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The Media Wildly Mischaracterized That Video of Covington Catholic Students Confronting a Native American Veteran

Journalists who uncritically accepted Nathan Phillips' story got this completely wrong.

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Partial video footage of students from a Catholic high school allegedly harassing a Native American veteran after the anti-abortion March for Life rally in Washington, D.C., over the weekend quickly went viral, provoking widespread condemnation of the kids on social media. Various media figures and Twitter users called for them to be doxed, shamed, or otherwise punished, and school administrators said they would consider expulsion.

But the rest of the video—nearly two hours of additional footage showing what happened before and after the encounter—adds important context that strongly contradicts the media's narrative.

Far from engaging in racially motivated harassment, the group of mostly white, MAGA-hat-wearing male teenagers remained relatively calm and restrained despite being subjected to incessant racist, homophobic, and bigoted verbal abuse by members of the bizarre religious sect Black Hebrew Israelites, who were lurking nearby. The BHI has existed since the late 19th century, and is best describes as a black nationalist cult movement; its members believe they are descendants of the ancient Israelites, and often express condemnation of white people, Christians, and gays. D.C.-area Black Hebrews are known to spout particularly vile bigotry.

Phillips put himself between the teens and the black nationalists, chanting and drumming as he marched straight into the middle of the group of young people. What followed was several minutes of confusion: The teens couldn't quite decide whether Phillips was on their side or not, but tentatively joined in his chanting. It's not at all clear this was intended as an act of mockery rather than solidarity.

One student did not get out of Phillips way as he marched, and gave the man a hard stare and a smile that many have described as creepy. This moment received the most media coverage: The teen has been called the product of a "hate factory" and likened to a school shooter, segregation-era racist, and member of the Ku Klux Klan. I have no idea what he was thinking, but portraying this as an example of obvious, racially-motivated hate is a stretch. Maybe he simply had no idea why this man was drumming in his face, and couldn't quite figure out the best response? It bears repeating that Phillips approached him, not the other way around.

And that's all there is to it. Phillips walked away after several minutes, the Black Hebrew Israelites continued to insult the crowd, and nothing else happened.

You can judge for yourself. Here is video footage of the full incident, from the perspective of the black nationalists. Phillips enters the picture around the 1:12 mark, but if you skip to that part, you miss an hour of the Black Hebrew Israelites hurling obscenities at the students. They call them crackers, faggots, and pedophiles. At the 1:20 mark (which comes after the Phillips incident) they call one of the few black students the n-word and tell him that his friends are going to murder him and steal his organs. At the 1:25 mark, they complain that "you give faggots rights," which prompted booing from the students. Throughout the video they threaten the kids with violence, and attempt to goad them into attacking first. The students resisted these taunts admirably: They laughed at the hecklers, and they perform a few of their school's sports cheers.

It was at this moment that Phillips, who had attended a nearby peace protest led by indigenous peoples, decided to intervene. He would later tell The Detroit Free Press that the teenagers "were in the process of attacking these four black individuals" and he decided to attempt to de-escalate the situation. He seems profoundly mistaken: The video footage taken by the black nationalists shows no evidence the white teenagers had any intention of attacking. Nevertheless, Phillips characterized the kids as "beasts" and the hate-group members as "their prey":

"There was that moment when I realized I've put myself between beast and prey," Phillips said. "These young men were beastly and these old black individuals was their prey, and I stood in between them and so they needed their pounds of flesh and they were looking at me for that."

Again, all the evidence suggests that Phillips got it backward.

He also claimed that he heard chants of "build the wall." While I cannot rule out the possibility that some of the kids indeed chanted this—those who were wearing MAGA hats are presumably Trump supporters—I did not hear a single utterance of the phrase in the nearly two hours of video footage I watched. Admittedly, the kids do a lot of chanting and it's not always possible to tell what they are saying. Their stated explanation is that they engaged in a series of school sports chants: That's what one student told a local news reporter. His account largely tracks with the video.

"We are an all-male school that loves to get hyped up," said this student. "And as we have done for years prior, we decided to do some cheers to pass time. In the midst of our cheers, we were approached by a group of adults led by Nathan Phillips, with Phillips beating his drum. They forced their way to the center of our group. We initially thought this was a cultural display since he was beating along to our cheers and so we clapped to the beat." According to this student, the smiling student was grinning because he was enjoying the music, but eventually became confused, along with everyone else. (Indeed, multiple people can be heard to shout, "what is going on?")

It would be impossible to definitively state that none of the young men did anything wrong, offensive, or problematic, at some point, and maybe the smiling student was attempting to intimidate Phillips. But there's shockingly little evidence of wrongdoing, unless donning a Trump hat and standing in a group of other people doing the same is now an act of harassment or violence. Phillips' account, meanwhile, is at best flawed, and arguably deliberately misleading.

Unless other information emerges, the school's best move would be to have a conversation with the boys about the incident, perhaps discuss some strategies for remaining on perfect behavior at highly charged political rallies—where everybody is recording everything on a cell phone—and let that be the end of it.

The boys are undoubtedly owed an apology from the numerous people who joined this social media pile-on. This is shaping up to be one of the biggest major media misfires in quite some time.

Updated at 8:30 p.m.: Nick Sandmann, the Covington student in the middle of the controversy, has released a statement. Here it is in full:

I am providing this factual account of what happened on Friday afternoon at the Lincoln Memorial to correct misinformation and outright lies being spread about my family and me.

I am the student in the video who was confronted by the Native American protestor. I arrived at the Lincoln Memorial at 4:30 p.m. I was told to be there by 5:30 p.m., when our busses were due to leave Washington for the trip back to Kentucky. We had been attending the March for Life rally, and then had split up into small groups to do sightseeing.

When we arrived, we noticed four African American protestors who were also on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. I am not sure what they were protesting, and I did not interact with them. I did hear them direct derogatory insults at our school group.

The protestors said hateful things. They called us "racists," "bigots," "white crackers," "faggots," and "incest kids." They also taunted an African American student from my school by telling him that we would "harvest his organs." I have no idea what that insult means, but it was startling to hear.

Because we were being loudly attacked and taunted in public, a student in our group asked one of our teacher chaperones for permission to begin our school spirit chants to counter the hateful things that were being shouted at our group. The chants are commonly used at sporting events. They are all positive in nature and sound like what you would hear at any high school. Our chaperone gave us permission to use our school chants. We would not have done that without obtaining permission from the adults in charge of our group.

At no time did I hear any student chant anything other than the school spirit chants. I did not witness or hear any students chant "build that wall" or anything hateful or racist at any time. Assertions to the contrary are simply false. Our chants were loud because we wanted to drown out the hateful comments that were being shouted at us by the protestors.

After a few minutes of chanting, the Native American protestors, who I hadn't previously noticed, approached our group. The Native American protestors had drums and were accompanied by at least one person with a camera.

The protestor everyone has seen in the video began playing his drum as he waded into the crowd, which parted for him. I did not see anyone try to block his path. He locked eyes with me and approached me, coming within inches of my face. He played his drum the entire time he was in my face.

I never interacted with this protestor. I did not speak to him. I did not make any hand gestures or other aggressive moves. To be honest, I was startled and confused as to why he had approached me. We had already been yelled at by another group of protestors, and when the second group approached I was worried that a situation was getting out of control where adults were attempting to provoke teenagers.

I believed that by remaining motionless and calm, I was helping to diffuse the situation. I realized everyone had cameras and that perhaps a group of adults was trying to provoke a group of teenagers into a larger conflict. I said a silent prayer that the situation would not get out of hand.

During the period of the drumming, a member of the protestor's entourage began yelling at a fellow student that we "stole our land" and that we should "go back to Europe." I heard one of my fellow students begin to respond. I motioned to my classmate and tried to get him to stop engaging with the protestor, as I was still in the mindset that we needed to calm down tensions.

I never felt like I was blocking the Native American protestor. He did not make any attempt to go around me. It was clear to me that he had singled me out for a confrontation, although I am not sure why.

The engagement ended when one of our teachers told me the busses had arrived and it was time to go. I obeyed my teacher and simply walked to the busses. At that moment, I thought I had diffused the situation by remaining calm, and I was thankful nothing physical had occurred.

I never understood why either of the two groups of protestors were engaging with us, or exactly what they were protesting at the Lincoln Memorial. We were simply there to meet a bus, not become central players in a media spectacle. This is the first time in my life I've ever encountered any sort of public protest, let alone this kind of confrontation or demonstration.

I was not intentionally making faces at the protestor. I did smile at one point because I wanted him to know that I was not going to become angry, intimidated or be provoked into a larger confrontation. I am a faithful Christian and practicing Catholic, and I always try to live up to the ideals my faith teaches me – to remain respectful of others, and to take no action that would lead to conflict or violence.

I harbor no ill will for this person. I respect this person's right to protest and engage in free speech activities, and I support his chanting on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial any day of the week. I believe he should re-think his tactics of invading the personal space of others, but that is his choice to make.

I am being called every name in the book, including a racist, and I will not stand for this mob-like character assassination of my family's name. My parents were not on the trip, and I strive to represent my family in a respectful way in all public settings.

I have received physical and death threats via social media, as well as hateful insults. One person threatened to harm me at school, and one person claims to live in my neighborhood. My parents are receiving death and professional threats because of the social media mob that has formed over this issue.

I love my school, my teachers and my classmates. I work hard to achieve good grades and to participate in several extracurricular activities. I am mortified that so many people have come to believe something that did not happen – that students from my school were chanting or acting in a racist fashion toward African Americans or Native Americans. I did not do that, do not have hateful feelings in my heart, and did not witness any of my classmates doing that.

I cannot speak for everyone, only for myself. But I can tell you my experience with Covington Catholic is that students are respectful of all races and cultures. We also support everyone's right to free speech. I am not going to comment on the words or account of Mr. Phillips, as I don't know him and would not presume to know what is in his heart or mind. Nor am I going to comment further on the other protestors, as I don't know their hearts or minds, either.

I have read that Mr. Phillips is a veteran of the United States Marines. I thank him for his service and am grateful to anyone who puts on the uniform to defend our nation. If anyone has earned the right to speak freely, it is a U.S. Marine veteran.

I can only speak for myself and what I observed and felt at the time. But I would caution everyone passing judgement based on a few seconds of video to watch the longer video clips that are on the internet, as they show a much different story than is being portrayed by people with agendas.

I provided this account of events to the Diocese of Covington so they may know exactly what happened, and I stand ready and willing to cooperate with any investigation they are conducting.

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955 responses to “The Media Wildly Mischaracterized That Video of Covington Catholic Students Confronting a Native American Veteran

  1. The Leftist activists and their friendly media that framed these students and manufactured a narrative out of this performance will never apologize and never admit they were wrong.

    Like “I can see Russia from my house”, “Mission Accomplished”, or “Hands up don’t shoot”, it will live forever in the minds of the ignorant that believe. Because we already know they think it’s more important to believe the right things than it is to be factually correct.

    1. Well yes, the “sense of the truthiness of the narrative” is FAR more important than the actual facts!

      1. It’s like Tom Lehrer in New Math: “The important thing is to understand what you’re doing, rather than to get the right answer.”

        People found this hilarious in 1965.

        1. Anti Whites say:

          Open Borders! (for white populations only)
          Noone is Illegal! (where white people live only)
          Diversity is a strength! (for non whites moving into white places only)

          Who doesn’t notice #Anti White at this point?
          Who doesnt believe #White G at this point?

          1. Racism is bad and so are white people – The New Democrats.

            1. Mr. Soave doesn’t go far enough. Saying that these polite young followers of our national leader may have been engaged in “mockery,” and that the “native American” who dared to approach them was merely “chanting and drumming,” rather than recklessly provoking a confrontation, is as dangerous to public order as saying that Gmail “confessions” sent out in the “name” of a distinguished NYU department chairman are a mere act of academic “satire.” See the documentation of our nation’s leading criminal “parody” case at:

              https://raphaelgolbtrial.wordpress.com/

          2. Racism is bad and so are white people – The New Democrats.

          3. Racism is bad and so are white people – The New Democrats.

          4. Racism is bad and so are white people – The New Democrats.

            1. That’s fine, and honestly they are entitled to that opinion. But as someone who voted Democrat in every election since ’96, I can’t justify continuing to vote for a party that condemns me because of my skin color.

              They are going to have to do some serious work in the run up to 2020 to convince me that they aren’t against white people if they want my vote. Somehow I doubt that they are going to. In fact, my bet is that they are going to double down on the hateful rhetoric.

              1. This never made any sense to me either.
                Considering white people make up over 75% of the population and yet the Dems constantly seem to hate on white people how can they possibly hope to win any elections by playing to minorities alone.
                Also, why would any white American vote for such a white hating party.
                Any white person who votes Democrat is an idiot in my book as they are absolutely voting against their own best interests.

                1. White people only make up 75% of the population if you list 7 out of 8 Hispanics as white. That is true for some purposes, but not others. If you’re just talking about “Non-Hispanic White” then that’s 61% and dropping fast.

        2. Studies show it does matter more how you come to an answer then, “Just having the answer”. Across other areas rather than and including math the ability to graph out the methods used leads to better solving the unknown.

        3. Studies show it does matter more how you come to an answer then, “Just having the answer”. Across other areas rather than and including math the ability to graph out the methods used leads to better solving the unknown.

        4. Studies show it does matter more how you come to an answer then, “Just having the answer”. Across other areas rather than and including math the ability to graph out the methods used leads to better solving the unknown.

    2. Aww a klan liar is making up nonsense again.

      1. when did Robby join the Klan?

        1. Because they support trumps b.s they want America great again by destroying everything it stands for and is.

          1. Why that comment doesn’t sound demagogic and unhinged at all… no… wait…

            1. It’s closer to reality than demagogic or unhinged.

              It’s more like they want to roll back all the progress America has made in regards to civil rights, social justice, and even basic human decency.

              1. What a weird influx of previously unknown and obviously unstable commenters…

              2. What a weird influx of previously unknown and obviously unstable commenters…

              3. What a weird influx of previously unknown and obviously unstable commenters…

              4. What a weird influx of previously unknown and obviously unstable commenters…

                1. The exposure of so called “leftists” and the mainstream media as liars (and child abusers) in this story, one of a series of such exposures recently, almost daily now, is further deranging establishment minions and puppets. They are whining and gnashing their teeth. Cornered rats.

                  1. Studies show it does matter more how you come to an answer then, “Just having the answer”. Across other areas rather than and including math the ability to graph out the methods used leads to better solving the unknown.

                    No, their actions were on tape doing the hawk chop to the Native Americans, agreeing the N word was acceptable to reference towards a black student, made monkey sounds and mocked the only people there who were saying bad things about everyone, screamed it wasn’t rape if she liked it, and cat calling women walking by. Their youtube page showing black face and white power signs says a lot as well.

                    1. No, their actions were on tape doing the hawk chop to the Native Americans, agreeing the N word was acceptable to reference towards a black student, made monkey sounds and mocked the only people there who were saying bad things about everyone, screamed it wasn’t rape if she liked it, and cat calling women walking by. Their youtube page showing black face and white power signs says a lot as well.

                      Literally nothing in this post is accurate.

                2. Did someone say influx? What a great time for Reason’s comment system to be embarrassing!

              5. What a weird influx of previously unknown and obviously unstable commenters…

                1. Say that five times fast.

                2. Whoo! Squirrels bit you hard on that one.

                3. It isn’t influx if she liked it.

              6. It’s more like they want to roll back all the progress America has made in regards to civil rights, social justice, and even basic human decency.

                Nah, shitlib shibboleths should be rejected.

                1. That’s the whole of American history.

                  And the history of the West since The Enlightenment.

                  Since it’s what the vast majority of people want and consider to be human progress, it’s not going to be rejected. Sorry.

                  You will die in an America and a world more liberal than the one you were born into, as did your father, and your father’s father, and as will your son, and his son.

                  Assuming the periodic hiccups of conservative regression humanity runs in to does not result in irreparable harms to the viability of human life on this planet.

                  1. If you’d ever bothered opening a history book, you actually learn that the human experience is not a predictable course. But that’s what make shitlibs, shitlibs. They hate Christians, but they sure never lost the Christian sense of divine ordination.

                  2. > You will die in an America and a world more liberal than the one you were born into, as did your father, and your father’s father, and as will your son, and his son.

                    Liberal on social issues, maybe. Economic ones? Not so much.

                    As for “social justice,” if you put a modifier before the word “justice,” it’s nothing of the kind. It’s revenge for imaginary oppression.

                  3. Hey look the Rev is socking.

                  4. Since the ‘Enlightenment” LoL ! So woke! I suppose WW1 and WW2 were progress? Liberal Marxism infecting our society is progress? The Left wanting to ban free speech is progress? Dressing little boys like hookers and the Left pushing homosexuality on little kid’s is progress? No your totally wrong that’s not progress that’s regression. You can stick your so called Liberalism because what you consider Liberalism I call madness.

                  5. Nope. Real Americans, something you aren’t, will soon be fed up and your kind (filthy hippies) will be dealt with. Through the savage beatings you so richly deserve. After all, when a filthy hippie runs it’s mouth, the response should be stern backhanding. Sending the filthy hippie back to under the rock from whence it crawled out from under.

                    Best you leave my country, while you can.

                  6. @FoxFire nice try, shit stain, but no fucking cigar, you leftards like to fancy yourselves “progressives” when you are really regressive, there is nothing “progressive” about you fucktard. Regressive is wanting to ban any speech that you disagree with, regressive is wanting to go back to a society run by bureaucrats and kings, regressive is wanting to keep people from having the natural right to defend themselves, regressive is wanting to get rid of a system “capitalism” that has lifted more people out of poverty than anyone of you bankrupt shitty programs etc. Your regressive scum and your the real “conservative” here, you want to conserve the left’s tyrannical dominance over society and throw the pesky constitution in the garbage. You fucking people are a joke, you put yourself on a pedestal thinking your the “real liberals” there is nothing “liberal” about you, your a shitard, control freak and you are going to be the ones that lose, fucking loser.

              7. ^ LOL This guy

                1. Is it Kirkland socking? It sounds just like him.

                  1. It sure does.

                    1. Agreed.

                  2. I don’t think it’s Kirkland. He has no imagination. Y guess ismthat this article got linke on Drudge or something like it, and the progtarded trash saw it.

              8. Can you name some civil rights that have been rolled back? And WTF is social justice besides some way of blaming individuals for things they never had anything to do with?

                1. Ask Anti Whites: Why is mass immigration and “diversity” demanded in ALL white populations and ONLY white populations?

                  Why is no global place or institution ever “too yellow” and “too black”?

                  Why is Open Borders a white ‘privilege’?

                  That’s why we say #Anti White

              9. Destroying ‘social jistice’ Sounds like a good thing. Plus it will bring great pain to the horrific SJW creatures who deserve eternal suffering.

              10. Exactly what progress are they trying to roll back?

              11. There is no such thing in reality as civil rights only individual rights, There no such thing in realty as social justice, only the justice of individual. Human decency is respecting individual rights including property rights, not slavery and the rule of force (meaning whoever controls the government guns.

              12. You mean they might end the way Democrats round up poor black kids and sell them to the NEA every day for their second biggest source of campaign contributions?

          2. Because they support trumps b.s they want America great again by destroying everything it stands for and is.

            America stands for freedom within a small set of constitutionally stated set of rules, most of which limit government and not the people.

            What you or Trump states as the canonical ‘America’ beyond the above applies only to you or Trump.

            You are welcome to your belief, but you aren’t allowed to use force to impose it on others.

            FOS!

      2. Great counter argument

    3. “Leftist Activist”. Attacks on the media.

      Sounds like things that a hard core right wing Trump worshiper would use.

      Given that strong possiblility, it’s extremely ironic that you would suggest these are the lies told by “leftists”, when Donald J. Trump is demonstrably a pathological liar, who’s told nearly 7000 lies and obfuscations of the truth, since he took office. All documented.

      1. Squirrels.
        Gay

      2. Because Trump lies means that no one else can lie? Solid logic there.

        1. Straw man.

          1. It’s literally the gist of what you posted. Leftists cant lie, only Trump! Again, pretty solid logic you got there.

            1. Seems FF no more reads his own posts than anybody else should.

      3. So those false reports didn’t happen?

        “reporters can lie because Trump” is not a great argument

        1. Hey Reason.

          If these people are examples of your readers, you’re failing in instructing them on critical thinking skills and what constitute rhetorical and logical fallacies.

          1. Hey Shitlibs,

            If FoxFire is what you consider to be bringing out the big intellectual guns, you’re going to need to quit recruiting at elementary schools.

          2. So those false reports didn’t happen?

          3. The sockpuppets are out in force for this article. Media Matters must have activated full suppression mode.

            1. +100

            2. Really?

              Is Media Matters the source of (at least some) of our trolls?

              I’ve always wondered why they bother to post here. If this is some kind of astroturf campaign, it makes more sense.

          4. FoxFire the retarded faggot has chosen to opine here. I feel so privileged. White privileged.

          5. Says the guy who distracts from the original subject with a red herring by bringing up Trump and a tu quoque by answering criticism with criticism when you said “Sounds like things that a hard core right wing Trump worshiper would use.” If you’re going to criticize people for using logical fallacies, you might want to know what a logical fallacy is first, smart guy.

            Hey FoxFire – Shut up.

      4. LoL ! When Trump said he had enough burgers to reach the moon, he was fact checked and it was deemed to be a lie. He was fact checked whether he said buh bye or bye bye on CNN. You guy’s are pathetic. Go away Snowflake nobody believes your leftist propaganda.

      5. What’s Trump have to do with the details besides some red hat? The left and their Pravda reporters clearly lied about what happen. That doesn’t mean Trump, or some other politician, hasn’t lied.

        1. No, it doesn’t; but it would be nice if you could stick to the topic instead of twisting this issue into another excuse to attack the President. Hope springs eternal.

      6. FoxFire, you are a funny faggot. Dragging out all those tired, bulkshit camards.

        Best you go commit suicide right away.

      7. @FoxFire must be hard to be as fucking retarded as you, did your mom fuck her brother to create you? Can you even tie your own shoes? Chew bubble gum and walk at the same time? The video shows this “leftist activist” piece of shit lied, quit trying to deflect “Hurdy durdy derp, don’t look over at us hypocrite liars look over at Drumpf” typical idiotic deflection but it isn’t working, moron. Please go and die somewhere, shitard.

    4. People like these leftists can’t be reasoned with, and there is no way to coexist peacefully with them. They just won’t have it. Best to be ready to take them down when they push too far.

      1. Progressives need to be slapped so hard they starve to death rolling. That’s real progress.

    5. The gospel of Ocasio-Cortez: it is better to be morally correct than factually correct.

      Good thing I am the Queen of Sheba, or I would take issue with this.

      1. So,would Tony. He is the Sheba of queens.

        1. You mean Occasional Cortex? She’s busily hanging herself with her own gaping mouth.

    6. The gospel of Ocasio-Cortez: it is better to be morally correct than factually correct.

      Good thing I am the Queen of Sheba, or I would take issue with this.

    7. The gospel of Ocasio-Cortez: it is better to be morally correct than factually correct.

      Good thing I am the Queen of Sheba, or I would take issue with this.

    8. The gospel of Ocasio-Cortez: it is better to be morally correct than factually correct.

      Good thing I am the Queen of Sheba, or I would take issue with this.

    9. The Gospel of Ocasio-Cortez: it is better to be morally than factually correct.

      Good thing I am the Queen of Sheba, or this would irk me.

      1. They got you too.
        I feel your pain

    10. Or they will say that some youths wearing MAGA are really racists, so the abuse they piled on these students, though they did nothing wrong was justified!

    11. No, their actions were on tape doing the hawk chop to the Native Americans, agreeing the N word was acceptable to reference towards a black student, made monkey sounds and mocked the only people there who were saying bad things about everyone, screamed it wasn’t rape if she liked it, and cat calling women walking by. Their youtube page showing black face and white power signs says a lot as well.

      1. “Their youtube page showing black face and white power signs says a lot as well.”

        Ummm…it says they had a “Blackout Game” for homecoming, something UnderArmor has paid hundreds if not thousands of schools to do. Look it up. As you folks are so fond of saying “It’s not my job to educate you.”, and this is something that actually exists outside the hothouse delusions of your intersectional mind. Go look it up, tard.

        And, if you’d ever watched a basketball game, you’d know that “white power sign” signifies a made 3-point basket. All kinds of black players do it, every single night of the week, in public, ON TV, during basketball season. But 4chan trolled idiot lefties into believing it had something to do with “white power” or the mysterious and perpetually undefined ‘alt-righ”…which I have seen zero evidence that it ever did IN REALITY, as opposed to the narrative-driven, reality-proof stories coming out of the SJW media. So that really “says a lot”, but nothing at all like what you are suggesting it does.

        Your misrepresentations are so stupid and unsubtle it really seems as if you are retarded. Matt.

  2. Everyone is trying to instigate everyone (yes MAGA hats are offensive) and trying to pick fights and they are all failing and I think it’s great! Keep up the good work, people! #blessedarethevideorecorders

    1. All of those who favor more-free immigration (less immigration restrictions) should be, in the name of truth in advertising, be forced to reveal their political inclinations, by being forced to wear MALGA hats… Those who favor more-free immigration are in favor of Making America Less Great Again!

      Jews had to wear stars of David, right? Now is the time for those who deserve it, to be forced to wear MALGA hats!!!

      1. Thanks for reminding us what pathetic scum libertarians are “SQRSLY”.

        1. On the off chance that you don’t have a clue, please have your sarcasmometer re-calibrated…

        2. Callous, evil, cynical troll here to cause disruption and rancor because PROTECT THE NARRATIVE BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

          1. I thought Luke Skywalker killed the rancor.

            1. Nice.

        3. We don’t need reminders to know how fucked up you shitlibs are.

    2. (yes MAGA hats are offensive)
      Seriously, fuck off. If you thing offensive, then you are a child.

      1. **if you think a hat is

        love technology

        1. I thought you were hispanic.

      2. At this point it’s obvious social signaling. The TDS-afflicted have created a narrative where Trump = bad (light on the specifics) and the MAGA shouters shout to show their allegiance.

        Just another way politics is very possibly the worst way of accomplishing anything

        1. “politics is very possibly the worst way of accomplishing anything”

          You would prefer violence?

          Or are you just too stupid to know what the word means?

            1. No. Politics is not violence.

              Although, divorcing words from their meaning is about the surest path to making politics turn into violence.

              1. Ok, sure, politics isn’t violence right up until they pull the trigger. Everything’s super voluntary to that point.

              2. I have it on good authority that speech is violence. Politics is speech. Therefore, politics is violence. Simple.

        2. Not the least bit light on the specifics.

          Why are you on a site called “Reason” when you are so clueless about Trump’s long history of reprehensible behaviors, and the extensive reasoning given by those who have an absolutely sound loathing of the man.

          Is it because he’s not yet been held accountable for any of them?

          Lots of awful people have avoided accountability for their awful actions. Even the worst of them. Hitler had zero accountability up until he was putting a bullet in his own head.

          Now that Democrats are in charge of the House of Representatives, lets hope that accountability is coming for Trump, along with of course what Mueller has been digging up on him.

          1. Hitler had zero accountability up until he was putting a bullet in his own head

            A fate every shitlib deserves.

          2. Oh look, fresh meat. You may be a fox, but this is a land of wolves. Virtue signalling and lifting your nose like an elitist fuck won’t get you anywhere.

            Bringing up Hitler? Real original.

            Still on the Russia collusion narrative? how adorable

            Why don’t you go back to retweeting Rachel Maddow? It’s safer there

            1. You’re a sad little man, aren’t you Ryan.

              You may be on a site called “Reason”, but you live in a world of delusions.

              Did you honestly think Trump’s failed “win” in November 2016 indicated some revolution of deplorability was at hand?

              Stay tuned little Ryan. History hasn’t been on your side since the end of the Dark Ages.

              1. Did you honestly think Trump’s failed “win” in November 2016

                How was it a “failed ‘win,” shitlib? Her Inevitability remains Not President. Looks like an actual win to anyone who isn’t a waste of carbon molecules.

              2. What’s a failed win?

                1. Ask the New Orleans Saints

                  1. The Saints were robbed by the refs not calling pass interference.

                    The NFL wanted NE vs LA for ratings, and the refs gave it to them. So sad.

                    1. *The NFL wanted NE vs LA for ratings, and the refs gave it to them. So sad.*

                      The refs didn’t make Dee Ford park his fat ass in the neutral zone on that game ending Brady pick. Although they did call Ford for the neutral zone infraction, so I guess you are technically right.

              3. FF, if they chose to, the right could wipe you amd your friends off the map at a speed that would astonish you.

                Best you just learn to obey.

          3. a site called “Reason”

            DRINK!

            1. Ty for that sir.

            2. Beat me to it! I think there’s at least two in there.

          4. So because Trump is a lying fuck, it’s okay for the media to be lying fucks too?

          5. To be fair, the Nazis wanted to bring in migrants who would work for less than market rate.

            “Arbeit macht frei” could be the slogan for involuntary immigration and the bad deal immigrants get from some Americans. Let’s increase the number of visas we issue and give them through a random lottery and reciprocity visa treaties, streamline the immigration process, and eliminate the bias in our laws that make recent immigrants disadvantaged enough to put up with unfair relationships.

            1. + that.

              I knew there was a libertarian in here somewhere.

          6. “Now that Democrats are in charge of the House of Representatives, lets hope that accountability is coming for Trump, along with of course what Mueller has been digging up on him.”

            LOL…hahahahahha…OMG….that was a good one. I mean, when people think about justice and accountability the one name that pops into their heads is one of the two main US political parties. LOL…people are just sheep.

          7. I agree that a lot of awful people have avoided accountability for their awful actions. As a good example of this: Hillary Clinton. And she might not *ever* avoid accountability.

            Too bad the Republicans were too focused on their own awfulness, because otherwise they might have done something about Hillary’s.

            I’m not at all convinced that Mueller has found anything that he could hold Trump accountable for, either. If he really had anything, I’m pretty sure we’d know about it by now. (I’d like to think that he’d have something more than the vague charges against Russians, including indictments of organizations that couldn’t committed crimes at the time of the election, on account of not existing until some time after the election.)

          8. I wonder If FoxFire holds the Clintons accountable for their many, many crimes.

            Probably not. They have the correct letter after their name.

          9. I’m still waiting for someone — anyone — to explain why Trump is relevant to an incident in which these students were targeted by the black Israelites and “Native American” protestors. Just because one of more of the students was wearing a MAGA hat? So ? free speech for thee but not for me? Got it.

        3. Not just Trump = bad, but the very existence of Trump, and any public reference, is now a form of anti-progressive snowflake violence.

          ps. Trump IS an idiot, but not Hitler/Satan.

          1. Who said Trump was Hitler? I was using an example of even the worst of people having no accountability for their actions, to demonstrate that the lack of accountability doesn’t indicate they aren’t doing anything wrong or outright reprehensible.

            In any case, we ought to remember, Hitler did not start off with genocide.

            He was on a very similar trajectory as Trump though.

            I could imagine narcissistic sociopathic Trump doing the same things as Hitler did and worse if he were to be given the sort of power and authority that Hitler had in Nazi Germany.

            1. Who said Trump was Hitler? I was using an example of even the worst of people having no accountability for their actions

              Which shows the grade-school limits of your knowledge.

            2. Hitler started with writing. This is what writing leads to. Every commentator on this website could be the next Hitler. We need to outlaw writing! Then we will be back to the progressive paradise: a technocratic Garden of Eden.

              :/

              1. Just imagine a boot, stamping on a human face…forever.

              2. Imagine a boot, stomping on a human face….forever.

                1. I always find it hilarious when Libertarians quote a socialist.

                2. I always find it hilarious when Libertarians quote a socialist.

              3. It wouldn’t matter how much writing there was if everyone was illiterate. Outlaw literacy!

            3. “He was on a very similar trajectory as Trump though.”

              You mean by reducing our foot poring in war zones, helloing to bring back jobs that disproportionately benefit minorities, and rolling back regulations that effectively REDUCE the power of the executive?

              Yeah…………

      3. MAGA hats are the same as pussy hats. Worn by social signaling jerkoffs looking to provoke a response and divide us all. Think LC1789.

        1. He’s aight

        2. MAGA hats are no different than the various Obama campaign paraphernalia.

          Pussy hats are over sized mock reproductive organs.

          Not quite the same.

          1. Yeah, wearing mock reproductive organs on one’s head is so 2012.

        3. Poor Eric. He doesn’t know that we are making fun of him by saying MAGA.

          1. Maybe I’m missing context but someone who says that MAGA hats are “Worn by social signaling jerkoffs looking to provoke a response and divide us all” seems unlikely to be a wearer of a MAGA hat.

      4. Given that Trump has demonstrated himself in every possible way to be incredibly divisive, just about coming right out and saying he couldn’t care less about anyone other than those who go to his rallies and throw themselves into a tizzy for his very presence, not to mention whatever things he spews from his lying greasy fry hole (not that he actually cares about any of them either, just their worship), it is unequivocally true that MAGA hats are offensive to anyone who is not one of his devotees and has a modicum of decency.

        And that’s even before noting that Trump himself is a profoundly immoral, utterly incompetent, massively corrupt, treasonous traitor criminal, who has caused significant (if not irreparable) harm to America and its people, and people around the world (including future generations).

        1. [Citation needed]

          1. Of?

            There’s already been scads written about all those claims and characterizations with numerous examples. Put out by those at the top of their fields of expertise.

            Try Google.

            1. ^dude is the definition of NPC

              1. Pathetic dude.

                1. Not nearly as pathetic as your try-hard shitposts.

                2. Did you like read the article? Is your ranting somehow related to the subject matter?

            2. “There’s already been scads written about all those claims and characterizations with numerous examples. Put out by those at the top of their fields of expertise.”

              The argument from authority fallacy. I wonder if the person who sent the NPC here was being serious or just wanted a few laughs at it’s expense. Either way I’m enjoying it’s wooden responses.

            3. “There’s already been scads written about all those claims and characterizations with numerous examples. Put out by those at the top of their fields of expertise.”

              You mean like how the journalists “at the top of their field” were outraged by a fake news story wrt the Covington Field Trip?? Clearly a contrived fake story, up to and including a fake acting job by this asshole Indian “”It was a song of peace and reconciliation”, he said, tears streaming down his cheeks”. Seriously. A Viet Nam vet, so shaken by a kids’ smirk and hat, that it triggered his PSTD?? Run with it, you “top of your field” journalists!!

              Snapped up, hook, line and sinker, and amplified without question. THAT’S the kind of people who “put out” expert opinions on Trumps’ psycho-pathology. People no more committed to the truth than those journalists…or you, for that matter.

              You have no credibility. Merely asserting things is inadequate.

        2. What harm? Oh…he is trying to get us out of Bu$h and Obomb’$ wars or the fact that he’s not bowing down to unelected bureaucrats at the UN.

        3. And Obama was not at all divisive at all! Which is why it’s such a mystery that someone so divisive as Trump was able to mock his way into the White House.

          Nope, it couldn’t be because Obama alienated people leading up to the election of Trump. Not at all!

        4. Well FF, Trump is right about one thing. Not giving a fuck about you. Nor do I. Progtards are just things to be thrown away, like garbage, but more foul.

    3. “(yes MAGA hats are offensive) and trying to pick fights”
      i.e.
      “Anything I don’t like is offensive and justifies my violence. I am societal cancer.”

    4. Right? And those women deserved what they got for dressing like sluts….

  3. ” … one of the biggest major media misfires in quite some time.”

    Misfire? I think not, the media accomplished exactly what they hoped to accomplish, to portray Trump supporters as racist, stupid, etc., etc.

    Robby, I think you fail to realize most of the media aren’t honest people who occasionally get some things wrong. They’re not.

    1. This.

      Framing a narrative is their job, and they’re willing to wade in the scummiest waters to do it.

    2. Exactly.
      The point is to get the lie out there, because the hardcore Tony/Chemjeff types that dominate the left don’t give a crap if it’s been debunked, they just need fodder for their hatred.

      As we saw with the Buzzfeed story, there is no downside to making shit up for the “Resistance”.

    3. They appear to have made no attempt to talk to any of the participants other than Phillips, hence the one-sided reporting. That the full video context was available makes it seem once again purposeful behavior on the part of journalists.

      1. Thank God for the ubiquity of cell phone cameras, citizens today get to keep the media honest.

      2. Credibility is supposed to matter to journalists.

        This sort of incident should be a major blow to their credibility. But so long as the Robby Soaves of the world are willing to keep this all very impersonal, and not risk bruising any shins then nothing will change.

        Impunity is the name of the game.

        1. Your first mistake is assuming they’re journalists.

          They’re propagandists, so their lying and narratives make perfect sense.

          1. You misconstrue my point.

            I’m not the one who considers them journalists. My comment is addressed to the author of this piece.

      3. Well said, Fist of Etiquette.

    4. It’s a misfire because they screwed up and were shown to be the lying liars they are with incontrovertible video evidence within hours of their fraud.

      Enemies of the People.

    5. Checked at WaPo original story still up no retraction. A real slimy piece of journalism ‘update’ at 10:20PM w/quotes from the Mr. Sandmann, but basically double down on Native American ‘feels’. Sickening.

  4. “This is shaping up to be one of the biggest major media misfires in quite some time.”

    You mean, since Friday?

    “The special counsel’s office issued a rare statement late Friday disputing a BuzzFeed report that said President Trump directed his former lawyer, Michael Cohen, to lie to Congress about the president’s involvement in a real-estate deal with Russia during the 2016 campaign.

    “BuzzFeed’s description of specific statements to the Special Counsel’s Office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen’s Congressional testimony are not accurate,” said Peter Carr, spokesman for special counsel Robert Mueller.

    The statement came nearly a day after BuzzFeed published the story, citing two anonymous law-enforcement sources, that set off a firestorm in Washington. The chairmen of two House investigative panels had said earlier Friday they would probe the report’s allegations.”

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/la…..547818574?

    The weekly news cycle resets every Monday, but if we’re keeping score, I haven’t forgotten all the patently false things the mainstream news media reported just last week.

    Maybe the reason so many Americans have so little faith in the mainstream news media is because the news media is so pathetic and wrong.

    1. So we’ll put you down as someone who trusts Mueller’s findings on things.

      1. Are you suggesting that Mueller is lying about this?!

        1. In two of the very rare memos to leave the special prosecutor’s office, the word “(in)accurate” is used. Inaccurate does not mean false, or else they would have said “false.” But I’m sure we agree that you’ll jump all over his indictments of Trump spawn as you have this very vague statement.

            1. Lol +1

          1. It’s right there in the definition, in an example of the word being used:

            in?ac?cu?rate
            /in?aky?r?t/Submit
            adjective

            not accurate.
            “false or inaccurate descriptions of goods”
            synonyms: inexact, imprecise, incorrect, wrong, erroneous, faulty, imperfect, flawed, defective, unsound, unreliable;

            1. Some of the specifics are inaccurate. They didn’t say which ones, and the reporters don’t know what to do about it.

              But I’m sure Trump is totally not a criminal and totally was only distractedly interested in a $300 million deal with the government he can’t seem to criticize for any reason even as they work to undermine the country for which he’s head of state.

              1. Tony, please, leave with your dignity

                1. Suddenly dignity is back in vogue?

                2. Tony has never had any dignity to lose.

                3. Cathy L: No one can do a bigger self-own in the H&R comments than I did last week.

                  Tony: Hold my beer….

              2. reporters don’t know what to do about it.

                here’s a clue: when one of the writers is saying “I haven’t seen the evidence and EVERY talking head says “if it’s true,” what you do about it is not report it. It’s journalism 101.

            2. English is a crap language. You can’t expect someone to understand every nuance.

              1. The many lawyers who work for Mueller choose those nuances carefully.

                1. Still attempting to run with it? Impressive.

            3. Uh huh.

              Inaccurate includes synonyms of inexact, imprecise, imperfect, faulty, and flawed. None of which are as definitive as wrong.

              If you fail to hit the bullseye on a target, your shot is inaccurate. Whether you hit nowhere near the target or you hit within an inch of the bullseye.

              Mueller is said to use very precise language. If he meant to imply the ‘wrong’ connotation for ‘inaccurate’ he would likely of just said ‘wrong’.

              The fact that he used the word ‘inaccurate’ suggests that he either doesn’t mean ‘wrong’ or that he wants to be vague in this instance.

              1. That’s a lot of words to say, “I really wanted this Buzzfeed clickbait to be real, but I can’t figure out a legitimate way to spin that it wasn’t.”

                1. Whatever flaws may exist in their reporting, Buzzfed didn’t just make stuff up out of thin air. They’re not Sean Hannity for god’s sake.

                  1. Whatever flaws may exist in their reporting, Buzzfed didn’t just make stuff up out of thin air

                    “This clickbait wasn’t really clickbait!”

                  2. “Buzzfed didn’t just make stuff up out of thin air.”

                    Mueller said they did.

                    1. No he didn’t. Stop lying.

                    2. Yes he did. Stop crying.

                  3. If it doesn’t confirm Tony’s preexisting biases, then it must not be true–not even if it comes from Mueller’s own office? After all, the words from Mueller’s office can be played around with so as to suggest that Tony’s preexisting biases might still be true–and that means they haven’t been ruled out yet?

                    That’s how cult victims, flat earthers, and six-day creationists rationalize the crazy shit they believe. When observations contradict their preexisting biases, it’s not their preexisting biases that need to be reassessed. It’s the observations that are suspect!

                    LOL

                    Meanwhile, Mueller’s office felt it necessary to refute what Buzzfeed was reporting.

                    In all seriousness, no one should take Tony seriously.

                    1. In all seriousness, no one should take Tony seriously.

                      I have known this for nearly a decade.

                    2. Who has ever taken Tony seriously?

                      I have only been here a few years but I could see immediately after joining this place that Tony was a long time troll. Which seems to be the main reason that he didnt get the new troll treatment of “fuck off”.

                  4. Whatever flaws may exist in their reporting, Buzzfed didn’t just make stuff up out of thin air.

                    You base this belief on…?

                  5. Liars like you say that Tony. Hannity may be a lot of this, but he’s not a liar. You’re a liar. Like the way you go through all kinds of

              2. Hilarious! Trump lies 10,000 times a second but actual, proven lies are simply inaccuracies? Could you be more intellectually dishonest? It seems unpossible.

          2. So you think that one of the two very rare memos to leave the special prosecutor’s office was released in order to respond to a story that was only inaccurate in some minor, largely inconsequential way? You are really, really desperate, Tony. Not that anyone here didn’t already know that.

            1. Who can say? Neither of us, that’s who.

              I’m sure Trump is totally not a criminal and this is all a giant misunderstanding.

              1. Poor Tony. He cannot tell a Lefty political hit job from actual criminal conduct.

              2. Tony, are you aware that if EVERYTHING you believe Trump did was true — literally none of it is, you know, illegal.

                At all.

          3. Tony, sometimes you really are a funny faggot. And I do feel so honored that Tomy took a break from his tickle party with those Boy Scouts to entertain us.

    2. It’s almost like they manufactured this furor with these schoolboys to cover up for the the media misfire they had on the Buzzfeed article. Nah, I must be mistaken, they wouldn’t wag the dog. Our MSM is too ethical to do that.

      1. Another possibility is that they keep falling into the same trap over and over again because they’re stupid and they don’t learn from their mistakes. Maybe their motives really are nefarious, but we’re also talking about stupidity.

        1. These are mistakes only in the sense that they were caught and called out

        2. Bigots do tend to be stupid and narrow minded.

  5. MAGA hats = douchebag sociopaths. Someone should tell that kid that’s not a Mexican. Yeah, I’m sure they were there to enjoy the music and not be racists. That’s what people in MAGA hats do, enjoy music and not be racist.

    1. Somebody didn’t watch the video…..

      1. Pretty sure they are indeed wearing MAGA hats in the video, and are therefore choads.

        1. Agreed. Obama shirts are tacky and only worn by imbeciles

          1. Well I’m not in favor of strong opinions about things in general, so of course I don’t approve of wearing them on clothes.

            1. I don’t agree with the concept of clothes, in general. It’s a way for fat people to hide the truth

            2. I’m laughing so hard I’m not sure I can type this. Tony says he’s not in favor of strong opinions in general.

              Tell us more about how all MAGA hat wearers are sociopaths, seeing as you don’t have strong general opinions.

              1. I realize the right needs help in this regard, but there is a different between opinion and fact.

                1. Tony, prove that you are not delusional and tell me the weight of an average psyche.

            3. “Well I’m not in favor of strong opinions about things in general”
              Oh what the hell, Tony!

            4. Well I’m not in favor of strong opinions about things in general, so of course I don’t approve of wearing them on clothes. anything that anyone else is doing that I don’t like.
              FTFY

            5. Well I’m not in favor of strong opinions about things in general, so of course I don’t approve of wearing them on clothes.

              You mean opinions, such as “plastic is bad”, should be written discretely in laws that no one sees until the government employees with guns punish someone for violating them.

    2. MAGA hats = douchebag sociopaths.

      What does wearing a Che T-shirt = ?

      1. Two people with the very timely Che t-shirt reference!

        1. A man well known for his acceptance and love of homosexuals.

      2. My Che shirt, one of my favorites.

        Dou(Che) Bag

    3. Sorry to break the news, Tony, but roughly half the country voted for Trump, including some millions of minorities. There are that many douchebag sociopaths?
      Antifa can wear Communist flag shirts and that is ok? Or fuck the police? Or kill white people? Of course they can! It is called the first amendment. The boys were there for an overtly political rally: Right to Life against abortion. But no one should wear MAGA hats because Leftists will get upset? Got it.

      1. “but roughly half the country voted for Trump”

        No, not even close to half the country voted for Trump. Roughly half of those who “voted” voted for Trump.

        1. ^^^Thank you.

        2. Any election is a sample of the entire population. So it is reasonable to assume that about half the country supported Trump.

        3. But actually quite a bit fewer than half of those.

          1. The difference was a relatively small margin, though, so it’s not really “quite a bit fewer”.

            Furthermore, *neither* candidate had more than 50% of the vote….

        4. If you don’t vote, you don’t count.

          Whether it’s apathy or disgust the result is the same. Your opinion gets ignored.

    4. Tony, your consistent hatred of broad social groups is sickening, yet reassuring in a way. Stay predictable, dude!

    5. Clearly the height of loving tolerance, accepting people for who they are, includes deciding that a group of teenagers are douchebag sociopaths based on what they’re wearing.

      Keep spreading the good vibes.

      1. What they’re wearing is an obvious political message.

        1. Yeah, it says “I know how to piss you off and mock your censorious politics”

          1. Actually it means “I have an irrational hatred of brown people and I prop of the corpse of Jesus to hide behind whenever I’m being a fucking terrible choad about everything.”

            1. Tony is a mind Reader! Who knew?

            2. Tony is a mind Reader! Who knew?

            3. I rest my case.

            4. All of them? Wow you are good! So do me…What does it mean when I wear my new “Peeky Blinders” hat?

            5. All of them? Wow you are good! So do me…What does it mean when I wear my new “Peeky Blinders” hat?

              1. I’d ask why you couldn’t simply open carry a gun like a real Merican.

    6. TONY: “Yeah, I’m sure they were there to enjoy the music and not be racists. That’s what people in MAGA hats do, enjoy music and not be racist.”

      Now pay attention folks because this is instructive. Progressives use this tactic all the time. They rush to judgment on faulty intel then, when confronted with hard contradictory evidence like this video, they grudgingly admit they were wrong “this time,” but someone, somewhere is doing what they accused this person of doing. And they try to pretty it up through soft wording like “this speaks to a larger issue.”

      No. It “speaks” only to bigoted partisan half-wits who listen for any dirt on people they hate, however flimsy it is…and however unknown the target of said hatred is to them.

      1. But it *does* speak to a larger issue. The larger issue is “Why is the media such a cess-pool of lies, and what can be done to fix it?”

        That’s just the larger issue that the media doesn’t want to tackle, though, so they fall back on some other larger issue *they* want to address.

    7. “MAGA hats = douchebag sociopaths”

      SJWs Always Project

    8. Tony, I hate wearing hats no matter how awesome they are and how vexatious they are to you, but I do sit around not being racist all the time.

      Not like you. Scheming for your lawless system of illegals that live in fear of you turning the, in so they have to put up with your slave wages and faggy, bitchy abuse. Indeed, I suspect you abuse a lot of brown people. Probably using intimidation to pressure them into satisfying your deviant lusts.

  6. Yeah I saw the video. I didn’t really see it as the students being disrespectful to the Native Americans. They weren’t being respectful either, but they really weren’t required to be. Mainly I just saw a lot of goofing off. I didn’t know about the whole BHI thing though. That is weird.

    1. You actually said something that made some kind of sense, and was correct.

      +1

  7. Good old “Reason”, reminding us that LIEbertarians are just klan scum embarassed to call themselves members of the white supremacist Repugnant Klan Liars Party.

    1. C-. Good troll effort, but it’s just a bit too dumb and foaming at the mouth to be convincing.

    2. You work for CNN, don’t you?

      1. Philadelphia Collins is back to remind us that he who sneaks onto your property, steals your acorn, should be punished just the same as he who cuts down your full-grown, mature oak tree, in the middle of the night, to sell it for tens of thousands of dollars worth of wood.

        Acorn = tree, ’cause God told Philadelphia Collins, if I understand right?

        We must PUNISH them!!! All acorn thieves must DIE!!! In the name of Christian Love, or some such, who knows…

        1. Dafuq?

    3. OBL or Mary? I can’t tell anymore!

      1. Honestly, I thought it was a hihnsock.

    4. Good old “David Patrick” here with an attempt to incite rancor and disruption in an effort to protect The Narrative.

    5. Study OBL for a month and then come back.

    6. Seems like Robby’s article actual got some play and is attracting a swarm of race baiting white hating vermin to Reason.

      Is there any particular site that is the Stormfront for antiwhite hatred?

      1. Try cnn, msnbc, NYT,WaPo, Huffpo, Time, etc

    7. David, this isn’t WaPo. That sort of shit isn’t impressive here. Bring your A game or go home.

      You could learn a lot from commenter Tony. That stupid, vapid fuck brings a much higher quality level of idiotic progtardation here almost every day. You could learn a thing or two from him.

    8. Libertarian racism is a funny beast: while libertarian racists don’t believe in the Civil Rights Act of 1968 (being forced to hire someone because of race is a violation of the freedom of association) they also don’t believe in Jim Crow (being forced not to do business with someone because of race is *also* a violation of freedom of association: I may hate that dark-skinned person, but I couldn’t care less if *you* want to do business with them, AND I reserve the right to do business with them, too, if it’s in my best interest to do so — I’ll just hold my nose while I do so).

      The Libertarian KKK will never get around to lynching anyone, because they are too busy insisting that their victims have every right to own a gun, and terrorizing their victims will violate the Non-Aggression Principle.

      What’s buried in all of this is, of course, is the fact that the KKK was founded by a Democrat, that Democrats, for the longest time, *were* the KKK, and that the KKK would lynch *both* uppity blacks *and* uppity Republicans.

  8. If that kid was wearing clothing indicating an allegiance to the political left you people would be climbing over each other to call his face punchable.

    1. No, we just think your “Che” t-shirt is a sign of your ignorance about what a bloody bastard he actually was.

      1. I’m a man in my 30s, I don’t wear graphic tees anymore.

        1. Che tattoos are cool too.

        2. Reading you, I sometimes wonder if you like to set yourself up on purpose. That one is virtually a giveaway.

          1. I admit, I do practice some material here at reason.com.

        3. So what you’re saying is that hope of you growing out of your left-wing retardation is fading fast?

          -jcr

        4. Over 30 and not married yet!? There must be a story behind your bachelorhood, Tony.

          1. That story is that marriage is for suckers. I have a long-term partner, but he’s not getting shit when I finally kick his ass out of my house.

            1. ” but he’s not getting shit when I finally kick his ass out of my house.”

              Obviously a close, respectful, committed, loving relationship….by progressive standards.

            2. You sound like my friend’s baby mamma, Tony.

            3. My friend’s baby mama felt the same way about him. He’s currently in a homeless shelter in Newark, NJ.

            4. “I have a long-term partner, but he’s not getting shit when I finally kick his ass out of my house.”

              Well Tony, since homo marriage is ‘the law of the land’, that isn’t necessarily the case. I’m not sure what the common law marriage statutes are where you live, that might apply. And a palimony suit isn’t out of the question either. Or maybe the guy just gets a hint of what’s coming and cleans you out one day while you’re doing whatever it is you do that passes for work.

              Either way, it should be entertaining.

    2. If that kid was a leftist he would have busted out a bike lock or a baseball bat when Philips got in his face.

      His face is snuggly punchable though.

  9. It takes a lot of guys for Robby to refute the crux of a narrative that is still largely accepted on faith by the major media establishment. Well done article.

      1. Too late. You said guys. JUST WHAT ARE YOU IMPLYING? Is Soave not a real person but an amalgamation of several people, a la the “New York girlfriend” in Barack Obama’s Dreams from My Father book? Or is it something more sinister?

        1. Robby is actually several midgets stacked together to make one slightly average sized man (if you deduct four inches of height do to his coif)

        2. Robby is actually several midgets stacked together to make one slightly average sized man (if you deduct four inches of height due to his coif)

          1. They’re not actually midgets. They’re little girls wearing false beards.

            Try to keep up.

            Robby is a stack of little girls. That’s how ‘he’ was able to eat so much fruit sushi.

            And why ‘he’ can’t change a tire.(that’s not being sexist or anything–the stack just doesn’t bend well)

  10. do not forget that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it’s funny

  11. do not forget that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it’s funny

  12. Something about being anti abortion that brings out the worst in some people.

    Maybe they don’t like being reminded that they are currently advocating the worst genocide in earths history, of helpless innocent babies, merely for the convenience of irresponsibility.

    Another 750,000 murders this year in the US alone.

    That’s a lot of murder.

    1. I resent your VAST understatements!

      ‘Cause God told me that the bacteria on my teeth-scum have souls, too!!!

      Every time that I brush my teeth, I murder 750,000 souls with every single stroke of my tooth brush, on the average!

      1. Do the bacteria on your teeth have a complete human genome?
        Do your tooth bacteria have a developing brain, liver, lungs and bones?
        If you don’t brush your teeth, in nine months will the bacteria become breathing, eating, crying human beings?

        If no, then you’ve just made an incredibly shitty analogy, worthy only of an utterly dishonest retard.

        Seriously, how the hell do you figure you were making an argument?

        1. Are gorilla fertilized eggs sacred in your domain as well? Who decides these things, and how? A sperm whale has a MUCH bigger brain that you do… Do you cry over aborted sperm-whale fertilized eggs?

          1. Way to avoid the obvious. Doesn’t make you look foolish at all.

            Not at all.

            Nope.

          2. You’re demonstrating how murderers try to reason.

            Perhaps one will similarly explain why you don’t have a right to life.

            Do you care to try? Be convincing.

            1. Why would I try to convince those who can not be convinced? Those who God has talked to, who know exactly which organisms do and do not have souls, can NOT be convinced of ANYTHING!

              I prefer to let “God” (whoever that may or may not be; substitute names at will, Universe, karma, what have you) tell me who “God” is. I don’t try to tell “God” who He or She or It is.

              Humility goes a long, long way towards making life more pleasant and livable. You should try it some time.

              1. How is humility demonstrated by murder?

                How is humility demonstrated by arrogantly denying the real science and logic that proves the pre-born are living human beings?

                You demonstrate a very shallow opinion of humility.

                1. How is humility demonstrated by pretending to know exactly what murder is, and what is not murder?

                  Can you tell me exactly what I may and may not kill? A carrot, a wheat seed, an insect, a fish, a puppy, a whale, an enemy soldier, a bacteria, a louse, my own cancer cells, etc., etc. … Who can I kill, and not kill, and who gave these rules to you, or did you just make them up for yourself, and then convince yourself that you have the right to impose your rules on others?

                  Can you tell me the difference between humility and arrogance?

                  1. So it’s open season on you, according to you.

                  2. “Can you tell me exactly what I may and may not kill? ”

                    Can you? And your reasoning?

                    Do you define human life starting at birth? Is that when the head has emerged, or the whole body? The whole head? What about the placenta? What about breech births? Or is it when the amniotic sac breaks? Or the 20th week after conception? Or the heart begins to beat? Or when the sperm first encounters the egg? Or after the sperm has punctured the membrane around the egg? Or when the chromosomes have been transferred?

                    Not so easy!

                    1. Yes, Grasshopper, you DO have the beginnings of wisdom!! It is indeed not easy!

                      That’s why I advocate not minding the business of others, and let them decide. When they decide to go on wanton killing sprees by invading the homes and lands of others, murdering and raping and stealing, I reluctantly support the use of force to stop them. But when a woman has been deceived by a scumbucket man… He said he had a vasectomy, and he did not, he said he has no other girlfriends, and he has 5 others… And the victim of his lies, finds out only AFTER she is pregnant… Plus many other legitimate reasons why she might not want to carry to term… Then I mind my own business. She has enough troubles already.

                    2. Spreading your fucking legs and inviting a cock is choosing to take a chance.

                      No contraceptive is 100%.

                      Killing a human baby because you didn’t like your roll of the dice is murder.

                    3. Not if you do it my way.

                    4. Are you a faggot talking about the Hershey highway? Fill your boots.

                      Your game of Russian roulette involves STD’s like AIDS.

                    5. @Rob Misek So what you’re saying is that if you were gambling with a pair of dice that you didn’t know were loaded you would be ok with your losses even after you found out that you got cheated? Yep, I’m sure you would be totally ok with that, sinner!

                    6. By choosing to gamble in the first place you know what you’re risking. If you don’t trust the people you’re with, don’t gamble with them.

                      I’m saying that it’s not right, when you’re cheated by someone you’re gambling with, to murder a helpless innocent person to steal their money to refill your wallet.

                    7. “That’s why I advocate not minding the business of others, and let them decide.”

                      Just how far are you willing to take this? Would you advocate for murder being legal — would you make it a strictly civil affair?

                      It’s not a mock question, by the way. I’m a pro-life libertarian, but I have a couple of funny positions on this. One is that so long as murder is illegal (and I don’t necessarily think it *should* be), so should abortion. Another is to recognize the right of the father and his interests in the child: if the father demands an abortion, but the mother refuses, then the mother should abdicate all rights to child support; alternatively, if the mother wants to abort, but the father wants to raise the child himself, then he should have the right to do so.

                      The thing that disturbs me the most about most pro-choice arguments is how eerily they match up with Nazi justifications for the holocaust; the ]what disturbs me more, however, is how there’s no clear boundary where these arguments should apply, and where they should not: they are just as applicable to two-year-olds, to the handicapped, and to the aged.

                      Which is why I’m so pro-life, *despite* my willingness to legalize murder.

                    8. I would consider a fetus to be a living human with basic rights attaching no later than sentience.

                    9. Sentience, the capacity for feeling, awareness?

                      Why would you assign such an arbitrary criteria?

                      One is not sentient when unconscious. Do they lose their right to life.

                      Or is it the potential for sentience that you mean? Then one must only wait until the fetus is 8 weeks old and responding to touch, long before most women know they’re pregnant. People are in comas longer than that.

                      From conception onward a new human being exists and with that go all human rights. HUMAN RIGHTS

                      Get over it, there is no magic age when murder is OK. Abortion is the worst genocide in earths history and it’s happening here and now and you’re part of it.

                    10. @Rob Misek “From conception onward a new human being exists and with that go all human rights.”

                      I call bullshit on your theory! The definition of the word born is to exist as a result of birth. So, “From birth onward a human being exists and with that go all human rights.” There, FTFY.

                    11. Are you suggesting that the definition you quote means that a living human baby doesn’t exist before birth then within seconds does?

                      Do you also believe in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy?

                      You fucking murdering cunts really don’t understand logic and science.

                    12. The better more descriptive definition of born is, “brought forth by birth.”

                      Birth is merely a the living human baby moving from inside the mother to outside.

                    13. “Are you suggesting that the definition you quote means that a living human baby doesn’t exist before birth then within seconds does?”

                      Nope, just pointing out the fact that there are other points of view other than the one you have settled on. And yes, maybe I do believe in Santa Claus, I just don’t go around pushing my beliefs on others like righteous hypocrites like yourself love to do. I wonder what choice the young incapacitated woman from Arizona that gave birth in result of being sexuality assaulted would have made? Oh yeah, I forgot she didn’t have a choice because self-empowered individuals like you already made that choice for her. You fucking people make me sick and then you have the nerve to call the rest of us murderers! You push your fucking agenda by trying to convince the world that women are lining up around Planned Parenthood by the thousands for a shot at the next coat hanger medical procedure. Make good choices then go fuck yourself, sinner!

                    14. You are a fucking murdering hypocrite cunt pushing your murder on helpless completely innocent babies and whining when people push the truth in your face.

                    15. A coat hanger is too good for you.

          3. “Are gorilla fertilized eggs sacred in your domain as well? Do you cry over aborted aborted sperm-whale fertilized eggs”
            You’re really going out of your way not to say embryo, aren’t you. A fertilized human egg becomes and embryo a few minutes after fertilization.

            Anyway, to answer your question, no. Just humans.
            The fact that you won’t acknowledge the difference between a human baby and a whale, says a hell of a lot about you.

            Of course you can’t possibly be this ignorant of biology. I think you’re dissembling like this because you know your position is murderous and evil.

            1. “Just humans.”

              And who told you that, or where did you get it from? Whale lives don’t matter, even when their brains are larger than ours? Can I morally and ethically travel to another planet with alien intelligences, and slay them and their embryos at will, then, and that is all OK?

              Doesn’t sound very ethically or morally advanced to me…

              1. By this logic, you cannot eat. You need to kill something to eat it. If meat eaters are speciesists, then vegetarians are kingdomists.

                My old animal behavior professor taught us that speciesism is evil and that all species are equal. He had us work in pairs to design and implement animal behavior research projects over the course of the semester. I was naive enough to believe he believed in his morals. My research partner and I studied my partner’s roommate. That professor freaked out when he saw the research report. It violated regulations on the use of human research subjects and could get him in trouble.

                Join EAT and see the light. Epicureans Against Tofu will teach you how it is murder to eat beans. Beans have souls. The Ancient Greeks proved this scientifically when they observed the souls of beans escaping their bodies every time they ate the beans.

                1. “The Ancient Greeks proved this scientifically when they observed the souls of beans escaping their bodies every time they ate the beans.”

                  If you can see the souls, that’s some ferocious soul!

                  Usually I can only smell them.

                2. “The Ancient Greeks proved this scientifically when they observed the souls of beans escaping their bodies every time they ate the beans.”

                  Did they see the souls, or only smell them?

                3. “The Ancient Greeks proved this scientifically when they observed the souls of beans escaping their bodies every time they ate the beans.”

                  Did they see the souls, or only smell them?

                  1. They heard the souls escaping.

          4. Are gorilla fertilized eggs sacred in your domain as well?

            The general consensus says that humans, as defined as the population with shared derived characteristics thanks to an ability to intermingle their genes over the course of a lifetime, must be protected by the government but non-human organisms get a much lower level of protection. Hence, we have laws against animal cruelty but no copyrights for the photographs that non-human primates take.

      2. SQRLSY One,

        Prove that you have a soul like your life depends on it.

        I would rather keep abortion legal than trust doctors to decide when a woman needs to save her life with an abortion, but it is the killing of another human being and should not be a form of birth control.

        1. I agree, sharmota4zeb… You are my fellow Grasshopper, beginning to gather wisdom.

          Souls? I just flat-out know nothing about this for sure. I only have vague suspicions. All that I can say for sure is, I do treasure my own life, in many ways that a recently fertilized egg cell cannot. The difference between my and that fertilized egg cell, and between me and other species? Many differences, many degrees of gradual separations. I cannot sort them out.

          1. No biological differences.

      3. Except murder, by definition, refers to the killing of a human being. What you are talking about is killing…but is not murder.

        1. Abortion is the killing of a human being, simply a young one.

          From conception the human being is growing,

          Hopefully our society won’t turn it into a murdering cunt.

    2. What the fuck do high school students at an all-boys school know about reproductive services? Are they worried their socks are going to get pregnant?

      1. Hey Tony, good one, I did LOL…

      2. Maybe their concern is that they are super pro choice to that point the male should get fifty percent of the choice since they would be financially liable.

        1. 50% of the choice to always force women to give birth against their will?

          1. Most unwanted pregnancies are not “against their will” but result from carelessness.

            1. I paid a quarter million dollars for an education to tell me what the word “will” means. So, props to you, really, even if you obviously can’t read.

              1. “I paid a quarter million dollars for an education”

                Of course you did, there’s no way anyone would give you a scholarship.

                1. Actually I got a full ride with enough of a stipend left over for endless partying and fancy meals. I sometimes like to pretend I spent the money others spent on me for the sake of rhetoric. But truth be told, free money is not overrated.

                  1. “But truth be told, free money is not overrated.”

                    Just wasted. On you.

                  2. “Actually I got a full ride”

                    So you were lying?


                    I sometimes like to pretend I spent the money others spent on me for the sake of rhetoric.

                    So lying.

                    Except, we all know you are lying the free ride, and now you’re trying to save face by lying about getting a full ride.

                    It’s funny that you’re ok with just openly admitting that you’re a liar, but still expect us to believe anyone would give you a cent for school.

              2. You should be suing someone for fraud.

              3. A quarter million?
                Boy were you ripped off!

              4. “I paid a quarter million dollars for an education to tell me what the word “will” means. So, props to you, really, even if you obviously can’t read.”

                Get your money back. If they don’t just write you a check for the full amount, plus I teret, you should sue. It’s an open and shut case. Five minutes on the stand and the case will be in the bag.

                Lawyers will line up for A case like this.

          2. No, 50% to get an abortion. Door swings both ways in a logical argument.

            1. So is it the US federal government that’s going to force women to tell the fathers they’re pregnant? And how would the US federal government go about this?

              1. Why not? They force the women to tell them who the father is for child support payments?

                1. Why not? They force the women to tell them who the father is for child support payments?

                  They really aren’t that anal about the man actually being the father. If the mom says he is and he doesn’t prove otherwise until later — well, sucks for him. He’s still paying.

                  1. If they had just stuck to anal, it would circumvent the whole problem.

          3. I take it that you’re not against forcing the father to pay child support against his will, if the woman decides to give birth to the child?

            The current state of reproductive rights is currently *very* lopsided in favor of the mother (both before and after birth). How is this at all just? And why *shouldn’t* the father be interested in the fate of the child? After all, half the DNA involved is *his*.

      3. So it is ok for high school kids to boycott school over gun control, but not to protest abortion? Why is their opinion held to be wisdom in the first case but not the second?

      4. What the fuck do high school students at an all-boys school know about reproductive services baby abattoirs?
        Fixed that for you Tony. There’s nothing reproductive about the “services” they’re offering.

        I think the fact that they know killing kids is wrong, means they know more about it than you.

        1. Why do I get an automatic whiff of body odor whenever the forced-birthists come around? You guys don’t shower regularly, do you?

          1. Its your breath blowing back into your face, Tony.

            1. Tony eats too much tossed salad

          2. Considering this is the internet and not real life, that smell is you.

      5. I think it’s lame that high-schoolers with very shallow opinions are often encouraged to get politically active like this.

        I don’t think that exactly justifies people calling them sociopaths and manufacturing a story in which they harassed someone when that clearly isn’t what happened.

        1. What do you think of the lame claim that pre-born living human babies aren’t living human babies with the same right to life that you rely upon?

          Fuck what the murdering cunt woman wants.

        2. They need to learn about politics eventually. Let them be a part of the process and keep in mind that they do not have the wisdom that comes with age.

      6. Autobiography

      7. What the fuck do high school students at an all-boys school know about reproductive services? Are they worried their socks are going to get pregnant?

        From this, we learn that Tony cannot imagine high school students hooking up off campus. FYI, Tony, most high school students don’t spend their weekends waiting for Monday when they will see their cohorts again.

    3. Apparently they know the difference between bacteria and a human being.

      1. Because God told them the difference!

        1. Dawkins could tell us the difference between bacteria and an embryo. You don’t have to drag a god into the fact your analogy was fucking stupid.

          1. Cmon, when appealing to the morality of murder is the only argument a murderer has, it’s over, just relish the irony.

            1. You have it all figured out just like a jihadist.

              1. I hope ordinary people don’t think using logic and science to figure something out makes one a jihadist.

                It kind of seems backward.

                1. My moral intuitions = “logic and science”… Your moral intuitions = “excuses for mass murder”.

                  THIS is why the witches must be burned, and why the young virgins must be sacrificed to the volcano gods!

                  The words & labels have changed over the years, in some places at least, with God replaced by “logic and science”, or Government Almighty, or the consent of the governed, or “whatever” flavor of the day.

                  But arrogance (lack of humility) is one way to accurately label the root cause. Self-righteousness will do quite well also.

                  1. Once again you have clearly demonstrated that your murderous perspective is the one that can’t tell the difference between logic, science and ideology.

                    Then you cast your own ignorance on rational people who by definition recognize logic and science. You really don’t understand logic and science.

                    Your dipshit analogies are truly pathetic. What specific logic and science supported burning people as witches?

                    1. Logic and science tell me nothing about valuing life more than death, pleasure more than pain, or ANY of these “value judgment” things. These are ASSUMPTIONS. We’ve been over this before.

                      It’s not your “logic and science” that I take issue with… Beyond your seeing more in them than what the words mean… So much as it is your self-righteousness and arrogance that I take issue with. Have you ever been impregnated by a lying, scumbucket man? Been pregnant with a Down’s Syndrome embryo that you cannot imagine being able to support as a grown person? If “no”, then if you were HUMBLE, you would BUTT OUT, and mind your own business.

                    2. You’re full of shit.

                      You do deny logic and science and consider them as hateful as you do ideology. That’s irrational.

                      You deny the logic that demonstrates life being full of potential for happiness and recognize no difference from death. Again you are irrational.

                      You can’t recognize the logical consequences of your own actions and blame everyone else including helpless innocent baby you would kill to avoid responsibility without even considering adoption.

                      Letting murdering cunts have their way isn’t humility, it’s cowardice. Fuck you.

                    3. “You deny the logic that demonstrates life being full of potential for happiness and recognize no difference from death.”

                      This is an assumption, not logic. Study math and you will see. Even math cannot prove all of what is known to be true mathematically.

                      If you have to decide whether or not your beloved pet needs to be euthanized, do you use algebra, or your emotional-ethical intuitions? If you’re not using mathematics for that, then you’re the one that’s full of hypocritical shit! Or at the very least, the severe mangling of words as other humans use them…

                      “Letting murdering cunts have their way isn’t humility, it’s cowardice.”

                      Who put you in charge?

                    4. You have no clue.

                      Logically, life is the only option with the potential for happiness. This we know without making any assumptions at all. All we know about death is decomposition.

                      That is the choice you make for helpless innocent babies.

                      Who the fuck put you in charge of another humans death?

                    5. Who the fuck put you in charge of killing the carrots and wheat seeds and (probably) animal lives that are behind what you eat to live? Do you destroy the happiness of carrots, or what, when you eat?

                      Do YOU live w/o killing ANYTHING?

                      WHO authorized you to KILL, in order to live? Any time you eat anything other than the softest of liquids, you are destroying the living cells lining your cheeks… Which could be cloned to bring more humans to life!

                      YOU MASS MURDERER YOU!!!!

                    6. If you can’t or won’t tell the difference between a carrot and a human, you will soon be incarcerated.

                      That’s your future, hypocrite.

  13. Robby, it’s Ku, not Klu, Klux Klan.

    1. Robby wouldn’t know,he’s in the KKKnights of Columbus.

      1. Uh, the Klan is very anti-Catholic.

    2. Oops. Thanks for catching.

      1. That’s what she said.
        To robby

  14. If I remember correctly, the Flamingos (the ones who did the greatest version of ‘I Only Have Eyes For You’ ever) were raised as Black Hebrew Israelites.

    1. Are these the guys who used to show up in Times Square dressed as extras to Conan The Barbarian?

      I love street loons in costume.

  15. I think the stoic kid showed remarkable grace for a teenager. A man beating a drum gets in his face, for who knows why, and the kid just smiles weakly and doesn’t panic. A decent way to handle an awkward social situation.

    If he gets doxxed, I”ll send him a note of praise.

  16. Best article on the facts of the situation that I’ve seen. Good job.

  17. I think the stoic kid showed remarkable grace for a teenager. A strange man beating a drum gets in his face–for who knows why–and the kid just weakly smiles at him and doesn’t panic. A nice way to handle an awkward and unpleasant social situation.

    If the kid gets doxxed, I’d send him a note of praise.

    1. It’s more than just squirrels….

  18. Ya gotta love how it’s perfectly alright to use the word “faggot” in a professional article, but the racial slur is transformed into “the n-word.”

    1. That’s called “intersectionalism”.

      1. I have a dream, that one day the children, instead of rock-paper-scissors, will play nigger-faggot-nazi.

        1. I like it!!!! Wooo-Hoooo!!!!

          But who beats who? Shall we take a stab at it?

          ‘1) Nigger beats faggot because their music is MUCH better!

          ‘2) NAZI beats Nigger because their uniforms and accents were more cool than a bro-box and an afro hairstyle, and it is WAAAY more fun to compare everyone that you oppose, to Hitler, than to MLK.

          ‘3) Faggot beats NAZI because The Rocky Horror Picture Show has a MUCH better-deserved and more acceptable cult following than ANY NAZI movie, especially “Triumph of the Will”.

    2. Start dropping nbombs bro. Be the change you want to see.

      1. Well, we could start referring to people like Tony as ‘white niggers’.

  19. Really glad to see Reason cover this story. Last 24 hours or so I’ve been on the lookout for any coverage of this other angle. I hope your coverage helps others pick it up, because it’s not right how much hate has been spewed at these kids, especially the primary guy.

  20. “Chants of ‘Build the wall’ and other things that were even worse,” he said as he stood in the rain in Washington. “They were brought up to believe I’m less than human.”

    The more I hear from and about this Nathan Philips guy, the more I think he was less confused about the situation and more just downright horrible.

    1. So wanting a secure border means you think an american indian is less than human? non sequitur I’m afraid.

    2. He definitely loves the camera. He went to the media some years back with an unproven tale of oppression, and here isn’t really an institutionally marginalized Native American but he plays one in a Skrillex video:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGpzGu9Yp6Y

  21. There are more than one weird sects claiming to be one of the Lost Tribes of Israel. There are the Ethiopian Hebrews, who claim the Queen of Sheba was black, and married to King Solomon. The real Queen of Sheba , if she (or Solomon) even existed, is said in the OT to be from Yemen. There is still an English sect that believes since Victorian times that the English are descendants of the Lost Tribes. The only group with some verified claim are the Samaritans, about a thousand left, who were relocated from Iraq to northern Israel, but they were not actually descendants of the 12 Tribes, but proselytized People’s relocated there by Assyrians. That is why they were looked down upon by the remaining Tribes in Jesus time, Judah, Benjamin and Levi.
    No one in Israel can claim to be descendants of the Biblical Tribes . The Hebrews are extinct. They were massacred by the Romans, and previous invaders, or fled and became assimilated and cannot claim descendance.
    This is of anthropological interest, but it is also problematic for the Zionist enterprise. Judaics today are either proselytized Jews from Eastern Europe, probably descended from ancient Scythian Tribes, or Sephardic Jews, originating in Iran but then in Northwest Africa and the Iberian Peninsula.
    Hey, if the 12 Tribes are lost, this is the 21 century. Pick up a cell phone and give us a call, we’ll find you.

    1. Much of what you wrote, it would be something we could have a good discussion about.

      This I question ” . Judaics today are either proselytized Jews from Eastern Europe, probably descended from ancient Scythian Tribes, or Sephardic Jews, originating in Iran but then in Northwest Africa and the Iberian Peninsula.”

      Judaism has rarely if ever been engaged in Proselytism on any scale. The genetic and phenotypic differences are due to, well people. Matriarchy says nothing about who daddy was. Intermarriage, conversions or just things happen. That is not so relevant. Anybody could convert and be as Jewish as the Chief Rabbi of Israel.

      Over many centuries in various places Jews maintained a distict community composed of a region, culture, shared history and identity.

      I am not a big fan of this DNA based ancestry stuff. It really just confuses things.

      So far as Israel there is sometimes a challenge because of the law of return. It is hardly a problem it is a strength. Go there and you will find how diverse the Jewish population is by geographic descent. Without that ability to bring in all of these people there would be no Israel.

      Jews rarely have an issue with identity. It is not so easy to pin down. That is another reason it has survived against the odds of history.

      1. Typo.

        Religion, culture… not region.

      2. And you give yourself away in referring to “zionist enterprise”

  22. But there’s shockingly little evidence of wrongdoing, unless donning a Trump hat and standing in a group of other people doing the same is now an act of harassment or violence.

    …yes?

    1. Of course Nick Sarwark would believe that

  23. Thank you for addressing this Robby! People painting these kids as s bunch of blackshirts are dispicable. Unfortunately a lot of people who viewed this story as a reinforcement of their world view will never see this or the many other articles that told the truth. Sad.

  24. THIS IS WHY WE NEED ETERNAL VIGILENCE!!!!!!

  25. “He seems profoundly mistaken.”

    Phillips lied. There, I fixed your misstatement.

  26. “This is shaping up to be one of the biggest major media misfires in quite some time

    1) since yesterday?

    2) its not a ‘misfire’. its a pattern of behavior, and its not accidental. these aren’t ‘mistakes’

    1. Psychopaths have no moral compass and have no problem lying to fulfill their selfish desires no matter who it hurts even children. Many politicians and many “journalists” are peas in a pod in that regard.

    2. Yes. This was deliberate. This is propaganda.

  27. Playa Manhatten shared this quote at Glibertarians.com. Very appropriate.

    “Suppose one reads a story of filthy atrocities in the paper. Then suppose that something turns up suggesting that the story might not be quite true, or not quite so bad as it was made out. Is one’s first feeling, ‘Thank God, even they aren’t quite so bad as that,’ or is it a feeling of disappointment, and even a determination to cling to the first story for the sheer pleasure of thinking your enemies are as bad as possible? If it is the second then it is, I am afraid, the first step in a process which, if followed to the end, will make us into devils. You see, one is beginning to wish that black was a little blacker. If we give that wish its head, later on we shall wish to see grey as black, and then to see white itself as black. Finally we shall insist on seeing everything ? God and our friends and ourselves included ? as bad, and not be able to stop doing it: we shall be fixed for ever in a universe of pure hatred,” ? C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity

    1. Dude was pretty on point when wasn’t writing about magic closets and talking lions.

      1. I thought he was pretty good even with the magic lion.

    2. ” might not be quite true”

      How about when it is a total fabrication that is the opposite of the truth?

  28. Playa Manhatten shared this quote at Glibertarians. Very appropriate.

    “Suppose one reads a story of filthy atrocities in the paper. Then suppose that something turns up suggesting that the story might not be quite true, or not quite so bad as it was made out. Is one’s first feeling, ‘Thank God, even they aren’t quite so bad as that,’ or is it a feeling of disappointment, and even a determination to cling to the first story for the sheer pleasure of thinking your enemies are as bad as possible? If it is the second then it is, I am afraid, the first step in a process which, if followed to the end, will make us into devils. You see, one is beginning to wish that black was a little blacker. If we give that wish its head, later on we shall wish to see grey as black, and then to see white itself as black. Finally we shall insist on seeing everything ? God and our friends and ourselves included ? as bad, and not be able to stop doing it: we shall be fixed for ever in a universe of pure hatred,” ? C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity

    1. As Abigail Adams said, “Don’t forget the white prep school boys!”

      People who quote CS Lewis need to jump off a bridge into a tire fire.

      1. I always pegged you for someone who was well read. Guess not

        1. Oh in college I was forced to choke down his quintessentially pseudo-intellectual apologetics for superstition probably more than you were.

          1. Yeah, you’ve clearly never read him, let alone Mere Christianity which actually explains a lot

            1. It explains a lot about religious human psychology, which isn’t what he was going for.

              1. I’m saying the fact that you’ve never read him explains a lot.

                1. I’ve read everything he ever wrote, against my will, and it was quite enlightening.

                  The Christians, even when at their best, have utterly nothing to defend their stupid beliefs. It made me sad to read his stuff, because I knew that’s what people thought was the best Christian apologetics since Aquinas. And it’s all such bullshit. Sad, desperate bullshit. Hundreds of thousands of words to justify a belief in fairy tales that otherwise intelligent men were taught as children.

                  1. And this post right here is how we know for sure you never read him. Cribbing shit from the net can only take you so far.

                    1. But what you’re saying is that a virgin gave birth to a twink who was a deity, n’est-ce pas?

                    2. No he’s saying you’re a liar.

                      Guess that 250k education failed you again.

                    3. Tony, Jesus wasn’t even a twink in his first body, and none of his subsequent regenerations have been either.

                  2. It’s so incredibly easy to paint with such broad strokes. To just sum it all up and summarily dismiss it. No particulars required at all. No need to bother building any arguments. Why try to prove a thing false when you can just proclaim it false instead? Most people won’t even really notice the difference.

                    That’s the thing I’ve always appreciated about CS Lewis. Regardless of what you think of his conclusions, he always remained focused on the reasoning process; establishing a broadly acceptable starting point, drilling down from there using clearly articulated arguments and some of the consistently best-chosen analogies I’ve ever read from any author, and reaching his conclusions in a way that, above all, exudes clarity and honesty. Lewis is one of the few authors I have read who handle religious subjects in a way which makes it clear that his primary allegiance and starting point is reason alone, and that he truly is interested in using his mind to discover the truth rather than just searching out arguments to prop up beliefs which he already considers as foregone conclusions.

                  3. …Lewis doesn’t turn the whole structure on its head like most people tend to do most of the time. You get the distinct impression that maybe the truth really is his main agenda. And regardless of whether you conclude that he reached it successfully in the end, at the very least he always seems to be trying to think clearly rather than just trying to sell you on something. You get the impression that he is one of the few people who would actually be willing to change his mind on absolutely any matter if only he was presented with a strong enough argument.

                    Basically, the polar opposite of what Tony is doing here. But then again, forming rational arguments takes work, while summarizing and proclaiming is so easy. I know the temptation. Back in my late teens, I used to run a reviews and comparisons site for VoIP phone services. I wrote up a nice page-long review for each of about 8 different companies and collected commissions from the companies on any new customers I referred to them. The thing is, I never actually used a single one of those services myself. It’s amazing how much of what’s supposed to be a “product review” can simply be dredged up through summarizing the stuff other people have written elsewhere online, and how much additional bulk can be added by just regurgitating lists of features and explaining how the pricing is structured and repeating other plain “facts” straight off the company’s homepage.

                  4. …And the point is – no one even notices when you write up a product review that contains essentially no hint of real original evaluation whatsoever. The thing blends in perfectly. So if you read Tony’s comments here and get the impression that he’s actually saying anything at all with any value at all and allow his completely baseless and unsupported statements cast any degree of influence on your opinion of the writings of CS Lewis, I’d really caution you to take a step back, re-read those comments now, and note this time around how all he’s really doing is just making a series of statements. Don’t let people do that to you. Don’t let them state whatever they consider to be “facts” and tacitly let your mind stray into assuming that there was some reasoned-out sensible argument submitted along with those “facts” which was able to back them up. Facts are cheap. Stating things is cheap. Simply listing what you happen to think is the easiest thing in the world. Anyone can do it. And everyone loves doing it too. Every person out there thoroughly enjoys telling the world what they think.

                  5. …The problem is, it’s utterly worthless and useless to just make statements. But with it being so much easier than laboriously building a cohesive, sensible argument – and since most of the people reading it won’t bother to notice the difference anyway – why provide reasons when you can just state stuff? Why bother to come up with a real argument or real reasons to back up or explain your stance when you can pretend to summarize and summarily dismiss the lot of it all in one big, cheap as hell stroke? Why would Tony wish to add any actual value to the discussion? Tony’s not here to add anything; he’s here to stir things up, jeer and mock, and add a few more nudges in a certain direction by making completely unsupported statements which appear at first glance by their dismissive tone and faux bird’s-eye perspective to be saying so much more than they really are. Tony’s not here to help you uncover the truth, and certainly not to discover it himself; no, Tony’s here to spread propaganda. And what better way to propagandize than to make as if the verdict is in and the case is quite well closed and of course absolutely every sensible person ends up at the same conclusion anyway so on this one we can dispense with wasting any time and trouble on presenting any portion of the reasoning process and instead just jump straight into the conclusion because you probably won’t even notice anyway.

                  6. …The problem is, it’s utterly worthless and useless to just make statements. But with it being so much easier than laboriously building a cohesive, sensible argument – and since most of the people reading it won’t bother to notice the difference anyway – why provide reasons when you can just state stuff? Why bother to come up with a real argument or real reasons to back up or explain your stance when you can pretend to summarize and summarily dismiss the lot of it all in one big, cheap as hell stroke? Why would Tony wish to add any actual value to the discussion? Tony’s not here to add anything; he’s here to stir things up, jeer and mock, and add a few more nudges in a certain direction by making completely unsupported statements which appear at first glance by their dismissive tone and faux bird’s-eye perspective to be saying so much more than they really are. Tony’s not here to help you uncover the truth, and certainly not to discover it himself; no, Tony’s here to spread propaganda. And what better way to propagandize than to make as if the verdict is in and the case is quite well closed and of course absolutely every sensible person ends up at the same conclusion anyway so on this one we can dispense with wasting any time and trouble on presenting any portion of the reasoning process and instead just jump straight into the conclusion because you probably won’t even notice anyway.

                    1. But you can’t escape that his entire purpose is to apologize for a stupid bronze-age myth. He had talent, but he wasted it on that crap. The same can be said for entire eras of Western literature and art. It just seems like so much of a waste. Replace Jesus with the Flying Spaghetti Monster or Vishnu or something and see how ridiculous it all is.

                    2. “But you can’t escape that his entire purpose is to apologize for a stupid bronze-age myth”

                      You can if you have actually read him.

                      Which you obviously haven’t.

                    3. Who knew the Roman Empire was the Bronze Age?

                    4. Tony, you are such an ignorant fuck trying to act as if you have an education. You don’t. You are incredibly ignorant. Then there is your aggressive atheism. A product of your dull,stunted mind.

                      You do know that Jesus was in fact a living man, right? Historians generally don’t dispute that. At a minimum, he was a philosopher.

                      And what you consider ‘a waste’ is some of the greatest art in human history. But a narcissistic sociopath like you can’t appreciate it since it isn’t about buttfuckmg young teenage boys or some other banal crap.

              2. Psychology is for wanna-be Cupids who expect others to be their Psyches.

          2. Sounds like a shitty college.

        2. He’s a typical derptard. Attacks the messanger instead of the message that he’s not bright enough to refute.

      2. People who quote CS Lewis need to jump off a bridge into a tire fire.

        This is how you can tell that quote hit Tony the Cousinfucking Hicklib a little too close to home.

  29. White man bad; brown man good.
    This is the narrative and this it what they teach in college. When will Robby get that through his thick skull?

    1. Charles Manson was right. The Lefties would start a race war.

      1. So………mostly white progtards versus everyone else who is fed up with ttheir shit?

        1. I don’t think that one’s gonna make it to the judges’ cards.

  30. The media is just despicable. Like with the Kavanaugh hearings, they will stoop as low as possible to lie and defame and enrage a mob. Evidence doesn’t matter, the truth doesn’t matter, justice doesn’t matter…. it’s all about the narrative.

    And to see so many useful idiots on Twitter just blindly believing what activist liars push to them and seek to ruin people’s lives over it. What the hell is wrong with you? Fuck right off.

    1. Amen. It’s a fucking miserable reality.

  31. Popehat isn’t gonna be your friend anymore, Robby.

    1. Patrick too, who’s usually less of an unoriginal ass hat as WokeHat

      1. Clarkhat is best hat.

      2. Do you mean poophat?

    2. It makes me a little sad how much respect I’ve lost for Popehat over the last few years.

      1. He attacked Rand Paul for praising the demise of The Weekly Standard. He’s been garbage for a while

      2. Popehat is a complete douche bag.

    3. This is a feature, not a bug.

  32. These kids did absolutely nothing wrong and don’t need to have a conversation about what they should have done differently. Their school, the local archdiocese, all major media outlets, several democrat politicians, many celebrities need to be sat down and having a talking to about rushing to judgment and the importance of not assuming. I hope these kids, especially the so called “smirker” sue WaPo, NYT, CNN, Nathan Phillips etc into the stone age for slander.

    1. “what they should have done differently”

      They should have not been born white. Failing that, they are expected to apologize day and night for the sin of being born white.

  33. After the Gillette article, I was extremely annoyed with Soave, so it’s nice to see him standing up to an intractable narrative like this one. Props.

    1. It’s the Mackeral-Snapper Mafia, he has too.

      1. “he has to”

        Goddamnit

      2. “he has to”

        Goddamnit!

  34. “a Native American veteran”
    I keep seeing this in every description of the drum-banger, though most make note of his stint in the military during the Vietnam War. Why? Does inability to get out of the draft in ’68 convey some special moral status on an individual? Do you get extra victim points for getting a CIB instead of being some REMF?

    1. He’s a professional activist with a history of finding his way into the media.

      1. Although to his credit I think he did somewhat defend the kids. The media is who ran with the lies.

    2. I read that he was in the Marines. Not sure if true, but that would indicate that he wasn’t drafted.

      That said, who gives a shit if he was in the military? And how exactly could the kids have known, and had they known, should that have changed their response? I’m tired of people acting as if “veteran” somehow makes someone better than “non-veteran”.

      1. During both WWII and Vietnam a small number of men were drafted into the USMC.

      2. When a Left-wing activists tried to impress me with the veteran status of his fellow activists, I said, “My dad decided to not kill people in Vietnam.”

      3. In at least one video, he was wearing a hat that said veteran.

        The kids are too young, and are too disciplined, but how would the left react if the kids had screamed “baby killer!” And spit on him for being an alleged Vietnam vet

    3. There’s an interesting and growing story out on the internet regarding Mr. Phillips’ military service.

      He claims to be a Viet Nam vet but according to every source I have seen he was born in 1955, meaning he was 17 when the last US combat troops were withdrawn from the country in late 1972-early 1973.

      Unless he lied about his age to get in, there is no way that he is a Viet Nam veteran. A Viet Nam-era veteran, yes: A combat veteran, no.

      If the Media wanted to do a real story about this incident, they could uncover the possibility that Mr. Phillips’ has grossly exaggerated his military record in order to score political points (which is not at all uncommon, BTW).

      A hint for Robby: start by asking to see his DD 214 form.

      1. There is the remote possibility that he was an embassy guard in RVN sometime from 1973-75 or that he took part in Operation Frequent Wind in 1975, either of which would get him a Vietnam Service Medal. So “Vietnam veteran” is possible, “combat veteran” not so much.

  35. This is built on same racist, classist bullshit that the Duke lacrosse thing ran on

  36. Has anybody responded to this news with some idiotic variant of “THIS IS WHY WE NEED THE GILLETTE AD”?

    1. Nick Sarwark legit did on Twitter. Which I think encapsulates everything that’s wrong with that party under his leadership

  37. Sorry but this story is so wrong. The teens trailed off course from the march of life to go see another protesting going on, a peaceful protesting until the teens unsupervised went and harassed native americans, not latinos, not muslims not africans. The natives of America and no I’m not talking about white colonizers. This page is wrong and you should feel bad robby soave

    1. You should watch the video…..

    2. Oh wow. Not letting those horrible facts in the video get in the way of your feelings, huh.

      1. dishonesty and invincible ignorance are part an d parcel for these people.

    3. Who gives a shit what ethnic identity any involved were? But you do bring up a good point. Where were the chaperones? They should have intervened and got their students the hell out of their when the Black Israelites were yelling at them.

    4. They were not protesting. They were on a field trip and were waiting for their bus when they were approached by the drummer(s).

    5. Zach, you’re a funny fucker. I’m not sure you could be more entertaining if you tried. Your comment is like watching a hilarious sight gag.

      It’s even funnier that you take yourself seriously.

  38. This article is blasphemous and down right false. You need to get your facts straight. The teens were looking for bull shit to start and for what? Because him and his racist colonizer school wants a fucking wall? To what keep out the drugs your own government makes and gives to your people for pescriptions and medicated by your own doctors. To keep out hatred? The hatred is growing because articles like this wants to lie to the world. What happened to real news. This is not exercising freedom of speech if these white teens are being rude to elders, doesn’t matter who or what race, elders are to be respected at all times. These kids aren’t religious the “devil” controls them and they’re puppet master donald dump. Down with the kkk fuck this article and I only made an account to say all this.

    1. ‘Blasphemous’ is an old-timey, meaningless word.

    2. You have a tiny, tiny, tiny mind, which explains why it is so easily filled with hate. The hatred is growing because people like you love to pile on. Take a good look at yourself.

    3. Feel free to start the revolution any time now, Antifag.

    4. Someone else who didn’t–and won’t–watch the video, because they’d hate to have to admit they got it wrong.

    5. Zachery652|1.20.19 @ 5:59PM|#
      ‘Sputter, TRUMP! snarl, lie, bullshit, more lies, silly crap…’

      Does your keyboard short out from the spittle, you pathetic piece of shit?

  39. Here’s hoping A LOT of publications are sued into oblivion. Maybe the journalists can learn coding or something more useful than being the town gossip

  40. Facts don’t matter because the kid is wearing a MAGA hat.

    This is the rationale of leftists when confronted with facts. They don’t have the fortitude nor integrity to admit when they are wrong. The end justifies the means. This is important to acknowledge because when this story is presented as a media “misfire” it neglects the fact that media had access to the full video and deliberately ran with a false narrative.

    1. Facts don’t matter because that’s the way postmodernists roll.

  41. What’s really sad is these leftists will never learn. Every single time something like this comes out they learn nothing. Duke Lacrosse, hands up don’t shower, these kids, etc. every time the mistake is all in the same direction, and they will just move on to their next target

  42. Set up. The left is great at this, but they are over playing it. Its all coming back to bite them in the ass.

  43. Where is the Progressive outrage at the people who actually caused this mess–the Black Hebrews attacking gays and calling Native Americans “Uncle Tomahawks.”

    Asking for a friend.

    1. They’re protected by their magic skin.

      1. Yep. The net result of rioting is a nation afraid to criticize anyone with black skin.

  44. The Black Hebrew Israelites should be Honorary Reason Commentators.

    Those cats are pro’s.

  45. The video amusingly begins with the BHI’s lead speaker proselytizing to some of the Native Americans — informing them that all humanity worshiped their “Hebrew” God back “before [you] started worshiping totem poles”, and trying to bring them back into the fold. One could argue that would be fairly offensive to them in its own right. That that’s gotten zero press coverage is notable, though I guess that there was apparently only 5 BHIs makes them statistically irrelevant.

    It also is likely a large part of what persuaded Phillips that the students were the aggressors — they had circled the ranting BHIs in what likely looked an intimidating fashion simply on the basis of numbers. The BHIs comment on that, calling it an intentional effort to intimidate, though I’ve seen the BHIs attract similar crowds on the streets of New York back in the day, and suspect it’s really more of a “what the hell is that” reaction. The students’ MAGA hats also likely marked them as “obvious aggressors”.

    The real takeaway from this whole mess is the repulsive state of journalism. Tons of ink spilled on an event that no press seems to have been present for, and yet opines on at length to support the narrative of their choice.

    1. ” persuaded Phillips that the students were the aggressors ”

      Philips was the aggressor and every word that came out of his mouth was a lie.

  46. …perhaps discuss some strategies for remaining on perfect behavior at highly charged political rallies?where everybody is recording everything on a cell phone?and let that be the end of it.

    Impossible. You can’t taunt a single male student, much less a group, and expect perfect behavior. You couldn’t expect it from any of us. The only perfect behavior would be to not show up to protest at all, which is what those who mischaracterized the exchange would ultimately want.

  47. Lied Robby, Lied.
    Is it that hard?

    1. po-tay-to, po-tah-to…

      1. Actually that’s Mister Po-tay-to to you.

  48. I watched the entire video, although I made frequent use of the fast-forward in 15 second increments. I saw exactly 4 African-American extremists shouting slogans and spewing insults. They were, however, completely peaceful and vastly outnumbered by the MAGA mob. The MAGA kids, inexplicably, started roaring cheers, led by some kid who took off his shirt and started preening and flexing for no apparent reason. The white crowd at that point seemed vaguely theeatening. I saw nothing to justify the conduct toward the Native American.

    1. “I saw nothing to justify the conduct toward the Native American.”

      Yeah sure, somebody walks up to you and beets a drum directly in front of your face is nothing to get upset about.

      And, BTW, those kids are Native Americans too.

      1. I would have given the old man one warning. After that, I would have knocked him the fuck out. No piece of shit Leftard gets in my face like that.

    2. ” the conduct toward the Native American.”

      Which was?

      Standing and smiling awkwardly while he beat a drum in people’s faces?

  49. “Various media figures and Twitter users called for them to be doxed, shamed, or otherwise punished, and school administrators said they would consider expulsion.”

    Name them.

    “he teen has been called the product of a “hate factory” and likened to a school shooter, segregation-era racist, and member of the Klu Klux Klan.”

    By who? Name them.

    “The boys are undoubtedly owed an apology from the numerous people who joined this social media pile-on. “

    Name. Them.

    The ‘media misfire’ is a media that will not police itself.

    You are worse than the cops.

    1. Search “calls for teens wearing maga hats to be disciplined”; 678,000 results, incluing Yahoo News, CBS, several congress critters, The Wrap (mentioning ‘hollywood stars’), mashable, Daily Mail, and so forth.
      Now:
      STFU.

      1. Jesus, Sevo, chill out. ThomasD isn’t saying “it didn’t happen that way”, he’s calling Robby out for not naming the responsible parties in the media. “Responsible” should proabably be in quotes there, since propagating this sort of bullshit is anything but.

        1. perlchpr|1.20.19 @ 11:00PM|#
          “Jesus, Sevo, chill out. ThomasD isn’t saying “it didn’t happen that way”, he’s calling Robby out for not naming the responsible parties in the media. “Responsible” should proabably be in quotes there, since propagating this sort of bullshit is anything but.”
          Please see my apology below.

    2. This.

      The problem with the whole,

      pretending these are ‘errors’/’mistakes’ by media, rather than intentional, repeated unethical behaviors

      … is that it amounts to giving the bad-actors a pass while pretending to criticize them.

      Its just a backdoor Robby opens up for other journalists to allow anyone to avoid any real accountability for their actions.

      They play this fucking game and think its not obvious.

      I appreciate Robby standing up for reality here, but the fact this milquetoaste demurral from the Prevailing Narrative is seen as bold and controversial is ridiculous. Its the bare minimum of intellectual honesty. Its not something to be celebrated, it should be the baseline.

    3. “Name. Them.”
      I apologize.
      I misunderstood that you were claiming there were no idiots calling for censure of the kids.

      1. Thanks Sevo, I probably could have been a bit clearer – but was going for brevity. Gilmore expanded on my point better than I could have.

        There was nothing ‘wild” about the mischaracterization of those kids. The media is chocked full of bigots who are only capable of seeing what their black hearts want to see. That’s why all these ‘errors’ run in one direction only. It’s not ‘wild’ it’s entirely predictable.

        Robby knows this, but he wont admit it.

        And he certainly will not confront any of them with specifics. Because he’s a coward.

    4. It’s time to do something about the media. Maybe RICO charges.

  50. There’s gotta be a tipping point against these left wing fascists, and this seems like a good line to draw. The media and left wing mob’s behavior is unacceptable.

  51. Wait, the media can be dishonest? That’s impossible.

  52. At last, the smoking guns !!!!

    Donald Trump is Finished

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjUvfZj-Fm0

    1. It’s hilarious how they all borrow each other’s sloganeering.

      “Walls closing in!” X 100

      1. But… I thought walls were bad!

  53. ‘It would be impossible to definitively state that none of the young men did anything wrong, offensive, or problematic’

    By whose effing standards??? According to leftist their very existence is problematic.

    1. That’s the problem.

  54. The Diocese of Covington bought into the media narrative and threw their own kids to the wolves.

    https://www.covdio.org/

    Not the first time that Catholic clerics have fucked Catholic students in the ass.

  55. Brief note about grammar and punctuation: Nathan Phillips is singular, so it should read “Nathan Phillips’s story”.

    1. “Philipi”

      1. “Philliporum”

    2. No. The second s is superfluous.

  56. A different video that I watched showed one of Nathan’s comrades yelling that white people should “go back to Europe” because “this is not your land.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkXfiKrT80U

  57. Thank you so much for writing this. Now, if I only had the courage to share it….

  58. That kid exercised incredible restraint.

    HS me would have fed him lunch. A drum stick.

    Heck present day 59 year old me would have given one warning and the tossed the drum stick

  59. That HS kid exercised a lot of restraint

    HS me would have fed the Chief lunch a drum stick

    Heck even present day 59 year old me would have given him one warning to back off and then tossed the drum stick

  60. Robby …. best go shave your vagina with that new Gillette razor and stop writing essay on Reason. You are just too much of a beta-male Leftist.

  61. Robby … better go shave your vagina with a Gillette razor and let adults do the reporting. You clearly are not up to the challenge.

    1. Do you have a specific complaint or is infowars temporarily shut down?

  62. Perhaps Robby and his reason colleagues will now understand why the press/media is the enemy of the people, nah….

  63. Sorry, I have not been paying attention for the past few decades. When did alien retards take over D.C.?

    1. Worst part of visiting d.c. is the numerous regards. Been that way since the 90s

    2. I think around prohibition times, but it might have been earlier. Problem is all the documentation is on these printed paper things no one can decipher.

  64. Somebody better get Robby a change of underwear.

  65. That is a very thoughtful statement that the young man provided. Good for him.

    Even from the short video clip, it didn’t seem like he was mocking or provoking Mr. Phillips, just kinda standing there, perhaps confused. I guess that was the case after all.

  66. Screw the media, and screw the Diocese of Cuntington for lying about their own students.

    Please turn in your hymnals to no. 666

    1. Most of the bishops should be hanging from a tree anyways

    1. Apparently this kid is not above lying either. Though I suspect this student isn’t entirely responsible for the drafting of that statement.

      There’s simply no denying the look on his face as he stood there without moving from the path of Mr. Phillips. His expression does not characterize any of the b.s. he just spouted as what was going through his mind as he stood there.

        1. Stop talking to yourself.

      1. How is he lying when all the video supports your recollection? A lot of news outlets should be sued out of existence. You ruin kids lives over an SJW crusade?

      2. You can read minds?

        1. Yes Ryan, he can! Just like Professor X! And Is clearly a trained expert at evaluating body language and facial expressions, p,us he obviously has spent an extensive amount of time with this kid.

          Didn’t you k is this applies to ALL progtards?

      3. Neither, apparently, are shitlibs wastes of life.

      4. “There’s simply no denying the look on his face as he stood there without moving from the path of Mr. Phillips”

        One more lefty imbecile hoping a ‘deep analysis’ of facial features will give lie to what the video clearly shows.
        Tell that to those for whom you’re preparing that latte’, lefty loser.

      5. 1) “There’s simply no denying the look on his face ”

        How does one deny, ‘a look on a face’?

        Looks on faces MEAN NOTHING. All you’re saying is, “i am going to cynically impute foul motives because i don’t like his face”. The only thing established by this statement is that you’re a fucking idiot.

        2) :”as he stood there without moving from the path of Mr. Phillips. ”

        As the video shows, “Mr Phillips” came right up into the kid’s face – there was no ‘path’ he was being blocked from. Mr Indian Dude decided to bang his drum in a kid’s face to try and provoke him. And rather than be provoked, he just smiled awkwardly.

        Your version of the video, where the kids injected themselves into the indian guy’s space, is horseshit, and doesn’t exist.

      6. The mind can go to great lengths to support a presumption. I’m always amazed at how progressives seem unable to step out of a presumption and look at an issue in context and with no biases. I’d be more interested if they didn’t pose such a problem for us all.

      7. LOL…sounds like a comment based on science…hahahahahaha

      8. “There’s simply no denying the look on his face …”

        Old Bull Connor, meet the new Bull Connor.

  67. Looks like we had a reddit retard invasion. Usually they only drop in on the Net Neutrality threads.

    1. Digital toughies

      1. I think it’s fun. The fox guy called Trump’s election a “failed win”, refuses to acknowledge media malfeasance, and claims that he can read children’s minds.

        It’s a bunch of Tony’s with even less coherent thoughts

        1. Nah, Tony is a far better troll. He could totally eat this guy’s ass. Or is it his lunch?

          No, no. In Tony’s Case, he could eat this guy’s ass.

          1. I feel like Tony is more dominant than that.

    2. This article is linked to on RealClearPolitics which is where I saw it.

  68. Forget the Leftists and whether they will admit having been wrong. Any chance Prof Steve Horwitz Will review the new information and retract his hasty post about wanting to punch the kid?
    Any chance Prof Steve Horwitz, a fantastic economist, a terrific defender of free markets, and great teacher of economics will recognize his bias at flying off the handle on social issues and emoting without having awaited for more info?

    1. Horwitz is a cuck and a communist. Always has been. A purge of the red entryists is long overdue.

  69. At 12:25 mark, teen deliberately moved closer to Phillips.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WzJU1L-1VrE

    1. He moved closer? Why, that’s outrageous! Only leftwingers who are frothing at the mouth in righteous indignation are allowed to do that!

      We’ve seen the full video, leftard. You lose.

      -jcr

      1. Watch in slow mo. Or stop-start. Several times. Notice where teen is. Notice black jacket behind him. Then magically he is not there, but in elder’s face, unbudging, smirking, looking like “just give me a reason old man…”

        I’m not a leftard as you assume, repuke. I’m just someone who wants the TRUTH. Try it. It might set you free from your prison.

        1. I’m not a leftard as you assume, repuke. I’m just someone who wants the TRUTH.

          A shitlib lying twice in two sentences.

        2. ReeSon|1.20.19 @ 10:03PM|#
          “Watch in slow mo. Or stop-start. Several times. Notice where teen is. Notice black jacket behind him. Then magically he is not there, but in elder’s face, unbudging, smirking, looking like “just give me a reason old man…””
          So if we edit it just right or squint, we might find you’re not the lying POS you seem to be? Naah; why would I fool myself.

          “I’m not a leftard as you assume, repuke. I’m just someone who wants the TRUTH. Try it. It might set you free from your prison.”
          No, you’re worse. Fuck off, slaver.

        3. “repuke”

          Only leftards say stupid shit like this.

          1. Since you spend so much time defending the Republican party, surely you can name one significant positive contribution they’ve made to this world in the last, oh say, 40 years.

            1. Since you spend so much time defending the Republican party, surely you can name one significant positive contribution they’ve made to this world in the last, oh say, 40 years.

              Not being Democrats.

            2. “Since you spend so much time defending the Republican party”

              That is almost as good as your “I got a free ride” lie.

              1. Well that’s a failure to answer the question on both of your parts.

                No big deal, the answer is they haven’t done fuck all.

                1. 154 years ago, Republicans ended slavery in the USA by amending the US Constitution.

                  You Democrats have been upset about that ever since.

                2. I’m not the Republican’s mommy, if any of them want to defend their work they can.

                  The fact that you’re stupid enough to even suffest I defend them shows just how useless that education you’re still paying off is.

                3. “”Since you spend so much time defending the Republican party””

                  “Well that’s a failure to answer the question on both of your parts”

                  I love how you bitch at me like a little dog about both defending and not defending the Republicans.

                  Make up your fucking mind, then get some help.

            3. Reagan did a lot of good stuff.

    2. LOCK HIM UP

      You progressives are so adorable

    3. If you’re going to take the time to virtual signal why can’t you take the time to watch the raw video? It’s linked up top. Do you need everything to be filtered to you?

      1. Virtual signal. I like that.

  70. Thomas Massie defends the students and says it’s “an honor” to have them as constituents

    https://bit.ly/2FEbnL9

    1. He doesn’t want to run afoul of the WaPo.

    2. He’s a “boofing” truther too

      1. He’s Cathy?

    3. Of course Balko does. I wouldn’t expect otherwise.

      1. When the WaPo pays your bills, then you dance to their tune.

        Google “Jennifer Rubin” for another example.

    4. Balko says the kids (kids!) were not “fully exonerated.”

      Balko needs to fully go fuck himself. Because he certainly can never be exonerated for holding that attitude about people who did nothing more than express themselves in public.

      People tried to destroy them. They don’t owe you shit Radly.

    5. Radley tries, and fails, to walk back his jumping to conclusions. He just can’t overcome his TDS. Feel sorry for him, people.

      1. Working for an ostensibly libertarian rag doesn’t make one a libertarian. Just ask Nick.

        1. Examples of what happens to your brain on TDS.

          Any questions?

  71. Ya know, I’ve been thinking that when the media have to retract something they really ought to do it repeatedly over the course of four or five days just as vociferously as they peddled the false story.

  72. Thank you for your take. The NYT article waffled on the students’ involvement. You did the heavy lifting by viewing the video in its entirety. The take is that the Black Israelites instigated this mess, the NAs misunderstood it and the students kept their composure. I only hope that the school administration has the courage to do the right thing. Initial reactions from them argues that they are a spineless, gutless and inept bunch.

  73. I’m afraid that Sandmann’s essay provides a counter-argument to the libertarian contention that private education tends to be superior to public education. “Diffuse the situation”, indeed! Somebody needs to spend more time in English class and less time Marching For Life.

    1. “I’m afraid that Sandmann’s essay provides a counter-argument to the libertarian contention that private education tends to be superior to public education.”

      We’re always amused when lefty assholes show up to claim libertarianism is wrong based on a flawed reading of a single example.
      It provides a counter-argument to the claim that lefties have an IQ above room temperature,

    2. Another reddit retard weighs in. Maybe spend a little less time clenching your little fists over your high school failures and not getting to fuck the hottest girl in school.

      1. Jake Tapper and some media folks are tweeting this story in their mea culpas, so it’s getting more attention than usual.

        1. Meghan McCain called Robby her friend and urged followers to read his piece. That beats Tapper.

          1. And now Drudge. Things should be interesting here.

    3. These people are cultists. They deny footage

  74. The media didn’t bother to investigate this further because they wanted to believe the initial narrative, just like they did with the Buzzfeed bombshell. So you see, it was merely journalistic malpractice, not incompetence. Whew!

    Fun fact – the freedom of press merely allows the press to do its job unencumbered by government intrusion. Nothing sacrosanct is violated when someone calls buffoonish journos the “enemy of the people” when they effectively act like one.

  75. When that Black Hebrew kept calling those Native Americans “Uncle Tomahawks” I openly wept. I’m still weeping. Somebody make it stop! It hurts so much!

  76. Hey media, you want more Trump? Because this is how you get more Trump.

    1. You’re right, and I think they actually do.

    2. Seriously, I did not vote for Trump but am seriously considering it next time because of people like this. They should never be given power

      1. “These people” . How the fuck can you watch two years of Trump rallies and everything else associated with that movement (the naked racism and insanity that dominates rightwing internet sites) and yet it’s this fucking shit that finally triggers you into voting for a scumbag? Fuck you. You belong with the Trump scum.

        1. Oh noes!!! An SJW cried racist. Must be a day ending in y.

        2. All the ‘naked racism’ is on the left, you hack.

        3. naked racism

          Way sexier than normal racism.

          1. Mind you, I have no personal knowledge of this, but I understand there is a subgenre of pron out there where white women pretend to be racists and spout racist statements while being ravaged by minority men.

            Once again, I have not seen this myself. But Rule 34 says it likely exists.

        4. You belong with the Trump scum.

          So you’re saying he’s deplorable. Incidentally, this type of illogical and unfounded disparagement is how you got Trump and how you are going to keep him for another 6 years. Cheers!

          1. It is as if Trump is controlling his opposition!

    3. This is how you get more Trump, at least. Keep it up, and they could get President Nugent.

    4. More of that intense focus on the real issues that Trump fans are famous for.

      America is run by a demented clown because 30% of the adults in this country have the brains of toddlers. There’s your burning national priority. Build a fucking wall around them.

      1. And Trump beat Hillary. He beat her bad.

        That means that Hillary supporters have brains of fetuses. Undeveloped and barely used.

        They want to build a wall of illegals around them. Democrats already got 700 miles of border obstacles placed in the past few decades.

      2. You want me to tell you to cry more? Because this is how you get me to tell you to cry more.

        Also, I was simply observing that this helps Trump. You turned that observation into some kind of endorsement because you’re stupid and deranged.

        Now go get a job and start paying back those student loans.

  77. Props to you Robby for calling this out.

  78. Hey Robby! Good write up.

    The good folks over at CNN and the NYT could use your help. They both have posted extremely disingenuous “soft retractions” that restate the mischaracterizations and lies, then say that the video suggests maybe there’s some wiggle room in that interpretation, and then go back to the original narrative as if they hadn’t seen anything.

    For me the real giveaway on the whole thing is that we are pretending that what some teenage kid did on his school trip is national news. Even if the media narrative was perfectly accurate and not a fabrication, it isn’t even local news. Even if the kid had taken a big dump right in Abe Lincoln’s marble lap, it wouldn’t have been newsworthy on a national scale. This is how you know that it was purely people who had a pre-existing narrative and an agenda to push who were writing and publishing the story.

  79. Nice try, trump lovers. We know who was provoking who. Those moronic teens started the whole thing.

    1. How dare they be born!

  80. So…. even though everything about the leftist narrative was a lie, let’s assume it wasn’t.

    So how is a group of high school kids being disrespectful even local news, much less national news? So what?

    And if this narrative were true, which is isn’t…. how horrible of a person are you to want to dox and send death threats to a 15yo who acted rudely but didn’t act violently in any way. That you find meaning in your life by ruining the life of other people you’ve never met and don’t know anything about, other than a 10 second clip someone posted online. That’s all the evidence you need to call the social justice lynch mob against him, his family, his school, etc. That you would feel no remorse if something actually did happen to him. That you think any of this is appropriate or just. And you are probably the same people with a ‘coexist’ bumper sticker on their car, who protest ‘faciscm’

    Seriously, what the absolute fuck is wrong with all of these people on twitter and in the media? These are the most disgusting acts and they don’t even bat an eye. They think they are actually in the right here, and they are despicable. CNN and the Washington Post are doubling down. It’s all hate and narrative and zero evidence with them; they knew that kid was guilty the second they saw his picture and will not back down. What the absolute fuck.

    1. You know, one kid acting like a jack ass wouldn’t have made the news.
      It was several busloads of kids and they were intimidating, and that’s the difference.
      Their teachers are idiots.
      Go to YouTube and search for Covington blackface.
      They’ve had some practice being scary.

      1. My God the stupid is strong with this one. I don’t know what’s more predictable than a Leftist not being familiar with a common high school sporting tradition like a “blackout”

  81. Not all Trump Republicans are racist, but all racists are Trump Republicans.

    1. So much race baiting vermin at Reason today.

      They seem really pissed off that their race baiting blew up in their faces today.

    2. In other words, “The world will be a better place once we eliminate this group.” That is the core of progressive philosophy, because it is inspired by theories of progressive evolution. Evolution is great for explaining geology and how non-human organisms develop resistance to antibiotics or pesticides, but it is a horrible foundation for a political philosophy. If your vision for the future includes the elimination of a group, expect some serious push back.

      1. “Evolution is great for explaining geology ”

        Surely you meant genealogy.

        1. Evolution explains the fossils that geologists find.

    3. Must be why Trump was the first Republican presidential nominee to win Chicago in a landslide…

  82. Not all Trump Republicans are racist, but all racists are Trump Republicans.

      1. Apparently, “Reformed Conservative” has never been to Chicago.

        1. I don’t think you have either.

          1. Chris Morton has.

            http://www.thetruthaboutguns.c…..nt-3984654

            Chicago is the most racist place in North America, far more racist than any place in the South I’ve ever been.

            But it’s not stereotypical media “racism”.

            EVERYBODY hates EVERYBODY who’s different.

            * Whites hate Blacks.
            * Blacks hate Jews.
            * Mexicans hate Puerto Ricans.
            * Mainland Italians hate Sicilians.

            If there were REAL aliens there, the Rumulans would hate the Vulcans.

            The average Chicagoan will let you steal his last nickel if he thinks you’ll use it to hurt somebody different from him.

            And speaking of aliens, Chicago reminds me of that Star Trek TOS episode where the guy who was black on the right and white on the left spent eternity fighting the guy who was black on the left and white on the right.

            Of course the cops hate EVERYBODY, be they a Black kid in an El station or a White barmaid trying to stop them from stealing liquor.

  83. The last ten minutes, which nobody seems to have watched, shows the BHI guys and a few of the teenage boys just standing around and talking.

  84. Just when I thought Robby might have gotten a story right, he still swallows Phillips’ transparently false narrative of his own perceptions and actions hook, line, and sinker except where absolute controverted

    Philips didn’t “decide to intervene”, he decided to harass, banging his drum and chanting in a young man’s face.

    “all the evidence suggests that Phillips got it backward.”

    Noooooo. All evidence suggests the Philips is race baiting vermin who did his best create a false narrative of young white men in MAGA hats being Racity Racist Evil Nazis.

    Philips is the Klan without the actual lynchings, doing his best to terrorize minorities with a narrative of white male supremacists roaming America terrorizing minorities.

    Philips is societal cancer. Along with the rest of the race baiting Left.

    This includes, of course, our very own racebaiterjeff.

    1. Jeff is a master at race baiting.

      1. He’s a master-race-baiter…

    2. Phillips got tired of taking shit from the black Hebrews.

      So, in good bully fashion, rather than standing up to his actual tormenters, he instead chose to target someone else. Someone he perceived as weaker.

  85. An admirably fair outline of what the video(s) appear to show, except for one detail. The ‘Native American’ group can also be clearly heard to tell these children, “this is our land, go back to your land” on several occasions. That their elder then goes on television to denigrate the white kids, siding with the black extremists would suggest a more racially charged interpretation of this event.

    1. It was worse than that.

      Native American drummer’s racist friend
      “You white people go back to Europe, this is not your land”
      https://goo.gl/PqKj6a

      1. Technically, their land is Greater Asia, meaning Asia plus Alaska, if we go back far enough. Can you imagine the outrage if someone suggested sending all the Native Americans back to Alaska?

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  87. When you have an agenda the truth doesn’t matter. Where are the apologies? The HuffPo’s headline was “New Video Complicates Uproar Over Incident Between Student And Native American Man”. Yet every other outlet I read said the video supported the students story. Not that it “complicates” it. Outraged, totally wrong and refusing to admit it.

  88. So, looking over the HnR commentariate, I can see that a bunch of people didn’t watch the 1.5 hour long video, or even a representative sample of it…. so here’s a summary of what actually happened, as far as I can tell:

    The group of high school boys are gathering to wait for there buses, as instructed. While they are waiting this group of street preachers from a racist religious cult start harassing them. They are not “young black men preaching the bible” as CNN, the NYT and others are characterizing it. They are older men who are yelling racist and homophobic taunts at a bunch of teenage boys.

    The boys have various responses, but they are in the vein of “that’s not right”. After a while they become frustrated with being trapped waiting where they were told to wait while being berated by these cult members, so they start chanting school cheers – like they are at a football game – in order to drown them out. One kid runs to the front of the boys and pulls off his shirt and leads them in a mowri-war-chant-style cheer. The boys enthusiastically join in, effectively blocking the conversation.

  89. As the boys are chanting their school name (not “build the wall”), a group of native American activists comes between the two groups banging their drums. The boys react enthusiastically, cheering and jumping up and down to the rhythm of the drums. It is clear that the boys believe the drummers are on their side. The BHI guys also clearly believe this, because they loudly comment to that effect on the video. They taunt the kids that daddy is coming to save them.

    The native American drummers form a line between the two groups, facing the teens and drumming. They appear to be attempting to form a blockade with their bodies, drowning out and blocking the street preaching cultists. Then one of them (Phillips) begins advancing into the group of teens.

    The teens react by continuing to cheer and jump up and down to the beat. They move out of the way as he advances into their group. Phillips walks up to one of the kids and goes right into his space, drumming and chanting right in his face. The kid stands there passively, looking a little confused. Phillips keeps drumming, right in his face for way too long. The kid smiles back and doesn’t move or back down.

    1. The group of boys reacts in different ways. Some don’t notice and continue dancing to the drums, trying to figure out how best to participate…. some start doing the Florida State war chant cheer, others jump up and down, others clap along. Some move around to get a better view as Phillips and now some of his entourage carrying cameras group around the teenage boy. Nobody threatens or mocks the native group. Several look confused at this turn of events.

      Eventually they move off and quit banging the drum in the boy’s face.

    2. The group of boys reacts in different ways. Some don’t notice and continue dancing to the drums, trying to figure out how best to participate…. some start doing the Florida State war chant cheer, others jump up and down, others clap along. Some move around to get a better view as Phillips and now some of his entourage carrying cameras group around the teenage boy. Nobody threatens or mocks the native group. Several look confused at this turn of events.

      Eventually they move off and quit banging the drum in the boy’s face.

      1. When people bang drums in your face, is it your instinct to stand there and grin like a douchecanoe?

        1. This is a good point Tony.

          How would one expect someone to react when you walk up to them, stare them down and bang a drum inches from their face?

          No, I wouldn’t expect a passive, non-confrontational response. I’d expect an angry reaction. Most sane people would. I would expect that if I walked up to someone on the mall in DC and banged a drum in their face, they’d react by knocking the drum away, yelling at me or otherwise becoming belligerent in return.

          So if Phillips walks up to a kid with a MAGA hat on, cameras and supporters in tow, and starts banging his drum in the kid’s face and staring at him, what do you suppose he expects will happen? Does he think that the boy will decide not to react? Does he think that the boy will disappear?

          Or does he think that the boy will start yelling at him and try to knock the drum away? What was Phillips hoping for?

          The boy reacts the way a teenage boy who does not want to fight reacts when being provoked. He doesn’t back down, but gives no threatening response. He smiles to show that he isn’t being threatening or intimidated. He reacts exactly the way the kid who doesn’t like to fight reacts when the bully starts picking a fight.

          1. A MAGA hat is a racist, fascist political message. I don’t know what’s going on here, and people who’ve seen the same videos disagree about who’s being the douche (I don’t see how the Indian guy is being a douce at all, though). But it is simple fact, however much you don’t like it because of your deep impenetrable love for the Republican party and its current simian leader, that these kids are little brownshirt fuckfaces. Of course I don’t abide death threats, and I do hope they grow out of it, but if that guy were an actual Mexican you might be capable of seeing which direction the provocation was going.

            1. Pretending for a moment that there is any honesty in your response, you are suffering from what is known as “cognitive dissonance”. This is what happens when a deeply held belief confronts conflicting evidence. Your brain attempts to filter out the dissonant information.

              There is no honest way to describe standing still in a group of people as “being a douche”. There is no honest way to view someone walking up to a person you don’t know and banging a drum in their face as “not being a douche at all”.

              You certainly would not feel like Sevo was not “being a douche” if he walked up to you while you were waiting for the bus and started banging a drum in your face. You’d feel like you were being assaulted.

              But since you are hyper partisan, you are forced to see anyone who disagrees with your political views as “evil”. So supporting a major party candidate is not just wrong, it is racist.

              You see, you are so deeply ingrained in your ideological dichotomy that you can’t view the world objectively. You can’t see that disagreeing with a lie that supports your cause isn’t the same thing as supporting the other team. You are like the idiot at the sports bar who claims that the referees are conspiring against his team and then wants to fight the guy who says “it was a good call”.

              1. I’m not the one wearing any goddamn hat. And I don’t understand sports analogies.

                1. And I don’t understand sports analogies.
                  FTFY

                  Your comment of 7:37AM is a perfect encapsulation of your inability to understand the meaning of the written text that comes before.

            2. Holy shit. Ho-ly Shit. This is some next level self delusion.

            3. Do you even know what “fascism” means, Tony?

              Here’s a hint: Socialism > Fascism > Nazism.

            4. Of course you don’t Tony. Of course you don’t.

            5. Something doesn’t become “fascist” because you want it to be, Tony. Many more people in Chicago will lose their lives than people even slightly inconvenienced by people who wear MAGA hats.

              I doubt American Indians in modern times defuse confrontations by beating drums, chanting, dancing, and smoking peace pipes. The left stood correct when a full video was released, so they shifted the goal post to criticizing the kids for singing along and doing the tomahawk chant. Even though most of them had no idea what as going on and some thought he was on their side.

              The left assigned cultural value to a jerk banging on a drum at a kid’s face (while the group endured racist taunts). It comes from the same mindset that gets offended by college cafeterias putting mayo in Bahn mi sandwhichs. Your pals reduce minorities and underrepresented individuals to causes and feel good talking points and put them on pedestals, without acutually doing anything for them.

          2. To Tony anyone or anything that celebrates good things for America is racist, sexist, and a homophobe.

            To Tony, America must burn.

            1. Among the good things about America are our advances in civil rights for oppressed classes of people–which people like you have opposed every step of the way and continue to bleat against, however insanely.

              You’re so broken you’re reduced to muttering about building a wall around people who are different from you. It’s a sign of progress, I think.

              1. “Among the good things about America are our advances in civil rights for oppressed classes of people”

                But not for actual people.
                And no, Tony, as much as I enjoy you I don’t expect you’ll understand the difference

            2. Poor Tony thinks there are oppressed classes in the USA.

              Marx and Tony would have been lovers, clearly.

              If you think the USA is moving more progressive, then how did Trump get elected? How is Trump and most of America able to throw off more and more chocks of Socialism?

              Gaining more freedom…that’s progress!

        2. When people bang drums in your face, is it your instinct to stand there and grin like a douchecanoe?

          Tony implies the kid should have put the drummer’s head through the concrete.

          1. Tony is finally right about something.

        3. If someone tried that shit, I would knock them the fuck out. I live here in OKC if you would like to try me you fucking cunt.

          1. Strong words for someone who’s probably fucked a tranny without realizing it, what with living in OKC and all.

            1. Isn’t that right next door to you?

              Or is that Tulsa?

      2. From watching the video you can conclude that the media narrative is not just wrong or mistaken, it is indefensible. There is no way to reconcile what the activist group told the media with the video.

        There were no group of young black men preaching the bible. They were older men and obviously out of the norm for what anyone would call “preaching the bible”. There is no way to interpret what the kids were doing as initiating the conflict, hurling racist taunts at the street preachers or any of the other characterizations in the media.

        There is no way to honestly characterize the one kid’s actions the way CNN does in their retraction article:

        The situation was starting to grow calm until Sandmann got in Phillips’ face, Taitano said. Phillips kept chanting and beating his drum as other boys circled around, “mocking him and mocking the chant,” Taitano said.

        There are several videos out there from several angles. Every one of them shows that Phillips walked into the crowd of boys and walked straight up to the kid wearing a MAGA hat and started banging his drum inches from the boys face, chanting and staring him down. There is no way to honestly interpret that as “Sandmann got in Phillips’ face.” This is an unadulterated lie and for CNN to publish it without clarification is participating in the dishonesty.

        1. CNN has finally pulled their original story this morning, but they continue to attempt to steer the narrative in the direction of “Trump inspired racists taunt and attack peace-loving Native American war veteran”.

          This is not just “one possible interpretation”. From the video evidence we know that they know it is not true.

          We know that they know that Phillips lied to their interviewers when he insisted that they were just trying to march up the steps and the boy blocked his way and refused to move. He was not headed in that direction at all until they decided to get in the middle of two other groups. The rest of his group did not attempt to “march up the stairs” at all, they lined up as if performing between the groups and for the boys.

          We know that the lady from Phillips’ entourage is lying about what the boys were doing and how they acted toward Phillips, because we can see for ourselves on tape. The boys reacted enthusiastically to the drummers joining their chanting and did not approach them. Phillips’ actions were aggressive and confrontational and carried out with an entourage filming – clearly hoping to capture any conflict he provoked.

        2. What’s important is that you get this minor culture war win in the name of Trump. Hail Trump.

          1. That doesn’t make much sense.

            CNN, the NYT and Huffington Post are the ones carrying the water here. They took the story from the activist group and ran with it on the front page as the main story as an attempt to embarrass Trump by claiming that Trump supporters are racist.

            Even a facile examination of the evidence would have shown them that they were peddling a lie. But they chose not to look and ran with it any way.

            So no, I don’t think “Hail Trump” is in any way a defensible response. The “culture war” here was entirely fabricated. And it wasn’t fabricated by Trump, Trump supporters or reluctant Trump apologists.

            There is plenty to argue about, even troll about, without completely fabricating a story. And simply repeating team-based mantras like “Hail Trump” isn’t even effective trolling. It is idiotic and dishonest.

            1. I’ve seen more explosive confrontations between drunken lesbians, but the difference is it wasn’t caught on camera. Of course this is culture war bullshit. And I think Trump should lose, because he’s a racist authoritarian mental case, and anyone who signifies their allegiance to him is a racist douchefuck. There is no narrative of this stupid nonevent that excludes the reality that the pasty-faced Trumptards are there to promote horrible ideas and foster hatred of white people against brown people.

              1. Except that that clearly isn’t what happened.

                In fact, there are a handful of brown people among the teens. And the teens loudly condemn racist and homophobic language and ideas right there on the tape in the exact event that you are claiming demonstrates that they are racists.

                You bring your own warped biases to the conversation. Your cartoonish characterization of all who disagree with you is in the tradition of “brownshirts”. You might not agree with those who support Trump ( I don’t – heck, I loudly predicted right here on HnR that he would not get a single vote), but projecting motives on them and casting them as evil because of their disagreement is not rational thought.

                It is not defending the world against racists and fascists. It is in fact the way that authoritarians go about building their cult. The christian kids are not fascist brownshirts. They are a bunch of normal kids who believe that abortion is wrong and wanted to voice that opinion. They acted the way you’d expect a normal group of basically good kids to act when confronted with multiple over-the-top provocations.

                Acknowledging that reality doesn’t mean you support government bans on abortion, nor does it mean you approve of Trump as a person or a politician.

                1. Wearing a MAGA hat is a pretty good signifier that you support Trump, and, by assumption, his racism and fascism. But yes they are kids and hopefully will grow out of it once they discover vaginas. And with a little more luck they’ll then appreciate that human reproduction is a little more complicated than “Father Gropey says every sperm is sacred, even if God didn’t really express an opinion on the matter.”

                2. Wearing a MAGA hat is a pretty good signifier that you support Trump, and, by assumption, his racism and fascism. But yes they are kids and hopefully will grow out of it once they discover vaginas. And with a little more luck they’ll then appreciate that human reproduction is a little more complicated than “Father Gropey says every sperm is sacred, even if God didn’t really express an opinion on the matter.”

                  1. Tony and his Lefty still have yet to explain a single instance of racism or fascism by Trump.

                    To be fair, Tony, still refuses to accept historical fact that Nazis were/are Socialists.

                    1. I accept the high probability that you’re Russian.

                    2. More evidence that lefties hate science and use a lack of evidence to further their delusions.

                      Poor Tony. It officially been 2 years +1 day that Trump has been President.

                      Thank God!

                    3. You can’t even deny it.

                    4. Why would I need to deny a boldface lie coming from you, Tony?

                      Its not true and everyone knows it, including you.

                      You step up the lies when all your Lefty tricks dont work on Libertarians.

                    5. I smell desperation.

                    6. Tony, that your bad breath blowing back into your face.

                    7. Maybe it would seem less desperate if the thread could die.

                      Then again, MAGA hats are trigging.

                  2. Those dastardly Catholic kids supporting that infamous fascist principle that every human life has moral value.

          2. Trump and his supporters are pretty awesome.

            Without those supporters, we would not have Trump. Who is doing a fantastic job for America.

            Best president in over 80 years.

            1. But you don’t really want anyone doing a fantastic job for America. That’s literally the opposite of your job, right? Tell me, where you live, is it prestigious to be the Reason resident propagandist, or is it kind of shit in terms of prestige? I honestly have no idea.

            2. Best.president.in.decades.

              There will be 6 more years of Trump too.

              1. Why not go all out and call for a lifetime dictatorship like the guy you serve?

                1. Naw. I will stick with the Constitutional limits of two terms.

                  Unlike wheelchair Delano. To be fair, he died before he could run for a 5th term.

  90. Those red hat morons are a product of flawed parents….Trust me those idiots in red hats are morons.

    1. Nothing more convincing than trolls.

    2. Another Antifag weighs in.

      1. Why defend people who travel to demonstrate in favor of the big federal government reaching its tentacles into women’s reproductive systems? Why not let them get their just deserts? Why are you on their side?

        Oh, white, Republican. The oppressed need defenders.

        1. Yeah it couldn’t be that they’re kids getting railroaded by people like you.

        2. To Tony, babies and fetuses facing abortion could not possibly be considered oppressed or needing defenders.

          1. They don’t have the capacity to care.

            1. Tony, you dont have the capacity to care and we protect your right to life.

                1. Anyone capable of shame would be eternally marked by that exchange.

        3. Yeah, as if liberals wouldn’t explode if a white woman wanted to abort a half black fetus because she doesn’t want to raise a black kid (rolls eyes). It’s all culture.

          If a woman can have an abortion, why can’t I send my kids to a charter school or eat dog meat?

          Like the fascist that he is, Tony is deflecting after his pals and their smear campaign was proven false. Yeah, false accusations and lies are ok when they’re levied against people who I believe to be fascists.

          BLM was chanting for the death of police and their sympathizers executed maybe a dozen police officers. There are known anti semites in their rank, and also the women’s march. In real terms, MAGA is more dangersous than “Allah Ahkbur” and “Black Lives Matter”?

          Tony is mildly amusing for the most part but there are times darkness of his soul becomes for all to see. I don’t rule out the possibility that he’s a deranged individual.

    3. This blatant irrationality isn’t much worse than the stupid shit other people are saying. It’s just clear and in the open.

      Is there anything persuasive about attacking these kids or their parents?

      No, but that’s what being progressive is about. In its most basic form, progressivism is about using the coercive power of the state to force people to make sacrifices for what they see as the common good, but in practice, they use various means to justify those forced sacrifices, with denigrating their intended victims being a particularly favored tactic.

      No, calling people names and attacking their parents isn’t rational or persuasive, but the intention isn’t to reason or persuade. Progressives want us to believe these people and their rights are worthy of contempt, and that’s because progressives want us to be contemptuous of our rights when they seek to use the coercive power of government to violate them.

      This is why reason is so important. If you’re not susceptible to ad hominem fallacies, you can’t be snookered into sacrificing them this way. There is nothing rational to learn from attacking these kids personally or their parents.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

      Anyone who doesn’t realize that is literally uneducated.

      1. You show up to a political demonstration, you make yourself a target of political commentary.

        Grow a vagina, you fucking snowflake.

        1. You show up to a political demonstration, AND DESPITE DOING NOTHING WRONG, you make yourself a target of ILLEGITIMATE political commentary AND OPEN YOURSELF UP TO ATTACKS AND THREATS FROM THE PROGRESSIVE IGNORATI.

          Fixed it for you.
          If you’re proud to be a shitty progressive, you shouldn’t get your panties in such a bunch when someone points out your despicable tactics and goals.

          1. If Tony was at a political demonstration, I can make up stories about him chanting racist remarks and harassing people! How convenient.

            This is strange, because the left foamed at the mouth when the tea party confronted the black caucus that one time, even though no one said anything objectionable.

          2. What the fuck is illegitimate political commentary.

            Do you people even have thoughts anymore?

  91. All trump supporters wearing a red made in china hat is a bonafide moron.

  92. Trump: Why are we killing ISIS anyway?

    Trumptards: Hell yeah, fuck Saddam Hussein because that’s what the Republican party told us to think at the time, but ISIS is all good because that’s what it’s saying now! Go ISIS!

    1. I just hope he gets us out of Bu$h’s and Obomb’$ illegal wars.

    2. It’s a good question. Why kill ISIS at our own expense when we can just get out of Assad’s way and let him and his allies do it at no cost to us?

      1. Oh, wait. I remember why. “Assad is killing Syrians! We have to kill more Syrians, or else their deaths will have been in vain!”

    3. It’s nice to see that you’re a war mongering piece of shit like Obama and Hillary and are willing to shed your fake anti-war stance.

  93. I wonder if Robbery will admit that the media and Lefties “Wildly Mischaracterized” what historical markers, war memorials, and statutes from the Civil War and other unpopular historical periods actually stood for?

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    1. This guy is making more sense than most of these trolls.

      1. Its a paid advertisement. Of course, it makes sense. Someone paid good money for it.

  96. As I said yesterday before the truth was known. This story is 90% progressive BS and 10% bad reporting…

    1. The media are mostly propagandists and this type of BS is exactly what propagandists do.

      They lie even with the truth right there. The internet and cell phone video has not been kind to propagandists.

    2. and you are/were correct.

  97. (CNN)A video that shows white high school students in Make America Great Again hats and shirts mocking a Native American elder shocked the country, leading to widespread denunciations of the teens’ behavior.
    It was a moment in a bigger story that is still unfolding.

    CNN trying to back track and blame their lies on not having this “other video”.

    The story is “still unfolding”, so I am sure CNN will get to the truth of the matter.

    1. CNN has an article with a second video, this morning, where they correct call the BHI taunting, but persist with the story of the white student “getting in Phillip’s face”.

      I guess, it shows the difference between a professional protestor, versus the amateur BHI folks, as having an eye towards setting up camera angles.

      1. CNN is evil. No, I mean it. Pure evil as we’ve come to understand the term.

        1. Calm down for Christ’s sake. Evil may be banal, but CNN is just boring. Still it manages to report mostly facts unlike the channel you probably prefer.

          1. They’re evil.

            And a bunch of poopy heads.

      2. Its propaganda.

        The narrative was decided already. They just run the story to fool the useful idiots that believe the media lies.

        Evidence leads one to a fact. Video can be great for that because it shows the before and after that a picture wont show. Pictures used to be the bread and butter of propagandists because you can create any narrative you want, if you only have the right picture.

        This video gives context to what the situation mostly was and everyone watching it can draw their own conclusions based on what they saw. The Lefty media went a different route, as they usually do.

  98. All of the fear mongering and hate coming from partisans about Trump or (insert politician) should be funneled into a few things. If you’re scared that Trump is going to start rounding up gays or (insert random group), or you were convinced Obama was going to install a socialist utopia (aka hell) then maybe we should all agree that the federal government should be significantly less powerful. I don’t like or support a strong central government regardless of which douche-bag party is running it.
    Government, regardless of party, should not be able to take your property to build a wall; like wise, government should not be able to rob you of your hard earned money and give it to other people – aka redistribution of wealth. Large powerful governments never increase liberty and freedom.

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  100. The lynch mob will get its blood.

    It’s coming.

    1. I wonder if patriotic Canadians will clean house of Lefties after Civil War 2.0 starts here in the USA.

  101. Most of the time, when individuals in the media make a mistake like this, it can be either attributed to malice, or attributed to a rush to publication with incomplete facts.

    1. Propagandists gotta propagandize.

    2. And water is wet.

      Seriously though, thanks for that totally banal useless statement of the obvious. I’m sorry you lost your opportunity for more of your anti-white racism spieling.

      1. It was the best he could do. It’s not his fault.

    3. Except they seem to make the “mistakes” ALL in the same direction.

      I don’t see mistakes that make conservatives look BETTER as a general rule. Law of averages indicates you should.

    4. Perhaps a bit of both. Or more likely an unconscious/subconscious bias or perspective that affects how they see the world. If you start with a view that Trump supporters are inherently suspect (if not worse) on matters of race then you’ll interpret their behavior through that perspective.
      This is, for me, the main cause of this bias: a sort of confirmation bias among the human beings covering events that affects their news judgment. It’s not an accident (as the old Marxists used to say) that there was almost no coverage of the ugly comments by the black nationalist group; comments that apparently started this whole mess. You have many newsrooms with one view of the world dominating things: editors with that same view editing the stories, and producers with that view producing the stories, and reporters with same view writing the stories. Put this together and you’ll get (generally) that one view filtering the world’s events. It’s not a conspiracy; it’s not a plot; it’s human beings covering human events.

    5. It’s the former, always and without question. When was the last time you saw a story that made Team Red look less bad than they really were, and only after much digging did the journalists (who are almost uniformly members of Team Blue) find out that it was actually worse than they first reported it to be? That never happens. Yet they repeatedly lead with headlines screaming bloody murder that later turn out to be false, only at that point it doesn’t matter because the narrative has been established, the target smeared, and no amount of labor can clean it up. At the very most the corporate media yawns, says a cursory little, “Sorry ’bout your ruined life,” and moves on to their next lie without any real introspection at all. Fuck every last one of them.

  102. I visited the Diocesean website and noted that the webpage still had an item essentially condemning the student’s behavior. I left a message noting that the comment was still up long after the meme had been debunked. I stated they owed the students removal of their comment and an apology. Calmly and succinctly feel free to send that message to the Diocese and school.

    1. Whether you phone the bishop at (859) 392-1500 or email them at info@covdio.org, be sure to be polite – after all, they’ll have lower-level employees taking these messages, and they had nothing to do with the bishop’s misbehavior.

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  104. You know, there’s ANOTHER video that really puts all this in perspective.

    Thomas Massie put it up on his fb page.

    It’s the kids, at the Lincoln Memorial, doing their chanting.

    Last year.

    When there were no BHI or IPM people around.

    They were doing the same stuff. Wearing MAGA hats and CCH and Trump gear.

    And nothing happened.

    Yeah.

    1. Damned sad state of affairs when a politician is doing a better job of defending you than your own church.

      Kids are always learning, the only problem is that what they learn may not be what you think you are teaching.

      Diocese fail.

  105. I don’t think any video is really going to make the students look better. They nuns that taught me demanded we be better than the others, not that we meet them in confrontation. It would not be that we did something wrong, it was that they expected better from us and we did not deliver. If something like this happened you can be sure we would be in for an ass-chewing, followed by a long writing assignment designed to help us behave better next time. Or at least to practice and improve our penmanship.

    1. Give a fuck what a nun thinks.

    2. “we would be in for an ass-chewing”

      So you are saying that the nuns would have responded to you in an equally inappropriate manner? One entirely contrary to what they were expecting of you?

      Yeah, it’s either bullshit or you never really understood a thing they were telling you.

    3. Yet another reason to be thankful I wasn’t raised a papist.

      1. And you’re not that lying piece of lefty crap M4e.

  106. This is a great follow up report. The media did get it wrong. So did I when I read this yesterday. I thought these kids were asshats, and I have seen kids do this to each other, and was pissed to see them picking on an old man. It looked like one thing, but it was actually different. This happens all the time. I read an opinion about this on Fox, but of course that needs to be checked because sometimes they say straight up stupid shit. Which is the problem. News can get it wrong. I find it refreshing that they do try and correct. Get real that it is just the Left that gets stuff wrong. Heck our President lies all the time… Starting with his Day 1 whopper. We are all adults and need to take everything with a grain of salt and shouldn’t rush to judgement. If you think the media is just all slanted to the left you should read more conservative news. Everyone is biased. But, we hope, with reason and discussion we might get to the truth, sometimes… if you think you know it all, you know very little.

  107. The Media Wildly Mischaracterized That Video of Covington Catholic Students Confronting a Native American Veteran

    More like outright, blatant propaganda. (IOW “fake but accurate”)

    1. Lied, Robby. You mean Lied.

      What an evil ideology that drives these leftists

  108. This plus the farce that was the “reporting” on Buzzfeed (“If this IS TRUE then Trump is a criminal and should be impeached!”) is so unacceptable. These fuckers are dangerous.

  109. This story is so very interesting.

  110. Another example of a lemming train of slanderous journalistic malpractice because the narrative is just too good for most outlets to check deeper.

  111. Uh, the Indigenous People’s March both had a permit to be there and had planned to end their march at the steps of the Lincoln Memorial for months. The Right to Life March was ending at the Capitol at the opposite end of the Mall over a mile away.

    Which it’s just so poetic that when two “Christian” groups get in a fight about who’s god is better and the Native Americans just get caught in the middle when they’re the only ones who are supposed to be there in the first place!

  112. Uh, the Indigenous People’s March both had a permit to be there and had planned to end their march at the steps of the Lincoln Memorial for months. The Right to Life March was ending at the Capitol at the opposite end of the Mall over a mile away.

    Which it’s just so poetic that when two “Christian” groups get in a fight about who’s god is better and the Native Americans just get caught in the middle when they’re the only ones who are supposed to be there in the first place!

    1. The Memorial is a public space. The people who are ‘supposed’ to be there is anyone who chooses to be there.

      How they behave matters. Telling people to “go back to Europe” because some them are white is racist, rude, and offensive.

      Adults should also not start shit with minors. That’s just stupid.

  113. FoxFire|1.20.19 @ 8:07PM|#

    Of?

    There’s already been scads written about all those claims and characterizations with numerous examples. Put out by those at the top of their fields of expertise.

    Try Google.

    Nardz|1.20.19 @ 8:12PM|#

    ^dude is the definition of NPC

    And he seems fond of Cenk Uger’s debate style. Wait…Cenk, is that you?

  114. OMG, Hunter Hooligan of NY Magazine must have graduated for the Jason Leopold School of Fake News!

    Earth to HH: Investigate before you run with a fake news story. That’s what investigative journalists do. Only fake news reporters print rumors & lies.

  115. It’s much worse than anyone admits. The media is waging a no-holds-barred ideological war, and it is very overt. Media narratives bear only the slightest connection to reality.

    Ask yourself why there wasn’t any national news story about THIS, or literally thousands of other similar examples of incidents that could be cited?

    To this day, there still has not been an accounting of the widespread violence against Trump supporters throughout the campaign and afterward, and the role the DNC played in that by hiring thugs to start fights. What the media did was try to blame it on the victims.

    Nathan Phillips is a serial grievance-monger and street activist, with a camera man following him around. He’s been doing this same shtick for years, probably in exchange for some firewater money.

  116. Here’s what your typical “journalist” Erik Abriss tweeted.

    “I don’t know what it says about me but I’ve truly lost the ability to articulate the hysterical rage, nausea, and heartache this makes me feel. I just want these people to die. Simple as that. Every single one of them. And their parents”

    “‘Racism is in its Boomer death throes. It will die out with this younger generation!’ Look at the shit-eating grins on all those young white slugs’ faces. Just perverse pleasure at wielding a false dominion they’ve been taught their whole life was their divine right. F?ing die.”

    1. >2,320 followers

      What a nobody.

      >This account’s Tweets are protected.

      What a faggot, also.

      1. Just a typical leftist foot soldier filled with hate. He overstepped though and had to lock his twitter up after this tweet.

        1. Fuckhead got fired after that little stunt. Hope he gets in a drunken stupor and kills himself from depression.

  117. Another example of how “the eye in the sky don’t lie,” but it will confess to anything.

  118. As more information is coming out and being acknowledged it’s fun to read responses from leftists. I just read CNN’s backtrack story and my Facebook feed. No joke, the response is, in a nutshell, “but they’re still wearing MAGA hats”.

    Facts mean nothing anymore. Leftists are no less troglodytes than the right-wingers they decried during Obama’s reign.

  119. The Left long ago gave up in any attempt to convince people with facts. They rely on manufactured events and call them cresses. Facts have no place in their discourse from the negative effects of their policies on business, immigration, the Rule of Law, the economy or anything where their are measurable metrics for their failed policies. That is why they own Murder in their cities, the failing of their Cities and States they control, and the violence of their members. I mean the Democrats are the party of Riot…

  120. The Left long ago gave up in any attempt to convince people with facts. They rely on manufactured events and call them cresses. Facts have no place in their discourse from the negative effects of their policies on business, immigration, the Rule of Law, the economy or anything where their are measurable metrics for their failed policies. That is why they own Murder in their cities, the failing of their Cities and States they control, and the violence of their members. I mean the Democrats are the party of Riot…

  121. The Left long ago gave up in any attempt to convince people with facts. They rely on manufactured events and call them cresses. Facts have no place in their discourse from the negative effects of their policies on business, immigration, the Rule of Law, the economy or anything where their are measurable metrics for their failed policies. That is why they own Murder in their cities, the failing of their Cities and States they control, and the violence of their members. I mean the Democrats are the party of Riot…

  122. Wow. Lots of people here hate the media.

    Fine I get it, the media makes mistakes, they are imperfect, and sure plenty of them share a common world view that shapes their thinking on current events. I get it. Human beings are imperfect.

    But without a media reporting on what’s going on, how are we the average people supposed to know what is going on? Without CNN, or something like it resembling a MSM, where do we get news? Fox? MSNBC? Reason? They don’t report news, they report narratives that their readers/listeners/viewers want to hear. And frequently it is also influenced by the advertisers. Less so by places like Reason, but still.

    I suppose in a post-MSM landscape that is all we will have. We won’t have truth or facts, we will have dueling narratives, and whoever has the best narratives will carry the day, regardless if the narratives actually conform to reality. I think some of the provocateurs on the right have realized this already and have weaponized distrust of the MSM into an exercise in achieving acceptance for their point of view.

    I find that all to be incredibly sad.

    1. Chemjeff, I could care less about them getting stories wrong about the president or other politicians. But they keep trying to ruin people’s lives because they don’t share their politics. They’re evil fucking people and are owed nothing but insult.

      They’re attacking kids now. They attacked some random woman for attending a Trump March that was allegedly orchestrated by super secret Russian trolls or whatever bullshit.

      The game of “pox on both your houses” does not apply in this situation

      1. There’s two components to this story.

        The first, is the initial reporting based on incomplete evidence.

        The second, is the barrage of judgmental comments directed at these teenagers based on the flawed initial reporting.

        The first component, I don’t see as deliberately trying to ruin anyone’s life. I see it as a rush to publish a story that seemed “too good to check”. That IS a problem, but it’s not a problem of character assassination per se. It’s a problem of what happens when you have ultra-fast news cycles and every media organization racing to get out on front of every story.

        The second component is problematic, of course, especially if some of those comments came from other media members. Journalists shouldn’t be joining in on social media pile-ons as a matter of journalistic ethics of course.

        1. You are desperately trying to defend the indefensible. If they are rushing a story without getting both sides or even rudimentary oversight then how exactly are they performing “journalism”? It sounds like they’re performing propaganda, which if we’re being honest is exactly what they are doing.

          They don’t like half of the country and they make that clear on a daily basis. They should be treated as any propagandist is with skepticism and general disgust for their slimy profession

          1. If they are rushing a story without getting both sides or even rudimentary oversight then how exactly are they performing “journalism”?

            They’re not. It’s info-tainment. Which is a problem. But it is a problem that transcends mere allegations of political bias. I’m not defending the rush to report without all the facts. I am trying to point out that calling it just political bias, or propaganda, is missing the point somewhat.

            1. So weird how this only happens to those that the Left disfavors

              1. Also, looking forward to your defense of Alex Jones for calling the parents of that shooting crisis actors, because that’s what the corporate press did on a national level and not a single reporter will face consequences

              2. Also, looking forward to your defense of Alex Jones for calling the parents of that shooting crisis actors, because that’s what the corporate press did on a national level and not a single reporter will face consequences

            2. They’re not. It’s info-tainment. Which is a problem. But it is a problem that transcends mere allegations of political bias. I’m not defending the rush to report without all the facts. I am trying to point out that calling it just political bias, or propaganda, is missing the point somewhat.

              I’m going to post to a dead thread in hopes that you come back to see this, because this is where you – and most people – are missing the big point.

              This isn’t “mere political bias”. It is way, way more than that.

              How can I say that?

              Forget whether they got the story wrong because they were desperate to find some way to slander their political opponents. This goes way beyond “getting the story wrong”.

              Think about what the story is for a moment. Some indian activist that nobody ever heard of and some random kid stand 3 feet apart for a long moment. Somehow several national news editors believed that this was the top national story.

              There’s the flashing red light you were looking for. An editor at CNN thought that some kid at a random protest was a huge story. So did an editor at the NYT. So did the editors at HuffPo. And the AP. CNN had this as their number one story online with an oversized photo, and on the network they ran with it all day, hammering at the racism of the GOP based on some kid standing still.

              1. So forget that they got the story completely wrong. Pretend for a moment that everything in the story was true instead of being a pack of outright lies.

                In what possible way is this a national news story. What competent editor is going to run this story in the local paper, let alone on national TV? Would that even make the school paper?

                Let’s say that instead of being accused of not doing anything newsworthy, a group of teenage boys had actually committed some crime… maybe they were caught peeing in the Lincoln Memorial. Is that national news? Does it become national news if they happen to be wearing MAGA hats? What if they were wearing Hope/Change hats?

                The revealing thing here is that all of the major (left) news organizations were unanimous. This is a really, really big story. It deserves national coverage!

                Now, it doesn’t deserve actual reporting. Nobody needs to get the other side of the story, or look at the actual video evidence that is available. Taking the word of a spokesman for an activist is good enough. But it is definitely the number one national story.

                1. That they got everything so spectacularly wrong is just icing on the cake. The actual cake is the fact that the propaganda machine is so deeply motivated to shill for their team that they all made the same ridiculous call. They all decided that some random teenager interacting passively with an unknown activist was a very important story deserving of prominent coverage.

                  No sane editor operating under anything approaching the generally accepted rules of journalism would have run that story. Because it isn’t a story. Not by any stretch of the imagination. Unless, of course, your primary motivation isn’t journalism, but is instead being the propaganda arm of a political machine.

                  That is the real forest here. Everything else is the trees. That this was covered by so many national outlets with such great prominence is clear proof that they are not operating as journalists, but are to the contrary quite corrupted by partisanship. It goes way, way beyond a simple bias.

                  It isn’t news if some unknown Hillary supporter in Omaha gets a DUI. It isn’t news if someone wearing a “her turn” T-Shirt steals packets of sugar at Starbucks. And it isn’t news if someone in a MAGA hat gets in an argument with a parking attendant.

                  Even the National Enquirer would balk at these standards.

    2. >Without CNN, or something like it resembling a MSM, where do we get news? Fox? MSNBC? Reason? They don’t report news, they report narratives that their readers/listeners/viewers want to hear.

      Say what? CNN does the same. So does virtually every other network and rag in the country. You’re in some seriously impressive denial if you think otherwise.

      1. Okay then, if that is your view, then what is the answer?

        Throw out facts and reason, and may the best narrative win?

        1. Well, you are not going to get any reason nor many facts out of these corporate narrative machines, so that’s not much of a defense for them.

          Do you seriously think these places – maybe not the loathsome Fox and MSNBC, all right, but your beloved CNN or ABC, NBC, and CBS – multi-billion dollar corporations all, are just going to send people out onto their TV to tell people the truth all willy-nilly like? Do you never watch CNN and marvel at how despite the plethora of on air personalities and hosts they employ they’re all spitting the same line throughout the day, one after the other?

          1. I’ve never forgotten NBC blowing up Chevy trucks to get the story that they wanted and that was 30 years ago. How many times do you get to lie to me before I know you’re a liar? The media lies constantly. They absolutely cannot he trusted and their business model requires that they be trustworthy. Just look at any story and ask yourself it it makes any sense, and it it doesn’t-trust your instincts.

        2. Maybe just accept that there is no such thing as a neutral and reputable source and that everything must be considered in light of a publication’s obvious political biases and that nothing should be considered definitive until you’ve reviewed the underlying evidence?

    3. Mistakes? In their view, the only “mistake” here was getting caught and being proven wrong. They don’t care about the truth, only the narrative they are able to create to further their agenda. Remember when they deceptively edited George Zimmerman’s 911 call? Just one example of thousands where they were caught. Then consider that 99% of the time, they are never caught or called out on their bias and deception. This is all they do 24/7/365, they live and breathe it.

      1. They don’t care about the truth, only the narrative they are able to create to further their agenda.

        So what exactly is “their agenda”? Let me guess, it’s “help the Democrats win”? You mean like when the NY Times broke the story about Hillary’s email server? Or when CNN dutifully covered all of Clinton’s and Obama’s scandals?

        1. You’re purposely playing games here. Yes, let’s pretend as if the NYT is not a progressive publication, because that one time they wrote about an e-mail server and then dropped the story.

        2. I would say that, by and large, their agendas are, as corporations, whatever their owners tell them their agenda is and, as individuals, to propagate their own personal worldviews. Helping Democrats win is a big part of that, yes.

          Sometimes stories that are bad for Democrats are covered, sure. A lot of journalists, even bad ones, really do believe their own shit and so can’t just not cover them, for the sake of their own self image. I also firmly believe that it’s often at least in part that they’re big stories that can’t be contained by just not talking about them. By covering them you can spin this and soft pedal that, which is sometimes more effective propagandistically than just whistling past the graveyard, pretending it didn’t happen at all when everybody else is talking about it.

        3. Huh? They get away with what they can. Not covering the email server story would be going too far and counterproductive. Best to break the story so that it is framed and introduced on their terms and timing.

          1. Well at some point one gets to a non-falsifiable tautology, and now it’s conspiracy theory territory.

            I think the NY Times broke the Hillary email story because it was genuinely newsworthy, not out of a sinister desire to frame the story on their terms.

            1. There’s nothing tautological about this. Hillary’s secret email server was a known story and a primary liability of a candidate for President during a campaign. So yes it was newsworthy and there’s nothing a media outlet could do to avoid it. Of course, they are nearly as profit-driven as they are politically biased, so that’s a factor as well. Yet the political agenda and bias is pervasive and obvious; anyone who denies it just isn’t arguing in good faith. But people who agree with the NYT will just say that the NYT is standing up for certain moral truths and so are only biased in the sense that they are right in their views about the world. On “newsworthy” stories they can’t ignore, they are biased in their details and framing. On non-newsworthy stories, such as the type Nathan Phillips has been a central character in for years, or such as this incident which was never reported anywhere, the bias is even more evident in selective coverage. And most things would fall into a grey area between newsworthy and not.

        4. Why does their ‘agenda’ even matter?

          There you go again with your insistence on everything being a thoughtcrime.

          Look at what they did. Look at what many of them continue to do, even though even the likes of you cannot defend the “mischaracterization.” Stop trying to shift the argument to something other than the facts at hand.

          But no, you’ll continue with the ‘mistake’ deflection anyway.

          Go fuck yourself. You are as much a part of the problem as they are.

          1. You want to cast blame. I am looking at the larger issue.

            I get it, you need to virtue-signal to your buddies that you are on Team Fuck The Media.

            1. No I’m on Team Jeff Is A Mendacious Twatwaffle.

    4. It is the MSM that fucked up lied their asses off to push a narrative for ideological reasons.

    5. We should be able to think better of the journalism profession. Journalists should act more like professionals so that we can think better of them.

      1. I do agree that professional journalists should not be using their personal, public Twitter accounts for expressing their personal biased views like this. It can represent a conflict of interest.

  123. The Left long ago gave up in any attempt to convince people with facts. They rely on manufactured events and call them cresses. Facts have no place in their discourse from the negative effects of their policies on business, immigration, the Rule of Law, the economy or anything where their are measurable metrics for their failed policies. That is why they own Murder in their cities, the failing of their Cities and States they control, and the violence of their members. I mean the Democrats are the party of Riot…

  124. Am I the only one around here who thinks that important decisions should be made based on facts and reason, and not based on narratives and “truthiness”?

    1. You’d never make it in journalism

      1. Maybe not. Good thing I am not a journalist then.

    2. Facts and reason have led me to the following important conclusion: the fake news media is the enemy of the people.

      1. So in your view, which news media organization is NOT the “enemy of the people”?

        1. There’s no monolithic classification of organizations. They all may or may not be “fake news” to varying degrees. But even when not fake, they all advocate a certain viewpoint — and we should get used to that and make peace with it.

          1. Yes, media outlets are all biased to a certain degree. It’s impossible for anyone to be 100% unbiased. But that is different than being “the enemy of the people”. That is Dear Leader-type language that he is using, even if he himself realizes it or not.

            1. Fake News is very harmful and dangers. It’s much worse than bias or reporting with a viewpoint — it’s fake and deceptive in intent. But oh, you don’t like the tone and language! Ok, good for you.

    3. >every single story, without fail, is always framed in the most beneficial way possible for the political left

      jeff: COME ON GUYS, LET’S BE REASONABLE HERE. SURE, THE MEDIA MAKES MISTAKES SOMETIMES OR MAYBE ALL THE TIME BUT WHY YOU GOTTA DISTRUST ‘EM SO? GEE GOLLY GOSH, YOU GUYS, WHAT ABOUT MUH FACTS?

      Are you John Kasich, by chance?

      1. WHAT ABOUT MUH FACTS

        Well, what about the facts? Do they matter?

        1. Like the fact the left-wing media fucked this up?

          1. Sure, plenty of people screwed up by rushing to go forward with this story based on incomplete and an inaccurate portrayal of events.

            Now maybe once you stop cheering over their errors, we can discuss the larger issue of how we get to a state where public discourse is fact-based rather than narrative-based.

            1. That’s the problem.

              Nobody is trying to get to any such place. They are working very, very hard to avoid the discourse aspect as well.

              Why do you think the left spent so much of the 90’s and 00’s obsessing over AM talk radio and later Fox News. Because they had successfully built an impermeable wall in the national media. Remember the journolist? Ever watch C-SPAN and see the DNC spokesperson spoon feed talking points to the media only to watch those exact words come out of the network anchor’s mouth a few hours later as if it were an original thought generated by an objective journalist?

              That’s why people like Nancy Pelosi were driving so hard to bring back the fairness doctrine in order to eliminate people like Rush Limbaugh.

              It isn’t that a bunch of independent news organizations randomly decided to have a left-leaning bias. The point is that the left has made a concerted effort to completely control all information, and they are willing to use the power of government to shut down any dissent.

              1. You seem really concerned that Trump has used rhetoric to whip up anger at the media. But that’s all it is, rhetoric.

                Meanwhile, team blue has actually introduced legislation to silence their political enemies. At the same time they have leveraged allies in other information channels to institute “voluntary” censorship regimes. All of the major players allied to place a panel of democrat/progressive activists in charge of censoring news stories that they didn’t deem worthy of promotion. This actually happened. It wasn’t just some random politico spouting off.

                Google’s chairman formed The Groundwork to tie in to the back end of social media companies and influence the 2016 election (specifically for Hillary). It was hailed in the media as proof of the Democrat’s technical superiority. Doing exactly the same things they are so worried about Trump maybe having a role in, only times a thousand. Now they are moving to ensure that this structure goes unchallenged by using the power of the state to prevent others from doing the same.

                All of the things you claim to be concerned about Trump maybe doing because he used inflammatory rhetoric have actually been attempted by democrats in recent years. This story exposes the status of that effort, because it is so over-the-top obvious that only a deep political motive could lead an editor to run such a story, and they all made the same call.

                1. Kamala Harris is one of team D’s bright stars. She has recently gained a lot of coverage for her announcement for the next presidential race. They’ve been touting her as a big contender for many months.

                  She actually used her power as a prosecutor to silence speech she disagreed with. She took people to court for running a website that allowed commercial speech she personally found offensive. She charged them with crimes. The courts very firmly slapped her down and sent her packing.

                  And she came back again, prosecuting the same people for the same non-crime that the courts had already dismissed. Because she had the infinite resources of the state behind her, she eventually silenced them, even though she never won in court.

                  Nobody on team D is worried about that. They are all in lock-step on the issue. Nobody took her to task for such abuse of power.

                  Actual use of government power to silence speech, not some politician flapping his gums. And she’s the rising star who would be president.

                  You claim to be pointing out the larger problem… that the media is about info-tainment and Trump is a facist because he tweeted an attack on the media. Those are insignificant next to an overwhelming majority of editorial boards being outright shills for one political party and a party that does not balk at actually using the power of the state to silence their enemies.

            2. “… the larger issue of how we get to a state where public discourse is fact-based rather than narrative-based.”

              (Mis)Characterizing negative feedback as “cheering over the errors” just might be a roadblock to your stated goal.

              But, is perhaps more indicative of your actual goal.

  125. “Mr. President we are not the enemy of the people. Now watch us ruin some high schoolers’ lives because he went to a pro-life march and he’s wearing a MAGA hat”

    The entire corporate press deserves nothing more than derision and insult.

    1. That’s pretty uncharitable. They clearly deserve some rope.

  126. The Left long ago gave up in any attempt to convince people with facts. They rely on manufactured events and call them cresses. Facts have no place in their discourse from the negative effects of their policies on business, immigration, the Rule of Law, the economy or anything where their are measurable metrics for their failed policies. That is why they own Murder in their cities, the failing of their Cities and States they control, and the violence of their members. I mean the Democrats are the party of Riot…

  127. The Left long ago gave up in any attempt to convince people with facts. They rely on manufactured events and call them cresses. Facts have no place in their discourse from the negative effects of their policies on business, immigration, the Rule of Law, the economy or anything where their are measurable metrics for their failed policies. That is why they own Murder in their cities, the failing of their Cities and States they control, and the violence of their members. I mean the Democrats are the party of Riot…

  128. It’s OK to punch journalists

  129. I do not expect anything good to come of this incident except that it adds another example to the roster of inaccurate media accounts, such as last week’s disinformation from former lawyer to private citizen Donald Trump.

    Otherwise, it is just another day in the cold civil war, in which excitement, feeling, identification with a group, and claims are more important than facts or law.

  130. Two items to note here. First Nathan Phillips will suffer no repercussions for his blatantly false NEWS story. Yes he caught some blow back but he will not suffer any credibility for any length of time. The second item is that the media DID NOT LEARN ANYTHING and some will to the same thing again.

  131. Two items to note here. First Nathan Phillips will suffer no repercussions for his blatantly false NEWS story. Yes he caught some blow back but he will not suffer any credibility for any length of time. The second item is that the media DID NOT LEARN ANYTHING and some will to the same thing again.

  132. On a mission to right historic wrongs, the Black Israelites came off as verbally abusive. Maybe they need Dale Carnegie classes. On a mission to inspire peace, Phillips should have realized that the kids weren’t going to “get” his coded message right after they did school cheers. On a mission to defuse the situation, Sandmann came off as impudent. Sandmann should have stepped aside as his classmates did. When he did not, Phillips should have considered the possibility that Sandmann was just a rattled and awkward kid rather than a symbol of 500 years of oppression. On a mission to save his reputation, Sandmann should have watched the videos before claiming that his classmates did not mock the Native American.

    1. “On a mission to right historic wrongs, the Black Israelites came off as verbally abusive.”

      Ha ha! ‘Came off as’? Ha ha ha! Funniest line I’ve read all year. Heyyyyy, you ain’t one of them Uncle Tomahawks, are you?

    2. “On a mission to right historic wrongs, the Black Israelites came off as verbally abusive.”

      Ha ha! ‘Came off as’? Ha ha ha! Funniest line I’ve read all year. Heyyyyy, you ain’t one of them Uncle Tomahawks, are you?

      1. Right. The negro hecklers were the most verbally abusive people I have ever heard in a public setting. They should be located and decisively dealt with.

    3. Faggots! Faggots! Faggots! Faggots!

      Don’t mind me, just righting some historic wrongs.

  133. ENB dissascoiated herself from Robby’s take on those Papist-prepschool punks.

    The gist of it seems to be I BELEIEVE THE INDIAN CHIEF, ” but they were wearing MAGA hats”, and of course, ” just look at the smirk on that kids face”.

    1. That is…well sadly, exactly what I would expect from her.

    2. This is her latest statement on the matter:

      “Lok, Indians are fucking cool, k? And, lok, MAGA hats are totally NOT cool, k? And, lok, did you, lok, SEE Phillip’s performance as an oppressed Indian in that Skrillex video? Fucking SAVAGE.”

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGpzGu9Yp6Y

    3. Wow! That’s just unbelievably unbelievable! Who could have foreseen that? What’s next, Shikha Dalmia writing a screed demanding unlimited low-skilled immigration?

    4. Don’t know what happened to “disassociated”,mus b skwerlz

    5. Shitbag defends being a shitbag. Who’s surprised that there’s a big overlap between “boofing” truthers and “collective guilt” shitbags?

    6. Shitbag defends being a shitbag. Who’s surprised that there’s a big overlap between “boofing” truthers and “collective guilt” shitbags?

    7. Shitbag defends being a shitbag. Who’s surprised that there’s a big overlap between “boofing” truthers and “collective guilt” shitbags?

  134. This Native American activist professional protestor Vietnam-veteran (lawyer?) should be investigated for a hate crime and conspiracy to instigate others to commit hate crimes through slanderous statements.

    1. His service has also been called into question.

  135. Has anyone been able to discern which media outlet first began spreading the misinformed version of this non-story?

    I would suspect it was one of the usual suspects, a hard left rag that is frothing at the mouth to hurl invective at Christians, at pro-life activists, at Trump supporters, at white people, et al.. HuffPo, Slate, CNN, Vox?

    1. Corporate media is such a human centipede at this point that it may be impossible to tell and almost certainly isn’t worth the effort.

    2. I’d vote for the Washington Post. It fits your description to a T.

  136. Man, I missed some shit while in Texas this weekend. Here’s hoping we can get to 1000 posts!

    1. Also, good post Robby.

      I can see you’re taking some real shit for this. So keep up the good work.

  137. Anna Merlan of UVA rape hoax fame is asking for the Covington yearbook so she can doxx the kids.

    She has a Masters from Columbia so I’m sure this is fine.

    1. I thought you were making that up. But you’re not! Oh, my fucking god! That discredited cunt makes the asshole who won the Pulitzer for writing the fictional tale of the child heroin addict look like H.L Mencken. HOW the FUCK does ANNA MERLAN still exist??? Why hasn’t she changed her name and moved to a remote Kibbutz? For those of you who don’t know who she is, this is all you’ll ever need to know about her:

      ‘Is the UVA Rape Story a Gigantic Hoax?’ Asks Idiot
      Anna Merlan
      12/01/14 4:00pmFiled to: CAMPUS RAPE

      Ever since journalist Sabrina Rubin Erdely published her searing Rolling Stone story about “Jackie,” a woman who was allegedly the victim of a gang rape at a frat party at the University of Virginia, there’s been an ongoing and much-needed public conversation about the way rape and sexual assault claims are dealt with on college campuses. But Robby Soave at the libertarian magazine Reason thinks we’re talking about the wrong questions entirely. Shouldn’t we be asking, he wonders, if Jackie just, like, made the whole story up?

      (More cuntish ranting follows as she makes solidifies her place in as the biggest horse’s ass in history.)

  138. Anna Merlan of UVA Rape Hoax fame is requesting a Covington yearbook so she can doxx the kids.

    She has a Masters from Columbia so I’m sure this is fine.

  139. Somehow they are still making this coverage a terrible farce. They are still trying to find bits and pieces of what the MAGA kids were doing, trying to find ANYTHING that could be offensive at all…while this black hebrew group literally shouts racist, homophobic, catholic-shit-talking, garbage in the background.

    I mean they are on CNN right now pointing out “but this white kid did a tomahawk chop!” while you can hear the black hebrew guys calling them crackers and faggots in the background…

    The absolute disconnect from reality somehow has toppled anything the trump lemmings usually display. I mean this is next level stuff.

    Can you imagine a scenario where a white group in a background was yelling “N*****, Faggot!” and they just glossed over that to show some minor offense that a black or Hispanic committed?

    This shit is exactly how white identity politics caught on, and why the crazy left will continue to lose shit for the dems.

    1. They were ok with armed men standing in front of a Philadelphia polling place on election day because they were black.

      It’s all of a piece.

  140. I guess speech is only violence when it’s used against your political allies.

  141. Nick,

    Thank you for your articulate response.

  142. Nick,

    Thank you for your articulate response.

  143. Nick,

    Thank you for your articulate response.

  144. Just in: Nathan Philips says he was Rufied and his tribe gang raped, by a Catholic high school lacrosse team.

    1. Approximately 30 years ago?

  145. Haha saw Robbys hair on tucker. it was perfect

    1. Did Tucker give it back to him when he was done with it?

  146. The Indian guy is a fucking attention whore and a liar. Accept that fact. He fucking conned the mainstream media and the Progressive Twittersphere because they didn’t give a shit whether they were being conned or not, because the truth does not matter to these people. We are experiencing mass hysteria disguised as a social justice movement. We are heading for bloody civil war without a foreseeable end.

    1. He’s a professional protester and claiming victimhood is his M.O.

    2. Yeah. The negro hecklers said that the indian drum-banger was working with them, and commented on him as he waded up into the face of that kid. Those boys were awesome. I wish I had been there to back them up.

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  148. Anyone who fell for this B.S. story should be ashamed of themselves, the amount of restraint this young man showed was unbelievable.

  149. These SJWs have not clue what is going on and how much damage they are doing.
    There is a cabal of super rich scum who have put the world into permanent debt using the central banking system and other organisations including the EU, IMF and the WTO.
    They do not want anyone watching or scrutinising their behaviour so they create a system whereby ordinary people tear at each other and blame each other using social justice as their tool.
    They pit blacks against whites, men against women.
    Time to really wake up.
    Do some research.
    Read.
    Families like the Rothchilds and individuals like Soros are destroying the world whilst enriching themselves and turning everyone into wage slaves.

    1. I’m not clear on the actual intent of the Rothchild’s and the Soros of the world, Hopefully the world will see at some point. And find that these people stepped in to fill a void that needed filling. They are what we got. Perhaps we continue to try to make the best of The Great Experiment and do so trying our best to respect other people’s rights. Let’s find the constitutional middle ground. There must be some cry all people in America will rally to? Hope coupled with action, and the restraint of this young man, is the fertile ground that may give rise to sanity, clear thinking, respectful co-existence. We have to believe that it’s still possible.

    2. I’m not clear on the actual intent of the Rothchild’s and the Soros of the world, Hopefully the world will see at some point. And find that these people stepped in to fill a void that needed filling. They are what we got. Perhaps we continue to try to make the best of The Great Experiment and do so trying our best to respect other people’s rights. Let’s find the constitutional middle ground. There must be some cry all people in America will rally to? Hope coupled with action, and the restraint of this young man, is the fertile ground that may give rise to sanity, clear thinking, respectful co-existence. We have to believe that it’s still possible.

    3. I’m not clear on the actual intent of the Rothchild’s and the Soros of the world, Hopefully the world will see at some point. And find that these people stepped in to fill a void that needed filling. They are what we got. Perhaps we continue to try to make the best of The Great Experiment and do so trying our best to respect other people’s rights. Let’s find the constitutional middle ground. There must be some cry all people in America will rally to? Hope coupled with action, and the restraint of this young man, is the fertile ground that may give rise to sanity, clear thinking, respectful co-existence. We have to believe that it’s still possible.

    4. I’m not clear on the actual intent of the Rothchild’s and the Soros of the world, Hopefully the world will see at some point. And find that these people stepped in to fill a void that needed filling. They are what we got. Perhaps we continue to try to make the best of The Great Experiment and do so trying our best to respect other people’s rights. Let’s find the constitutional middle ground. There must be some cry all people in America will rally to? Hope coupled with action, and the restraint of this young man, is the fertile ground that may give rise to sanity, clear thinking, respectful co-existence. We have to believe that it’s still possible.

    5. I’m not clear on the actual intent of the Rothchild’s and the Soros of the world, Hopefully the world will see at some point. And find that these people stepped in to fill a void that needed filling. They are what we got. Perhaps we continue to try to make the best of The Great Experiment and do so trying our best to respect other people’s rights. Let’s find the constitutional middle ground. There must be some cry all people in America will rally to? Hope coupled with action, and the restraint of this young man, is the fertile ground that may give rise to sanity, clear thinking, respectful co-existence. We have to believe that it’s still possible.

    6. I’m not clear on the actual intent of the Rothchild’s and the Soros of the world, Hopefully the world will see at some point. And find that these people stepped in to fill a void that needed filling. They are what we got. Perhaps we continue to try to make the best of The Great Experiment and do so trying our best to respect other people’s rights. Let’s find the constitutional middle ground. There must be some cry all people in America will rally to? Hope coupled with action, and the restraint of this young man, is the fertile ground that may give rise to sanity, clear thinking, respectful co-existence. We have to believe that it’s still possible.

  150. I saw the entire video, taken from the cell phone of one of the negro hecklers. The Covington boys behavior was exemplary, and every right-minded American should fight for them. The negro hecklers and the so-called “Indian” banging his drum were the problem. The indian drum-banger was working WITH the negro hecklers. Watch the whole thing. It will make you sick at your stomach. The hate pouring out of these negro hecklers is sick, and the indian is one of their “religious elders”. They were working together to strike at these boys at this event. Use this TinyURL link to see the video on the news website: https://tinyurl.com/yd5dkdmb

  151. CNN front page:

    “Twitter suspends suspicious account that helped stir controversy”

    Ya it definitely was a suspicious twitter account and not the news networks that were pinning them as guilty without any context or info. For sure. This is very convincing. We can rest easy knowing the news networks didn’t stir up a lynch mob on social media because it suited their narrative.

    Maybe it was CNN’s account they suspended?

  152. Donie O’Sullivan, “Twitter suspends account that helped ignite controversy over viral encounter”, CNN Business, 22 Jan 2019.

    Viral video sparks outrage

    Kaya Taitano was at Friday’s Indigenous Peoples March in Washington, DC, and filmed this confrontation between a teen in a Make America Great Again hat who stood directly in front of a Native American elder, who chanting and beating a drum. Other teens were taunting him and shooting video in the distance.

    The elder was identified as Nathan Phillips of the Omaha Tribe. He’s a Vietnam veteran.

    “This MAGA loser gleefully bothering a Native American protester at the Indigenous Peoples March.”

    “The amount of disrespect…. TO THIS DAY. #SMH ….”

    CNN found the account @2020fight set up Dec 2016 supposedly a woman named Talia living in California “Teacher & Advocate. Fighting for 2020.” traced to Brazil.

    It’s fake news.

    [sarcasm] Sure. It’s not factually true, but it is poeticly true!

    To the woke it is poetic truth that justifies lashing out at Trump supporters! And taking power in 2020!

    Facts are for fascists. The poetic truth is that mere “fact” is embedded in fascist!! [/sarcasm]

  153. And no one seems to be upset by the Hebrew Israelites repeatedly calling one of the students, who was black, nigger.

  154. I don’t know if anybody above mentioned it, way too many comments to read them all… But my favorite part:

    Indian says something along the lines of “We were here for thousands of years, and we never built a wall!”

    Apparently NOT realizing THAT’S THE WHOLE POINT OF BUILDING THE FUCKING WALL!

    So America doesn’t get completely overrun by foreigners in such a short span of time that it completely overwhelms and replaces the culture that exists here now! Maybe if you dumb fuck Indians hadn’t been in the stone age, and had built some nice, big walls to keep out the honkies you would still have some land left in North America!

    Keep in mind I’m saying this as somebody who has orders of magnitude more Indian blood that Liz Warren. I just thought it was hilarious how stupid it is for an Indian to say something like that! Other Indians get it, like Russell Means who said Americans should fight to retain our country so what happened to his people doesn’t happen to ours.

    1. In other news, that Indian is lucky he didn’t get the shit beat out of him. If some asshole came up and did that shit to me I’d be tempted to knock their teeth out. I probably wouldn’t, knowing the shit show it would be… But at least I tan enough to where I could probably skate in it being a “hate crime” or whatever.

      I’m just waiting for the real fireworks to start. It seems like we’re getting closer and closer to a Boston Massacre every day…

      Also, this Indian is a repeat offender. He did this EXACT same shit at least once before, and then bitched about how people he harassed were racists. If he’s not a paid demonstrator/provocateur, he’s doing the exact same thing those people do and just not getting paid to do it.

    2. In other news, that Indian is lucky he didn’t get the shit beat out of him. If some asshole came up and did that shit to me I’d be tempted to knock their teeth out. I probably wouldn’t, knowing the shit show it would be… But at least I tan enough to where I could probably skate in it being a “hate crime” or whatever.

      I’m just waiting for the real fireworks to start. It seems like we’re getting closer and closer to a Boston Massacre every day…

      Also, this Indian is a repeat offender. He did this EXACT same shit at least once before, and then bitched about how people he harassed were racists. If he’s not a paid demonstrator/provocateur, he’s doing the exact same thing those people do and just not getting paid to do it.

    3. Native Americans also had no guns to fire at Christopher Columbus

      1. News Flash, go and READ your history. No, Native Americans did not have guns to fire at Columbus… not only that, they never saw him. =He never set foot on the North American Continent……

        And the Indians DID have their weapons, which they used at times excessively.

    4. Indian says something along the lines of “We were here for thousands of years, and we never built a wall!”

      yeah, that one was cute…..
      True they never built a wall. But whenever some folks showed up on THEIR turn they did not like being there, they just came in to their settlements or camps by night ahd killed the men, took their women and children as slaves, and stole all their stuff. Why bother with a wall when you can let anyone come in, then just take whatever/whoever they brought along on the trip? Hey, free stuff, and slave labour? What’s so bad about that?

      Which is why WE ought build the wall. Most of the folks sneaking in to our country are coming in steal OUR stuff and make US work for them…. welfare, food, tax money to support them, all that sort of stuff.

      1. All true. I’m part Indian on both sides, but still mostly honky. I’ve never felt bad about taking the Americas from the Indians. They were shitty people, just like everybody else. They just lost their wars.

        That’s the thing though, if we don’t build a wall… I’m pretty sure we’re going to eventually have to go old school like the Indians did, AKA violence trying to keep our land. The newcomers certainly don’t care about playing fair, or being nice to current Americans, respecting our traditions, laws, etc… And eventually Americans are going to get so sick of it shit is gonna get real.

  155. The BHI are like KKK on steroids except they’re black racists (and can get violent) – which seems to be tolerated for some reason. When first starting to work in DC back in 2004 they’d preach at a metro stop where I’d board a train, and always preach about the White Devil and Satan was white, etc etc. And very vulgar. They seemed to be the ones igniting the whole situation in that video, but conveniently it was cut out and the media swallowed it right up.

    1. No such thing as black racists. It’s not possible because they don’t have any power over individual white people. So they are excused no matter what they say or do, no matter how bigoted and reprehensible.

      Nevermind that just because most individual white people hold no actual power either, that doesn’t excuse white people from being racists. Just black people.

  156. As a Native American, African American, European mixed-race mother, I say I am so proud of this young man! He held himself above the fervor and despite being subjected to displays of extremist hatred by the first group of protestors and feeling overwhelmed with confusion by the strange behavior of the second, he remained calm and strong. He is to be commended, not condemned. I salute you young man!. I am glad you share the world with my beautiful children. Continue on your way through life as you were before this time. Best wishes of peace and comfort to you and your family. ESW

    1. +1, positivity

  157. Has anyone identified the black racists threatening the kids?

    1. Black Hebrew Israelites

    2. Black Hebrew Israelites

  158. Social media is the new mob…complete with digital pitchforks….

  159. Social media is the new mob…complete with digital pitchforks….

    1. This is correct. That guy on YouTube who outs the stolen valor weirdos did a video where he shows Nathan’s military records. Turns out Phillips was a refrigerator tech in Nebraska, not a ‘Recon Ranger’.

  160. This is Reason. I’m surprised they use every awful word hurled at these boys, but decided that the “n-word” requires special handling.

  161. The vids show with no doubt it was the boys who were targeted with harassment prob merely bc they wore MAGA hats and happened to be white. This is blatant media-supported race and political intimidation. The media is responsible for it. The boys’ school owes them a big apology. I understand they have got lawyers and are starting to sue major media outlets. Good. I hope they collect a fortune from these spreaders of fake/false news. Further, bizarrely, self-hating whites (liberals) are still insisting it was the boys’ fault. How nuts can you get! They fear the incident will Xlate to votes for DJT at the next election. Well it may not have but NOW it sure will, all b/c the libbies, H-wood types, and MSM won’t admit what it obvious and in front of all to see. Liberals are their own worst enemies.

    I don’t know if DJT will have a second term. But no matter, the next POTUS will be a Republican. The media and the liberals will not be allowed to forget this incident or just “move on” past it. Oh no. The sane among us are going to smear it into their faces at every turn. That kid’ll be the poster boy for the GOP in 2020. Mark my words, that fresh-faced young man who embodies an ideal of pure young manhood will surely rise as a representative of what we all are fighting for, and against the insane liberals. Dang I think he has a future in politics if he wants one.

    The libbies and media freaks have done themselves in this time, and good.

    1. I truly don’t understand the people who are sticking to their guns on this one. I can only surmise they either didn’t watch the video or are dishonest. That is the only explanation my feeble mind can come up with.

  162. Four Massive Media Hoaxes in First Three Weeks of 2019

    1. Media Lie About Conservatives Outraged Over Dancing Video

    2. Media Spread Homophobic Conspiracy Theory About Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC)

    3. Media Lie About Trump Suborning Perjury

    4. Media Launch Online Hate Crime Against Covington High School Kids

  163. Glenn Greenwald’s article the other day was truly stunning. Why hasn’t there been more discussion of this?

    Beyond BuzzFeed: The 10 Worst, Most Embarrassing U.S. Media Failures on the Trump-Russia Story

  164. A wall did not save Machu Picchu

    1. A wall also kept Constantinople preserved for a millennium. What’s your point?

    2. Machu Picchu was not conquered by an invading army, either. If it’s me, and I’ve got my city built at 16,000 feet above sea level…if somebody convinces an army to march up to my door, I’m saying “Wow. That’s impressive. You win, come on in.”

      Clearly, their troops are in such good shape, and so well-disciplined you don’t want to fight them. But also, they are clearly quite stupid. I mean, if a guy plops down in the middle of the Rub’ al Khali and declares it to be Sandistan…is anybody going to go out there and “conquer” him?

      Machu Picchu was abandoned when the Incan Empire fell. (It wasn’t an organically existing city before 1450), and only some folks in the valley below even knew it was there, a situation that held for several hundred years, till 1911.

  165. I see three problems with this nonviolent confrontation, Robby. 1)Black racists on one side. 2)White (possibly racists) Drumpf supporters that get easily worked up when somebody yells at them from the pulpit. 3)Natives that had no business getting involved in the first place. They all lose on this one!

    1. No, the HS kids were just waiting for their buses, minding their own business. They did nothing wrong.

      The adults of both the BHI and NA groups slurred them and tried to intimidate the HS kids. Their response was admirably restrained.

      1. “Minding their own business” up until they weren’t! So you believe that the way you “deescalate a bad situation” as Mr. Sandmann described is by asking their teachers for permission to start ranting and raving back at the black racists, having one of the young delinquents take of his shirt and start getting his peers worked up and then Mr. Sandmann staring down another individual six inches from their face? Ok, that sounds like a good way to deescalate a bad situation!

        1. Generally speaking I tend to begin my criticism with the people who created the bad situation.

          But apparently you blame the children first.

          But, as you say, nobody is perfect.

          1. @ThmasD “But apparently you blame the children first.”

            Sorry but no. I believe my comment went a little like this: 1) Black racists on one side. You are correct though, “nobody is perfect” but we should really strive to be!

        2. “Mr. Sandmann staring down another individual six inches from their face”

          How, I wonder, does he think that Philllips came to be six inches from Sandmann? Or, if Philllips had punched Sandmann in the face, would Wearnotperfect be blaming Sandmann for refusing to move his face out of Phillips’s way?

          1. The Left has suddenly discovered a belief in the sanctity and authority of age.

            I predict that it will be very short-lived.

          2. The Left has suddenly discovered a belief in the sanctity and authority of age.

            I predict that it will be very short-lived.

            1. Coincidence. They just happen to have been trying on “respect for Chinese ancestor veneration” last week…and now they’re done.

        3. Yeah, I think that school chants in response to racist harassment is one of the best possible responses. Idiot.

          I also think that HS kids have a right to stand still and smile awkwardly while a group of adults attempt intimidate them, instigate an incident and bang a drum inches from their faces.

          Who was the aggressor, the adult(s) who approached a teen in a public space and banged a drum inches from his face or the teen who stood still and smiled at them?

          I didn’t even vote for Trump but this harassment of the kids and calling them “delinquents” is 100% the product of hatred toward Trump, pro-lifers, catholic schools and white males.

  166. This is turning out so great. Progressives made monstrous asses of themselves of themselves. Again. They lost all credibility. Again. And the best part is how so many of them keep doubling down on this one, ensuring further humiliation. God must be a Donald Trump fan.

  167. Mirror of Shar Yaqataz Banyamyan facebook video..
    The Free Thought Project reviewed a much longer video of this situation and it paints a far different picture than what the media is telling you. Prior to the children interacting with the Native American protests, they were subject to disgusting racist threats from a small group of Black Hebrew Israelites near the Lincoln Memorial. The BHI was seen on camera hurling insults at the children, calling them crackers, faggots, pedophiles, and peckerwoods. They are even seen at the 37 minute mark insulting the Native Americans for talking to these kids by calling them “Uncle Tom(ahawks.)”

    At one point in the video, the BHI protesters tell a black student in the group that his white friends are going to “harvest his organs.” The hateful slurs came to a head when the BHI protesters?who are outspoken for their anti-LGBTQ stance?yelled that “you give faggots rights.”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3EC1_gcr34

  168. Mirror of Shar Yaqataz Banyamyan facebook video..
    The Free Thought Project reviewed a much longer video of this situation and it paints a far different picture than what the media is telling you. Prior to the children interacting with the Native American protests, they were subject to disgusting racist threats from a small group of Black Hebrew Israelites near the Lincoln Memorial. The BHI was seen on camera hurling insults at the children, calling them crackers, faggots, pedophiles, and peckerwoods. They are even seen at the 37 minute mark insulting the Native Americans for talking to these kids by calling them “Uncle Tom(ahawks.)”

    At one point in the video, the BHI protesters tell a black student in the group that his white friends are going to “harvest his organs.” The hateful slurs came to a head when the BHI protesters?who are outspoken for their anti-LGBTQ stance?yelled that “you give faggots rights.”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3EC1_gcr34

  169. Catholic schools still turn out some marvelous students. There are college students who couldn’t turn out such a thoughtful and respectful written response…

    1. There are employees of marketing and reputation management firms who probably could, though.

      Just sayin’…

  170. I now issue a challenge to all the protestors that instigated this mess to find even ONE of the high school age kids THEY know and relate to who is half as articulate AND self-controlled as this young man has demonstrated heis, both during the confrontation and in his After Action Report. He writes better than most of today’s journalists!!! by a Kentucky mile…. do even that area’s public schools produce young men of anywhere near that quality? He carefully constrained himself with the intention of DEescalating the mess in which he found himself. How many of the young folks the aggravators know would have responded by returning insults, throwing a rock, or a punch? I’ll wager at least 95% of the males in high school age, and at least 80% of the females.

    THIS kid is a good example of something we need a whole lot MORE of in this country.

  171. I now issue a challenge to all the protestors that instigated this mess to find even ONE of the high school age kids THEY know and relate to who is half as articulate AND self-controlled as this young man has demonstrated heis, both during the confrontation and in his After Action Report. He writes better than most of today’s journalists!!! by a Kentucky mile…. do even that area’s public schools produce young men of anywhere near that quality? He carefully constrained himself with the intention of DEescalating the mess in which he found himself. How many of the young folks the aggravators know would have responded by returning insults, throwing a rock, or a punch? I’ll wager at least 95% of the males in high school age, and at least 80% of the females.

    THIS kid is a good example of something we need a whole lot MORE of in this country.

  172. I now issue a challenge to all the protestors that instigated this mess to find even ONE of the high school age kids THEY know and relate to who is half as articulate AND self-controlled as this young man has demonstrated heis, both during the confrontation and in his After Action Report. He writes better than most of today’s journalists!!! by a Kentucky mile…. do even that area’s public schools produce young men of anywhere near that quality? He carefully constrained himself with the intention of DEescalating the mess in which he found himself. How many of the young folks the aggravators know would have responded by returning insults, throwing a rock, or a punch? I’ll wager at least 95% of the males in high school age, and at least 80% of the females. A

    THIS kid is a good example of something we need a whole lot MORE of in this country.

  173. I now issue a challenge to all the protestors that instigated this mess to find even ONE of the high school age kids THEY know and relate to who is half as articulate AND self-controlled as this young man has demonstrated heis, both during the confrontation and in his After Action Report. He writes better than most of today’s journalists!!! by a Kentucky mile…. do even that area’s public schools produce young men of anywhere near that quality? He carefully constrained himself with the intention of DEescalating the mess in which he found himself. How many of the young folks the aggravators know would have responded by returning insults, throwing a rock, or a punch? I’ll wager at least 95% of the males in high school age, and at least 80% of the females. A

    THIS kid is a good example of something we need a whole lot MORE of in this country.

    1. hilarious…..
      Although you did one word right: “self-controlled”, but only if it is an adjective modifying ‘smirk’, a smirk that was an embarrassment to Catholics and people of faith everywhere. Since when is not “throwing a rock, or a punch” something to be proud of when you have not been threatened? You’re as immature as he is.

      Oh, and you really think he wrote his ‘After Action Report’ by himself?
      As opposed to by the PR firm he hired (run by a Mitch McConnell flunkie)?

      1. You see a smirk because you choose to see a smirk. Just as you choose not to see someone banging a drum for 2 minutes an inch away from someone else’s face as not threatening. If it were 2 toddlers, the toddler banging the drum would be the one that gets in trouble. In this case, the toddler banging the drum was celebrated as a hero.

      2. “The Smirk Heard ‘Round the World!”

        That’s a real common SJW trait: The sometimes complete lack of self-awareness.

        IOW, you are incapable of realizing how insane you sound, ranting about the expression on a teenage boys’ face.

        Voltaire should have amended his prayer to “…make my enemies ridiculous…but stop when I’m dead, okay?”

    2. Somebody needs to find Refrigeration Ranger Phillips in a public space, hold a crucifix inches from his face and loudly pray for his redemption.

      Then see how he responds.

  174. So, like, now that it’s established that the real assholes are everyone who urged people to punch those kids, is it ok to urge people to punch THEM?

    Asking for a friend.

    1. It’s not ok, but it’s understandable.

  175. So since the actual bigots have NOT had their social media accounts deleted for racist and anti-religion posts, or for inciting riot, can we have the DOJ go after all social media companies as unregistered lobbyists for the socialist party?

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  177. This is, I believe, a profound moment in media history. And it’s such a nothing burger in terms of what actually happened. It’s what people were projecting onto the situation that makes it so profound. There are still “journalists” out there who are doubling down on the original narrative. Huffington Post and GQ are just 2 examples. Not that I expected more from those organizations. I just can’t wrap my mind around how there is a video that provides a full context, and still people cling to lies about it. Unbelievable.

  178. No, their actions were on tape doing the hawk chop to the Native Americans, agreeing the N word was acceptable to reference towards a black student, made monkey sounds and mocked the only people there who were saying bad things about everyone, screamed it wasn’t rape if she liked it, and cat calling women walking by. Their youtube page showing black face and white power signs says a lot as well.

    1. Your well established credibility makes everything you say quite believable.

      Thanks! “MattLafram”

  179. What a bunch of fucking morons you people are. A MAGA hat kid being racist and obnoxious? How is that possible!??!

    People seeing what they want to see based on which TEAM they’re on. All when there’s clear video evidence of what happened. Are you seeing the same videos I am? Or does TEAM actually physically alter your eyes?

    1. We’re looking at behavior on video.

      You are looking at the MAGA hat and letting your fevered imagination run wild. You are the jury in “To Kill a Mockingbird.”

      1. It’s like we need to reenact the courtroom speech from A Time to Kil. But, instead of McConaughey’s character saying “now imagine she is white,” he needs to say “now imagine it’s a Hope and Change hat.”

        Maybe then the bulb would light.

        1. I find your optimism to be disturbing.

    2. The single clearest case of projection that I have ever seen. This should be in a textbook.

  180. “Phillips” who’s real name is not Phillips, gave the impression that he was a Vietnam vet. Truth is he never served in Vietnam. Was a refrigerator mechanic Stateside in El Toro who went AWOL 3 times and finally discharged in ’76. Never signed up for the dental plan.

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  182. Even the new york times is basically admitting that they got this story wrong. But not with an erratum, as that would be too obvious that they were willingly part of the original pile-on, rather they have had a series of articles in which they do a bit of navel gazing sheepishly admitting that ‘some'( other people, other media) may have rushed to judgement, but that there is more to the story.
    Yep, there is often more to the story than the selectively edited video clip from one angle.

  183. Even the new york times is basically admitting that they got this story wrong. But not with an erratum, as that would be too obvious that they were willingly part of the original pile-on, rather they have had a series of articles in which they do a bit of navel gazing sheepishly admitting that ‘some'( other people, other media) may have rushed to judgement, but that there is more to the story.
    Yep, there is often more to the story than the selectively edited video clip from one angle.

  184. The group of Black Hebrews were the instigators throughout the whole video! Why isn’t anyone going after them? They were making threats!!! As the wise old saying goes, “EMPTY BARRELS MAKE THE MOST NOISE”.

    1. @Libertygirl777
      I agree, but to answer you question, “Why isn’t anyone going after them?”, the Black Hebrew racists were not invading anyone’s personal space, at least from what I can see from the available videos.

  185. Thanks for this article and taking the time to research. Speaking as someone long on the left, we really f’d up this time. My apologies to what’s his name, whose name we should all now forget and let go back to high school in peace.

    1. +1, wise suggestion

  186. You just mischaracterized it yourself
    The students were just waiting for their ride.
    They didnt confront anyone.
    They were approached by two other groups who were hostile towards them.

  187. Just curious what is the most commented on story at Reason?

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