades. That has nothing to do with Trump, it’s a persistent problem.

        1. Afghanistan requires ID to vote, for christ’s sake

          1. States rights.

            1. (1) States can agree to uniform election rules; they agree to uniform rules for lots of other things.

              (2) Under Article IV, the federal government can, in fact, set requirements for how voting is conducted.

          2. Australia doesn’t, the UK doesn’t… why do you want the USA to be more like Afghanistan?

    3. No one is saying that there is ZERO fraud. Way to strawman.

      1. So which fraud are you admitting looks suspicious jeff.

        1. So which fraud are you admitting, looks suspicious jeff.f

          You forgot a comma.

      2. Pretty much everyone on television is saying “zero fraud.”

        1. You know how there is election fraud coverup for Biden?

          When Trump was 80,000-400,000 votes ahead of Biden, the media was hesitant to even change states that pink that is was leaning Republican.

          Biden is 1,000 votes ahead in Georgia and the MSM has Georgia as Blue.

          1. The media correctly predicted that there would be a majority of Biden votes among the postal ballots, which were last to be counted. Prescience isn’t fraud.

    4. Boehm thinks this is the first sparkling clean election ever.

      1. Yeah, like I said, there’s some fraud in every election–which is why if you look for it, you’ll find it eventually.

    5. The actual vote counts stopped mattering around 4 pm yesterday.

      This is going to be Bush vs. Gore on steroids. People will save themselves a lot of headaches by turning off the TV and waiting for the hearing to happen.

      1. This is what I’m telling people.

        It’s in the hands of the lawyers.

      2. Yup. Millions of those mailin ballots will be tossed.

        Mailin ballots requests in swing states were NOT all Democrat requests. Hundreds of thousands of republicans requested mailin ballots in swing states. Hundreds of thousands of non-affiliated ballots were also mailed out.

        Biden has some 73 million votes nationwide and Trump has 69 million. The difference of Which is almost entirely coming from California.

        Democrat election officials are holding Trump ballots until the end in the hopes Trump conceded.

        1. If that is their Goal, then they are delusional cause Trump is a Man who has only known one thing, and that is Winning. If Democrat Election Officials were to be successful at doing this, and Trump concedes, and it’s turned out Trump Won, then man, will a Revolution/Civil War would erupt and our Nation would further decent into further Chaos and Division.

          I think Trump will win at the SCOTUS level and assuming ACB doesn’t turn out to disappoint like Kavanaugh did with their Ruling that LGBTQ people can’t be fired if an employer doesn’t like their life style. Then Trump will win this Election via SCOTUS.

          1. Democrats are always on the wrong side of Civil wars too.

            The first one they started was partly over slavery.

            Civil War 2.0 is over most of America not accepting Socialism.

          2. “I think Trump will win at the SCOTUS level and assuming ACB doesn’t turn out to disappoint like Kavanaugh did with their Ruling that LGBTQ people can’t be fired if an employer doesn’t like their life style. Then Trump will win this Election via SCOTUS.”

            OMG you said the quiet part out loud bro

            Maybe you should hire this lady as your lawyer, she’s perfectly comfortable coming right out and saying that SCOTUS is “expected” to just go for Trump regardless of law or facts.

            https://twitter.com/i/status/1324478272734986241

      3. When the states declare a winner, it will matter. The Court will be extremely reluctant to do anything that will overturn it once the state declares a winner.

        1. What Ken said. So figure out who runs the states at issue, and you’ll figure out who won those electoral votes.

          1. So now explain the states that Trump is losing with a Republican in charge of elections.

    6. Ken Shultz: voice of rEASON

    7. > Claiming there isn’t any fraud is just as ridiculous as claiming that fraud changed the results at this point.

      This is absolutely true.

      But it’s in the same boat as “this time the election is a matter of life and death”. Every election that I can remember, and I remember how my mother was scared to death that communist McGovern was running against Nixon, the mantra has been that this election is the most important in all of history. We have now reached the point where there are so many people believing in that it’s a matter of time before elections result in actual violence. And it still might happen this cycle. From either side.

      Ditto for the vote fraud. I’ve heard about it since that same McGovern campaign. The dead voting in Chicago is a joke so old not even Henny Youngman bothered to use it. In 2008 there reports of ballot boxes just bobbing in the San Fransisco Bay (the premise being that California could have gone for McCain, hah). This current national pants shitting event is just more of the same.

      There are no credible reports, just hearsay and links to the dodgiest websites since Mosaic. The mysterious votes for Biden was just media misreporting. No actual miscounting is confirmed anywhere. No smoking guns, not even smoke, just some hazy Wednesday morning mist.

    8. I voted in Vegas in 2018 when I lived there, they have a really good system that I say is one of the best there is. You vote on a touchscreen and when you get to the end it asks you to review your vote, then when finished hit ACCEPT. When you do it prints a paper copy onto a cash register type roll that you can read through a heavy plastic window that has your selections, and unique bar code. That is completely sequestered and only exists as a paper backup in case of tampering or when the need to do an audit later arises.

      The only reason this year is so different is that mailed ballots have to be handled the way they were 50 years ago. There is really no speeding that up other than the optical scanners.

    9. You can look at the voter roles, and check who voted, at least in some states. I have been looking, and have found people who died years ago, but who applied for an absentee vote last year, and submitted their vote for the current election.
      People left on the voter roles when they move or pass away is something that is bound to happen. When they actually vote, it is a problem. And it does not happen by accident.
      I love it that everyone always quotes the Brennan Center. It lists itself as nonpartisan, but has never been so. It is run by Clinton’s special assistant for policy. If you look at their directors and leadership, every single person is a left-wing activist.

      Overall- what is suspicious about some of the mail-in votes in this election, is that they come in unlikely batches. The mail system serves to sort of shuffle votes, mixing those from rural areas with last minute urban votes. They will certainly tend one way or other, but when 10K votes show up in the same batch, and all of them are for the same candidate and also have the shared oddity of being ballots cast only for president, it is suspect.

      We live in an era when a great many people see themselves as ‘the resistance”, and literally at war with the current administration. To think that such people would not fool with ballots seems sort of naive. They have to do it. They are literally fighting fascism, at least in their own minds.

  4. The suspicious thing is not that mail-in votes favor Joe Biden.

    The suspicious thing is that the mail-ins were polled at going for Biden somewhere between 60% and 70% (with variations according to the political lean of the state), and this was the case in most states…except, for some reason, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, where Biden’s been gathering 80% to 90% of the mail-ins. The suspicious thing for some reason is that there have been several dumps of mail-ins that have been 100% for Biden in those three states. The suspicious thing is that in Milwaukee, Detroit, and Philadelphia, Republican poll watchers have been forcibly ejected from the polling stations despite the fact that they’re legally required to be there to ensure a fair election. The suspicious thing is that in Wisconsin they had turnout of 89% of all registered voters when the previous record for turnout was 73.4%. The suspicious thing is that Detroit and Milwaukee both have several precincts where the number of votes is larger than the number of voters.

    Coincidentally, you know what races haven’t been changed by these mail-in counts? Colorado hasn’t changed. Kentucky hasn’t changed. Florida(!) hasn’t changed.

    Now, if you were cynical, you might assume that something rotten is happening in the Upper Midwest. If you were an optimist, you would still assume there’s something rotten in the Great Lakes states. If you were ignorant, you wouldn’t be paying any attention. And if you were being willfully ignorant, purposefully obtuse, or cheerleading for one side because fuck the concept of free and fair elections, you’d write an article proclaiming that there’s nothing odd at all about these results and everyone should just shut up.

    So, Boehm…which type of person are you?

    1. You know exactly who Boehm is pulling for. The Dems are playing a hail mary by so brazenly trying to steal elections in multiple states, just as their top leadership had been hinting at for months. They’re desperate, and if they don’t succeed there’s a very real possibility that there will be indictments from top to bottom. They need the entire machine working at full capacity, hence “wild, unsubstantiated claims” taking the place of “peaceful protests” at Reason and other leftist outlets as the key narrative point.

      1. “Reason and other leftist outfits”

        Seriously? Reason is leftist? It’s hard to take you folks seriously when you post stuff like that.

        1. Almost everyone besides The Jacket has shifted pretty significantly away from libertarian towards Democrat cheerleader. I’ve been comment lurking since 2008. Obama era commenters were still more right-libertarian than the reason writers by a comfy margin. Except maybe Sheldon Richman.

        2. It’s hard to take any Trump supporter seriously at this point.

          1. We havent been taking Lefties seriously for decades.

            1. Lefties, huh? What next? A diatribe about Saul Alinksy?

              1. Alinksy the Commie?

          2. Even harder to take assholish TDS victims seriously.

          3. Chipper Morning Wood————————————————————————–
            November.5.2020 at 9:12 pm

            “It’s hard to take any Trump supporter seriously at this point.”

            Chipper, time to up your game if you ever had any game. With 25 Rules of Disinformation, can you not manage something better or are you just that limited.

          4. Youre a globalist and a biden supporter. Nobody takes you seriously. Youre giddy that a man who wants to raise taxes, push the GND, increase regulations, takeover all Healthcare, has voted for every war, increased jail time (this could go on for a while)…. won.

            Youre not a libertarian.

            1. “Youre giddy that a man who wants to raise taxes, push the GND, increase regulations, takeover all Healthcare, has voted for every war, increased jail time (this could go on for a while)…. [is blatantly stealing an election with fraud so obvious it would make Maduro nervous]”

              Fixed

            2. All of that is completely false. You sure like to lie, Jesse. Didn’t your parents teach you that it is wrong to lie? Don’t you feel any moral guilt for lying like that? Do you really want to go through the rest of your life like that?

              1. “All of that is completely false…”
                Assholish TDS victim, your stupidity ate your cites.
                Fuck off and die.

            3. and you got tricked into a cult for a guy that doesnt give a fuck about you or america

              that has a 3rd grade reading level

              and lost

              take the L and walk

              1. It’s not over yet.

              2. Biden lost?

            4. I suppose a month or two in Biden’s COVID lockdown would be an excellent opportunity for some introspection..

        3. Seriously? Reason is leftist? It’s hard to take you folks seriously when you post stuff like that.

          They largely voted for Biden/Harris. I’d say that makes them “leftist”.

          In what way do you think they are not “leftist”?

          1. I remember when Reason celebrated the president forcing the Patriot Act to expire and be shelved indefinitely, instead of expanded.
            Actually, I was mistaken. It was Trump who did that, so it went unnoticed, and was certainly not celebrated here.

        4. Sadly, Reason has gone Left at least since Trump won in 2016. They’re still good on some issues, but have come down with a serious case of Transnational idiocy. Is the Border Wall a great idea? That can be debated, but it became more or less inevitable once the ( self-anointed) Smart People stopped admitting that anyone in the country illegally was, ipso facto, a criminal. The people who were worked up about illegal aliens knew they were being dismissed as Dumb Hicks, and that’s no way to persuade anybody. A d there were too many of them to make dismissing them anything but dumb politics.

          Reason has bought into a LOT of Fascist Left drivel over the last few years. It isn’t the hard core facts and reality organization I loved in the 1990’s.

          Pity.

          1. The shift became noticeable by 2010 or 2011, but severe by the middle of 2015, and just magnified by Trump’s campaign and then election. And I agree with my friend John Pachak, it’s totally insincere. Sheer posturing. Product positioning. On many subjects, they no longer believe what they write. John doesn’t blame them, thinks they’re doing what they need to.

            1. I wouldn’t able to write garbage like unreason staffers write even I believed it.

          2. The Reason staff lives in CA and NY. They hang with other writers, primarily lefties, since most writers veer left. Eventually, the Reason staff becomes saturated with lefty talking points.

            It’s easy to see Trump as an asshole because 1) everyone around them sees Trump as an asshole and 2) Trump is an asshole . It’s easy to ignore Biden’s crooked dealings because everyone around them ignores Biden’s crooked dealings.

            Going along to get along is never new, but always disappointing.

          3. Meh. Reason hasn’t been an actual libertarian rag since before W got elected.

      2. Yup. Democrats first thought the could win on votes alone. That didnt work as evidenced by senate and House gains for the GOP around the USA.

        Next came not giving Trump EC momentum by calling states like they did for Biden, so Biden would concede.

        Then came not calling the last states Trump won to give him over 270 EC because they know Trump can claim victory.

        Then came delays in voting eventhough Texas counted over 10 million ballots in 8 hours.

        Then came magic mail in ballots that were 100% for Biden.

        Then came the MSM to make any challenge by Trump sound ridiculous.

        1. “Democrats first thought the could win on votes alone.”

          No, they haven’t thought this for at least a few weeks. They’ve had this plan in place for some time. The states at issue are not just battleground states, but those battleground states (notice the absence of Ohio, Florida, Colorado, Virginia) that the media and talking heads have been pushing as the states that would decide the election.
          They simply don’t care much about the House and Senate seats, and that should scare the hell out of those of you who would take comfort in the Senate (and courts) saving our freedom.
          It should also worry you that the fix isn’t all that sophisticated. They’re counting on apathy, .gov mandarins, and the combined efforts of Tech and Media (including FoxNews) to conquer you.

          They know that the majority of the populace will know the election was fraudulent.
          And. They. Don’t. Care.

          If you just felt a chill run down your spine and got a bit nauseous, then you’re beginning to understand the situation we’re in.

          1. Biden ran to avoid indictment. Plus he can pardon hunter.

            As you say, senate and house were icing on the cake.

            Bidens out in two years, so Harris can be the first Black woman president.

            That was the plan.

            I do think democrats will give up when Trump vs Biden results in a Trump win. The media like unreason will cover for the sudden change in heart that Bidens legal claims should be pursued.

          2. How long before they start machine gunning us from the palace?

            1. We’ll find out.
              I’d assume they’ll start with mass house arrest.
              Again.
              Covidnacht part deux

              1. Holy fuck you’re actually comparing yourself to a Jew under Hitler hahahahahah, fuckin Jesus Christ get a grip for your own sake at least.

                1. No, you stupid shit – I’m talking about taking the country down the fucking road the Soviets, Nazies, CCP, Chavez and Maduro took their countries down.

                  That you lack the intellectual ability and psychological fortitude to connect the dots between the night of broken glass and government imposed shut downs + nightly riots that destroyed millions of small businesses is unfortunate, but not surprising.

                  You don’t have an IQ high enough for this conversation, dimwit.

                  1. That’s why he’s a leftist.

                2. ‘bignose’, really? As a throwaway handle for a comment about Jews. I love it when the lefties think they are winning and forget that they are pretending not to be racist. You bigots are vile.

            2. You’re being a touch facetious, and I agree—the Biden Battalions aren’t going to be killing Rightwingers in their homes this year or next. Probably.

              But consider how fast things have changed, over the last ten years or so. Also consider that if this incredibly slipshod fraud becomes accepted, all of the other previously unbelievable actions by public officials are not only not punished, they’re rewarded beyond their dreams. Things like deliberately shutting down their states, to plunge the country into recession. Ignoring widespread rioting, looting, and other violence, unless of course, the violence came from someone defending themselves or their property. Things like wholesale censorship of anything hinting at scandal from one side.

              If that bad behavior gets rewarded, where will the boundaries be pushed next? Eventually, you do end up with Night And Fog decrees, gross expropriation, Re-Education camps. The desire to have these is present and growing within the Left’s decision-makers. They just lack the ability, so far.

              It can happen here.

              1. Totally agree. I’d add only this: if nothing is done, do you think the Republican base will go quietly next time? If this is not stopped, it can only get worse.

                1. “…if nothing is done, do you think the Republican base will go quietly next time?”

                  Why wouldn’t they? They haven’t fought so far. Consoling themselves with the cope—as yet unproven—that, “At least we still have the Senate!”, isn’t helping. As for the fraud, Larry Correia (former accountant and auditor) makes some great points about it at his blog, here: https://monsterhunternation.com/2020/11/05/the-2020-election-fuckery-is-afoot

                  Let the jury box do its work, for the time being. If it fails, and this wholesale fraud is rewarded, there isn’t going to be a better time than now for Trump’s base to open that 4th box. It only gets worse from here.

              2. Letting a Kungflu hysteria and mail-in ballot scam reward Democrats for cheating, they will do it again.

              3. This is why they have to be stopped, no matter what. If the courts fail us, more will be required. The battle will likely move to the streets.

              4. http://twitter.com/selfdeclaredref/status/1324824141887873025?s=19

                The mob is real. They want you branded for life for supporting a President they don’t like.

        2. I think they knew they weren’t going to win on votes alone, which is why they spent much of last year pushing mail-in voting and stripping away even the most basic verification requirements. What they didn’t count on, I think, was the degree of support Trump would actually have. Hence, the bizarre late-night shutdowns in key cities (Atlanta, Philly, Milwaukee, Detroit) followed almost immediately by the convenient discovery of +100k ballots, 100% of which were Biden, and many of which did not vote for any other race on the ballot.

          Not suspicious at all.

          1. Georgia Secretary of State is Republican. Georgia is conservative. While Atlanta is controlled by Democrats.

            Georgia will at least have a chance to call out the election fraud and not certify until its resolved.

            PA, WI, MI, NC, NV, and AZ might not be so lucky.

            1. This is the way to analyze the likely result, IMHO. Who controls the Secretary of State, controls whether the ballots are certified. Which is why there was a push by the Left to dump money into SoS races a short time ago.

              Honestly, I’m down for chucking all of the old results. Have instead a one day, everybody re votes in person. Dip the finger in ink. Present proof of residency and citizenship. Have .mil oversee it and count it. Release the results all at once.

              Then, what happens, happens.

        3. You know that “calling” states and conceding have precisely zero legal weight, right? It is completely irrelevant who the media say won a state. A concession is just PR, it is the Electoral College that decides the election result and those votes are based on the certified winner of each state, not which candidate declares victory or defeat.

      3. If the courts fail us, then it will have to be settled in the streets

    2. Did you read the article? States like Florida did not change because they allowed early counting of the mail-in ballots so they could be reported with the same day votes. If Trump had told the Pennsylvania legislature to get the votes counted early he would have know he lost PA on election night. A least this way he can stretch out the whine for several days.
      By the way it is reported that even in Republican areas of PA the early votes now being counted were the Biden votes. So it is a consistent pattern across the state, Biden voters were the early absentee voter and Trump the later same day.

      1. Trump is fighting election fraud even in states that he beat Biden but the MSM wont declare them.

        Trump was correct about Democrats spying on his campaign illegally and hes right about this election fraud attempt.

      2. Pennsylvania is still claiming they don’t know how many ballots they have left. It is an open ended count for them. They have affidavits and videos showing people changing date stamps. Wisc and Michigan still have explained tens of thousands of pure Biden vote batches, a statistical impossibility. They are still blocking gop ballot watchers from many locations to the point trump sued and won. Pennsylvania counter sued to disallow gop ballot watchers. This is a joke and any honest person knows it.

        1. WI stopped updating after the media called that state for Biden. Trump was only down 21,000 votes and was gaining.

          The Lefty media wont call PA eventhough Trump is up 89,000 votes.

          1. Note here that 100% of the Wisconsin votes are counted so I don’t know where Trump will get additional votes.
            By the way Jo Jorgensen has almost 2 times the spread for Biden/Trump so she may have been a spoiler, maybe not. Somewhat like Jill Stein in 2016.

            1. The MSM is misrepresenting total votes counted, so those % counted mean almost jack shit.

              Won’t matter anyway. Millions of those mail-in ballots are getting tossed.

              Trump vs. Biden will have Trump win reelection.

              1. If it doesn’t, then a revolution will become necessary.

    3. That’s not suspicious at all. Trump told his followers not to mail in their ballots. Combine that with the Democrats being a lot more cautious about the pandemic, and it is easy to see why the mail-in ballots are like 80% for Biden.

      1. Millions of mail in ballots will be tossed.

        4 more years of Trump as President.

        1. You are about to find out you live in a blue state. Enjoy.

          1. No team chipper everyone.

          2. Poor chipper. Georgia was a blue state. When democrats ran things and started that first civil war.

            All the Lefties that leave their states to try to turn GA Blue make their old states turn more Red.

        2. BTW, the Republicans are running the elections in Georgia. So go ahead and cry about fraud.

          1. BTW, the Republicans are running the elections in Georgia. So go ahead and cry about fraud.

            Elections and election fraud happen at the local level, not the state level.

            1. Election policies and procedures are set at the state level.

              1. Great..well the Georgia legislature never voted to allow mail in ballots to be accepted for counting after 7pm on election day. All those mail in ballots will be thrown out.

                BTW: trump is winning Georgia and will win Georgia.

                1. Noticed Biden’s “lead” in Az is only 40,000 now.

                  Trump won PA, AK, NC, GA, and AZ.

                  Trump relection.

                  I cant wait until the courts throw out millions of mail-in ballots and you Lefties cry about unfair elections.

                  1. Not gonna happen, sorry, kid. And I don’t think you grasp the concept that all these mail-in ballots being counted right now are not late ballots.

                    1. Totally not a leftist. Wink wink.

                    2. Then 4 more years of Trump after the SCOTUS gives Trump vs Biden goes for Trump.

                    3. Notice the actual absentee ballots of military are giving Trump 80% more votes every update.

                    4. So much cry I’ve filled several buckets with Jesse, Nard and LC tears.

                    5. So Mary Stack is calling the election for Biden?

                      Lefties still cant accept Trump beat Hillary in 2016.

                      If this was fair in person voting and Trump lost, so be it. It clearly wasnt because Democrats got their ass handed to them in House districts and US Senate GOP victories.

                      Common denominator with Biden being barely ahead is Mail-in ballot dumps and ballot watchers being excluded.

                  2. yeah they should definitely throw out all those fraudulent military ballots.

              2. You mean the local areas like Houston that disobeyed state rules? God youre really ignorant.

              3. Election policies and procedures are set at the state level.

                If voter fraud happens, it is in violation of state policies and procedures, and it is carried out by local governments. In particular, Democrats in Democratic cities are the ones capable of enabling and shielding voter fraud, in violation of state law.

          2. No they are not dumb dumb. A republican is the secretary of state. He cant control everyone that counts votes.

            Democrats do the counting because they know that how you fix elections. Its a great scam.

            I would never cheat myself or advocate cheating in an election because if we dont have fair elections, our country doesnt need to be a nation.

        3. We might get two years of trump. The other two will be lame duck trump.

      2. You keep repeating leftist talking points as fact. The initial estimates of these states were 65 to 35 for mail in ballots, they are showing above 90 in manu districts. Youre a fucking leftist.

      3. Trump told his followers not to mail in their ballots. Combine that with the Democrats being a lot more cautious about the pandemic

        It is a complete fallacy that any majority of people who vote for Trump are ‘followers’ that pay attention to the ridiculous shit he says. Voting in Texas on Tuesday, I spent 30 seconds waiting in line at the poll. So many people had voted early or by mail that there was little wait for anyone. The part about Democrats being more cautious is just outright fabrication. Minorities in particular are far more concerned about their ballots not being counted than they are about COVID, but a lot of Karens are republican too.

        Try again, without making up shit more invalid than anything Trump has said.

    4. The suspicious thing is that in Milwaukee, Detroit, and Philadelphia, Republican poll watchers have been forcibly ejected from the polling stations despite the fact that they’re legally required to be there to ensure a fair election.

      Can you provide a citation for this claim?

      1. So you enjoy being intentionally ignorant? Google it. They have videos. There was a fucking lawsuit over it that trump won dumbass.

        1. Googled it and found nothing. Only video was some lady asking to be let in a satellite polling station, not a polling place. You can read the fact check report and see this does not qualify.

          1. Fact check…By Lefties.

            In other words, NOT checked.

          2. There was a fucking lawsuit over it that trump won dumbass.

            This literally happened this week and M4E can’t find it? I suppose he can’t find his ass with both hands either.

    5. Interesting how these rather strange irregularities only happened in the states the media spent weeks telling us would decide the election.
      Kinda weird that they all suspended counting ballots at just about the exact same time on November 3rd too.

      The fix is blatant and happening in multiple states, all in the exact same manner.
      This whole shitshow just shows us how little our prospective rulers (and yes, that is exactly what they intend to be) respect us – both their opponents and their supporters.
      They clearly don’t think their opponents have the will or way to stop them, and they just as clearly know their supporters will support their seizure of power without objection.

      Make no mistake: if the left is able to successfully steal the presidency and oust Trump, they will have a mandate – and they will act with the full force and cruelty bestowed upon them with that mandate.

      1. It happened in florida in 2000 too.

      2. The fix is blatant and happening in multiple states, all in the exact same manner.
        This whole shitshow just shows us how little our prospective rulers (and yes, that is exactly what they intend to be) respect us – both their opponents and their supporters.
        They clearly don’t think their opponents have the will or way to stop them, and they just as clearly know their supporters will support their seizure of power without objection.

        Make no mistake: if the left is able to successfully steal the presidency and oust Trump, they will have a mandate – and they will act with the full force and cruelty bestowed upon them with that mandate

        Forget what I wrote yesterday. If Reason ever did start quoting comments, this post from you, Nardz, should be right up there. (They’d probably remove the profanity.)

        You’ve stated the stakes here.

    6. |The suspicious thing is that in Milwaukee, Detroit, and
      |Philadelphia, Republican poll watchers have been forcibly ejected
      |from the polling stations despite the fact that they’re legally
      |required to be there to ensure a fair election.

      I don’t know about Wisconsin and Michigan, but I know in PA that in order to be a poll watcher, you need to be registered with the department of elections AND be registered to vote in the county where you are poll watching. If you aren’t registered as a poll watcher, you are not allowed in the building where they are counting. With the general disorganization in the Trump campaign. I find it easy to believe that they didn’t get enough people registered as poll watchers. If that’s the case, it would be the Trump campaign’s fault they don’t have enough poll watchers, not PA’s.

      |The suspicious thing is that in Wisconsin they had turnout of 89%
      |of all registered voters when the previous record for turnout was
      |73.4%. The suspicious thing is that Detroit and Milwaukee both
      |have several precincts where the number of votes is larger than
      |the number of voters.

      Both Wisconsin and Michigan allow voter registration on election day. If there is a large turnout and a large number of people registering on election day, and you use the number of registered voters from before election day in your calculation, it is definitely possible to get very high percentages, even over 100%. For example, say that just before election day, there are 100 people registered to vote in a precinct. 60 of them vote, but 50 people register on election day and vote. 110/100 = 110%.

      1. Your citation fell off as to why these poll watchers were excluded.

    7. Every one of your claims has been debunked over and over. Get a life.

  5. Nothing to see here.
    Trust the system and go to sleep.

  6. Interesting that so many “fake” ballots showed up to flip the presidency to Biden, but they somehow forgot to flip the extremely important senate races (which would have an enormous impact on the SCOTUS if anything were to happen). I guess they left them blank? Or voted R to keep everyone fooled? Just halfway cheating?

    Sometime you clowns will have to reconcile with the fact that your leader is not liked, he is a loser, and he lost. Get over it, take the L and move on. You are starting to look like Hillary and the sad dems after 2016.

    1. Michigan: Senate race flipped from James (R) to Peters (D) very late by a similar margin.
      Wisconsin and Pennsylvania: no Senate races.

      Huh. Almost as if they didn’t forget about the Senate.

      1. Add Perdue in Georgia. The lead was 4 in the wee hours election night. It’s now 2. But more importantly, it’s now in Runoff Land.

        1. Stacey Abrams has been setting this up since she lost in 2018.
          Possibly before then.

          1. Democrats learned from Hillary and abrahms defeats that they cant win by legal votes so they have to use election fraud en masse to win.

  7. You have no fucking information on this at all. You did no investigative journalism to find out the facts. You hate Donald Trump so you believe he’s automatically wrong.

    That is not journalism, it’s partisanship and it makes this reason koch pile of dogshit even smellier than it’s ever been. Nobody trusts you.

    1. Say what you really feel..

      1. He is so salty.

    2. Alright you got facts put them up. Or are they on Hunter Biden’s laptop?

      1. Trumps legal briefs say it all.

        The MSM is trying to protect Democrat election fraud.

        1. The legal briefs that got laughed out of court?

          1. Good, the cases will go to the SCoTUS faster that way and Amy Barrett , Kavanaugh, alito, thomas, and gorsuch will give the much anticipated Trump vs Biden election win for Trump..

            Thanks for playing the game dipshits. You want war, you got it.

            1. Trump Election War — just as successful as Trump Steaks, Trump Shuttle, Trump Casino, and Trump University!

              In several states, traditional, effective Republican Party elections lawyers have not participating in representation of the Trump campaign. Instead, the Trump campaign is sending inexperienced, downscale lawyers from hick towns to argue for him.

              1. Its an easy argument. Mail-in ballots led to massive election fraud and any mail-in ballot scheme not sanctioned by the state Legislatures violate Article I of the US Constitution and should be tossed.

        2. Great can you link to them so we can see the evidence?

          1. The media wont link the cases so I can find them.

            Not all states have online access to court filings and most of these election cases will start in state courts. Looking on PACER.

            Funny that some state courts are limited staffing because of Kungflu hysteria too.

  8. What a horrible article

    You have to be a fool, or complicit, to say that there is nothing heinous going on, orchestrated by the corrupt DNC machine and their enablers.

    FFS what has happened to Reason

    1. They are treasonous shitbag Lefties and anarchists that want America to burn.

      Runaway national debt, corrupt election fraud, Civil War… it all gets to that end result.

      1. go head bro, start it off, go kill your neighbors, let’s go, you’re the man
        you’re the alpha
        get your dip on, strap up, throw on those fingerless gloves and those tactical shades

        you got this bro

  9. All legit elections are decided by votes that come in after the polls close.

    1. They haven’t even started counting those. This is all election day stuff or mail-ins that came in by election day.

      1. Citation fell off…again.

      2. Everywhere else got it done except where Biden was losing late into the night – its all mysteriously a Donkey-orchestrated slow-walk going into three days now.

        1. It’s no mystery. The states that got it done on election night allowed the counting of mail in ballots before election day. In Michigan, Wisconsin and PA, they couldn’t start counting until election day, after the polls open. And with such a big turnout, they probably couldn’t even start counting until after the polls closed. In PA, the Democrats wanted to allow counting before election day, but the Republican legislature wouldn’t allow it. So in PA at least, the reason this is taking so long is the Republican’s fault.

          1. To some degree, watching the extended, fatal bleed-out — Trump’s loss predictable or even obvious relatively early in the week to any informed, reasonable observer, but developing very slowly (and for Republicans painfully) in an endless series of drips — was more fun. Thanks for the good time, Pennsylvania Republican legislators!

          2. PA Legislature also didnt allow mail-in ballots, so millions of them will get tossed by PA Governor violating Article I of the US constitution.

          3. In Michigan, Wisconsin and PA, they couldn’t start counting until election day, after the polls open. And with such a big turnout, they probably couldn’t even start counting until after the polls closed.

            Except you contradict yourself. The turnout on Tuesday was much less than it otherwise would have been because of the mail-in voting.

  10. Yeah you guys hould definitely keep up with the strategy of denouncing and censoring anyone who even questions the shady parts of this election. That has worked out so well for you up until this point.

    “Well, gee. They are just so earnest about not wanting any investigation. Maybe this time they really are as pure as the driven snow!”

    1. Democrats have to use voter fraud and magical mailin ballot counts to win.

      They know they need Biden to pardon them for crimes.

    2. Yeah, Boehm, why won’t you take wild unsubstantiated claims seriously? What are you, a Democrat hack?

      1. I cant wait for Trump vs Biden and 4 more years of Trump.

        John roberts cant save Biden now with Barrett on the SCOTUS.

      2. Tell us about the russians again sweetie.

        1. Boehm will of course write article after article blasting Biden for contesting his loss to Trump.

          “All Biden’s elections claims are ridiculous” Boehm will write. “Having the SCoTUS throw out illegally counted ballots is the correct decision.” Says Boehm.

          Yeah right. Boehm is lying and ignorant hack. He is an absolute moron on economic matters.

      3. You are such a disingenuous fucktard! It is the job of journalists to investigate. They don’t get to say ‘unsubstantiated’ until they do.

  11. How are libertarians – so skeptical about government power and mistrustful of authority – stamping their feet insisting that there is no voter fraud? Our governments don’t do anything well, right?

    Except elections. You know, the part that allows them to continue their shady dealings and expand their power. There’s no way that any of the tens of millions of ballots were fraudulently cast. Suddenly people and political parties and local and state governments are totally reliable and would never cheat to help their favored candidate win.

    It is possible to dislike Trump and wish this whole mess were over but STILL acknowledge possible voter fraud. This is the second piece by Boehm on this topic that I have read today. Someone please give him a xanax and a martini.

    1. It’s quite curious.
      Reason is quick to accuse other countries of authoritarian sham votes, usually with no more evidence than some NGO’s assertion.
      But in the US, where such authoritarian shenanigans would have greater effect on their personal lives, they dismiss the possibility of fraud in spite of massive amounts of evidence.
      Not exactly consistent with their stated anti-authoritarian preferences…

      1. Unreason will be blathering for months after we have Trump vs Biden election cases before the SCOTUS and democrats are handed the Biden defeat.

        Democrats are desperate to play dirty with the mailin ballot scam, so the courts will toss out millions of mailin ballots.

    2. In the beginning I thought that the Democrats might win even if recounts and audits are done. But after all of this protesting I’m 99% sure they know the fraud is real.

      Remember how for months they were saying Trump was going to cheat and steal the election? I guess they weren’t referring to the conventional definition of stealing an election, or wouldn’t they be on board with investigations?

      1. And I am kind of conflating Dems with some of the writers here. Boehm, I believe, said he was voting for Viden.

      2. Democrat project. so when they said there would be a Trump election theft, democrats actually meant themselves would do it.

      3. Dems are always transparent in their accusations against others – take Russian involvement for example. That’s precisely what the democrats, not trump, was guilty of. Same here. At least they telegraph their illegal strategies. It’s almost like they want to get caught. Either that or they are mocking their opponents with how much power they have (Biden declaring on camera his organized voter fraud was the best in political history comes to mind).

        1. You know, if Biden didn’t say crazy shit all the time, people would have noticed his Freudian slip. Imagine the media response if Trump had inadvertently said, “We have the best, most luxurious, organized voter fraud in history.”

      4. “In the beginning I thought that the Democrats might win even if recounts and audits are done. But after all of this protesting I’m 99% sure they know the fraud is real.

        Remember how for months they were saying Trump was going to cheat and steal the election?”

        Projection is what the Modern Left does. To know what they have planned, merely listen to what they accuse their opponents of doing.

  12. Every jurisdiction with 5-sigma outlier noise from any norm – manifest in the form of delays, batch-dumps, radio-silence, holds, certification BS, etc. is a Donkey jurisdiction – and the oddities amplify in proportion to knowing the margin and where one needs to shore it up. And with all the big moves pulled in dead of night.

    Has anyone noticed how odd it is only these states are now going into 72-hours of slow-walk for Biden, almost keying off each other?

    And even the Reason flack feigns disinterest. Its like a guy from MUFON awakened by a blinding flash discovers aliens have landed and are scurrying around his front yard while USMIL personnel run around with snares trying to grab’em – but chalks it up to Venus and goes back to bed.

    As the orange tormentor would say: “Sad.”

  13. Poor Boehm. He’s on board with election fraud.

    I hope million of those mailin ballots get tossed. Governors cannot authorize changes to election law only state legislatures. Article I says that.

    Boehm knows hes a piece of shit. Watch he will support Biden legal challenges when Trump wins PA, GA, NC, AK, and AZ and gets relected.

  14. I voted in Cali for years. It doesn’t matter if you use mail or show up at the polls. If they don’t like your votes, they’ll “lose” them. Turns out I only voted in the Cali Dem primary in ’16 but not the general election when I voted Johnson. I showed up both times at the polls. Go figure.

    1. We are so divided at this point watching the voting % by State we should just really divide into two countries. Pro Liberty States can take the south and upper midwest and far west (sans WA and Oregon)…say the dividing line is Virginia (the northern part of the state can be moved to MD) and have a Pacific corridor between SF and LA (and keep everything south of LA as part of the Free States of America. The peoples states can keep NY, NE, and the coast but like Pakistan in the old days you would have West and East Peoples states..the free states can go to a gold standard and outlaw all pubic sector unions and have the federal govt only do what is allowed for in the Constitution. The Free states will keep all the nukes…The People’s states can keep the debt and the Fed. jefferson would be in agreement I’m sure.

      1. Or we could hang all the treasonous zombies who let the media work them into a frenzy over trump not being on board with globalist agendas. This of course, after the civil war that they insist we participate in.

        1. A civil war will hasten the Great Reset that so many of our leaders evidently think is a great idea. Unfortunately, so will 10 years of left-wing rule in the US, with additional disease-related restrictions, carbon rationing, and other means that will destroy the middle classes in this country.

          I don’t have an answer.

  15. Magic.

    I have a few tricks capable of amazing the kiddos. No more.

    “Put your card, don’t show me, back in the deck.”

    “Was it this one? The ten of hearts?”

    “How did you do that Saba?”

    “Do you want to learn the trick?”

    “No Saba show me how to climb the tree.”

    So D Trump. I do not know who will win the election. Nobody won our hearts. The democrats robbed us of it and then you did.

  16. I think the easy answer here is we will see you in court. I have noted that Trump is all talk and little action. When it comes to court cases he fold pretty quick. He is usually good up to the point were he had to show evidence or provide testimony (his or his subordinates) at about that time he folds. I expect nothing less here.

    All that said if he has evidence let’s see it. If not all this talk of cheating is fake news.

    1. Trump has beat you Lefties with all your stupid plans that backfire. The mailin allot scam is no different.

      SCOTUS will hand Trump the victory just like Bush vs Gore.

      1. Better start organizing the militias locally now.

  17. They need to explain why they stopped counting and then the “Biden” votes started to come in. If it is true that bags of votes that were 100% for Biden came into Detroit or Philly or Milwaukee in the middle of the night..sorry its beyond belief. My parents were democratic party members in Rochester NY and they told me how this game is played. The more rural or suburban areas were run by the GOP who always had their shit together and had their votes quick..the city always took “longer” and unless the lead for the GOP candidate was very large the city always “found” new votes always democratic. Mail in votes should ALL be discounted unless the name matches..you can use AI for that. And NO mail in ballots should be counted at all unless they come in before election day. The real solution is to have fat ass Americans actually vote in person and check the ID..have open voting for a few weeks up to election day. Texas has had that for years and no one complains.

    And the Dems said Russia/Putin rigged the election in 2016…well we know now its our own bolsheviks doing it today.

    1. The real solution is to have fat ass Americans actually vote in person and check the ID..have open voting for a few weeks up to election day.

      That’s the way other countries do it. Except, instead of being open for a “few weeks”, you have to be there on election day unless you have a medical exemption.

      The US voting system is ridiculous: it encourages fraud, is rife with errors, and can’t realistically be audited.

  18. Instead of calling Trump a liar yet again, perhaps Boehm and Reason can explain why:
    – a half dozen states stopped counting ballots around midnight on election night when Trump had had huge leads,
    – hundreds of thousands of votes for Biden suddenly appeared in the middle of the night in WI and MI,
    – Philadelphia officials set up the convention center to prevent poll watchers from being able to witness the vote counts,
    -PA’s AG declared that Biden had won PA on election night,
    – Reason and Boehm have refused to report about Hunter Biden’s laptop and its e-mails, which (along with similar refusals by 95% of the propaganda media) helped Biden get elected.

    1. I”m sure Boehm like the Reason folks lives in a NYC or DC. The problem with Reason is the staff all are cosmo wokes not real libertarians…they actually hate real libertarians but this is the best gig they can get since they can’t get into their wet dream the NYT or WAPo…

    2. My last sentence inaccurately implied that Biden has already won the election. Unless/until convinced otherwise by actual evidence, I can only assume that Democrats (in large Democrat controlled cities and counties) have been trying to steal this election from Trump.

      1. If Democrats and their media whores actually believed Biden won they would have called the election for him.

        Whoever gets over 270 EC in the news has a huge advantage.

        Because they know the Biden wont win and dont want to be wrong.

    3. It wasn’t a very nuanced article. There seems to be a lot at play here end not because we have over-active imaginations. The DNC kinda hinted they were up to something when they kept asking Trump if he’d accept the result of the elections. Or how about Hilary telling Biden to not concede under any circumstances.

      Sounds like they were setting a trap knowing full well they were going to play around with mail-order which even frickin Jimmy Carter said was ripe for fraud and abuse.

      This sort of stuff is right in the DNC’s wheelhouse. The party of Tammany Hall, Huey Long and the Chicago Way rigged its own primaries for the love of God. So it’s no a stretch they may have tried their luck with some fraud here. I wonder if internal polling showed they were going to get pummelled and figured they had nothing to lose if this turns out to be true – and my hunch says some BS was taking place on some level.

      1. The biggest tell was Biden’s saying they’d put together such a great election fraud organization.

        1. Nah, the biggest tell was insisting on mail in votes. Everyone knew what they meant. Even dems knew. The sad part is, I don’t think I would passively allow fraud like that. I mean, I wouldn’t be out protesting against my preferred party (because I fucking don’t care enough – it’s a uniparty of corruption) but I would be a disapproving voice in my interactions with people online and IRL. I’ve yet to hear a single dem skeptical of the potential for mail in vote fraud.

          1. +10000000000000

  19. Maybe it depends on the state. Only 37% of mail-in ballots in NC were sent to team blue members while team red can claim 32%. It would seem odd if team blue claimed 90% of the mail-ins.

  20. From what I understand, a lot of those ballots are fraudulent is the argument. Plus there was a lot of funny business also not allowing Republican representatives to observe counting, Sharpie-Gate in AZ, and possible tossing of ballots.

    I heard Levin explain in detail how PA changed the rules by going around the legislature. The whole scheme was planned and sounds unconstitutional.

    Maybe I’m an old farted Canadian who admires Dudley-Do-Right too much but the election was NOVEMBER 3. It’s November 5th and they’re still counting. Retarded.

    How the GOP didn’t move to stop any of this shit prior is crazy. I say fight.

    1. Article I of the us constitution says only state legislatures and congress can change election laws. Blue governors that allowed mailin ballots or changed voting rules because kingflu are going to get millions of mailin ballots tossed.

    2. Trump tried for months to stop mailin ballots. He was right about illegal spying on his campaign and hes right about election fraud by democrats.

    3. And Facebook apparently nuked Levin’s page in response to the video he posted.
      That Big Tech is going to the lengths they are to suppress talk of what’s happening should set off pretty big alarm bells.

      1. It does dude. And we can easily deduce what is in store for us because of all this collaboration. The perfect storm of all these polarizing issues is culminating into the reality that we are being dragged into a color revolution.

        The collaboration by media (even fox turned coat) and corporations and federal agencies is too much to be mere coincidence.

        1. All of this. These are the actions of companies that don’t think they’ll ever be dragged in front of a court or Congress to explain their actions if one guy wins, so why not go all the way to help make that one guy the winner?

          We cannot continue like this.

  21. So what percentage of mail-in ballots are being rejected? I’ve seen nothing on this. It should be higher than the usual % of rejected/invalid absentee ballots with all those new to voting by mail or even voting at all. Are there any statistics on the split between participation (ballot returned) and votes cast (successfully voting with a legally compliant ballot)?

    We were told before the election about the usual high rate of absentee ballot rejection and how it was much higher in primaries and special elections held since the start of the pandemic.
    That’s why, first Trump, and later the Dems began advising in-person early voting or waiting until election day.

    1. I found this interesting. Seems Trump has some options.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIRlCOu4onI

      Pretty amazing how they refused Rep. observers into the counting rooms!

  22. Take a look at the screenshots in this thread:

    http://twitter.com/adamhousley/status/1324510654565216257?s=19

    The bots right now are insane…proving what federal agents told me was going to happen.

  23. LJB, Box 13, 1948.
    JFK, Chicago cemeteries, 1960.
    Al Gore, Bush elector blackmail, 2000.
    Christine Gregoire, plastic mail tray, 2004.
    Al Franken, 1099 felons, 2008.
    Gil Cisneros, mail in ballots provided by Dean Logan, 2018.

    Nothing to see here, move along, don’t get any bright ideas all you sheep.

    This comment not approved by Silicon Valley brain slugs.

    1. What about B-1 Bob Dornan?
      No one disputes the margin of his defeat was greatly exceeded by the number of non citizens who voted in his congressional district.

  24. What a whiney fucking bitch! Reminds me of Nardz, Jesse, Sevo, Red Rocks, LC.

    1. Just remember, bitch, your side got beat by a reality TV star in 2016. You’ll never be able to clean that stain off, just like the one perpetually crusting in your drawers.

      1. Yeah yeah yeah, eat a dick! I’m more concerned about trying to clean up the shit stain thats been put on this already great country of mine the last five years.

        1. You will have to wait for Democrat presidential candidate to ever win the white house again.

          Trump bs Biden will ensure 4.5 more years of Trump.

        2. Yeah yeah yeah, eat a dick!

          Your personal fantasies are none of our business.

    2. Poor Lefties cried for 8 years of Trumps presidency about Hillary and Biden losing to a reality show star and businessman.

  25. What a pathetic human being this con man President is.

    So tell me, Boehm, are you folks at Reason finally going to start warning everyone what a danger this man is to our republic? You’re way late. And please stop with the both parties do it BS…one does. He’s demanded that his AG arrest and prosecute his political rivals, he’s only shown respect for other authoritarians, he openly asked for Russian help in his election, he’s told you over and over that he won’t respect any outcome in an election in which he loses because any time he loses it must be due to fraud, he’s openly asked for vote counting to be stopped anywhere he had been leading but the lead is waning, and he’s asked for vote counting to continue where he’s losing. Is any of that a hint to you?

    I’m not sure what is more pathetic…this whining con man President, his sycophants who comment here, or all the writers at Reason with their tepid criticism of this fascist for the last 4 years.

    But you all deserve each other. You’re all the last people I want entrusted with liberty.

    1. this fascist

      LOL, if only. You’d already be feeding worms if that was the case. Instead you’ve burned your own cities and have been screeching about fascism with no real, actual consequences for four years now (just like the last Literally Hitler that’s tagged whenever a Republican wins).

      Yep, you sure showed us!

      1. Mercy was Trump’s greatest mistake.

        1. weakness, obesity, sub 80 IQ, and losing were his biggest mistakes

          not too much different than yourself (maybe you arent obese? otherwise it all tracks)

          take the L, take a walk, be thankful an antifa beta male hasnt curb stomped you yet

          1. Such weak effort.
            Perhaps full effort, and a complete lack of ability.
            Bye, eunuch.

      2. It’s buttplug. He conciders anyone opposed to kiddy porn to be a facist

    2. Oh, and just like I reminded your little buttboy above, your side will forever be known to have lost to Trump in 2016. That shit has really got to sting.

      1. You elected Trump. We lost to a piece of shit. You put it in your mouth and swallowed it.

        1. Trump beat you Lefties over and over and over.

          Trump vs Biden will be another victory for Trump.

          1. you lost

            eat the L

            1. Poor new troll.

              4 more years of Trump term will be better than the last 4 years of Trump as President.

              1. Even funnier will be unreason changing their position that Biden’s claims pf election fraud are more valid than Trump’s claims of election fraud when this goes Trump vs Biden in SCOTUS.

              2. poor fool

                looks like even if trump loses just by a little, he was so unpopular that GA is a dead heat. couldnt even carry all his guaranteed wins

                sorry you backed a loser

                take the L bitch

                1. If only the GOP had the mail-in ballot scam, Trump would have won Commifornia by 1 mail-in vote.

        2. LOL, I didn’t even vote for the guy in both elections because I don’t vote. His primary value to me was how pissed off he got our national and cultural elites, and all the laughs he provided along the way.

          That you had to eat four years of that shit will sustain me for the next 40.

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  27. Meant to post it here. Sorry.
    I found this interesting. Seems Trump has some options.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIRlCOu4onI

    Pretty amazing how they refused Rep. observers into the counting rooms! Why are they doing this if it’s legit?

    I smell rats.

    Reply

    1. Rufus, the first sign of the fix being in was around 3-4 am EST, all the MSM reporting updates stopped.

      Trump way ahead and that momentum caused Hillary to concede in 2016. Lefties were never going to make that mistake again.

      Now AZ is the latest example where trump ballots are being held for counting last. Maybe hoping that Trump would concede. AZ ballots for Trump are suddenly boosting his numbers.

      Ga is evidently waiting for Friday when military absentee ballots are due.

      Trump winning GA, PA. NC, and AZ gives Trump the win.

      1. Yes I know they give him the win but can h half on to those first three? His lead is dwindling.

        1. And that’s what’s crazy. Friday is NOVEMBER 6. Why is this even allowed?

          1. Technically we have until December 10 or 14 for states to certify electors. Vote counts need to in by then.

            Democrats tried their tactic of Ballot dumps from Bluer areas to inflate wed and thursday tallies. They will have to add in the final Trump ballots sooner or later.

        2. Democrat counters are using ballot drops from known Democrat areas to give a false sense of Biden dominance in these states. Its probably why the stopped count updates nov 4 early. The media on election night was not giving Trump states like FL and TX until Biden had CA to give the appearance of Biden EC lead.

          As they are counting Maricopa county (went Trump in 2016) bidens “lead” is shrinking.

          NC rejected a bunch of democrat ballots for not having witness rule followed. Trump is in lead there.

          PA still has Trump in a lead.

          Ga still has Trump in the lead but might be waiting until Friday when Military absentee ballots are due and go heavy Republican.

  28. Democrats are just a front for the media empire, Reason ownership included.

    1. Heres the question…
      Are they employing the hegemony of THEIR media [because the media is subservient to them] to acquire the power …or…
      is the Media giving their power to the Dems because they own the dems as their political arm?
      And of course to finish…
      What difference at this point does it make? [props to hillary for immortalizing this]

      1. I thought it was the Dems that controlled the media, but after the last few months I think it’s the other way around. The media empire loves china and hates Trump.

        It’s not a coincidence that the biggest corporations did the best during lockdowns, and those lockdowns are driven by panic in the media – which is owned by the same people who run the corporations.

  29. Any chance Trump pulls a Nixon ’60 and decides to stop investigating possible election fraud in order to keep the country from pulling apart? Nixon was a pretty damn ambitious guy, yet gets little credit for taking one for the country.

    1. …how do you not realize the country has already been torn apart by the left?
      They will not stop, they will have to be stopped.
      Allowing blatant violations only invites more of it, which is why we find ourselves here.

      1. “They will not stop, they will have to be stopped.”

        better run for office and get some positive change going nardz

        sorry your cult leader *fat, unpopular* lost. Its hard when you back a loser

        sorry about that big fat L in the back of your throat

        1. Aww, look at the little mind keep trying

        2. This election is not even the point. Why is the left insisting on putting its political enemies on a “cancel” list? Why is it insisting on legalizing millions of new “citizens” in spite of the terrible economic and cultural policy of it?

    2. Nixon knew he’d be near first in line for the big chair, should the opportunity arise again. Trump will likely be in prison or dead in 12-18 months. Nixon was also much younger than Trump.

      Ultimately though, the country, and more importantly, the ideas and culture that make up this country, are far less unified and trusting now, than they were in 1960.

      It’s looking more and more like we’re going to have to have a fight to determine which culture gets to run things here. May as well have it now, than after 8 to 10 years of being weakened by proto-Soviet rule.

      1. it is unfortunate but i tend to agree

  30. https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1324567288545112069?s=19

    I’m retweeting this and genuinely asking for people to explain what it happening here if not a woman filling out ballots.

    This is not misinformation or conjecture. I’m asking a question and will gladly retweet an honest explanation.

    Maybe mainstream media could try the same.

  31. http://twitter.com/PhocaeanD/status/1324531466404044801?s=19

    Here is a list of 14+ thousand dead people who voted in Wayne County (Detroit): //t.co/qbdeHhcemU

    Here is the website where you can verify it: //t.co/9DhgllewyB

    #23 CLAUDIA,MILLER,1918,48234 (You have to guess-check the month of birth)

    Go try it out. //t.co/Yi0E7fGXFP

    1. They killed 14,000 people for voting? This is getting severe!

  32. If what all the reason commenters say about election fraud is true than it shouldn’t be hard to prove. If it’s as rampant as everyone says then Trump’s legal team should have no problem in the courts.

    It’s funny that it only happens in places where Trump is losing? Must be a coincidence

    1. The entire problem with the system is that there is no attempt at establishing the legitimacy of a ballot anywhere in the process. There is no evidence, nor any way of generating evidence.

      Imagine a hypothetical election where every single ballot was illegitimate. How would you prove it?

      1. If every ballot was Illegitimate than it’s not an election. The constitution leaves elections up to the states, so since almost everyone on here thinks the constitution is infallible I guess it must be working.

        Because it’s so rampant it can’t be proven is your argument? I must of imagined North Carolina’s 9th district in 2018.

        Where I live we’ve voted by mail for two decades. When you go to the DMV they ask you if you DON’T want to register to vote. One party wants to make it easier to vote while the other wants to make it hard.

        With all these specific incidents cons keep citing it should be impossible for the Dem controlled media to cover it up. Even if Trump is stupid his advisors and lawyers should have no trouble proving it in at least one GOP friendly state. We’re looking at one of the biggest scandals ever if the reason commenters are to be believed.

        1. I agree somewhat – we know that the dems would be saying the exact same shit if they were losing though. So it may also be the fact that we have been too polarized to trust voting results.

          1. When have Dems claimed voter or election fraud recently? In North Carolina’s 9th in 2018 they did and a special election was held because it actually happened. It was a Republican who cheated though.
            In 2016 I think Stein(not a Dem) asked for some recounts. That’s not claiming fraud.
            In 2004 a lot of people accused Ohio of election fraud, but It was a few media figures. Maybe a minor politician, but not Kerry.
            Trump complained about fraud in 2016 even though he won. Never could produce any evidence. He started claiming fraud before voting even began in this election.

            Sorry if I’m skeptical of him and his supporters claims. It doesn’t help that many of them are dumb as rocks.

            1. “”When have Dems claimed voter or election fraud recently?””

              Does Russian interference count?

        2. The Constitution leave elections up to state LEGISLATURES and Congress to figure out.

          Not Governors who authorize a mail-in ballot scam because of a virus less deadly than the Flu.

          1. Where is your cite for “less deadly than the flu?”

            I don’t know which states authorized mail in voting through their legislature or if the governor did an executive order or something. I know how my state works and many states already had measures for absentee ballots.

            If election and voter fraud is so rampant that a bunch of reason commenters can uncover it I’m sure the GOP’s legal team should at least be able to present the evidence to a court.

      2. Mr JD Aren’t some of the accusations along the lines of dead people or illegals voting? Or people voting multiple times? If that’s the case it shouldn’t be hard to prove? Mr X voted but Mr X isn’t a citizen. Mr. Y died? Mr. Z voted in county a, county b… Especially if it’s happening enough to affect the election then there should be plenty of evidence.

        1. Democrats are using every trick with mail-in ballots.

          Dead people
          People who moved away

          1. It shouldn’t be hard to prove then. Here’s John Taxpayer’s ballot, but John Taxpayer died earlier this year. Here’s Jane Smith’s ballot from County X, but she’s registered to vote in county Y and here’s her county Y ballot.

            We’re looking at one of the biggest scandals ever if Trump and y’all are right.

    2. “It’s funny that it only happens in places where Trump is losing? Must be a coincidence”

      …did you really say this?

      LOL

      1. Please explain why it’s funny Nardz?

        1. If trump says there was vote fraud and it’s true, then the reason why he lost is self-evident.

          1. Never before have election fraudsters never had to produce their own ballots.

            Some states sent out millions of mail-in ballots and fraudsters used them instead of the intended voter. All the fraudster had to do was fill in for Biden and it was more likely than ever to be counted.

            2020 General Election Early Vote Statistics

            1. Where I live they’ve been mailing ballots to every registered voter for every election for two decades. It’s been popular and turnout improved.

              If fraud is as rampant as you all say it is then there should be no problem proving it and the media will have to cover it.
              I’m sure you’ll be as right about this as you were about Trump winning in a landslide.

  33. The dems have already beclowned themselves with predicting a blue tsunami that did not happen. Now they hope to eke out the narrowest win possible to save face. Desperate times call for desparate measures

    1. There we’re a lot of Dems who were not sure how it would go. I can only speak for myself, but I was cautiously optimistic. There were plenty of reason commenters predicting a Trump landslide. At least the confident Dems can point to polls where the Trump landslide dopes were basing it on nothing. “But his rallies!” Even with no covid’s that’s an anecdotal fallacy.
      It’s just like when reason commenters constantly talk about Biden being old, unhealthy and full of gaffes. Many were making fun of Biden being unhealthy while Trump was in hospital with Covid. No one notices Trump’s gaffes because everything he says is stupid. If Obama or Biden lied 1/10 as often as Trump does the cons would be screaming for impeachment.
      In 10 to 15 years a lot of the clowns cheering Trump now will be saying they never supported him. Just like W Bush(to be fair Trump helped by hating Bush himself).

      1. I can’t believe people complain about politicians – of all people – lying. Whether Biden lies 1/10 of the time trump does in off-the-cuff small talk is irrelevant if his actions are ten times more in contravention to the campaign promises he made.

        Singling out a politician as a liar is intellectually dishonest.

        1. “Singling out a politician as a liar is intellectually dishonest.”
          Why? Because all politicians lie? Trump lies more than anyone. My point was if people are going to criticize Biden for being old Trump is only 3 years younger. He’s just as out of it as Biden. It really sucks the only feasible choices were old.

          Actions speak louder than words, but a president should be able to explain his decisions and policies. I get there are situations where it’s just not feasible to not distort the truth some. However Trump is constantly lying and his supporters believe him. Even when he contradicts himself they do some mental gymnastics to try and explain it away.

          1. your citations always fall off.

            1. What would I need a citation for in this post? That’s rich coming from Mr Trump is gonna win in a landslide.

              Didn’t you say Trump was gonna win Oregon at one point? I may be confusing you with someone else.

  34. http://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1324518752038236161?s=19

    Why is Twitter repeatedly censoring this video? Including when @tedcruz shared it? The video literally disappears from Cruz’s feed. (Video in follow up tweet.)

    This man speaking is a Democrat.

    1. His political party doesn’t matter. If it’s bullshit it’s bullshit. Social media companies are trying to not spread bogus news about the election.

      If even the sleuths on the Reason comment boards are finding election fraud so easily I’m sure Trump will have no problem proving it.

      1. Mormons are better than you

        1. I’m better than you because you support Mormons.

          1. You’re a shit stained trash fire sucking a donkey dick at a county fair. Live with it you faggot.

            1. At least I’m not a cousin fucker defending Mormons.

              Call me every name in the book. I’m not a far right loon defending Mormons. I’ve yet to have anyone try to defend their doctrine or beliefs? It’s because you all know it’s goddamn nonsense.

            2. Its funny I’m called a bigot for telling the truth about Mormons. They CHOOSE to be Mormon. No one is putting a gun to their head and saying believe this bullshit. I’m sure it’s hard to undo the brainwashing they endure growing up LDS(especially in Utah), but some manage to realize how goddamn stupid that religion is and leave. They do so knowing their family and friends may ostracize or disown them.
              Anyway I get called a bigot, but no one ever says anything about homophobic slurs.

              Shows what kind of goddamn scumbags most of you are. I’m doing the lord’s work if you shitbags don’t like me.(The Mormon god doesn’t exist)

              1. Mormons are better than you

                1. That’s all we have to do to put red rocks into a sjw frenzy huh?

                  Baiting others is one of the best methods to get a point across.

                2. Do I take the disproven ramblings of a perverted con artist as gospel? I don’t. Do I go door to door trying to get people to run their lives according to this disproven bullshit? I don’t. Do I distort, deceive, and lie about my history to try and make myself not look bad? I don’t. Did I ban blacks before 1978? I didn’t. Do I discrimate against non-mormons? I don’t.
                  I am better than Mormons and you because you defend Mormons.

                  Live and let live. The Mormons don’t believe that. They will keep popping out stupid Mormon babies until they outnumber everyone. They will ban alcohol and all non Christian or Jewish religions. They will justify it by saying something like “people will be a little mad now, but they’ll thank us eventually. After all those things are bad for you and you don’t need them.”

                  You are a piece of shit for defending Mormons.

                  1. what you are is boring. nothing on the internets is worse than boring.

                    1. Don’t care if far right loons call me boring or dumb or whatever. I take it as a compliment.

                    2. far right loons lol zzzzz

  35. http://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1324563472076648448?s=19

    Swing state voting irregularities:

    ☑️Biden outperforms Senators in swing states, underperforms in VA, NH, RI
    ☑️Biden underperforms Hillary/Obama in cities, except in MI, PA, GA, WI
    ☑️Biden mail-in dumps with 100% margins
    ☑️GOP lose ZERO House races

    Something is definitely off.

    1. Never in US history have fraudsters been given the gift of unclaimed official ballots they can grab and simply fill in Biden.

      Absentee ballots have a high return rate because voters have to fill out requests for the absentee ballot and then send it in. There is some desire to vote there.

      Mail-in ballots were sent to everyone on some magic Blue list. Millions never claimed by their intended recipients.

      It and the Kungflu hysteria are the greatest scam pulled in the 21st Century so far. Notice one could not happen without the other.

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  37. This is actually the most democratic election in history; Biden got the most popular votes ever, and Trump got more than Obama did. Biden’s popular vote lead is approaching 4 million. Even if as many as a few hundred thousand Republican ballots get lost or are thrown away, the outcome is clear, Trump has cured us of indifference to the political process. Trump can still win if he takes Nevada or Arizona.

    1. All the more reason to be sure “the most votes in history” aren’t so high due to vote fraud.

      It’s gonna be a long fuckin winter.

    2. Nearly all 4 million of those “lead” votes are explained by the difference in Commifornia.

      Millions MORE people voted than ever before but for Republicans AND Democrats. Mail-in ballots are the magic increases in cities that Democrats need to prevent trump from winning the EC.

      Less votes for LP than in 2016.

  38. trumph need to lose in order to make the USA grow again.thumbs up if you are with Biden.

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  39. Boehm is having trouble keeping up. The issue is not “counting the votes late.” It’s that the Democrats are forging piles of votes as we speak.

    1. Millions of mail-in ballots were never claimed by their recipients.

      Fraudsters just needed to collect those, mark Biden, and send them in. There is almost no way to know if the intended recipient filled the ballot out or a fraudster.

      202 early vote stats

      The mail-in ballot scam should very easy for the SCOTUS to throw out millions of mail-in ballots around the USA.

  40. Yet another excellent opinion piece followed by the usual idiotic comments. Is there some sort of disconnect between Reason and their readers?

    1. unreason hacks write garbage.

      We point out how in the comments.

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  43. Reason is full of stone cold liars, plain and simple.

    Democrats have been stealing elections with their bullshit for decades, and it’s way time that the Supreme Court put a stop to it.

    And if they can’t then it’s time for the republicans to get some fucking brains and refuse the release the final vote totals in their districts until the dems release theirs.

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  44. Did anyone else notice the magical switch that got flipped in some people’s brains the second that is began to look like Trump would actually be leaving office?

    The 5th column podcast suddenly sounded closer to normal. Even Matt “irrational hatred” Welch was suddenly able to see the horrendous propaganda being peddled as news.

    Oddly, the consensus was that this was their first time seeing cable news in years, and they were surprised to find that fox news coverage was reasonably good and cnn and NBC/MSNBC was embarrassing.

    Well, except for a couple of writers here.

    They apparently still have scales on their eyes.

    As to why Trump is claiming election fraud?

    Well, it is akin to the Jeffrey Epstein case. As soon as he was arrested, everyone who pays attention to politics was joking that Epstein would be dead before he could testify. That’s why people were suspicious of his subsequent suicide.

    In this case, Democrats have been doing things that telegraph an intent to get up to election shenanigans all year. Democrat lead states all started issuing edicts that every voter should be sent a mail in ballot with no controls…. Outside of the normal legislative process. Normally, we don’t change the rules of an election by executive order during the campaign. And many of the rules were very sketchy. California wanted to mail ballots to all residents. Arizona sent out color coded ballots to all registered voters…coded by party. Why? Putting “this is a Democrat ballot” on the outside of the envelope serves what purpose? Pennsylvania courts ordered that ballots without signatures or postmarks that came in days late could not be rejected, directly in opposition to state law. Why? How exactly does removing the only remaining check on the validity of a mail in ballot serve to ensure a free and fair election?

    When these sorts of actions were happening across the country, people started making Epstein-like predictions. Asking Trump “will you leave office when you lose” didn’t spring to some gutsy reporter’s mind out of the blue. There was a predicate, and it was not coming from Trump’s words or actions.

    Trump was not leading the people to mistrust the mail in ballot. He was following.

    Then when people start seeing the things that they were joking about or predicting come to fruition, just like the first suicide attempt by Epstein, they started raising objections.

    Before the election, people who follow such things said the way you steal an election is you hold back your vote counting until the other side has their numbers in. On election night we had two swing states that were predicted to go to Biden and who had traditionally had delays in counting – Ohio and Florida – come in on time with their count. And both went for Trump more strongly than before.

    Florida made it really clear. Palm beach county and Broward county had been notorious for tabulation delays, often coming in many days after the rest of the state was finished. This, despite the move to electronic tabulation at the time a vote is cast, which should have made the counting all but instantaneous.

    But not this year. This year they were in on time, just like the rest of the state. Why? Well, the governor removed the election supervisors of both counties. In Broward the same person from 2000 was still in charge, despite a long perception of incompetent (or worse). As soon as she was removed, the problems were eliminated.

    And without those problems, the vote was in on time with no late batches of votes that swing hard in one direction.

    If you don’t understand why people roll their eyes at the “suicide” of Epsteing “without evidence”, well, I can’t help you then. People are rolling their eyes at the late breaking vote for the same reason. There are similar indications.

    Trump gains among minority voters…. Except in 5 specific cities. Turnout is much higher in these specific cities than in comparable cities like Cleveland, Trenton, Ft Lauderdale, Jacksonville…

    There are a lot of things that just look odd.

    The actual vote might be explainable by aggressive and we’ll run vote harvesting campaigns in these cities. But it still looks suspicious. Just as Epstein may have committed suicide after having claimed to have been assaulted in another supposed suicide attempt, and being placed in a cell with a broken camera system outside. But it still looks suspicious.

    1. Every national election, Philadelphia looks shady as hell. This year my state of Pennsylvania has outdone itself.

      Journalists and pundits are either so desperate to see Trump gone or so desperate not to delegitimize this election that the more-obvious-than-usual sketchy behavior is going to go determinedly unexamined, and those asking questions are going to be officially ostracized. Which, ironically enough, is the exact opposite reaction from the attempts to call the previous presidential election into question via supposed Russian meddling.

      1. Oh just stop. What looks shady about it? That trump is losing because legal, legitimate mail in votes were counted after in person votes?

        1. Did you not read Cyto’s long, well reasoned post?

          There will never be evidence of anything if you fight every single attempt to uncover evidence.

          1. It’s time once again to trust the machinations of the partisan hacks who run our cherished institutions.

      2. The courts just need to toss out all ballots from these corrupt counties.

        Democrats would stop this election fraud in a sec if they KNEW they would lose every national election from having corrupt cities counts not counted toward total for state.

        1. That is not a legitimate recourse.

          The only legitimate recourse, should there be enough evidence of fraud, would be to have a revote for the entire state. This is what they did in North Carolina when there was a tiny amount of fraud uncovered in the last election. They held a special election to revote that race.

          The problem is, is anyone going to walk down that road?

          Also, it is probably too late to prove anything. You can use statistical analysis, voting patterns and comparable areas, and other indicators to raise red flags, but nobody is about to overturn a federal election based on that kind of subjective evidence.

          And the deed is done. If in fact there was a bunch of illegitimate ballots shoved into the process. The only way that I can think of to detect it would be to go around to every voter in the district and ask them if they voted. The voting role is public, so you can actually do that. But are you really going to be able to go up to 500,000 people, verify their identity, and get them to swear that they did not vote?

          And even if you did, how many would it take? That’s a pretty subjective number. I am fairly certain that if Biden wins Pennsylvania by 12,000 votes and they are able to identify 300 people who did not vote but who had ballots cast, everyone is going to dismiss it and say that 300 votes would not change the results.

          This is why John Roberts should be taken out and strung up. Metaphorically, of course. By punting on all of the key election questions that were raised by the late changes that happened across the country under the ostensible excuse of covid, he made sure that nobody could accept the results of any court decisions taken after the fact.

          Those of you who are saying that Trump claiming that he had won and the election was being stolen threatens faith in the election and undermines democracy have your head in the sand. Nobody has their faith undermined by the guy who loses complaining. That’s stupid.

          But what does undermine confidence is when the courts allow or even create arbitrary changes that are perceived to benefit one party or the other.

          And what Roberts did by failing to weigh in on election decisions, particularly the Pennsylvania changes which seem incredibly unjustifiable, is to guarantee that no decision the court can make on that will be accepted. Because any decision they make will be made in an environment where they know the outcome of the election based on their decision. They will not be deciding a technical legal matter. They will be deciding who gets to be the president.

          That certainly will undermine faith in the court and faith in the election system.

          So there is no way they are going to overturn the election results. It just ain’t happening.

          1. And what Roberts did by failing to weigh in on election decisions…is to guarantee that no decision the court can make on that will be accepted. Because any decision they make will be made in an environment where they know the outcome of the election based on their decision. They will not be deciding a technical legal matter. They will be deciding who gets to be the president.

            That certainly will undermine faith in the court and faith in the election system.”

            So there is no way they are going to overturn the election results. It just ain’t happening”

            I share your pessimism. The courts are going to kick it back to the States to certify their own ballot returns. If those state institutions are corrupt, the Supreme Court isn’t going to save you.

            I would like to see a 1-day revote, for at least President and Congressional races. Everywhere. In person, proof of citizenship and residency, dip a body part in ink, and ironclad chain of custody.

            The problem we have though is that our institutions are rotting away, as our culture rots away, and measures like the above are the equivalent of thinking a fresh coat of paint will keep the load-bearing walls from collapsing.

          2. Fine then. WI, MI, PA, GA, AZ and NV cannot be certified for electors.

            Neither Trump nor Biden can reach 270 EC.

            The House votes for President and VP with 1 vote per state as per the 12th Amendment.

            Trump and Pence win…again.

            Mail-in ballots were the scam and this could only happen under Democrat created hysteria with Kungflu. Toss those ballots. All of them Democrat AND Republican.

    2. And THIS is how you REASON.

    3. “Arizona sent out color coded ballots to all registered voters…coded by party. Why? Putting “this is a Democrat ballot” on the outside of the envelope serves what purpose? ”

      Holy crap, I didn’t know this. Did they do that in any other states?

      1. I think so. I know one person detailed her mail in voting experience, described a color coded ballot, and she is not a resident of AZ.

        Before election day, there was all this data about so many R ballots vs D ballots being returned and it wasn’t as much in D favor as was anticipated. I figured the coded ballots were everywhere.

    4. Great post, btw

      “There are a lot of things that just look odd.”

      Yes, and you didn’t even mention
      the contributions from certain websites. Not just the censorship of comments about shady activity but I remember watching election updates on YouTube when Trump was still ahead in key states and a warning from Google appeared, basically stating not to believe the current vote totals…that they would change. I think a similar warning was posted on Twitter. It went away after the vote dump several hours later. Even though the election still wasn’t over.

      Like you said, odd.

    5. “Democrats stuff ballots” is going to be the new “Epstein didn’t kill himself.”

  45. Absentee ballots (and early voting) are not the same thing as vote by mail. The former is (are) done in a controlled setting, with town clerk or equivalent overseeing what is going on. Vote by mail is a free-for-all and leaves the door wide open to fraud.

    1. This has been explained ad nauseam to Reason.

      The writers here are mendacious, manipulative liars.

      1. Quite right….. I’m puking now as I point it out once more time…. gotta run, my bucket is full.

    2. I was mailed a ballot because my state mailed them to everyone. I voted in person. They checked my name, checked that my mail-in ballot was not used, and then put my name in a “completed votes” box. But keep flailing.

  46. Anyone notice that the people who are claiming “no evidence” are the same people who think that there is no harm in Twitter censorship?

    It’s like CNN complaining none of their viewers know what Trump was talking about in the debate. It’s like they deliberately keep their viewers uninformed and misinformed.

    If you live in water, how do you know you are wet?

    1. The people claiming no evidence also bought into the whole Russia conspiracy last time around.

      And are also the same people who found Blasey-Ford ‘credible.’

      1. Funny how politics causes blindness,

        1. that didn’t come out quite right…. hmmmm, need to think about rephrasing it.

  47. The point is that mail-in ballots should not be counted if they are received after election day.

    I hope you Libertarians are proud of yourselves for handing the election to Joe Biden. If Libertarians in GA and WI had voted for Trump, he would have won those states and would be in a commanding position to win the election.

      1. You haven’t seen mad yet.

        1. Haaaaaahahahahaha

        2. When do I get to see it?

  48. > Trump Says Mail-in Votes Are Suspicious Because They Overwhelmingly Favor Joe Biden.

    How much of a narcissist does one have to be to believe that? “Gosh,the only reason people don’t vote for me is because it’s a conspiracy.”

    The problem here is that Trump and his supporters are desperately grasping at straws. Like taking a media site’s misreporting as evidence of conspiracy. They got the count wrong, they were NOT the ones counting!

    I don’t mind the lawsuits. Gore did it first. For very close races with new and funky (yet legal) rules in place, it’s something Hillary would have done. But my Facebook feed was full of nothing but conspiracy mongering yesterday. How everyone except Putin literally stole the election. How much of it does Trump actually believe? Or is he just riling up his base?

    Even here is Deep Blue California, people are acting like Trump would have swept the state if not for all those fake ballot boxes that the counties set up and secured with bolts and with multiple pickups per day. Can’t trust them, a democrat plot to make California go Blue. It’s stupid.

    It’s still too close to call, but if Trump loses then he lost fairly. If Biden loses then he lost fairly.

    1. HAHA. The media were unwilling participants…. HAHA

      The MSM refused to call Georgia for Trump even when at 86% Trump was hundred of thousands of votes ahead.

      Biden gets 1,000 vote lead and Georgia is Blue now.

      If Republicans had used a mail-in ballot scam, California would be Red.

  49. >>This isn’t fraud. This isn’t a scheme to steal the election.

    ya dude right in front of you. you’re complicit and it’s pretty fucked up.

  50. “We have no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing, but the seriousness of the allegations, and the weight of circumstantial information, compel an effort to establish the facts.”

  51. I only read the headline. But the only problem I see with this is here:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/yinonw/status/1324563985606258688

  52. Didn’t we always know that in the several battleground states that the voting would continue until they had amassed enough votes for Biden? “Oh look, here’s *another* box of votes we overlooked, we’ve got no idea where they came from, where they were all this time, who had custody of them…but let’s count them anyway! Hey look! Biden won 87% of them!”

  53. “and stresses that political parties should feel an obligation to support policies that make it easier for Americans to participate in the electoral process, regardless of whether there is a pandemic.”

    Um…no? We should support policies that DONT make it easier to commit fraud.

  54. I don’t know if there is any cheating or not.
    Would the party of get Trump out by any means use cheating as a means? If it becomes the only way they can get Trump out they will use it. So dems cheating to remove Trump is within the realm of possibility.

    They have motive and they may have opportunity. Claims should be investigated.

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  57. Why yes, a statistical anomaly IS suspicious.

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