County Wants Answers From Treasurer Who Seized Man's Home Over $8 Tax Bill
Officials in Oakland County, Michigan, are worried they could be on the hook for more than $30 million in payments to former homeowners victimized by an aggressive forfeiture scheme.

The Michigan Supreme Court issued a sweeping rebuke last week to Oakland County's decision to seize a retiree's home over $8.41 in unpaid taxes. Now county officials are worried they could be on the hook for more than $30 million in payments to former homeowners victimized by the same aggressive forfeiture scheme.
In a letter sent this week to Oakland County Treasurer Andrew Meisner, county commissioners demanded answers. "It appears your actions as Treasurer to foreclose on an Oakland County retiree's property for $8.41 has exposed the county to serious risk," it says. The letter informs Meisner that the county plans to form a special committee to investigate officials' use of tax asset forfeiture and to "make recommendations to protect the Oakland County taxpayers."
As Reason reported last year, Michigan state law empowers county treasurers to take aggressive actions to quickly foreclosure and auction properties with unpaid taxes. The law allows counties to keep the excess proceeds from those auctions, a provision that has created a perverse incentive for counties to seize homes, sell them, and keep the profits.
Uri Rafaeli, the plaintiff in the case that was before the state Supreme Court, lost his Southfield home in 2014 because he'd accidentally underpaid his taxes by $8.41. The county pocketed nearly $24,500 from the sale of his property. In another Michigan case that's gained some media attention, Gratiot County seized 35 acres of land from Donald Freed over a $750 tax debt. The property was auctioned for more than $100,000—and, of course, the county kept the change.
In the Rafaeli case, Oakland County was "required to return the surplus proceeds to plaintiffs, and defendants' failure to do so constituted a government taking under the Michigan Constitution entitling plaintiffs to just compensation," Justice Brian Zahra wrote in the state Supreme Court's ruling last week. The high court sent the case back down to a lower court to decide how Rafaeli should be compensated.
While county officials are quick to point the finger at Meisner, the real culprit here is the 1999 state law that created this mess in the first place. In a statement after last week's state Supreme Court ruling, Meisner said he was merely following the law when he authorized the seizure of Rafaeli's home. Now that the state's highest court has found constitutional issues with how counties do that, Meisner added, he was looking "forward to working with the Legislature to change this state law in a way that works well for property owners and our local communities, while being fair to the majority of property owners who pay their property taxes on time."
In the meantime, Meisner's office seems likely to face additional scrutiny. The Detroit News reports that the Oakland County board of commissioners is seeking information about how many properties have been foreclosed, what profits the county kept, and how those funds were spent.
Some of that information has been available for county commissioners to review for years, if only they'd cared to look. Like many other counties in Michigan, Oakland County maintains a "delinquent tax revolving fund" (DTRF) where the proceeds from tax asset forfeitures are deposited. If the county has a positive balance in its DTRF at the end of a fiscal year, the excess funds can be channeled into the county budget.
As Reason reported last year:
That's how Wayne County has funneled more than $382 million in delinquent tax surpluses into its general fund budget since 2012, according to an analysis by Bridge magazine, a Michigan-based nonprofit publication.
In Oakland County, where Rafaeli's Southfield property was seized and sold in 2014, the process has been lucrative too. According to the county's most recent comprehensive annual financial report, its DTRF had $196.8 million in net assets.
The same document details plans to use the DTRF for a number of pet projects, including the construction of a new animal shelter and adoption center. The county also "anticipates the continuation of annual transfers from the DTRF to support General Fund/General Purpose operations in the amount of $3.0 million annually for FY 2019 through FY 2023"—totals that are in line with historical norms, according to the annual report.
The most important thing for state and county officials to do now is to ensure they update their policies and practices to reflect last week's Supreme Court ruling, thus protecting homeowners from facing a similar fate. But scrutiny of past forfeitures is certainly warranted—and homeowners like Rafaeli deserve major refunds.
Indeed, county attorneys always knew they could end up on the hook for huge payments to compensate homeowners who had their equity stolen for unpaid tax bills. During oral arguments before the state Supreme Court, attorneys for Oakland County argued that it was impossible for local governments to compensate all homeowners who had been caught in similar circumstances. The price tag, they estimated, would be more than $2 billion statewide.
The state Supreme Court literally laughed off the idea that property owners shouldn't be fairly compensated because that would create a fiscal burden for the counties that ripped them off. After years of stealing excess value from homeowners to pad their own budgets, Michigan counties appear headed for a reckoning with their unconstitutional behavior.
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Part of me actually feels sympathy for the country treasurer. If he hadn't followed the greedy law, they'd have held him responsible for not collecting everything he was authorized to collect, possibly personally putting him on the hook.
This is partly on the county commissioners for looking the other way as long as they could, partly on the state for such a stupid greedy law, and partly on a judicial system which takes so long to correct such obvious illegality. This had been going on for 20 years; what was the treasurer supposed to do?
Sorry, as an adult, an individual has the right to say "no!" to unlawful or bad laws. Had he done the right thing years ago, the county would not be in this predicament. And yes, I have said no to a Supervisor, and it was uncomfortable for a while, but policy changed, and Supervisor was let go. Saying no works.
Wait, I may be thinking of a different corrupt county in Michigan, but isn't this the place where the Treasurer's family/friends were buying the stolen houses from the county for a song, then flipping them for a huge profit?
That was Detroit proper. A small cabal of officials was getting old people with no families declared incompetent, having themselves declared guardians ('cause, you know, someone has to!), shoving them into a nursing home and selling the home to help pay. They tipped off their friends to the auctions, which went for outrageously low bids, $5000, $800 in one case IIRC, and they then flipped the house for tens of thousands.
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That's crazy! it would definitely cost more in labor to do this foreclosure than to collect $8...imagine how much paperwork and clerical hours was needed...how many people were involved? ...i bet at least 50 hours for something like this and lets say average $20 hour salary, that is over $1000
I do not feel any sympathy for someone who is put in a position where saying 'no' to unethical behavior would find them facing pressure from their colleagues.
It is hard to do - but do the hard right, not the easy wrong. Its not like this guy was facing starvation should he have not played ball.
It's good to hear from the Andy Meisner for County Executive campaign staff, thanks for dropping in.
Serves the county right, they should have been keeping a closer eye on that office for a long time. It was clear to anyone with any concept of fairness that the law was abusive and it would come back and bite you. If the county did not act before it is because they supported it.
People like that don't 'keep an eye' on these things because they're complicit. Plausible deniability is the word of the day. They know, but they don't know, you see?
Hence the letter by the county board - its all theater. They knew what was happening. The letter is their 'I'm shocked, shocked, to find that gambling is going on in here.' moment.
This. The county commissioners need to be tarred & feathered, not the treasurer.
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Having dealt with similar organizations, I’m confident that the board had no clue this was going on. They usually have no clue about, and no desire to learn about, anything that isn’t in their wheelhouse or personal objectives.
"I’m confident that the board had no clue this was going on."
Pathetically and dangerously naive at best. Yeah, because the county had no knowledge of the lawsuit brought in 2014 and no wronged taxpayer ever complained to one of them about it. In addition, per the state law, the county determined it would handle foreclosures instead of letting the state do it. Does the state keep the excess like the county did? Ignorance, as a defense, would be laughable were it not dealing with the rape of taxpayers.
Go look at Wayne County's official budget page where it talks about DTRP revenue.
https://www.waynecounty.com/departments/mb/reports/budget.aspx
"It appears your actions as Treasurer to foreclose on an Oakland County retiree's property for $8.41 has exposed the county to serious risk,"
Good for the county.
Of course, the taxpayers will end up footing the bill. Too bad the responsible officials can’t be punished.
Yeah, right.
I can just see the SWAT teams storming the homes of every legislator who voted for the bill. In broad daylight with massive media coverage ala Stone.
Wait, what? Democrats? Never mind.
The bill that became this law was brought forth by a Republican. Both chambers of the Michigan Legislature were controlled by Republicans, and the bill was signed into law by the Republican governor. But they don't have to worry about SWAT either.
The difference between Stone and the Democrats/Republicans? Stone isn't a politician. (And I mean c'mon, prosecutors are just chompin at the bit to indict every ham sandwich citizen out there and this guy calls himself a dirty trickster, a mendacious windbag, and throws the Nixon V's up every chance he gets. I wonder how much erotica all the DA's and AG's penned in frustration of not being the one to convene the grand jury.)
Also, the author of the bill is deceased. Which is usually, but not always, a good way to prevent cops from kicking down your door.
Andy Meisner, the County Treasurer who chose to apply the law in this way, is a Democrat.
Agreed! I'd also be somewhat tempted to agree that the guilty officials would most properly be carved up for organ donations, to raise reparations, as opposed to punishing the taxpayers, for the sins of these greedy officials!
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While he is mentally ill, indisputably, that's not what he's doing.
He's embarrassed because he said he eats shit, so he floods the thread with shitposts and obsessive nonsense.
Cathy is correct. SQRLSY shitposts out of pure embarrassment, every time hecposts you can see he is trying to overflow the thread with spam so no one mocks him for the shit he eats.
He's ill, but not crazy.
Mis-placed comment repeated in a better location here...
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Tulpa is engaging in ID theft again! Evil is as evil does!
Tulpa, get yourself an exorcism! It is the ONLY viable option left open to you, ye suffering SLAVE to the Evil One, ye! Self-chosen suffering? Yes! Still, it is PITIFUL suffering! Therefor, to be pitied! Here, pitiful one…
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He might be, but I'm surprisingly OK with his plan here anyway.
Elected leaders pretend they were innocent bystanders when this was going on. Are you fooled?
Seems like a whole bunch of people here are.
"The Detroit News reports that the Oakland County board of commissioners is seeking information about how many properties have been foreclosed, what profits the county kept, and how those funds were spent."
Meaning did he skim any money for his own department before delivering them their cut.
I think its more 'we've got to protect our phoney-balogney jobs gentlemen!'
"As Reason reported last year, Michigan state law empowers county treasurers to take aggressive actions to quickly foreclosure and auction properties with unpaid taxes."
The bold word above sounds wrong in this sentence, and should probably be changed to 'foreclose on' or 'foreclose upon'.
More on-topic: Glad that they are looking into this, but I notice that they are doing it for the wrong reason.
Not, "Oh, this was wrong because stealing from our citizens is bad."
But, "This was wrong because we may have to pay it all back. We should find a convenient scapegoat so that we don't share any of the blame ourselves."
I think just 'foreclose' - '. . . quickly foreclose and auction properties'.
In a letter sent this week to Oakland County Treasurer Andrew Meisner, county commissioners demanded answers and expressed their shock - shock! - to find there had been such shenanigans going on.
If the treasurer was smart, he kept copies of e-mails and recorded messages that implicated the county commissioners. You're not telling me that everybody involved in asset forfeiture doesn't know full well what's going on.
Oh, he did - in his inbox, where he keeps all his important documents!
So the county IT, 'following procedures', now deletes any emails over 30 days old 'to clear up storage space'.
...the county plans to form a special committee to investigate officials' use of tax asset forfeiture and to "make recommendations to protect the Oakland County taxpayers."
The special in special committee probably means don't look too closely into how happy the board of commissioners was to benefit from the serial theft of their constituents . Of course, county treasurer, like commissioner, is an elected office so the taxpayers (collectively) who failed to vote them out are ultimately on the hook for all of this.
County Wants Answers From Treasurer Who Seized Man's Home Over $8 Tax Bill
Number 1 question, How did you get caught?
Number 2 question, How do we continue to do this without being caught?
unfortunately, the county officials will never be on the hook -- the county's taxpayers will be.
bankrupt them asap. it's the only way to be sure
From orbit.
Yes that was the joke.
Well actually you are but I was trying to be civil.
No, the real culprits are the people who created and voted into place that 1999 law, the real culprit is the person who, once granted this power, grossly abused their power.
To say the *law* is 'the real culprit' is the same as saying the real culprit of gun violence is the ability of people to own firearms. After all, if people didn't have guns, guns wouldn't kill people, amirite?
Won’t matter they will try to relitigate this or force taxpayers to cough it up. That is what democrats do.
What's missing in this story? Homeowner underpaid. Was he notified or not? If so,why didn't he then pay the differrnce and forgot all the foreclosure bull? If he wasn't notified by certified rrq mail, then the officials most certainly violated the law and should be criminally and civily charged.
that's what I've been wondering, this guy lost his house for a simple slip up? and for an amount that the average household change jar would probably cover
He underpaid, and apparently was notified, to the wrong address, for several years. The details of the story are out there, even on Reason.
Well, shit. Did they even foreclose the right place, then? I mean, if they were sending the notices to the wrong address...
Wait, I may be thinking of a different corrupt county in Michigan, but isn’t this the place where the Treasurer’s family/friends were buying the stolen houses from the county for a song, then flipping them for a huge profit?
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Tulpa is engaging in ID theft again! Evil is as evil does!
Tulpa, get yourself an exorcism! It is the ONLY viable option left open to you, ye suffering SLAVE to the Evil One, ye! Self-chosen suffering? Yes! Still, it is PITIFUL suffering! Therefor, to be pitied! Here, pitiful one...
See M. Scott Peck, Glimpses of the Devil, https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1439167265/reasonmagazinea-20/ , Glimpses of the Devil: A Psychiatrist's Personal Accounts of Possession, Paperback – March 25, 2009
by M. Scott Peck (Author)
Read and heed! Pitiful excuse for a human being!
No, YOU are evil. We just want you gone.
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It's not that the Elect Officials think that the Treasurer was WRONG, they were more than happy to spend the money.
The problem is that they didn't get away with the scheme.
"The law allows counties to keep the excess proceeds from those auctions, a provision that has created a perverse incentive for counties to seize homes, sell them, and keep the profits"
"Counties" don't do anything. People do.
If I did business in the same manner as government actors do, and forced strangers to give me money, would you consider me a criminal?
""It appears your actions as Treasurer to foreclose on an Oakland County retiree's property for $8.41 has exposed the county to serious risk," it says."
Oh, like they were unaware of this source of hundreds of million dollars for their budgets. If you read this carefully you can see they're really complaining that the treasurer was *so* greedy that he killed the golden goose.
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Seems to me that both the county and the state should be required to provide answers, in plain English that is, explaining how this racket was allowed to carry on.
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It's the same lesson over and over and over. Government officials who assess fines and forfeitures should NEVER directly benefit from them. At least when it funnels through the legislature there's some accountability and separation of interest.
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One wonders as to who set up this forfeiture scheme or is scam a better term?
Legistlatures pass obviously corrupt laws for sinister purposes all the time. That's why there should be a judicial ruling on every law that's passed before it can take effect, because the overwhelming majority of the citizens aren't in a position to fight a bad law all the way through the courts. If legislators knew their bs laws would be shot down quickly after passage, they likely wouldn't try to sneak them through.
I don't know if Michigan has an asset forfeiture law for cash, but states such as Nevada have them and it allows police to seize large amounts of cash on the assumption that the cash was generated by illegal activity. Assuming the officer who seizes it even reports same or just pockets it, it's then on the victim of the seizure to prove the cash wasn't generated by illegal activity. It's such a hassle that the police end up keeping the money and use it to buy armored personnel carriers and other ridiculously inappropriate toys that shouldn't even be legal for civilian policing. The country can't survive such obvious corruption in government and I suspect more than a few of the victims of these criminal government idiots didn't survive their assault. People need to go to jail but the police don't arrest their friends on the force or in the legislature.
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