Conspiracy Theories

How This Bill Gates Coronavirus Conspiracy Theory Made Its Way from a Reddit Thread to Laura Ingraham

No, Gates didn't create COVID-19, and he does not want to microchip us all.

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"The difference between a conspiracy theory and a scientific theory," the sociologist John Gagnon once said, "is that a scientific theory has holes in it."

The sort of conspiracy theory that Gagnon was mocking—an all-encompassing narrative that explains away any apparent discrepancies as part of the cover-up—doesn't require a crisis to exist, but they often proliferate with one. COVID-19 is no exception.

Consider Bill Gates, the Microsoft billionaire who, some say, has branched out from his tech empire to invent something different—the novel coronavirus—so that he can track everyone's movements.

"Whether Bill Gates played some role in the creation and spread of this virus is open for vigorous debate," former Trump campain aide Roger Stone told radio host Joe Piscopo ealier this year. "I have conservative friends who say it's ridiculous and others say absolutely."

The debate is hardly rigorous, as the theory is not based in fact. It hinges on a viral Reddit thread.

Gates and his philanthropies have long been active in the infectious disease arena. In 2015 he gave a TED Talk on the potential for a post-Ebola pandemic. "The failure to prepare could allow the next epidemic to be dramatically more devastating than Ebola," he said. "You can have a virus where people feel well enough while they're infectious that they get on a plane, or they go to a market."

In the era of COVID-19, that sounds prophetic. Too prophetic for some conspiracy theorists, who have contorted Gates's efforts around epidemics to suit a more Machiavellian narrative in which his prediction was actually a plan. They also point to his funding of vaccine research, accusing him of funneling millions toward a coronavirus cure—a fix for the disease he allegedly orchestrated—in order to plant microchips in people's bodies to follow their whereabouts.

The idea that Gates concocted the disease may have originated with a YouTuber devoted to the QAnon conspiracy theory; the conspiracist site Infowars then regurgitated it. Then came the aforementioned Reddit discussion, in which Gates answered users' questions about effective global responses to COVID-19. "Eventually we will have some digital certificates to show who has recovered," he wrote, "or been tested recently or when we have a vaccine who has received it."

A popular reply—the one with the most "up votes"—expressed skepticism, sharing an apocalyptic endtimes verse from the Book of Revelation. "Not a religious fanatic," the user LatexSanta wrote; "I just think it's appropriate, given the Orwellian implications of microchipping citizens and the frighteningly easy leap to authoritarian abuse it implies."

What caused that user to leap from digital records to microchips remains unclear. Gates has no known intention to implant people with anything—he was referring to a digital platform that would expand "access to safe, home-based testing" and would help medical professionals in remote areas retrieve records. But the idea took off: According to a Yahoo News/YouGov pollabout 44 percent of Republicans and 19 percent of Democrats now believe the microchip story is true.

How could a fringe theory, or perhaps a mere misinterpretation, somehow seep from the crevices of an online discussion into the open air of debate?

Gates had two major marks against him from the get-go: his wealth, and the animus a small subset of the population—so-called "anti-vaxxers"—has for vaccines.

"The reasons that people were against vaccines 100 and 20 years ago are pretty much the same reasons that they're against vaccines now," says Jon D. Lee, a folklorist who has written extensively about the anti-vaccination movement. Some have religious objections. Some offer scientific arguments, which are sometimes based in a kernel of truth that's then blown way out of proportion. Fears about mercury poisoning, for example, have popped up over time. Though it's true that some vaccines contain thimerosal, a mercury-containing compound, it's about the same amount you'd find in a can of tuna.

While the core of the anti-vax movement is pretty consistent, the circumstances and specifics evolve with each passing crisis, which is what can unwittingly thrust someone like Bill Gates into the center of the debate. "Almost everything in folklore is simultaneously dynamic and conservative," says Lee. "It changes and doesn't change." 

In 2020, those anxieties have merged with fears of surveillance. "Digitally tracking Americans' every move has been a dream of the globalists for years," Laura Ingraham tweeted in April, sharing an article from the conspiracy-theory site the Vigilant Citizen. "This health crisis is the perfect vehicle for them to push this." The piece she quotes claims that Gates is attempting to enshrine a global order where the tracking system "would be used to grant access to rights and services."

Emerald Robinson of the right-wing site Newsmax was more explicit than Ingraham. "Bill Gates is very interested in one area of medicine: vaccines," she tweeted last month. "Why? Because govts can mandate that people get them. And if vaccines include microchips then you have worldwide surveillance."

Gates has donated $250 million to coronavirus vaccine research—pocket change in the grand scheme of his $107 billion net worth. That enormous wealth makes him an ideal villain for these conspiratorial complaints: Just ask George Soros, David Koch, or the Rothschild family, all of whom have been accused of controlling society through nefarious channels.

"We had this in the 2003 SARS outbreak where Donald Rumsfeld," the two-time former secretary of defense, "was in several conspiracy theories claiming he was behind the entire outbreak," says Lee. Rumsfeld was chairman of the biopharmaceutical company Gilead Sciences from 1997 to 2001.

And all this is happening at a moment when everything seems to be political. Masks are political. Social-distancing measures are political. Vaccines are political. Bill Gates is political. People are going to generate political narratives about all these things, and not all of those narratives will be based in reality.

"When you look at the nature of conspiracy theories, and you get these people together online talking to each other and feeding each other the same narratives, it ends up forming its own generative power," says Lee. "Facts are very bad at changing people's minds."

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  1. Reason might be the most servile publication I’ve ever seen

    1. Roger Stone told radio host Joe Piscopo ealier this year…

      the [Reddit] user LatexSanta wrote…

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    2. Servile in what sense?

      1. Nardz has a kind of counter-language ability few can match. Here, servile means they don’t write what he wants, and rather than write it himself, he whines petulantly.

        1. Lol
          Whats worse than being a servile publication?
          Being a commenter thats lost all credibility because he can’t tolerate criticism of his favorite rag for their rather obvious progressive, leftist, shallow turn

          1. The kindest description of someone who calls Reason “leftist” is delusional.

            1. Oh lol, seriously??

              Look at the people baking the cake, half the writers here make AOC look like a Rethuglikkkan trope.

              Have you ever read Matt Welch’s tweets? Read Billy Binion’s Huffpo articles? Suderman’s Vox and Politico stuff?
              Look at anything by Shika and Boehm.

              1. Welch, Binion and Suderman leftist? Lol

                QED

                1. Didn’t click the link, huh.

                  1. Or he never watched Game Of Thrones and instead of asking what the tweet meant he came to the mindless defense of the writers. Hmm.

                    1. I’m not defending them. I don’t consider leftist any more an insult than rightist or centrist.

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            2. YOU’RE delusional. 99% of what they talk about here and how they talk about it comes straight from all the big left-wing media outlets: the New York times, the Washington Post, Newsweek, the Atlantic, Vox, CNN, MSNBC.

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    3. Libertarians are the biggest bootlickers in the world

  2. Great job Binion. Now do “How This Russiagate Conspiracy Theory Made Its Way from a Fake Oppo Research Dossier to Every Single Headline in Every Single Newspaper and News Network for 2 1/2 Years.”

    1. By the way. You don’t have to be a ridiculous anti-vaxxer to think that Bill Gates’ open endorsement of tracing apps as a short-sighted way to “stop a pandemic” will have horrible unintended consequences. Fine, he may not want to literally chip you, but he does want to have the government track the one thing that you are pretty much guaranteed to take everywhere you go and he doesn’t seem the least bit interested in talking about the potential downsides or long term ramifications. He’s pushing the idea that technocracy is your friend, period. Reading your entire article, you don’t seem to have any issue with that, you’re more suspicious of the Q’anon people than you are at a government that has repeatedly demonstrated a refusal to use such powers responsibly.

      1. Yeah, the tracing apps are a really bad idea and pretty scary. Gates should stick to vaccinating people in the third world and giving grants for research. He’s done enough in tech by saddling us all with the Microsoft monstrosity.

        1. If Bill Hates really wants to help public health agencies he should take over part of the annual US WHO contribution now that Trump has cut it. And get his fellow billionaires to help.

          It’s only $419 million, chump change for someone like Gates or Bezos or Bloomberg. Of course, they won’t do it because they have no interest in subsidizing incompetent corrupt international agencies either.

          1. Lol Bill Gates

            1. I think he is their second biggest donor behind the US.
              Feel free to double check me on that though

      2. I could swear I heard comments from him years ago supporting implants for ID and commerce. I actually didn’t hear anything about him possibly suggesting microchips in regards to covid.
        I don’t know where the theory that he created the virus finds any substance. I do, however, see that he is using it to push for things he profits from monetarily and ideologically.

      1. Bill Gates may be a weasel but fuck the Bollinger snake oil salesmen running that site.

        1. LOL!!!! Ok, you can roll up yer sleeves and get injected with Big Pharma’s poison, I prefer not to!!!

          “Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when medicine will organize into an undercover dictatorship to restrict the art of healing to one class of Men and deny equal privileges to others; the Constitution of the Republic should make a Special privilege for medical freedoms as well as religious freedom.”

          Those are the words of Dr. Benjamin Rush, noted physician, medical professor and an early surgeon general to all Continental armies. A signer of the Declaration of Independence, Rush represented Pennsylvania at the Continental Congress, but not before establishing himself as a popular physician and professor in Philadelphia. A noted humanitarian, Rush was also an important writer, having authored the first American textbook on Chemistry and ultimately contributing several essays to newspapers applauding the Patriot cause.

          1. “I don’t like fake quotes attributed to me.” – Benjamin Rush

          2. “Big Pharma’s poison”

            You’re an anti-vaxxer, aren’t you.

  3. This is all part of their plans. What do I mean? Fox News, Donald Trump, Bill Gates Hillary Clinton— they are all working together! Are you shocked? Don’t believe it? Are you sure you haven’t already been implanted? Why would they wait for a pandemic to start implanting? Of course they haven’t been waiting this has been going on for decades! Donald Trump has a chip. He is under their control. They also control Obama and Hillary but Donald Trump is their greatest achievement. Why? Through Trump they now control the very people who were fighting and resisting the One World Order. Please share this message!

    1. To be fair, while I don’t believe Gates has a plan to chip us all, the Davos crowd he runs with would be absolutely delighted to if they thought they could get away with it.

      When those guys look at the CCP they blush with jealousy and admiration.

      1. I think he would love to chip us all. He is a globalist shill. Why else is he and his wife (whos only claim to fame is that she married a billionaire) in the news so much? It probably isn’t for the money, so it must be for the attention and to push anti-America globalism.

  4. The only people I’ve ever met who still go by Billy after high school have turned out to be rapists. Not even joking. This isn’t a conspiracy and I’m not saying you’re definitely a rapist but I’m calling the police and having you investigated for a series of rapes that you definitely committed.

  5. Billy Binion should brush up on his Jesse Walker.

    “The fear of intrigue and subversion doesn’t exist only on the fringes of society, but has always been part of our national identity. When such tales takes hold, Walker argues, they reflect the anxieties and experiences of the people who believe them, even if they say nothing true about the objects of the theories themselves.”

    https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0062135554/reasonmagazinea-20/

    When people think that Obama is a secret Muslim who wasn’t born in the United States, the smart thing to do isn’t to point how stupid people are if they believe in the conspiracy theory. The interesting aspect was that a large and growing segment of the American people believed that the president didn’t reflect their values cared more about people elsewhere in the world than he did about average Americans.

    Read Walker first and then tell us what a growing conspiracy theory about big tech and COVID-19 really means today.

    P.S. Biden is about to get so fucked.

    1. It’s a fun book. Calm, interesting, pokes around corners of society you wouldn’t know about otherwise.

    2. Biden is about to get so fucked.

      Did something happen ?

      1. shit I fucked that up

      2. If there’s a Birther-sized conspiracy theory incubating that big tech initiated COVID-19 as a means towards destroying the economy and controlling average Americans, then my first pass analysis is that a growing number of average Americans associate shutting down of the economy at their expense with the Democrats. And if that’s the way an increasing number of people in middle America see the world, then I don’t see how Joe Biden does well in rust belt swing states in that environment come November.

        1. Interesting. That would be lovely, though there seems to be a serious cognitive dissonance between most people’s innate judgements and their political expressions, esp in the era of Trump.
          I always appreciate your take Ken.

        2. Unfortunatley there are so many on the left that claim if only Trump had done “x” even before anyone in the world knew Kunglfu was about to happen. don’t forget all teh media 100000 dead because of Trump and the gop etc that is the on going meme from now till election day even though teh 100000 dead is in fact 100% in error

          1. I also find it telling that they’re willing to lay everyone of the deaths (we’ll never know the real number since they decided to count dishonestly) at the Trump admin’s feet in the abstract, but Cuomo knowingly forced it into nursing homes and that’s not worth talking about.

            1. And now Cuomo is trying to hide his murderous order!…I’ll bet dollars to donuts all this was intentional murder to (1) get more Fed money, as CV deaths in states can get FED money & (2) Take Trump down!

              https://www.lifenews.com/2020/05/27/andrew-cuomo-deletes-nursing-home-order-which-killed-thousands-from-health-department-web-site/

          2. Yeah they’rd claiming that, but selling it hasnt worked mich on anyone but people who hate Trump already.

            Meanwhile, Dem governors are still fighting Trump to stay closed. Sends a powerful message that they can’t shift to anyone.

          3. The last Gallup polls I saw suggest that Trump is right about where he started in the opinion polls before COVID-19 showed up–which is amazing. 37 million people lose their jobs, and his approval rate is about the same?!

            There are progressives who say this or that, but just like in 2016, I’m not sure how many people are really buying in.

            Meanwhile, let’s talk about that conspiracy theory. If that’s what more and more average people are thinking, how can that be good for the Democrats? Being the party of elitist techno billionaires, surveillance, and lockdowns isn’t a good look for them in an election year.

            1. (1) Trump’s ratings were the same when the economy was red-hot. There’s apparently a solid niche market for President Dumpster-Fire. Kinda limited tho….

              (2) But elections are decided in the center, by voters whose only reliability is they’re unreliable. How many of them will vote to reelect a petty malignant man-child clown – particularly one who couldn’t stop his buffoon act even during a national catastrophe? Not enough. Uncle Joe at least looks like a real human being….

              (3) Rather more likely analysis than putting your faith in a tin-foil-hat conspiracy theory saving Trump from himself. Besides, anyone imbecile enough to believe your Covid “birther-sized” nonsense was already a Trump voter anyway…….

        3. And here I thought you were talking about the Tom Wolf interview shart. Yeah, it was amusing, and one of those rare instances where a twitter feed was mostly funny without the hysterical shrieking, but not a “totally fucked Joe Biden out of the presidential race” event.

          1. That shit was amazing. Wolf’s reaction sealed the deal.
            Special thanks to Ra’s al Gore for providing the real a.m. links.

          2. The appearance on Charlamagne tha God would be a “totally fucked Joe Biden out of the presidential race” event if his name had an (R) behind it.

            Maybe the worst part of this pandemic is that every day it drags on it deprives us of the clown show that will be Trump and Biden sharing in a stage accusing each other of being lunatics in the most senile, incoherent ways imaginable. If they just want to lock both of them in a room together and put a web cam on it until the first week of November, I will gleefully participate in the lockdowns so I don’t have to miss one second.

            1. Pay-per-view I could subscribe to; the more drinking the better.

  6. “And all this is happening at a moment when everything seems to be political. Masks are political. Social-distancing measures are political. Vaccines are political. Bill Gates is political. People are going to generate political narratives about all these things, and not all of those narratives will be based in reality.”

    Yeah now where did we hear this before. Oh right the made up Russian collusion bullshit that resulted in a nonsense impeachment. Let’s not forget every nasty thing said about John McCain or Mitt Romney while they were candidates for president. And the praise lavished on them when they became part of the so called resistance mob. They were unacceptable Bush clones until they were defanged by the press. Then every bullshit story told about GW Bush and his father drummed up by the media. Etc. all in service to one ideal that a Democrat must serve to keep abortion legal. Sickening.

  7. In 2020, those anxieties have merged with fears of surveillance. “Digitally tracking Americans’ every move has been a dream of the globalists for years,” Laura Ingraham tweeted in April

    I don’t know who Laura Ingraham is, and I admit I probably don’t want to dig too deep here, but that tweet you linked on its own isn’t exactly… “untrue”. It has in fact been a dream of most governments to digitally track the movements of its citizens, the U.S. having been engaged in this very kind of tracking for quite some time- in one manner or another. Or maybe we ignore Snowden’s revelations completely? She’s also correct in that this pandemic IS probably a great vehicle for that.

    I don’t know what further meaning she places behind her tweet, so everything after that is speculation. Also, she didn’t really tweet the article, she retweeted someone else who tweeted someone else who tweeted the vigilantcitizen article. If I understand twitter correctly, that vigilant citizen article was like three or four tweets deep.

    Further, is it a fact that Bill Gates called for a digital certificate? If it’s not, then yes, that’s pretty shitty. But if it IS a fact, then we need to ask ourselves what the meaning of that digital certificate would mean. It doesn’t seem like a stretch to mean that said certificate would, at least in the short term, be used to give an individual a kind of ‘go ahead’ to openly conduct business or not be subject to ongoing lockdowns.

    Yes, I definitely can see how people can artfully run away with such information and churn it into the butter of conspiracy. But… I think reasonable people living in a free society should be on the lookout for these types of things, and be asking questions– at the minimum.

    1. No need for conspiracies. “never let a crisis go to waste” is dangerous and scary enough. I don’t think people are ever organized enough to conspire to create the whole situation we are in. But people are certainly good at seizing opportunities when they are presented. Most modern dictatorships grew out of unending states of emergency.

    2. It doesn’t seem like a stretch to mean that said certificate would, at least in the short term, be used to give an individual a kind of ‘go ahead’ to openly conduct business or not be subject to ongoing lockdowns.

      So what you are saying it that it’s literally the mark of the beast.

        1. Well, okay. Fifteen is the minimum, okay?

    3. If I understand twitter correctly, that vigilant citizen article was like three or four tweets deep.

      Look, we can’t know anything for sure. Except Twitter isn’t in any way responsible. We know that because Congress told us so.

    4. It did seem odd that based on just this tweet, she made it into the subtitle. But then I remembered that she is pro-hydroxychloroquine and has doctors that are using it to treat their Wuhan virus patients on her show. Now there’s a conspiracy that rings true!

  8. All conspiracy theories are products of a CIA disinformation program.

    #metaconspiracy

  9. And if vaccines include microchips then you have worldwide surveillance.

    He’ll probably push “Vaccination as a Service” and you’ll end up having to pay a yearly subscription.

    1. Yeah, but that will come with just the syringe. You have to pay extra for the vaccine its self.

  10. Did Bill Gates create the ChiRona?
    I haven’t seen any evidence indicating so.

    Has Bill Gates been pushing pandemic fears and mass mandatory vaccinations for years?
    Yes, and I remember this fact being a bragging point of his fans a few weeks/months ago.

    Did Bill Gates found/fund the IHME, one of the organizations whose shitty models were a primary motivation for panic and the ceding of totalitarian power to government – power which was then used to completely upend society and destroy tens of millions of lives?
    Yes.

    Human sacrifice has a place in civilization. Bill Gates is behind the devastation of our country. If he had an ounce of honor, he’d kill himself right now. Of course, he doesn’t.
    He needs to be fucking ended, be it by his own hand or that of a righteous mob.

    1. No Nardz, a couple of hundred Q’Anon believers are the problem. Bill Gates is a brilliant saint. Long may he reign!

    2. I think a lot more blame lies with the people who believed the shitty models. Gates seems to want rule by technocrat, so fuck him. But I think you are laying it on a bit thick here.

      1. Calm down man.

      2. Yea, there’s plenty of blame to go around.
        But Gates want to impose technocracy and spend his money creating bullshit “science” to use to ruin people’s lives, then he’s got to take the consequences when it becomes obvious it was all bullshit.
        Off with his head, literally

  11. Waiting for the Trumpistas to come along and say how this is all true.

    1. Really?

      That made me sad for you.

      1. He’s a true TDS sufferer.

      2. Poor chap will be waiting for a while.

      3. Really. My prediction was correct. Just go read the rest of this comment section. The conspiratards are out in force.

    2. Wait for progressives and big L Libertarias to come along and adore the corrupt billionaire and his progressive agenda.

  12. I saw a video of Bill gates where he said everyone should have a chip that list all the vaccines they have, he did not state how it was going to come about. tried googling it now but its buried under a million million articles claiming he never said that. I think cover up is the correct word to use here. so conspiracy, no he did say it so its true.

    1. Archive everything.

      1. At the time i didn’t think much of it otherwise i would have

    2. I have a vague recollection of the same. It’s why articles like these are frustrating. A couple randos believing Gates created the virus is nothing and I think most people see it that way. The article is attempting to gaslight anyone who recalls the latter point as basically true by tying it to something obviously untrue

  13. I’m not a tin-hat guy and I don’t buy conspiracy nonsense. But missing from this article is discussion of some shindig last fall called “Event 201”. Bill Gates and other richies put together this big pandemic simulation at Johns Hopkins. Quoting from the Event 201 website:

    “Event 201 simulates an outbreak of a novel zoonotic coronavirus transmitted from bats to pigs to people that eventually becomes efficiently transmissible from person to person, leading to a severe pandemic. The pathogen and the disease it causes are modeled largely on SARS, but it is more transmissible in the community setting by people with mild symptoms.”

    The simulation was held on October 18, 2019. I’m not down with conspiracies, but … you’ve got to be kidding me. Read about it here:

    https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/scenario.html

    1. Seems a little suspicious. But I don’t think it was so hard to predict. If there is going to be a major pandemic it will have to be something easily transmitted which pretty much means respiratory virus, which means most likely influenza or a coronavirus. Given the recent serious coronavirus episodes with SARS and MERS, it’s not such a remarkable coincidence that they would choose something like those, but more readily spread and less aggressive.

      1. It’s both the scenario and the timing of the event. I agree, the concept was predictable: researchers had laid it out 15 years ago studying SARS. But to simulate that exact scenario within a couple weeks of the start of the real thing? I’d be totally freaked if I’d attended that party.

    2. that was interesting and timely just like Dr Fauci prediction in 2017 that a virus would screw over Trump.

    3. Cue Twilight Zone music…

    4. >>novel

      even playing SimVirus they call it novel

    5. I agree that it wouldn’t be that hard to predict. A lot of people have been predicting a coronavirus pandemic for decades. I also don’t think it is the least bit ridiculous to assume that people in power (think tanks that meet with politicians for example) have been coming up with contingency plans for when it inevitably happens and said plans involve pretty obscene power grabs. I haven’t bothered to go through any of the literature that a lot of pandemic preparedness groups put out, but it wouldn’t surprise me if many of them were openly advocating for things that many of us would think are massive government overreaches.

  14. Why would anyone need a tracking microchip when they carry around a smartphone wherever they go?

    1. the smart phone will only know if you’ve been vaccinated if you tell it otherwise it knows nothing and can be turned off or left at home etc

    2. Agreed. Not to mention that most time when you query some company they want to send a tracking cookie.

    3. Just spitballing here, but because you can leave a cellphone at home or have someone else carry it around I suppose.

  15. Yeah, it’s enough that the IHME, which his foundation is funding, came out with a garbage model that led to the nuking of the American economy.

  16. well he certainly wants to chip us all.

  17. Where Gates is concerned one thing is certain, he has been a virus expert since Windows 95.

    1. This is John McAfee’s time to shine.

  18. Instead of digging up stuff, simply invite Mr Gates to sit down with you and air these questions. I would certainly be interested in what he has to say. Then he can clarify his positions and more importantly his intentions to the rest of mankind. I won’t hold my breath waiting for this interview.

    1. Joe Rogan would be a great choice to do the interview. Spotify is $100mil and I am sure both would enjoy the ratings.

  19. It’s not a conspiracy theory, it’s trolling, and you’re falling for it.

    The core of truth to this is that Bill Gates is a progressive creep who is using his billions to try to reshape the US.

  20. Part of what is driving the conspiracy with Gates is Event 201 which was conducted in Oct of 2019.

    “Event 201 simulates an outbreak of a novel zoonotic coronavirus transmitted from bats to pigs to people that eventually becomes efficiently transmissible from person to person, leading to a severe pandemic. The pathogen and the disease it causes are modeled largely on SARS, but it is more transmissible in the community setting by people with mild symptoms.”

    https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/about

    1. Ahh. I see Chute_Me beat me to it.

      Missed it by that much.

  21. So basically, the author simply dismisses long established facts as conspiracy theories. If you haven’t learned this yet, the useful idiots who support the elites/cabal/globalist (whatever you want to call them) constantly try to deflect anyone from believing any truth that threatens to expose them as a “conspiracy theory” because they have succeeded in defining that term in our society as negative. As if every so called conspiracy theory is by definition patently false and only repeated/shared by misguided uninformed idiots.
    Think for yourselves people. Why is this? Do you really trust Gates, globalists, politicians, George Soros, Rockefellers, Rothchilds, etc.
    Also, another ploy they use is to describe the so called conspiracy theory in its most outrageous terms (i.e. Gates wants to chip every human) as a way to discredit ANY negative reporting on the person(s) who are the object of the reporting. This means that if Gates simply wants to vacinate as many people as possible (to kill many people or to make money, or both) and the vaccine doesn’t actually contain a microchip, by discrediting ANY Gates conspiracy theories, you’ve dismissed ALL Gates related conspiracy theories.
    The point is, this author wants to dismiss all globalist conspiracy theories by saying “Gates chipping everyone” is not true, therefore, ALL conspiracy theorists are bad.
    Sometimes, often, or most of the time in fact, the set of facts and analysis the globalists’ tools dismiss by simply calling them “conspiracy theories” are actually true. Saying they’re not true, doesn’t make them not true.

  22. This discussion thread is amazing.

    When did Reason become the destination where retarded nut-job anti-vaxxer Trump fanboys gather to suck each other off?

  23. Conservatives are eat up with Conspiracy Theories.

    Pizzagate, Jade Helm, Agenda 21, Benghazi, Birtherism and so many more.

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/04/coronavirus-conspiracies-charged-conservative-media-fox-news

    Their leader traffics in lies and the rot starts at the head.

    1. How’s that Russian asset thing workin out for ya plug?

      Sucker!

    2. Let’s see:
      “Trump’s a Russian spy.” 
      “Kavanaugh ran a secret gang rape cartel.”
      “Covington kids assaulted a vet.”
      “Trump said neo-Nazis were “fine people”
      “MAGA madmen lynched Smollet”
      “Trump told Cohen to lie to Congress”

      I guess the difference would be conservative conspiracies are found deep in the bowels of 4chan and reddit, but prog conspiracies are pushed in national newspapers and on TV.

      Also, in what alternate universe are you from where the 2012 Benghazi attack is fake?

    3. Wow, you get your COVID news from 20-something journalism major who writes for a gossip magazine for the upper crust.

      And then it contains whoppers like:

      “conspiracy theories including believing that some in the CDC were exaggerating the seriousness of the virus to undermine the presidency of Donald Trump.”

      So you are saying that every single person at the CDC is a Trump-loving, dutiful public servant who couldn’t possibly do anything to oppose Trump? We already know that’s not true, just look at Dr. Bright.

      The Harvard study shed light on how widespread this idea has become, as 38% of respondents believe that both COVID-19 and the flu are “as likely as the other to result in death.”

      Yes, that is clearly stupid. For the majority of Americans, COVID-19 is less likely to result in death than the common flu, based on CDC data.

  24. You should talk about Gates when he was on CNN recently. He nearly came in his pants when the Fareed Zakaria started to talk about the collapse of the economy.

    1. I’ll never understand why people watch that crap. Quitting teevee is like throwing away cigarettes. You don’t miss it.

    2. Of course your hatred of Gates didn’t effect your perception of him I’m sure.

  25. Is there a reason Billy’s articles come with the usual ‘No, I didn’t take a shit…’ tagline?

    1. When I was a kid my kid sister didn’t have a scar reaction to the usual travel vaccines. Other siblings checked out but she had to take the same damn vaccinations coming and going every time. None of us died or became Mr Hyde. What me worry?

      1. I’m not afraid of the vaccines and I certainly want my daughter vaccinated. The probabilities of vaccines causing harm are remote.

        I can’t get too overly excited over all this.

        1. The probabilities of vaccines causing harm are remote.

          That’s true for the half dozen or so common vaccines that have been in use for decades. Many vaccines do cause harm with significant probability, which is why they are not routinely administered.

          The idea that vaccines are intrinsically safe is as idiotic as the idea that vaccines are intrinsically dangerous.

      2. The only common vaccination that causes a scar is smallpox vaccination. Serious side effects occurred in 1-2% of vaccinations. Since smallpox vaccination uses live viruses, people who have been vaccinated also pose a risk to individuals with compromised immune systems around them.

  26. I don’t think this article dispels the conspiracy.

    I have doctor friends that say they want people to have vaccination certificates in order to attend events. This is hardly conspiratorial. There are doctors who openly advocate for it. Call it Digital ID, micro-chipping….whatever.

    Wouldn’t surprise me one bit something dubious comes out of all this hysteria. Say, needing to produce vaccination papers to travel to certain countries.

    Or maybe the vaccine comes along and we just treat it like we did the flu. Most people will take it and there won’t be a need for mandatory measures. That is, we just learn to adjust and live with it while achieving some level of immunity.

    For now, the media though is going to do everything it can to make sure they pimp out every bit of emotional scientism (wear masks, gloves, plexiglass, social distancing, lockdowns etc.) in order to keep ratings up. All these measures that border on superstition that “probably” works is marginally better than conspiracies.

    The politics and journalism of fear and emotions is a cottage industry onto itself.

    In sum, personally I wouldn’t trust a vaccine that comes from China.

    1. They can want the vaccination certificates to ensure no one who could be infected could spread it and infect others, or….

      They have a super seeeekrit Dr Evil-style plot to enslave the world!

      MWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!

      1. Hey man, I personally don’t think it’s going to happen – not the way they say anyway – but wouldn’t surprise me either.

        I see a great over reaction to this virus so there may be sufficient ‘fear’ to usher in a draconian measure or two in the interest go public health.

        1. I see people in cars by themselves, wearing masks. They think they are doing some good.

          Over reacting takes you there.

      2. I remember when people were saying it was conspiracy to think the government would abuse the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. act.

    2. Wouldn’t surprise me one bit something dubious comes out of all this hysteria. Say, needing to produce vaccination papers to travel to certain countries.

      You don’t travel much, do you? That’s been the case for a long, long time.

      I have doctor friends that say they want people to have vaccination certificates in order to attend events.

      I don’t have a problem with that as long as the vaccinations are voluntary and as long as we are talking about private events.

      The debate about vaccinations is whether the government should be able to force you to undergo vaccination against your will for any vaccination that government exerts believe to be “in the public interest”.

  27. Thanks for the article. The versions reaching me were so garbled as to leave plenty of doubt just what kind of bugbear was hiding under the bed. I wasn’t worried then and am even less so now. Good work!

  28. “It hinges on a viral Reddit thread.”
    I stopped right there. Reddit is at minimum the 4th link in the human centipede that is the internet. If you quote it, then you can be no higher than the 5th link.

    1. I suppose if I ask you what the first three are you’ll have to kill me.

  29. So that ratfucker Roger Stone started this.

    Of course.

  30. Reason might be the most servile publication I’ve ever seen

  31. I know it’s important to use the CIA’s favorite smear term to achieve the purpose of this piece, but the theory as you’ve described it involved Bill Gates acting alone. Therefore, it does not allege a “conspiracy.”

    Without endorsing any of the claims of the theory, did you contact the Gates Foundation and ask for a comment on the use of chip implants to track people’s movements for the purpose of contact tracing, etc.? No.

    Did you ask the Gates Foundation if it had any comment on the allegation that research it funded may have resulted in an artificially altered coronavirus? Of course not.

    Really, this piece is just an opportunity to put the words “conspiracy theory” in the headline of a piece that isn’t even about a conspiracy theory. Nice work, there, “journalist.”

  32. “”Without endorsing any of the claims of the theory, did you contact the Gates Foundation and ask for a comment on the use of chip implants to track people’s movements for the purpose of contact tracing, etc.? No.””

    Journalism isn’t what it use to be. Especially investigative journalism.

  33. While reading about this goofy conspiracy theory, a painfully obvious question occurred to me: Is it even technologically possible to inject a tiny tracking chip into a person’s body with a vaccine? And lo and behold, OF COURSE IT ISN’T! Not only is there no technology that allows for a tracking chip (some kind of nano tech) small enough to be injected into your bloodstream, even a larger chip implanted under your skin (using RFID technology) cannot emit any GPS type tracking data. It’s pure science fiction to think that Bill Gates, or anyone else, can do anything of the kind. Come in for a landing people!

    1. I agree with you that RFID cannot be (presently) injected into somebody’s circulatory system. But Nano research is NOT far from this.

      I know an organic chemist who can do this. I will not mention his name publicly because I don’t want to connect him with this thread.

      Jcambro, it appears that you may be completely WRONG. RFID may not be available now, but it certainly will be in a very short time.

      Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
      Retired surgeon

      1. I agree with you that RFID cannot be (presently) injected into somebody’s circulatory system. But Nano research is NOT far from this.

        I know an organic chemist who can do this.

        This is dumb nonsense. It’s like saying “We can’t yet make a car that’s 4″ long and travels at 100 mph on a drop of gasoline, but I know a guy that that’s driven one that’s 0.4″ long and goes faster with less power!”

        You may’ve seen a proof of concept demonstration (in other parlance, a parlor trick*) where someone detected a molecule intravenously or pooled in an internal cavity using a radio transmitter or receiver, (radioisotope tags have existed for decades) but in only the most fantastical of ways does that correlate to being able to broadly tag and differentiate people and individually monitor them in any sense of the word remotely for any period of time. If you’re really a retired surgeon, you should know naivete of counting such eggs before they’re hatched.

        1. *said as someone who’s engaged in such parlor tricks to impress Ph.D.s, M.D.s, and the like.

  34. Governments in China and Korea already are planning phone apps to identify and mark people who may be propagating the virus to others.

    This comes under the aegis of “contact identification.” Using a Microsoft (or other APP) that includes location tracing is very much a part of this.

    https://www.wired.com/story/phones-track-spread-covid19-good-idea/

    I am not at all certain that this is a “conspiracy theory.” It would make sense for Microsoft to help provide this option.

    Contact tracing is actually an old idea in pandemic evaluation. It has been around for years. But this is an enormous privacy issue. It is not a conspiracy matter. Fauci has already indicated that he would “consider it.”

    The entire premise of this article refuting Gates’ interest in this is a sham. He IS and was interested in it.

    Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
    Retired surgeon

    1. The entire premise of this article refuting Gates’ interest in this is a sham. He IS and was interested in it.

      This is much more sensible than your previous post.

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