Cancel Culture Is Out of Control
The online mob is running amok.

The online mob came for Harald Uhlig.
What terrible thing had he done? As I show in my new video, he tweeted that Black Lives Matter "torpedoed itself, with its full-fledged support of #defundthepolice." Instead of defunding, Uhlig suggested, "train them better."
Hundreds of people then signed a petition to demand that Uhlig, a University of Chicago professor and head of the Journal of Political Economy, resign. Even prominent economists like Janet Yellen and Paul Krugman joined the mob. Krugman called Uhlig "another privileged white man who evidently cannot control his urge to belittle the concerns of those less fortunate."
But that's just a lie. Uhlig wasn't belittling concerns of anyone less fortunate.
"There was nothing racist or discriminatory in how he said it," says Reason magazine senior editor Robby Soave, who covers the new "woke" protests. "But because he has some different views from the protesters, he must be a racist."
Uhlig was placed on leave by the journal he ran.
The new totalitarians demand that no one criticize their view of the world.
The online mob even attacks its fellow Democrats.
David Shor, an analyst at Democratic polling firm Civis Analytics, tweeted a study that concluded, "race riots reduced Democratic vote share."
That study was probably accurate. Obviously, rioting alienates voters.
But the mob attacked Shor. "Come get your boy," one tweeted.
His bosses did. Even though Shor issued a groveling apology, he was fired.
Soave points out, "There's a cruel streak in activism that says, 'If you disagree with me…you have no right to speak.'"
"Why are they winning?" I ask. "Their argument is ridiculous."
"People are afraid to challenge them," explains Soave. "It just takes one employee at one company, to say, 'Here's the law that protects my rights to feel safe and comfortable in this workplace. If you're not making me feel safe and comfortable, I'm going to get you in trouble.'"
So cowardly corporations cave.
A Boeing executive was even forced out for opposing women's service in the military—30 years ago.
A Los Angeles soccer team fired a player because his wife posted racist comments.
Michigan State pushed out a physicist when a twitter mob from its "Graduate Employees Union" labeled him a "scientific racist." What racist thing had the physicist done? He "rejects the idea that scientists should categorically exclude the possibility of average genetic differences among groups," is how a Wall Street Journal column explained it.
Now "cancel culture" has moved abroad.
Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling is being smeared as "transphobic." When a tax researcher was fired for saying, "Identifying as a woman does not make a person a woman," Rowling tweeted, incredulously, "Force women out of their jobs for stating that sex is real?"
She said she has nothing against trans people, but she's "concerned about the huge explosion in young women wishing to transition."
The Twitter mob claimed her "hate" was "killing trans people."
Some staff at Hachette, her publisher, refused to work on her next book. Actors in her Harry Potter movies spoke out against her.
But Rowling didn't back down. "It isn't hate to speak the truth," she tweeted.
She also mocked a charity that used the phrase "people who menstruate" instead of women, tweeting: "There used to be a word for those people. Someone help me out. Wumben? Wimpund? Woomud?"
That further incensed the mob. It claimed her "hate…leads to trans women, especially teens and black trans women, becoming victims of sexual assault."
But Rowling is the rare person popular enough to be able to resist the mob. Her publisher spoke up for her, saying, "Freedom of speech is the cornerstone of publishing."
And the University of Chicago stood up to the mob, too. The school, after a 10-day investigation, announced there was "no basis" for taking away Harold Uhlig's job. He's been reinstated.
That's how these cases should be handled.
"The solution is to challenge these people," says Soave. "We just have to speak up."
Those of us who can, must.
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I can speak up, because they can't get me fired- I'm nobody, and can make a living regardless. So, they can kiss my ass: BLM is a Marxist organization, Antifa is, in fact, fascist, and men can never become women.
Hey now, you arent allowed to use the fact that BLMs leaders self declared themselves marxists according to some of the useful idiots here.
Point out that modern race theory is nothing more than a racially branded conflict theory if Marx and you'll be called a racist as well.
JesseSPAZ is lying again... No surprises there! Fish swim, and Jesse lies!
Here is JesseSPAZ non-logic at work:
Why don’t you just be HONEST and admit that you hate BLM, and stop the stupid smokescreen!
ALL of the “founding fathers” of the USA, and ALL of it’s founding CITIZENS, for that matter, are DEAD! By your logic, all USA-Americans are DEAD, then!
Pythagoras, the inventor/discoverer of the Pythagorean Theorem, was a cult leader. https://listverse.com/2017/04/26/10-strange-facts-about-pythagoras-mathematician-and-cult-leader/#:~:text=10%20Pythagoras%20Led%20A%20Cult%20That%20Worshiped%20Numbers&text=Numbers%2C%20Pythagoras%20believed%2C%20were%20the,were%20sacred%E2%80%94almost%20like%20gods.
Then those of us who believe the Pythagorean Theorem must all be cultists! By YOUR flavor of stupid!
Are you entirely TOO STUPID to realize that one or two class-members of a class, does NOT define the class? My dog had an accident and has only 3 legs... By JesseSPAZ-stupid logic, dogs as a class, then, are all 3-legged!
Why don’t you just admit that you hate BLM, and leave it at that? Or tell us your REAL reasons why you hate BLM?
And if BLM leader(s) is/are Marxist, does that then prove that Black Lives do NOT matter? And that Der TrumpfenFuhrer should gas them all? WHERE does JesseSPAZ non-logic lead to, in the Final Solution?
makes ya wonder though. Some of these asshats are trying to get the works of Rowling and Orson Scott Card thrown out due to the beliefs of the authors... when will they do the same with Marxism and socialism? Cause the way I remember it, Marx was pretty clear on where he stood on race.
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For a fantasy writer, Rowling is doing a red-hot job at reality on this one.
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I don't really like Rowling (she's inconsistent and pandering in her own way) but I respect her for refusing to apologize. The apologies are just an admission of guilt, and it continues to fan the flames.
Vox Day is a scumbag, but he's right about this, from Rule #3 of his SJW Attack Survival Guide, "Do Not Apologize" :
"Be aware that once they have launched an attack on you, they will press you hard for an apology and repeatedly imply that if you will just apologize, all will be forgiven. Do not be fooled! I have seen people fall for it time and time again, and the result is always the same. The SJWs are simply looking for a public confession that will confirm their accusations, give them PR cover, and provide them with the ammunition required to discredit and disemploy you. Apologizing will accomplish nothing more than hand them the very weapons they require to destroy you."
It always shocks me that people don't know this just inherently.
I used to have a friend. She had this pattern with people where at some point in a relationship she would get pissed at someone rightly or wrongly and then go full unjustifiable bitch mode. I mean whole nine yards of petty bullshit trying to tear someone down to the point where even if her original reasons for being pissed was reasonable her reaction was not. Anyways, the way she always justified it to herself and others was that every person she pulled this number on would eventually come crawling back to apologize to her, thus proving to her that she had been in the right all along on both the original slight and her later actions. Of course, she never actually forgave them and felt fully justified in continuing to treat them like trash. They had admitted she was right to do so after all with their apology.
Obviously, yes she eventually came for me, and having seen this number go down about three times before, I just refused to give her a bloody inch. No apology, wouldn't even acknowledge her behavior bothered me. She ended up driving herself out of our mutual friend circles, because she kept escalating her behavior in a desperate attempt to force me into giving her what she wanted.
Seems the same reaction is the best way to interact with Social Justice types. If you refuse to acknowledge their calls for an apology or react to their goads, then you remove any justification they can use with themselves or others for their behavior.
Libertarians whining that people canceled them for their bullshit.
LOL
It's called narcissistic rage. If you line up sjw traits with covert NPD traits, they're identical (especially violently trying to control the narrative through dillusional lies). Liberalism really IS a mental disorder. The only cure is death.
I have a feeling that in some cases, especially high-visibility folks like sports players or business execs, it's not a matter of whether they want to, they're being told either apologize or they're going to be kicked out of the company/team/brand.
Drew Brees is white. Many of his linemen, and other offensive players, are black. I've no doubt Brees was told by his teammates to get with the program, or he might as well retire, and not bother playing this year.
All those I have seen have been forced out anyway, my guess is they are told if you apologize and go peacefully you will get a big severance package.
As for the lowly plebes, like that worker for SDG&E, they are out of luck. Most HR departments are now staffed by recent “Studies” majors as that is one of the few careers open to them.
I had no great love for Rowling but admire her for standing up to those Marxists.
Meh. I’ve always been pretty politically incorrect and willing to say what I think. It hasn’t got me in trouble. I feel like this might be true for 99.6% of people in the world.
John, Robby: is this what you guys refer to as a moral panic? You know... for conservatives.
Now you know how those of us on the socialist Left feel about climate change. I guess the difference is that climate change threatens economic growth, increased suffering, promises global pandemics and the long term habitability of the Earth and cancel culture threatens a few professors and movie stars who have to work with overly sensitive busybodies.
I don’t really worry about the latter. I know why. It’s because I’m morally deficient and have a blind spot to the suffering of crass assholes, sexists, idiots, conspiracy theorists and right-wing trolls. I’m sorry, ok?
We don´t care about socialist assholes like you either.
Yes you do, bitch. You just got canceled.
Concern for climate change is fully endorsed by academia, large parts of the political and professional activist classes.
You can stop pretending to be a plucky underdog fighting teh system and the KKKorpurashions at any time.
>cancel culture threatens a few professors and movie stars
Sure, if you pretend all the times when the mob came after professionals. Or simple workers. Or students.
iT's JuSt cEleBRItieS aNd tENurEd Pr0FeSs0Rs bItCHiNg
Or simple workers
Yeah, poor Milo Yiannopoulos and Mike Cernovich. They’re unemployed and broke now. Must I as a socialist care about every fucking broke lumpenproletariat ever? Being a commie is harder than it looks, comrade!
Yes, the only people who ever got cancelled are attention seekers and grifters like Milo and Cernovich.
Could you look if your family tree is ring-shaped? That might explain some things.
Yours does not have a fork, bitch.
climate change alarmism threatens economic growth, increased suffering, promises global pandemics and the long term habitability of the Earth
FIFY
The alar.ist policies that the climate alarmists push are far more detrimental to economic growth than the slight change if climate over time. Sorry you believe science is found in twitter sound bites and not actual science.
“John, Robby: is this what you guys refer to as a moral panic? You know… for conservatives”
I think it’s another progressive moral panic, since the real pants shitting is being done by people who can’t stand to have vaginas associated with women, etc. That’s not a conservative value.
Yes you climate change people are so realistic. In your mind politicians that can't balance a fucking budget or create a single program that costs what initially was proposed much less accomplished anything, will not suddenly change the temperature of a PLANET! Call me dubious!
To American socialist:
Now imagine people thought differently than you, but you loved them anyway. Isn't that what you demand? Now try giving that, or are you and your kind just here to take and destroy under bs pretexts?
That was a rhetorical question.
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But because he has some different views from the protesters, he must be a racist.
Well, yeah. Just like it was racist to oppose the policies of a certain politician.
Yeah, well, John Stossel is a cis white male so he would say that. He can be safely ignored, nobody cares what that dinosaur thinks. The sooner him and his kind are dead and gone, the better, and then we can all get on with our glorious new woke future where right and wrong and truth and beauty can be weighed on the privilege stack and consensus can be scientifically achieved.
I think you meant 'science can be determined through consensus'?
I though consensus was science.
Science can be consensual as long as there is a 15 page contract and no one got drunk beforehand
Yeah, but then who gets fucked, besides the taxpayers and consumers?
The letter to Harper from leftists decrying cancel culture already has many signatories removing their name from the letter due to cancel culture.
Fucking hilarious.
Hundreds of people then signed a petition to demand that Uhlig, a University of Chicago professor and head of the Journal of Political Economy, resign.
Ah, but was that petition painted in huge block letters on a public street?
We won't actually know if they're really out of control, until they come after somebody important in the Democratic party. If they do that and aren't shut down, they're really out of control.
If they don't, then they're just another in control weapon. Just because a hand grenade causes a lot of collateral damage doesn't mean you're not in control of where it goes off.
If you've been watching, in the past they have certainly been able to turn the Antifa on and off like a light switch, if they think it's becoming unproductive. It wouldn't shock me if they could do it with the cancel culture, but maybe this fire they've set really has gotten out of control.
Stomping your preferences into irrelevance has been and will continue to be a pleasure, Brett -- and an important contribution to our society.
Open wider. Otherwise, January is going to be especially painful for you.
You seem bitter Rev. Open wide and I'll give you a piece of candy.
You are mistaken. I enjoy watching progress occur and bigots get cancelled.
When you're accidentally canceled, your letter isn't going to reach Comrade Stalin in time.
So you'll be celebrating when Trump wins re-election and the Democrat bigots lose their House majority, then?
So toppling statues of George Washington is progress?
It's a conspiracy secretly being run by Big Bronze.
War is Peace.
Freedom is Slavery.
Ignorance is Strength.
I hope so, the asshole was a slave-banger.
Tolerance means being intolerant of intolerance, with intolerance meaning disagreement.
So the Cancel Culture is merely expressing tolerance.
I'm sure we all agree that we ought to love one another,
And I know there are people in the world who do not love
Their fellow human beings, and I hate people like that!
That was a laugh line for Tom Lehrer in 1965.
John Stossel is correct that we are too quick to judge but he has focused on the left and forgets this is true on a broader scale, across political spectrum and other social spectrums. How many Republican politicians saw there political careers end when they criticized President Trump. How many votes did John McCain lose when he defended Barrack Obama as a decent person. I remember Newt Gingrich saying that he would not deport a undocumented grandmother who had lived in the US for 30 years, that ended his presidential run. Too many, are too quick to judge. Too many are help along on this by the mob.
If cancel culture was just people who were offended refusing to patronize the person they felt offended by, cancel culture wouldn't be a despised thing. Cancel culture is the act of actively attacking any third party with a connection to the person they felt offended by. Demanding said third parties denounce the person they are offended by and threatening if they don't then the same attacks currently visited on the person they are offended by will also be visited upon the third party including everyone that the third party is connected to.
You figure Americans should not be free to suggest that decent people and companies should not associate with a repulsive conservative clinger such as Michael Lofthouse?
You believe there is something wrong with arranging consequences for bigotry and backwardness?
You might as well leave, because the next few decades of American progress are going to displease you.
Open wider, clingers.
"You believe there is something wrong with arranging consequences for bigotry and backwardness?"
and yet here you are
It’s ironic, Artie... may I call you Artie? It’s ironic, Artie; just a couple of years ago, J.K. Rowling was a beloved author, because she retconned Dumbledore into being gay, for no purpose connected to the books whatsoever, to gain the applause of the Right People. However, now that she has the wrong views on gender identity, it’s time to burn her as a witch. Hasn’t the left been destroying it’s own, for ideological weakness ,for a while now? Robespierre never expected that he would dance with Madame Guillotine, and yet...
This is out of control because we allow ourselves to be led by politicians for whom it is a conflict of interest to stand up for anything including justice.
People with corrupt agendas are dismantling the check and balance structures of civilization systematically bit by bit to install fascism that supports their objectives.
One method is redefining the words we use.
If you think dictionary definitions should change then you are already caught in a circular loop of faulty logic.
If the meaning of words should change then any argument you make has changed before you can even deliver it.
All past present and future recorded information, all science and logic becomes meaningless, erased like the statues that are being torn down.
Maybe that’s your goal.
After all, if you’re too stupid to understand the meaning of anything or the meaning opposes your agenda, the only way to compete is to make everything meaningless for everyone.
"All past present and future recorded information, all science and logic becomes meaningless, erased like the statues that are being torn down.
Maybe that’s your goal."
That is indeed the goal of the left. The read 1984 and see it not as a warning, but as a blueprint.
I know it but fascism is not exclusive to “the left”.
Why do we have only two opposing choices, right and left, to represent every complex issue that we face?
To divide and conquer.
Everyone, please recall that Rob Misek hates Jews, admires Adolf Hitler, and does NOT believe that NAZIs slaughtered Jews!
Fuck off you bigot.
You are one of the cancel culture bigot dipshits we’re talking about.
A subject is censored by law. I choose to talk about it using my freedom of speech and you try to incite others to be as bigoted as you are.
You never tried to consider or refute my arguments. I considered and soundly refuted yours.
I can do this all day.
Heil Rob Misek! Sieg Heil!
Do you believe that Paul McCartney was murdered and replaced by a double, like your holocaust denier author does?
I never researched it, I don’t talk about it so I have no opinion.
It’s not sinister, fuck off troll.
How convenient that something that would impeach your master is ignored by you.
Have you even reviewed and considered the arguments on that issue?
No?
Have you refuted the arguments?
Of course not.
You are one of the cancel culture bigots that we’re talking about.
Is that the point you’re trying to make?
Have you even reviewed and considered the arguments on that issue?
Which issue? That McCartney is dead? Or that your source has impeached himself?
So he's like a shockingly large number of NFL players who now to wish to lecture us on open-mindedness?
Many NFL players are Holocaust deniers? I wasn't aware... I Googled... All I could easily find was the below... Ya got more?
https://www.si.com/nfl/2015/05/14/cfl-khalif-mitchell-holocaust-denial-fine
CFL All-Star Khalif Mitchell fined for Holocaust denial comments
The Canadian Football League has fined Montreal Alouettes defensive tackle Khalif Mitchell an undisclosed amount after he made comments on Twitter denying the Holocaust occurred, the CFL announced Thursday.
If the shoe fits.
I know how to fix that right quick - - the NFL players.
In the crazy government employment world of CA, measures of the comparative "representation" of races of the employees are compared to the percentage of each race in the general public. And, to ensure "equality", the agencies force their hiring managers to seek out members of specific races such that, the overall ratios of races within the organization mirror will end up mirroring the demographics of the general population outside. It's only fair you know?
I kid you not. This was a stated goal of the Affirmative Action department at EBMUD, the seventh largest water district in the U.S. at the time I worked there. (the early 90s)
Back then, I would point out sarcastically which demographic do we use as the base: The City of Oakland where headquarters are? The entire service area of EBMUD including the reservoirs in the foothills? The State of California? The entire U.S.?
This of course, won me no friends. And, I didn't last long there. There was something akin to cancel culture then as well.
Since then, I've acquiesced. I think we should apply this approach nationwide. Starting with the player staff in the NFL. Time for a good house cleaning. They get lots of attention and it would be good for them to set an example for the public.
I don't see conservatives trying to redefine words. By definition they want to "conserve" traditional meanings.
I haven’t given it much thought because I choose not to be bullied into one of two camps to determine all my decisions.
It is definitely initiated more by people in the “left” camp.
But the “right” doesn’t always oppose it.
I don't let any of the camps determine my decisions, but others do. So it isn't a bad idea to try to understand what and how they think. Know your enemy and all that.
Come on sarcasmic, you know those camps never existed! It can be "scientifically" proven!
Fair enough.
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Disaffected clingers whimpering because modern, mainstream, decent America prefers not to associate with stale-thinking bigots?
That's the American way!
Until Michael Lofthouse is completely cancelled by America -- including deportation -- the cancel culture hasn't gone far enough.
Always good to hear from the totalitarians here. Thanks Rev.
Stossel, how about that mobster President. Jesus fucking christ:
Here’s his list:
August 2012: Trump says Black journalist Touré, then a co-host of the MSNBC show “The Cycle,” should be “forced to resign” for comments in which Touré uttered a variant of the N-word while arguing that Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney was using racially coded language to try to make President Barack Obama seem frightening. (Touré had apologized before Trump’s demand.)
November 2012: Trump suggests the firing of then-MSNBC host Chris Matthews for saying, on the night of Obama’s victory, that he was “so glad” Hurricane Sandy had occurred, because of its political impact. (Matthews had apologized before Trump’s suggestion.)
December 2012: Trump calls for the firing of Vanity Fair magazine Editor Graydon Carter, with whom he had feuded for years, over what he declares the magazine’s “worst ever issue.”
December 2012: Trump says “Scots should boycott Glenfiddich garbage” because the whisky brand selected Michael Forbes, a farmer who refused to sell his land to make way for a Trump golf course, as “Top Scot” of the year.
March 2013: Trump says, “Everyone should cancel HBO until they fire low life dummy Bill Maher! Get going now and feel good about yourself!”
July 2013: Trump asks people to “boycott & cancel subscriptions” to Rolling Stone magazine because of a cover featuring Boston Marathon terrorist Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.
October 2013: Trump urges “everybody possible” to “cancel their subscription” to New York Magazine over an insulting tweet about Trump’s marriage from Dan Amira, who was online editor at the time.
March 2014: After Trump is left off a CNBC list of the most influential business leaders, he says, “Stupid poll should be canceled—no credibility.”
May 2014: Trump calls for the firing of, or at least an apology from, the person at The Oklahoman newspaper who wrote a headline calling then-Oklahoma City Thunder NBA star Kevin Durant “Mr. Unreliable.” (The newspaper had already apologized.)
June 2014: Trump says people should “Boycott Mexico” until a Marine reservist who was jailed for crossing the border with loaded guns is released from prison. (He was released later in the year.)
April 2015: Trump suggests that conservative writer Jonah Goldberg, then a senior editor of National Review magazine, should be forced to resign for writing that Trump had been “tweeting like a 14-year-old girl” in response to another conservative writer calling Trump a clown. Trump also suggests Fox News anchor Bret Baier should stop having Goldberg on his show.
June 2015: When Spanish-language television network Univision severed its business relationship with Trump after his campaign launch speech, in which he labeled Mexican immigrants as criminals and rapists, Trump tweets, “Anyone who wants strong borders and good trade deals for the US should boycott @Univision.”
July 2015: Trump calls for a boycott of Macy’s after Macy’s discontinued its business dealings with him over those same comments about people from Mexico. Trump also tweets “Great” when someone tells him that people are canceling their Macy’s credit cards.
August 2015: Trump calls for the firing of the late conservative writer and Fox News commentator Charles Krauthammer, a regular Trump critic.
September 2015: After National Review editor Rich Lowry argued on Fox News that rival Republican candidate Carly Fiorina had “cut off (Trump’s) balls with the precision of a surgeon” in a primary debate, Trump says: “Incompetent @RichLowry lost it tonight on @FoxNews. He should not be allowed on TV and the FCC should fine him!” (Lowry responds, “I love how Mr. Anti-PC now wants the FCC to fine me. #pathetic.”)
December 2015: Trump calls for the firing of then-CBS News journalist Sopan Deb and NBC/MSNBC journalist Katy Tur over reporting he disputed about how he handled protesters during a rally speech.
February 2016: Trump says people should “boycott all Apple products” until the company stops fighting a government request to break into the cell phone of a deceased California terrorist.
February 2016: Trump says Fox News should fire Republican strategist and commentator Karl Rove for being insufficiently positive about his victory in the Nevada caucuses.
February 2016: Trump calls on the Wall Street Journal to fire its editorial board, which had criticized him, and its pollster, which showed results he didn’t like.
March 2016: Trump proposes a boycott of Megyn Kelly’s Fox News show, complaining that it is too negative toward him.
September 2016: After the Dallas Morning News and Arizona Republic newspapers endorse Hillary Clinton for president and USA Today declares Trump unfit for the office, Trump says, “The people are really smart in cancelling subscriptions to the Dallas & Arizona papers & now USA Today will lose readers! The people get it!”
September 2017: Trump tweets that NFL players and other athletes who don’t stand for the National Anthem should be told, “YOU’RE FIRED.” He says in another tweet, “Fire or suspend!” And at a rally, he says, “Wouldn’t you love to see one of these NFL owners when somebody disrespects our flag to say, ‘Get that son of a bitch off the field right now, out, he’s fired, he’s fired.’ “
October 2017: Suggesting he could use the power of the state against media entities he dislikes, Trump muses about challenging the broadcast licenses of NBC and other networks over their news coverage. (He again broached the subject of reviewing NBC’s license in September 2018.)
November 2017: Trump calls for a boycott of CNN.
August 2018: Trump tweets, “Many @harleydavidson owners plan to boycott the company if manufacturing moves overseas. Great! Most other companies are coming in our direction, including Harley competitors.”
June 2019: Trump suggests people stop “using or subscribing” to AT&T to pressure the company to make changes at CNN, which it owns.
September 2019: Trump suggests that actress Debra Messing should be fired for calling on a news outlet to publish the names of people attending a Trump fundraiser and for a tweet promoting a church sign that said “a black vote for Trump is mental illness.” (Messing had apologized for the tweet about the church sign.)
January 2020: Trump says The New York Times should fire columnist Paul Krugman, a winner of the Nobel Prize in economics, for having incorrectly predicted a global recession after Trump’s victory in 2016.
May 2020: The day after Twitter appended a fact check link to dishonest Trump claims about mail-in voting, Trump threatens to shut down social media companies: “Republicans feel that Social Media Platforms totally silence conservatives voices. We will strongly regulate, or close them down, before we can ever allow this to happen.”
May 2020: Trump seeks the firing of Chuck Todd, host of NBC’s “Meet the Press,” for the show playing a misleadingly shortened clip of comments by Attorney General William Barr. (Todd apologized, saying it was an inadvertent mistake.) Again broaching the power of the state, Trump tags the accounts of the Federal Communications Commission, which regulates television, and its chairman, Ajit Pai.
Did he actually get any of those people fired? I think that's the point. He can bluster all he wants, but it's all bluster. With the left it isn't bluster. They're vicious animals.
Yes, lots of business types were afraid to speak their mind freely because they didn't want Trump attacking them on social media.
How many people lost their jobs over it?
Plenty have over the leftists...
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/07/politics/alex-vindman-donald-trump-impeachment/index.html
Only those that Trump hired in the first place.
Could you repeat that please? I wasn't listening.
Is The Atlantic laying of staff or something???
@Lord of Strazele
I used to laugh when I heard the acronym "TDS" because it looked like another one of those sad conspiracy theories that small minded people buy into. POTUS' of all stripes get criticized always. Mostly because people really want a dictator and not a President..........as long as said President is a fascist who enforces the views of such people.
But, after seeing how you keep a scorecard on every utterance of this particular POTUS, I'm thinking that TDS is actually real...for some people.
Didn't this nonsense used to be called "McCarthyism" and was denounced by all right thinking people?
If we allow them to change the meaning of right and wrong, they still win.
Even more bizarre is every now and then you'll have some moron come claim cancel culture isn't real.
And how is it that the same side that claims to love science wanted a guy fired for sharing data? You forfeit the right to ever cry about climate change when you behave like that.
Kudos to Dame Rowland for standing up to the poorly educated mob. Fight cancel culture. Reason first. I wish I was training in the Socratic method of questioning. I wonder if Socrates questioning in Plato's essay, Euthyphro, might be effective in helping the poorly educated in realizing the contradictions of their beliefs.
Plato and Socrates are not allowed in our institutions of indoctrination. After all, they're just ODWGs and we learned years back that they had to go and be replaced by more modern, more culturally relevant types who are of the same ethnicity as the students.
Heck, it's going on today with the tearing down of statues to be replaced by political slogans in large letters on public property.
Where the heck have you been for the last thirty years?
It's not about who gets cancelled. It's about frightening the masses into submission. There isn't much difference between the jackboots on the right and on the left. Both are authoritarians. You can't kill or cancel everyone, but there really isn't any need. The totalitarians just need to keep the fear level ratcheted up. What I find a bit amusing is the idea that words cause physical pain. Give me a choice between harsh language and the rack... and I'm going to go with harsh language every time. I also think the cancel culture ends up generating more of the behavior they detest... they just force it underground.
Would being middle-centre be the better alignment?
The silver lining of cancel culture is that it gives the left a reason to like employment at will. Maybe Blue Lives Matter will help kill public ee unions too. A boy can dream.
Don't forget it was the left that ushered in mass homeschooling. Unintentionally of course.
Even prominent economists like Janet Yellen and Paul Krugman joined the mob.
Calling Krugman an economist is triggering. Stossel should be banned from Reason, and all of his earlier posts deleted.
I find it disturbing how many "libertarians" apparently become aghast at free association when practiced by the little people.
I guess Stossel feels that privilege should stay reserved for the TV-yapping-class and up?
Hi everyone 🙂 I'd just like to welcome you to 2020 🙂 Cancel culture, virtue signaling, Permit Patty, Karen...etc
I can't wait what new term(s) I'm going to learn 2020 onwards 😀
Emojidouche - someone who uses emojis.
I'm triggered by your use of the racist and sexist meme - "Karen".
I find it quite offensive.
Fuck off, Karen.
How about crybullies. That's the essence of what they are (or woodchipper fertilizer?)
The cancel culture is not out of control.
What is out of control is freedom in this capitalist hell hole.
If we eliminate all freedom, then there will be no more cancel culture because our wise and enlightened betters will do our thinking for us, watch over us to ensure we're going down the straight and narrow path of glorious totalitarian socialism and our children grow up in a wonderful world filled with tyranny, mass murder, oppression and a ruined economy.
America needs more cancel culture, not less if we are to achieve these most noble and lofty socialist ideals.
(Goes back to polishing hammers and sickles.)
"our wise and enlightened betters will do our thinking for us, watch over us to ensure we’re going down the straight and narrow path of glorious totalitarian socialism and our children grow up in a wonderful world"
Wow! You must be on the same NextDoor groups that I am.
Nope. Pandering, spineless "elites" who cave to cancel culture are out of control. Cancel culture only works if we allow it to work.
This whining about "cancel culture" is a joke. There's no such thing as cancel culture. Shunning has existed for as long as humans have had societies.
So has slavery.
So has racism.
And it's been decried by history every time it's taken control.
Salem witch trials.
McCarthyism.
Cancel Culture.
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but... but... Giving the squeakiest weevil exactly what they want is the Democratic way (i.e. Mob Rules). Oh yeah; the USA was founded as a Republic NOT a Democratic Mob Rules and that simple difference is the very foundation of the Left and Right divide as well as it's misunderstanding being the very fall of this nation.
Don't confuse "We" with "I" else surely "I" individual will have absolutely no freedom what-so-ever as well as becoming a servant-slave to the [WE] foundation.
Stop teaching the people that the "squeakiest weevil" can obtain wealth and get whatever they want by means of "mob rules"... Become sane again and support the idea that wealth must be earned by value; not by theft.
It's for your own good!
Even the language they use is outrageous, churning out nonsensical snake-like sentences that would make Hemingway blush, sentences filled with the kind of hyperbole reminiscent of dust-covered leaves from thousands of marching soldiers on a day so hot the sun leaves sweat droplets on everything struggling for breath. Who are these people and why is corporate America, which includes the MSM, afraid of them? They even engage in open death threats and we're still supposed to smile and nod? I wish I were famous so I could have a crack them. If you purchase one of my novels on on Amazon I could possibly reach that goal. Search the name "Andy Wingall".
Aw, Stossel does not want free speech to have consequences.
What a whiny bitch he has become!
If speech has consequences, how could it be considered free? Is it freedom for thee, but not for me? Doesn't that make you just like your spiritual ancestors, the slave owners, and us the slaves? Please don't whip me massa!
The problem with the left is that they question everything outside of themselves, as a matter of rebellion. They seem incapable of questioning themselves.
Lack of introspection; the cornerstone of all personality disorders.
My only issue with all this is unemployment
Want to fire someone for speech outside of work? Fine. But I don't see how it can be "for cause". Every single person canceled better be getting unemployment insurance, and every company willing to fire people for stuff that has no relation to work better have their unemployemnt insurance rate rise.
I don't care if a mofo is a legit neo-nazi screaming "kill the jews" on the weekends, or a NAMBLA pedophile screaming "fuq the children" on his off time - that shit has nothing to do with work. They are in no way representing the company in their off time