Don't Believe the Hype About Georgia's Dramatic Drop in COVID-19 Cases
Plus: Justin Amash's quick reversal, Ronan Farrow's flaws, and more...

Misleading Georgia data. After ending stay-at-home orders earlier than most states, Georgia last week reported that—contrary to dire warnings—the state had seen a dramatic decrease in the number of new COVID-19 cases and deaths. Very quickly, national media like The Wall Street Journal were crowing over this "welcome trend."
But that "welcome trend" appears to be a mirage. Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp's office has since said that cases in the Peach State have not declined significantly and tracking data suggesting otherwise was misleading.
A big part of the problem: Some data for the week of May 2 were presented as coming chronologically before the week of April 26.
The state of Georgia made it look like its covid cases were going down ***by putting the dates out of order on its chart*** May 5 was followed by April 25, then back to May again, whatever made it look like a downslope. https://t.co/H8pSvY6rxn
— David Fahrenthold (@Fahrenthold) May 17, 2020
Another problem: Some data for early May are still missing.
That doesn't necessarily mean those dire predictions were right. Put in the right order, the figures presented last week by Georgia health officials still suggest that the state's COVID-19 cases have plateaued or even decreased slightly, notes the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. But these numbers are incomplete.
"Data collection lags and a quirk in the state's method of recording cases mean that counts for recent dates are often a fraction of what they turn out to be when the data is more complete," the paper points out.
Since the start of the pandemic, the Georgia Department of Public Health has repeatedly bungled information about the number of new COVID-19 cases and deaths. "Some of these errors could be forgiven as mistakes made during a chaotic time. But putting days in the wrong order, as the recently withdrawn chart did, makes no sense."
"I have a hard time understanding how this happens without it being deliberate," state Rep. Jasmine Clark (D–Lilburn), who has a PhD in microbiology and molecular genetics, told the paper. "Literally nowhere ever in any type of statistics would that be acceptable."
https://twitter.com/candicebroce/status/1259945971213111297
Elsewhere in the U.S., COVID-19 cases appear to be going down in some former hotspots while also rising in areas that had been doing OK.
This comes as state leaders have started easing and lifting lockdown orders, and as more people are doing less social distancing regardless of what authorities say. Because of lags in disease onset and data collection, the available numbers still largely reflect a period prior to the easing of restrictions.
Many areas that have been hard-hit continue to report mounting problems. "Dozens of deaths and thousands of new infections from the novel coronavirus were reported in the Washington region Saturday, even as some areas began welcoming droves of summertime visitors following the relaxation of quarantine restrictions in Virginia and Maryland," notes The Washington Post.
In Texas, some 1,800 new cases were reported on Saturday, bringing the total number of reported COVID-19 cases in the state to 47,000. "There were 33 additional deaths reported Saturday, bringing the total number of fatalities in the Lone Star State to 1,305," says CBS News.
In Georgia, "as of Monday morning, there were 37,910 confirmed cases," reports WJCL. The health department "is also reporting 1,612 coronavirus deaths and 6,864 hospitalizations." As of April 30th, Georgia had reported 26,260 confirmed cases of COVID-19 and 1,132 deaths from it.
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After much reflection, I've concluded that circumstances don't lend themselves to my success as a candidate for president this year, and therefore I will not be a candidate.
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A big part of the problem: Some data for the week of May 2 were presented as coming chronologically before the week of April 26.
Who during the lockdowns could keep the days straight???
Figures don’t lie, but liars figure.
That's the one thing I remember from my 6th grade teacher. Instructions for life!
Hello.
Georgia. Like I trust the official numbers anyway.
I mean, China. 14 new cases! Amirite?
Here in Quebec, if you get Da-Wuhan and you're in a family of three, they count it as three and not one.
they count it as three and not one.
I believe you, Rufus, but a link would be useful.
The Premier explained this in his daily yappings.
If he tests positive are his yappings trebled also?
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It’s hard to believe, but we might never know the true numbers on this virus. Thanks to the ChiComs, the WHO, and incompetent assholes like Neil Ferguson, the science was a fiasco from day one, and now it’s a 100% politicized fiasco.
It’s a scientific tragedy for anyone who believes in truth and knowledge.
Medicare putting their hand on the scale by bumping reimbursement rates for a COVID diagnosis had to have a titanic effect on the number of reported cases. In addition to all of the other factors you've all mentioned.
Lunacy for HHS to do that.
This whole fucking mess has been a silly, dangerous numbers game. If we didn't have scary sounding numbers (with absolutely no useful context) constantly broadcast at us, most people would never even have noticed that anything unusual was going on. Just like when there is a bad flu.
People notice the flu. They talk about it constantly, especially in a bad year ("We had 8 people die last week alone in our county!"). But they don't really change their behavior because they know it's going to happen every year and the consequences of trying to stop it would be worse than the illness. That all went out the window with Covid because the newness (and therefore, uncertainty around it) let politicians and the media whip up a panic. It does look like it will be worse than even a bad flu, once all is said and done. Hopefully, enough people will point out that Sweden proves the lockdowns weren't necessary and we'll be less panicky about it next time, regardless of how the politicians and media treat the next one.
I've never heard anyone talk about flu like that. But I believe you that it happens. I didn't mean that people actually have no idea that the flu exists. Just that it isn't something most spend any significant time thinking about if they don't have it.
I remember the Swine Flu Pandemic in a similar way. "Wow did you hear about those 6 kids who died in an outbreak at that summercamp? Tragic...so Tragic. And now I have to get a doctor's note before sending Jimmy off to Space Camp this year. So tragic!"
Maybe it's just the people I know. Talking about the flu numbers each year is a welcome break from constantly talking about the weather and gang violence "in town".
This whole fucking mess has been a silly, dangerous numbers game.
Global warming redux.
"It’s hard to believe, but we might never know the true numbers on this virus."
It's the easiest thing to believe in the world.
To believe otherwise is to be a fucking retard.
The same people who profess to believe in 'The Science™' also believe that there are 72 genders.
The Governor of Colorado admitted that they have overcounted COVID-19 deaths by almost 25%. Report on that Reason.
In Polis's defense, at least he's admitting it.
Georgia has the integrity of Chuckles Todd.
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Nice Sunday morning comment, FOE.
I have a hard time understanding how this happens without it being deliberate...
I'm going to wait for the subsequent bungled coverup before passing judgement.
This guy is suddenly all concerned about the numbers. Maybe someone should ask him about the states counting every death as a "COVID death" every time the person tests positive for the stuff regardless of the facts or circumstances? If we are going to start insisting on accurate numbers, then lets start doing that shall we?
http://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/why-covid-19-model-inspired-uks-lockdown-may-be-most-devastating-software-mistake-all
http://townhall.com/columnists/johnrlottjr/2020/05/16/the-us-is-dramatically-overcounting-coronavirus-deaths-n2568925
Try excess deaths compared to the average of the past few years.
https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps
In theory this takes into account both over- and under-reporting factors.
It doesn't allow for the wide natural variation in flu deaths affecting the "normal" averaged deaths.
Separate stats are available for flu deaths, and 2019-20 was not a bad season before Feb 1. Flu season normally subsides in March as well.
Some complain here about over counting, and some on other sites say we’re undercounting. The deviation from the norm removes bias in either direction to give an objective value. It’s more objective than any other stat you can find.
Excess deaths is meaningless in short time periods
Over the course of several months it is significant.
If you notice, the last name is "(D)".
These incomplete, inaccurate, and inconsistent numbers are totally different from the numbers used for global climate warming change, and from the gun violence numbers.
The only thing we know for sure about C19 numbers is that they cannot be accurate. The testing, whichever one is used has both false positives and false negatives. There is a financial incentive for over reporting, and political motives for over AND under reporting.
So we should just look at it like every other disease ever, and get rid of the statists and go with telling people to read up on safer practices and use their own discretion.
Because that is what is going to happen anyway, starting this week.
Sorry Libertarians, I was fine to represent you but then I met you.
The worst thing about the Libertarian Party is that it is full of Libertarians.
What about autistics and hermits?
Covid-19 vaccine developed by cigarette maker British American Tobacco
Smoke em if ya got em.
Whatever happened to the stories that nicotine might be helpful treatment for the 'Rona?
Those stories are true. It appears if you smoke you have less of a chance of getting it. It is worse if you do, but for some reason nicotine seems to fight the stuff off.
Nicotine uses the same receptor as ChiRona - they're competitors for entry into each cell
Cite?
I heard it from someone and don't care enough to look it up.
Feel free to check for yourself.
counts.
But that is because no one ever goes near a smoker - - - - - - - - - -
anti-social distancing
Smokers clump together, though.
I have a very good friend who has Crone's disease and his doctor recommended smoking to ease symptoms. It seems to suppress an overactive immune response which is also the principal cause of respiratory failure due to COVID.
Recommended smoking? Really?
Nicotine patches are effective and substantially safer.
Yeah, but smoking makes you look cool.
It worked.
You could vape too.
There appears to be some anecdotal truth to this. My mother has the CCP Flu. She's in her 70s, diabetic, but otherwise in excellent health. She maintains a healthy diet and weight and is physically active. She's isolating with my father, who is also in his 70's, has had cancer 3 times, has hypertension, hasn't had a glass of water without whiskey in it since 2010, doesn't walk farther than the kitchen on a daily basis, and had a stroke last year. He also smokes. They've been holed up together for going on two weeks, and he has yet to have even a sniffle. This is not data, of course, but it's interesting to observe in light of the stories about nicotine preventing Wu Flu.
Elsewhere in the U.S., COVID-19 cases appear to be going down in some former hotspots while also rising in areas that had been doing OK.
The solution to stopping the rise of new cases reported? Halt the recent expansion in testing!
It continues to amaze me how few people don't seem to get that if you do more testing, the numbers of confirmed cases are going to increase.
Word
They don't care, they're totalitarian leftists.
They need to be put down
Helicopter joke go here.
You mfers are evil.
You cry a lot.
For referencing a meme?
They get it. They don't care.
Exactly. And most of these people are at home supposed to be quarantining. But the masses hear 'more cases' and they think its automatically a death sentence.
Best measure has always been deaths not cases. And there are many more aysmtomatic cases than those reported. Deaths are always reported. The only way they can juke those stats is by attributing it to Covid when they died of something else but just happened to have Covid. Those that are "undercounted" because they died alone at home get reported sooner or later.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/gm1opb/oc_covid19_daily_tests_vs_7day_rolling_positive/
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Make it rain.
They just have to sanitize the pole between strippers.
Strip clubs are open in my city. And yes, that is the process.
Glad to hear it.
I was a floorlayer over the summers during university, and we had to retile the dance floor at a dive strip joint once.
That involved removing the stripper poles which looked like someone had blown their nose on them.
Thanks for that.
thank you for that wonderful image.
Hand job to pole dance will do that.
not if they're related.
Los Angeles to shut off water, power of nonessential businesses that refuse to close amid coronavirus
https://www.foxnews.com/us/los-angeles-water-power-businesses-refuse-close-coronavirus
Governor Inslee lays out statewide contact tracing plan for COVID-19
https://lynnwoodtimes.com/2020/05/12/governor-inslee-lays-out-statewide-contact-tracing-plan-for-covid-19/
Therefore, those individuals that refuse to cooperate with contact tracers and/or refuse testing, those individuals will not be allowed to leave their homes to purchase basic necessities such as groceries and/or prescriptions. Those persons will need to make arrangements through friends, family, or a state provided “family support personnel.”
Or sent to support camps.
Shit getting real.
Start your woodchippers.
Fuck, I'm going to need a bigger chipper. Can barely fit a forearm in mine.
Guillotine quicker and cleaner.
Bullets and rope also work
I've said it before and I'll say it again, ropes are reusable. Go green XD
So is piano wire.
I've been mapping out the lampposts in my neighborhood.
Reason is already consulting their lawyers because of this thread.
So my neighbor comes up with it and I have had glancing contract with him and now I can't leave my house? Bullshit. Moreover, anyone who thinks the testing will be in any way quickly or efficiently or accurately done at that scale is fooling themselves in the extreme.
Here is how this would work; the ques to be tested would be endless and it would leave hundreds of thousands of people trapped in administrative limbo unable to legally leave their homes but also unable to prove their health.
"BWAHAHAHAHAAA!!"
Worse part of it?
That piece of shit is condemning others to get it by forcing someone in the same house with others. Sorta like, I dunno, pieces of shits like Cuomo and others who sent people infected back to old folks homes?
We didn't learn from the plague. Officials would force them in quarantine all but ensuring others in the same house would get it.
Looks here! History is repeating itself because we have degenerate, ignorant pieces of shits ruling us while giving medical bureaucrats waaaayyyyy too much time at the table.
A doctor should make his spiel, take a sip of the wine and get off the table.
It's ok though....ORANGE MAN BAD!
Grandpa has a million comorbidities and is a dead man walking if he gets it. His daughter who lives with him tests positive. She is now locked in the house with him ensuring he gets it if he hasn't already.
Yeah, that makes sense. This is completely sick and depraved shit. I am as optimistic as anyone. But even I am starting to get a bit scared of these people. This is full on totalitarian madness.
On the flip side, yanking the COVID-positive patient out of the house at gunpoint, as that idiot Ventura County health director was advocating, a week or so ago, isn't great either.
Let it burn through the population, and try to keep the elderly away from it. All you can do without making things a whole lot worse.
God Damn China for their filth in releasing this fucking bug.
And may God damn the governors who put WuFlu patients into nursing homes...
Oh, but they had good intentions. It is Trump that wants to kill people.
You leave it up to the people involved. What is the right thing to do is totally dependent on the circumstances and a decision that only the people involved have any moral authority to make.
The first felony is by far the toughest...
It's bullshit and it's pointless. We are so far beyond the stage where containment is even a remotely plausible thing. Get over it, people. We are going to live with this thing.
You are correct Zeb. These sorts of methods work if you are talking about something STDs that people can't get passively or if the outbreak has just started and you are dealing with a small number of people. But, they are never going to work with a virus this contagious and this widespread in society. It is absolutely absurd to think they will.
More BS are announcements that biz can resume with 25% of employees allowed to return (some tyrants allow 50% to return). Did they pick those one-size-fits-all numbers for the entire state off one of those stripper poles?
Once again, it's the class/political divide thing. Rich progressives thinking they can live forever using their amazing brainpower and virtue signalling. Poor conservatives and sane Democrats know that hardships are inevitable and the former are being delusional assholes.
Rich progressives thinking they can live forever using their amazing brainpower and virtue signalling.
Not to mention the power of Fully Automated Gay Space Communism.
It is the lack of religion. Very few people if any really have the courage to face the abyss. If you think this life is all there is, you will make your personal survival the ultimate value in life at the expense of all principles as well as any quality of life. Any existence is better than nonexistence. So if you have a society of atheists, you end up with a society that is fanatically risk adverse. And you can't have a civilization where everyone views their own survival and avoidance of risk as being the greatest value in life.
People always wonder why every civilization in history had some kind of religion and concept of an afterlife. I think part of the answer is that any civilization that didn't have that and its people believed in the sort of crude materialism that secular atheists of today believe, didn't survive long enough to be called a civilization.
No. Religion developed when Man figured out we were certain to die. Belief in an afterlife helps people cope with their dread of death, or welcome the access to 72 virgins. Atheists like me tend to have a more realistic view that sacrificing for ‘the common good’ is usually a fool’s errand.
Any existence is better than nonexistence.
Which is kind of weird assumption. How can something be bad or undesirable when it isn't even a thing?
I've never been religious (despite growing up going to church), but I kind of agree. For whatever reason, I have never had a problem with the abyss. Of course I care about my own survival, everyone does. But life involves risk if you want it to be interesting. And I do care about other people and the future even if I'm not going to be around.
They gonna weld steel bars over the doors? Fucking commies.
Contact tracers will not ask for the following information: immigration status, social security number, financial info or marital status.
So they will ask for *gender*? Those MONSTERS!
Fuck them. If this becomes the norm and I came up with this stuff, I would refuse to give them any information. Fuck them. I am not going to condemn a bunch of people to being locked in their houses for weeks because I ratted them out to the government. I would refuse to give them any information whatsoever. Let them lock me up. Better that than participating in this.
The funny thing - the lockup would probably be a shorter duration than the quarantine.
There'd be compassionate release from it, at least.
"All those in confinement due to refusal to cooperate with contract tracing, please line up in front of this wall while we process your 'compassionate' release."
Appeal to the Supreme Soviet, compassionate release protocol: it all ends up the same in the end with Utopians.
Well, sir, first I went to a public teachers rally, then I helped the Biden campaign, and finally shared a single glass of wine with the governor. Any other questions?
Wow. That's the nicest euphemism for "stool pigeon" I've ever seen.
It is not the Stasi it is a "support person".
Kinder, gentler Gestapo.
It's fucken crazy and pointless is what it is.
And yeh. It's like all those Poles who snitched on Jews to the Germans in the East.
Sorry. You do that shit even in the service of government under the false premise of the 'greater good' YOU are the same sort of person who would have bought the 'kill all the Jews' bit.
Because you're mindless and believe you're actually 'saving lives'.
You're SHEEP. Sheep to be moulded by dictators.
This Inslee guy is pure EVIL. And we need to call it as such just like we need to call China out for what they are: Cheating, lying, degenerated commie thieves.
they're really going full fascist, aren't they? Inslee does know that pretty much the entire southern and eastern half of the state is gonna tell him to go fuck himself right? Whoever had the bright idea down in LA should probably stay away from windows, enforcing that sounds like a good way to get Kennedy'd by Roof Koreans. I definitely wouldn't like to be anyone working at the Utilities companies, if you have people willing to shoot cashiers over meat rationing and security guards over wearing a mask, you can bet there'll be someone willing to kill to feed his/her family.
“And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."
Beautiful.
Seems the easy answer to this is, if you have a smartphone, keep it at home when you leave the house (people managed to function on their daily errands for decades without using them, you can too), and if you see a number you don't know, let it go to voice mail.
Funny how the government seems determined to go full "Mark of the Beast" these days.
Get a burner for those errands.
Spokane county sheriff won’t enforce Inslee’s bullshit. Restaurants and other businesses are opening against Inslee’s decrees.
Wow.
Pritzker Order Reportedly Authorizes New Punishment for Businesses Violating Restrictions
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/pritzker-order-reportedly-authorizes-new-punishment-for-businesses-violating-restrictions/2273474/
According to multiple reports, Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker’s administration filed an emergency rule Friday that could potentially allow for businesses who open in defiance of the state’s stay-at-home order to be charged with a Class A misdemeanor.
The rule, which was published by multiple outlets including WTTW in Chicago and The Center Square, would codify opening a business in violation of the stay-at-home order as a violation of Illinois Department of Public Health regulations, according to the reports.
A Class A misdemeanor can be punishable by a fine of $75 to $2,500, according to Illinois state law.
gotta get the money for those pensions somehow. Fucking bandits.
The bourgeoisie don't need new clothes to stay at home
A gym owner has opened in New Jersey. Only members allowed in, 6 feet between entrants, temp check at the door, masks.
The police have closed off the parking lot and the SWAT team is staging to to invade them.
Fuck totalitarian scum like ENB
Gonna fight with all those gym rats jacked up on steroids?
Guns don't care about your... "guns"
Actually, both sides're jacked on roids.
Been following this on Fox. Bellmawr is about 15 miles from me, and I grew up a few miles from there. Where have you heard they've closed off the parking lot? Creek Road state police barracks is about 2 miles from there. That's where they'd stage up.
It was mentioned by a reporter on the scene about the parking lot being closed off and the SWAT team prepping
All the local stations are running their damn talk shows now, rather than covering this.
I'm not seeing any sort of livestream covering this. The last stories seem to have been filed a couple of hours ago. Do you have a link?
something i've noticed, the media doesn't seem to really cover any "incidents" where the cops are doing this, there was minimal coverage at the beginning of the month of the cops/feds raiding a bunch of lockdown protesters after they attended a protest in Colorado because they had guns, one guy was raided beforehand because they found out he was making pipebombs. I think there was one article from a local paper and that was it, I heard about it from word of mouth.
They can spy on us via our computers and phones and use that to crush anyone trying to get organized, and then they stop info about unrest from popping up because if people saw others resisting, more would join.
And the totalitarian submissives are already posting reviews online:
This gym is breaking the rules of keeping the gym locked. With your own self proclaimed rights comes shared responsibilities. So please don’t invoke the 1st amendment unless you know what it means. You have a duty to your community, this is not all about opening a gym for the sake of helping people. There is a duty to also protect others. Whatever guideline is used while opened, it should start on June 1st not now. I used to come to this gym long ago, when it became from retro fitness to this. So yes I have seen the changes. Good gym but not good and wise to reopen now. It’s about not just rights but shared responsibilities. If we don’t understand that, then we are being selfish.
I'm at the point where I favor social distancing for these people - permanent, and 6 feet deep
It’s about not just rights but shared responsibilities. If we don’t understand that, then we are being selfish.
You know who else believed it was selfish to breathe public air?
I'm gonna keep to myself what I think should be done with people like this.
You know Amazon keeps a count of how many woodchippers you have ordered, right?
It looks to me like these assholes are going to make it impossible to have public gyms or swimming pools or skating rinks or anything other common place to exercise. Yeah, that should do wonders for the nations health and save lots of lives as people get fat and die of all the problems that come with lack of exercise.
Just a few days ago, my wife and I were driving past a gym where we used to be members. It's located across the street from a Target here in South Jersey. The Target parking lot was bustling. The gym was abandoned. I commented that there's no reason why gyms couldn't operate under the same social-distancing guidelines as every other business: entrance to members only, by appointment only, limited number of people in the building at any given time. Hell, you could temperatures at the door and masks (as much as that would suck) if you felt so inclined. It's good to see I wasn't the only one with this idea.
The fact that gyms are banned as nonessential while liquor stores and marijuana shops are allowed to stay open is unconscionable.
There is no reason why gyms can't operate. Just hand out Clorox wipes and be strict about cleaning the equipment.
My point has been: Gyms are filthy in the best of times, and an obvious contagion point.
Who is going to a gym if they're carrying extra risk factors?
No one in their right mind. But God forbid these idiots ever accept that different people have different risk profiles. Nope, everyone must act like they are old, fat, and have severe asthma.
"Who is going to a gym if they’re carrying extra risk factors?"
Those at risk would have less risk by staying away.
But lefties think along the lines of "if one person can't go then nobody can go". Fuck that in all of its manifestations
Shit, those wipes are getting pretty hard to find these days. I think Clorox actually released a report saying they probably won't be able to get the supply chain back up to speed until later this summer because the demand is so astronomical.
Nobody needs to lift more than one pint at a time.
I've gained 10 freakin pounds during this nonsense. Probably've cut several years off my lifespan.
"If we don’t understand that, then we are being selfish."
It's selfish for you to expect everyone to slit their throat because you're afraid of getting sick. Hide yourself if you're afraid. Let others stay healthy by getting their workout in
Who the hell opens up a gym to "help people"? Don't members pay money for those services? All this bloviating about "duty" and "responsibility" is ultimately nothing but self serving virtue signaling. Closing down businesses has done nothing to lessen the Covid outbreaks. If officials really cared about results they'd try to analyze where places have been successful at stemming the infections and deaths and what measures contributed to that success. But they measure success not by results but by nice intentions. And worst of all, pay no price for their mistakes.
Tweeted From Fox 29 Philly -
Update:Just now a local Bellmawr Police Lieutenant walked up to front door& owner of Atilis Gym&said “You’re all in violation of Governor’s executive order. That being said stay safe&have a nice day.” And walked away&crowd of supporters let out a loud cheer
@FOX29philly
A handful of Bellmawr police are in the lot - no state troopers.
There's a cool park in Hammonton where we enjoy walking our dog and cat. It's been closed for two months or so now. A few weeks ago, I walked up to the cop parked at the trailhead and told him we wanted to get in. He told me he wouldn't fuck with us.
In my experience, South Jersey cops are cool as hell, even in shitholes like Camden. On the whole, they're nothing like the pigs I've had to deal with in supposedly "nice" places like Minnesota or Wisconsin.
I've dealt with Camden cops down on the waterfront, by the concert venues. Decent enough unless you're being an asshole.
When I was on jury duty, they were a little gruff, but the crowds at City Hall aren't exactly pleasant. For the Independence Day fireworks display on the waterfront, they were as pleasant as could be.
Sorry, I meant at the county courthouse.
Another tweet from Fox 29
Just In: Letter from lawyer of NOW OPEN Atilis Gym in Bellmawr to
@GovMurphy
“My clients have a fundamental property interest in conducting business activities that are protected by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.”
@FOX29philly
Just on ABC 6 News - Camden County DA posted a notice at the gym threatening to criminally prosecute customers at businesses opened in defiance of the order.
That would make it a taking, no?
Tortious interference? The constitution does have something to say about contracts.
The reminds me of another illustrious DA in Camden County's history, Sam Asbell
(If you're old enough and live in South Jersey, you probably remember this guy)
COVID shut-ins BTFO.
An experimental Covid-19 vaccine developed by cigarette maker British American Tobacco Plc is poised to begin testing in humans...
I'm waiting for the smooth, mentholated flavour.
Wouldn't it be so, so terribly sweet if they released it in the form of a vape cartridge?
A lot of data is backdated due to reporting delays. That's certainly true in Ohio.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6918e3.htm?s_cid=mm6918e3_w#T2_down
COVID-19 cases among U.S. workers in 115 meat and poultry processing facilities were reported by 19 states. Among approximately 130,000 workers at these facilities, 4,913 cases and 20 deaths occurred.
https://investigatemidwest.org/2020/04/16/tracking-covid-19s-impact-on-meatpacking-workers-and-industry/
As of May 16, there have been at least 14,800 reported positive cases tied to meatpacking facilities in at least 186 plants in 31 states, and at least 55 reported worker deaths at 30 plants in 18 states.
Both stats point to a 0.4% death rate, which is rather high for what's supposedly a young-ish population. Thoughts?
Depends on when they started testing - cases w/o symptoms may have been missed.
Considering the co-morbidity rate of the people who've died from this, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the workers who have died had some underlying health issues already, like asthma or diabetes.
Also, apparently it's taken two months or more, but cases are starting to pop up in Wal-Marts/grocery stores, too.
At some point, it's going to sink in to the doomers that there's literally nothing they can do to shield themselves from this. They're going to catch it eventually, and they're going to have to figure out how to muddle through until they get better.
Who gets to define what's racist?
Whoever shouts the loudest, same as anything.
"Racist is as racist does."
I graduated from Centennial High in Compton, south of LA. There were 12 other white guys in the graduating class. If you had met me during my 8th grade year, you would have been excused for thinking my name was 'Chuck Ofay.' I never heard 'honkie' until near my graduating year.
Residents of the area will go on and on about Koreans and Mexicans. It is apparently a part of the human condition to form groups and exclude others, regardless of race.
Isn't Compton mostly Hispanic now? I thought I read somewhere about the gangs basically ethnically cleansing their black rivals out of the neighborhood.
The white guys do, just like everything else.
Duh the splc gets to decide, and if you disagree with them then you are a bitter clinger and your betters will ram our culture down your neck
I read that as "Duh the spic gets to decide"
Free trade, dammit
Chinese-Made Infant Flesh Capsules Seized in S. Korea
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/chinese-made-infant-flesh-capsules-seized-korea/story?id=16296176
May 7, 2012— -- The dried flesh of dead infants appears to be the not-so-secret ingredient in a health supplement that is reportedly being smuggled out of China.
The performance-enhancement pills, touted for increasing vitality and sex drive, have been found in the luggage of tourists and in international mail, according to South Korean authorities.
They said they had confiscated nearly 17,500 of the human flesh capsules since last August, according to a report in the Wall Street Journal.
What’s the problem? We’re they tainted with melamine or something?
I think eating our own dead might be a problem. Just saying.
Probably from aborted fetuses, so not human in any meaningful way I suppose.
Just a bunch of clumps of cells, not even worthy of being called tissue.
the human flesh capsules
Nice band name; but perhaps too similar to Meat Puppets.
too high to die.
Jesus fucking christ, this is sickening. I'm beginning to think the Japanese had the right idea as to how to handle the Chinese problem, they are literally today's Nazis, complete with crimes against nature and humanity.
Soylent Green was meant to be a horror movie, not a business plan.
"Yes, but what about the Crusades?"
/fedora-tipping progressive
Have you seen the price for 0.45kg of them? Of course they were smuggling them out!
I didn't realize it was being presented as acceptable.
Justin Amash won't seek Libertarian Party nomination.
Big Vermin got to him.
A tough act to follow.
His daughter's wedding was threatened by stampeding ponies!
Let Vermin debate!
https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/baylor-u-professor-m-d-carol-baker-lets-just-get-rid-of-all-the-whites-in-the-united-states
“The fight, the battle is being fought — one family, one physician, one health center. That’s why we’re doing as well as we are.
We’re talking about the minority [of vaccine refusers], and strategies against the minority. So I have the solution: Every study published in the last five years, you look at vaccine refusers, I’m not talking about people we can talk them into coming to terms, but refusers. (54:28 mark) Let’s just get rid of all the whites in the United States,
Guess who wants to get vaccinated the most in Houston? Immigrants!
Shouldn't professors at Christian universities be...I don't know...Christian?
That's where you usually find the wokest.
Especially in historically Evangelical colleges, where they'll fall all over themselves trying to prove they're not like the media's stereotype by being vociferously 'tolerant' of everything but Christianity.
Interesting that she complains about educated whites being more likely to refuse vaccinations, when it's also educated whites like herself who are far more likely to exhibit racial guilt and self-hatred.
Reading her full remarks at your cite, I think she was just very inarticulate in expressing the rhetorical point she was trying to make----that educated, well to do white people are the vast majority of vaccination refuseniks----and not that she really wanted all of the whites to be thrown out of Houston.
FWIW, it looks like the Dr lives in a modest suburban neighborhood in Bellaire, solidly white and Asian. I'd have thought she would have lived closer to the Med. Center.
Basically she is a nut. She has decided that her sacred cow, vaccination, is the value that trumps all over values such that every means no matter how extreme is justified in ensuring every child is vaccinated. It never occurs to her that there might be larger issues at play here or that the precedent she would like to set would be used by other people to do horrible things in the name of the common good. Nope, she thinks her and her cause are special and there are no dangers to what she is advocating. Worse, she is incapable of understanding the harm that occurs by forcing people to do things against their will. She is utterly unable to understand anyone else's perspective.
That woman is not just a fool, though she clearly is that. She is a monster. She is totally narcissistic and incapable of any empathy or compassion for other human beings. But like so many other monsters she rationalizes that lack of compassion and empathy as her acting for other people's own good. That broad should scare the hell out of you.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/trump-approval-at-gallup-highest-better-than-obama-bush
Trump's approval according to Gallup highest of his time in office and higher than Obama or Bush II at this time in their presidency.
Even if you don't like Trump, there is a serious upside to this. If the Democrats figure out that the pandemic and the lock down nonsense is helping Trump, they will drop it faster than 2nd period French. Suddenly, the flu won't matter and anyone who says it does will be a racist. And that sounds good to me.
I think people are done with the lockdown at this point. Really really done. Social media was never a true reflection of how people actually felt, they just didn't want to be shamed. But people are going to do what they want to do and live their lives the way they've always done it. This fucking regressive new normal soviet style thinking was always a farcical fantasy to go on as long as it did.
I hope you are right. This lunacy has to stop.
This on social media. About two weeks into this I had to drop reading anything on Facebook (which I only keep an account on due to it being the primary messaging app for some of our kid-related activities) because I felt like the only skeptic during the Salem witch trials. I knew everyone was acting hysterically, but I didn't want the hassle the Karen's on my feed would give me if I started pointing it out.
I have several friends who I know are otherwise thoughtful and reasonable people who have completely fallen for this madness. It is both depressing and terrifying how easily people will fall into this stuff. It takes advantage of their desire to do good and be a part of a larger struggle. You have to be a real jerk contrarian, which I generally am much to my determent usually, to resist it.
It's not being a jerk to point out that practically everything the Karen Brigade advocates for is causing more harm than good at this point.
Facebook brings out the worst in people. I quit a few years ago and never looked back
The story is getting out.
Coding that led to lockdown was 'totally unreliable' and a 'buggy mess', say experts
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2020/05/16/coding-led-lockdown-totally-unreliable-buggy-mess-say-experts/
Many have claimed that it is almost impossible to reproduce the same results from the same data, using the same code. Scientists from the University of Edinburgh reported such an issue, saying they got different results when they used different machines, and even in some cases, when they used the same machines.
“There appears to be a bug in either the creation or re-use of the network file. If we attempt two completely identical runs, only varying in that the second should use the network file produced by the first, the results are quite different,” the Edinburgh researchers wrote on the Github file.
After a discussion with one of the Github developers, a fix was later provided. This is said to be one of a number of bugs discovered within the system. The Github developers explained this by saying that the model is “stochastic”, and that “multiple runs with different seeds should be undertaken to see average behaviour”.
However, it has prompted questions from specialists, who say “models must be capable of passing the basic scientific test of producing the same results given the same initial set of parameters...otherwise, there is simply no way of knowing whether they will be reliable.”
Reliable as hell. You just run it and run it until it says what you want.
Then you go screw some other dudes wife.
Wouldnt doing the same thing and expecting different results be insanity? A model created by science is infallible and therefore couldnt be insane. No need to see if you can replicate results.
Ok, so the problem is with the random number generator. They modeled blackjack, and ran the simulator. If you double down with a dealer's 6 showing, you'll lose! Of course, with a different random number, something else happens.
As the coders recommend in the article, you have to run the model many times to identify probabilities of what happened.
Most models that rely on this type of monte-carlo simulation have the "run many times and output probabilities" built into it.
There were bugs in many things, including the random number generator. Random inputs in, range of results out.
That doesn't change the fact that if you give the code the same inputs, as a non-random tests, you need to get the same output. They are lying and calling a bug a feature.
They're incompetent.
Even with a stochastic model, you build in the capability to start with the same random seed, to so reproduce the same result. Without such capability, you can't even unit test.
If you didn't build in the ability to reproduce, you're an amateur.
"If you didn’t build in the ability to reproduce, you’re an amateur."
Or really bad at getting consent - - - - - - - -
Consent? Amateur indeed
"Does this rag smell like chloroform to you?"
This is just wrong. If you have unrepeatable MonteCarlo system where you can't repeat given the same master seed, your simulation is broken.
MonteCarlo systems depend on an understanding of the input probabilities. This model presented seems to not care about that.,
https://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2020/05/wheres-fathers-america/
Man longs for a fantasy older America where everyone was a complete coward and willing to give up their way of life out of fear of maybe getting sick.
That was embarrassing to read.
Typical narcissist. Is it his duty to risk getting the flu so that everyone else can continue their way of life or is it everyone else' duty to give up their way of life so he doesn't risk getting the flu? That is really the entire question. He just begs it and assumes it is everyone else's duty to sacrifice so he can avoid taking a risk. He is like so many other people today, a moral narcissist who forever thinks "duty" consists of everyone else sacrificing for his principles and interests.
I highly doubt any of these people have really curbed their lifestyle at all. What they do is necessary, when other people do what they do it's a trogolodyte death cult. See, global warming proponents.
That is part of the allure of it. They get to break the rules because they are special and good people. Half of the attraction of it is being able to lecture everyone else while having the privilege of not living by the rules yourself.
This is what I've seen from the most pro-lockdown people I know. They ignore the rules themselves but judge everyone else for doing anything at all. People on my street who have openly ignored social distancing rules from day one turn to glare at my wife and I every time we leave the house. This has become so common now that she's started referring to it as the gauntlet of judgment. Of course, maybe our neighbors just hate us...
It sounds like you should be happy they hate you. They don't sound like the kind of people you want to like you.
That's how I feel about it. Our street is pretty evenly divided between busybodies and people who keep to themselves. I'm sure the other people in the latter group are getting the same treatment we are from the other half, but this just makes me even more solidly of the "minding my own business" camp.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/10/chilling-truth-decision-impose-lockdown-based-crude-mathematical/
The almost covert nature of the scientific debate within Sage, the opaque programming methods of the Imperial team, the unavailability of the code for testing and review at the point of decision, the untested assumptions built into the model, all leave us with a worrying question. Did we base one of the biggest peacetime policy decisions on crude mathematical guesswork?
https://www.city-journal.org/coronavirus-model-driven-decision-making
Ferguson and Imperial College’s refusal of all requests to examine taxpayer-funded code that supported one of the most significant peacetime decisions in British history is entirely contrary to the principles of open science—especially in the Internet age. The Web has created an unprecedented scientific commons, a marketplace of ideas in which Ferguson’s arguments sound only a little better than “the dog ate my homework.” Worst of all, however, Ferguson and Imperial College, through both their work and their haughtiness about it, have put the public at risk. Epidemiological modelling is a valuable tool for public health, and Covid-19 underscores the value of such models in decision-making. But the Imperial College model implementation lends credence to the worst fears of modelling skeptics—namely, that many models are no better than high-stakes gambles played on computers. This isn’t true: well-executed models can contribute to the objective, data-driven decision-making that we should expect from our leaders in a crisis. But leaders need to learn how to vet models and data.
leaders need to learn how to
vet models and datacode.FTFY
leaders need to learn how to
vet models and datacodedie.FTFY
Even if we suppose the Ferguson modeling was perfect in every way. Since when do we accept one test method as the basis for all decisions afterward. Never again I hope FFS.
After Repeated Failures, It’s Time To Permanently Dump Epidemic Models
https://issuesinsights.com/2020/04/18/after-repeated-failures-its-time-to-permanently-dump-epidemic-models/
Model defenders declare the plummets were based on the success of severe restrictions of civil liberties. “It just means we won,” declared an article in The Atlantic. Wrong. The bottom range of the models presumes the best-case scenario. If the low end is 100,000, that’s the low end.
If epidemic models were just haphazardly wrong, we would expect about half the time they would be too low. Instead, they’re almost universally vastly too high. This isn’t happenstance but intentional.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/05/15/we-could-open-up-again-and-forget-the-whole-thing/
Scientists are in a very strange situation. They now depend on government funding, which is a trend that has developed over the past 40 years. Before that, when you were a professor at a university, you had your salary and you had your freedom. Now, the university gives you a desk and access to the library. And then you have to ask for government money and write grant applications. If you are known to criticise the government, what does that do to your chance of getting funded? It creates a huge conflict of interest. The people who are speaking out in Germany and Switzerland are all independent of government money because they are retired.
I always find it hilarious that progressives seem to think that removing the profit motive from private markets magically eliminates bad incentives. If you only need to ask the government for money, you motives will be pure! No one in the government who doles out funds has their own incentives or would want anything in return.
Were they asleep for the last twenty five years? What do they think the emphasis on studying greenhouse gasses did to the market for scientific inquiry?
As the old jape goes, "You can't get a grant from NIH or the Smithsonian to study the sex life of squirrels. But you can get one to study how anthropogenic climate change affects the sex life of squirrels."
Science has been perverted by forced adherence to 'the one fact that is absolutely true, according to all right and correct members of the priesthood' for some time now. Funny that observers are just now noticing it.
Look what they did to the guy who called bullshit on the claims made about the benefits of a low fat diet. They called him a "tool of big meat" and ruined his career. The fact that he was right and the government was advocating for a diet that ended up getting people fat and killing a bunch of people made no difference.
Listen man, a high grain, low meat, low fat, diet is the ideal one.
Just take 12 multivitamins, and when you get hungry hate yourself for it instead of examining what you're eating.
I suspect Amash is backing out of the Libertarian Party nomination race for the same reason he is not running for reelection in his district, his sources tell him that he has no chance to win the nomination. Like it or not, success in politics depends on building coalitions, and Amash has spent these past two years burning his down.
How can you be such a fuckup as a politician, despite a track record of multiple terms in the House, that a fringe party like the Libertarians won't have anything to do with you? That's quite a fall.
I think polling showed that he was going to pull quite a few Arab/Palestinian/Iranian and otherwise D voters in Dearborn et al. More than he would've pulled from neverTrump R's anyway. Michigan was won by Trump by such a knife-edge margin that any loss of voters would be too many. And so Amash took a dive.
If Amash was a threat to pull R voters in Michigan, his entire campaign would have been magically bankrolled, and he'd be discussed with a few glowing puff pieces on CNN and the like.
He probably thought he was building new ones, but didn't understand the nature of his new 'friends' in the media and at the DNC.
I think C.S. Lewis can sum up what happened best:
“In fighting those who serve devils one always his this on one's side; their Masters hate them as much as they hate us.
The moment we disable the human pawns enough to make them useless to Hell, their own Masters finish the work for us. They break their tools.”
https://lockdownsceptics.org
The Mirror leads with the preprint I flagged up yesterday estimating that by the end of April 29% of the UK population may have already had the virus (29% of 66 million is ~19 million). If we assume that roughly 50,000 people in the UK will have died from COVID-19 by May 21st – allowing for the three-week lag time between infection and death – that gives an infection fatality rate (IFR) of ~0.076%, less than half the IFR of seasonal flu.
"I have a hard time understanding how this happens without it being deliberate," state Rep. Jasmine Clark (D–Lilburn), who has a PhD in microbiology and molecular genetics, told the paper. "Literally nowhere ever in any type of statistics would that be acceptable."
In *any* type?
Speaking of Dramatic Drops in data...
When you stop counting "died with Covid" and focus on "died due to Covid" you get things like a 20% drop in the death numbers.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/05/coronavirus-crisis-counting-covid-19-death-toll/?itm_campaign=headline-testing-coronavirus-crisis-counting-covid-19-death-toll&itm_medium=headline&itm_source=nationalreview&itm_content=How%20Many%20COVID-19%20Deaths%20Are%20There%3F&itm_term=How%20Many%20COVID-19%20Deaths%20Are%20There%3F
Wow, I used to be a CNA, and I didn't realize that. That's . . . horrifying is the best way I can think of to describe it. If half of nursing home residents are dead in five months or less, their families might as well have left them at home and let them die in familiar, comfortable settings surrounded by people who loved them, rather than forced them to rot away in the hellholes that most nursing homes have become.
that median length of stay for OLDER adults in nursing homes...
just for context:
Length of stay for older adults residing in nursing homes ...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20738438
Median and mean length of stay before death were 5 months (interquartile range 1-20) and 13.7 ± 18.4 months, respectively. Fifty-three percent died within 6 months of placement.
What is the median nursing home stay?
Average Stay. The average stay for nursing home residents is 892 days. This comes out to around two and a half years. Naturally, everyone’s experience will be different, and some people could be at a center for much longer than that. In fact, 10 percent of individuals who go to nursing homes end up living there for over five years.
the general point remains however.. if my 91+ y/o mother needed that kind of attention it would be more humane for one of her kids to look after her for the avg.. 6 months
"If half of nursing home residents are dead in five months or less, their families might as well have left them at home and let them die in familiar, comfortable settings surrounded by people who loved them"
How long did you actually work in a nursing home as a CNA? Do you know that most of those people did not have the choice of being 'left at home' because they didn't go from their own home straight into the nursing home? Most of them went to the hospital first. And then ended up in a nursing home because they needed care that could not (or would not) be provided at home.
I'm all for people staying and dying at home, but often that is simply not an option, and for very good reasons.
The real sad one is hospice care - over a quarter of those entering hospice care do not last two weeks. The problem not being that they are dying any sooner than they otherwise would, more the problem being that they should have been enrolled sooner and might have gotten more benefit out of their limited time left.
"if my 91+ y/o mother needed that kind of attention it would be more humane for one of her kids to look after her for the avg.. 6 months"
Not humane for that one person providing 24/7 care.
And yet we were supposed to believe the hype about two million people dying from this virus?
CNN, the only honest media entity left... buries its own expensive data polling because they didn't like information contained within...
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/05/cnn-buries-its-own-poll-results-on-trumps-favorability-guess-why/
China targets GOP hawks, US firms, states over lawsuits
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1188309.shtml
China is extremely dissatisfied with the abuse of litigation by the US against China over the COVID-19 epidemic, and is considering punitive countermeasures against US individuals, entities and state officials, such as Missouri's attorney general Eric Schmitt, who filed a lawsuit against China, seeking compensation for the coronavirus pandemic, sources close to the matter told the Global Times exclusively. At least four US Congress members, including Josh Hawley and Tom Cotton, and two entities will be put on China's sanctions list, analysts said.
FREE TRADE, we must not respond!!!
At the very absolute minimum of US responses should be removing the postage subsidy on mail to/from China.
We can debate further measures, like yanking their MFN status. Or just sending them an itemized bill, and utilizing tariffs as self-help in compensation for damages.
I still see this ending in blood in the Western Pacific. As much as that would be a disaster for everyone involved.
"This comes as state leaders have started easing and lifting lockdown orders, and as more people are doing less social distancing regardless of what authorities say."
It's great to see average people and the businesses that cater to them take the opinions of journalists, politicians, and experts into consideration--and ignore them when they decide their preferences for other things override their preferences for safety. In fact, seeing average people and the businesses that cater to them willfully break the law is starting to renew my faith in humanity.
Exhibit 1:
"It gets pretty confrontational. People are getting in our faces and are really angry with our managers and employees when it’s not our rule,” said Shaunte Wisch-Thompson, who works at a Kroger in Streator, Ill., a small town about 100 miles southwest of Chicago.
An executive order by Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker mandates masks in public when people can’t maintain distance from one another. Ms. Wisch-Thompson said one man refused her request that he don a mask, saying he didn’t vote for the governor. She said she tries to reason with shoppers but doesn’t force the issue. “It’s not my job to enforce masks—I’m not a manager.”
"Stores Stress Over How to Handle a Customer Who Won’t Wear a Mask"
----WSJ
https://www.wsj.com/articles/stores-stress-over-how-to-handle-a-customer-who-wont-wear-a-mask-11589621403?
The guy saying that he didn't vote for the governor so he shouldn't have to wear a mask--that's beautiful. Our rights exist regardless of whom won a popularity contest or they don't really exist at all.
If the store wants to call the police and have their customers arrested for trespassing, of course, they should be free to do so. If other customers refuse to shop in a store that doesn't call the police when people refuse to wear a mask, they should be free to shop elsewhere. The point of that article is that a number of stores all over the country, including some of the big chains, are doing their patriotic duty and willfully breaking the law.
Makes me tear up like when they play taps at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.
Menards has, apparently, a corporate policy that everyone wears masks. Nothing to do with complying with local rules, just their own dumb decision. One of a few stupid things they have done through this, and which has me boycotting them for now at least- I'm not sure if I will go back once this is all over. And I spend a TON of money there. Anyway, I decided to test it out a couple weeks ago, and damned if their gatekeeper lackey didn't stop me and tell me I needed to wear a mask. I told him I wasn't going to, and away we went on our little confrontation. It lasted for several minutes, and things got pretty heated- I didn't really want to do that, it isn't my nature, but unfortunately I feel that SOMEONE needs to push back hard and let these businesses know that all their customers aren't on their knees, grateful that they are "keeping them safe." Hopefully if their enforcers get enough resistance and headache from people who disagree, they will start saying fuck it, it's not worth it for 12 bucks an hour. And whoever is managing these places realizes that it's an untenable policy. Of course, they probably did a nice little business selling junky disposable masks at the service counter for a buck a piece, at least for a while until most of their customers realized they would need to bring one.
There is nothing stupid about this at all. If an employee gets sick and dies, a company will be sued into oblivion if it cannot point to CDC recommendations and say "Look, we did everything we could".
I get that the mask hysteria is nuts, but in an age of class action suits, these companies have a choice between doing the right thing and doing the smart thing.
Pretty much that.
I thought the CDC was against wearing masks.
That was then, this is now.
You missed the magic event where ineffective cloth masks became not only effective, but worthy of mandate, because politics.
The cutesy crafty homemade imitation surgical masks, the Jesse James bandannas, the Home Depot sanding dust masks, all do NOTHING to stop C19.
(especially when worn around the neck, or only covering the mouth, or being removed and put back on continually throughout the day)
Wrong. Masks are about 20% effective at preventing getting infected, and 70% effective from spreading it to others. Masks on both raises the effectiveness to about 90%.
Requiring masks protects the store from liability and the employees from getting sick and increasing absenteeism, hurting the store.
Would you want a doctor to remove your appendix without wearing a mask?
The Republican Senate is trying to pass a bill that would make companies immune from COVID-19 lawsuits. I think there is a good argument for that in a lot of cases. In other cases, lawsuits really should bankrupt an industry.
The behavior of the cruise lines is atrocious. They took on passengers when they knew there some among them who were infected, incubated those infections on a cruise ship--and then let infected passengers mingle with the locals from port to port?!
In a perfect world, they should go bankrupt, the proceeds from selling their ships and other assets out of bankruptcy court should go to the people they infected, and whomever buys their assets out of bankruptcy court should take that as a lesson on how to deal with pandemics in the future.
That isn't like people who go shopping at all. If you go shopping, you willingly assume the risk of getting infected by someone--COVID-19 or any other communicable disease.
Market forces are people making choices, and if you choose not to shop there because they treat you like that, then you're exercising your right as a consumer.
Nothing wrong with that at all.
People, politicians, and companies are rediscovering freedom of assembly and freedom of association, and if you exercise your right to not associate with companies that treat you like that, that is and should be your right--regardless of their liability exposure.
No doubt, as a libertarian I don't dispute their right at all to make whatever stupid policies they want, and it is my right to vote with my wallet. And yes, I understand the liability argument, and I get that the "this is different!" hysteria around WuFlu might make any legal precedent go down the drain but... number one, I think that history shows it is very difficult to make a case that you acquired a widespread communicable disease from a specific location and thus hold them liable for the outcome of that. Number two, I am not specifically aware of any other stores in the area that have this requirement (again, we are not a "masks required" state- in fact, in WI as a state, we are basically free to do whatever now including operate completely as normal), so if not requiring masks was a legal death sentence, I would expect everyone to jump on board. I guess just like I expect individuals to step up and "fight the good fight" on this stuff and resist, I would also like to see businesses do the same. Yes, run the risk of some level of increased risk of legal action, but sometimes you need to take a stand and fight it in court and help set the precedent for next time. Because if you, and every other business, just roll over for this, you are going to have to go along with dumber and dumber shit all the time.
It's most disappointing that Menards, a privately owned, relatively local chain that caters to a presumably manly, DIY type clientele, does this shit. I would expect it from Walmart or even Home Depot. But John Menard pretty much made his name by doing things his own way and telling the "right people" to sick it up their ass if they don't like it, whether they are the state DNR or the Indy 500 establishment when he had his race team- I admired that, and therefore liked supporting his business because of it.
And lastly, I'm pissed because, before the mask shit started, they came up with this policy that no one under 16 can enter the store. Which makes no sense and flies in the face of everything we have known about the virus since very early on (a much more logical policy would be NO ONE OVER 60!). So I emailed them just to register my disapproval because again, they don't know anyone disagrees if you don't say something, and the response I got back was ridiculous and included statement "Why would you want to put your children at risk? Please explain." Needless to say, that did not earn them any points with me.
Menards has, apparently, a corporate policy that everyone wears masks. Nothing to do with complying with local rules, just their own dumb decision. One of a few stupid things they have done through this, and which has me boycotting them for now at least- I’m not sure if I will go back once this is all over. And I spend a TON of money there. Anyway, I decided to test it out a couple weeks ago, and damned if their gatekeeper lackey didn’t stop me and tell me I needed to wear a mask. I told him I wasn’t going to, and away we went on our little confrontation. It lasted for several minutes, and things got pretty heated- I didn’t really want to do that, it isn’t my nature, but unfortunately I feel that SOMEONE needs to push back hard and let these businesses know that all their customers aren’t on their knees, grateful that they are “keeping them safe.” Hopefully if their enforcers get enough resistance and headache from people who disagree, they will start saying fuck it, it’s not worth it for 12 bucks an hour. And whoever is managing these places realizes that it’s an untenable policy. Of course, they probably did a nice little business selling junky disposable masks at the service counter for a buck a piece, at least for a while until most of their customers realized they would need to bring one.
Still better than Home Depot.
it’s not our rule
Then don't enforce it.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/cuomo-snaps-when-pressed-on-nursing-home-death-scandal-nobody-can-be-prosecuted-for-it
“What is justice? Who can we prosecute for those deaths? Nobody,” Cuomo said to the reporter. “Nobody. Mother nature. God. Where did this virus come from? People are going to die by this virus. That is the truth.
EXCLUSIVE: New York Admits Knowingly Undercounting Nursing Home Deaths After Quietly Changing Reporting Rules
https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/15/new-york-coronavirus-reporting-nursing-home-deaths-undercounting/
Indeed, of the nine states with the largest coronavirus outbreaks, New York has the lowest reported share of state deaths from long-term care residents at 20%, according to The Times.
The share of long-term care resident fatalities reported by the other eight states ranges from 36% to 66%, according to The Times.
https://skillednursingnews.com/2020/04/cms-orders-nursing-homes-to-report-all-covid-19-cases-to-cdc-plans-public-data-release/
Over a month ago the DOJ issued guidance to skilled nursing facilities that any COVID related death - whether occurring in the home or after discharge to the hospital must be reported as an "unexpected death." This term has specific regulatory meaning in long term care, and clusters of them will attract additional regulatory scrutiny.
New York State can publish fudged numbers, but what the facilities report to the Feds will not be fudged.
Best hospital system on the globe, I believe we have. Best doctors, best nurses who have responded like heroes, every medication, ventilators, the health system wants for nothing. We worked it out so we always had available beds. Nobody was deprived of a bed or medical coverage in any way.
And still people died. Still, people died. Older people, vulnerable people are going to die from this virus,” Cuomo continued. “That is going to happen despite whatever you do.”
“You can have a situation where everyone did the right thing and everyone tried their best, and people still die,” Cuomo concluded. “Look, people rationalize death in different ways. I don’t think there was any logical rationale to say, they would be alive today.”
I have bolded the grain of truth in the midst of his conflation, prevarication, and lies. Pants-shitting fear caused by criminally negligent 'scientific' models led him and his lackeys to shift the elderly out of the hospitals and back into nursing homes, despite the knowledge it was a death sentence for the other people in the homes.
Evil and incompetent. Read his words and tell me you can't hear them coming out of the mouths of Party officials in the series Chernobyl.
He sounds more and more Soviet with every speech.
Well, we could prosecute YOU, since we can directly trace the cause of death to you.
The frisson of fear and paranoia running through Brown's virus narrative makes it impossible to take her seriously either as a functioning adult or as a writer. Go right ahead and rattle off the daily number of new cases or deaths without putting them in context: how many new cases of flu and pneumonia? How many deaths from cancer and heart disease? Or flu and pneumonia for that matter?
Democrats Have Abandoned Civil Liberties
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/democrats-have-abandoned-civil-liberties
Democrats clearly believe constituents will forgive them for abandoning constitutional principles, so long as the targets of official inquiry are figures like Flynn or Paul Manafort or Trump himself. In the process, they’ve raised a generation of followers whose contempt for civil liberties is now genuine-to-permanent. Blue-staters have gone from dismissing constitutional concerns as Trumpian ruse to sneering at them, in the manner of French aristocrats, as evidence of proletarian mental defect.
The same mistake is now being made with civil liberties. Millions have lost their jobs and businesses by government fiat, there’s a clamor for censorship and contact tracing programs that could have serious long-term consequences, yet voters only hear Trump making occasional remarks about freedom; Democrats treat it like it’s a word that should be banned by Facebook (a recent Washington Post headline put the term in quotation marks, as if one should be gloved to touch it). Has the Trump era really damaged our thinking to this degree?
http://off-guardian.org/2020/05/07/covid19-and-the-left-an-ignored-civil-rights-crisis
That article fails the Reason standards for proper use of both sides.
And the Matt Welch principle: The more a column begrudgingly praises Trump's action, the nastier the To-Be-Sure-I-Hate-Trump graf has to be.
As John has pointed out repeatedly, the modern left doesn't make any effort to hide what they want to do--they're quite open and honest about it, and the right continually makes the mistake of thinking that they won't follow through if they believe they can get away with it, or that the "moderates" will yank them back to some semblance of sanity.
Sun Goes Into Cooling 'Lockdown' -- Greta Thunberg Hardest Hit
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/bryan-preston/2020/05/15/sun-goes-into-cooling-lockdown-greta-thunberg-hardest-hit-n395711
The sun’s cooling ought to offset the alleged warming the earth has experienced over the past decade or century. In addition to (hopefully) muting global warming zealots for a while, it may cause 2020 to be the most memorable blur of a year in a long time. The last major sunspot minimum, the Maunder Minimum, ushered in a “little ice age.”
Unicef warns lockdown could kill more than Covid-19 as model predicts 1.2 million child deaths
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/unicef-warns-lockdown-could-kill-covid-19-model-predicts-12/
'Indiscriminate lockdowns' are an ineffective way to control Covid and could contribute to a 45 per cent rise in child mortality
"If it might help save just one life, ...."
as long as the old people are safe than thats all that matters everything else is just post birth abortions
"A fetus becomes a person upon reaching eligibility to vote." - t. the Democrats
But aborted fetuses are already dead and therefore get 2 votes if they're voting Democrat.
https://twitter.com/wretchardthecat/status/1262354922063814664
And though it’s been long forgotten, Obama officials were caught monitoring the conversations of members of Congress who opposed the Iran nuclear deal.
Because he had the press and the deep state covering for him, Obama pretty much thought he was bulletproof, didn't he?
...and he was right.
https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2020/05/18/forget-about-seeing-any-justice-for-obamagate-n2568924
Allow me to disabuse you of your naïve delusion that we still live in a country with a justice system and break it to you that no one is going to jail for what was done to Flynn, or for the unmasking business, or for the Russia hoax or, for that matter, for any of the corrupt Dem/foreigner collaborations exemplified by the payoffs received by stripperphile and Bolivian folk medicine enthusiast Hoover Biden.
No one.
You do understand that to the establishment, this dual track system where they ignore the law and we get the law dropped on us – including through active framing, as with LTG Flynn, to keep us in line – is how they want it, right? This is not an unintended consequence. They are for this.
They are actively for the abuse of the legal system to persecute their political enemies. You adorable naïfs come to me thinking that I, as a lawyer, will assuage your gnawing fear that something is rotten in the state of America. “Kurt, but this…this isn’t right? How can some people be prosecuted but other people with connections get away with crimes?” Well, the answer is simple: that is how many of the people with their grubby paws on the levers of power want it.
They want to use the government to stifle dissent, as the IRS did to Tea Party groups.
They want to make people afraid to oppose them by threatening them with crushing legal fees and maybe jail if they dare join the opposition – look at the trail of bankrupt Trumpworld folks after Obamagate.
Yup, that's what I was implying.
David Bernstein at Volokh Conspiracy has had several posts in the last month or so on weird and differing definitions of races by different US government agencies.
100,000 Businesses Have Permanently Collapsed Under Pandemic Lockdowns
https://thefederalist.com/2020/05/15/100000-businesses-have-permanently-collapsed-under-pandemic-lockdowns/
Watt's Up With That has interesting plots of some countries and states showing coronavirus deaths decreasing; we are long past the point where the original "justifications" for the lockdown apply; if they ever did, they sure don't now.
Remember Clapper's "least untruthful" answer - the justifications for the lockdowns were bullshit and the officials knew they were bullshit, but they were afraid that if they told the public right up front what the contingency plans were there would be too much resistance to their plans. It was really for your own good that they told you this was going to be just a limited, temporary thing to get you onboard with the program before they started making it less limited and less temporary. These people know how to boil frogs. They conned us with the "just the tip" trick.
Why can’t these people declare victory over the virus since the curve has been flattened, and move on?
Exhibit 2:
PICKENS, S.C. — Fitness 365 in Pickens opened it's doors to gym members early last week in direct violation of Gov. McMaster's executive orders for close contact businesses to remain closed to slow the spread of COVID-19.
. . . .
Pickens Police responded to Fitness 365 twice in the last 24 hours; once Tuesday night around 8:20, and one more time early Wednesday morning. Both time, officers entered the gym and requested all gym members leave the facility.
Officers placed a sign on the door, saying the gym is closed until Monday, May 18th. Holiday removed the sign, replaced it with the United States Bill of Rights, and reopened his gym.
https://www.wyff4.com/article/police-officers-shut-down-pickens-gym-twice-owner-reopens-anyway-citing-bill-of-rights/32466181
Personally, I wouldn't go to a high risk infection vector like a public gym right now, and for all I know, maybe there's a legitimate libertarian argument for the government to protect the rights of people who don't want to be infected by way of high risk disease vectors like wet markets for bats and 24 hour gyms. That being said, it's great to see people defy the law and cite their constitutional rights. Our rights are only important so long as there are people who are willing to assert them even when they are under attack in an environment of fear.
maybe there’s a legitimate libertarian argument for the government to protect the rights of people who don’t want to be infected by way of high risk disease vectors
Their rights are protected. They don't have to go there.
"Going to the gym is a Basic Human Right!"
"maybe there’s a legitimate libertarian argument for the government to protect the rights of people who don’t want to be infected by way of high risk disease vectors"
No, there isn't.
Yes, gyms can have rules that require masks, as is their right. Guv should protect that right.
Do you feel that way about wet market for bats in China?
You don't have to go there and buy a live bat if you don't want to!
I don't necessarily disagree with you, but my point was that you don't have to agree with what people like the owner of this gym are doing in order to appreciate seeing people cite their constitutional rights as a defense against executive orders made in a climate of fear.
Being a libertarian means sometimes opposing things we'd support otherwise just because of the way they're done. Even IF IF IF I supported the government shutting down high risk disease vectors like this, I might oppose it in this case on the grounds that the governor has no right to arbitrarily ignore the Constitution and violate this man's rights without input from the state legislature, at least, etc., etc.
My greatest concern is that people will somehow stop valuing their constitutional rights. I don't have to agree with people on any particular issue to value seeing them assert their constitutional rights. We may be able to disagree about anything and everything else, but libertarians everywhere should be able to agree that people asserting their rights in the face of government coercion is a good thing.
Whether they're against a war I support, or whether they're in favor of a war I oppose, or whether they're . . .
"Do you feel that way about wet market for bats in China?"
Wet market bans are stupid. You'll just get black markets instead. Better to keep them above board and encourage some improved sanitation.
The Chinese government is effectively wiping Islam off the face of Xinjiang, and you don't think they can shut down the wet market in live bats?
It is often the case that using the coercive power of government to shut something down is a bigger waste of resources than the goal itself is worth. That's almost certainly the case with the drug war.
Because we're not willing to do what needs to be done in order to eradicate something because the costs are greater than the benefits doesn't mean it can't be eradicated.
We might have solved the problem of terrorism in Afghanistan with two or three well-placed nukes. The reason we didn't do that was because the risk of various forms of retaliation from a nuclear Pakistan and its pro-terrorist ISI service were serious but it was also because the American people have a conscience and wouldn't have stood for wiping out so many innocent people in the blink of an eye.
The Chinese government isn't entirely immune to concerns about cost, but the outrageous cost of eliminating Islam from Xinjiang through massive surveillance and the reeducation of millions of people doesn't seem to have dissuaded them. I'm sure they don't have a conscience and aren't worried about whether the Chinese people support going after live bat markets or not.
I believe they could effectively eliminate those live bat markets if they wanted to. They may not wipe them out 100%, but "solving" 99% of the problem may be worth it to them. Whether they should is another question entirely.
Wet markets are a problem because the combination of their storing multiple different wildly-diverse species in very close proximity, with abysmal sanitation, provides conditions where a zoonotic, human-pathogenic organism can evolve, where it otherwise couldn't absent the wet market. It's not the same public health issue as a gym at all.
As to the CCP banning wet markets vs banning Uighurs, China is largely (90% or so) Han Chinese in race and culture. Banning Uighurs and Islam is just an example of a very dominant, extremely culturally chauvinistic group cleansing itself of a hated minority. Plenty of examples of that being a success in history.
Wet markets, OTOH, are used by a significant chunk of the population, and it may be a majority. They are not hated by a majority, and indeed China might have a problem feeding its population beyond rice if these markets did not exist. The environment is a luxury good, and 1.3 billion Chinese do not have a lot of room for luxury when it comes to food production.
Again that the Chinese are likely to achieve one difficult (and hideous) goal does not mean much for our attempts to deduce whether they can achieve another unrelated difficult goal.
"Wet markets are a problem because the combination of their storing multiple different wildly-diverse species in very close proximity, with abysmal sanitation, provides conditions where a zoonotic, human-pathogenic organism can evolve, where it otherwise couldn’t absent the wet market."
My understanding is that the reason bats are often at the center of this is because they're a mammal that packs by the millions in a single cave closely together. When viruses mutate, they spread among those bats in those caves like hardly any other species of mammal. If they were dead, it wouldn't be so much of a problem, but live bats with a viral infection cough, sneeze, vomit, shit, and piss--just like other mammals. That's how they're spreading those viruses.
I read an article the other week suggesting that there are millions of bats in a single cave in Texas. They're like that all over the world--they all pack so close together. When you bring a live bat out of a cave, the chances that one bat has been exposed to everything any bat in that cave has been exposed to are high. Meanwhile, bats are feeding on things and living in environments that are highly conducive to viral infections.
That's why when you bring a live bat out of a cave and into contact with people in a market, you're asking for it, and I don't think it's a question of when the next virus will come from live bats transmitting a novel virus to humans through wet markets. It's just a question of when. Bats are believed to have been the original hosts of Ebola, SARS, and now COVID-19. and if things stay as they are, they'll be the source of the next epidemic, too.
P.S. AIDS also, apparently, originated from wet markets.
The bats might be in a high concentration in the wild, Ken---and we'll leave aside the minor point that the bat species this bug is alleged to have jumped from, wasn't for sale at that market. Nor existed within 500 kilometers of it, unless you count the specimens in the virology labs.
Anyway, they're in a high concentration with themselves in that cave, and maybe a few fungi, insects, minor scavengers. What they're not in close contact with are hundreds of different animal species with extremely wide geographic dispersion in Nature, like they were at that wet market. In the wild, there's no interspecies mingling like at that market. No getting sprayed with urine, feces, or respiratory droplets from some animal that might normally live a few hundred miles away, and never naturally intermingle with a bat colony.
It's the huge number of widely different species kept together very closely, in ill condition, with terrible sanitation, that's the danger in viral recombination leading to a zoonotic leap. Not a high concentration of the same critter. Albeit I can see how you can amplify a successful microorganism very quickly in those conditions.
"you don’t think they can shut down the wet market in live bats?"
Sure, they can shut down the visible ones. But you think people who sell bats won't find a way to connect with people who want to buy them? Or that corrupt officials won't turn a blind eye whenever profitable/possible?
Because a problem can't be solved completely is no reason not to solve 99% of it if you can. Surely, open markets mean there is more in the way of contact between people and bats than there would be otherwise. If you can cut that down by 80%, why wouldn't they want to do that?
Because they care about maximizing liberty isn't one of those reasons. They're an authoritarian dictatorship. Oh, and they squander a tremendous amount of resources going after people for religious beliefs that present no real threat to them--like Falun Gong--just because they can't stand to see people who believe in anything that is independent of the government. Going after wet markets makes more sense than going after Falun Gong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Falun_Gong
Why? Falun Gong is a threat to their leadership autonomy. At least in their minds. Wet markets OTOH, are how most of the citizenry (per what I understand from listening to and reading ex-pat's accounts of life in China), get to flavor their rice with something besides rice.
Maybe you could go all The Jungle on them and instill some mandatory sanitation practices? But banning something so widespread and popular? The backlash from that might be a bigger threat to CCP autonomy than Falun Gong ever dreamed of.
"Do you feel that way about wet market for bats in China?"
Ken, if that's directed to me, the answer is yes, I feel that way about any markets anywhere.
Don't like it? Don't go there.
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"My greatest concern is that people will somehow stop valuing their constitutional rights. I don’t have to agree with people on any particular issue to value seeing them assert their constitutional rights."
Couldn't agree more; I'm noticing people now asking government to grant them the right to do something; screw that!
If the only people who assert their rights are those who agree with us, then our rights are in deep trouble.
The point is to get people to respect each other's rights regardless of whether they agree with each other on any particular issue.
Both time, officers entered the gym and requested all gym members leave the facility.
As the article yesterday pointed out , cops can "request" all kinds of things citizens may feel are more than just mere requests, but when it comes down to it, what happens if you decline their requests? If the cops are going to issue an order and threaten arrest for failure to comply, show me the law that authorizes the order. And, no, simply declaring an emergency and granting yourself emergency powers doesn't cut it - there's no "emergency powers" clause in the Constitution and whatever emergency powers clauses might be within the local or state ordinances cannot supersede the Constitution.
Germany: Nein mit frei sprechen!
"Germany Vows to Imprison Citizens Who Burn EU Flags for 3 Years"
[...]
"Germany’s parliament voted on Thursday to amend the criminal code to protect the European Union flag from acts of vandalism. Punishments for breaking the new law range from a fine or prison sentence of up to three years.
The vote follows months of debate on the controversial law, and a previous session in parliament on protecting the EU flag from physical harm in January.
Germany’s Deutsche Welle noted at the time the controversy around the proposed law, with some members insisting the burning of flags is a legitimate form of political speech and to ban it would be a infringe on freedom of expression..."
https://newspunch.com/germany-vows-imprison-citizens-burn-eu-flags-3-years/
So hitlers dream of have a united europe under German control is almost finished
It always struck me how the naive and woke somehow imagine this united Europe will be totally different than Caesar's, or Charlemagne's, or Gustav Vasa's, or Napoleon's, or Frederick the Great's, or Kaiser Wilhelm's, or Hitler's.
This one is democr....shit I couldn't even type it without spitting out my coffee.
That's sure is some slow burning flag material.
Are you kidding me? Wall to wall Wuhan?
This is manufactured news.
2 months of utter waste.
Pathetic.
And lastly, the racism / political correctness polls showing elite whites far more sensitive than the minorities they claim to seek to protect is hardly surprising. The same difference applies everywhere, always. Most gun people, for instance, do not make gun rights their primary concern when voting. What IS different is that the claims made by the elite whites does not apply to them. while gun rights advocates do indeed own guns and encourage others to buy guns and carry them.
It also shows how useful victim-only prosecution is. These elite white snowflakes seek to prosecute other whites for crimes against minorities. It's very weird. makes you wonder what they feel so guilty for that they have to turn on their own kind, so to speak, and considering how hard they push the "white is guilty" aspect, one wonders what crimes they have committed that they need to draw attention away from, a la mama quails.
When elite whites in this country view race and concern for minorities as a means of asserting their moral superiority over non elite whites. Minorities themselves really have nothing to do with it. The minorities are just paper cut outs in the morality play that goes on in elite whites' heads. Whenever an elite white talks about "racism", he is asserting his moral superiority over non elite whites. He is saying that "I understand racism and how bad white people are and am therefore morally superior to those lower class whites who don't". That is it. The conversation about "race" in this country such as it is is about 90% a conversation among white people. And the conversation consists entirely of elite whites using the charge of racism as a way to assert their moral superiority over other whites.
When you understand that, a lot of things that elite white do suddenly make sense.
"'We' are evil" really means you are evil and I'm better than you for recognizing that.
Exactly that.
Eventually you realize their entire stance is completely disingenuous. The places that boast the highest minority poverty rates are almost exclusively areas where team blue has ruled without opposition for decades. They are either lying about wanting to help these people, or they are incompetent to they point where they genuinely don't realize that 90% of their policies are counterproductive to accomplishing their stated goals.
What really happened is they figured out many years ago that a lot of people sincerely and rightfully felt that many of the minorities in this country had been treated deplorably for far to long. It became, at least I believe, completely justifiable to not want to be seen as racist. It's counter to individualism. However, some very cynical people recognized this and turned "anti-racism" into their highest stated moral-maxim in order to lazily turn accusations of racism into a get-out-of-argument-free card. It's the sort of religious thinking that would turn otherwise normal people into an angry mob when someone would shout "Heretic!"
That is true. But, one of the reasons that it became an argument free card is because upper class whites get so much of their self esteem and sense of moral superiority from the certainty that they are not racist and are better than lower class whites who are. To question if something is racist is to also question the moral superiority of upper class whites over lower class whites. And upper class whites are not going to do that. So, calling something racist is an argument ender with them.
True, I guess what I'm really getting it is that the vast majority of them don't even actually believe in anti-racism and they are consciously aware of it. Any self esteem derived from their positions is performative and they know it. It's not like when they sell their houses in gated communities they put into the listing "will only sell to minorities to help make the community more diverse!"
Any self esteem derived from their positions is performative and they know it. It’s not like when they sell their houses in gated communities they put into the listing “will only sell to minorities to help make the community more diverse!”
That is part of what makes it so appealing to them. They not only don't have to actually do anything, they actually get a pass and can do things that they would call other people racist for doing. That makes them feel even more special.
It is like people who claim global warming is the biggest threat to mankind and then take private jets everywhere. They don't see that as hypocrisy. They see that as a privilege that comes wiht being part of the enlightened elite who understand the threat and are tying to stop it.
It is seriously twisted shit. Puritans of the past were hypocrites but at least understood it was wrong and were ashamed of it. Puritans of today see hypocrisy as a privilege of being one of the virtuous.
There's no way to to test since all the old puritans are now dead, but I suspect it was the exact same thing for them. They most likely shamelessly and with great pleasure, participated in the sort of things they denounced. The people who are the most righteous about their stances are often the worst offenders whether it's pedophile priests and the clergy all the way near the top that enables and hides them or anyone that flew on the Lolita Express creating laws to imprison people for sex and climate crimes.
These people almost always look at the world, clutch their pearls and screech "Can you imagine the horror if everyone behaved like us all the time? It would be chaos!"
There was an article in the Guardian a couple of weeks ago about the real case that inspired the novel Lord of the Flies. Back in the 60s a bunch of teenage boys really were stranded on an island for 15 months. Turns out it was nothing like Lord of the Flies. They all worked together and took care of one another and came through it fine.
The author of the novel William Golding was a real nasty piece of work. He hated society and didn't fit in at all. Basically, he was like everyone in the book and assumed that the rest of the world was the same. That was his rationalization for being as he was.
I am sure that is what the old Puritans thought. The difference is they didn't think they could be proud of it and open about it the way today's Puritans are.
Privilege discourse also makes very little sense outside of high-rent progressive areas where upwardly mobile people of color can use it to vie with others for status and employment opportunities. In a poor area with mostly black or Hispanic people, what utility does calling out white privilege have? Anti-racism is performative sport for white progressives and leverage (to a point) for people of color, but only in these progressive contexts.
This is the biggest news on Wall Street today. This is why the stock market is rallying:
"An experimental vaccine from the U.S. biotechnology company Moderna Inc. showed signs that it can create an immune-system response to fend off the new coronavirus, offering tentative hopes in the global effort to combat the pandemic.
The results are just a sample from the small, first study designed to look at the safety of the shot in human volunteers, and should be viewed with caution. But they showed no major safety worries, a key first hurdle since a vaccine would be given to millions of otherwise healthy people.
“This is a very good sign that we make an antibody that can stop the virus from replicating,” Moderna Chief Executive Officer Stephane Bancel said in an interview. The data “couldn’t have been better,” he said. The company is moving ahead with plans for a larger test to pick a dose of the vaccine and further study its effectiveness, as well as a phase 3 test with many thousands of patients."
----Bloomberg
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-18/vaccine-from-moderna-shows-early-signs-of-viral-immune-response
This is why the S&P 500 is rallying. This is why the yield on the 10-year treasury is falling.
"This is why the yield on the 10-year treasury is
falling[rising]."Fixed!
Good that it's rallying. Bad that, if you're right in the cause, it is so closely tied to whether a vaccine is available soon. I would be delighted to see one. I have my doubts about whether we will, and I really have doubts that any potential side effects will be determined and evaluated before making the vaccine available for use.
The economy should be recovering because the self-induced economic destruction of forced staying at home is ending. Not because the market believes in a unicorn riding in to save us from this bug.
The media must report the truth of the anti-Trump spy operation:
https://thefederalist.com/2020/05/17/media-must-report-truth-of-anti-trump-spy-operation-before-its-too-late-for-them/
By the way, all of this applies to you too Reason. You’re right there squarely on the list of media organizations that incredibly still haven’t reported the truth on all of this.
I know that the truth turned out to be not at all what you wanted it to be, but maybe try having a little integrity for a change.
Reported the truth? They haven't even touched it.
Telling, isn't it?
Shackford got mad at me the other day because I said he has no credibility as a self-proclaimed staunch 4th Amendment supporter. I then directly asked him why it is that he still refuses to acknowledge the obvious truth of what really happened in this Operation Crossfire Hurricane fiasco.
He refused to answer my question, and I'm 99% certain he never will answer this question either.
Bonfire of the credibilities.
Youtube takes down another video for daring to question Government over the pandemic.
https://nypost.com/2020/05/16/youtube-censors-epidemiologist-knut-wittkowski-for-opposing-lockdown/
I've watched that guy's stuff. He's not promoting any virus cure or conspiracy crackpottery -- he's simply saying home confinment's counterproductive.
Google taking his stuff down looks very much like they're taking political sides, not that they're "protecting" people from dangerous misinformation.
Like many of the current policies from both government and tech firms, this pandemic seems to have turned into a great opportunity to test out what Chinese-styled fascism would look like if implemented here. I don't think it's a coincidence that "intellectual" publications like The Atlantic are publishing weekly think pieces about how great China is at controlling all aspect of life and how that form of government is inevitable here. Seeing how many people are willing to credulously bend the knee in the name of safety has me concerned.
Unfortunate first name. Or is it?
And then there's the guy with a blood alcohol level of over .5 whose cause of death was listed as covid.
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/05/14/coronavirus-montezuma-county-coroner-alcohol-poisoning-covid-death/
“Most of us feel that the number of deaths are likely higher than that number,” said Fauci.
"And our feelings count, because we're scientists."
Even with tall the miss counting it still has leveled off so its true they went down which makes the opening statement a lie. good grief and people wonder why no one trust anyone in the media tv or print or otherwise
https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1262089695745527810
Jake Tapper pushed Russia collusion conspiracy theories for years then has the audacity to say showing raw video of Joe Biden being creepy is a "smear campaign." It's incredible.
Granted, they're the left and therefore stupid, but I don't get not bouncing Biden for the Reade allegations and pumping themselves up as willing to police their own, if they are most likely to ditch Biden because of his cognitive decline.
Why toss all this credibility (that some believe they have, even if I don't) and then ditch Biden?
It's a timing issue. If they chuck Biden before the Convention, the leading vote getter to replace him has to be Bernie. Who's nuts, and toxic as hell to Wall Street.
So, if they want to replace Biden, they need to do it---if they want to do it at all---after he's locked into the top of the ticket. Then his Veep can take over, and it won't be Bernie either. I do think there's a small chance that the VP nominee, after taking Biden's position at the top of the ticket if Biden should have to withdraw for medical reasons, will appoint a new VP, and that might be Bernie. Brings the Bernie kids back to the fold, at least some of them.
I think he'd take the job. What does a Vice President do except go to funerals and hang out in a mansion in D.C.? Bernie's lazy enough, that probably sounds like a dream job.
As long as they can keep Joe propped up, I think they'll keep him around. He'll do as he's told, so make him the figurehead until after the 2022 midterms, and then he can retire and his crazy VP can step up and still run for two full terms of her own.
The problem with keeping him around is that he's not convincing undecided voters anymore that he's a viable alternative to Trump. He's not polling well enough. It may be that no feasible replacement Democratic candidate will poll well enough either, in which case let him lose like Dole.
Except that there's a so-so chance that Trump will try to go in dry on the former Obama Administration officials who spied on him, if Trump gets reelected. So it would be better for a lot of connected people if Trump were to lose this election this year, and I'm not sure they can pull that off---no matter how many states go to mail-in ballots---with Biden as their candidate.
I am worried that Michelle Obama gets induced to run. I agree that she normally wouldn't want the job, but if winning is the only way to keep Barack, Jarrett, or others out of jail... Tell me a shit ton of Americans wouldn't vote for her in an effort to get the Obama Third Administration.
I guess they could pull off something like that at the last minute, but I don't think it will happen. She hasn't shown any inclination towards politics, and the last of the old-line Boomer Dems that came up in the 70s seem determined to ride Biden as their generation's last hurrah, before giving way to the folks that largely migrated in during the Dubya years.
Timing. If they bounce him now, Bernie is the nominee. They have to wait until Biden is crowned.
Because the media acts as a DNC organ because they are true believers, not because they are getting direct orders most of the time. Covering for the DNC isn't something most journalist have to be told to do.
Of interest to many "Reason" commenters: Colorado will be allowing people to sign ballot petitions over the Internet. https://coloradosun.com/2020/05/16/colorado-ballot-signature-gathering-email-mail/
100% guaranteed to put an full slate of leftist wack-jobbery on this year's ballot. Welcome to California 2.0, fellow Coloradoans!
Fuck. I'm getting out of this place.
Please let the rest of us know if you find some place to run to.
Welcome to California 2.0, fellow Coloradoans!
Yep, pretty much, and with the same dysfunctional government institutions. This is a state that is nominally blue, but can't even approve one of two separate funding plans to fix the roads that everyone is always bitching about. It's had a massive influx of tech goons and pot heads, with nothing all that great to show for it except increased traffic, pollution, and shitty condo complexes that look like they came from the mind of some IKEA engineer on acid. And unless you live in lily-white areas like Douglas County, Boulder County, Centennial, or certain parts of JeffCo, good luck getting your kids a decent education.
Grew up in JeffCo -- schools were shit. Anyway, no worries on that front. My kids're homeshooled.
Re: road funding, I've been assured that the new "progressive" income tax will fix all road and bridges problems. Because budget money isn't fungible, right?
By the way, I am so stealing your IKEA engineer on acid simile.
Don't Believe the Hype About Georgia's Dramatic Drop in COVID-19 Cases
Reason Roundup with Chuck D and Flava Flav.
Open letter to "Reason": Now that Amash's out, can you please stop plastering pictures of his dork-ass face all over your site?
“Literally nowhere ever in any type of statistics would that be acceptable."
Just assume Georgia was making a case for global climate catastrophe. In that case, it would be just fine.
Fixed
+1 Flava Flav.
When will these analysts and consultants learn? If you're relying on "energizing the younger base" to win, you're going to lose, every single time. In a typical election, the youth don't vote in any appreciable numbers required to effect the results. Obama was a once-in-a-lifetime phenomenon. You can't rely on that kind of anomaly to bail you out every time you're fielding a candidate who lacks a coherent agenda.
And even Obama didn't win because of the youth vote. He energized the youth vote like no other presidential nominee had since Kennedy. But that is not why he won. He won because he picked up the votes of a bunch of suburban swing districts that had gone for Bush.
There's another large, traditionally Democratic voting block that he energized; but I'm guessing it won't be so energetic this time around.
" someone of Schumer’s stature,"
Doesn't compute.
Being a DD doesn't mean you are large of stature?
That makes him staturesque.
Big titted with a forward hunch.
Georgia hospitalizations are doing the same thing they've done before the lockdown, during the lockdown, and after the lockdown.
Further proof that making it illegal to work is not the fine line between order and chaos.
CBS runs footage from an Italian hospital during a story about overstressed hospitals in New York: "Whoops, our bad! Accidents happen, old chap!" *quietly uses the same footage in a story about Pennsylvania hospitals a week later*
Media: Have you heard Trump wants you to drink bleach!?!
Reason: It's a shame that CBS makes stupid mistakes like this that just make it look like they really are dishonestly reporting on Trump.
Georgia makes a mistake in their reporting of new coronavirus cases.
Media: Georgia governor is a lying liar who lies! It's hard to see how this is anything but deliberate!
Reason: Seems legit.
Reason is all about principals, not principles, when it comes to questioning motives.
As a Georgian, could I suggest a more banal reason for the errors? With so many adminstrators working from home, compiling information is extremely difficult. It's possible incorrect information was transmitted, a cut and paste did not take effect, an incorrect column was selected, etc. Rural Georgia has notoriously bad internet service once you get out of the cities. I'm working from home and a two or three times a day, my internet signal drops to basically nothing. Pages take forever to load, edits I make to spreadsheets don't save, and I'm positive my boss thinks I must be sitting at home drinking all day because some of some of the things I've screwed up. In order to get good connections for zoom meetings, I've had to resort to getting in the motor home and driving up the road a couple of miles, then connecting through my Verizon hot spot. It has been frustrating to say the least. The reversal in dates is a major screw up, but it definitely could have been by mistake. But the discrepancy is numbers can simply be a matter of the difficulties in getting the updated information from all 159 counties to the dept of health for compilation. Remember, so many of the people collecting the info are not sitting in a nice organized office, instead, they are sitting at the dining room table or a small desk putting together this information while home teaching 2 or 3 children all while using unreliable internet service.
Shhh, that makes sense but ruins the narrative.
LOL! The error is common for veteran spreadsheet users.
If you have a spreadsheet with totals at the end of the rows, when you just insert a column for new data as the last row, it won't include that column in the totals. But, if you insert a column before the existing last row (like inserting a column for May 5 before the column for April 28) then the totals at the end of the rows include the numbers in the newly inserted column. Of course, you should then cut & paste that last column to the correct location, but failure to do that is an oversight, not a deliberate misrepresentation.
If you're doing horizontal cross tabs that way there's no saving you, you're beyond redemption.
Make the ugly normalized table, and then run a pivot off of it.
Or just make a goddamn database you plebs.
Really? They are so inept they can't order numbers by date on the X-axis of a graph?
Happy Birthday Reggie Jackson! Your candy bar was underrated.
Decent tipper too. Gruff, but a lot of celebs are.
yes. ballplayers always seemed to tip me well
China had a massive outbreak yesterday of 7 additional cases. Wow! That's sad.
You know what's *really* sad?
What's really sad is that there are still idiots who believe anything put out by the CCP. The same CCP that's been "disappearing" inconvenient facts since this shit began. (Including doctors.)
You're really giving Tony a run for his money in the "Stupidest Reason Commentator" Olympics.
Or maybe you don't actually believe the shit you post? Mendacity or stupidity -- which is it?
Case numbers in South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, and Singapore all show negligible disease as well. Are they lying too? It turns out when you are ruled by a right-wing narcissist liar that is totally in over his head it tends to make a difference.
Question: You actually believe the numbers coming out of this government in the US? Pfft, I'd probably trust the Chinese commies over these Trumpian fuckups. The former would probably lie to you out of malice. The latter out of incompetence. Which one are you: liar or studid?
"Which one are you: liar or studid?
liar or studid
studid
Oh he's definitely studid, AmSoc, but when it comes to dishonest idiots you're the champ.
It takes a special brand of retard to guzzle all four inches of CCP propaganda, when even your examples, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, and Singapore have all accused China of lying.
all four inches of CCP propaganda
I love it when the insults are meta.
The balls! Don't forget to gargle the balls!
Cuomo is a Democrat you retard. He is a fascist liar but he is not Rightwing.
Where did you even get that idea? Also, most people don't live in New York and are not ruled Cuomo. You really are stupid.
It turns out when you are ruled by a right-wing narcissist liar that is totally in over his head it tends to make a difference.
Just a tiny little correction, if you please: Here in the USA, we are not "ruled" by anyone. Now fuck off, you bootlicking commie toady.
That's how they think. That's why they let it, um, consume their lives.
Please stop linking to NY Times and other sites that require payment or log in to read articles.
And how about some information about this inflammatory thing from an outlet that is trying to inform people (if there are any) rather than just make everything as scary as possible.
But that would wreck the whole point of being inflammatory and trying to make everything as scary as possible.
Besides, researching articles is hard work when just posting your twitter feed achieves the goals you wanted anyway.
https://www.fox29.com/news/police-to-new-jersey-gym-that-opened-in-defiance-of-order-have-a-good-day
The lock down has gotten so idiotic, even the cops in New Jersey won't enforce it. They have managed to do the impossible; come up with a law so offensive that even cops won't enforce it. Wow.
That is actually not a good thing = a law so offensive that even cops won’t enforce it.
I was Ok with the restriction for the first month. After that, I cannot justify what Phailing Phil Murphy is doing. And the NJ Legislature (Duma in making) is going right along with it. They are merely a rubber stamp.
Besides the few countries who had significant coronavirus cases and didn't do a full lockdown, the pandemic is providing another set of "experimental" data. This one is regarding human CO2 emissions. There's no way to deny that they are way way down around the world and have been for at least 2 months. But, it's not noticeable in the Mauna Loa data, which is typically used as a proxy for "global" CO2 levels.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/05/17/the-covid-lockdown-and-co2/
Maybe there's a lag, but I don't see how it could be a significant one because CO2 emissions are way down pretty uniformly around the globe and 2 months is plenty of time for the currents to mix the atmosphere enough to see at least some effect at Mauna Loa. If there's an effect, it's not noticeable. I don't know, maybe there'll be a blip that shows up six months from now, but for now it looks like "global" CO2 levels don't care much about human emissions on short time scales.
Yup, mentioned that here a few weeks ago, when I was looking for the Mauna Kea data.
I don't have an explanation. I wouldn't think lag would be that pronounced. Perhaps CO2 really is a lagging indicator from the planet warming via other means?
I just read a good point on Instapundit. Funny how you don't see antifa anymore. The entire country has been locked down in a show of unparalleled authoritarianism and suddenly "Resist" became "comply". It is almost as if they are just fascist assholes or something.
There haven't been any pro-Right issues and marches for them, that Antifa needed to show up for and crack heads. If there are more anti-lockdown protests, and if those protests get legs, I expect to see Antifa back to its usual bike lock and concrete milkshake tricks.
One caveat for them: a lot more of these protests are involving open carry men and women. Antifa may find that violently disrupting a protest has become a contact sport. 'Course, that may be part of their backers' plans...
Maybe it's just that Antifa isn't a big thing. You see a lot more gun-toting right wingers.
Maybe there are agents on earth that consume CO2? Maybe those agents have reduced their activity since there is less CO2 to consume?
But there is more CO2 to consume. That's the quandary. The sensors on top of whatever-the-fuck peak it is on the Big Island, have shown an increase in CO2 concentration when comparing this year to last year at this time. And the year before too.
But we know that man made CO2 emissions have gone into the toilet; the WTI futures price going negative was a big clue there. Nobody's driving, factories are idled, power consumption is down. So if Man isn't pumping out CO2, but global levels are still rising, then what's causing it?
IIRC, CO2 solubility in seawater goes down with increased temperature. If water temperatures rise, like if the Sun was getting hotter, CO2 solubility would drop, and more of it would be in the atmosphere. No man made internal combustion engines needed. If the Sun really is cooling temporarily, seawater should get colder and CO2 solubility will rise, resulting in less atmospheric CO2. Depending on the kinetics of all of these subparts.
I tend to think that it's why you see the gradual increase over time. Some large portion of the rise in atmospheric CO2 over the course of the last century is from ocean outgassing as the planet continues its warming trend after the Little Ice Age. Human emissions have some contribution, but I think it's minor compared to ocean outgassing.
As I've said multiple times over the past few weeks, don't whine to me about your church or synagogue being closed if you and your fellow parishioners are not willing to take a stand against government encroachments. I'm happy to see that a church in Camden, New Jersey, did just that yesterday. This is long overdue. What a lot of religious people cowering in their basements don't realize is that law enforcement doesn't want the bad PR that would come with mass arresting congregants in the pews. Sure, they'll patrol your parking lots and hand out a few tickets here and there, but they're not going to walk entire congregations out the front door in cuffs before the glaring light of TV cameras. So get out there and fill your fucking pews already.
Signed, your friendly neighborhood atheist
I don't generally go to church. But I am dying to go to church in defiance of one of these orders.
You do have to admit, there's a certain contingent of the people endorsing the lockdowns that would love nothing more than to watch a mass arrest of church goers. They are heretics against the Science! The prophet Neil Ferguson has stated it so.
Yes, please. Then you can pray that you don't get Covid.
https://twitter.com/FOX29philly/status/1262401119449493505
“HAVE A GOOD DAY”: Police in Camden County told the owners of a New Jersey gym that reopened this morning that they were “formally” in violation of the state’s shutdown order. “On that note, have a good day. Everybody be safe.”
So, kind of a minor thing compared to everything else going on, but Sony and Naughty Dog have been censoring (with Youtube's help) any and all videos talking badly about their new game coming out. There was a leak for The Last of Us 2 where it was revealed the plot had gone full woke and that you would be playing as a tranny and brutally killing the 2 main characters that everyone had grown attached to in the last game. Very few people saw the appeal in this, but since then Sony and its subsidiaries, in violation of federal law, have been sending false copyright claims to anyone talking about the game negatively. Hundreds of youtubers have been hit multiple times and are getting shadowbanned/demonetized over this. Youtube has just rubberstamped it, and interestingly enough, no media (gaming or otherwise) has picked up on what is a big story, there's been a media blackout on it. A bunch of youtubers are getting ready for a class-action lawsuit.
https://reclaimthenet.org/sony-copyright-last-of-us-2-leaks/
Just Some Guy on youtube also has done some videos on it
I'd heard about this. Probably because I get my pop culture from youtubers instead of newspapers. This isn't a new issue. It's been a known thing for a while that if you review a big IP on youtube at critical times, that the owner of the IP will file a false copyright claim. The IP owners figure you'll either be too cowed to fight them, or even if you do fight them and get the video reinstated, your video will be down for the few critical days that consumers are deciding whether to buy a game or watch a show.
It's a little bit of same old, a little bit of new. Yes, they used to file false copyright claims, but Sony is going one step further and, arguably, YouTube is (even more) complicit.
The stories I've heard are that Sony is acting through shell corporations that are unable or unwilling to provide proof of ownership and are harassing content creators more directly. Additionally, YouTube has issued statements to content creators that their content is no longer subject to review, but don't release/repost it.
^this
Wow. That's only one of the top 5 stories in video gaming history. It should be impossible to piss away the chance to make a commercially successful sequel to The Last Of Us, and yet Sony and Naughty Dog are going to do it.
Incredible. How utterly stupid do you have to be to go with that as your pitch? I mean, do they hate money over there?
god, what the fuck is up with people? I mean, I'm all for trannies doing their thing if that's what they want to do. But it's a tiny fucking minority. Does it really need to be in everything? Sorry, but people are always going to think transsexuals are weird.
Is Ronan Farrow's reporting "too good to be true"? Ben Smith of The New York Times exposes some serious flaws in the work of the celebrity journalist who has become a #MeToo and #Resistance hero.
Sad to see journo-on-journo hate crimes like this.
But that being said, "Ben Smith exposes some serious flaws in the work of" Ronan Farrow? AYFKM? At best, "Ben Smith alleges ...." or, more likely, "Ben Smith (if that is indeed his real name) fabricates...." - he works for the New York Times and therefore I wouldn't believe a goddamn word he says.
If Farrow has slandered anyone, they should sue. As far as I know, that hasn't happened. IS Smith really claiming Weinstein is innocent?
It has been well over a year since Farrow's article on Weinstein first dropped. Yet, suddenly the media decides there may be some problems with it. I am sure that has nothing to do with their desire to put the "me too" genie back in the bottle because the Democrats have nominated a serial groper for President. No, it just took the Times this long to get around to looking at what Farrow had to say closely. It just didn't get their attention until now I guess or something.
The ship #metooquod set sail in search of the Great Orange Whale. Instead it harpooned some squids(d) and a few flounders(d). Time to abandon ship says Ben Smith, but you can call him Ishmael.
"An experimental Covid-19 vaccine developed by cigarette maker British American Tobacco Plc is poised to begin testing in humans."
That sounds really dangerous. Shouldn't they do it on some clingers or deplorables first? If it saves even one human life!
Inflammatory syndrome in children. Couldn't have anything to do with all those toxic "disinfectant" chemicals they've been spraying and and rubbing on every surface in sight, could it?
Maybe there is a banal reason, incompetence in counting for the drop in numbers which isn’t a drop. But they are certainly crowing about it. That is not an accident. I will make a prediction. 1 month + open waffle houses + open bars + no masks = big uptick in cases.