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Sen. Warren Has a Plan to Socialize Pharmaceuticals: Reason Roundup

Plus: Tumblr porn filters catch company's own examples of permitted content and how the GOP learned to love bailouts.

Elizabeth Nolan Brown | 12.18.2018 9:30 AM

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Big Gov wants a piece of Big Pharma. Are you ready for government-branded blood pressure meds, birth control pills, and other common pharmaceuticals? Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) is proposing the creation of a massive new federal project to manufacture medications. Under Warren's plan, the federal government would own and operate its own pharmaceutical company and mass-produce generic drugs.

In a statement, Warren insisted that she didn't want a government takeover of drug markets, just "to fix them." Her bill would create a new Office of Drug Manufacturing and order it to produce at least 15 different types of generic medications (drugs for which the patent has run out) in its first year.

But generic medications aren't generally the ones causing money troubles. Since they're not limited to patent-holding pharmaceutical companies, competition keeps prices low. Some stores even fill very common generic prescriptions for free, as an enticement to get customers to make other purchases there.

"The bulk of the country's drug-cost problem rests with high-priced branded medicines," notes Politico.

Which means Warren's proposal amounts to a huge new government undertaking that doesn't remotely accomplish what it purports to, leaving the initial problem intact while potentially erecting new access barriers and other unintended consequences. In addition to the huge cost of a federally funded pharma company, cutting into the money that private drug companies can make off generics could make it harder for them to invest in new research and bring more experimental drugs to market.

"When generics provide Americans with nine out of 10 of their prescriptions at only 23 percent of total spending on drugs, it is hard to fathom why anyone would call this system broken or insist that the government commandeer the business of developing, manufacturing and distributing these medicines," the Association for Accessible Medicines, which represents generic drug manufacturers, told Politico.

At best it's "an unrealistic distraction from policies that would meaningfully reduce drug prices," the group added.

Warren's so-called Affordable Drug Manufacturing Act "is unlikely to pass the Republican-led Senate," write Politico's Alex Thompson and Sarah Karlin-Smith. "But it signals that a future Warren White House could try to radically revamp the federal government's role in the pharmaceutical market in order try to lower prices."

While Warren's plan is uniquely ambitious, a lot of Democratic presidential hopefuls are proposing ways for government to meddle more in medicine markets. For instance, Sens. Kamala Harris (Calif.), Amy Klobuchar (Minn.), and Jeff Merkley (Ore.) introduced legislation last week that would give the feds power to forbid drug companies from raising prices. In the simplistic, Pollyanna-ish, and authoritarian accounting of many Democrats, drug companies prohibited from raising prices will simply keep making medications and selling them at or below cost rather than stopping production of products that they've been barred from profiting from.

FREE MINDS

Tumblr's porn ban took effect yesterday. The company offered examples of nudity that won't be affected by the ban, including images of "female-presenting nipples" used in a medical context, artwork, or political speech. The site's own anti-porn filters flagged their examples of permitted imagery as being forbidden.

FREE MARKETS

How Republicans learned to love government bailouts:

My fellow Republicans used to oppose bailouts. Now, they euphemistically call them "market facilitation payments." @POTUS's big-government trade policy hurt many farmers and ranchers, and he's responding with even bigger government. https://t.co/rwXrpaEZ28

— Justin Amash (@justinamash) December 18, 2018

QUICK HITS

• A bright spot for sentencing and prison reform, not so much for stodgy old crime-panic perpetuators:

The First Step Act hit 81 votes for cloture in the U.S. Senate while Tom Cotton watches by himself, pretending he's busy on his cell phone. pic.twitter.com/G9B57l6nG1

— Lauren Krisai (@laurenkrisai) December 17, 2018

• But Cotton is now offering a slew of amendments that could doom the bill.

• Behold, gun buybacks in action:

One woman shows us the 9MM she is turning in for the Baltimore City Gun Buy Back program. But she says she is using the cash to get a bigger weapon! Story on FOX45 at 4pm. pic.twitter.com/LlmCbezpU7

— Kathleen Cairns (@CairnsKcairns) December 17, 2018

• New York's ban on nunchucks has been declared unconstitutional.

• ICYMI: Yesterday was International Day to End Violence Against Sex Workers. Coyote Rhode Island prepared this video to memorialize sex workers lost to violence in the past year.

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• Tune in to Jack Murphy's podcast this week to catch our far-reaching conversation about sex, social media, women's agency, my libertarian origin story, and more:

Me and @ENBrown dig deep into the myths around human trafficking, sex work, civil liberties, and the right to live your life how you see fit.

We also answer the burning question…where did the slut walks go?

Feminism, freedom, libertarianism and more:https://t.co/YwHYDoXzB8

— Jack Murphy (@jackmurphylive) December 17, 2018

• The Bitcoin bubble has burst, but that doesn't mean Bitcoin is dead.

• New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo now supports marijuana legalization. It's about time, writes Reason's Jacob Sullum.

• Cato calls for a war on drug-related deaths:

"…harm reduction seeks to avoid measures that exacerbate the harms the black market already inflicts on nonmedical users…Harm Reduction: Shifting from a War on Drugs to a War on Drug-Related Deaths https://t.co/HHOhJWrUjD via @CatoInstitute

— Jeffrey A. Singer (@dr4liberty) December 14, 2018

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   7 years ago

    Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) is proposing the creation of a massive new federal project to manufacture medications.

    That's presidential.

    1. Rufus The Monocled   7 years ago

      Hello.

      "In a statement, Warren insisted that she didn't want a government takeover of drug markets, just "to fix them."

      The arrogance. The hubris. The red blooded guts.

      The certifiable.

      1. Tom Bombadil   7 years ago

        Red woman speak with forked tongue.

        1. Chipper Morning Baculum   7 years ago

          You don't think she is genuine? I do. And that's what makes her so scary.

    2. bevis the lumberjack   7 years ago

      Is she even trying to pretend there's some benefit to this proposal? Or is this just a DO SOMETHING

      1. Longtorso, Johnny   7 years ago

        Just buying the votes of the stupid.

      2. Enjoy Every Sandwich   7 years ago

        I suspect it is just a stepping stone to a larger takeover. To her, the Road To Serfdom is the Yellow Brick Road.

        1. Leo Kovalensky II   7 years ago

          "Follow, follow, follow, follow, follow the yellow brick road!"

        2. NealAppeal   7 years ago

          Or she is looking to help Big Pharma by putting the generics producers out of business...if government produces the 15 highest demand generics that would really put a dent in generic pharma's business leaving them unlikely to profit off the remaining low demand generics.

    3. Rat on a train   7 years ago

      Wasn't Tony asking for someone to name a Democrat that has advocated communism?

      1. BestUsedCarSales   7 years ago

        We can just redefine communism until this doesn't fit.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   7 years ago

    The site's own anti-porn filters flagged their examples of permitted imagery as being forbidden.

    Very instructive.

    1. Mickey Rat   7 years ago

      They really have no idea what they are doing, do they?

      1. Fist of Etiquette   7 years ago

        Betamax and HD-DVD went tits up because porn chose the other. That's what should be instructive to platforms. Tumblr may be just happy to let its product die.

        1. damikesc   7 years ago

          Tumblr might be happy. Society, at large, would undoubtedly be happy if Tumblr ceased to exist.

          I'd call it a dumpster fire except that's insulting to dumpster fires.

          1. Crusty Juggler   7 years ago

            Did you spend a lot of time on Tumblr?

            1. BestUsedCarSales   7 years ago

              I did. Sadly, on the porn parts. RIP.

            2. damikesc   7 years ago

              If you want the best really out-there SJW takes, there is no place better than Tumblr.

              Where you can let your freak flag fly...as long as you don't potentially offend anybody, anywhere, ever.

    2. Anomalous   7 years ago

      RIP Tumblr.

      1. Cy   7 years ago

        Fuck that. I hope those idiots never got another job in tech.

    3. Tom Bombadil   7 years ago

      They'll know it when they see it.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   7 years ago

    New York's ban on nunchucks has been declared unconstitutional.

    It's in the Constitution that every citizen has the right to hit himself in the nuts with a weapon that can be defended with a sofa cushion.

    1. perlchpr   7 years ago

      A New York court ruled in favor of 2A! This is... unprecedented.

    2. Antilles   7 years ago

      Wonder what kind of precedent this will set for California--where almost every weapon but guns are illegal. We're not allowed to have nunchucks, brass knuckles, blow darts, or switch blades. Hope someone challenges that.

      1. MatthewSlyfield   7 years ago

        Since when are guns legal in California?

      2. Tom Bombadil   7 years ago

        Pointed sticks?

      3. Chipper Morning Baculum   7 years ago

        Nuncucks are more likely to hurt the wielder of said nunchucks than a potential victim. Brass knuckles are just thick rings. A blowdart is literally just a tube.

        1. Anomalous   7 years ago

          Nuncucks?

          1. $park? The Misanthrope   7 years ago

            The most dangerous kind of cucks.

            1. TuIpa (Shevo thinks I'm HIHN!)   7 years ago

              No one cares about your nickname.

          2. Dillinger   7 years ago

            porn screenplay in there.

          3. damikesc   7 years ago

            Can nuns be cucks?

            *runs to Pornhub*

            Ah, they can.

      4. The Heresiarch   7 years ago

        Don't forget ninja stars. When I was a kid I have fond memories of buying ninja stars, butterfly knives, and M-80s and smuggling them from Mexico to the Land of the Free. Oh, they also let us drink in the bars if we showed them our high school IDs.

  4. Longtorso, Johnny   7 years ago

    'Google Isn't the Company That We Should Have Handed the Web Over To'
    Google has deployed proprietary technology and left the rest of the industry playing catch-up, writes Peter. The company has "tried to push the Web into a Google-controlled proprietary direction to improve the performance of Google's online services when used in conjunction with Google's browser, consolidating Google's market positioning and putting everyone else at a disadvantage."

    YouTube has been a particular source of problems. One example Peter provides has to do with a hidden, empty HTML element that was added to each YouTube video to disable Edge's hardware accelerated video decoding: "For no obvious reason, Google changed YouTube to add a hidden, empty HTML element that overlaid each video. This element disabled Edge's fastest, most efficient hardware accelerated video decoding. It hurt Edge's battery-life performance and took it below Chrome's. The change didn't improve Chrome's performance and didn't appear to serve any real purpose; it just hurt Edge, allowing Google to claim that Chrome's battery life was actually superior to Edge's. Microsoft asked Google if the company could remove the element, to no avail."

    1. Longtorso, Johnny   7 years ago

      Both they and the government want a cashless society, for you "but they're private enterprises so let them turn the country into Venezuela" types:

      VISA/MASTERCARD AND THE ASSAULT ON CIVIL RIGHTS
      Robert Spencer, whose jihadwatch.org is one of the indispensable sites for understanding the intentions and the threat of Islamic terrorism, has been shut down from receiving supporters' donations for several weeks now, and is forced to try to keep jihadwatch going on a shoestring while Visa/Mastercard imperiously ignores demand letters and threats of court action from his attorneys. The anti Semitic Nation of Islam's credit card donations are processed; the anti Islamist jihadwatch's are not.

      1. damikesc   7 years ago

        If you want access to our banking system, you have to play by rules. If Visa and MC won't do so, then they should be shut out of the market entirely.

    2. perlchpr   7 years ago

      OK, so, that was shitty of Google, but shockingly incompetent even for Microsoft to not, y'know, just reprogram to recognize and ignore that tag.

      1. Longtobefree   7 years ago

        The eternal choice;
        Fix the problem, or fix the blame.

  5. Bee Tagger   7 years ago

    The Bitcoin bubble has burst, but that doesn't mean Bitcoin is dead.

    hopefully the internet archive archives it before it dies

    1. Mickey Rat   7 years ago

      Tulips are not dead either, but still...

      1. Tom Bombadil   7 years ago

        How many Dutch does it take to change a tulip bulb?

        1. Leo Kovalensky II   7 years ago

          2. 1 to change the bulb, and 1 to figure out how to split the bill?

        2. Dillinger   7 years ago

          stand around looking hot until someone else does it.

    2. Juice   7 years ago

      A bitcoin bubble has burst, but it's still over $3000 per coin. I laughed when people told me it would be $1000 a coin one day. Now that's a doom and gloom number, but it's still ridiculously high.

  6. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   7 years ago

    Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) is proposing the creation of a massive new federal project to manufacture medications.

    As a libertarian, I'm not sure I can support this specific part of her platform. However if the 2020 election is between Warren and Drumpf, of course I'll be voting for Warren since she's so much better on immigration and abortion, the defining issues for us Koch / Reason libertarians.

    Plus she's a woman of color, as she definitively proved using science. It's about time this country had a WOC President.

    1. Tom Bombadil   7 years ago

      WOK, WOKE, WHATEVER.

      1. Ron   7 years ago

        WOC, woman of color?

        1. perlchpr   7 years ago

          The proper term is "Womyn of Color", thankyouverymuch.

    2. Longtobefree   7 years ago

      True; and the color clearly is red.

    3. Anomalous   7 years ago

      I'm sure she wouldn't do this all at once. She would phase it in, over a period of, say, five years.

      1. perlchpr   7 years ago

        She has a plan.

        1. Dillinger   7 years ago

          Woman of Cylon

    4. 3rd Batt Ranger   7 years ago

      Your comment seems to imply many of us that consider ourselves conservative wish to ban the procedure that allows progressives to off your own next generations, we don't. Have at it, keep up the good work.

  7. Fist of Etiquette   7 years ago

    New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo now supports marijuana legalization.

    Warren's bureaucrats can grow it for him.

    1. CDRSchafer   7 years ago

      And a dime bag will only cost you 50 cent.

  8. Rufus The Monocled   7 years ago

    I'm guessing Baltimore police understands the difference between guns owned by law-abiding citizens and those owned by criminals and gangs who use them unlawfully. Correct?

    So what exactly does their buy-back scheme seek to achieve?

    1. Longtorso, Johnny   7 years ago

      You cannot buy BACK that which you never owned.

    2. Leo Kovalensky II   7 years ago

      Wokeness.

    3. perlchpr   7 years ago

      So what exactly does their buy-back scheme seek to achieve?

      Publicity.

      1. Longtobefree   7 years ago

        Major business climate improvement.
        Each of these publicity stunts leads to a major price increase in old, ineffective, even unworkable firearms. They go from worthless to just a few bucks under the buyback price. Entrepreneurs buy the junk by the trunkload, and turn them in at a profit.
        It is great. The crooks get some legitimate revenue for a change, the cops get publicity (and probably illegal surveillance), and metal recyclers get a boost.

  9. Bee Tagger   7 years ago

    The site's own anti-porn filters flagged their examples of permitted imagery as being forbidden.

    Pictures of hands being tied also getting flagged.

    1. SIV   7 years ago

      Tumblr's not liking images of women wearing one-piece combination/all-in-one foundation garments.

      1. Chipper Morning Baculum   7 years ago

        And by women, do you mean hens?

  10. Longtorso, Johnny   7 years ago

    'The French Obama'! Does this pro-Macron politician's spin on public backlash to progressive policies sound familiar?
    For those keeping track at home, Macron's majority leader in the House today was asked why the government is unpopular, and he responded "we were probably too intelligent, too subtle".

    So that's how good Macron's people are at politics.

    ? PEG (@pegobry) December 17, 2018

  11. Rufus The Monocled   7 years ago

    Elizabeth Warren knows how to 'fix' pharma.

    Maybe she should get Ocasio-Cortez to head that agency up.

    What can possibly go wrong?

    1. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   7 years ago

      No, we need Ocasio-Cortez in the House where she can lead the effort to #AbolishICE.

      1. Zeb   7 years ago

        Seriously, dude, find a new shtick.

        1. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   7 years ago

          I'm not a "dude." I'm non-binary.

          And I will never stop advocating the Koch / Reason / Shikha Dalmia open borders agenda. Because deporting people is literally comparable to enforcing fugitive slave laws. When I'm older, I want to look back at this tragic chapter in American history and know I did everything I could to #Resist this white nationalist Russian puppet regime.

          1. Zeb   7 years ago

            Yawn. I think "dude" is pretty much gender neutral at this point.

      2. Ryan (formally HFTO)   7 years ago

        Never stop

  12. Longtorso, Johnny   7 years ago

    'It is to laugh!' Jonathan Gruber's Obamacare spin just got even MORE pathetic & desperate
    Gruber- no matter what I said about the mandate being essential to the law? pic.twitter.com/Inm5ImJqbb

    ? Rich Weinstein (@phillyrich1) December 16, 2018

    What Gruber was saying about the mandate being severable before it was ruled severablehttps://t.co/dVLu1EQFok

    ? Rich Weinstein (@phillyrich1) December 16, 2018

    1. Leo Kovalensky II   7 years ago

      Gruber is really grasping for straws here:

      "The Supreme Court clearly does not represent the constitutional expertise of the broad Senate constitutional experts..."

      "So we have seen empirically that the law -- that it is severable... Congress in its wisdom has declared that it's severable."

      Sorry Gruber. That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

      1. Tom Bombadil   7 years ago

        Gruber sounds a lot like OBL at his best.

        1. Dillinger   7 years ago

          >>>constitutional expertise of the broad Senate constitutional experts..."

          this line is hall of fame.

          1. Leo Kovalensky II   7 years ago

            "Congress in its wisdom..."

            That's pretty epic too.

            1. Tom Bombadil   7 years ago

              Obama was a "constitutional scholar", so there you go.

          2. Tom Bombadil   7 years ago

            Hey, look how much money we can save by deleting the judicial branch.

  13. Longtorso, Johnny   7 years ago

    Shock Report: 86% Of Government Spending Is Now On Autopilot

    1. $park? The Misanthrope   7 years ago

      Super shocking to the 95% of Americans that use automatic bill pay.

    2. Leo Kovalensky II   7 years ago

      With all that investment, we better be making some damn good autonomous cars and planes.

  14. Fist of Etiquette   7 years ago

    One woman shows us the 9MM she is turning in for the Baltimore City Gun Buy Back program. But she says she is using the cash to get a bigger weapon! Story on FOX45 at 4pm. pic.twitter.com/LlmCbezpU7
    ? Kathleen Cairns (@CairnsKcairns) December 17, 2018

    Next up: The Free Will Buy Back Project

  15. Weigel's Cock Ring   7 years ago

    You seriously need to get yourself off of Twitter, your poor miserable addict. You apparently have absolutely no idea how much it's fucking you up.

    1. Crusty Juggler   7 years ago

      your poor miserable addict. You apparently have absolutely no idea how much it's fucking you up.

      lol

  16. lap83   7 years ago

    "One woman shows us the 9MM she is turning in for the Baltimore City Gun Buy Back program. But she says she is using the cash to get a bigger weapon! "

    Women in Baltimore should derive their home security from anti-self defense policies instituted by people who have bodyguards

    1. Antilles   7 years ago

      Like Alyssa Milano, who attended an anti-gun rally with armed bodyguards.

      1. lap83   7 years ago

        She deserves to feel safer than the people she imagines would try to attack her

  17. speedylee   7 years ago

    SpaceX to launch U.S. satellite in first national security mission

  18. Longtorso, Johnny   7 years ago

    OPINION: CHINA'S IMMINENT TAKEOVER OF HIGH-SPEED CELLULAR COMMUNICATION
    Even where U.S. and European firms may own the core technology, China has been driving new standards to suit its long-term dominance of the communications world. Other players in this industry market understand all of this as well as their mission to maximize shareholder value, but because they are so closely tied to the Chinese government by way of multiple joint ventures and coerced technology transfers that were demanded in return for allowing them to participate in the low-cost Chinese labor manufacturing market, they are vulnerable now to Chinese pressure on myriad issues related to the 5G industry ? like EMS allocations.

  19. Fist of Etiquette   7 years ago

    In a statement, Warren insisted that she didn't want a government takeover of drug markets, just "to fix them."

    Big Chief Medicine Woman cause peace pipe cost much wampum.

  20. Mickey Rat   7 years ago

    Warren wants to make the government a producer of medications, but do not call a Democrat a socialist.

    I imagine Warren will keep costs low by claiming sovereign immunity from faulty product liability lawsuits.

    1. Tom Bombadil   7 years ago

      Her secret economic plan: CASINOS!

    2. Antilles   7 years ago

      We're supposed to trust drugs and medications produced by people who can never be arrested or even fired no matter how badly they screw up? No, thanks.

      1. Cy   7 years ago

        We already do it with Law Enforcement, see how well that went?

  21. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   7 years ago

    Important #TrumpRussia update!

    Russian disinformation teams targeted Robert S. Mueller III, says report prepared for Senate

    The walls are closing in on Drumpf. This is the beginning of the end. The hostile foreign forces who installed this Kremlin puppet government are getting nervous. And in their desperation they're trying to take down the American hero who's going to save us from this nightmare. It won't work though.

    #ItsMuellerTime

    1. Old Mexican - Mostly Harmless   7 years ago

      Yes, but now that we know what they're up to, the jig is up. Right?

      1. TuIpa (Shevo thinks I'm HIHN!)   7 years ago

        "the jig"

        Fuck off racist.

  22. damikesc   7 years ago

    In a statement, Warren insisted that she didn't want a government takeover of drug markets, just "to fix them." Her bill would create a new Office of Drug Manufacturing and order it to produce at least 15 different types of generic medications (drugs for which the patent has run out) in its first year.

    I'm betting the government companies would have WAY less liability to suits than private drug companies would.

  23. perlchpr   7 years ago

    "Senator Warren has stupid idea, news at... wait, that's not news."

    If she really wants to help "fix" the issues in this country with medications, she could try introducing legislation that would make it less complicated for someone to introduce, say, a competitor to the Epi-Pen. Or to get approval to manufacture these patent-expired generics.

    1. CDRSchafer   7 years ago

      Senator Warren taking a huge dose of heroin would fix a lot of issues.

      1. perlchpr   7 years ago

        I'd recommend a full gram of carfentanyl, just to be safe.

  24. Sevo   7 years ago

    The hag really didn't lose, version 6,723:

    "Russian Meddling Targets African American Voters In US Elections"
    [...]
    "We now know more about Russia's political meddling than ever before, thanks to two Senate-commissioned reports. And one of the biggest targets was African American voters.
    The Internet Research Agency, or IRA, led the disinformation campaign, and it used just about every social media platform it could access. But the two reports focus mostly on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and Instagram.
    Many of the ads and posts targeting African-Americans tried to divert them away from political involvement. Posts would urge them to boycott the election or vote for a third party candidate, presumably hoping to draw votes away from Hillary Clinton."
    https://news--site.com/2018/12/18/
    russian-meddling-targets-african-
    american-voters-in-us-elections/

    Tired. So tired.

    1. Sevo   7 years ago

      BTW, the Chron, bless its lefty stupidity, ran the same lead under a second headline in the business section, just so you wouldn't miss the innuendo.

      1. TuIpa (Shevo thinks I'm HIHN!)   7 years ago

        I prove Sevo wrong, he reacts the way you'd expect, by shitting his pants and acting stupid

        1. perlchpr   7 years ago

          The multi-day repetitive shitposting isn't doing anything to help your case that you are not part of the hihnswarm.

    2. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   7 years ago

      More proof that Russia hacked the election. Although the immediate bodycount was lower, this attack on the very foundation of our democracy was no less serious than Pearl Harbor or 9 / 11.

      #StillWithHer
      #LibertariansForGettingToughWithRussia

    3. Mickey Rat   7 years ago

      Lack of Black turnout in 2016 did not have anything to do with the Dems running a cranky old white biddy, as the successor to the youngish, (supposedly) cool, black guy. No, Blacks must have had their minds beguiled by malevolent forces outside of the Democrat's control.

    4. Longtobefree   7 years ago

      Wait. I thought it was all about Mueller - - - - -

      1. Sevo   7 years ago

        "Wait. I thought it was all about Mueller - - - - -"

        Sorta like the 'hooker-payoff-illegal-contributions' flag; they ran it up the pole and people laughed. And laughed.
        So now, they're searching around for any new straws to grasp.

        1. TuIpa (Shevo thinks I'm HIHN!)   7 years ago

          I prove Sevo wrong, he reacts the way you'd expect, by shitting his pants and acting stupid

    5. NealAppeal   7 years ago

      So did the ad just have black Jesus vs. Satan?

  25. Old Mexican - Mostly Harmless   7 years ago

    My fellow Republicans used to oppose bailouts. Now, they euphemistically call them "market facilitation payments."

    Nothing spells MAGA better than economic command-and-control and euphemisms. Thank you, DJT!

    Warren insisted that she didn't want a government takeover of drug markets, just "to fix them."

    Which means "taking them over". Speaking of euphemisms - sheesh.

    But [Sen. Tom] Cotton is now offering a slew of amendments [to the Criminal Sentencing Reform bill] that could doom the bill.

    This is the same Cotton that wants to reduce LEGAL immigration to US to a ridiculous trickle to protect "our precious bodily culture" and put drug users in jail for 'permanent treatment' (meaning: let them rot in there).

  26. Ken Shultz   7 years ago

    "Sen. Warren Has a Plan to Socialize Pharmaceuticals: Reason Roundup"

    I don't think we can really gauge how good or bad something is until we look at it in the context of likely alternatives. Trump may seem pretty awful compared to the libertarian alternative in our imagination, but when you consider him against the outright socialism of a Liz Warren, he looks like a shining white knight of capitalism.

    As we consider the odds of Trump being reelected, too, we should try to remember that as the Democrats compete with each other to win primaries in important blue states like New York and California, they'll need to move ever further to the left to stand out against their challengers.

    Trump won't be running against Liz Warren the relative centrist. He'll be running against the Liz Warren (or one of her competitors) that stands out from the rest of the primary field as being more #MeToo, more environmentalist, more pro-illegal immigration, and more socialist than all of her competitors. That primary winner will be that far to the left, and then she'll need to turn around and convince the white, blue-collar, swing state voters of the rust belt to vote for her instead of Trump?

    Don't bet on it.

    1. Longtorso, Johnny   7 years ago

      Reason will support any hard left Dem in 2020 out of class snobbery and a desire to work at The Atlantic.

      1. Zeb   7 years ago

        This seems worthy of some kind of wager.

        1. Longtorso, Johnny   7 years ago

          Wagers here are unenforceable. See Weigel or Tony refusing to pay off whatever his bet was awhile back.

          1. $park? The Misanthrope   7 years ago

            At least you're willing to admit up front that you'd never pay up.

            1. TuIpa (Shevo thinks I'm HIHN!)   7 years ago

              Now Longtorso is triggering you too? He even got you so upset that you misread what he said.

              Calm down bro you can't go through life being triggered by everything like you do now.

            2. Longtorso, Johnny   7 years ago

              Could I prove it if I did?

              1. Zeb   7 years ago

                Doesn't have to be money. Could be some act of contrition you must perform publicly in the comments.

          2. Chuckles the Snarky Piggy   7 years ago

            There is also the fact that trying to collect on an internet wager, a contract between anonymous persons, is just silly.

            Before someone says something stupid about bitcoin being anonymous, Bitcoin has a perfected chain of custody, unlike a username.

    2. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   7 years ago

      As we consider the odds of Trump being reelected

      Those odds are currently 0 %.

      He got lucky once because of Russian hacking and the Comey letter. But now that the vast majority of voters can see what a disaster he's been, and given the abysmal state of the economy, there's no way he wins in 2020. He probably won't even run in 2020 since Mueller will more likely than not remove him from office in 2019.

      1. Ken Shultz   7 years ago

        Is it all about how awful Trump is? Don't you have anything nice to say about Warren--or does the desirability of the Democratic nominee not even matter anymore?

        1. Dillinger   7 years ago

          >>>nice to say about Warren

          makes great moccasins?

          1. Chuckles the Snarky Piggy   7 years ago

            Warren-skin moccasiins - As comfy as treading on the backs of 100 million taxpayers.

  27. Sevo   7 years ago

    Somebody who was employed by Trump at sometime or other knows someone who did something wrong, therefore TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Version 4,936,7846,569,604,128 (or so):

    "Flynn's ex-business associates charged with illegal lobbying"
    [...]
    "Two business associates of Michael Flynn, President Donald Trump's former national security adviser, were charged Monday with illegally lobbying for Turkey as part of a campaign to pressure the United States to expel a Turkish cleric."
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/
    wireStory/flynn-associate-arrested-
    illegal-lobbying-charges-59863489

    Paging Tony, turd, the rev asshole, about half of Reason's staff, Hihn in any of his socks...
    'We got him THIS time!!!!!!'

    1. perlchpr   7 years ago

      They really don't require paging. Sadly, they'll be here.

      At least most of them aren't as prolific as the hihnswarm. Goddamn. Now that is a botcloud that knows how to shit up a thread.

    2. TuIpa (Shevo thinks I'm HIHN!)   7 years ago

      I prove Sevo wrong, he reacts the way you'd expect, by shitting his pants and acting stupid

      1. Sevo   7 years ago

        Fuck off, Hihn.

        1. TuIpa (Shevo thinks I'm HIHN!)   7 years ago

          I prove Sevo wrong, he reacts the way you'd expect, by shitting his pants and acting stupid

          1. Azathoth!!   7 years ago

            These endless retarded links back kinda say you're Hihn.

            None of the REAL Tulpas would be so stupid.

        2. perlchpr   7 years ago

          I think it's stuck in a loop.

  28. Quo Usque Tandem   7 years ago

    "Warren insisted that she didn't want a government takeover of drug markets,[ just 'to fix them.']"

    No, but she has to start somewhere.

  29. Sevo   7 years ago

    I hope he got that popular from people laughing at his stupidity:

    "Meet Coyote Peterson, YouTube's King Of Stings. Is He Animal Planet's Next Big Dog?"
    [...]
    "Coyote Peterson made himself into one of YouTube's biggest stars by subjecting himself to the most painful stings in the world. Now he's making the move to cable TV, and he wants to quit getting bitten."
    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/
    article/josephbernstein/coyote-peterson

    1. TuIpa (Shevo thinks I'm HIHN!)   7 years ago

      I prove Sevo wrong, he reacts the way you'd expect, by shitting his pants and acting stupid

      1. Sevo   7 years ago

        Fuck off, Hihn.

        1. TuIpa (Shevo thinks I'm HIHN!)   7 years ago

          I prove Sevo wrong, he reacts the way you'd expect, by shitting his pants and acting stupid

          1. Zeb   7 years ago

            It's really funny that you think that's what happened.

            But please, continue beclowning yourself in every thread today.

            1. $park? The Misanthrope   7 years ago

              That's its purpose so I don't think you're going to shame it.

  30. Lowdog   7 years ago

    So is warren a fascist or a social democrat? Lol. I can't tell the difference.

    1. Longtobefree   7 years ago

      Communist.
      Fascist would just mandate that the private companies make the product to govt specifications.
      Socialist would just mandate that the private companies make the product to govt specifications.

  31. Crusty Juggler   7 years ago

    ? New York's ban on nunchucks has been declared unconstitutional.

    Fuck yeah!

  32. Crusty Juggler   7 years ago

    Newly released text messages show how married sixth-grade teacher, 27, lured her 13-year-old student into midnight sexual romps

    Documents show Zamora sent the boy messages which read: 'OMG, I love you,' and 'Omg lol you're so cute baby.'

    Another read: 'I wish you could've stayed after with me.'

    The student then replied: 'Me too. I wish I could just hang out with you whenever we wanted.'

    OMG indeed.

    1. Lowdog   7 years ago

      Wood, would.

      1. Leo Kovalensky II   7 years ago

        "Zamora is also said to have sent the boy nude pictures of herself"

        It's impossible for her to receive a fair trial unless they make those pictures public. You know... for the children or something.

      2. Dillinger   7 years ago

        kid's dad secretly proud.

      3. Juice   7 years ago

        That's a big mouth.

        1. Tom Bombadil   7 years ago

          The phrase is, "dick-sucking lips".

          1. Dillinger   7 years ago

            DSL before the internets took the term

  33. Ken Shultz   7 years ago

    Do you think the reason Daniel Ortega and Nicaragua don't much coverage in the U.S. is that Reagan era news people can hardly make themselves notice anything that might make it seem like Reagan wasn't senile, evil, or wrong?

    It was okay to go after Hugo Chavez during the Obama administration, I guess because Chavez committed the unpardonable sin of criticizing Obama. Most of that critical coverage seems to have gone out the window. First, millions of refugees fleeing Venezuela was largely ignored by the press, and now we're looking at Russia landing long-range bombers in Venezuela.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-.....a-46522358

    Having the Russians use central American dictatorships as a staging area to threaten American security is unacceptable no matter how much you hate Ronald Reagan. At the very least, we should be pressing matters in places like Ukraine in response.

    Oh, and Trump is probably being both foolish and obstinate on our nuclear agreements with Russia. So long as the Russians are abiding by them, he should let sleeping dogs lie.

    1. Longtobefree   7 years ago

      You seriously see Russian bombers in Venezuela as a threat to US security?

      Oh, wait; Ken

      1. Ken Shultz   7 years ago

        Are you kidding?

      2. Dillinger   7 years ago

        >>>as a threat to US security?

        their list of western hemisphere enemies longer now?

    2. $park? The Misanthrope   7 years ago

      Do you thank the folks at Reason every day for hosting your blog on their website for free?

      1. TuIpa (Shevo thinks I'm HIHN!)   7 years ago

        Do you thank them for giving you a place to bitch about people?

        1. $park? The Misanthrope   7 years ago

          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VyugfHPOFBE

          1. TuIpa (Shevo thinks I'm HIHN!)   7 years ago

            Why do you keep posting a video that implores me not to feed you?

            And why does Ken trigger you so much?

      2. Ken Shultz   7 years ago

        You think they'd rather pay me for the content?!

        Yeah, the whole purpose of a comment section is to get people to write content for your website free of charge.

        I'm flattered that you spend so much time reading my content every day.

        If you ever write something interesting, I'll be sure to return the compliment.

        1. TuIpa (Shevo thinks I'm HIHN!)   7 years ago

          I still don't understand why you trigger him so much. I asked, but he posted a link to a video that said I shouldn't feed him so... Yeah still no idea.

          1. Ken Shultz   7 years ago

            Some people seem to think the whole thing is about feeble attempts at humor. They see other people making intelligent arguments about something, and it makes them feel inferior. It's like what mean girls do to a new girl who transfers into a new school. They hate her because she's beautiful, and it makes them feel like toads.

            1. perlchpr   7 years ago

              I wonder what the actual comment count would be without all the dups. From the squirrels or other 'bots.

      3. Weigel's Cock Ring   7 years ago

        It's a little remarkable how you and Citizen Crustard have returned after a long absence at exactly the same time.

        It certainly COULD be just a remarkable coincidence, but I seriously doubt it.

        1. $park? The Misanthrope   7 years ago

          It's not a coincidence, you're 10000% on the money as usual.

          1. Weigel's Cock Ring   7 years ago

            I'm not going to lie, I was kind of hoping that you died in a fiery car accident or something. Oh well, nobody gets everything he wants in life.

            Please commence posting under three or four different handles at the same time though. You obviously can't help yourself.

            1. TuIpa (Shevo thinks I'm HIHN!)   7 years ago

              Hey at least you got him to stop lying about using sockpuppets. I never thought he'd admit it even though we all knew it.

              1. Sevo   7 years ago

                Fuck off, Hihn.

                1. TuIpa (Shevo thinks I'm HIHN!)   7 years ago

                  I prove Sevo wrong, he reacts the way you'd expect, by shitting his pants and acting stupid

  34. Leo Kovalensky II   7 years ago

    Donald Trump in 2013:

    At some point, Trump warned, the economy will have to pay the price for continued "quantitative easing" ? essentially a form of "printing money" by a computer command.

    "Is it going to be now? Is it going to be in five years, or 10 years? Is it going to be our children?" Trump asked.

    Trump today:

    I hope the people over at the Fed will read today's Wall Street Journal Editorial before they make yet another mistake. Also, don't let the market become any more illiquid than it already is. Stop with the 50 B's. Feel the market, don't just go by meaningless numbers. Good luck!

    We'll still have to pay the price at some point, I guess he just doesn't want it to be during "his" economy. Sounds like he's happy letting your children pay for it? Keep pumping up that economy Jerome!

    1. Zeb   7 years ago

      He's just like a normal politician, except he says everything he thinks.

  35. Dillinger   7 years ago

    made our own chucks in like 7th grade how can they be banned?

    1. Zeb   7 years ago

      Same way they ban drugs, guns, fireworks and everything else: ineffectively.

  36. Juice   7 years ago

    Warren insisted that she didn't want a government takeover of drug markets

    Just 1/1024th of them.

  37. Juice   7 years ago

    It sucks that you have to be a Baltimore City resident for the gun buyback. I have an old POS .25 auto that I'm dying to get rid of. It would be awesome to get $200 for it. Of course I'd put it toward something much better.

  38. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   7 years ago

    What's Warren laughing at, the results of her DNA test?

  39. Jerry B.   7 years ago

    "Warren's so-called Affordable Drug Manufacturing Act "is unlikely to pass the Republican-led Senate," write Politico's Alex Thompson and Sarah Karlin-Smith. ""

    Which is exactly the plan. Then Sen. Warren can point at the Republicans and say, "They're preventing you from getting life-saving drugs at a price you can afford!", although her plan would not save anyone any money on drugs, and would cost the government billions to implement.

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