Terrorism

The Shitpost Terrorist

When a murder manifesto shows signs of irony poisoning

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There isn't always a manifesto. The man who murdered 58 people in Las Vegas in 2017 didn't issue a statement about his worldview; if you think there must be a political motive behind his crime, you've got little to go on beyond some possibly-apocryphal comments he allegedly said before the shootings. And when there is a manifesto, it doesn't always find an audience. For every Ted Kaczynski or Anders Breivik whose words attract fans or even imitators, there's someone like Seung-Hui Cho, the man who killed 32 people at Virginia Tech in 2007. As J.M. Berger noted in a recent Atlantic article about murderers' manifestos, Cho left plenty of written and videotaped words behind, but these "were so inchoate that they stripped any veneer of meaning from his massacre."

And now there's the guy who just slaughtered at least 49 people in two New Zealand mosques. His manifesto emerges, dripping, from the memes-and-shitposts world of 8chan, 4chan, and similar sites. Parts of the document are obvious put-ons, even as the blood in Christchurch reminds us that the killer wasn't kidding about his lethal intentions.

Most of the manifesto is earnest. I see no reason to doubt the writer's racism, his fear of "white genocide," or his contempt for immigration. And no, the shooter's interest in environmentalism and his attacks on global markets aren't big twists; those aren't unusual sentiments in the white-nationalist world. He calls himself a fascist, and I believe him. It isn't remotely surprising that a man who set out to murder Muslims would have beliefs like this.

But the document isn't always so straightforward; at times the terrorist is trying to fuck with his readers. Like the part where he says that the black American conservative Candace Owens "has influenced me above all" and then adds that he has "to disavow some of her beliefs," since "the extreme actions she calls for are too much, even for my tastes." Or the part where he answers one of his own questions with the so-called "Gorilla Warfare copypasta," a string of ludicrous threats and braggadocio that Reddit types have been cut-and-pasting into conversations for nearly a decade. This rhetorical mixture of sincerity and sarcasm is common in the online spaces where white supremacists gather (and in more than a few other online spaces too). Now it's leaking into a terrorist's manifesto.

It didn't just appear in the manifesto: It showed up at the crime scene. At one point in his attack, right before opening fire, the killer said, "Remember lads, subscribe to PewDiePie." PewDiePie, a.k.a. Felix Kjellberg, is a popular YouTube personality, and several press reports on the massacre have pointed out that Kjellberg has flirted with maybe-ironic-maybe-not anti-Semitism himself. But what's more to the point is that the words "subscribe to PewDiePie" are themselves a meme. Reciting them before you shoot people is the internet-age equivalent of murdering someone while you repeat a Saturday Night Live catchphrase.

The fascist terrorist is also a fascist troll. Reading him is like seeing a Pepe meme carrying an actual gun.

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  1. Same stupid shit that Charles Manson did with using Hinman’s blood to write “Political piggy” on the wall and to draw a panther paw, a Black Panther symbol.

    Saying you want a revolution doesn’t work these days, so you need to mass murder innocents, deflect, and and attempt to incite a revolution.

    1. Black Panther symbol? I didn’t realize Manson was into Marvel Comics.

      1. Links to the manifesto – so you can check for yourself.
        html

        pdf

        zip

        1. None of them work any more.

          1. The zip file works. It disturbs me that they can scrub this from the web.

            1. This is what happens when the USA gave over internet control systems to the World. These supposedly free nations don’t respect freedom of speech, so governments love that they can scrub websites and info at their will.

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      2. Manson went on his killing spree to protest being denied immigration to Wakanda.

  2. “The Shitpost Terrorist”

    But enough about Tony.

  3. Please talk to me if you are concerned about your low birthrates. I can help you.

  4. The fascist terrorist is also a fascist troll. Reading him is like seeing a Pepe meme carrying an actual gun.

    Ain’t it something, this wonderful Age of the Internet?

    1. It’s young people culture, this “Internet culture”. It’s no different that the slang and catchphrases used by terrorists in the 1960s. But now, “journalists” can find out what all the stuff means, and easily barf out articles like this that say… something?

      I guess it says that young people have culture, too?

  5. I didn’t really understand this article. I’m still not entirely sure what Reddit is. All the internet funnies I laugh at/could reference are at least a decade old. Does anyone remember those Star Trek voiceover videos by the Canadian guys? That’s about as current as I get.

    1. Oh, ok. Thanks.

      1. You’re welcome?

        1. Okay, thanks.

          1. You’re very welcome.

    2. Cheeseburger, cheeseburger, cheeseburger!

      1. Can I get a coke?

        1. No coke, petsi.

    3. The animated show? Those are great.

      1. The Heroes and Icons (H&I) channel has them on Sundays.

  6. Is that his graphic? Because holy shit that reads like the GND manifesto!

    1. “Anti-free-markets, anti-imperialism, environmentalism, worker’s rights” that all just *screams* “right wing”, dunnit?

      1. It does if you read Joseph Goebbels- who reads like Bernie Sanders.

      2. Yeah, everything but the “racial autonomy” in the manifesto is a left-wing policy. Walker says these ideas are common among White Supremacists. So, we’re seeing a rebirth of the Dixiecrat movement. It’s even difficult to claim that “racial autonomy” is a right-wing idea when Democrats push so hard for a “two-state solution” between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea.

  7. Remember when the corporate press obsessed over James T. Hodgkinson motivation after his shooting?

    1. Do you ever get tired of all the whataboutism?

      1. Do you ever get tired of following a chosen narrative pushed by your self professed superiors. Let’s not pretend there isnt a pattern post every mass killing to try and link it to the right as fast as possible. Even Scalise’s shooter was linked to the right early on.

      2. When a Bernie supporter shot up a baseball field people rightly noted that Bernie and his rhetoric were not responsible. Now we have the corporate press warning about the “nefarious 4chan”.

        You agreeing with this dichotomy is reflexive conservatism, always eager to abide by the status quo narrative. So I can understand why you’ve reached for the idiotic “whataboutism” defense, because such a position makes no sense.

  8. If only we had more laws here in America that would make it illegal for bad people to say bad things online then murders like this wouldn’t happen in New Zealand! Our American gun laws are likewise in need of immediate common sense changes, because it’s not just the lives of Americans at stake. It’s the entire world because when America finally confiscates all the guns from those stupid racist hillbillies that will also magically delete the guns from New Zealand.

    1. Don’t worry about free speech. The free speech “defenders” are standing strong.

      http://www.twitter.com/landlineben/st…..2137080833

  9. Thank goodness for the international conspiracy behind Jesse Walker. I was hoping we’d get his [their] take on this sooner rather than later.

    I knew all the dark stuff going on in the world had something to do with PewDiePie, and now it’s all starting to make sense. What do PewDiePie, the Bilderberg Group, American gun manufacturers, environmentalists, and the blackouts in Venezuela all have in common? They all make common cause with the principles outlined in the Georgia Guidestones, but I’m not sure that’s it.

    We’re one or two pieces away from solving this puzzle, though. All we need to do is take our preexisting biases and project them through Die Hard movies* and whatever else is happening in the news for total situational awareness.

    *President Nicol?s Maduro and other officials have said the blackout was caused by a cyberattack hatched in the U.S. One pro-government lawmaker, Mar?a Alejandra D?az, said on state television that the attack was inspired by one of the Bruce Willis “Die Hard” movies.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/fi…..552667168?

    1. That’s ridiculous. Nobody wants to be linked to Die Hard 4.

      1. I plan to Die Hard.

        1. Another incel whiner.

          1. Troll pollock has nothing to do at Volokh.

    2. Is the media refusing to say that any country that cannot determine why there is a continuous blackout might be so fucked up that there is a serious problem?

  10. Sam Hyde strikes again!

  11. There is an 8chan?

    1. 8chan……9chan……..whatever it takes.

    2. 4chan was a more lightly moderated community a few years ago. In the wake of Gamergate, they probably got scared of liabilities when a few people started doxxing some critics, so they cracked down hard and started issuing bans and broader moderation. People who were upset by this left and formed their own break-away community, which is mostly more toxic and vile than the community it left.

  12. Lol. Reddit has locked down their pewdiepie subreddits and scrubbed them from their search engine.

  13. Is the killer’s identity in question? I notice Reason and many other outlets are not naming him.

    1. Not naming mass killers has been shown to have a potential impact in reducing copy-cat attacks. So many places do use the name in their reporting for a while.

      1. Walker named Kacynski, Breivik and Cho above.

      2. It’s been guessed itwill reduce copycats. It hasn’t been proven at all.

  14. Taking a page from the Bay Harbor Butcher Dark Defender’s manifesto, eh?

  15. “PewDiePie, a.k.a. Felix Kjellberg, is a popular YouTube personality, and several press reports on the massacre have pointed out that Kjellberg has flirted with maybe-ironic-maybe-not anti-Semitism himself.” -> You mean, the guy who had Ben Shapiro in his channel? – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBDNbpWSUx8 – I don’t like Shapiro, but I doubt a real anti-semitic would have him. This whole ‘PewDiePie is a fascist’ thing is such a joke.

    1. Seriously, Jesse, did you make any research on him before writing this BS?

      1. Jesse Walker was excited to get a gig that people actually want to look at.

        He used to write garbage too. Then he starting writing things that nobody looked at.

        1. He sounds like a seventies fundamentalist scared that Alice Cooper will make your kids satanists. =P

          1. Isn’t Alice Cooper an evangelical?

            1. He is a christian. I don’t know which denomination. But this never stopped fundies to call someone a ‘satanist’.

    2. Seriously, Jesse, did you make any research on him before writing this BS?

    3. PDP is a fascist in the same way antifa fights fascism.

    4. Yeah, Pewdie will clearly bring the ethnostate with his ‘Lasagna Bitch’ Rap. Do you actually read what you write? “But this mass murder liked him”, yeah, and Eric Harris liked Rammstein, Richard Ramirez liked AC/DC and Elliot Rodgers liked Avatar: The Last Airbender.

      1. Adam Lanza played a lot of Dance Dance Revolution.

    5. This PewDiePie part sounds like a punchline for a bad taste ‘The Onion’ article.

    6. Oh, yeah, I forgot, PDP’s videos are full of ‘Bring the ethnostate’ and ‘White Christian People, be fruitful and multiply’ subliminal messages.

    7. Why don’t you also talk about how CountDankula made antisemitic propaganda using nazi pug?

    8. Hey, Jesse, I found another scary nazi that can make your children turn to fascism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zpYQJkBQp0

      1. That is the greatest musical video spectacle I have ever seen.

      2. Just catching up on this thread now. I’m not sure why Banake thinks “several press reports on the massacre have pointed out that Kjellberg has flirted with maybe-ironic-maybe-not anti-Semitism” means “Kjellberg is a Nazi.” But I guess I’ll spell this out: If I attribute an observation to “several press reports” and then hedge even their characterization with “maybe-ironic-maybe-not”—and then respond to them, in the very next sentence, by saying a different observation is “more to the point”—then no, I am not calling Kjellberg a Nazi.

        As long as I’m spelling out things that ought to be obvious, the point of that paragraph was not that “this mass murderer liked [PewDiePie].” I have no idea whether this mass murderer liked PewDiePie. All I know is that he was invoking the “subscribe to PewDiePie” meme, which (as I’m sure you know) extends far beyond the PewDiePie fan base.

  16. memes-and-shitposts
    memes-and-shitposts
    memes-and-shitposts, memes-and-shitposts, memes-and-shitposts
    8chan, 4chan, and Reddit are all
    memes-and-shitposts, memes-and-shitposts

    “Cho left plenty of written and videotaped words behind, but these ‘were so inchoate that they stripped any veneer of meaning from his massacre.'” Gee, you hate to see a massacree stripped of its meaning.

  17. Once again another writer misunderstands the definition of “troll” on the internet. A “troll” is not someone who posts memes to amuse their friends. It is someone who tries to get people on the internet involved in an argument by artificially pushing their buttons, not by sincerely espousing their own beliefs or by being sarcastic. For example, if you go to a Lady Gaga fan forum and post “Lady Gaga sucks” even though you couldn’t care less about Lady gaga, you’re a troll. Almost no one in the media seems to be aware of the definition of the world.

    1. If this comment section had likes, I would give you one.

    2. What if I sincerely believe and cogently argue for the things that push people’s buttons?

      Am I still a troll?

      1. I guess, as long you’re not ‘honestly debating’, but just annoying.

        1. What about libertarian sarcasm?

          1. A troll isn’t someone who makes one-off snarky comments. There are people content to insert a clever response and then drop the mic as they leave.

            Trolls are attention whores who will continue to double down on everything over and over again as long as people respond to them.

    3. That’s because most of the media are on the left, and the left uses the term “troll” to refer to anyone who disagrees with them, especially if they advance arguments.

    4. A “troll”…is someone who tries to get people on the internet involved in an argument by artificially pushing their buttons

      That is one of the definitions, yes. More broadly, you can troll people by artificially pushing their buttons just to get a reaction out of them, whether or not you’re specifically trying to bait them into an argument. (That’s why people describe a lot of Andy Kaufman’s comedy as trolling.) And that is exactly what the killer was doing when, for example, he declared that Candace Owens “has influenced me above all.”

  18. And no, the shooter’s interest in environmentalism and his attacks on global markets aren’t big twists; those aren’t unusual sentiments in the white-nationalist world. He calls himself a fascist, and I believe him

    Blood and soil… blood and soil.

  19. It didn’t just appear in the manifesto: It showed up at the crime scene. At one point in his attack, right before opening fire, the killer said, “Remember lads, subscribe to PewDiePie.” PewDiePie, a.k.a. Felix Kjellberg, is a popular YouTube personality, and several press reports on the massacre have pointed out that Kjellberg has flirted with maybe-ironic-maybe-not anti-Semitism himself.

    If I were going to go out in a blaze of violent glory, right before my shooting spree, I would shout, “All hail to the rightful president, Hillary Clinton, and may the people of this great world finally accept the reality of Global Warming. Medicare for all, and to all a good night!”

    1. Nice false flag.

  20. Maybe I should seek the Libertarian nomination to run for my congressional district next year. The incumbent is a Democrat, which means my campaign website could have his press releases and exerts from that terrorist’s manifesto in a quiz to see if viewers can guess who said what.

    1. Excellent idea!!

  21. Reciting them before you shoot people is the internet-age equivalent of murdering someone while you repeat a Saturday Night Live catchphrase.

    Well Excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse Meeeeeeeeeeeee

    1. Makin’ copies!

  22. Wait til they find out he had a subscription to Reason. Can you wear a monocle and look through a Leopold?

  23. Not bad, Jesse. You’re one of the few media persons to have correctly recognized the jokes and memes in the manifesto. Most of the media sources on both left and right seem to be intentionally reading the jokes as serious or reading the serious as jokes to fit their narrative.

  24. “There isn’t always a manifesto”- Karl Marx had one. And the body count is still coming in.

    1. Mass murder isn’t bad when Marxists do it. My professor explained it to me.

  25. Didn’t this guy also say something about how Spyro the Dragon taught him the importance of ethnic purity? A cartoony E-for-Everyone game about a cutesy dragon solving puzzles to gather dragon eggs?

    At that point someone should have realized he’s not being genuine and perhaps his whole manifesto is suspect.

  26. I condemn the attack on mosques in Australia.

    Now, let’s look at some of this year’s news that didn’t make as many American newspapers, because there weren’t any White people involved. On March 9th, A New York Times article reported How ISIS Is Rising in the Philippines. Granted, the NYTimes is not the best source of information, but let’s look at some of the information from that article.

    As worshipers gathered in January for Sunday Mass at a Catholic cathedral, two bombs ripped through the church compound, killing 23 people. The Islamic State claimed a pair of its suicide bombers had caused the carnage.

    Earlier this year, most Americans were too busy worrying about a Catholic teen’s smirk/smile in Washington, DC to notice, but Australians were closer to that bombing and probably heard more about it.

    The Islamic State’s lure seems never far from the surface in the southern Philippines. At a government ceremony in Basilan where houses were awarded to former Abu Sayyaf rebels under a long-gestating peace deal to bring autonomy to the Muslim south, security was so heavy that they were outnumbered by Philippine soldiers.

    Established nations are still trying to make peace with Muslim terrorists by granting them official autonomy. This sets precedents for White terrorists who want racial autonomy.

    1. That NYTimes article goes on to say:

      Jem Habing, 22, a former Abu Sayyaf fighter who said he had joined at age 11, like many children in his village, seemed noncommittal when asked if he might rejoin.

      “They convinced me that if you die in battle, you will be rewarded in the hereafter,” he said. “They said it was the right path.”

      I can imagine the Onion spin on this: “It’s one thing to recruit an 11 year old boy to be a child soldier in your terrorist group, but do you have to promise him 40 virgins if he dies in battle?”

    2. Sharm,

      This man is a psychopath. There is no understanding or explaining it.

  27. “several press reports on the massacre have pointed out that Kjellberg has flirted with maybe-ironic-maybe-not anti-Semitism himself.”
    i.e.
    “The press are race baiting vermin who stoop to calling PewDiePie an anti-semite”.

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