Jeff Flake Inspires Fresh New Hatred by Blocking Judicial Confirmations
Senate Republicans are torn between their hatred of voting on bills, their fear of poking the bear, and their love of confirming judges.

If you thought everybody hated Jeff Flake before, check out what they're saying now that the lame-duck Arizona senator is blocking judicial confirmations until he gets a floor vote on the bipartisan "Special Counsel Independence and Integrity Act," which passed the Senate Judiciary Committee (upon which Flake sits) 14–7 in April but has been stymied since by Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.
"Jeff Flake's Sad Exit," runs the headline on The Wall Street Journal's editorial. The paper's argument: "Flake's stunt will have zero effect on President Trump or Mr. Mueller, and he's compromising a substantive principle to make a futile political gesture. Mr. Flake is hurting the cause of confirming conservative judges who would enforce the Constitution in the name of a bill that is unconstitutional."
Is the Mueller-protection act truly unconstitutional? The best answer to that may be that it would be "vulnerable to constitutional challenge" on separation-of-powers grounds, because by giving special counsels—which currently are allowed to exist not by statute but through internal Justice Department regulations—the ability to appeal their firings to the U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., the bill would transfer some executive branch authority from the president to this awkwardly powerful post. The relevant Supreme Court precedent, 1988's Morrison v. Olson, is one of the more infamous rulings of the past few decades, known now mostly for Antonin Scalia's fiery and solitary dissent, which would likely be the argument the current SCOTUS finds most persuasive.
Is that constitutional vulnerability sufficient cause to block a floor vote? Sen. Mike Lee (R–Utah), one of the more constitutionally grounded members of the body, says so vehemently. But Commentary's Noah Rothman, in a piece for NBC News, makes a persuasive case that it's all more complicated than that. "The naïve might insist that this is an entirely good faith intra-party debate over the constitutionality of the bill," Rothman writes. However: "The unsatisfying fact is that a careless strike at Trump by Congress would only make the crisis it is trying to prevent more likely."
Fact is, the legislative branch under GOP rule specializes in three things: not voting on bills, not conducting meaningful oversight of the executive branch, and confirming as many judges as they can while the going's still good. As lame-duck Sen. Bob Corker (R–Tenn.) memorably pointed out in June, his Republican colleagues are terrified of poking the bear, meaning the erratic, anger-prone fellow in the White House. And as has been pointed out repeatedly by the most libertarian members of each chamber—Justin Amash (R–Mich.) in the House, Rand Paul (R–Ky.) in the Senate—the other governing fear is of attaching names to actual votes.
"People in Congress are protected from voting the wrong way," Amash told me a couple years back. "Everything's take-it-or-leave-it, all or nothing. It makes it harder to distinguish among the members of Congress—who's a good congressman and who's a bad congressman—because it's all just a jumble."
This insight may get closer to the true objections to Flake's bill. The Journal is correct to point out that the legislation is a non-starter, because even if it was voted on and passed, lame duck House Speaker Paul Ryan (R–Wisc.) would not take it up; the constitutional question would be moot. But the names of those Republicans who dared poke the bear would be written in neon lights at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. And should Trump's situation continue to deteriorate, or if he ends up firing Robert Mueller, an on-the-record vote against protecting the special counsel may prove politically hazardous.
Flake's gambit not only asks his Republican colleagues to do something they hate but also prevents them from doing something they love—confirm judges. I attended a D.C. fundraiser for Flake in 2017 a week before he announced that he wouldn't seek re-election, and the special guest star may surprise you: none other than Mitch McConnell. "We're in the personnel business," the majority leader said at the outset of his remarks. "There's over 1,200 presidential appointments that have to be confirmed in the Senate. And the most important ones, obviously, are the…courts….One of the most important things that President Trump will be able to do to change America is putting young, Gorsuch-like people in the courts. And right in the middle of the confirmation process is Jeff Flake and his colleagues on the Judiciary Committee. He's been a solid supporter." That was the entirety of McConnell's testimonial.
This is why Republicans are pissed. "Not productive," says Sen. Ted Cruz (R–Texas). "Flake is a selfish narcissist," snorts Mike Huckabee. Meanwhile, his vote-switch this week from "no" to "present" on controversial Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals nominee Jonathan Kobes is producing headlines in the lefty press like "Jeff Flake caves again."
No wonder the guy is downplaying the likelihood of any presidential bid ("I don't think that will be me," he said Sunday). Everybody hates Jeff Flake.
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Welch coming out, full bore, to demand protections for those poor, benighted prosecutors.
LIBERTARIAN MOMENT!!!
"Unaccountable Deep State Power NOW!"
Libertarian Moment!
No kidding!
Regardless, Trump is voted out in 2 - 6 more years! That really isn't that long considering what Obama shoved on us and we are still kicking.
With midterm elections, if the population dislikes his policies so much, reps and senators can be voted in and out to check him.
But to give such unchecked power on an unelected official is rotten to the core. If the will of a select few who appoint the prosecutor hate the people's choice, they can subvert it with absolutely no recourse.
Flake is an idiot.
Perhaps. Trump has shown no inclination to fire Mueller, and instead wants him to finish.
IMHO, Obama's administration (Brennan and Clapper) spied on Flake, found some dirt on him, and are blackmailing him. After all, he's about the most fiscally conservative senators. Flake's call for "decorum" is hypocritical because he hasn't held Democrats to that standard, and blackmail is the only thing that brings sense to his actions. His promise to resign so that dirt isn't revealed seems the ethical thing to do. I think it also explains Gowdy's resignation.
After all, we know Obama's administration intercepted and spied up senators' emails, at least towards catching those blowing the corruption whistle on Obama's administration.
That is a good point I had not thought of. Flake has been a disappointment. I, foolishly, had high hopes for him.
It seems like a desperate attempt to remain relevant and in the news and get on a few more Sunday "news" shows
Because it is "hatred" to criticize a Senator prioritizing an aggressively stupid bill over doing something substantive as a petty shot at a president he does not like.
One shudders to think of what right-wingers are saying privately about Sen. Tim Scott, who refuses to support a racist nominee for being a bigot.
Did Tim Scott not understand what he was signing up for as a Republican?
Could you provide links to *credible* sources on this?
Here's a link with the credulous right-wing badge of approval.
I guess if you cry "wolf" often enough you'll find a real one. Keep trying, you're bound to get lucky again.
I wish someone would explain how, exactly, showing an ID to vote is somehow suppressing the vote of minorities
Flake counterpunches.
Republicans whine.
Good times.
His personal feud with Trump does not matter. Wasting what time he has left in the Senate on it does not heap any glory or credit on Flake.
He's trying to score points with NeverTrumpers and the Left, the only places he has any welcome any longer.
By 2024 he's openly a Dem. Will probably be the Egg McMuffin of the Never Trumper clingers in 2020.
Pence will break any tie.
Its the media that is making a big deal of this.
Lefties still crying.
Thomas Farr isn't crying. He is too shocked to cry. Republicans pulling the plug on a nomination of a southern bigot? He has reason t be shocked.
The mississippi senator neat your Lefty candidate.
All your Lefty propaganda didnt work.
The senate is 53 to 47.
winning
"Flake counterpunches."
Cucks gonna Cuck
Rev posts
Nobody cares
Good times
"We tolerated this fat orange lunatic so we could get horrible fuckfaces on the bench, and anyone standing in the way of that pointless, despicable project is a meanie head!"
Your whining is pleasing, loser.
I wish I could say the same for your BJ technique.
How does it compare to the young boys you rape, Tony?
Whoa whoa whoa, define "young".
Single digits?
Tony is at a minimum, a chickenhawk. He preys on young teens, and sometimes younger.........
Tony|11.30.18 @ 12:24PM|#
"I wish I could say the same for your BJ technique."
Yeah, since you have no idea what you're lying about, you can't.
In which Sevo claims to give good head.
"so we could get horrible fuckfaces on the bench"
So far Gorsuch looks great from a libertarian perspective. Kavanaugh? Meh. We'll see I guess.
You're right, Trump is a fat orange idiot. But silver linings and all......
Go away already Jeff.
Considering what a whiny little bastard Jeef flake is, it makes me wonder if Chemjeff IS a Jeff Flake
They're both lefty idiots who display the same kind of soft headed thinking. Both huge crybabies too.
Yep, Chemjeff is Jeff flake.
Damn.
That actually makes sense
Love the argument that you can probably be right on the constitutional merits of your position but have it dismissed because it benefits your side.
My problem with Flake's position is that his stance is a threat - you support/take-up my bill and I will support/consider yours.
Not exactly what I would call taking a constitutional stance - particularity when the bills involved are not directly involved with one another.
dying on McCain Hill stupid.
"Perhaps Mr. Flake, who didn't run for re-election, is making a political statement in advance of the primary run he says he may make against Mr. Trump in 2020 in New Hampshire."
---WSJ
Flake bet the farm on challenging Trump for the nomination in 2020, and this is presumably a symptom of that. Drawing attention to himself is part of that and so is supporting a bill that might come into play.
Remember, the question isn't whether the Court will rule against the bill; the question is whether the court of public opinion will rule against Trump in favor of Flake. That's the world where Flake lives.
Why do people keep forcing me to side w Trump more than I want to? I like him, think he's still on track to be the best POTUS of my lifetime, but there's still so much I have vs. him that I wish I didn't have to keep jumping in on his side vs. others I might otherwise like. Then again, I haven't liked so much lately the movement-anointed libertarians of Congress, including Flake, so having to side vs. him isn't painful now.
Flake's as delusional as McCain was if he thinks "independents" will turn out for him in droves in a presidential race. Just because Trump is unpopular doesn't mean he'd have a path to the nomination, and if he tried to pull an Evan McMullin, he'd end up being more hated than Trump for fucking with the process.
Egg McMuffin II
Flake didn't run for re-election because he was losing to a generic Republican in the predicted primary. Hell, in a massively Republican state, he was losing to a Generic Democrat in the Republican polling. IIRC, his approval rating was around 10%.
There's no way he could beat Trump - or anyone else.
Ouchies.
Bitmain is even getting their asses handed to them.
A billion in unsold inventory two months ago, and who's going to buy it now?
http://techcrunch.com/2018/09/.....-concerns/
They had a bulletproof business plan if they'd just had some discipline on the manufacturing side.
It's like what happened to Qwest Communications. I thought those guys were geniuses by charging their competitors to build their own infrastructure. There's no substitute for discipline.
I guess once Bitmain decided they'd hit it big with an IPO, all the discipline went out the window.
I guess once Bitmain decided they'd hit it big with an IPO, all the discipline went out the window.
A pretty good summation of the American tech economy since 1998.
In my fantasy constitution, any legislator can create any bill, and after 30 days of review (which restarts if the bill changes), if a majority of legislators in each chamber has approved the bill, it becomes law. Of course, parties would still exist, and they would almost certainly have all sorts of party-only committees who would cast out members who violate party orders on what bills to author or (not) approve, but there'd be none of this official crap which hogties legislation.
To followup on Heinlein's The Moon is a Harsh Mistress dictum that it should be easier to repeal laws than create them, if at any time any law collects repeal signatures from more than 1/2 of the legislators in any chamber, that law is immediately voided.
Look: I used to love Flake. I thought he was a libertarian-leaning alternative to McCain. But now, it's become obvious that if he's not a neoconservative, he's awfully comfortable with them. The Mueller investigation is a farce which smacks of twenty-first century McCarthyism.
The Mueller witch hunt is nothing like McCarthyism. McCarthy went after many individuals he thought were communists. Mueller's so-called "investigation" has only a single person in mind: Trump. The goal is to hunt under every rock in Trump's past and intimidate everyone associated with Trump into either confessing or fabricating "evidence" that can be used by the Democrats in impeachment proceedings once they take the House. Removing a duly elected President by any means necessary has been the singular focus of Mueller and his entourage of Democrat lawyers from day 1. We are truly living in a banana republic.
It's a coup.
"confessing or fabricating"... isn't there quite a significant difference between those two things?
Do you think we are living in a banana republic because Trump just appointed a *checks notes* manifestly unqualified scammer with a history of fraud and perjury to run interference at the top of the DOJ, in order to protect even the intimation that Trump's election squeak-tory wasn't fully legitimate, despite the fact that he remains the president, no matter what Mueller says about it?
Or are you living in some kind of parallel universe?
Well, you certainly managed to shove a lot of Media Matters talking points into that paragraph. Was there a contest?
In your estimation, it's a "witch hunt" with a dozen witches and nearly 200 examples of witchcraft?
Carry on, clingers. If you can carry on without Devin Nunes running partisan interference, that is.
"In your estimation, it's a "witch hunt" with a dozen witches and nearly 200 examples of witchcraft?"
Yep, parking tickets, jay walking and doing something bad years before knowing Trump.
With assholes like you offering such bullshit, it's easy to laugh at you.
Flake fights for the Deep State Globalists. He's on the Left now.
I mean, except for that whole, voting to confirm a lying drunk to the SCOTUS, and everything else. Toooootally "Left."
Yeah, demonize a guy formlrtying back in school. You're probably one of the kids who never partied, never got laid, and is still a weak little beta make pussy even now.
Which explains your politics.
Flake is transitioning.
This is why it's best to just fire someone on a Friday instead of making them finish out the week.
The senator is aptly named.
Nominative determinism in action.
Well, if Flake does run, it will almost certainly ensure no second term for Trump-I don't think any incumbent POTUS has ever survived a primary challenge to then go on and be re-elected. This will result in a Dem POTUS, House, and very likely Senate too, which will pass all kinds of progtard bills and help bring on that long-awaited LIBERTARIAN MOMENT!
Perhaps this is Flake's strategy
"I don't think any incumbent POTUS has ever survived a primary challenge to then go on and be re-elected."
That's probably because a POTUS will never get a primary challenge unless he's so weak that even a substantial portion of his own partly doesn't believe he should be re-elected.
Trump shouldn't run for re-election. He won't win in 2020.
GHW Bush-challenged by Pat Buchanan in '92-defeated in general
Jimmy Carter-challenged by Ted Kennedy in '80-defeated in general
Gerald Ford-challenged by Ronald Reagan in '76-defeated in general
Those are the most recent examples-of these, only Carter really came across as weak-I don't remember Ford very well since I was a very little kid when he was POTUS.
I have no doubt that Trump will run for re-election, and at this point could very well win a second term. The thing to watch is if Flake runs, a lot of dems will vote for him in the primary to weaken Trump and I actually know several who have told me as much.
Ford is a special case as he did not hold the presidency by virtue of being elected president or vice president (Ford had been appointed Vice President to serve out Agnew's term after he resigned).
Ford's public image was not so much that he was weak - more that he was clumsy and dumb.
But primary challenge or not, Ford was covered in Nixon taint. Not helped by the fact that pretty much the first thing he did when he ascended to the Presidency was pardon Nixon. No way he was ever going to be elected.
Ford came extremely close to winning that election. Carter was just that bad.
Clumsy based on SNL, America's go to source for fake news since 1975. Ford was a star athlete, unlike Chevy Chase.
HW Bush seemed week from my very young perspective but that might have been because Dana Carvey's impression of him was just too damn funny.
But Trump is an anomaly, is he not? That which is traditional in politics does not seem to apply to him.
"GHW Bush-challenged by Pat Buchanan in '92-defeated in general"
HW lost because Ross Oreto ran and peeled off republican voters at over twice the number of democrat voters. Without him in the race, Clinton would have lost big.
Dems voting for Flake if he runs in a GOP primary? The Dem dance card will be full, so if they don't pay attention they may end up with a candidate worse than the one they had in 2016. And yes, with the current batch of moonbats on that side, that is possible
Clinton was challenged by larouche in 96.
Obama had 8 challengers in 2012 for the New Hampshire primary.
Staten ran against Reagan in 84.
If you mean candidates with even a shot at capturing the nomination, that's not flake.
Egg McMuffin II
Dammit, now I'm getting hungry. Though not in en electoral sense.
Trump will win by more electoral votes than 2016.
Its gonna send Lefties into violent tailspin.
I don't think any incumbent POTUS has ever survived a primary challenge to then go on and be re-elected.
This feels incorrect but I'm too lazy to deep-research this, so I'll give you a pass on this.
sounded like OBL attempt i even chuckled ... but then precedent was cited ^^^
Even Obama has challengers in 2012. Just none with a shot. Flake has no shot.
McCain primaried Bush.
Nixon beat off Ashbrook, got re-elected, didn't finish that term, though, if that's what you mean.
He must be doing something right
Do Republicans give Tim Scott a pass (to which Sen. Flake would apparently not be entitled) on declining to support one of the racist nominees because a black conservative possesses special superpowers in this context (racist nominees)?
Carry on, clingers.
"Carry on, clingers."
Congratulations on once again openly displaying your bigotry. Though you were smart enough to leave out the racist epitaph 'redneck' this time.
What's your position on the Farr nomination? Was he your kind of racist?
Arthur, did you see the recent study showing liberals dumb down speeches for minority audiences while Republicans don't? Your whole party is just a more hidden version of the kkk.
I gather current Republicans, who voluntarily and enthusiastically rely on southern racists to maintain an electoral coalition for backwardness and intolerance, are uniformly disdainful of blacks. In this context, consistency is not a virtue.
So you applaud the behavior of assuming minorities are dumb. Got it.
I gather current Republicans, who voluntarily and enthusiastically rely on southern racists to maintain an electoral coalition for backwardness and intolerance, are uniformly disdainful of blacks.
Leave your hicklib family out of this.
Arty, you and your commie friends are the bigots. Now have the good grace to admit to it and then commit suicide as an act of contrition.
"I gather current Republicans,..."
Fuck off, asshole.
Arty, if you're speaking of the Jamie Farr nomination, then the only thing TO be said is 'carry on Klinger!' (Salutes)
I like what you did there. Kudos
A disagreement on *one* judge is not quite the same as blocking *all* of them to protect the Coup.
Calling someone racist doesn't make it so.
On the other hand, opposing someone for the Federal bench because the nominee has skin that is too light is racist.
Can't Mitch simply remove Flake from the committee?
You'd think so.
With the margin so small, it's a tough dance. McConnell may not want to lose Flake's vote on other issues for the rest of the year.
What had Mueller actually done? Indicted a few Russkies who will never get a chance to challenge the charges in court, saving Mueller some work. And he had Manafort et al on Mickey Mouse non-Russian shit.
Trump should give him a deadline - issue a report on Jan 15, or you're fired.
And fuckall what anyone says.
Last I heard one of the charged Russians showed up and Mueller refused to present the evidence against him.
That wouldn't shock me. I'm starting to think this is like that King of the Hill episode where there is a hysterical snake scare in the show' fictional town of Arlen. The Animal Control department uses it as a tool to ramp up funding by several thousand percent. Then they are later found to have used the money to their office into a fun palace with arcade games, catered food, etc..
I could see Mueller dong this.
January can't get here fast enough.
You know who else looked forward to key political developments in January?
I see some people aren't familiar with Article XII of the Constitution wherein the independence of the DoJ - and other Executive branch agencies - is guaranteed in order to act as a check on the other 4 branches of government. It would be horrifying to think that hard-working civic-minded humble public servants might be beholden to the President for their positions or to Congress for their paychecks, making them vulnerable to coercion to do what the Congress demands in a manner the President dictates. Accountability to elected officials means nothing less than accountability to the electorate and who wants those dumb fucks sticking their noses into the government's business where it most certainly does not belong? An independent administrative regime is absolutely necessary if we are to have Top Men free to make the hard choices nobody wants even though those choices are for their own good and must be jammed down their throats and up their asses despite all their struggles and protests.
Save the Deep State from the tyranny of the Citizen!
Jeff Flake, the quintessential Lefty useful idiot.
Just resign Flake.
Only about three more weeks until fuckface disappears from public life permanently and Professional Fake Libertarian Welchie Boy is forced to find himself a new favorite fake republican.
Cucks gonna Cuck
At least he's not using his unique position to hold things up for something petty like no domestic drone strikes or reining in spending.
The problem here is the Republican leadership that never checked President Trump. They should support the President of their party within reason, but that did not happen. The result a drubbing in the mid-term election. The question of the President firing Robert Mueller should never have come up in the first place. Firing Mueller after firing Comey is as much as admitting guilt. The Republican leadership would look much better if they held firm and told the President they expect presidential behavior. Right now the Republicans in Congress have a much better hand than the President. They might remind him that impeachment is more beneficial to them than the Democrats. Mike Pence could take over, return dignity to the office and give the Republican a viable incumbent for 2020 election.
Well, that was some soft headed bullshit analysis. The opposite is true. They didn't get the wall done or much of anything else they campaigned on.
Trump got rolled by the GOP establishment.
To be fair, he needed them. Big chance enough would have joined with the Dems to impeach Trump in his first year.
Trump has since solidified his support with Republicans generally, and NeverTrumpers were largely winnowed out in the midterm. Net gain of one constitutionalist on the Supremes. Picked up seats in the Senate.
Trump is in a much better position to fight in the next session.
"The result a drubbing in the mid-term election."
Doesn't it make you dizzy to spin like that?
Insofar as there was any excuse for demanding that Mueller be protected by an unconstitutional law, it went away on November 6th. If Mueller is fired from the DoJ, the new Democratic House majority can hire him as an investigator on January 3rd as part of their oversight powers.
Throw in the fact that the law isn't going to be taken up by the lame-duck House in any event, and this gridlock Flake's inflicting is pure political grandstanding. He should be publicly shamed for it.
NeverTrumpers are proud of their moral preening. It's what they love for.
live for
Seems to me like the GOP folded up like a cheap suit during 2016! It's hard to imagine that they are do afraid of a silver spooned snake oil selling Democrat. I say fuck the bear!
Democrats should be beaten at will, and with impunity. Legislative republicans need to grow a pair.
"Flake's stunt will have zero effect on President Trump or Mr. Mueller, and he's compromising a substantive principle to make a futile political gesture. Mr. Flake is hurting the cause of confirming conservative judges who would enforce the Constitution in the name of a bill that is unconstitutional."
The simplest explanation is that Flake intends every outcome mentioned.
NeverTrumpers were the right wing of the Globalist Uniparty.
With US politics realigning to Globalist Deep State on the Left, Nationalist Self Government on the Right, Flake is now on the Left. He may or may not realize it yet. But his choices increasingly reflect it. Keeping constitutionalist judges off the court and protecting the Mueller Coup is a heads I win, tails you lose for the Globalist Deep State.
The thing is most of them are still never trumpers. I bet they're silently cheering on flake. The difference is the rest of then are still beholden to voters because they are not retiring.
I find it sad that this article is trying to make trump look like a meanie dictator when it is obviously his 90 percent approval rating among Republicans that actually have the Progressive Republicans scared of going against his policies.
"Fact is, the legislative branch under GOP rule specializes in three things: not voting on bills"
This is a complaint you'd read on Salon. Reason is bitching about Republicans not passing enough legislation. This shithole is officially indistinguishable from any other progressive website.
Libertarians should be happy people like Jeff Flake exist. With so many like him on each side of the isle, more people will be looking for an alternative.
So do all Arizona Senators get brain tumors?
This one appears to have one in o,ace of a brain.
#Resist!
#Resist!!
With a pint of Ben & Jerry's #Resist!!!
It's a hit at the G20 Summit!!!
Jerry Garcia of The Grateful Dead was absolutely opposed to voting for Republican or Democratic party candidates!
It's not all a jumble. There's looters, ushered in by the Nixon Anti-Libertarian Law providing taxpayer-financed subsidies for entrenched looter kleptocracy parties--and there's libertarians... whose spoiler votes STILL force the looters to repeal egregiously fascist and communist laws while refraining from raising taxes or putting their inbred cousins on the Federal payroll. This is a win-win situation. It's hard to stifle a laugh every time another country opts out of burning its taxpayers alive on the altar of Global Warming Pseudoscience. Econazi Germany and its Italian Ally Papa Pederastia are having carpet-biting fits listening to recordings of Trump telling the Da Jacket he "likes" Libertarianism.
Good old Flake the Snake.
Flake is a miscreant if he's going to sacrifice judicial confirmations, the only silver lining of this administration, for personal theatrics.
Flake the phony libertarian wants to push his unconstitutional defend Mueller legislation and then block one thing that Trump has mostly correct, his judicial nominees that are more grounded in defending the constitution.
Good riddance to the self serving phony and the end to any influence he has on public policy other than his one vote on election day.
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