Election 2020

Presidential Candidates Promise Freebies for Everyone

Politicians win, taxpayers lose.

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The Iowa Caucus, the real start of the 2020 presidential primaries, is next week. Who's favored to win? Sadly, as I write this, the smart money says it's the candidate who's promised Americans the most "free" stuff.

Six months ago, my staff and I tallied the candidates' promises. All wanted to give away trillions—or more accurately, wanted government to tax you and spend your money on the candidates' schemes.

At that point, Senator Kamala Harris led. Fortunately, her promises did not bring her sustained support, and she dropped out.

Unfortunately, now the other candidates are making even more promises.

So, it's time for a new contest.

My new video ranks the current leading candidates by how much of your money they promise to spend. We divide the promises into four categories:

Education

Joe Biden would make community college free, cut student loans in half, increase Pell Grants, and modernize schools.

Added to his previous campaign promises, he'd increase federal spending by $157 billion per year.

Elizabeth Warren would spend much more. She wants government to "provide universal child care for every baby in this country age 0 to 5, universal pre-K for every child, raise the wages of every childcare worker and preschool teacher in America, provide for universal tuition-free college, put $50 billion into historically black colleges and universities… and cancel student loan debt for 95% of the people."

She'd outspend Biden—but not Bernie Sanders.

Sanders would forgive all student loans—even for the rich. He also demands that government give everyone child care and pre-K.

Mayor Pete Buttigieg also promises free child care, more pay for teachers, more career education, free college and Pell Grants, plus the refinancing of student debt.

Good try, Pete, but Sanders "wins" in the education category, with nearly $300 billion in promises.

Climate

All the Democrats pretend they will do something useful about climate change. Biden would spend $170 billion per year, Buttigieg $150 billion to $200 billion, and Warren $300 billion. Sanders "wins" this category, too, by promising more than $1 trillion.

Health Care

Even the "moderate," Biden, now wants to "build out Obamacare" and to cover people here illegally.

So does Buttigieg—but he'd spend twice as much on it.

Warren complains the Buttigieg plan "costs so much less" than her plan. She'd spend $2 trillion a year.

Sanders is again the biggest spender. He'd spend $3 trillion of your money on his "Medicare for All" plan.

Welfare

In this category, Biden, to his credit, plans no new spending.

But Buttigieg has been cranking out lots of new promises, like $45 billion for "affordable housing" and $27 billion to expand Social Security payments beyond what people paid in.

Warren would also spend more on "affordable housing" and give kids more food stamps.

Sanders "wins" again. He promises to guarantee everyone a job, provide "housing for all," and give more people food stamps.

Miscellaneous

Then there's spending that doesn't neatly fit into major categories, like Biden's plans for new foreign aid for Central America, Sanders' high-speed internet, Buttigieg's expanding national service programs like the Peace Corps, and Warren's plan to force government to buy only American-made products.

Finally, we found a spending category that Sanders doesn't win. With $130 billion in new plans, Biden wins the "miscellaneous" round.

And what about that incumbent Republican?

Donald Trump once talked about "cutting waste," but government spending rose more than half a trillion dollars during his first three years.

Now Trump wants $267 billion in new spending for things like infrastructure and "access to high-quality, affordable childcare."

At least Trump wants to spend less than the Democrats.

Biden and Buttigieg would double Trump's increase. Warren would quadruple it. She'd increase spending by almost $3 trillion.

But Bernie Sanders blows them all out of the water, with nearly $5 trillion in proposed new spending!

"I'm not denying we're going to spend a lot of money," he admits.

He'll probably win in Iowa next week. Whoever wins… taxpayers lose.

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  1. It doesn’t matter because none of them have any chance of becoming the POTUS but do they and their followers not understand how spending works in federal government? Do they know all spending starts in the House? Has anyone asked them what if the Republicans control one of the houses?

    1. Yeah written on a document nobody bothers to follow anymore.

    2. pfft, are you kidding? The republicans, win? Everyone knows that Trump was just a 1 in a million outlier, and that the Republicans won’t be able to win from here on out, after all, all the good minorities are going to outnumber the evil whities soon, how can they win then? And even if they somehow find enough race traitors, the Democrat’s superior moral authority allows them to spy and rig the election if need be. /sarc

    3. They are going to rule by decree, despite their party’s position that Trump should be removed from office for making decisions sans approval of the legislature.

  2. Nice article. Not like all the other crap Reason has been selling.

  3. Presidential Candidates Promise Freebies for Everyone

    Trump now promises ANOTHER deficit-busting tax cut — having already become the absolute worst President EVER on debt — despite having campaigned on paying off the entire debt in 8 years!

    Deranged Trumptard SUCKERS, like Rand Paul, say “tax cuts let me keep more of my own money” — too fucking stupid to know they’re stealing money from their own children and grandchildren, without their consent. DUH

    Democrats borrow trillions to pay for free stuff.
    Republicans borrow MORE trillions to pay for free tax cuts.

    Trump’s economy is now growing SLOWER than what he inherited from Obama. (Obama’s final three years, vs Trump’s first three).

    Remember when Stossel was a news reporter, not a shill for the alt-right?

    1. The people stealing the money are not those refusing to have their hard earned money taken, but those taking and spending it.

      I suspect the distinction is hard to grasp for a fascist like you who lives on government handouts in a rundown apartment in a bad part of town.

      1. RIGHT-WING **MOOCH** (NOYB2) IS TOO FUCKING STUPID TO KNOW WHAT FEDERAL DEBT IS!

        1) FEDERAL DEBT IS STEALING FROM HIS OWN CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN … WITHOUT THEIR VOTE … TO LINE HIS OWN POCKET …. JUST AS CRAZY AS I SAID.

        2) TRUMP IS THE WORST PRESIDENY *EVER* ON ADDING NEW DEBT … AFTER INHERITING THE LONGEST EXPANSION *EVER* … WORSE THAN EVEN OBAMA, WHO INHERITED THE SECOND WORSE ECONOMY SINCE WORLD WAR II ..

        3) BUT TRUMP’S ECONOMY IS STILL GROWING SLOWER THAN WHAT OBAMA LEFT HIM!!!

        Trumtards be as eagerly brainwashed as Bernietards and Elizabethtards (smirk)

        Left – Right = Zero

        1. “”2) TRUMP IS THE WORST PRESIDENY *EVER* ON ADDING NEW DEBT””

          You mean the democrat controlled house? Approved by the republican controlled senate, of course.

          Trump can’t have any spending that Congress doesn’t approve.

            1. That’s the most compelling argument you’ve made in years.

              1. Who proposed it all, dumbfuck … and brags of achieving it?
                (smirk)

      2. What? Did Hihn get upgraded from living under the overpass next to the library?

        1. It’s like Flowers For Algernon. He’ll eventually sink back into his old self.

          1. Only not very much like it. Because in the story Charlie became smart.

    2. True,they should run a balanced budget. But the Donkeys will borrow even more if they get their way.

      The economy is growing faster and worker participation is higher than at any time in O’bama’s term.

      1. If you are paying attention, the elephants have done no better than the donkeys, and often times much worse.
        https://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/daniel-mitchell/numbers-dont-lie-republicans-are-bigger-spenders-democrats
        Remember every “freebie” is payed for by the taxpayers.

        1. Another retarded fuck who tries to claim the president is who controls spending growth.

          1. ANOTHER crazed Trumptard who says Tax-Cuts-With-No-Spending-Cuts …. DOES NOT INCREASE DEFICITS.

            PAY ATTENTION.
            +$150 Revenues
            – $200 Expenses
            = $50 deficit

            CUT TAXES
            +$100 Revenues
            – $200 Expenses
            = $100 DEFICIT

            DEFICIT IS $50 MORE = $50 TAX CUT. Am I going too fast, Gomer?

            BUT REPUBLICANS ALSO INCREASED SPENDING!!!!
            +$100 Revenues
            – $220 Expenses
            =$120 Deficit

            DO THE MATH, SLUGGO.
            Deficit increases $70
            $50 tax cut + $20 higher spending ALSO EQUALS $70!!! (gasp)

            TAX CUTS INCREASE DEFICITS, IF NOT OFFSET BY SPENDING CUTS
            HIGHER SPENDING INCREASES DEFICITS IF NOT OFFSET BY HIGHER TAXES.

            HEY, DUMMY, TRUMP CAMPAIGNED ON BOTH THE TAX CUTS AND HIGHER SPENDING … APPROVED BY HIS OWN PARTY (except the Trump’s proposed 60% tax cut for HIMSELF, which even Republicans REJECTED!

          2. ANOTHER CRAZED FUCKUP BY JESSEAZ!!!!
            They NEVER end!

            If you are paying attention,….

            And not a lying sack of shit

            the elephants have done no better than the donkeys, and often times much worse.

            Another retarded fuck who tries to claim the president is who controls spending growth.

            Says the RETARDED FUCK WHO DOESN’T KNOW THAT “ELEPHANTS AND DONKEYS” ARE … POLITICAL PARTIES, NOT PRESIDENTS …. (sneer) …. specifically, Republicans and Democrats … IN THAT ORDER, Gomer.

    3. Wow.. you just said letting people keep their own earnings is the same as government spending. Do you believe all money generated is the government’s? Statist fuck.

      1. If there is a surplus tax cuts are not spending, but when we are running deficits I consider tax cuts as more spending. If you are not paying your bills you can not in good faith give a tax cut.

      2. HOW FUCKING STUPID IS JESSEAZ (like all Trumptards)

        Wow.. you just said letting people keep their own earnings is the same as government spending.

        YES, YOU CRAZY RETARD.

        A $50 BILLION TAX CUT INCREASES THE DEBT BY $50 BILLION …. IDENTICAL TO $50 BILLION IN HIGHER SPENDING!!!

        *****IT’S NOT KEEPING YOUR OWN MONEY, FUCKSTICK, IF IT MUST BE BORROWED …. FROM YOUR OWN CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN … WITHOUT THEIR VOTE.

        PLUS, GENIUS, TRUMP’S GOP DID BOTH
        1) TAX CUTS WITH NO SPENDING CUTS
        2) HIGHER SPENDONG ALSO PAID BY DEBT, NOT HIGHER TAXES.

        PROVED IT TO YOU HERE, IN DETAIL, GOOBER, TO YOUR ORIGINAL FUCKUP ON THIS.
        https://reason.com/2020/01/29/presidential-candidates-promise-freebies-for-everyone/#comment-8106646

        Do you believe all money generated is the government’s? Statist fuck.

        1. Wow. You’re in full-on rage mode today. Skipping your meds again?

          1. Just ridiculing crazy assholes like you, who BELEEB …
            If the budget is balanced, a $50 billion tax cut will NOT cause a deficit!!! (snort)

    4. As far as I’m concerned the more they spend the sooner the Great Collapse happens.

  4. Just to be clear, it is candidates for the democratic nomination, not for President. (yet)

    1. They are ALL candidates for President, which is WHY they are competing for the nomination!

      Is there an IQ test for Trumpsters? MUST be under 75? Same rule as Bernie’s Bots!

      Left – Right = Zero.

      1. So everyone is a candidate for the presidency?

        1. Even Hihn. Although the 25th Amendment would kick in pretty fast if he pulled it off.

          1. EVERYONE is running for the DNC nomination! … per TWO goobers!! (so far)

            1. PURPLE – SPAGHETTI = LAMPSHADE

              1. Now you go TOTALLY off the rails! (smirk)

        2. So everyone is a candidate for the presidency?

          So everyone is a candidate for the Democrat nomination? (snort)

  5. “Presidential Candidates Promise Freebies for Everyone”

    Hmm. I can’t see any of these “freebies” listed as relating to me. I bet there are a lot of others in the same boat.

    1. They will be providing you with free housing, bread and water and a little more education if you keep that up.

    2. TRUMP is promising freebies to more people.
      Yet another tax cuts, when he’s already the worst President EVER on adding new debt,

      Worse than even Obama, who inherited the second worst economy since WWII … but handed Trump the longest recovery EVER for an incoming President.

      1. Very few people think the government needs more of their money. You however, may feel free to write a check to the treasury.

        1. GOOBER ALERT: Cowardly diversion
          VERY few people are stupid enough to “think” that tax cuts DO NOT increase the deficit, if not matched with spending cuts.,

          VERY few are too stupid to KNOW that means piling debt and taxes onto their children, without their vote, Sluggo

          The math, which needs only elementary school arithmetic, is laid out here for Trumptards,. Find a 12-year-old to help you grasp it.

          https://reason.com/2020/01/29/presidential-candidates-promise-freebies-for-everyone/#comment-8106646
          (smirk)

  6. The Top Five Contributors to National Debt by Percentage
    Franklin D. Roosevelt: President Roosevelt had the largest percentage increase. Although he only added $236 billion, this was a 1,048% increase from the $23 billion debt level left by President Herbert Hoover. The Great Depression took an enormous bite out of revenues. The New Deal cost billions. But the biggest cost was World War II. It added $209 billion to the debt between 1942 and 1945.3

    Woodrow Wilson: President Wilson was the second-largest contributor to the debt, percentage-wise. He added $21 billion, which was a 727% increase over the $2.9 billion debt of his predecessor. Wilson had to pay for World War I. During his presidency, the Second Liberty Bond Act gave Congress the right to adopt the national debt ceiling.

    Ronald Reagan: President Reagan increased the debt by 186%. Reaganomics added $1.86 trillion. Reagan’s brand of supply-side economics didn’t grow the economy enough to offset the lost revenue from its tax cuts. Reagan also increased the defense budget by 35%.3

    George W. Bush: President Bush added $5.849 trillion, the second-greatest dollar amount. This was a 101% increase, the fourth-largest percentage increase. Bush launched the War on Terror in response to the 9/11 attacks. It includes the War in Afghanistan, at $1.1 trillion, and the Iraq War, at $1 trillion. Military spending rose to a record level of $800 billion a year.
    2008 financial crisis: Approved a $700 billion bailout package for banks.

    Both Presidents Bush and Obama also had to contend with higher mandatory spending for Social Security and Medicare.

    Barack Obama: Under President Obama, the national debt grew the most dollar-wise. He added $8.588 trillion. This 74% increase was the fifth-largest. Obama fought the Great Recession with the $831 billion economic stimulus package.

    Obama increased defense spending to $855 billion. He sponsored the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

    Donald Trump
    FY 2020 – $1.281 trillion
    FY 2019 – $1.260 trillion
    FY 2018 – $1.271 trillion

     US Debt by President by Dollar and Percentage

    1. It would also be interesting to find out which Congress’ passed veto-proof budgets.

      Trump has had veto-proof budgets that he signed.

      1. Trump has had veto-proof budgets that he signed.

        1) Part of the WORST President on debt EVER!

        2) Is that why voters threw his party’s ass out of a House majority?

        3) You’re full of shit AGAIN. The President’s own party rejected the 2019 budget as a bribe to Democrats, by repealing Obama’s spending caps, and suspending the debt ceiling. And you can’t even do the junior high calculation of a 2/3 majority.

        GOP leaders — despite a boost from President Donald Trump — scrambled to round up Republican backing in the hours before the House passed the two-year, $2.7 trillion agreement on a 284-149 vote … Only 65 out of 197 House Republicans ended up voting for the measure, rejecting the pleas from Trump and their own leadership. Democrats noticed.

        DEMOCRATS noticed, by this Trumptard did not!! *smirk*

        It would also be interesting to find out which Congress’ passed veto-proof budgets.

        Not really (yawn)

        Being informed, knowledge and facts … vs copy-pasting from … Breitbart? Daily Caller? Stormfront? WND? … on issues you clearly know nothing about. You never change,

    2. LC1789 ….. STILL the craziest MoFo on the board!

      1) Repeats Progressive BULLSHIT to smear Reagan with psycho lies.
      2) OBVIOUS bullshit on Trump’s debt — retard compares Trump’s 3 years to every other President’s EIGHT years, HOW STUPID IS THAT?
      3) FAILS to adjust Obama’s debt for BUSH2’s TARP bailouts,

      Ronald Reagan: President Reagan increased the debt by 186%. Reaganomics added $1.86 trillion. Reagan’s brand of supply-side economics didn’t grow the economy enough to offset the lost revenue from its tax cuts. Reagan also increased the defense budget by 35%.Educate yourself, dumbass. Reagan was elected for 1) the tax cuts
      2) Huge pending cuts that YOUR GOP buried
      3) New Federalism, MASSIVE reform to add accountability to safety net spending, ALSO fucked up by YOUR GOP.
      —-
      A) Google “Grace Commission”
      — hand-on business managers went out into the Departments, to see where spending could ACTUALLY be cut, SAFELY … NO CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEES BLOWING SMOKE OUT THEIR ASS … NO RAND PAUL BULLSHIT BUDGETS. THEY PROPOSED SPENDING CUTS THAT WOULD HAVE TOTALLED OVER $10 TRILLION THROUGH THE YEAR 2000 …. BURIED IN A GOP SENATE … SO REAGAN BEGAN TALKING ABOUT A LINE-ITEM VETO, AGAINST HIS OWN (AND YOUR) PARTY. And that’s just ONE of your fuckups here!

      B) Now Google, New Federalism, a MAJOR reform. Premise: less important WHICH level of government manages programs. BIGGEST problem is that ALL safety net programs are managed by 2-4 levels of government … which means NOBODY can be accountable for ANYTHING … that’s intentional Goober. New Federalism would START consolidating programs at a single level … The feds would take ALL of Medicaid, States would manage ALL welfare and food stamps. In addition to this swap, Federal would transfer more than 40 education, transportation and social service programs to the states while creating a $28 billion trust fund to help pay for the programs. The trust fund would be gradually scaled down and would finally end in 1991 — WHICH IS HOW REPUBLICANS FUCKED *THAT* UP! States would get spending obligations forever, but only temporary funding. So states refused. DUH.

      ***OBVIOUS BULLSHIT ON TRUMP’S RUINOUS DEFECITS

      Donald Trump
      FY 2020 – $1.281 trillion
      FY 2019 – $1.260 trillion
      FY 2018 – $1.271 trillion

      FUCKUP! Check the CBO debt forecast for 2024 — for Trump’s CURRENT 8-year debt … roughly $10 trillion in new debt, MORE THAN OBAMA — And Obama started from the 2nd worst economy since WWII, and handed Trump THE LONGEST RECOVERY *EVER* for an incoming President.
      ****And the crazy asshole just announced ANOTHER UNPAID TAX CUT to be proposed (because the original tax cut FAILED, and COULD NOT have restored our Industrial Base.

      Knowledge and facts trump your tribal bullshit again, (Pun intended)

    3. You know you have upset unreason and Lefties when Hihn attacks.

      1. PROVING LC1789 full of shit is … an attack! *SNORT*
        The same guy who smears Reagan with CRAZED Proggie Bullshit!

        1) Did he google his MASSIVE Grace Commission FUCKUP? .Reagan proposed spending cuts which would have saved $10 Trillion by 2000 … BURIED IN A REPUBLICAN SENATE!

        2) Did he google his EQUALLY MAASIVE FUCKUP on New Federalism? Consolidate all safety net programs at ONE level of government (now 2-4 levels, which leaves NOBODY accountable, but Slickster1789 NEVER HEARD OF IT!!y ),

        lc1789 = PROUD sucker at the Gummint Deficit Teat … ONLY if it lines his own pocket.

        MOAR proof!

        Behold the Self-Righteous Hypocrisy of loveconstitution1789 …. slurping at the gummint teat! … Why? …. HE’S ENTITLED!!

        <a href="https://reason.com/2018/02/18/a-cure-for-mass-shootings-doesnt-exist/#comment-7141520

        My retired father loves politics and we often discuss the nature of things.

        I cannot get him to openly discuss social security and medicare reform with cuts. He is just hoping to check out before our debt crushes the USA. Its selfish as shit.

        TROLL says more crushing debt is okay .. if it lines HIS pocket!

        Insults HIS OWN FATHER, “selfish as shit” … DEFENDS his own teat-sucking (OMG) … HIS FATHER PAID FOR HIS OWN BENEFITS …

        So WHO is selfish as shit … LC1789’s father …. or the father of LC1789’s children? (vomit)

        WHINES that a multi-trillion debt increase is “giving my own money back ” … FROM WHERE, GOOBER???

        BY STEALING FROM HIS OWN CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN .
        What kind of fiscal conservative DENIES that federal debt steals from our future … from their own children? … WITHOUT THEIR VOTE!

        Brainwashed Republican goobers … as DANGEROUS as … brainwashed Bernie goobers

        HE’D CUT HIS FATHER’S BENEFITS .. AND STEAL FROM HIS OWN KIDS … TO INCREASE HIS CASH, BECAUSE … HE’S “ENTITLED.” …. a self-righteous MOOCH

        The left borrows trillions for free stuff
        The right borrows trillions for free tax cuts
        Two sides of the same statist coin.

        Left – Right = Zero

        Will this “trigger” the precious snowflake again?

      2. You know you have upset unreason and Lefties when Hihn attacks.

        LC1789 is pissed … PISSED … that his own source says he’s full of shit about ….. his own source!

        How can there POSSIBLY be a more blatant liar?

        SEE Trump’s MAASIVE fiscal failure here
        https://reason.com/2020/01/29/presidential-candidates-promise-freebies-for-everyone/#comment-8110713

        Then LC1789’s link to confirm *I* quoted it accurately.
        PLUS, the goobers who will say I did not. 🙂 🙂

    4. MOAR BULLSHT BY LC1789 … LIED ABOUT HIS OWN SOURCE!!
      TO BURY ANOTHER MASSIVE TRUMP FAILURE.

      Barack Obama: Under President Obama, the national debt grew the most dollar-wise. He added $8.588 trillion.

      Donald Trump: Trump plans to add $5.088 trillion to the debt in his first term.8 That’s a 25% increase from the $20.245 trillion debt at the end of Obama’s last budget for FY 2017. If he remains in office for a second term, he plans to add $9.1 trillion for both terms. Trump had promised to eliminate the debt during his campaign.

      Hey, LC1789, you also missed that Trump promised to pay off the ENTIRE debt in EIGHT YEARS. Instead he’s ALREADY added more new 8-year debt than Obama added AFTER 8 years …. as I’ve been saying for MONTHS … and …

      1) Obama inherited the second worst recession since the Great Depression
      .
      2) Trump inherited the longest expansion EVER for an incoming President … FROM OBAMA! …. Despite Obama’s gift. Trump’s economy is growing SLOEWER than what Obama handed him! (compared with Obama’s final three)

      3) GDP growth for 2019 just announced …. slower than 2018!!!

  7. [Sanders] also demands that government give everyone child care and pre-K.

    How about free dementia care?

    1. Medicare.
      Medicaid.
      Obamacare.

  8. At first glance I read Frisbees.

  9. I just can’t help feeling that they could do more. I mean we really need to up our spending game. Don’t we deserve more?

    1. Good point. I had roasted chicken last night because I didn’t want to drop three times as much money on steak. The Democrat who promises free New York Strip for all gets my vote!

    2. Have the liberals bastards proposed MORE freebies and MORE debt than the worst fiscal President EVER (Donald J Trump)?

      1. Show us on the doll where the bad orange man touched you.

        1. COWARDLY DIVERSION.

  10. “as I write this, the smart money says it’s the candidate who’s promised Americans the most “free” stuff.”

    Here is the problem. It is not the candidates its the voters. Until we are ready to accept a boring candidate who says they will keep the books and mind the store we are doomed to more spending.

    1. A good portion of the responsibility for this is that enough of the electorate is corrupt and think they have a right to other people’s resources and skills without those people’s consent.

      1. An interesting idea but the fact is you could make this claim about a lot of people and different groups. What about the company that thinks it can pave over a wetland that functions as a recharge zone for a cities water supply. Is that company making a claim on the resources of others? This is just an example but I think the idea that people wanting other peoples resource and skills could apply across most of the population.

        1. Why did a city sell land to a private developer if the land was needed for the water supply.

          Sounds like government incompetence to me.

          1. As I noted this is just an example to show that it is possible to see any group as taking resources from others. There is nothing to suggest the city sold the land to the developer. I can think of areas that were farm land at one time. As farm land they served the farmers purpose and at the same time served the purpose of aquifer recharge zone. Now a developer buys the land and will add house and roadways that will significantly affect recharge area. Does this fit MR definition of people taking other people resource?

            1. You folks need to learn what Consent of the Governed means, or emigrate. Even Ayn Rand ridiculed your authoritarian mentalities.
              Yep, you’re too extreme for EVEN AYN RAND!

              1. And what is your point? Does Consent of the Governed mean we get all the freebies we want? If not then what?

                1. And what is your point?

                  That you’re an authoritarian …. and …

                  Does Consent of the Governed mean we get all the freebies we want?

                  …. a lying sack of shit … who just proved my point (witlessly)

                  Democrats borrow trillions to pay for free stuff.
                  Republicans borrow trillions to pay for free tax cuts.
                  Two sides of the same authoritarian coin.
                  Each supported by ignorant puppets, dancing on the strings of the political elites.

                  1. I do not believe I am authoritative. I proved a hypothetical situation to show that any side can make the case that some group is getting a freebie at others expense. My original point stands, we the voter must look to a more boring technocrat politician who will get work done and not promise us flash and freebies. I don’t know if that is possible?

                    1. I do not believe I am authoritative.

                      NOW you’re a even BIGGER liar!!

                      Your authoritarian “mind” was WHAT I QUOTED YOU SAYING .. not what you lied about HERE. … which is even more pathetic than your DUMBFUCK QUESTION:

                      Does Consent of the Governed mean we get all the freebies we want?

                      It means you being a dictator is another of your delusions.

                      Other than the FAKE “moderation” dude … who else has NO CLUE what “consent of the governed” means ???????

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  12. Well, if we’re gonna spend it, I’d rather have US get the money and not rich billionaires who are just gonna hide it all offshore anyhow.

      1. Lefties like this troll wearingit are so funny.

        What are non-American billionaires hiding their money “offshore” in the USA, chopped liver?

    1. Do you mean the “rich billionaires” who subsidize roughly half of the ENTIRE personal income tax burden for the core middle class ($40-100k?)

      Do your jaws ever get tired, sucking so hard on the gummint teat?

    2. … Because NONE of those “rich billionaires” are the result of “billionaire” politicians and a government that funnels/dictates 1/3 of the peoples wealth. /s

  13. Serious question: how can we maintain a true democracy and a massive welfare state? And even a semblance of a market economy?

    Would weighting individual votes by net taxes paid help?

  14. Yes, that would help. But how to pass laws that repeal the massive subsidies to our middle-class, which VOTES FOR big government, without having to pay for it?

  15. It is easy for a politician to “promise” beyond the world but the delivery on that promise is totally a different thing. Unfortunately the voters have a very short memory or are very gullible. To start with the government has no money of its own, all it has is what it takes form its citizens. So to full fill these promises the government would have to take form those who have to give to those that don’t have and maybe never attempted to have.
    The difficulty here is to fulfill all of these promises the government would have to take all the money in the US and would have to sell off the assets to obtain enough to start the fulfillment. The more people that are on entitlements the fewer people there is to earn money to pay for those entitlements. This would mean the system is self-defeating and would soon cause this nation to become like one of the third world nations unless it was aborted early. I am afraid, though, that there are some citizens and residents are more than willing to sacrifice this nation if they don’t have to work to get what they want. But when that happens it will be too late for the US when that happens because there many nations in this world who would like to poke their finger in the US’s eye or worse to give the US a big kick right in balls. China and Russia are just two of them.

    1. To start with the government has no money of its own, all it has is what it takes form its citizens.

      With their consent, Gomer. When do you plan the coup to assume your dictatorship???

      The difficulty here is to fulfill all of these promises the government would have to take all the money in the US and would have to sell off the assets to obtain enough to start the fulfillment.

      We need MORE hysteria from the loony right!

      Educate yourself on liberty. Umm, what happened BEFORE the welfare state. The disadvantaged got MORE support than now, DUH. Including universal medical treatment, regardless of age or income — SINCE THE 1500s! Were THOSE dollars created by magic mushrooms? (Yeah, your math is loony)

  16. Oh, hells yeah! If the dims win, I’m quitting my job. They’ll have to take care of me. They promised!

    Haha.

    1. Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Best Point Made goes to you…

      I’ve been there. I’m sure if everyone was honest with themselves they would conclude that they’ve either considered or done exactly that. When government makes it so society concludes reasonably that NOT ‘adding-value’ creates a better life for themselves than ‘adding-value’ the recipe of disaster is already been started.

    2. So did Trump. sucker.

      Did YOU swallow his fucking lie … to pay off the entire federal debt in 8 years … but he’s already THE worst President EVER on adding new debts …and just promised ANOTHER tax cut for your ignorant ass???

      Did YOU swallow his original tax cut proposal … a 60% tax cut for HIMSELF (and a handful of rich cronies? He’d have been a billionaires, with a TOP income tax rate of … 15 fucking percent! WHAT’S YOUR INCOME TAX RATE, SUCKER? (lol)

      “Nobody ever went broke, underestimating the intelligence of American voters.” (Brainwashed slugs)

      1. In the fantasy land of “Not Stealing” = “Giving”.

        1. COWARDLY DIVERSION —
          LIES ABOUT WHAT I SAID —
          DEFENDS TRUMP PAYIHNG A LOWER TAX RATE THAN 35-40% OF HIS VOTERS …
          ON TOP OF TRUMP’S LOOPHOLE/EXEMPTION FROM THE CORPORATE INCOME TAX …..
          AND DEFENDS CRONYISM AGAINST EQUAL RIGHTS!!!

          And exposed HIS “STEALING” bullshit HERE …
          https://reason.com/2020/01/29/presidential-candidates-promise-freebies-for-everyone/#comment-8108601
          As he WHINES about stealing …. while DEFENDING HIS OWN STEALING from future generations …. DENYING THEM ANY VOTE ON THE TAXES AND DEBT THAT PAYS FOR HIS THEFT!!!! … a TOTAL AUTHORITARIAN HYPOCRITE! (vomit)

  17. Bang on…

    Same freebee culture is rampant in India. Indian politicians are promising even free televisions, free rice etc.
    Tax payers are the worst hit.

    Kyonce Don
    https://www.higher-low-day-trading.com/ -Founder

    1. How is that any crazier than ANOTHER free tax cut from the Donald, who’s already the worst President EVER on adding new debt.

      1. Only in the fantasy land of “Not Stealing” = “Giving”.
        Can someone put the word “free” before the words tax-cut.
        In the real world the words tax-cut = cut-stealing

        1. THANKS FOR PROVING MY POINT! I shall now call you out ….

          1) Tax cuts are NOT stealing, except to AUTHORITARIAN RETARDS who SNEER at Consent of the Governed. Do YOU so sneer?

          2) Here, “free” means the dozens of retarded right-wing imbeciles on this page …. WHO SAY TAX CUTS DO NOT REQUIRE SPENDING CUTS TO AVOID DEFICITS …. SELF-RIGHTEOUS MORAL HYPOCRITES .. . who whine like PUSSIES about “stealing” … while DEFENDING THEIR OWN STEALING … FROM THEIR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN … WHO HAVE NO VOTE ON THE DEBT AND TAXES IMPOSED BY YOU AUTHORITARIAN THUGS. ,

          3) The same assholes who DEFEND Trump being the worst President EVER on adding new debt … ALREADY as much new debt as Obama added AFTER 8 years … even though Obama GIFTED Trump with the longest recovery EVER for an incoming President …. AND TRUMP JUST PROPOSED EVEN MORE MORE NEW UNPAID TAX CUTS …. TO BUY YET MORE VOTES .

          Why is it NOT a MASSIVE fiscal FAILURE … to start from the longest expansion EVER … then EXPLODE the debt??? …. MORE DEBT THAN OABAMA, FOR SLOWER GDP GROWTH THAN OABAMA HANDED HIM?

          **** NEVER lecture a REAL libertarian on liberty.

          P.S. Are you also one who SCREECHES that a free people have NO RIGHT to form VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATIONS (like Rotary, Kiwanis, a garden club … or a government)???? THAT would make you too wacky for even Ayn Rand, who INVENTED the moral philosophy of liberty!

          Anything else? 🙂

          (In all fairness, this likely whooooooshed right over his head, so he can now only make an even bigger public fool of himself. So sad, but Left – Right STILL = Zero.)

  18. TRUMP ALLIES ARE HANDING OUT CASH TO BLACK VOTERS!
    Organizers have begun holding events in black communities where they lavish praise on the president while handing out thousands of dollars in giveaways.

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