Debates 2020

Don't Watch This Week's Democratic Debates

Do anything else. Literally anything else. Please.

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If we're going to treat presidential elections as the political equivalent of the Super Bowl, is it too much to ask that we also treat the early Democratic debates like meaningless preseason football games?

That's what the Democratic presidential debates taking place this week in Miami, Florida, really are. Like spring training baseball, these debates are about star players trying to avoid season-ending injuries while giving minor-leaguers a chance to show their stuff, even if they don't stand a chance of making the opening day roster.

All but the most die-hard fans ignore these matches. Dear reader, I hope you do the same with this week's debates.

Do anything else. Pet your dog. Talk to your spouse. Call a friend you haven't seen in a while. Take a walk. Go to a ballgame, or at least watch one on TV. If you need a hit of patriotism, there's a match tonight between the U.S. men's soccer team and Panama that will provide all the red, white, and blue bunting you crave. Sure, soccer's offside rule might not make sense, but neither does Bernie Sanders' plan to cancel student loan debt—and the soccer game is sure to feature fewer own-goals than a debate that includes Bill de Blasio.

Or, go to a movie. If you want to see a rowdy bunch of weirdos challenge a big bad guy who has misguided ideas about how to create prosperity—well, I think Avengers: Endgame is still playing at some theaters.

The point is: you have options, and most of them are better than watching the first two Democratic debates.

Nothing that happens on stage in Miami this week is going to decide the outcome of the 2020 presidential election. How could it? We are more than 220 days from the very first votes being cast. Unless you live in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, or South Carolina, you have until March 2020 to make up your mind about which Democrat to support. Most of the people on stage this week won't even be in the race by then. You will have forgotten their names, assuming you bothered to learn them in the first place (by the way, there are two "n"s and one "t" in "Michael Bennet").

You want proof all this is starting too soon? In mid-June 2015—220-ish days before the first votes were cast in the last election cycle—Donald Trump had only just declared his candidacy. The first debate wasn't held until August. That means someone at the Democratic National Committee looked at the clown show that was the 2016 presidential election and decided Hey, you know what the problem was? The campaign didn't last long enough.

Bad ratings are the only way these folks are going to learn their lesson.

If you do plan to watch the debates this week, I hope you'll ask yourself what there is to glean from watching former congressman John Delaney (polling at 0.4 percent) try to grab the spotlight for 30 seconds. Do you really believe that Rep. Eric Swalwell (D–Calif., polling at less than 0.1 percent) or writer/"spiritual guru" Marianne Williamson (also less than 0.1 percent) is going to blow your mind Thursday night?

If you watch, you are wasting your time. And time is money. In his excellent 2011 book The Ethics of Voting, Jason Brennan calculates that—under the most generous of circumstances—a vote in a national election is worth about 1/2,600th of a penny. Sure, you want that vote to be an informed one, but you can get informed without watching this week's debates.

Read a book. Try out a new video game. Make pot brownies. Sit outside and stare at the sky. Any of those things will do more for your mental state, and the opportunity cost is so low it effectively doesn't exist.

Voting in the Democratic primaries or the general election next year doesn't require sitting through two nights of cattle-call debates more than six months before the first primary votes are cast. If one of the candidates comes to your town, go see what they have to say. Pay attention to the news, if you can bear it.

But when it comes to these made-for-Twitter democracy gameshows, you can wait to tune in until later this year, when the field has narrowed and there's a chance for real clash and conflict between debate participants. If you must know what happens on Wednesday and Thursday night this week, all the important parts will be replayed ad nauseam for the next few days on cable news. (And of course, read our ongoing coverage here at Reason dot com!)

Check the box scores and watch the highlights—if you must—but please, please try to ignore politics for just a few hours tonight.

NEXT: The YIMBY Movement Has Made it to D.C. Republicans Are Leading the Way.

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  1. . Make pot brownies.

    Then watch the debate.

    1. Why are you still here after Reason banned you?

      1. I was banned?

        Are you sure you’re just not a fucking asshole?

        1. You want me to post the link with you running your sock puppet and admitting it again?
          OK.

          https://reason.com/2019/02/26/bernie-sanders-cnn-townhall-foreign-poli/#comment-7690879

          1. Oh, so I wasn’t banned. Glad you saved the link where I admitted I lost my password.

            1. “…Glad you saved the link where I admitted I lost my password.”

              That’s not the way “lied” is spelled, turd.

            2. Ahahahahaahahahahahahha.

              WE CAN READ WHAT YOU WROTE BITCH!!!!

              AHAHAHAHAHHAHAJAHAHAH

              “Why are you disrespecting Reason’s request for you to leave? You got banned. Live by your principles and respect their property rights.

              moneyshot
              February.26.2019 at 11:12 am
              Reason has my email address.

              For all I know some conservative asswipe in IT made an editorial decision on his own.

              HE FORGOT YOUR PASSWORD FOR YOU?

              AHAHAHAHAHAHAH THAT EXCUSE IS FUCKING RETARDED AHAHAHAHAHJA

              1. HE FORGOT YOUR PASSWORD FOR YOU?

                No, I lost it myself, you lying Trumptrash.

                1. AHAHAHAHAHAHAH THAT EXCUSE IS FUCKING RETARDED AHAHAHAHAHJA

                  1. Buttplug the Pedo “Forget that I’ve lied repeatedly about paying my bets and running sockpuppets, and BELIEVE ME when I tell you I wasn’t banned for posting kiddie porn links despite PEOPLE SEEING THEM”

                    AHHHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHA GO WITH THAT PLUGGO!!!

                2. Reason will send your registered email account a reset link. Sorry but “forgetting your password” is not an excuse for a screen handle that has been around for decades going down the memory hole.

                  You got banned for putting up instructions for accessing child porn and everyone knows it. Stop lying.

                  1. John
                    June.26.2019 at 4:34 pm
                    “Reason will send your registered email account a reset link. Sorry but “forgetting your password” is not an excuse for a screen handle that has been around for decades going down the memory hole.”

                    This has been obvious since the first time he floated the lie about ‘forgetting a password’; bullshit.
                    When you forget a password, you click on the ‘forgot your password?’ tab and go from there.
                    Does he think we’re all still drooling over AOL on our 56kbs dial-up service?

                    1. Who’d you have to blow to get 56kbps?

            3. You claimed some conservative IT flack banned you and never mentioned your password once. Holy fuck nigga, you realize everyone here can read right?

              1. And forget that he was sockpuppeting… Which he lied about NEVER doing…

              2. For all I know

                Dumb fuck.

                I enjoy you conservative asswipes desperation to ban a classic liberal for your Lord and Savious – The Dotard.

                1. I’m a sock for Palin’s Buttplug, who got banned for posting child pornogtaphy links.

                2. Sarah Palin’s Buttplug
                  June.26.2019 at 3:44 pm
                  “Dumb fuck.”

                  That mirror is a bitch, turd.
                  You were gone long enough, I’d hoped you died and made the world a better, smarter and more honest place.
                  Fuck off, you pathetic excuse for humanity.

                3. What the fuck is a “savious” you fucking pedo?

                4. And:

                  Sarah Palin’s Buttplug
                  June.26.2019 at 3:44 pm
                  “…I enjoy you conservative asswipes desperation to ban a classic liberal…”

                  Man, the lies just keep on coming!
                  A ‘classic liberal’ who favors government price-fixing on the ‘net!
                  Tell us again about how O’care is ‘classic liberal, you fucking liar.

              3. “Holy fuck nigga, you realize everyone here can read right?”

                turd is famous for lying in ways even more obvious than Tony.
                Ask him to tell us again about the wonderous Obo, who started with the economy in the tank, and managed to keep it from getting a whole let better for 8 years, while turd tells us of ‘tremendous growth’ through the magic of cherry-picking.
                There are few more despicable characters than turd posting here.

            4. You were banned. That’s why your handle is somewhat different now. Also, due to your child porn link, that whole thread was scrubbed, but lots of people saw it.

              So yes, Kiddie Raper, you were banned for child porn links. Stop lying about it.

              1. Shut up, you fucking white trash redneck TrumpTard.

                1. “So yes, Kiddie Raper, you were banned for child porn links. Stop lying about it.”
                  And telling people to shut up about it won’t help your case.

                2. Hate to agree with a massive asshole such as yourself, but IIRC when you’re banned you get completely memory-holed, and all your previous posts are erased. (See: Hihn.) Your stink is still all over the place on old threads.

                  Guess you really couldn’t find the password and you really are too stupid to figure out how to reset it.

                  No idea what happened with your child porn link — Reason obviously removed it, but apparently felt you didn’t deserve banning. So, to recap: kiddie porn links don’t get you erased from Reason, but sneering and using boldface too much will.

                  1. There may be different power levels for the BAN HAMMER. Maybe he just got the light touch?

        2. And I am a GIGANTIC asshole, but I pay my bets.

          1. “…but I pay my bets.”

            Much too honorable for that lying sack of shit.

            1. Sevo is one of Tulpa’s socks.

              A dried up cum stained one at that.

              1. Somebody’s cranky. Go have a stroke to your folder of Lizzie Warren deepfakes and feel better.

              2. You’re a pedophile who got banned, admitted it, and is sadly trying to walk it back by insulting people.

              3. “Sevo is one of Tulpa’s socks.”

                Unlike turd, I’ve never once used a sock, although several scumbags have tried to appropriate Sevo, and it wouldn’t surprise me on bit if this lying piece of shit was one of them.

              4. “A dried up cum”

                What is with this weird obsession with effluvium you have moneyshot?

          2. Who the fuck are you, a Lannister or something? LOL

        3. Sarah, I hope you’re never banned because first, I don’t believe in censorship except in child porn cases, and secondly you’re comments are so ridiculous, that I almost blow a bowel laughing at you.

          1. Well he got banned for child porn. So yeah.

    2. We know you’re a Pete Buttplug guy, Weigel. Mostly because he’s a homo and you’re a (closeted) homo who fantasizes about riding the hershey highway to South Bend.

    3. I was thinking of getting recording the debates, then using an AV editor to add a canned 70’s era laugh track.

      It seems appropriate.

      1. LOL

        That would be awesome.

    4. Don’t watch the Buttplug and Tulpa show. Do anything else tonight.

  2. Don’t worry Eric, I won’t be tuning in.

  3. Well it does make for a good drinking game. But two nights and plenty of gaffs makes for a sucky hangover.

    1. You need a group for that, of course. It could be fun as a sort of group activity.

  4. I’m going to watch it just for the ads, sort of like the super bowl.

    1. So you learn who to boycott?

      1. Woke fil A
        “Eat Mor of Our Own”

        1. Nice! 🙂

  5. We already know what’s going to be said so there isn’t much point in watching. In no particular order; immigrant crisis, climate crisis, black scary looking gun crisis, Trump crisis, & free ponies for everyone!

    1. > …free ponies for everyone!

      That dude is actually going to run under the LP banner.

      1. Oh how I wish that was a joke.

    2. How is the climate a crisis though? Temperatures are rising a bit, if at all. Sea levels are rising very slowly (glacially slow?) They could spend 5 trillion dollars trying to stop it, and it wouldn’t change the weather one tenth of a degree.

      1. Get woke, dude. The oceans are rising so fast the Rockies will just be a series of small islands in 10 years.

  6. Hey, Boehm finally got one right.

    It doesn’t make up for “MARKET’S IMPLODING!!!” when they move fractionally, but credit where it’s due.

    1. Boehm just doesn’t want his progressive buddies to get too exposed.
      Gonna be pretty fucking embarrassing for him to keep carrying their water if we’ve all seen their debates.
      Won’t stop him though

      1. This. “Please don’t watch the Democrat candidates shamelessly gyrate to chase the leftist base of their party!”

        Makes it so much harder when they try to pretend to be “moderates: later.

    2. What is crumbling infrastructure, chopped liver?

  7. Why bother when we can just get the DNC talking points from you tomorrow right here at Reason?

    1. And read the comments for the GOP talking points

        1. Please do not slander me like this. Some people will get the wrong idea.

        2. It’s new Jeff.

          1. NewJeff has shown the potential to shift his development into being NewTony instead.
            The above post is an example.
            Jeff, in typical progressive manner, entirely lacks a sense of humor.
            I hope Melvin goes the NewTony route.
            Still psychotic, but much more likeable.

  8. That’s the plan.

  9. When you perseverate so much [“don’t watch it” “do anything but” “anything at all”] it begins to sound like you are either trying to hide something or are attempting to employ reverse psychology to get us to do just the opposite. I think I’ll tune in and get back to you tomorrow.

  10. Don’t have to tell me twice; there’s some very pleasant pale blue paint which needs watching as it dries!

  11. If soccer didn’t have an offsides rule Jozy Altidore would camp out and make friends with every other team’s goalie.

  12. Tulpa/Sevo – both shit from the same asshole.

    You are why Reason can’t have nice things. Who wants to post with you trolling this site?

    1. “Why are you disrespecting Reason’s request for you to leave? You got banned. Live by your principles and respect their property rights.

      moneyshot
      February.26.2019 at 11:12 am
      Reason has my email address.

      For all I know some conservative asswipe in IT made an editorial decision on his own.

      HE FORGOT YOUR PASSWORD FOR YOU?

      AHAHAHAHAHAHAH THAT EXCUSE IS FUCKING RETARDED AHAHAHAHAHJA

    2. “Who wants to post with you trolling this site?”

      Who cares what you, a pedophile who got banned, thinks?

    3. Sarah Palin’s Buttplug
      June.26.2019 at 3:47 pm
      “Tulpa/Sevo – both shit from the same asshole.”

      Poor turd, called for bullshit by more than one person! Why, oh, why can’t he post lies here and not get called on it? How can the world be so unfair.
      Stuff it, you pathetic piece of shit.

      “…Who wants to post with you trolling this site?”
      “You” would be turd? Sure seems so.

    4. Sevo’s a delight, and I won’t stand here and let him be slandered.

      1. My GOODNESS!

      2. Oh shit you’re back? God that fucking sucks. You’re terrible.

  13. I am sure Reason is very proud of their conservative white trash dingleberries – Tulpa/Sevo.

    1. Methinks the pedo Buttplug doth protest too much…

  14. In the American spirit of competition, this should be done as a 24 person tournament bracket with 1st round byes to the old guard (Bernie, Lizzy, Hilly, Tail Gunner Joe).

    Internet voting, 7 question head to head format. Maybe broken into quadrants by more/less socialist, more/less intersectional grievance. Narrow down to four by years end.

    1. I went through this scenario a few weeks back (there were only 23 candidates then).
      I think the final 4 ended up being Harris, Buttigieg, Klobuchar, and the sleeper – Swalwell.
      I’ll have to see if I can find the thread

    2. Will ties be decided by a shootout?

      1. Staring contest

    3. Can they have one bracket for the old white not-crazy guys?

  15. Apparently they have a horizontal line theme going on with the debate stage.

  16. The real entertainment will be Trump trashing them on twitter. And the headlines tomorrow will have his name all over it because this batch of losers have nothing to say besides bashing him, white people, and attempts to bribe the country with free shit

  17. If it were done Thunderdome-style, I would watch it live. Otherwise, unless Biden trips and breaks his Viagra boner, I can’t think of a reason why I would want to watch a bunch of socialists one-up each other in how much of my money they can give away.

    1. I’m really hoping someone gets feisty tonight (c’mon Tulsi!) and goes after the DNC’s preferred candidate, Fauxcahontes Warren

  18. Hadn’t planned on it.

  19. I have to watch the democrats make fools of themselves.
    It balances out how Trump makes a fool of himself.
    Laughs galore from both sides!

  20. gonna get beaten into the ground next-day anyway why bother?

  21. “”The point is: you have options, and most of them are better than watching the first two Democratic debates.”‘

    Sounds like someone who is a sports fan only during the playoffs.

  22. I plan to watch just to hear people talk about issue like they have studied them. While time is short I expect to hear multiple syllable words instead of a bunch of adjectives. I expect a good thoughtful debate, not President Trump talking very really good.

    1. I expect a good thoughtful debate

      You must be new to this.

    2. “I plan to watch just to hear people talk about issue like they have studied them. While time is short I expect to hear multiple syllable words instead of a bunch of adjectives. I expect a good thoughtful debate, not President Trump talking very really good.”

      Don’t quit your TDS treatments.

      1. How about you? Did you complete ODS treatment?

        1. “How about you? Did you complete ODS treatment?”

          I’m perfectly comfortable with reality; you should take a look at it once in your life.
          Or not; I can hope TDS is fatal in your case.

  23. As long as you have a brain capable of critical thinking* there’s no reason not to absorb as much information about the race as possible in order to make an informed decision

    *Does not apply to FOX News junkies.

    1. You have never made an informed decision in your life. Besides, you are going to think exactly what CNN and MSNBC tell you to think. So, why are you wasting your time watching it?

      1. Maybe, but CNN and MSNBC traffic in facts. FOX News is a Republican party propaganda outfit. These differences matter, rather vitally.

        1. Maybe, but CNN and MSNBC traffic in facts

          Tony finally admits that he beleives whatever he is told to believe but that is okay because FACTS

          You are a riot sometimes Tony.

        2. Maybe, but CNN and MSNBC traffic in facts. FOX News is a Republican party propaganda outfit.

          MSNBC has been shown repeatedly to be at least as biased and counterfactual as FOX. CNN ain’t far behind.

          People who say “no FOX yes MSNBC” are every bit as idiotic and uninformed as those who say “yes FOX no MSNBC.”

          1. According to pew studies, MSNBC is far more biased.

        3. Tony
          June.26.2019 at 4:39 pm
          “Maybe, but CNN and MSNBC traffic in facts. FOX News is a Republican party propaganda outfit. These differences matter, rather vitally.”

          Tony posted that as if anyone here or anywhere outside of his bubble would find that other than laughable.

        4. Fine. You won. You’re more retarded than Jeff.

    2. So you’re admitting you’re not watching.

  24. On the one hand, no matter how this train wreck ends, it will cost me money. On the other hand, this is just the first few cars jumping the tracks. Maybe I won’t waste my time rubbernecking until it reaches the caboose.

    1. Why watch the whole train wreck when you can just gawk at the gory parts on the internet?

  25. They should let Trump moderate it and give a rose to whomever he thinks won the debate. That would be made for TV entertainment.

    1. Can he fire one or more of them?

  26. since i have no influence in the outcome I’ll wait till the final four before i pay attention and even then maybe not

  27. I want to know how you even have a debate with 20 people.

    1. not impossible. most soul-crushing boring meeting of people ever though.

    2. You can’t. There has never been a ‘debate’ between presidential candidates. These are joint press conferences where the alleged moderator is trying to keep his job.
      True debates would actually provide meaningful information to the voters, so there is no way in hell either party is going to allow one. Imagine the debate “Resolved; the US national debt has reached crisis levels.” Both R & D candidates on the negative, an empty chair on the positive, and the chair wins.

  28. Two Republican senators say rape allegation against Trump should be investigated while many in GOP stay mum

    Two Republican senators say rape allegation against Trump should be investigated while many in GOP stay mum
    By Ted Barrett and Kristin Wilson, CNN

    Updated 10:38 PM ET, Tue June 25, 2019
    Writer accuses Trump of ’90s sexual assault

    PauseMuteMute

    FullscreenNow Playing Writer accuses Trump of…

    Trump awards Medal of Honor to David Bellavia
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    Jerome Powell hails Federal Reserve’s independence

    US targeted key Iranian proxy in cyberattack
    US President Donald Trump speaks to the media prior to departing on Marine One from the South Lawn of the White House in Washington, DC, June 22, 2019, as he travels to Camp David, Maryland. (Photo by SAUL LOEB / AFP) (Photo credit should read SAUL LOEB/AFP/Getty Images)
    Campaign strategies revealed through digital ad spending
    mueller report play 3
    Hollywood stars perform play based on Mueller report

    Iran threatens to shoot down more US aircraft

    Trump questions why Obama hasn’t endorsed Biden
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    Pressure is intensifying between Trump and Kim Jong Un
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    Writer accuses Trump of ’90s sexual assault
    Kellyanne Conway, counselor to the president listens as US President Donald Trump speaks during a working lunch with governors on workforce freedom and mobility in the Cabinet Room of the White House in Washington, DC on June 13, 2019. (Photo by MANDEL NGAN / AFP) (Photo credit should read MANDEL NGAN/AFP/Getty Images)
    House votes to subpoena Conway over Hatch Act violations

    Trump’s protocol chief Sean Lawler suspended before G20

    Female anchors sue news station for age and gender bias
    WASHINGTON, DC – MAY 08: House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) (C) presides over a mark-up hearing during which the committee will vote on whether to hold Attorney General William Barr in contempt of Congress for not providing an un-redacted copy of special prosecutor Robert Mueller's report in the Rayburn House Office Building on Capitol Hill May 08, 2019 in Washington, DC. Just before Wednesday's hearing President Donald Trump announced that he will invoke executive privilege over all the materials Nadler subpoenaed, including the Mueller report and its underlying evidence. (Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)
    Nadler: Mueller won’t let White House defy subpoena
    UNITED STATES — OCTOBER 13: Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., participates in a news conference with House Armed Services Committee Republicans about their formal recommendations on deficit reduction in a letter to the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction on Thursday, Oct. 13, 2011.
    Court docs: Rep. Hunter used campaign money in affairs

    Expected CBP chief made racist comments about migrant kids
    trump white house iran tensions grow sanchez dnt lead vpx_00012923
    Trump says he doesn’t need an exit strategy with Iran

    Trump awards Medal of Honor to David Bellavia
    Federal Reserve Board Chair Jerome Powell speaks during a press conference after a Federal Open Market Committee meeting in Washington, DC, on May1, 2019. – The US Federal Reserve decided Wednesday to keep its benchmark interest rate unchanged amid mixed signals about the direction of the US economy. (Photo by MANDEL NGAN / AFP) (Photo credit should read MANDEL NGAN/AFP/Getty Images)
    Jerome Powell hails Federal Reserve’s independence

    US targeted key Iranian proxy in cyberattack
    US President Donald Trump speaks to the media prior to departing on Marine One from the South Lawn of the White House in Washington, DC, June 22, 2019, as he travels to Camp David, Maryland. (Photo by SAUL LOEB / AFP) (Photo credit should read SAUL LOEB/AFP/Getty Images)
    Campaign strategies revealed through digital ad spending
    mueller report play 3
    Hollywood stars perform play based on Mueller report

    Iran threatens to shoot down more US aircraft

    Trump questions why Obama hasn’t endorsed Biden
    president trump kim jong un relationship letter north korea todd dnt tsr vpx_00000317
    Pressure is intensifying between Trump and Kim Jong Un
    WASHINGTON, DC – JUNE 12: U.S. President Donald Trump participates in a roundtable discussion on the administration's efforts to combat the opioid epidemic, in the Roosevelt Room at the White House on June 12, 2019 in Washington, DC. (Photo by Mark Wilson/Getty Images)
    Writer accuses Trump of ’90s sexual assault
    Kellyanne Conway, counselor to the president listens as US President Donald Trump speaks during a working lunch with governors on workforce freedom and mobility in the Cabinet Room of the White House in Washington, DC on June 13, 2019. (Photo by MANDEL NGAN / AFP) (Photo credit should read MANDEL NGAN/AFP/Getty Images)
    House votes to subpoena Conway over Hatch Act violations

    Trump’s protocol chief Sean Lawler suspended before G20

    Female anchors sue news station for age and gender bias
    WASHINGTON, DC – MAY 08: House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) (C) presides over a mark-up hearing during which the committee will vote on whether to hold Attorney General William Barr in contempt of Congress for not providing an un-redacted copy of special prosecutor Robert Mueller's report in the Rayburn House Office Building on Capitol Hill May 08, 2019 in Washington, DC. Just before Wednesday's hearing President Donald Trump announced that he will invoke executive privilege over all the materials Nadler subpoenaed, including the Mueller report and its underlying evidence. (Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)
    Nadler: Mueller won’t let White House defy subpoena
    UNITED STATES — OCTOBER 13: Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., participates in a news conference with House Armed Services Committee Republicans about their formal recommendations on deficit reduction in a letter to the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction on Thursday, Oct. 13, 2011.
    Court docs: Rep. Hunter used campaign money in affairs

    Expected CBP chief made racist comments about migrant kids
    trump white house iran tensions grow sanchez dnt lead vpx_00012923
    Trump says he doesn’t need an exit strategy with Iran
    (CNN)Two Republican senators said Tuesday the rape allegation made against President Donald Trump by writer E. Jean Carroll should be explored to determine the veracity of the allegation against the President — even as many Senate Republicans sidestepped questions over the matter and defended Trump.

    Sen. Joni Ernst of Iowa said both Trump and Carroll should be questioned about the alleged assault.
    “I think anybody that makes an accusation like that, they should come forward,” Ernst said when asked if Carroll should be believed. “But obviously there has to be some additional information. They need to interview her. They need to visit with him.”

    Don the Con! Christian values! Loves to fool the fundie nuts!

    1. WIH was that word salad?

      1. It’s proof of the merit of the old character limits.

    2. This post is a cry for help

      1. “This post is a cry for help”

        Turd can look elsewhere for that…

  29. Deal. But one day I will ask a favor of you at Reason…

  30. You bet your ass I’m going to watch it. The Republican primaries were peak kino with Trump dunking on cuckservatives left and right. The Democrats will be a ragefuel drinking game. The real question is whether I die from alcohol poisoning or laughter.

    1. We will all die from snorting fed-debt up our noses while trying to stay drunk enough to watch these bi-party clowns out-stupid and out-evil each other… Meanwhile, the vast majority of voters will ignore the Libertarian Party, because ‘A) “they don’t want to waste their votes”, and (more importantly by far), ‘B) they are all too vastly self-righteous on THEIR favorite smug-button, to vote to have Government Almighty BUTT THE FUCK OUT of other peoples’ business!!!!

      1. Fuck off Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf.

      2. Voters ignore the Libertarian Party because they choose their candidates from the people who lose the first round debates of the GOP–or crazies who try and fail to make the first round of either of the two big parties.

        You’re not getting a choice that’s different from Democrats or Republicans when the candidates ARE just shitty Democrats or Republicans.

  31. What’s the over/under line on the number of times the phrase “fair share” is uttered?

    1. +/- 453268007654325689087544346899755444567789087654312345678909764334567$?

  32. Do you really believe that Rep. Eric Swalwell (D–Calif., polling at less than 0.1 percent) or writer/”spiritual guru” Marianne Williamson (also less than 0.1 percent) is going to blow your mind Thursday night?

    It’s not about having my mind blown. It’s about enjoying all the clowns on stage self-destruct.

  33. There are times when watching this bag full of cats would be entertaining. I suspect, however, that I’d twig on the fact that they all thought they were offering serious proposals too quickly and get to the permanent face-palming way too soon.

  34. Don’t watch the candidates debate? Oh, but the moderators include Chuck Todd and Lester Holt and Rachel Maddow and you’ll never again get the opportunity to watch such a slobbery tag team blow-job live on network TV as what you’re liable to see here.

    1. Go on…

  35. “Don’t Watch This Week’s Democratic Debates
    Do anything else. Literally anything else. Please.”

    Well, now I want to watch it. Great.

  36. Judgement came out this week if you’d prefer to play a video game instead. I’d recommend it and all the varied Yakuza games.

  37. I love petting my dog. I pet his belly. Rub his ears. Pat him. He is so cute!

  38. way ahead of you. couldn’t even tell you when it is airing.

  39. “Latest sex accusation against Trump lands with a thud”
    […]
    “…”Essentially, you’re either for him or against him, and if you’re for him, it doesn’t matter what he’s done,” said Larry Sabato, who directs the University of Virginia’s Center for Politics. “It really is remarkable. He simply is exempt from the rules everyone else must obey.”…”
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/latest-sex-accusation-against-trump-lands-with-a-thud/ar-AADt2Pi?li=BBnb7Kz

    There’s an alternative interpretation which those not infected with TDS might see:
    Lame, 20 year-old, unsupported accusations are worthless. Put up or shut up.

  40. “Socialism is good, free everything, love everyone and let everyone in”

    That’s the gist of it.

  41. The debates will be free healthcare, free college, free, free, free. The only cost is the greatest benefit of all, freedom itself.

  42. Don’t watch the idiot debate?

    Reason’s got–at this writing– 5 articles on it so far.

    But we shouldn’t watch it? We should probably just let you all tell us what to think about it, right? Because you all clearly thought it was worth space.

    But it’s best that we just accept what the journalistic authorities—the gatekeepers– want us to know about it.

    You should get rid of this orange color scheme, comrade–go for the red–with maybe some nice yellow crescent and hammer shaped accents.

  43. Don’t tell me what to do!

  44. “Voting in the Democratic primaries or the general election next year doesn’t require sitting through two nights of cattle-call debates more than six months before the first primary votes are cast.”

    That’s true! Depending on the state you live in you can just vote for Donald Trump out of spite, or perhaps the Libertarian candidate if you’re not in a swing state, as I have always done. I decided I’m voting for Trump next time, which will be the first time I haven’t voted L in a presidential election. I live in a commie state anyway, so either way it’s just pissing in the wind. I figure helping DJT out in the popular vote figures will help get commies panties in a twist though.

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