Republican Party

The Republican Party's Retirement Problem

Trump makes life miserable for GOP lawmakers—and party leadership only makes it worse.

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Last week, Texas Rep. Will Hurd, the lone African-American Republican in the House, announced that he would be retiring from Congress. Hurd's exit is part of a wave of GOP departures that signal the particular ways the Republican party is struggling under President Donald Trump—but also how its problems don't stop with the president. 

Hurd, who is just 41, successfully won and held a Republican seat in the San Antonio area. It's one of the nation's most competitive districts, and it went for Hillary Clinton in 2016. From a strictly electoral perspective, Hurd's departure is a huge loss for the GOP. 

After announcing his exit, Hurd criticized Trump for saying that a quartet of Democratic minority congresswomen—three of whom were born in the United States, and all of whom are citizens—should "go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came." 

"When you imply that because someone doesn't look like you, in telling them to go back to Africa or wherever, you're implying that they're not an American and you're implying that they have less worth than you," Hurd told The Washington Post.

It is understandably hard to be a black Republican under Trump. From his birtherist conspiracy theories about President Obama to his repeated attacks on immigrants as criminals and invaders, Trump has not exactly made the GOP friendly to minorities—even before his recent racialized attacks on Democratic politicians. The party's descent into a cult of personality, willing to bend or break its principles and ideas in order to defend a president who remains intensely popular with the party's base, has made it even more difficult for those who find Trump's brand of politics distasteful or offensive to speak up in response.  

But it's also just hard to be a Republican under Trump, period. Which is why Hurd is only the latest and most prominent GOP lawmaker to announce an exit from Congress. Prior to Hurd's announcement, two other Texas Republicans, Mike Conaway, who represents the Midland area, and Pete Olson, who represents a district outside Houston, also said they'd be retiring. Just yesterday, Rep. Kenny Marchant, a Republican from the Dallas area, also said he would not seek re-election. Since the beginning of the year, Republicans from Utah, Indiana, Georgia, and Alabama have thrown in the towel. More retirement announcements are expected to come. 

Trump shoulders no small share of the blame for the dwindling enthusiasm of GOP representatives; behind closed doors, many freely admit they don't like him, don't like defending him, and don't like the ugly, circus-like politics he has enabled. Trump makes everything about Trump, which makes it more difficult for legislators who would like to focus on actual legislating to do the jobs they wanted to do.  

But Trump isn't the only problem; GOP leadership has also played a role, even before Trump was elected, in centralizing legislative power and turning ordinary Republican lawmakers—especially in the House—into fundraising machines who are expected to show up and vote the way they're told but have little impact on actual legislation. That's at least part of how you end up with the pair of big-spending budget deals that have passed in the last two years, and also how you end up with a majority of GOP House members voting against this year's deal, in a too-little-too-late exercise in symbolic fiscal rectitude. (It certainly helped that this time Democrats held the House majority.) 

As Georgetown University's Matt Glassman put it last week in an instructive Twitter thread on congressional retirements "the fun and interesting things are becoming a much smaller part of the job, while the tedious and soul-crushing aspects are increasingly occupying members' time." In earlier eras, Glassman wrote, "most members participated substantively in the policy process via the committee system. But the process is now tightly controlled by leadership, reducing opportunities for members to influence legislation." 

Glassman wasn't talking only about Republican retirements, but it seems to be a particularly acute problem for the GOP. Certainly, it's a complaint I have heard frequently when talking privately to lawmakers and their staffers. And sometimes, as in the case of rabble-rousers like Rep. Thomas Massie (R–Ky.) or Justin Amash (I–Mich.), they even say it in public. 

The point isn't that being a member of Congress is supposed to be fun or entertaining; sometimes serving the public is frustrating and involves hard work. But it should be productive, and the combination of Trump, who seems to go out of his way to transform every political discussion into a forum on his dubious personal merits, and the centralization of legislative power by Republican leadership, means that GOP elected officials have little to do except raise money and defend a man that many of them despise. 

What is perhaps most ironic about this is that the putative goal of both strategies is to win and hold Republican seats—by sticking with a president that GOP voters like, and by micromanaging the legislative process so that no individual member has the capacity to get out of line and make headaches for the entire party. And yet the wave of retirements in toss-up districts like Hurd's has the potential to cost the GOP, especially in the House. To paraphrase Princess Leia in Star Wars, the more GOP leaders tighten their grip, the more contested seats will slip through their fingers. Republicans can't win without lawmakers like Will Hurd, but the party appears determined to do everything it can to push people like him away. 

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  1. So reason is now concerned about lifetime politicians finding something else to do? Thanks for the concern trolling Peter but hard pass on giving a fuck when any politician gets out of politics

    1. “politician gets out of politics”

      Says the guy is not running for re-election for the house. Doesn’t say anything about getting out of politics.

      1. Doesn’t say anything about him doing so either. If he were going to run for something else, I would think he would mention it.

        1. “I would think he would mention it.”

          Do you trust the media to report it if he did?

          1. Yes. Why wouldn’t they?

            1. Why would you ever engage mtrueman?

            2. Have you not considered the possibility that the guy is just being cagey and holding his cards close to his chest? That’s my guess, even though it’s not reported in the media.

              1. You should be cagey, and keep those guesses to yourself. Also any other comment you might make

                1. Not running for re-election is not the same thing as retiring from politics. This is true whether or not I should be cagey. These young Republicans have their lives ahead of them. They will still be in their prime when Trump passes from the scene.

    2. Poor Suderman.

      In May 2018, there were 7 vacancies in the House. In March 2010, the Democrats had 5 vacancies in the House.

      The Propagandists propagandize. Its what they do.

      The media needs to win it for Democrats, so of course every Republican leaving the House hates what Trump is doing.

      I find it funny that Lefty Propagandists think that shit still works.

      1. There are always retirements. This article is an exercise in wishful thinking on Suderman’s part.

        1. In most spheres of life, as in congress historically, ‘retirement’ is mostly older people who’ve been in the job a long time leaving office.

          But the FACT that congress is just getting older and older and older is all the proof you need that ‘retirement’ ain’t working the way it has always worked before as the slow steady means of generational transition. We’ve become a fucking commie Politburo with a bunch of old guys clinging to power even with their cold dead hands. All we need now really is the wax effigies.

          1. So the problem is that we have people who serve in Congress too long. Yet, people leaving Congress and not serving so long is a bad thing.

            Sure

            1. Not a surprise that you can’t even see the issue here. Just another entitled old fart from a generation that has been completely corrupted during its tenure in power.

              Only ONE of the 14 announced retirements is a well past ‘sell-by’ date – with another three being ‘OK this is what one would expect in a ‘normal’ retirement cycle’. The 10 others are all still junior critters – and their replacements will obviously be even more junior critters. Thus nailing down even more the power stranglehold of the zombie generations.

              1. “America needs more junior Congressmen like AOC.”
                -JFree

                1. I got no problem with that. Nor did the authors of Federalist 52/53 which dealt with the House.

                  As it is essential to liberty that the government in general should have a common interest with the people, so it is particularly essential that the branch of it under consideration should have an immediate dependence on, and an intimate sympathy with, the people. Frequent elections are unquestionably the only policy by which this dependence and sympathy can be effectually secured.

                  She is making her views known – quite effectively and without asking permission from the PTB – in her FIRST term. The ONLY sure term for a critter in a house of frequent elections. And is EXACTLY what was intended for that House. She is not punching the clock for party leadership – waiting for THEIR approval for her to speak in her 3rd/4th/8th term in office. Waiting for their own incumbency to have immunized them to the whims of their constituents so that they feel emboldened to write laws that they know they themselves will never be subject to.

                  Whether she is re-elected or turned out in her next election, her constituents will have received REPRESENTATION during her term – not silence and obeisance to PTB.

                  1. “I got no problem with that”

                    Yes we’ve already established that you’re an idiot and a bigot.

                    1. I would have no problem if they elected an 80 year old feisty grandma who speaks her mind in her first term and doesn’t give a shit what the PTB thinks because she doesn’t expect to be around for her 8th term and so intends to speak her mind now.

              2. “Just another entitled old fart”

                Oh on top of being utterly ignorant of the 2nd amendment, you’re a bigot. How predictable.

                1. It would be funny if Elder Abuse crimes were used against these Lefties.

                  Smack an 80 year old in the head with a rock- get life in prison.

                  1. Im sure we are going to hear all about how that is different somehow.

              3. Not a surprise that you can’t even see the issue here. Just another entitled old fart from a generation that has been completely corrupted during its tenure in power.

                What are you 12? And where is this corruption and power? Does it come with booze and broads?

                Only ONE of the 14 announced retirements is a well past ‘sell-by’ date – with another three being ‘OK this is what one would expect in a ‘normal’ retirement cycle’. The 10 others are all still junior critters – and their replacements will obviously be even more junior critters. Thus nailing down even more the power stranglehold of the zombie generations.

                And those Congressmen will be replaced by (wait for it) freshman Congressman. So, Congress will get even younger as a result of this.

                Jesus you are stupid.

                1. …And freshman Republicans.

                  This Narrative is that more and more Republicans hate Trump, cant stand working with him, and their constituents want the Congressman to be anti-Trump.

                  The truth is that more and more RINOs hate Trump because they are not being allowed to help Democrats without consequences, More and more Americans like Trump’s actions in office, and these districts will likely be filled with freshman Republicans.

                  Add in Blue states losing House seats to Red states due to Census 2020 and the tears will flow from Lefties.

                  1. More and more Americans like Trump’s actions in office,

                    58% of voters says they will “definitely not” vote Trump in 2020.

                    Especially after his MASSIVE treason on deficits! He campaigned on paying off the entire federal debt in 8 years. But has already added more new 8-year debt than Obama added AFTER 8 years (CBO forecast vs Obama actual) ,.. and that was BEFORE his crazy spending bill — that he promised to veto.

                    MORE debt than Obama. When Obama inherited the 2nd worst recession since the 1930s. Trump inherited the longest recovery EVER for an incoming President … from Obama (who started with a major recession).

                    Being worse than Obama is one hell of a feat!

                    1. ” 58% of voters says they will “definitely not” vote Trump in 2020. ”

                      58% of people, and they’re right, because half of them don’t vote anyway.

                  2. Poor Hihn.

                    1. Tell me what you challenge, and stop your damn whining.

                2. No – congress will not necessarily get ‘younger’ in any meaningful way. Those who currently have power concentrated around them will, by definition, be OLDER. None are ‘retiring’. The four who are retiring who are currently ‘ranking members’ of some subcommittee or somesuch will be replaced by critters who are roughly their age who aren’t retiring. And the ‘freshmen’ who replace the 10 junior critters will be expected to STFU for the next decade or so – by which point they too will be ‘older’.

                  We basically have a gerontocracy. This pattern is how gerontocracies perpetuate. And the major problem of our federal govt is a massive income transfer from young to old – which is most assuredly never going to be addressed by a gerontocratic legislature.

                  1. It sure as hell won’t get any older.

                    Do they teach you clowns math?

                    1. No John, the 80 year old are going to run this time. Count on it.

                    2. It sure as hell won’t get any older

                      Why’s that? Only one (who’s been diagnosed with a disease that has prob been apparent to everyone else for a decade or so) is almost certainly going to be replaced by someone younger. 5 are GenX’ers who could easily be replaced by someone older. Of the nine boomers – 3 are ‘older’ boomers (Nam-era – late 60’s/early 70’s) but the 5 younger boomers are just late-50’s or so and could very easily be replaced by ‘same age’ since that’s roughly the age at which a candidate can gather the big national donor money and ‘party approval’ necessary for an ad campaign in today’s House. And in fact most of those younger boomers have only been in office 2-6 years (which is slightly less than the X’ers).

                      Even if they are replaced by younger, it will only likely be by a couple of years or so. And since they will have to STFU for 3/4/8 terms – that is irrelevant anyway.

                3. And those Congressmen will be replaced by (wait for it) freshman Congressman. So, Congress will get even younger as a result of this.

                  Jesus you are stupid

                  He’s not the crazy MISFUCK who says “freshman Congressman” means younger. Or ANY age at all.

                  Not the ASSWIPE who confuses a college freshman with a Congressional freshman.

                  Oh it’s John. Never mind …

                  1. Yeah because they will all be old people!! Go the fuck away Hihn. Stop using sock puppets and go back to the mental institution that kicked you out you crazy miserable asshole.

                    1. NOW HE FUCKS UP IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION!!!

                      He’s not the crazy MISFUCK who says “freshman Congressman” means younger. Or ANY age at all.

                      Yeah because they will all be old people!!

                      Or …. any …. age …. at …. all.

                      Can you hear me NOW?

                      John being John.

                    2. Can I get a chortles?

                    3. Can I get a chortles?

                      Shhh
                      ANYTHING you say will launch another of his imbecilities.

                      (It’s chortle, singular)

          2. “”In most spheres of life, as in congress historically, ‘retirement’ is mostly older people who’ve been in the job a long time leaving office.””

            And there is nothing wrong with that.

            1. And nothing true in it.

        2. Indeed, you’ve noticed that he carefully avoids comparing the numbers to previous election cycles. I was particularly struck by this: “It is understandably hard to be a black Republican under Trump. ”

          That’s true: Being a black Republican at all results in the Democrats painting a target on your back; One of the highest priorities the Democratic party has had, for many years, is destroying any black who becomes a prominent Republican, in order to prevent blacks from thinking they might have a future in the GOP. I’ve seen it happen over and over.

          Trump isn’t doing anything in particular that makes it hard to be a black Republican. It just makes you a target, and has for years.

      2. In May 2018, there were 7 vacancies in the House. In March 2010, the Democrats had 5 vacancies in the House.

        The Propagandists propagandize. Its what they do.

        Or they spout total irrelevance,

        Or your predicted GOP landslide in 2018!

      3. Suder-Man writes:

        “It is understandably hard to be a black Republican under Trump”

        Maybe Suder-Man believes that as a squishy progtard, but it’s bullshit. Just like everything else he writes.

        1. Maybe Suder-Man believes that as a squishy progtard, but it’s bullshit. Just like everything else he writes.l

          Shame on you.
          Why did Last of the Shitheads spout such a COWARDLY LIE on what Suderman wrote?

          It is understandably hard to be a black Republican under Trump. From his birtherist conspiracy theories about President Obama to his repeated attacks on immigrants as criminals and invaders, Trump has not exactly made the GOP friendly to minorities—even before his recent racialized attacks on Democratic politicians

          What is untrue there, you lying sack? Be specific.

      4. What’s funny is your absolute persistence in never facing reality. Your delusion is amazing.

        1. Yep. Last of the Shitheads is a habitual bullshittter.

      5. In point of fact The Don does nothing BUT recite the Republican platform, embellished by perhaps a little pussy-grabbing now and then. The sheer volume of paranoid superstitious drooling there, when divided into tweets, stretches pretty close to 4 years without much repetition. And yes the energy-banning illiterate Dems thrill to each looter taking the retirement income for life. It’s not like they can defeat any but the ones already back in diapers.

    3. Politicians dislike being in a minority. News at 11.

      1. Phrasing.

    4. ITT, JFree says pirates and privateers are the same thing, then changes the subject instead of admitting he’s wrong after John tells him they’re not the same word.

      Then Hinhsanity hits and I laugh my ass off for a few.

      1. Actually, you made a total ass of yourself … as FULLY documented here:
        https://reason.com/2019/08/06/the-republican-partys-retirement-problem/#comment-7883614

        And what you describe of JFree never happened anyhow.
        Ever.

  2. >>>particular ways the Republican party is struggling under President Donald Trump

    aw, is graft under shade of (D) more difficult now?

    1. The Republicans control the Senate, the White House and a large majority of state governments. Not really sure how that qualifies as “struggling”. Orange man bad I guess.

      1. swamp draining.

        1. What is funny is that Suderman thinks this is some kind of criticism of Trump. I am going to go out on a limb here and say there are not many people on either side in this country who wouldn’t consider Trump forcing career politicians into retirement a benefit to his being in office.

          1. Of the many swamp creatures working at Reason, MacAdoodle loves it the most by far. It’s sort of understandable that he does NOT want his natural habitat to be drained under any circumstances.

          2. What is funny is that Suderman thinks this is some kind of criticism of Trump.

            What’s BAT-SHIT CRAZY is that HURD SAID IT WAS AGAINST TRUMP

            1. Speaking of BAT-SHIT CRAZY, have you peed your pants laughing lately?

              1. Three times yesterday. The crazies MAY be getting worse.

                1. We know you shit yourself regularly too. Plus you really start ranting and raving when you go off your meds. Which I expect to happen soon.

                  1. Do YOU deny that Hurd targeted Trump as a threat???
                    Are you as full of shit as John? More?

      2. “The Republicans control the Senate, the White House and a large majority of state governments. Not really sure how that qualifies as “struggling”. Orange man bad I guess.”

        An airplane often can be seen as being in fine shape, from certain perspectives, a second or two before it crashes into the ground.

        Soon, not even the pillars of Republican electorate strategy — gerrymandering, voter suppression, and our system’s structural amplification of yahoo votes at the Electoral College and Senate — will enable conservatives to maintain a viable electoral coalition beyond the desolate backwaters. Republicans will continue to lord over the rural and southern backwaters — anywhere short on education, accomplishment, and economic prospects — for a while, though.

        1. KIRKLAND IMPLODING!!!!

        2. Cool story Rev. You keep hoping.

  3. I hope Pete Buttigieg chooses him as his running mate.

    Butthurd 2020!

    1. Butthurd, a choice for the times.

  4. You know what I find particularly galling? After three terms, a Congress-critter can collect a pension, starting at age 62. Seriously?

    We should not allow any Congressman or Senator to get a pension, period. Sorry, but that is a benefit that needs to go away.

    1. I would be okay with leaving it, if they would agree to not accept any outside income of any kind and take a 90% tax on any money above their salaries they make during the first ten years after leaving office.

      1. I’m not okay with the Congressional pension.

        Congressmen should be part time. A few days a month to pass a federal yearly budget. Pay them for the time that they spend in the US Capitol and for a few days working in their district office. Give them a tiny office in the Capitol and a tiny office back in their home district.

        This would limit the time they had to pass laws and save taxpayers millions per year on a political class that is destroying America.

        1. I am not either. I was just making a point about how much money they steal while in and after they leave office.

          1. Oh yeah, that revolving door cronyism makes me sick.

            Boehner was like that. Years of allowing drugs laws and enforcement of drug laws, then leaves the House and POOF, works for the marijuana industry.

    2. We should not allow any Congressman or Senator to get a pension, period. Sorry, but that is a benefit that needs to go away.

      WRONG AGAIN,

      It needs to be IMPROVED, so that Joe Lunchbucket or Sally Secretary can run and serve without destroying their livelihood.
      No surprise that your ilk craves a MORE ELITE Congress.

      1. What offices do Joe and Sally hold? Never heard of either of them.

        1. Read what I said. Slower.

          1. It’s called sarcasm you senile old twat. You really need hospice right away. Tell them to turn the morphine all the way up to 11.

            1. It’s called sarcasm you senile old twat.

              Now YOU fuck it up, by not knowing what sarcasm is!
              Sarcasm CANNOT justify a total falsehood.
              Did you mean to say satire? (snort)

            1. Lol

              You’re laughing at yourself … perhaps for the same reason I’m still laughing at you.

              I said so they COULD run, which means they haven’t..

              So, YOU asked what offices they held ,… when they had never even run. Congress is an ELECTED body. Are you even American?

              So, did you and Last of the Shitheads enjoy your mindless hissy fits?

  5. “From his birtherist conspiracy theories about President Obama to his repeated attacks on immigrants as criminals and invaders” So following the Hillary Clinton party line regarding Obama until it was memory holed when he offered her a place in his cabinet, check. And telling the truth about the situation on our southern border and the nature of his opponents, check. One merely needs to look at the pretty well confirmed at this point tax fraud and immigration fraud committed by Omar as well as the probable but not yet confirmed fact that she married her brother and not a stranger with the same age and first name as her brother in order to commit said immigration fraud.

    1. to his repeated attacks on immigrants as criminals and invaders”

      He said in so many words that they don’t send us their best and some of them are criminals. I guess telling the truth is racist or something.

      1. re: “send us their best”

        Would you say it is truth that the government of Mexico is purposefully trucking criminals north, in the same way that Castro used the Mariel boatlift to empty his prisons?

        1. I don’t think the government of Mexico has enough control over its own country to do that. What the government of Mexico does do is use immigration as a way to keep the population from revolting over how corrupt and stupid they are.

          1. Gotcha, thanks.

            1. Well, they do tend to send us the people who illegally enter through their own southern border. And as those people have already illegally crossed one international border, they ARE criminals.

              The idea that there are large numbers of people in central and South America who are perfectly fine with violating all sorts of immigration laws, (Illegal entry, identity theft, illegal employment…) but otherwise obsessively law abiding, is psychologically incoherent. People aren’t like that, if you’ll break one law if you find it advantageous, you’ll break other laws.

          2. I don’t think the government of Mexico has enough control over its own country to do that

            So you FINALLY agree that Trump is full of shit … after defending the exact opposite, on this very page.

        2. Yes, I do believe that happens

          1. Whyso?

            1. It’s the smart thing to do, and the US until now has exhibited very little pushback.

              1. Got a link, or anything to support your feelz?

        3. After approximately 10,000 Cubans tried to gain asylum by taking refuge on the grounds of the Peruvian embassy, the Cuban government announced that anyone who wanted to leave could do so. The ensuing mass migration was organized by Cuban Americans with the agreement of Cuban president Fidel Castro.

          If you somehow swallowed the nonsense that it was to empty prisons … then you’ll also swallow anything John says

          1. You may fancy yourself a truth teller, but your reading comprehension sucks. Hard to tell truths when you don’t understand your audience.

            1. LAME. I proved you wrong, skippy.

              TRUTH IS NOT RELIANT ON AN AUDIENCE!!! IT IS ONE OR MORE OBJECTIVE FACTS. That may explain your fuckups, both of them.

          2. It didn’t start in order to empty the prisons, but history records that, once the boat lift started, Cuba did indeed take advantage of it for that purpose. About 15% of those arriving during the boatlift turned out to be criminals, which is pretty hard to explain if Cuba hadn’t made a deliberate effort to export them.

            “Statistics compiled by the Criminal Justice Council revealed that Mariel Cubans are five times more likely than pre-Mariel Cubans to commit crime. They also show that although Mariels represent only 5 percent of the Dade County population, they accounted for 10 percent of the felony bookings last year, 22 percent of the misdemeanor bookings and nearly 50 percent of those found incompetent to stand trial in local courts.”

      2. He said in so many words that they don’t send us their best and some of them are criminals. I guess telling the truth is racist or something.

        You’re as sick as he is.
        And an even bigger liar.

        THEY don’t SEND anybody, you horse’s ass.

        1. I bet they send some diplomats. And I bet some of them are corrupt.

          1. How many are drug dealers?

            Trump is the same crazy psycho who claimed his neo-Nazi and racist supporters were attacked by the counter-protesters in Charlottesville … even said the bullshit attackers were clubbing his racist supporters. THAT is PROOF of how SICK he is . It was PRECISELY the opposite. HIS supporters assaulted peaceful people with clubs.
            (puke)
            .

            1. “How many are drug dealers?”

              All of them.

              1. NOW R MAC SAYS ALL THE MEXICAN DIPLOMATS TO THE US ARE …. DRUG DEALERS. … AND HE WAS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT DIPLOMATS INTO THE DISCUSSION!
                lol

  6. The GOP would have a far worse problem if the Democrats weren’t playing the exact same game: Unlikeable leadership, centralization of power, and racing full-speed away from the center

    1. The tiebreaker will be bigotry.

      Or superstition.

      Or whatever else conservatives use to drive away educated, accomplished, decent, reasoning young Americans.

      1. KIRKLAND IMPLODING!!!

      2. “”Or whatever else conservatives use to drive away educated, accomplished, decent, reasoning young Americans.””

        Hillary Clinton?

        1. Hillary’s not a conservative tool of oppression. (lol)

          1. Lol indeed!

            1. And “all” Mexican diplomats to the US are NOT “drug dealers” — despite your falsehood on that

              Lol indeed!

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  8. R’s are now having a problem with their nextgen politicians retiring simply because Trump is such an asshole. That’s only gonna get worse cuz even when Trump leaves office, he ain’t gonna stop tweeting and drawing attention to himself. He owns the R’s now. Far more than any pol has ever owned the R’s in my lifetime. And if he’s gonna be the first ex-Prez who never really leaves the stage/limelight, then that’s gonna make it impossible for a party that doesn’t simply decide to become a cult of personality.

    And the D’s have a problem with their older pols not even allowing the nextgen to get on the stage.

    DeRps have created quite the intergenerational transition problem for themselves. Compounded for the rest of us by a nextgen that is astonishingly snowflaky and seemingly dependent on the ‘approval’ of their parents gen even as they are well into adulthood now. So they’re not just saying Eff This! and leaving the tents – to at least potentially create some seismic shift as they become the voting majority over the next few elections.

    1. And if he’s gonna be the first ex-Prez who never really leaves the stage/limelight, then that’s gonna make it impossible for a party that doesn’t simply decide to become a cult of personality.

      Obama already left office. And I don’t know anyone who lives in a tent. You should hang around a better class of people.

    2. Didn’t we establish yesterday that you’re a compete retard who makes dumb points then fires off childish insults at the people who refute your stupidity?

      1. +100

      2. I’m sure you really do believe that ownership of pirate ships is protected under the 2ndA. Outside of any thread that you can’t spam, that view is what would generally be considered retarded.

        1. Letters of Marque are specifically authorized in the Constitution. Do you know what those are?

          1. Shush John, facts are irrelevant to him.

          2. Pirate ships that get a government job are still not a 2nd amendment issue you twit

            1. JFree, you moron, they’re called Privateers.

              1. you call them privateers. I call them pirate ships with a government job.

                1. Then YOU are stupid. There is a distinct definition for each and no amount of YOUR self-delusion will change that.

                  1. All of which remains ENTIRELY irrelevant to the 2nd Amendment.

                    1. You’re right. It says they’re legal, and you’re wrong.

                  2. This is like watching chimpanzees debating nuclear physics.
                    Tribal left and tribal right, equally mindless bots.

                    1. Have you thrown any poo lately?

                    2. No he hasn’t.

                      Instead he’s been eating it. He thinks the turds are brownies.

                    3. Have you thrown any poo lately?

                      Twice.
                      Both documented
                      Your fuckup on Mexican dipliomats.
                      And the one one what JFree “said” about pirate ships

                    4. Last of the Shitheads: “No he hasn’t”

                      (snort) Here
                      https://reason.com/2019/08/06/the-republican-partys-retirement-problem/#comment-7883641

                      Instead he’s been eating it. He thinks the turds are brownies.

                      (smirk)

                      .

            2. You’re the fucking moron that said the 2a made them illegal you fucking goon.

              1. No I didn’t say anything about that ownership being ‘illegal’. That was YOU spamming the thread with your strawman.

                I said the 2nd did not cover any of that ownership AT FUCKING ALL. And it doesn’t.

                1. “No I didn’t say anything about that ownership being ‘illegal’.”

                  You’re a fucking liar.

                  1. You said it was necessary to pass “legislation that allows for the ownership”

                    That means that you think until such legislation pasest, they are illegal. You argued as much and lost.
                    So people can decide for themselves that you’re an idiot and liar.

                    https://reason.com/2019/08/05/does-common-sense-gun-safety-legislation-make-sense-as-a-response-to-the-el-paso-and-dayton-shootings/#comments

                    1. Is Jfree really babbling about buying ‘pirate ships’?

        2. Aaahahahahahah your stupid ass is doubling down ahahahahajaja

          No no, you’re right, all those privateers were illegal ahahahahahahaj

          1. you cannot even comprehend the concept that not everything that is owned is protected under the 2nd amendment.

            I NEVER fucking said that stuff wasn’t OWNED. I said it wasn’t PROTECTED under the 2nd amendment. And that is true.

            1. “you cannot even comprehend the concept that not everything that is owned is protected under the 2nd amendment”

              Of course I can. That wasn’t ever my point retard.

              “I NEVER fucking said that stuff wasn’t Owned”

              I never said you did retard, and that was never my point retard.

              This is fabulous on top of being wrong, you’re making yourself look illiterate as, well.

            2. “I said it wasn’t PROTECTED under the 2nd amendment”

              And you were irrefutably wrong.

              “And that is true.”

              And yet, after numerous requests, you posted not a single fact that demos treated such.

              Because you’re wrong. And you know it.

              1. And you were irrefutably wrong.

                WRONG! The Supreme Court did not even hear a 2nd Amendment case until about 100 years AFTER the last time the US had privateers. Further, there COULD never have been a case where the 2A was heard on a privateering case since all privateering was done outside the territorial waters of the US where state law does not apply under any possible interpretation of territorial sovereignty and hence no ‘state militia’ could possibly legally protect or be infringed by the feds. Just as the 2nd does not apply to the right to keep and bear arms on the Moon.

                And the only SC cases (post-2008) that deal with the 2nd as an individual right are very explicit as to ‘keep and bear’ as applying to individuals – and ‘arms’ that can only be interpreted as what are commonly known as ‘small arms’. Indeed, from Heller, the SC had an explicit opportunity to include tanks/bombers inside the protection of the 2nd when they wrote – it may be true that no amount of small
                arms could be useful against modern-day bombers and tanks. But the fact that modern developments have limited the degree of fit between the prefatory clause and the protected right cannot change our interpretation of the right
                . But they did NOT include tanks and bombers within that 2A right. Which can only mean they would think YOUR interpretation is a bunch of BS.

                You are simply full of shit.

                1. WTF are you on about? Do you need some Thorazine?

              2. Poor JFree.

                He really wants people to pay attention to no avail.

        3. See, now you are arguing on Tulpa’s turf. Don’t fall for it.

          He doesn’t care about pirate ships, the Second Amendment, letters of marque, or any substantive topic. He only cares about entrapping people with nitpicking definitional semantical games.

          Just try to have a discussion with him on what genuinely constitutes torture. It’s a serious subject and reasonable people can disagree to an extent. But not with Tulpa. He will argue for HOURS about definitions and semantics. Because he really doesn’t give a damn about the topic of torture, he only cares about trying to humiliate you.

          Don’t even engage with the asshole. He is not worth anyone’s time.

          1. You don’t even know the difference between two dictionaries but that didn’t keep you from smugly making a fool of yourself over it.

            “He only cares about entrapping people with nitpicking definitional semantical games”

            Shorter Jeff – “your dictionary says I’m wrong A SEMANTIC GAMES!!!”

            LOLOLOL

          2. “Just try to have a discussion with him on what genuinely constitutes torture. It’s a serious subject and reasonable people can disagree to an extent. But not with Tulpa. He will argue for HOURS about definitions and semantics.”

            Ahahahah

            Shorter Jeff – ” I want to talk about what constitutes torture without using definitons”

            He LITERALLY JUST SAID THAT AHAHAHAHAAJAJ

            Ahahahahahahah HOW ARE YOU THIS STUPID AHAHAHAHAJA

            1. Ahahahah

              HE SAID HE CAN’T HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT CONSTITUTES TORTURE BECAUSE DEFINTIONS ARE USED

              AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA YOU’RE DUMBER THAN JFREE NOT KNOWING PRIVATEERS ARE PERFECTLY LEGAL AHAAHAHAHAJAJ

              1. And there we go, three posts in a row confirming I’m right.

                When was Tulpa ever going to get around to discussing whether a Supermax prison constituted “torture”? Answer: never. He doesn’t care, he never did. He doesn’t give a damn.

                1. AHAHAHAH YOU APPEALED TO THE DICTIONARY FIRST DUMBASS AHAHAHHAHAHAH

                  Shorter Jeff “only my defintions count”

                  Ahahahahahahahahah how are you this retarded lolol

                  1. You’ll notice he doesn’t deny that he appealed to the dictionary first he just wants to be the only one allowed to use definitions Lololol.

                2. “When was Tulpa ever going to get around to discussing whether a Supermax prison constituted “torture”?”

                  I know right, and it’s even harder since Jeff is the only one allowed to use definitons, lolollo

                3. Ahahaha this is so delicious Jeff is actually crying because his tactic of “appeal to my cherry picked definition” totally failed and he was left stupidly confusing different dictionaries Llololololololololo

                  1. And even better is he’s doing that passive-aggressive thing where he talks about somebody instead of to them because that somebody totally triggered him and he’s too upset to have a conversation

                    1. This is like angels and pinheads. (sigh)

          3. “He doesn’t care about pirate ships”

            Does anyone?

            “…..the Second Amendment”

            Yeah he does. Unlike your Canadian child rape enthusiast ass.

            “He only cares about entrapping people with nitpicking definitional semantical games.”

            No you stupid cunt, that’s YOU. Every goddamn day here. You are an annoying little sophist piece of shit in need of a male role model to give you the collective savage beatings you’ve been missing to finally straighten your punk ass out.

          4. “He doesn’t care about pirate ships”

            Whatta jerk!

            1. Hey, crazy guntard psychos. This is what JFee REALLY said, to RIDICULE guntards … before your PSYCHOPATHIC shitfest

              https://reason.com/2019/08/06/the-republican-partys-retirement-problem/#comment-7882950
              “I’m sure you really do believe that ownership of pirate ships is protected under the 2ndA. Outside of any thread that you can’t spam, that view is what would generally be considered retarded.


              Followed by MASSIVE 53 comments of sycho lies and WHINING … from every psycho right-winger on the board .,.. thereby PROVING his claim of their retardation!!!

              The ABSOLUTE craziest thing I’ve seen … during 26 years in online
              forums … like a pack of rabid wild dogs!

              How many will deny the PROOF I just provided?
              O M F G.

              (NOTHING drives them crazier than challenges to their WACKO notion that there are NO limits to 2A gun rights,.
              NO rights are unlimited not even life. Constitution 101)

        4. “Outside of any thread that you can’t spam, that view is what would generally be considered retarded.”

          Ahahahahahahahahah

          Me – “since you didn’t post any quote supporting your stupid position that only arms that were private issue to a single person and not military, or requiring multiple people to operate, let me introduce you to the concept of privateers which irrefutable proves you wrong ”

          Him -” Nuh UHHHHHH! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEtard!!!! ”

          Lololol

          1. Me – “since you didn’t post any quote supporting your stupid position that only arms that were private issue to a single person and not military, or requiring multiple people to operate, let me introduce you to the concept of privateers which irrefutable proves you wrong ”

            Privateers have NO relevance to the militia clause! And Scalia’s Heller ruling PROVES you wrong.

            The militia clause limits the protection to modern versions of the guns that were brought from home, for militia service … pistols and muskets, modern versions.

            Oh yeah, we no longer use a citizen’s militia to defend America!
            READ THE AMENDMENT …. AND THE NRA TOTALLY HELPLESS AGAINST THE AUTOMATIC WEAPONS BAN … FOR TEN LONG YEARS A

        5. JFree, they’re called Privateers.

          Pirates work outside the law.

          Privateers are privately owned ships and crew that work under a government commission.

          1. This was explained to him. He got salty and fled.

          2. fine. Privateers are pirate ships with a government job.

            1. Poor JFree.

              He admits he is wrong but still cannot get the difference between Pirates and Privateers down.

              1. That was RIDICULE, goober. And your entire psycho assault is blown to pieces here.
                https://reason.com/2019/08/06/the-republican-partys-retirement-problem/#comment-7883614

            2. I’m glad you admit I was right and you
              were wrong and maded a fool of yourself.

              Baby steps.

      3. “fires off childish insults”

        Talk about projection. Get your mommy to check your diaper.

        1. Oh I’m totally a hypocrite. Why does that Trigger you enough to spoof people Shreek?

          Wait, you think “as good as Tulpa” is a GOOD THING?

          AHAHAHAJA I’M A TROLL MOTHERFUCKER.

          1. Yeah, something needs to be done about Kiddie Raper. Any thoughts?

      4. Didn’t we establish yesterday that you’re a compete retard who makes dumb points then fires off childish insults at the people who refute your stupidity?

        That’s what you just did!

        1. Hihn……….you are a discredited troll with severe mental issues. You should seek out greener pastures. Especially considering we all know where you live.

          1. Now the crazy motherfuckers are cyber-terrorists, making death threats.

  9. Hurd might well be succeeded by a dem, but unlikely that most others will. Doesn’t really matter since dems control the House right now. The weak links were mostly cleared in 2018 and I don’t think the dems stand to gain more than a few seats in 2020. I don’t really give a shit anyway-would be glad to see the end of the Trump fan club…

    1. And have it replaced by the Kamala Harris or Elizabeth Warren fan club? Go on.

      1. How about “no fan club”. How about we move away from the cult of personality of the president. How about Congress assert itself as an independent branch of government.

        1. Dude, Obama left office in 2017. Calm down.

        2. “”How about we move away from the cult of personality of the president. “‘

          I would love to see that. But the dems are heavy into it. Look at the rebellion because the cult of Clinton didn’t win the election.

      2. With a few exceptions, most presidents in my lifetime have been a cult of personality. Certainly if a dem wins in 2020, they will have theirs too, and the cycle will repeat itself, where they lose the moderates and are left with their hardcore fan base.

        1. Heh…was LBJ in your lifetime? Nobody but he thought his presidency was a cult of personality. Nixon, Ford, Carter? OK, I guess I can tell how old you are.

  10. “who seems to go out of his way to transform every political discussion into a forum on his dubious personal merits”

    Peter Suderman, throwing caution to the winds. How about “compulsively transforms every political discussion into a forum on his utterly revolting self”? I mean, accuracy counts, doesn’t it?

    1. I agree Vanneman. Suderman is utterly revolting. Damn, I never thought you would be so harsh to a reason staffer. I stand corrected.

    2. I mean, accuracy counts, doesn’t it?

      Obviously not for you.
      Such severe denial is a psychological impairment.

      1. Kill yourself.

        1. You lose on THAT too.

  11. I was listening to Peter Hitchens discuss his time as a political correspondent for Parliament– something he’d desperately wanted as a young journalist.

    Once there, he describes it as one of the most profoundly disappointing experiences of his life. He really thought he was going to be in a chamber of the minds discussing the most vexing problems of the culture- and what he discovered was the whole thing was a middle school, catty popularity contest: who’s up, who’s down, who’s in, who’s out etc.

    1. Think about the kind of person who could run for Congress today. The person would have to have the money to leave their job and campaign full time. Who other than the independently wealthy or people who literally have nowhere else to go but politics could do that? And why would anyone other than broken freaks or crooks want to?

      1. Just watch Veep.
        Most accurate fictional show there ever was

        1. I thought Julia Louis-Dryfus was a raging Lefty but she has no problem playing an incompetent, stupid, and corrupt Democrat on that show.

        2. No, it’s not cynical enough!

          1. Really?
            I can’t really imagine how it could be any more cynical

        3. I always thought “Yes, Minister” had a good degree of truthiness, too.

        4. The show it’s loosely based on, ‘The Thick of it’, is even better. Same creative team too.

          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_iHF3TH0WNc

  12. Let it be said that at least we’ll know that those left will be legislators who tacitly support a white supremacist and sexual predator who can’t even read the word “Ohio” from a teleprompter. That is information that’s worth knowing.

    1. Trump got around 30% of the Hispanic vote. Are 30% of Hispanics “white supremacist”? Damn. You shouldn’t be so hard on your own kind Mexican

      1. Nothing unusual about it. There were African Americans who fought for the Confederacy. Just imagine the insanity of fighting and dyimg for people who consider you a subhuman. People are crazy.

        1. Yeah, two or three. Out of four million slaves. Some American citizens went and fought for the Nazis. Some people are crazy.

        2. Just imagine the insanity of fighting and dying for people who consider you a subhuman. People are crazy.

          Why do YOU argue that African Americans should resign the military, or refuse to enlist, while Trump remains Commander-in-Chief?

          1. Hihnfaggot, kill yourself.

            1. Why does Last of the Shitheads DEFEND that African Americans should resign the military, or refuse to enlist, while Trump remains Commander-in-Chief?

      2. I thought he was talking about Bill Clinton.

    2. Fuck off SQRLSY.

      1. I think Old Mexican is his own franchise of stupidity. I don’t think he is a sock.

        1. I do. He outed himself as SQRLSY a long time back.

          1. Wow. I missed that. There was an “Old Mexican” around for years. I wonder if at some point it became a sock puppet and that explains why it went crazy. The original Old Mexican was not unreasonable or particularly stupid. This one is.

    3. Trump has a 40+ approval among Hispanics.

      Also, 57 states.

  13. Suderman is right about the productivity part. When was the last time there was any sort of broad debate in Congress about anything? I know it’s a cliche that when Congress isn’t doing anything that it is a good sign, but truly there are some things that Congress has to do even for a person who doesn’t want Congress to do much at all, and Congress barely seems capable of doing even that.

    1. Such as deciding if the US is going to have a border or we’re just going back to colonial status

      1. You and your semantics.

  14. I’m glad Trump is making things hard for them. I can’t stomach him and he is nothing but a national disgrace. However, with the exception of only a few, so are all of the Republicans. None of them have the guts to stand up to him; to call him out when he’s wrong or says/does something harmful or divisive for our country; nor ever opts to choose country over party and right over wrong. McConnell, Graham, McCarthy, Cornyn, Cruz, et al all deserve to have their careers explode and go down in flames.

    1. To be fair, it wasn’t all that different between Democrats and the Cult of Obama.

      At least however there WERE a few times when there actually was some daylight between what Pelosi/Reid wanted, and what Obama wanted.

      This time around, with Cult of Trump, loyalty to the Cult Chief seems to be rather more ruthlessly enforced.

      1. To be fair, you’re an imbecile who has lost every single interaction you have ever had with me, and has resorted to hiding in order to avoid more embarrassment.

    2. I can’t stomach him and he is nothing but a national disgrace.

      Considering that he was elected for the primary purpose of telling half wits like you to fuck off, that is good to know.

    3. #MAGA

      If you don’t like Trump, he must be doing something right.

  15. If you think it’s hard being a Republican when the party leadership is supporting Trump, you should have seen what it was like being a Republican when the leadership was supporting people like Bob Dole and George Bush and John McCain and Mitt Romney.

    1. Well I think things are a little bit different this time. Recall that Gingrich called Dole “tax collector for the welfare state”, and when Dole ran for president, I don’t recall him demanding a purge of Gingrich or his followers for their disloyalty to him personally.

      Plenty of Republicans were allowed to say mean disloyal things about McCain and Romney and not have their careers ruined over their supposed treachery.

      1. Bob Dole had no power. He was never president.

        Gingrich was speaker of the House.

        1. And a hypocritical adulterer who invented the destruction of the United States system of government via petty hypocritical ratfucking terribleness. Your hero.

          1. But enough about Bill Clinton……..

      2. “Well I think things are a little bit different this time”

        Jeff, stupidly whines about semantics then does that.

    2. Best post I’ve read yet Jerryskids.

      I completely disagree with Suderman. He seems to be on the RINO GOP establishment side, rather than celebrate retiring RINOs. He’s clearly not on Trump’s side, and where is the analysis of how libertarian, or not, these retirees are?

      But it’s also just hard to be a Republican under Trump, period.

      It doesn’t seem hard for Rand Paul to work under Trump, and it almost looks like Trump is promoting Paul for 2024. That’s great for libertarians. Trump has also promoted the Freedom Caucus and Mark Meadows.

      “the fun and interesting things are becoming a much smaller part of the job, while the tedious and soul-crushing aspects are increasingly occupying members’ time.”

      Government is a necessary evil and running it should be soul-crushing, rather than say making deals using your government position to get rich like RINOs do.

      It seems half the Reason staff is so used to rightly trashing our elected leaders, they don’t recognize the most libertarian president, and perhaps even more so than Reagan, we’ve had in our lifetimes. Like Reagan, he can’t fight Congress on spending because it’s a battle he’ll lose, he’s trying to eliminate tariffs, and he wants immigrants to be law abiding and productive rather than have lots of criminals and welfare seekers.

  16. “Trump makes everything about Trump”

    Good thing the last president didn’t do that, amirite?

    1. He’s still not.

      1. And you’re Hihn. Fuck off SQRLSY.

        1. You’re still a thug, with delusions

          In your “mind” is EVERYONE who defends libertarian values here just one guy named Hihn.

          And why do you claim that EVERY TIME you LOSE on an actual issue?

    2. Bob Dole says you should have elected Bob Dole and Bob Dole would not have gotten you in this mess.

  17. It’s the death spiral that’s destroying both dead parties. Tribal liberals and tribal conservatives are now less than 40% of voters … combined … and still shrinking,

    As the now-voiceless majority rejects loyalty to either party, this gives a louder voice to both extremes … which drives away more voters … which makes the extremes even louder … which drives away yet more … a death spiral.

    Blame the partisan primaries, which are still the required gateway. We’re increasingly governed by a minority … the very worst of both extremes.

    2020 could wind up with a crypto fascist vs a crypto socialist … with the majority still voiceless.

    Libertarians saw it decades ago.

    “Left and right are obsolete.”

    “Liberals want government out of your bedroom and into your wallet. Conservatives want government out of your wallet and into your bedroom.”

    Fascists to the left of us. Fascists to the right of us … while over 60% of voters reject both. The Founders feared this. Party has trumped Constitution. Which is why Jefferson so strongly opposed the Constitution as adopted.

    Will America continue dying?

    1. Will you continue being a moron Hihn? And posting as SQRLSY Hihn?

      1. I made a TOTAL ass out of TrickyVic on this!
        And when you whine like a PUSSY, I know you’ve lost again, which is why you’fre such a chickenshit COWARD on dealing with actual issues .,.. instead of being such a thug

        1. “I made a TOTAL ass out of TrickyVic on this!”

          How so, I missed it?

          1. I’ll add that to the list.

          2. P.S, Immediately below.

    2. “”Party has trumped Constitution.””

      Yeah, that tends to happen we people treat the bill of rights as privileges, not rights. Gives preferences to rights they like vs rights they don’t like. And makes up rights that are not enumerated to trump rights that are.

      1. Yeah, Republican are exactly that bad.
        No different than Democrats.

        And you are TOTALLY fucking stupid on the Bill of Rights!!
        Enumerated rights are a TINY FRACTION of our fundamental rights .. as GUARANTEED by ….. the Ninth Amendment.

        The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people

        What you will learn, if you make it to high school and US History … there are rights, NEVER ENUMERATED ,… that cannot be denied or disparaged by ANY level of government. The Declaration’s unalienable rights, incorporated ino the Constitution.
        .
        1) What are those rights? Can you list them?
        2) How are they defined and defended from you fascists?

        Gives preferences to rights they like vs rights they don’t like. And makes up rights that are not enumerated to trump rights that are.

        (sneer)
        Ever the knuckle-dragging conservative

        1. Poor Hihn.

          1. COWARDLY DIVERSION … as ANOTHER Trumpard is PROUDLY ignorant on ENUMERATED RIGHTS and the NINTH AMENDMENT!!!!

            (Posted in defense of repeated aggression and assorted thuggery by a coward on the issues)

            1. Calling you poor is not aggression

              1. Google “verbal aggression” and “definiton.”

            2. Most of us just attack you anymore. There is no discussing anything with you.

              We want you to die. Please do so immediately.

              1. Las
                We want you to die.

                Because I RIDICULED Tricky Vic’s IGNORANCE of the Consitutkion abnd enumeratded rights>

                1. Last of the Shitheads
                  We want you to die.

                  a) Because I RIDICULED Tricky Vic’s IGNORANCE of the Constitution and enumerated rights … the issue HE raised?

                  b) Or because you’re an alt-right self-admitted thug, and proud of it.

                  c) Or because you REPEATEDLY fail to silence me when your safe space is violated, Snowflake?

                  BOOGA BOOGA

  18. Trump puts the bully in bully pulpit!

    The Heffalumps needed a bully to stand up to the party of outrage and religion of peace.

  19. The Republican parties troubles started long before Trump, and the lone black Rep. is not it. It is how old they all are now. The Republicans really need some new young blood.

    1. Or a brain, with some ethics.

      1. Things you know note about. Kill yourself.

    2. Only Lefties care about race and how many Niggers the Democrats have on the plantation.

      1. That’s unusually sick, even from you.
        But not surprising from the Authoritarian Right.

        1. Really? How is it “sick” to point out that Democrats hate minorities and that Democrats use racist language to refer to minorities?

          1. HE SAID “NIGGER” YOU CRAZY-FUCK CONSERVATARD AND BIGOT.

            1. Yes he did; he did that to point out how Democrats think and talk about minorities.

          2. PART 2

            How is it “sick” to point out that Democrats hate minorities and that Democrats use racist language to refer to minorities?

            it’s a bat-shit psycho lie … that he even said that … AND that you “think” it’s true.

            1. it’s a bat-shit psycho lie … that he even said that … AND that you “think” it’s true.

              What I think it’s true is that the Democrats have always looked down on racial minorities and still do; that Democrats have always wanted to enslave racial minorities and continue to do so; and that Democrats use disparaging language to refer to racial minorities. I’m sorry you don’t see that, but that’s your problem, not mine.

      2. Poor Hihn.

        Someone gave him a tablet to use in the bath tub today.

    3. Or they can all resign in shame.

      1. They could. But why should they? Their counterparts in the Democratic party are shameless.

    4. The Republican parties troubles started long before Trump, and the lone black Rep. is not it. It is how old they all are now. The Republicans really need some new young blood.

      Agreed. And if you look at young Republicans, they run rings around young Democrats in terms of knowledge, skill, and reason.

  20. This guy didn’t want to suffer through a brutal election in a competitive district for the privilege of being in a minority party?

    Shocking.

    Oh and there is the matter of his district boundaries being up for change. Ironically a black congressman is accused of representing a district that disadvantages minorities.

    In March 2017 a three-member panel of federal judges invalidated the Texas State Legislature’s 2011 drawing of three congressional districts (Hurd’s 23rd district, the 27th district, and the 35th district), finding that Texas had intentionally discriminated against blacks and Latinos in violation of either the U.S. Constitution or the Voting Rights Act.[73][74] It is unclear what effect this will have on the three districts, especially Hurd’s, as his election victory occurred using a court-approved 2013 interim map that differed from the 2011 map.[73]

  21. GOP leadership has also played a role…in centralizing legislative power and turning ordinary Republican lawmakers—especially in the House—into fundraising machines who are expected to show up and vote the way they’re told but have little impact on actual legislation. That’s at least part of how you end up with the pair of big-spending budget deals that have passed in the last two years

    Odd, because in the past it’s been said that what’s needed to get budget discipline was more central party control — that independent-minded legislators were a large factor in budgets full of spending for you and you and you.

    But at the federal level now discretionary spending hardly matters any more. The big picture has nothing to do with party control.

    1. How do you explain tghat Trump’s GOP has ALREADY added more 8-year debt (CBO forecast) than Obama after AFTER 8 years … before this spending bill … that he promised to veto ,… as PHONY as his campaign promise to pay off the entire debt in only 8 years. … instead the ONLY President to EVER increase the deficit by over 40% … IN A BOOMING ECONOMY.

      Even worse, Trump inherited the longest recovery EVER for an incoming President …. from Obama … who inherited the second-worst recession since the 1930s

      How does YOUR dictionary define Total Fucking Failure?

  22. “When you imply that because someone doesn’t look like you, in telling them to go back to Africa or wherever, you’re implying that they’re not an American and you’re implying that they have less worth than you,” Hurd told The Washington Post.

    Trump told a bunch of self-proclaimed socialists who keep harping on their distinct ethnicity (and two of whom are white) to go back to the socialist shitholes that their families immigrated from to see how much better the US is.

    The fact that Hurd interprets such a simple anti-socialist message in terms of race is reprehensible. Racists like Hurd belong in the Democratic party. Good riddance.

  23. LIAR … HE TOLD THEM TO GO BACK TO THE COUNTRIES THEY CAME FROM … NOT where “their families” came from. Shame on you.

    (and two of whom are white)

    LIAR

    To go back to the socialist shitholes that their families immigrated from to see how much better the US is.

    YOU DEFEND THAT?
    YOU BELIEVE TRUMP CREATED AMERICA.?
    YOU BELIEVE THAT’S NOT PURE AUTHORITARIANISM.

    a bunch of self-proclaimed socialists

    SICK LIAR.

    How low will you people SINK, to defend this hate-spewing BIGOT … who DEFENDED racists and neo-nazis in Charlottesville … and even LIED about who started the violence?

    YOUR America is a shithole. In MY America, we enjoy the Right of Free Speech ,,, and NOT for just our own cronies … and NO other President has EVER attacked and assaulted people for …. DISAGREEING.

    WE FOUGHT A REVOLUTION TO ESCAPE A KING .. AND WE NEVER ELECTED ONE.

    1. (and two of whom are white)

      LIAR

      AOC and Tlaib are objectively white (white Hispanic and white Muslim, respectively).

      To go back to the socialist shitholes that their families immigrated from to see how much better the US is.

      YOU DEFEND THAT?

      Having emigrated from a socialist shithole myself, of course I defend that.

      a bunch of self-proclaimed socialists

      SICK LIAR.

      AOC and Tlaib are official members of the Democratic Socialists of America.

      YOUR America is a shithole.

      My America has treated me quite well over the several decades that I have lived here. I hope it will continue that way for a few more decades, which is why I speak out against people like “The Squad” and people like you who want to destroy “MY America”.

  24. You should add State Sen. John McCollister, of Nebraska. He has dared to question Trump and so was told to leave the party. You know if enough people resign and or are forced out, they could get together and form a political party. Maybe call it Classic Republican Party, to differentiate from the New Trump Republican Party.

    1. Maybe call it Classic Republican Party

      You mean the Classic Republican Party, the party hijacked by Christian fundamentalists, war mongers, and corporate lobbyists? Yeah, that Classic Republican Party will surely be a success!

      1. Problem with your point is that the fundamentalist are now with Trump, war monger like John Bolton and Mike Pompeo work for President Trump, and corporate lobbyist fill out the rest of President Trumps cabinet. What is missing from the New Trump Republican party are the deficient hawks, the free traders, libertarians, and those who will to build international relationship. So I do think you have a starting point for Classic Republicans.

  25. And I’m supposed to feel bad about Turd leaving? I think the R in RINO stands for retirement now. Even if I hated everything Trump stood for, this purge of the party is amazing.

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