Gun Control

March For Our Lives Calls for Confiscating Guns, Investigating the NRA, and 'Reforming' the Supreme Court

The gun control group's new policy proposal is radical, intersectional, and deeply contradictory.

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March For Our Lives wants sweeping gun control, and a lot of other things too. On Wednesday, the group released its Peace Plan for a Safer America with the ambitious goal of reducing gun deaths and injuries by 50 percent in 10 years.

"You see these shootings on TV every day and very little happening around it. It's painful to watch," David Hogg, a survivor of the 2018 Parkland shooting and co-founder of March For Our Lives, told the Washington Post. "I think that this plan is something that we can truly—as a country and as Americans united against violence and fighting for peace—can get behind."

The plan Hogg expects the country to get behind includes radical changes to America's gun laws, the federal government, and the U.S. Constitution itself. It would start by creating a national gun licensing system.

"It should at least be as difficult to buy and transfer a firearm as it is to buy and transfer an automobile," reads the plan before going on to describe a licensing system that would be far more onerous than anything that currently exists for owning a car.

A person looking to get a firearm license would have to go through an in-person interview, provide personal references, and complete "rigorous" gun safety training. Law enforcement bodies would oversee this process, and applicants would have to re-complete it annually in order to maintain a license.

Once an applicant secures one of these federal gun licenses, they will have to pay unspecified licensing fees that would pay for the costs of this national licensing system and also pay for the general costs of gun violence.

Higher fees would be charged for bulk purchases of ammunition and firearms, which seems somewhat redundant given that people would be limited to one gun purchase a month. Online sales would be banned and a 10-day waiting period for gun sales would be imposed.

The types of firearms one could purchase would also be restricted. Both "assault weapons" and "high-capacity magazines" (two terms which go undefined in the March For Our Lives plan) would be banned. Products that fit those descriptions that are currently in private hands would be subject to confiscation through a mandatory gun buyback program.

In addition to these direct limitations on gun ownership, the Peace plan would also beef up the federal bureaucracy's ability to go after gun owners. A new National Director of Gun Violence Prevention position would be created. This director would report directly to the president and coordinate a multi-agency response to halving gun deaths and injuries over 10 years.

The March For Our Lives proposal also calls on state and local authorities to go beyond federal efforts and pass their own, stricter gun laws.

Civil libertarians might be concerned that creating an onerous national licensing system, banning common weapons already in circulation, and then directing the federal government to enforce all these new laws might make criminals out of millions of responsible gun owners.

To assuage these fears, the March For Our Lives plan also includes a few planks intended to deal with the "intersectional dimensions of gun violence." The group's new gun violence czar would work with local police departments "to better train officers in implicit bias, conflict resolution, and crisis intervention."

Incredibly, their plan seems to assume that the more gun laws we have, the less policing we'll need.

"The more successful we are with stronger gun policies, the fewer firearms enter the illegal market, and the lower the footprint of the criminal justice system in people's lives," reads the March For Our Lives plan. Perhaps we could also reduce the number of narcotics officers by more zealously prosecuting the drug war?

By suggesting we can have strict gun control and enhanced civil liberties protections, March For Our Lives ignores the history of New York City's 'stop-and-frisk' program that was intended, in part, to get more guns off the streets, but ended up providing police with a legal justification for routinely harassing and humiliating the city's black and brown residents.

A few constitutional sticklers might point out that most of what the March For Our Lives folks want to do would be open to constitutional challenges. Others might say it's politically unrealistic.

Not to worry! March For Our Lives has a plan for that, too.

On the political side of things, the group calls for crushing the National Rifle Association (NRA). The NRA, their plan says, should have its tax-exempt status investigated by the IRS, and its campaign donations investigated by the Federal Election Commission.

The landmark D.C. v Heller Supreme Court decision, which confirmed that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to gun ownership, would be "reexamined" by the Department of Justice, and more federal judges skeptical of gun rights would be appointed.

This Peace proposal also calls for having a national conversation about reforming the Supreme Court in order to prevent "partisan political influence and interference"—i.e. decisions protecting gun rights.

March For Our Lives' single-minded focus on reducing the number of guns in America ignores the fact that violent crime rates have fallen to record low levels across much of the country even as the number of guns and gun owners has increased dramatically.

The specific policy interventions its calls for, from assault weapons bans to expanded background checks, would do little to deter violence. Their plan is also hopelessly contradictory by promising both criminal justice reform and a sweeping array of new violations for which Americans can be arrested and imprisoned.

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    1. As abolitionists go, March For Our Lives has its priorities wrong-

      Lawyers belong at the head of the queue, before guns and money.

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    2. Secretive warfare training being staged in 21 North Carolina counties, Army says

      The students will match wits with more seasoned soldiers, who will “act as realistic opposing forces and guerrilla freedom fighters,” officials said in a release.

      Interesting choice of words to train US Special Forces to fight and kill guerillas who support freedom.

      1. Robin Sage is the capstone exercise of Army special forces training and has been for some time, so this exercise is a regular occurence in NC counties that are relatively close to Ft. Bragg. A few years ago some of the participants confronted a sheriff’s deputy who was not up to speed that the exercise was ongoing. The soldiers were using weapons with blank suppressors and the officer shot and killed both of them. Putting the message that the exercise is occuring in the media is part of the effort to try and make sure that never happens again.

      2. Opposing forces AND guerilla freedom fighters. The SF will be helping the guerillas.

        1. Correct. In the Robin Sage exercise I was made aware of last year, the Pineland Guerilla cosplayers were the good guys allied with the Special Forces trainers.

    3. They’ve gone way off the deep end on this one. I read the document and it is clear that they see mere GUN OWNERSHIP as immoral, much less semi-automatics and >10rd magazines.

      1. Almost no one ever comments on the fact that the Founders were very concerned about a despotic regime in the future, one that needed to be overthrown — perhaps by force of arms. This is one reason for the Second Amendment.

        As Jefferson put it, “The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants” (1787).

        Have we become so complacent that we cannot foresee the day when Americans might need rifles, semi-automatics, and other weaponry now used for occasional mass murders for a larger purpose: to depose a tyrannical government? (BTW, I hope that any future revolution, if needed, will be fought a la Ghandi — non-violently. Unfortunately, that’s not how history has played out except in India and a few other places.)

        1. People do comment on it. Unfortunately, some people armed with rifles can’t do much against tanks, landmines, and bombs dropped from the air, or full-auto machine guns when the civilians have only semi-auto. So use of the Second Amendment as an effective check on a tyrannical central government doesn’t seem too probable.

          1. Except for the fact that in a no-kidding civil war, the likelihood of the US military remaining an unbroken force is not very substantial, considering the percentage of manpower that comes from the south is a significant plurality. Not to mention the National Guard units that might tell the feds to fuck off instead of mobilizing.

            1. Liberals like to throw around the “you’d never win” argument because none of them have the foggiest of f*cking ideas about asymmetrical warfare.

              They think military bases surrounded by enemies are perfectly safe. They believe tanks, airplanes, drones, etc. all refuel and rearm themselves. They think that supply chains are invincible. They think the absurd number of defense contractors would still fulfill deliveries of supplies to the military during a civil war.

              In short, they’re all goddamn idiots.

  2. This Peace proposal also calls for having a national conversation about reforming the Supreme Court in order to prevent “partisan political influence and interference”—i.e. decisions protecting gun rights.

    How the hell can a majority of justices deciding a question be “interference?” They interfere with themselves?

    Oh, I know the answer–any result that reduces state power is nefarious “interference.”

    1. Oh, I know the answer–any result that reduces state power is nefarious “interference.”

      Any result that reduces state power dedicated for their own explicit purposes. That’s the difference.

      They’re basically demanding that teacher do something about those meanies who won’t share.

    2. Citizens forming organizations to petition the courts and congress is inappropriate political interference. But talking about changing the court in a highly partisan political way in order to get a desired outcome isn’t political interference at all. Makes sense.

  3. A bunch of children propose regulations that display the same low future time orientation and solipsistic mindset as a child.

    1. “A bunch of children propose regulations that display the same low future time orientation and solipsistic mindset as a child.”

      I see why those kids ALL vote Democrat. Universally. Not a kid in that group who doesn’t.

      1. Yep-just like the kid who brought on the plastic straw bans because they are killing the sea turtles. If you want a law passed, you really must enlist the kiddos. However, do not expect them to help if you want to get a law repealed. Kids only seem to want to expand the power of the state.

      2. Seems another young man, a former student of that same Parkland High School, who was actually THERE when the shooting happened, and actually lost some dear friends in the massacre, has come out in favour of training then allowing teachers and adult staff who want to, to carry on the job at school. That man has been shoved off into the corners because he is not a useful idiot like HoggBoyy is… his plan (the training and arming of teachers at school) has been effective in Ohio and some other states.. over two thousand school districts have put such plans in place and in the five or six years since that programme began NOT ONE FIREARM INCIDENT has been recorded in ANY school in those districts.
        Solid proof of a working cure is in existence, yet HoggBoy continues to stump for total disarmement of the 109,999,975 or so armed citizens across the land who have never shot an innocent person.

        HoggBoyy is the classic mental case, enabled and abetted by a very comfortable iving handed him, and plenty of time in the limelight.

    2. Did you just call Boss Hogg solipsistic? You take that back before I was your mouth out with soap.

      I looked it up. I still don’t know what it means.

      1. It means you think that you are the only thing that’s real.

        1. Thanks, Zeb!

        2. What a solipsistic definition of the word.

        3. like many of the editors here

        4. It is also a synonym for self-centered.

    3. This was inevitable. Those kids ain’t the ones who came up with crappy non-solutions like monthly lockdown drills and memes like ‘good guy with gun’.

      Proposing yet more crappy feel-good non-solutions just sends a wonderful confirmation signal — yes America, your children are as stupid and self-absorbed as you are.

      1. Demanding a solution assumes there’s a problem.

        This shit’s been going on in the inner cities for decades. It didn’t become a “problem” until autistic white people started acting like ghetto thugs.

        1. 100% this.

          “Crying white mothers are ratings gold to [the media]. And notice I said ‘crying white mothers’ because there are thousands of grieving black mothers in Chicago every weekend and you don’t see town halls for them, do you?”

      2. Ditto!

    4. Red….To be fair, David Hoggs IS a child. He went through a traumatic experience that few of us ever will. He is reacting to that in a positive way: advocating for his view in the public square.

      Now you and I don’t agree with much of anything this child is proposing. But give him props for having his position, and getting out there in the public square to persuade others.

      I hope that in time, he will heal: emotionally and spiritually.

      1. No he did not. He was in a different part of the school and never in danger. The only trauma he experienced was he was at school that day.

        1. The trauma he SHOULD be experiencing involves a leather belt across his bare ass about fifty times.

      2. Try to get an answer to the question whether Hogg was in Building 12 at Parkland that day.
        Raise that question.
        Google or Yahoo! the internet.

      3. Oh, bullshit. That smug little poser acts like he was weaving and ducking bullets. He wasn’t. If that little shit is a survivor of gun violence, then so am I for having been been across the street from a shooting, having been mugged at gun point twice and being two blocks away from where someone was shot and killed.

    5. English: solipsistic (adj)
      1. Of, relating to, or being disposed to solipsism.
      German: solipsistisch
      2. Self-centered, selfish.
      German: selbstbezogen

      One of them thar English words used to mean different things. Figure it out from context.

    6. Yes well said. Not sure why we are forced by many to accept these children who brains are not yet fully formed as articulate harbingers of constructive Constitutional meddling.

  4. “It should at least be as difficult to buy and transfer a firearm as it is to buy and transfer an automobile.”

    “It should at least be as difficult to buy and transfer a gallon of gasoline ….”

    “It should at least be as difficult to buy and transfer a fifth of vodka ….”

    “It should at least be as difficult to buy and transfer a pack of cigarettes ….”

    “It should at least be as difficult to buy and transfer a violent video game ….”

    “It should at least be as difficult to buy and transfer a pornographic novel ….”

    “It should at least be as difficult to buy and transfer a butcher knife ….”

    1. What they really want:

      “It should at least be as difficult to buy and transfer a firearm as it is to buy and transfer a nuclear weapon.”

    2. “It should at least be as difficult to buy and transfer a firearm as it is to buy and transfer an automobile.”

      I can buy a and transfer any car, without regard to size, weight, length, capacity, speed, or safety, to virtually anyone I like without a background check or driver’s license.

      It should at least be as difficult to buy and transfer a firearm to ISIS as it is to buy and transfer an automobile to ISIS.

      1. It is a formulation that is only bounded on one side. The relative ease of transferring a car is the minimum, the maximum is unlimited.

      2. I would argue that even this process does nothing to stop people from dying in automobile accidents. The number averages just over 40,000 per year. Considerably more than the less than a 100 per year (factoring out gang and criminally based mass shootings) mass shootings we experience in this country.

        1. We need common sense car regulation, like lowering all speed limits to 30 mph, and preventing anyone under 21 from driving after 9 PM.

    3. I will go with that. Just bought a truck and it took me 10 mins to transfer the title and other than signing the title, no paperwork. Takes longer than that to fill out the ATF paperwork when buying a gun.

      1. Yes even at a gun show the process takes 30 mins to an hour.

    4. But I don’t need drivers’ license, plates, or registered title if my car never leaves my private property. Don’t any of these gun-control knuckle-heads know that?

      1. You wouldn’t need them to drive your private property on a public thoroughfare either, if we had just voted for Badnarik back in the day.

  5. “The landmark D.C. v Heller Supreme Court decision, which confirmed that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to gun ownership, would be “reexamined” by the Department of Justice, and more federal judges skeptical of gun rights would be appointed.”

    The mask has fully slipped off, you fucking idiot authoritarian assholes.

    1. *Slips the judge $100* Keep it fair, keep it fair.

      1. Oh, I couldn’t…

        1. Slips the judge an extra $100.

          1. Hires 3 more judges to outvote the 5 of 9 who don’t agree with me.

            1. That’s the point where I go all 1776 on every politician, from every party, unless that politician has voted against his/her party donors to protect gun rights. Most of team red are closet grabbers waiting for their prime opportunity to screw over their constituency. All of team blue are openly hostile to the constitution. It’s about time the tree of liberty got refreshed.

    2. I’d say it already fully slipped off, when the Gangrene New Deal was proposed. (Of course it was only hanging by a thread at that point, anyway.)

    3. The mask has fully slipped off, you fucking idiot authoritarian assholes.

      At this point the masks are getting a bit Clouseau-esque.

    4. The justice department does not “re-examine” SCOTUS decisions. Clearly he was absent in civics class when they discussed the three branches of Federal govt and our system of checks and balances

  6. YAWN. When will these dim-witted, unschooled anti-gun nuts come up with something new and interesting? Oh wait, I think I just answered my own question.

  7. The gun control group’s new policy proposal is radical, intersectional, and deeply contradictory.

    Like “right-wing extremism”, it’s hard to see how this is “radical” when a large chunk of the electorate subscribes to outlawing guns and doing away with the 2nd Amendment.

    Oh, sure, they’ll all insist they’re not for outlawing guns altogether and they only want “reasonable, common sense” gun laws, but dig a little deeper and you’ll find that their definition of “reasonable, common sense” gun laws is “whatever it takes to stop people from killing each other” – and there isn’t any law on Earth capable of stopping people from killing each other. Whatever gun laws they get, there will be immediate calls for more and every step of the way to a total ban on weapons of any sort whatsoever will be accompanied by the plea for “reasonable, common sense” laws.

    1. Explains why the 10,000 gun laws already on the books are not sufficiently “reasonable, common sense”.

      1. I’d like to ask any of the grabbers:

        Background checks do stop people from getting guns illegally.

        So…why are NONE of those people ever prosecuted for trying to illegally obtain a firearm?

        What good are more laws if the ones there aren’t actually enforced?

        1. I recall Vice President Joe Biden being asked that, and the answer from the Obama Administration seemed to be that if the sale was stopped, the law worked. End of story.

          I wondered if the lack of prosecutions for perjury for every single blocked sale had more to do with hiding the number of blocked sales that were later reversed by a bureaucratic ‘never mind’ or a judge’s finding of fact.

        2. Bureau of Justice Statistics, Firearms Use by Offenders, surveys of prison inmates whose offense included carrying or using a gun in 2004:
          12% acquired guns through commercial sources (dealers expected to have FFLs using Form 4473 and doing BG checks);
          88% acquired guns through noncommercial sources (including 25% from drug/street dealers).

          1991 the figures were 21% commercial and 79% gray or black market.

          Enough time, enough gun control, it’ll be 0% commercial and 100% gray or black market.

          1. I plan on making millions selling black market guns during the impending boogaloo.

      2. That’s not enough, need 10,001.

    2. “a large chunk of the electorate subscribes to outlawing guns and doing away with the 2nd Amendment.”

      ~161 million members of the electorate voted in the 2016 election.
      ~103 million Americans own guns, and I suspect you will find a rather larger number disposed to defend and uphold the Bill of Rights, including the Second Amendment .

      1. It may be a large chunk, but I don’t think it’s close to a majority nationally. Certainly not close to an electoral college or Senate majority.

    3. And banning guns certainly doesn’t work. Look at Japan. Hardly anyone has a gun, yet they still manage to have horrific mass murders at a similar rate to the US.

      1. And their suicide rate is significantly higher. Suicide is another issue that they push as a reason for making guns harder to get.

    4. Please.. you only “proof” of such support are inherently biased polls like the ones which said HRC would win by double digits in 2016. If you want to abolish the 2nd amendment go for it. Either get the amendment passed by Congress and then ratified by 3/4 of the state legislatures or call a Constitutional Convention and again get 3/4 of the states to ratify it. Your problem is democrats only control 18 state legislatures outright so the chance of any amendment passing is less than zero. Funny how all the distain and dismissing of people in red states comes back to bite you in the ass every time.

  8. Seems about as well thought out and realistic as a candidate for school president’s pledge that the drinking fountains will all dispense Coke if you just put him in charge.

  9. shoulda focus-grouped “March for Our Lives” … sounds like structured retreat

    1. Sounds like anti-Japanese racism to me.

    2. +10

      That is hilarious.

  10. The group’s new gun violence czar would work with local police departments “to better train officers in implicit bias, conflict resolution, and crisis intervention.”

    …whilst battering down your door and removing your 2A contraband.

  11. March For Our Lives wants

    WHO?!

    1. The Doctor and/or a rock band.

  12. “It should at least be as difficult to buy and transfer a firearm as it is to buy and transfer an automobile,”

    So I walk in, throw some money on the table, tell them I want one with everything, and I’m out the same day without a background check and no seven day waiting period.

    I’m good with that.

    1. You can order one off the internet and it is delivered to your house or you can pick it up at the vending machine.
      The future look bright for the gun industry.

      1. They’ll call it “Gunvana”?

      2. Resurrect Sears. I want to order one from their catalog, after looking at the scantily clad models in the under garment section.

        1. Moe?

          1. What else did you spank to until you found your dad’s Playboy stash?

    2. So I walk in, throw some money on the table, tell them I want one with everything, and I’m out the same day without a background check and no seven day waiting period.

      Buy a dozen cars and bitch about your ex-wife and co-workers the whole time, note that they’ll be sorry the next time they see you driving around in one of them, and *still* walk out same day and without a background check.

    3. you don’t even have to have drivers license to buy a car

      1. I thought you did– if you’re the primary driver or present yourself as the primary driver.

        (disclaimer: I don’t buy a car very often– only two new in my entire lifetime and I’m no spring chicken. At some point during the last sale I had to present my driver’s license– and I didn’t do financing, I threw them a duffel bag full of unmarked bills so it wasn’t for financing or loans).

        1. It’s because you’re not taking advantage of the “Used Car” loophole.

          1. That’s one way you can acquire a fully automatic assault car without a background check.

            1. Untrue (missed sarc?). “Straw” and/or collective purchasing of cars is absolutely legal.

              D.R.(P.) can throw a duffel bag of money at them to buy two dodge charger 2019 hellcats and say that mad.casual will be around tomorrow to pick one car up himself and that Rat on a train will be by with a trailer on Monday to pick up the other. The dealer, new or used, doesn’t care if D.R.(P.) or I am a felon as long as I have a valid license and you might even be able to load the car on a trailer just holding the title or invoice.

              And this hasn’t even touched on renting, leasing, or ride sharing.

        2. The license is only needed if you’re going to drive it on public roads. If you’re just going to be driving around your backyard, or keeping the car stored away as a collectible, no license required.

          1. License is required I’d you get a loan because the need you to prove you will get car insurance which needs in general a license to get.

          2. License is required by dealerships who want to cover their liability when you drive the car off their lot. The liability is created by driving the car away, not by purchasing the car.

    4. Also, I don’t think there is any minimum age requirement to buy a motor vehicle.

  13. national conversation

    Whenever someone tells you we need a “national conversation” on something, knuckle up.

    1. And why is it that these “conversations” only ever involve listening on my part.

      1. Because the people saying they want a “national conversation” really usually mean that they want to “rant” and for you to capitulate to their desires.

      2. A one-sided conversation is still a conversation. They just leave out that caveat for pleasantries.

    2. Much as how they use the word compromise but really mean capitulation by steps.

  14. The landmark D.C. v Heller Supreme Court decision, which confirmed that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to gun ownership, would be “reexamined” by the Department of Justice

    Ooh! Can we “reexamine” Roe v Wade and Obergefell too?

    1. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

    2. Does he think the DOJ can trump SCOTUS?
      I’m sure Barr would be down with that, RBG? Not so much.

      1. Yeah did any adults read this crap before these children released it? How exactly does the DOJ overrule SCOTUS?

        1. It’s obvious they are will to accept a dictator as long as it’s the right one.

        2. Define “adult.”

        3. By recommending the appropriate 10 new Justices to put on the Court when they pack it, I assume.

          Or maybe I’m giving them too much credit for wanting to nominally act within the law. The DOJ could also overrule the Court by lining them up against a wall and shooting them. I suspect there’s a lot of lining up and shooting in this plan at some point.

    3. “Ooh! Can we “reexamine” Roe v Wade and Obergefell too?”

      No, but I assume that Trump’s Justice Department could, by the same logic.

    4. How come that SCOTUS decision is not being applied in Chicago, New York, and other highly gun-restrictive metropolises?

  15. A new National Director of Gun Violence Prevention position would be created. This director would report directly to the president and coordinate a multi-agency response to halving gun deaths and injuries over 10 years.

    Just roll it into the new Department of Peace and I can see all of this working. Nothing like an agent from the Department of Peace sending out armed troops to confiscate all the firearms.

    1. *PA voice* “This is the department of peace, we have you surrounded. Come out with your hands up”.

      1. Peace sells, who’s buying?

        1. Megadeth fans?

          1. Support your system. Go to court when you have to.

            1. What do you mean I don’t pay my bills? Why do you think I’m broke?!

      2. No one announces armed raids anymore. They just batter your door down at 3 AM, shoot your dog, and zip-tie you and your family (assuming you don’t resist).

    2. That is the department that regulates unicorn farts and fairy dust, correct?

  16. Iron law:

    Get Politics Out of the Way == Do it my way with no disagreement.

    1. Not all that unusual, with liberals it usually comes down to “If we cant win within the rules, then lets change the rules”.

  17. Once an applicant secures one of these federal gun licenses, they will have to pay unspecified licensing fees that would pay for the costs of this national licensing system and also pay for the general costs of gun violence.

    In other words, only rich people will be able to legally own a gun. I guess they’ve shed their egalitarianism.

    1. also pay for the general costs of gun violence

      In other words, legal gun owners are collectively responsible for violent criminals.

      1. To avoid the moral hazard of passively subsidizing gun violence you’ll be doing it actively and against your will.

      2. legal gun owners are collectively responsible for violent criminals

        And suicides. Don’t forget the suicides.

    2. Sounds exactly like egalitarian end goals.

  18. Little known fact – Noted firearms expert Michael Hihn has a stroke book filled with pics of David Hogg.

    1. >Michael Hihn

      Gee, I wonder why a bottom-feeding, psychopathic, Islamofascist Useful Idiot who lies about the Iranian Appeasement because he wants to arm terrorists would want Americans helpless.

  19. I do find it interesting that a kid who was let down by several government agencies thinks government is the answer.

    1. If only they’d had the right Top Men.

    2. Let down? You kidding me?! Hogg was nowhere near the shooting, and used the mistakes of those government agencies to launch himself straight into the limelight. They made him into a national figure and secured him a spot at Harvard that he otherwise wouldn’t have been qualified for. The shooting was the best thing that ever happened to that shit stain.

      1. Hogg was nowhere near the shooting
        We’re all survivors.

  20. On the political side of things, the group calls for crushing the National Rifle Association (NRA). The NRA, their plan says, should have its tax-exempt status investigated by the IRS, and its campaign donations investigated by the Federal Election Commission.

    For the comparatively small amount of money they contribute relative to other organization, the NRA is both feared and reviled. The NRA’s voting block punches above its weight.

    And these idiots don’t realize that there are other gun owners organizations.

    1. Organizations that actually defend the 2A, rather than using it as a fear-tactic to raise money for fancy wardrobes and vacations.

    2. “”And these idiots don’t realize that there are other gun owners organizations.””

      What they don’t realize is that it’s not about the organizations. It’s about all the gun owners that vote.

      1. They just don’t want to admit that their schemes lack the political support that they claim. They hate the NRA simply because it IS organized opposition to their schemes.

    3. Fun fact for those kiddies who are evidently illiterate.
      The NRA is not a tax exempt organization. Specifically to avoid all the ‘imperial entanglements’.
      I guess their search engines have the socialist filter turned on.

      1. NRA-ILA, the lobbying and political action part, is not tax exempt.

        The tax exempt part of the NRA teaches gun safety, hunter safety, trains and certifies firearms instructors, runs a museum, supports historical research. etc.

        LBJ through Joseph Tydings tried to shut down the NRA when the 1968 GCA did not include national gun registration (NRA testfied against the Joseph Tydings bill which failed to pass); in revenge the Johnson administration went after the NRA to pull its tax exempt status so NRA decided to create a political action arm and register it with Congress Dec 1968 as a lobby separate from the educational association for gun owners and hunters.

  21. Dammit I thought Hogg had faded into obscurity…

    1. He’s used up his 15 minutes and now he’s hogging somebody else’s.

    2. That’s why he’s being so extremist and irrational, he’s an attention whore and talking crazy gets you attention. Just not the good kind.

    3. He is the poster buy for raising the voting age to 30 or so.

  22. David Hogg, a survivor of the 2018 Parkland shooting

    *barf*

  23. “David Hogg, a survivor of the 2018 Parkland shooting”

    Hey, so did I! By the same method of not being there!

    1. He was there.

      But if I read this correctly, he was filming interviews about gun control DURING the shooting.

      https://www.factcheck.org/2018/04/david-hogg-at-school-during-parkland-shooting/

      1. You read correctly.

        “Once we were all in the room and we started seeing the headlines, we realized this was anything but a drill — this was life or death,” Hogg said in a MSNBC interview the day after the shooting. “And that actually was when I started recording. Because I realized that if I died, and if everyone else around me died, I wanted to have our voices heard.”

        1. Which sounds like a nice idea. But does he really think that views on gun control are the most valuable things those people could have left behind?
          And it sounds like he already wanted to be an anti-gun activist and leaped at his chance.

        2. Riiiiight. This bony little prick was terrified of dying so he created a last will and testament, if you will. Because as we all know, when faced with imminent death, we all have foresight to tape a manifesto instead of looking for a way out and pouring piss out of our boots. Give me a fucking break!

      2. Was David Hogg in Building Twelve?

        Where non-student Nickolaus Cruz was allowed to walk in carrying a rifle case while the Broward Couty Sheriff’s Office set up a 500 ft perimeter for officer safety giving Cruz free hand while students and teachers were being shot?

        Was David Hogg in Building Twelve?

  24. “Incredibly, their plan seems to assume that the more gun laws we have, the less policing we’ll need.”

    As none of these laws will affect them, criminals applaud the efforts of these prigs to make America a predator safe hunting ground.

  25. And licensing regs and fees that mean only rich white liberal cocksuckers can own guns. FOUND THE RACISTS!

  26. Here’s the actual threat:

    They know they can’t get all of this. So they’ll “settle” for mandatory “background checks” and confiscation orders, against those horrible, evil, Russian-controlled NRA mass-murderers who secretly control Congress. And nothing will improve.

    And they’ll pull the same shit again next year, and get confiscation orders based on anything you’ve ever posted online that the “gun czar’s” office doesn’t like. And nothing will improve.

    And they’ll do it again, and get a law that claims that gun violence is so important that we can’t let that pesky 2nd Amendment (sic) get in the way of mandatory annual searches of everyone’s house.

    And then it will be a crime to even talk about guns (oh, wait, THEY’VE ALREADY FOUND JUDGES TO ORDER THAT.)

    And this is why I can’t say the next obvious comment, without going to jail for doing so.

  27. The *second* you advocate enforcing a law about ownership with jail, you have ceded any claim to wanting to *reduce* violence: jail *is* violence, while ownership is not.

    #NonInitiationOfViolencePrinciple

  28. These children are uneducated monsters. HARD pass.

  29. I think Kurt Schlichter novels have the right idea. Let’s just split the country up now. These people can have their Leftist hell somewhere else.

    1. No thank you, because I’ll probably end up trapped behind the Iron Curtain.

    2. Why give progressives anything? Just throw them all out. If they don’t like it, what are they going to do? They’re just a bunch of weak soyboys anyway.

      1. What could possibly go wrong with an ideological purge?

        1. It could get messy, for the progtards. Oh well……..

  30. Those who are unwilling to protect and defend their lives, freedoms, rights and property will inevitable and deservedly lose them.

  31. “March For Our Lives Calls for Confiscating Guns, Investigating the NRA, and ‘Reforming’ the Supreme Court.”

    Also, March for Our Lives wants everyone to wear jackboots and Brown Shirts, have rallies back in the good ol’ Nurnberg, round up all the undesirables, stoke up the ovens and fanatically follow the fascist leader of their choice.
    Then, and only then, we all enjoy the fruits of freedom given to us by the fascist elites this organization covets.

  32. REASON! Show some journalistic integrity instead of following the pack! “through a mandatory gun buyback program”. You cannot “buy back” something you never owned. Call it “compensated confiscation” or “government purchase” or even “eminent domain condemnation of private property”. Whatever, IT AIN’T A BUYBACK.

    And while you’re at it, start substituting “big ol’ scary black guns” for “so-called ‘assault weapons'”.

    1. Well, good, someone found something incoherent to bitch about.

    2. so you take my money then use it to force me to sell you my gun?

  33. Given the distribution of crime in this country, any enforcement efforts will have to be similarly distributed. This will run smack into their dislike of “over policing” neighborhoods primarily inhabited by “minorities” and “people of color”.
    Homicide prevention efforts will have to be evenly applied across city neighborhoods. This means that in Chicago, Uptown and West Ridge will have to have the same proportion of crime reduction efforts applied as Englewood and Austin.

    1. Ah, but when they ban unlicensed guns and criminalize their possession, then the distribution of crime will look rather different.

  34. Read the headline – Check
    Saw a pic of a sphincter with a microphone – Check
    There are Protesting Haters and there are Revisionist Haters
    for Everything else, there is a “GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!”
    Progressives, they are everywhere you don’t need them to be!

  35. That was one of the most compelling cases for gun ownership I have ever read.

    1. He’s a mole on the payroll of the Gun Sellers of America.

  36. “Once an applicant secures one of these federal gun licenses, they will have to pay unspecified licensing fees that would pay for the costs of this national licensing system and also pay for the general costs of gun violence.”
    Having people who have a legitimate licenses pay for “general costs” of illegal activities seems to beg the question. It assumes that gun ownership is somehow complicit in gun violence. That is how anti-gun activists seem to think, but I’d prefer my laws be based on actual reality.

    1. Considering that, under the Green New Deal, anyone who uses a gas stove, gas heat, or a charcoal grill will be complicit in global warming, it’s not much of a stretch.

    2. By that logic, all people who have video equipment should be taxed as punishment for child pornography.

    3. If I’m going to lay more taxes, I would prefer it went o the cost of removing subversives like Hogg from America.

  37. From the “Peace Plan for a Safer America…

    “In addition, we would expand prohibited categories for obtaining a gun license, with a focus on those with a propensity for violence. This would include: individuals with felony convictions, any level of domestic violence offenders (protective orders and misdemeanors), individuals with a documented history of violence, individuals convicted of hate crimes, individuals convicted of stalking…”

    Too bad that they don’t realize that these folks are pretty much already prohibited from gun possession by 18 USC 922 (g). Even worse is that Progressives demand laws that are already on the books, apparently just to generate outrage.

    1. I believe there was a survey that found support for gun control was highest among those who knew the least about existing federal gun laws.

      And I also recall reading about a legislator who introduced a gun bill and waited for the NRA to push back; when NRA did not comment on his proposal, he discovered his proposal was less restrictive than existing law. The bill was quietly withdrawn.

      1. “”I believe there was a survey that found support for gun control was highest among those who knew the least about existing federal gun laws.”‘

        Would not surprise me considering all the things the left thinks has greater restrictions to access than guns.

  38. There is a relatively short pier nearby where they could hold a long march…

  39. Chances are this guy will be transitioning to Daisy Soww in the near future.

  40. Well there is that thing called 2A

    1. WHAT WRECKINBALL IGNORES,

      As AUTHORITATIVELY EXPOUNDED by Justice SCALIA, the Second Amendment allows common-sense restrictions – but FASCISTS OF RIGHT AND LEFT ignore the TRUTH.

      LEFT MINUS RIGHT = A BIG ZERO, LOL

      1. Not taking the bait, eh?

        What, my Hihn wasn’t realistic enough for you?

        1. I’m a bit surprised the real thing isn’t here, telling us emphatically that the only true way to be anti-authoritarian is to give the government unlimited authority.

          1. The home only lets him use the computer during certain hours, I suspect.

            1. He may also be medicated part of the time. I notice after an absence that his posts are more coherent at first. Then he deteriorates.

          2. “”I’m a bit surprised the real thing isn’t here,””

            Ssssssshhhhh. You might wake it.

            1. He’s like Colonel Flagg on M*A*S*H. He just pops up from time to time; we can’t control it.

              1. I wonder if Hihn dry shaves and then uses rubbing alcohol to stop the bleeding.

        2. The copypasta wasn’t nearly long enough.

        3. There was no bold text.

      2. Needs moar bold.

  41. What a know nothing totalitarian twerp.

    With all the vetting to get a license limiting those who can have guns to the paragons of humanity, isn’t it odd that we still have to have all these paragons of humanity register all their guns?

    It’s almost as if there’s some *other* purpose he plans to make of all that registration information.

  42. All right, it’s officially time to set up a legal defense fund for whomever is arrested in the blunt instrument death of David Hogg.

    1. Enjoy that FBI visit, DRM.

  43. On the subject of guns and fake news a California news broadcast claimed a potential mass shooter had an illegal arsenal there is no such statute in California

  44. Awww, Hogg is so cute in his little black shirt.

    1. Little? It’s clearly ‘boy’s large’!

  45. Sounds like March For Our Lives is on the right track.
    LastoftheShitferbrains hardest hit.

    1. What a shock that NoBallsWhatsoever is in favor of this.

    2. Still working those elaborate knots out of your panties?

    3. Cuntt, I live in your head. I own you.

  46. So this HoggBoyy character is now listed as “a survivor”? I guess I am also a survivor of that school massacre as well, as I remember it happening and reading about it.

    Anyone else remember WHERE that creature was during the tnire shooting incident? He was a fwe miles away riding his bicycle.
    If he is a survivor of that massacr, the I’m a survivor of the crash of the Hindenberg Zeppelin.

    1. Hindenberg is before my time, but I survived the Challenger disaster and 9/11!

      1. You probably survived the OK City bombing too.

    2. I survived the fall of Asgard in ‘Thor: Ragnarok’. It was very traumatic.

  47. Will somebody please snap the neck of this little prick? And his typical FBI ‘father’? (must be one of those wonderful rank & file agents Hannity says are above reproach) Anybody advocating the overthrow of our Constitution is too stupid and dangerous to breathe.

    1. “…Hannity says are above reproach…”

      Hannity, Andrew Wilkow and the NRA set the standard for badge-licking and cop-sucking.

  48. You just March yourself right back to your bedroom, young man! You can come out when you learn to respect the rights of others.

  49. “Appoint a National Director of Gun Violence Prevention (GVP) who reports directly to the President, with the mandate to operationalize our federal goals and empower existing federal agencies such as the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF), the Department of Health and Human Services, and the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) – agencies that have all been structurally weakened by the gun lobby. The National Director of GVP would begin by overseeing a down payment of $250 million in annual funding for research by the CDC and other federal agencies on gun violence prevention.”

    Old moldy gun control propaganda put in the mouths of children.

    Katherine Christoffel, M.D.: “Guns are a virus that must be eradicated…. Get rid of the guns, get rid of the bullets, and you get rid of the deaths.” in “Gun Control as Immunization.”

    Patrick O’Carroll, Acting Section Head of the Division of Injury Control, Centers for Disease Control: “We’re going to systematically build a case that owning firearms causes deaths. We’re doing the most we can do, given the political realities.”

    Their theory was guns are the germ of gun violence and that eliminating the germ will cure the disease and they needed to mount a crusade against guns. A medical approach — victim infected by a germ (gun) getting a disease — to a criminology problem — an actor with motive and intent exploiting opportunities and utilizing a means (gun). If I had to fit gun violence to a medical model, it would be the immune system failure model, and that is a sloppy fit.

    CDC Additional Requirement 12 AR-12 banned using grant money in violation of the Anti-lobbying Act. CDC is part of the Executive Branch and cannot use funds from Congress to lobby Congress on specific legislation. The clique at CDC pushing the germ theory of gun violence to lobby Congress to act on gun control gave rise to AR-13: you can use grant money for empirical research on guns and violence, you cannot use grant money to lobby for gun control. This is usually represented by the gun control advocates as barring “research” on guns. The gun control lobby’s idea of “research” is op-ed level advocacy screeds.

    1. “Katherine Christoffel, M.D.: “Guns are a virus that must be eradicated…. Get rid of the guns, get rid of the bullets, and you get rid of the deaths.” in “Gun Control as Immunization.”

      Wow.

  50. What triggers moderation here?

    1. Nothing…so go ahead.

  51. “…might make criminals out of millions of responsible gun owners.”
    Again, feature, not bug.

  52. Cynical me wonders if NRA funds these groups to raise donations.

    1. You’d think that; The only thing keeping the NRA afloat is being vilified by groups like this. Every time they attack the NRA, members set aside their gripes about how it’s run, and pony up.

      If Hogg were to complement the NRA on how reasonable and accommodating they are, it would hemorrhage members.

      1. The NRA is in a internal civil war right now. The power of the NRA is nothing more than a cover for Democrats to hide the fact their gun laws have no actual support beyond their base or the media. The NRA is nothing more than the lefts boogeyman to hide their failure from their base. The left is the only people who actually buy this NRA is all powerful crap.

        1. It’s not the NRA that has power, it’s Republicans, and they are pussies who can’t stand up to the NRA, even as a majority of NRA members themselves support basic gun regulation measures on the table.

          Same Republicans being insane pussies, different day.

          1. even as a majority of NRA members themselves support basic gun regulation measures on the table

            If that were true they’d vote accordingly on election day. But they don’t.

            1. Gun nuts are an extreme minority of Americans. They’re just loud.

              1. Call them whatever you like. But they’re not voting in favor of gun control, whatever polls may say. And the voting of the membership is where the power of the NRA lies.

              2. No Tony, progtards are an extreme minority of Americans, as are homosexuals. I see no reason to restructure our country to accommodate either group. Ownership of armaments is enshrined in the constitution, and supported by almost everyone.

                Now fuck off you subversive deviant.

          2. “even as a majority of NRA members themselves support basic gun regulation measures on the table”

            No, they don’t.

              1. I’ll take it as very biased.

                “”Ryan’s spokesman cited a 2015 poll of gun owners by Public Policy Polling, a Democratic polling firm, conducted on behalf of two liberal groups: MoveOn.org Civic Action and the Center for American Progress. The poll surveyed 816 gun owners.””

                1. Move On what a fucking joke. I went to college with its first executive director Peter Schurmann who was a douchey blend of this Hogg twit and resident faggot rube Tony. Take anything related to them as seriously as anything that spews out of Tony’s piehole other than spooge. Which is the smartest thing to dribble out of that backwoods cocksmoking retard.

                2. So show me a contradictory poll and I’ll stand corrected.

                  1. Tony, I would think a homo like you would support the right to arm yourself in self defense against all those bigots you imagine. As a straight white male, and unstoppable killing machine (your words) I would actually benefit from disarming people.

                    You must be as stupid as we all perceive you to be.

        2. They don’t realize that if the NRA were half as powerful as the left claims, Chuck Schumer and Diane Feinstein wouldn’t be Senators; they’d be selling vacuum cleaners.

  53. David Hogg ought to be handcuffed to Greta Thunberg for a long weekend.

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  55. Stop referring to Hogg as a “survivor of the Parkland Shooting”. He was in a completely different area of the school and never in danger. The fact he decided to use the event to promote himself shows his true character. As for their proposal, please. They think passing a law can simply side step the Constitution? What do they plan to do when millions of gun owners tell them to get bent? Send in the same police they love to vilify as out of control racists who “hunt” minorities? Hogg is a snot nosed punk out to enrich and promote himself, nothing more.

    1. One of my longtime Usenet allies, Christopher C. Morton, wrote this.

      https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/12/daniel-zimmerman/black-gun-owner-liberals-lack-the-capacity-to-discuss-gun-rights/#comment-4142220

      As a Black man, here’s what I say to “woke” SJWs:

      1. The police are all violent, racist sociopaths.
      2. Only the police should have guns.

      Pick ONE.

    2. In fairness, this child whose classmates were mass murdered has been despicably subjected to right-wing ridicule ever since, so maybe considering him a survivor isn’t too PC.

      1. Child? He was of the age that liberals think should be voters.

        Do you want children voting? If so then they become fair game for political based ridicule.

        1. I’m sure he likes fucking boys that age.

      2. Maybe considering you to be anything other than a none smuggling inbred retarded hick is giving you too much credit.

  56. “On the political side of things, the group calls for crushing the National Rifle Association (NRA).”

    I would call for the crushing of March for Our Lives, except that I realize that would be dictatorial, and most likely unconstitutional. Guess I’m just silly that way.

  57. Only one gun per month??!! How can I live on that?

    1. Dunno. Maybe you could do us all a favor and die from it.

  58. What idiots like this dont grasp is in a crowd, a baseball bat or 2×4 is an “assault weapon”. The reality is you have a far lesser chance of survival being hit by a bat than a bullet. Ever seen a cantaloupe or watermelon hit by a bat? It aint pretty.

    1. I’ve seen a watermelon hit by a Sledge-o-matic.
      It’s just that easy!

  59. A person looking to get a firearm license would have to go through an in-person interview, provide personal references, and complete “rigorous” gun safety training. Law enforcement bodies would oversee this process, and applicants would have to re-complete it annually in order to maintain a license.

    An in-person interview overseen by law enforcement?

    It was mostly the Left who made claims about racial bias in law enforcement and criminal justice. They kept pointing out that black people were more likely to be pulled over that white people. They pointed out that black people were more likely than white people to be searched. They pointed out that black people received harsher sentences than white people for the same crimes. They pointed out that black people are more likely to be sentenced to death if convicted of murder than white people who are convicted of murder.

    Now these people are proposing in-person interviews overseen by racist cops in order to qualify for a firearms license. It is as if any concerns about racial discrimination in law enforcement and criminal justice never existed.

    1. Consistency is not one of their strengths.

  60. And what are you guys proposing to do about gun violence in the United States?

    What was that? Oh, you said “Absofuckinglutely fucking nothing, and I hope even more children die in schools so my penis feels bigger”?

    Thought that was it.

    1. If Washington D.C. is any example, putting people who are found in illegal possession of firearms in jail, rather than giving them plea deals or probation, would cut gun violence down considerably.

      Then again, firearms homicides have gone down around 50% since the mid-1990s, so maybe we should just stick with what we’re doing.

      BTW, why do gun grabbers have such a fascination with other folks’ genitalia?

      1. Genitals are part of our biological imperative. Guns are a fetish. And why the fuck should I give a fuck about you having a right to your fetish when your fetish kills people by the tens of thousands?

        1. Guns are a fetish.

          So is booze and drugs, but I don’t see you having bitch-fits to regulate that any further.

          Alcohol alone is responsible for 2.5 times the number of deaths as all firearms combined, including suicides.

          1. Yes, and your logic is well-taken, truly. But a gun fetish seems to be limited to America and perhaps a few ISIS hovels. It’s preventable as long as we stop being stupid outliers. Alcohol is rather ubiquitous and we rationally welcome the risk vs. the reward. I don’t want to remove all risk from society, just the ones we have that exist via sheer stupidity.

            1. ^^ Not familiar with gun owners around the world.

              1. Esmerelda is unfamiliar with little outside the world of twink porn and self aggrandizement since he graduated first from Podunk Okie High School.

            2. “”I don’t want to remove all risk from society, just the ones we have that exist via sheer stupidity.”‘

              All of the deaths related to alcohol is related to sheer stupidity so that can’t be your qualifier.

              1. The founding fathers all drank alcohol. None of them had an AR-15.

                1. The founding fathers all drank alcohol. None of them had an AR-15.

                  Doesn’t change the fact that alcohol is empirically the cause of far more deaths than firearms.

                  1. So your logic is that we should not prevent one pointless cause of mass death because there exist other causes of mass death.

                    1. No, our logic dictates that you’re an idiot. Which you are.

                    2. Your logic is that one thing that causes empirically fewer deaths is a greater threat to society. That’s not logic, it’s illogic.

                      If 87,000 people a year were dying from firearms like they do from alcohol, the calls from the left to repeal the 2nd would be deafening. But because they love to indulge their boozy vice, they don’t give two shots about those people.

            3. The left seems to be the only ones fetishizing firearms. They think of a penis every time they see a gun, and think that guns are inhabited by evil spirits that magically compel human beings to kill.

              This is just pure projection.

        2. Unfortunately you manage to survive and infect humanity with your retardedness.

    2. Don’t feel like engaging opponents of harsh gun laws on the merits of their arguments, do you? It’s intellectually much easier to do the Freudian smear, isn’t it?

      1. Wake me when any gun regulation that can be honestly described as “harsh” is ever put on the table.

        1. Should have been here in NYC under Ghouliani in the 90s.

          How about regulation that makes you jump through hoops just to get a license, and then if you get one says you can’t transport it except where the city defines.

    3. Oh, you said “Absofuckinglutely fucking nothing, and I hope even more children die in schools so my penis feels bigger”?

      Why do leftists always think of a penis when they see a gun?

      1. They flatter themselves that they’re experts on Freudian psychology because when they were freshmen in college they took Psych 101 in the hopes of learning Jedi mind tricks to get them into girls’ pants. When it turned out to be actual work they audited the course.

      2. Every gun nut I’ve ever known has a tiny penis.

        1. I’m not interested in your tiny sex life Tony; and in saying so I am quite certain I speak for everyone here.

        2. “”Every gun nut I’ve ever known has a tiny penis.”‘

          That’s the funniest comment I’ve seen on here in a while, but not for the reasons you think.

          1. Tony aka Esmerelda jacks his gigantic clock with fantasies of sodomizing Hogg to act out his twink rape porn fantasies.

            1. I think Esmerelda wants to be the little spoon in that equation.

        3. Do you use a polaroid camera, or graph paper? Wanna come over later?

  61. They are going to “operationalize our federal goals” to address this “deeply intersectional issue” and save lives through newspeak goobledegook.

    March For Our Lives high schoolers write like that?

  62. And what are you guys proposing to do about gun violence in the United States?

    Prosecute the offenders.

    What was that? Oh, you said “Absofuckinglutely fucking nothing, and I hope even more children die in schools so my penis feels bigger”?

    So executing murderers is “doing nothing”.

    You have a strange definition of “nothing”.

  63. Gun control folks are not going to be happy until they have started the second American civil war, which they are going to loose.

    1. If only it were a spelling bee.

      1. Your side would get dragged down by the hood rats and chollos, so it would be a wash regardless.

        1. You just can’t help yourself. And that is embarrassing for you.

          1. Only half as embarrassing as some Okie faggot convinced that he’s educated.

          2. Not that embarrassing, considering how many times you bring up cousin-fucking.

            I despise uneducated urbanites the same way you despise uneducated rural residents.

            1. I’m sure Tony had his ass fucked by family regularly. He was probably broken in and conditioned into his faggotry that way.

  64. Ah, the Parkland Kids™ !! Aren’t they cute?

    1. Hogg apparently got into Harvard on a resting bitch face scholarship.

  65. They virtue signal masquerading as if they care about people’s lives, yet they don’t have the foresight or common sense to see how many lives would be lost during a gun confiscation implementation. It would be literal war. I can’t take anything these people say seriously. The Green New Deal and Gun-grabbing crowds are so absurd that they aren’t even worth listening to.

    1. Plus, most of those lives lost to a gun confiscation effort would be black lives.

      I guess Black Lives Don’t Matter to them.

  66. Deport them to the Outback!

    (That’s “Ewtback” for you dialectical purists. [grin])

  67. These people are bona fide loony toons, and they should be dismissed the second they open their mouths.

  68. School children, the most likely victims of school shootings, have taken a leading role for themselves in agitating for gun control. But being children, they are vulnerable to being misguided for want of experience and understanding that comes with maturity. It was not without cause the Founding Fathers set minimum-age requirements for high political offices in the Constitution.

    “Gun violence” is two words. If all guns were removed from the hands of Americans, the U.S. would not have a gun-violence problem. However. psychopaths who would have used guns may turn to deadlier weapons . In Europe, where gun-control is strict, ISIS schools its cadres on making remote-controlled bombs. The necessary ingredients are readily available. Would-be school shooters are likely to give bombs a try if they cannot obtain guns.

    Crude homemade bombs were among the weapons of the Columbine and Santa Fe shooters. Before shooting up Parkland, FL, H.S., the killer used a school computer to research how to make a nail bomb. The deadliest U.S. school violence was the Bath, MI, bombing, which killed 38 students and 6 adults, and injured 58.

    Violence is the other word. If it was possible to legislate an end to violence, gun violence would be over no matter how many people owned lots of guns including assault weapons. Thus, it is logically certain guns are not the problem. Nor is gun violence a problem. The problem is violence!. I’m afraid these children are barking up the wrong tree.

    Don’t send boys and girls to do a man’s and a woman’s job.

  69. David Dogg is the Michael Phelps of unjustified moralizing!

  70. I think these people need to make Fentanyl a serious part of their routine.

  71. Please show me where I can post severe admonishments against this assault on my rights.

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